Joe Torre: Alex Rodriguez was selfish
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- Joe Torre on how Alex Rodriguez cared most about his personal stats and how he still tried to be “the guy” amid a Yankees roster of fellow All Stars. Torre also praises A-Rod for his exceptional work ethic.
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graham does good interviews. the misleading title is unnecessary and makes you lose credibility
Its not misleading. He was selfish. Carrying more about his batting average or home runs or whatever individual statistics is very selfish. If you strike out trying to hit a home run because you have 39 and want 40 rather than move the runner over, thats called being selfish
Not misleading at all. No credibility lost.
Agreed, if you watch the whole interview none of it was really about him being selfish. But idiots will comment that didn't watch it in it's entirety. Plus this guy interviewing has that typical fake ass tv personality. Not to say Arod is a loved personality either lol!
Mainstream media does this constantly with information people actually base their lives on and A-Rod is easily one of the most unliked athletes of all time I don't think anyone is too thrown off lol
Totally Misleading. Torre never says "selfish" which is an incendiary word. He critiques how Rodriquez' style of play didn't quite fit with his baseball philosophy at the time. It is aggravating to click on something like this, that seems outrageous, only to get milquetoast, at best.
The title is so misleading. That's not what he said at all!
you're right.
No it was a correct title he said it when he said he cared about putting numbers up (padding stats) instead of helping them win
@@frankwilliams5802Can you really stat pad in baseball? I'm kinda curious.
Tyler Riley I mean if you wanted RBIs you only try to hit the ball when there are runners on base and when there isn’t you try your hardest to get out
@@frankwilliams5802 No, he never said he cared about numbers instead of winning. Torre specifically said that Alex felt like putting up numbers would *help* them win.
Enhh....Little click-baitish
Ehhhhh
Agreed
100%
Torre saying “he worked harder than anybody I’ve seen” doesn’t have the same ring to it as “selfish”
Yeah it's click bait.
Well, I went a long time without clicking this video because I didn’t believe Torre would say that the way I thought he did, and sure enough.....those words didn’t come out of his mouth.
I feel the same.
For the people who say the title isn't misleading: He never said the sentence "Alex Rodriguez was selfish." It's misleading because it is conjecture based on what Joe said, and has a far more negative connotation than anything in the conversation.
Channel nearing 100,000 subs and now we have click-bait.
Good point.
It’s a cheap ploy and it’s not fair , in this case, to either Joe Torre or Alex
Him saying his concern was himself and putting numbers up, guess what? Hold onto your seats, means that he said A-Rod was selfish
I always wonder how A-Rod's Yankee career would've played out if Rivera doesn't walk Millar which leads to the Roberts stolen base, which leads to the blown save and eventual blown series, which I saw coming a mile away after they blew Game 4 because that Yankee team's pitching staff sucked. But through the first 4 games of the series, there had been no better player than A-Rod and if Mo seals the deal, A-Rod is the ALCS MVP heading into the World Series. It doesn't matter because things happened the way they happened but people put that series on A-Rod, they blame him for 05-07 eventhough everybody else also played like shit and then use whatever lame ass excuse they want to discredit his 2009 postseason. He wasn't Derek Jeter or Bernie Williams in the playoffs but he was hardly as bad as people act like either.
NYYanks2003040506 well said.
Right on.
Agreed...
Yup. And you know what else? Ortiz was terrible the first 4 games too. A-Rod who had good playoff numbers with Seattle comes here and does that in his first year? Completely different ball game and he doesn't get in his own head.
I actually think matsui would of been mvp but you’re right. Arod was clutch through those first 4 games of the 04 ALCS. I actually thought of that too. If the yanks close it out, does Arod’s playoff woes and criticism happen? Sadly, we’ll never know
"He was concerned about putting numbers up."
Yeah, for money...
And for glory and attention.
@@HelloooThere he already had money it was a ten year contract
@@HelloooThere Yeah, imagine that, a professional athlete that wanted to succeed so he could make more money. Such a wild concept.
@@e2go It’s not so wild. I’m surprised you (or anybody) would think so.
I'm pretty sure Ken Griffey Jr. and Randy Johnson didn't look up to Alex, Joe.
they didnt like him
Exactly what I was thinking. He wasn't a leader in Seattle, in fact he was somewhat hated even by the fans.
that team not winning a WS is crazy..had buhner and olerud , right?
Big Unit would have destroyed A-Roids in a fight. Even Griffey could probably take him. He's a chump.
Olerud came after Unit and Griffey left. On paper you would think that. I mean the 97 team, which was easily the best, had Griffey and ARod and Edgar Martinez and Buhner in their primes, plus even frickin Paul Sorrento and Russ Davis were good that year. They could score, but other than Unit their pitching was a mess. No offense to Jamie Moyer, but if he's your #2 starter going into the playoffs then you're in trouble. The bullpen was a disaster and easily the worst in the AL - not joking when I say the bullpen's WAR was like a -9. Basically unless Unit was going to pitch three 8-inning shutouts per series they had a very slim chance.
1:20 & 3:17 Wrong. Alex was great and progressing rapidly early on. But in Seattle, Griffey was that guy.
Very true. Even after Griffey left Seattle, Edgar Martinez was the leader, not Arod.
To Alex defense I don’t think the Yankees paid him to move runners over, if he don’t put up the numbers they say he is a flop and overpaid, when your a superstar u get all the glory but also all the blame
Joe says it so correct and he speaks as a hall of famer coach should. Being a fan, if Alex Rodriguez were 0 for 18 with 3 walks and a last bat to win the World Series and he hits a looper over first base to drive in the winning run to win the Championship then all is forgotten individually because the Team won. Going forward in life is not about "Service to Self but Service to others"... Graham is a great interviewer. Really brings in both sides which we need right now
I am a longtime, diehard Red Sox fan and can honestly say I have always admired Alex. Yes, even in his Yankees days against Boston-- which puts me in a big minority, of course. I could never get myself to see him as a villain-- the guys I despised were actually the annoying Jorge Posada/Scott Brosius types on those winning teams before Rodriguez got there. If NY had held out and won in 04' I would have been crushed... but secretly happy for A-Rod. Even now, I think his work as an analyst is brilliant and he is a very likable guy. Yes, call it a man crush if you will.
I agree. I’m a Yankee fan and can tell you I liked him better than Jeter.
I love hearing this from a Yankee fan. To me, Alex was misunderstood and people were fooled. I think Alex is the humble, stand up guy that Jeter wanted others to BELIEVE he was. Some people are gifted at creating a certain impression of themselves that is not genuine. If you ask me, Alex is the genuine one. And more intelligent too.
@@mikel9248 I agree. The only criticism I have I felt for awhile now. It's minor but when doing an interview he sometimes comes across as too canned, like tv anchorman phony.
I remember walking to the subway the same night a crazy triple murder and eventual police killing the suspect happened like an hour prior. All the major stations were there and seeing each broadcaster with their impossibly perfect hair even on a cold windy night, their suits and coats..it's one thing seeing it on TV but a matter of less than 10 feet away, they almost seemed like robots. Like their power is off and as soon as they go on the air someone hits a switch and they're powered on. A-rod always struck me as trying to be like that, flawless with his clothes, speech, wording, smiling, timing, cracking jokes, laughing, etc. It's not a bad thing but more like an annoying kind of thing, especially if you had to work with him every day I could imagine.
@@sjang816 I agree with you on that... no doubt. He is groomed and instructed to be that way on camera, of course... but I think by nature he is a lot like that anyway. Still seems like a great dude. I met David Ortiz once and had the privilege of actually having a short conversation-- and I can honestly say he is genuinely the same in person as he is on TV. Pretty much the exact same.
I used to work for MLB, and the one time Jeter was in the office he ignored everyone. He even cut me off in a hallway and acted like I wasn't there. But when Alex came in, he hung out with everyone. He was just the nicest guy. I think that says it all.
How does that make him selfish?... Joe Torre said himself, Alex thought that if he outnumber numbers the team would take care of it self... meaning he was going to do his part for the team. I don't know, maybe it's the A-Rod fan in me but I don't see that as selfish.
Every single player in baseball is playing for their stats. It could be a ten run game and hitters will still take a walk to improve their numbers. The idea that there are guys in baseball who would hurt their own numbers just to help the team is bullshit. How would you even do that?
Not at all. They might not have won as many regular season games without A-Rod being that good. And it is not like he was not a great player because he was.
ARod literally switched positions when he joined the Yankees. He was EASILY a better shortstop than Jeter, probably the best in the entire sport, but for the good of the team he played third and I don't remember him complaining about it at all. That alone makes him incredibly unselfish to me.
Joe Torre is a hell of a guy
Basically Torre is saying we really did not need him lol or want him in a polite way!
JOE TORRE WAS A GREAT PLAYER,HE KNOWS BASEBALL AND A GREAT MANAGER.
Yes indeed
Rodriguez was a team killer. Every team he went to was better before he got there and better after he left. That being said, anybody that can make 30 mil a year playing a game has a lot more going on then most.
i see what you’re saying but the guy was a huge contribution to their ring in ‘09
@@itsNRC his postseason performance that year was a fluke. all other postseasons he chokes lol
@@gforce97 ya but they won the world series it doenst matter if you or anyone thinks it was a fluke, the point is it happened & they won.
it. is . very. hard. to. win. a . world series
Shouldve told him and Giambi to get off the Roids.
@Outtellect Anomaly For cheating the game, dumbass. #wheresyourmom
The whole team was on roids
A Rod was all about ALEX still is all about ALEX even after retiring from baseball
click👏bait👏garbage 👏headline 👏
No it was a correct title he said it when he said he cared about putting numbers up (padding stats) instead of helping them win
Was the first line in the interview.....
Ur an idiot and beyond stupid because in plain english Torre clearly said all Alex cared about was himself and not the team
Frank Williams padding stats and caring about numbers is two different things moron
Gee I'd be worried about putting up numbers too if I was signed to a $250 million dollar contract in the most ruthless sports market on earth. Whats more selfish is Jeter refusing to moving over when the team signed a superior short stop, and make no mistake, A-rod was the superior short stop. Its OK though because he didn't cry about it an learned an entire new position because he knew it was the best thing for the team. Also he really seem selfish every time the camera would point to the dugout and he would be giving hitting tips to literally every rookie that got called up for the past 13 years. Man, what an awful teammate...
Antwon Jenkins Bullshit, Jeter had signed his contract with the Yankees with the understanding that he would be the everyday Shortstop so why should that change because they signed another player who was NOT superior, that’s BULLSHIT!!!
Jordan Peters Jeter wasn’t even in the Top 3 SS in the AL at that time. Put Jeter on Boston, Texas or Cleveland and NONE of those teams are better. Now put Arod, Nomar or Omar with the Yankees and they are better in all 3 cases!
Jeter rode the coattails of other players when he won his rings!
Chris Olejko your hate has caused you to utilize false equivalency and nonsense scenarios to bastardize logic. Since the beginning of MLB 5 players have more hits than Derek Jeter... 5! Argument over! Goodbye.
Jordan Peters when did he win a ring after it became “His Team”? ONE!!!!!!!! The first 3 he rode Martinez, O’Neill, coattails. He didn’t get #4 until they got Arod to take the pressure off him. As for the hits he played 20 years when pitching is watered down and can’t pitch inside without getting a warning.
I’m not saying he isn’t a good player but he is overrated as a champion! He’s the Phil Rizzuto of the modern day game!
Jordan Peters Arod was a better shortstop defensively hitting wise they were near each other but jeter was a weaker and wouldn’t have as much home runs as Arod
I don’t think there was a season where he wasn’t on peds
Welcome to professional sports.
I am not a fan of A-Rod. At all. But Torre never said the guy was "selfish". It is anti-social to not only mislead in a title but also spread falsehoods about someone.
If you don’t put up “good numbers”, the Yankees wouldn’t sign you to begin with.
Joe Torre was divorced twice b4 his career was over. He had great players in NY. He was a much player than a manager
He was obsessed with excellence, not willing to let the other mediocre players damage his game.
Obsessed with money and attention
Name 1 player that doesn’t
@@elpotopeludo DJ
@@BxAllMightYy he wouldn’t resign for the right money …. DJ was selfish too
@@BxAllMightYy If Jeter wasn't selfish he would've let ARod play shortstop since it was widely recognized that he was far better.
You knew Joe Torre was way to diplomatic and a cool customer to ever call out A rod like that
I wish I would have listened to this when I was in high school.
Graham, you're better than this. You didn't need to title this as is. It could have been something more innocuous and people would have clicked based on your output quality.
A more apt title would have been - "Joe Torre: Alex Rodriguez tried to do too much."
L.Pasteur really this was a terrible title
I see some disagreement over whether the title of the post is misleading. I think it’s accurate. Torre is being extremely diplomatic. When he said that ARod would try for the hit instead of the sac fly or moving the runner over (what the team needed to win), he’s absolutely damning ARod for being more interested in padding his own numbers. Torre is not going to come right out and say “ARod was a selfish a**hole.” That’s not Torre’s way. Update: after reading more comments, I need to be more blunt. Some of you folks aren’t too sophisticated. Just because Torre doesn’t use the word “selfish,’ doesn’t mean he didn’t communicate the idea. He certainly did.
Come on do you really think in the history of Baseball even one player ever tried for a sac fly ? No they all try for a hit. Why would anyone want to make an out on purpose. If they bunt they better be hauling ass down to 1st base. If it's called a sac fly or sac bunt after the fact you can bet the hitter still wanted to get on base. And A Rod wasn't hired to not get on base.
@@Diggerdog2nd You don’t know much about baseball. Your claims are so dumb I’m wondering if you are just trolling.
@@mrmojorisin8752 yeah I don’t think he’s trolling. Hitters to get
Out on purpose like sacrifice bunts
He did, but he also said they need A-Rod to be that good at times too. But A-Rod probably did focus too much on home runs instead of sacrifices or doing what was needed to win.
😂😂Yes, ARod was so selfish that when Torre and the Yankees wanted him to move to third base allegedly for the good of the team (despite being a FAR better shortstop offensively and defensively than Jeter) that's exactly what he did. Yankees were too concerned about crowning Jeter the king of the franchise instead of winning by the mid 2000s😂
He was selfish and a hgh user sad cause he was my favorite player hoping he would become home run king the right way...but nope
@@benjaminkell3726 so why don’t you do it if it’s so easy ?
He pretty much called him a stat padder
Great content on Torre's part but the title of this video is so wrong it almost makes me mad.
Joe Torre was the 1971 NL MVP
I'm only 52 but a lifelong Yankees fan. I'm calling him the greatest Yankees manager of all time and that is saying alot. Billy Martin was more charismatic. Casey Stengel more entertaining. Miller Huggins and Joe Mcarthy had greater teams. But this guy had a passion and absolute love for New York and The Yankees. Steadfast and disciplined were his mantras. The crap we have now really makes us Yankee fans appreciate dear ol Joe.
Steinbrenner wasn't paying Arod $25 mill a year to move runners over...When we would have two men on and Jeter came up, how many times did Torre ever ask him to sacrifice ??
i went to games where down 2 runs in the 9th and nobody on Arod would bunt for a hit to get tying run up and moron fans would boo
Bensinger dropping a click bait title like this....I am not surprised. I do not have a clue how you manage to interview these guys.
Graham Bensinger, Joe Torre never said Alex Rodriguez is selfish. If you think so, change the title to “Graham Bensinger: Alex Rodriguez is selfish”
So he was thinking about numbers and he was the MVP of the AL right before he gets to the Yankees! What the fuck he supposed to think about Joe?
A player thats concerned about his stats is a great thing!!! Imagine if the whole team did it
Sure, but he was also a locker room cancer
@@VerbeekTruther No he wasnt ppl were jealous of him cuz he was good looking and had more money than all of em.. jealousy
@@JonDoe-fo3kl never mind that he was a fuckin asshole too, I’m sure that had nothing to do with it
Notice how so many superstars almost always end up in NY or LA ?
How is that fair.
Kansas City has almost zero chance
Dude change the title, not sure what click bait bs ur pulling but torre is a class act.. this title is ridiculous
You can’t pass the ball in baseball. Surely if he cares about numbers it means he cares about doing his job?
misleading titles costs you credibility and viewers in the long run. i'm sure i'm not saying anything that you don't know, but it's just my way of saying i am already bothering with your videos less.
Graham you're becoming like a 10x better Vlad lol
Choke-Rod is what we call him in our Yankee clan! I figured we could have possibly won a few more series without him and having all that money he locked up, could've picked up some great players too.
Wouldn’t have a championship for 21 years if it wasn’t for arod lol
@@TruStoogeDrew. seriously most Yankee fans are ungrateful in 09 arod was the hero precisely the same year they won!
2009 he helped win the world series
@@Xenlacasa45 I'm with you on that
Yankees moved ARod to third when he was easily the best shortstop in the league😂 They cared more about making Derek Jeter the leader of the franchise than winning
Change the title. Joe never said that he was selfish
Quite clearly, Joe Torre said Rodriguez liked shellfish.
It’s gotta suck going through life with that sense of humor and people just don’t get it.
At no point in this interview did Joe Torre say Arod was selfish. He said he tried to do to much and cared about putting up numbers. Wow, what a selfish guy. Total click bait title that completely distorts what was actually said.
The title is so off.
Wow what a misleading title smh 🤦🏻♂️
This title is such clickbait and misleading
Tell me something we don't know Joe!!!
All I remember is that last year. Tex & Alex were horrible. At the all star break They were both below.200 and like 3 HRs between them. Tex said I just don't have it anymore , retired and stepped aside. Alex became a "consultant" because he couldn't give up the $$. Can't fully blame him but only one reason he was no Jeter in NYC.
tex didn't step aside. he finished out the season then retired. arod was getting paid either way. both of them got all of the money they were owed as they should have.even if arod didn't work as a consultent he would have gotten every cent they oweed him.
cute you don't mention jeter who could barely move at short still hitting first and second . it got so insane they even had no hit good glove shortstop brenden ryan playing first base to placate jeters ego.
Nah, ARod actually has a great baseball mind and is passionate about the sport. Jeter became the "all about money" guy with his Marlins debacle😂
The guy gave up his career at short and people still on his Ass, don't sleep Jeter was no Angel. He was just quiet. The ones quiet you look out for. Alex made it to Jeter's to apologize and he blew him off.
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It's incredible that Joe Torre has the balls to even imply that ARod was selfish after he agreed to move to third on the Yankees despite being the best in the sport. He was twice the shortstop Jeter ever was and it wasn't even a debate at the time😂
I never liked A-Rod from the beginning because he seemed to love the attention, the cameras, the lights, and then the steroid thing came out. But I can't deny his talent. His natural talent was on par with Cobb's. And someone mentioned earlier his coaching and helping the rookies; that is all true. Every bit of it. The guy loves baseball, its his wife to be honest. The sad thing in A-Rod's story is the fact he cheated by using drugs, when the truth of the matter is he never needed drugs to be an all time great to begin with.
I loved arod and always will, clearly you don't remember the beginning of his career. He was a Seattle Mariner, made his debut in the refuse to lose season, had a 40/40 season all on his rookie deal, and while making it look fun. Watch a teenage and young 20s Arod and tell me you don't see the love of the game and only that there.
I have bad news for you about **insert your favorite baseball hero from recent memory** then if you are wrapped up with steroids. And no, you don't know how good he was without them because ARod was doing shit all the way back to high school.
Team sport? You can play a game, never get on base, never make an out in the field and win a game. It’s the most individual sport amongst a team sport there is.
Joe WTH are you going on about. The M teams he was on were pretty loaded and if I recall what team won 116 games? Oh yeah that was the year after he left for Texas. BTW Last time I checked Pudge was on the Rangers as well.
He wasn’t on that 116 win team genius
There isn’t a single moment where Joe Torre says “Alex Rodriguez was selfish”.
Stop sensationalizing.
He says he was more interested in individual numbers than team wins. Get a clue and realize that is the definition of selfish.
Peter was far more selfish than Alex. Alex was the better defensive shortstop, and Jeter refused to move.
Derek Jeter is an iconic yankee that was home bred. He don’t need to change for anyone. His leadership and clutch play led the Yankees to 5 titles.
@@johnre5342 cLUtCH pLAy
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@@johnre5342 Jeter wasn't even close to the shortstop ARod was. If he cared about the team so much he would've moved.
@@e2go Alex had much better stats but Jeter was a better leader and more clutch. He was a winner and had the right to stay where he was. Comparing them is like comparing aaron rodgers to tom brady.
My esteem for Joe Torre eroded greatly when he disparaged several of his former players in his book in order to make a fast profit. In conclusion, what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room.
He worked hard & juiced
Misleading title
So when did Joe say that Alex was selfish??
When he stated Alex cared about individual stats rather than winning a game . Which is selfish in sports .
Did cashman talk to torre before signing him
I’m a Red Sox fan, so I’m not defending anyone here, but Joe Torre did say Alex was selfish. That’s not how I understood that conversation. Bad title
Salary depends on personal numbers, not team wins.
Mucho click bait! Video has nothing to do with the title! BS
A-roid showed his true colors multiple times. Quite frankly he really wasn't the best at what he did. Defensively or offensively.
I was never a fan of Jeter either but he was clean and did it right. Respect to Jeter.
A-roid? All the talent in the world pissed away on ego, stats and childishness. "I didn't slap the ball out of his glove that was my running motion, I swear" 🤣🤣🤣
Jace 2wheel to deal with mediocre people like you, people need some type of power and Alex didn’t know, that why he use esteroide.
Id take arod on my team over jeter any day at shortstop. And when my team goes head to head with yours when jeter gets a single arod will be hitting grandslams he second all time in grandslams
@@Xenlacasa45 lol I wouldn't take either of em. I'd rather have good players on my team
He needed a hit all-right steroids
Some baseball players was on steroids couldn't even hit the ball
Graham, I like your interviews but the title of this video is completely misleading. Stuff like this is the reason why media has no credibility these days.
If the Yankees don’t collapse in 04 against Boston, do we beat the cardinals in the World Series that year?
I doubt it. The Cardinals had arguably the best bullpen in baseball that year and a better rotation. They lost to the Red Sox in the World Series that year because they hit below the Mendoza line (.190), and as a team hit .129 with RISP.
All I have heard about A-Roid is he is a huge D Bag. Also heard in a recent doc that he was on the "Juice" since his senior year of h/s
The team concept does not include bat flipping grandstanding selfish players.
Well for Torre winning games are his version of stats, you cant knock a player for wanting to get stats, those stats hopefully win games
He didn’t. He actually defended arod and his thinking, which you outlined
Newsflash: How is this news?
Wow, breaking news there. This just in, the sun rises in the east.
1:35 arod was leagues ahead in talent
"Was" is not there proper term. "Still is" is far more accurate. 😏
ARod bashing still goes on, even after he retire. Come people move on. He pay his dues and listen what Joe Torre said about Arod exemplary work ethics.
Because on roids you can work more then anyone
Graham what’s up with the clickbait titles?🤷♂️ C’mon man you are better than this!
one year he was a team player 2009 thats it
Yankees don’t win in 2009 without Alex Rodriguez
Grahan, you need to work on your titles a little be more my friend.
@@cobborator I agree with you Daniel...Thank you.
A lot of commenters are upset at the title and are calling it click bait because Torre did not use those exact words. . "Click bait title" "He didn't say that".
Well... yes he did. Torre said Alex was worried about his individual numbers. In a sport like baseball, where you play together everyday for 6-8 months with little to no separation from one another, any manager will tell you the only number a player should be focused on is the number of wins the team has.
Being focused on individual statistics, particularly when you're an elite player in a position of leadership, is about as selfish as it gets for a MLB player and contradicted everything Joe Torre believed in, and also contradicted the way Torre played the game during his career.
You can also assume, with a high level of certainty that if Rodriguez cared so much about individual statistics that he also had a deep concern for other individual accomplishments, regardless of whether or not this benefited the team.
Peter Gammons once remarked that after a game Rodriguez said to him, "how'd I do today Peter?" Peter replied, "well you went 0-4 Alex, what do you mean?" Rodriguez responded, "No, I mean with you guys, with the media! How'd I do with you guys?!"
THANK YOU
He worried about his individual numbers, he put alot of pressure on himself, because he wanted the team to win..that was basically the gist of it. Nothing about selfishness.
I never heard him say Alex was selfish. Alex was a leader and a super athlete. His passion to win and to be successful always comes off as cocky or selfish. They say the same thing about Michael Jordan, but these guys are not the typical athlete. They expect the best from themselves and others. Alex was one of the best...., I don’t care what anybody says!
Yeah Joe ? Now you saying it . Gee thanks
Giambi and Arod screwed the Yankees with the steroids 100%..cost them a few titles...Yankees mis stepped by not signing alot of the wrong guys.
If A-Rod were to have a sex change operation he would look JUST LIKE J.Lo!!!!
Maybe that's why he loves her so much. Reference: kissing mirror photo
Honestly Cashman should shoulder a lot of balme too. After Stick Michael created a cohesive group of selfless players in the late 90s you basically spent the next decade buying the most expensive players in the league that are all roided up and expect that team to gel? And now he might let Judge walk? How does he still have a job at this point?
In baseball getting stats do lead to wins with very few exceptions.
Actually no. It's not "get the stats and wins take care of themselves" it's the other way around. From 1980 to 2009 there wasn't a single MLB HR leader to win a championship. When McGwire & Sosa were hitting 70 & 66 HRs they watched the post season at home. The Yankees won 125 without a single 30HR guy. In fact.. only Bernie Williams reached 30 HRs once during Torre's 4 Ring seasons. The last time NY won a championship with a 40+ HR hitter was in 1961. It's not a stat contest.
@@kingcassius2586 that’s true they got the likes of Stanton and judge a team who relies on homeruns now and they haven’t won a championship yet.
@@kingcassius2586 The Yankees certainly didn't care about stats when they brought ARod in because if they did he would've been playing shortstop. He was too much of a team player in agreeing to move to third so the Yankees could make Jeter the king of the franchise instead of having a far better player play arguably the most important position on the field.
Never came close to saying that. I agree. Click bait. You're better than this.
When he was playing w JR in Seattle, it wasn't Alex and everyone else. Love Joe though
Seattle had a loaded roster back then
Paulo Cerqueira agree. But Jr Griffey was the possible GOAT then
Arod was better than Jr when they both played in Seattle.
Cory Hill what are your smoking exactly?!
Go look and compare their 1996 stats (Arod's 1st full season in the league). Griffey was never the best hitter in the AL, that was Frank Thomas. Later in the decade with Arod he wasn't even the best hitter on his own team.
Click bait thanks for the horrible headline . Even torre would be pissed off at this you're better then this
Title is misleading
Man if Torre says you are selfish it says alot. Instead of A-Rod actually was A-Douche.
except, he didn't say that
Torre was too stupid to know he had the best shortstop in the league and put him at third base😂
Misleading title !!! Graham you're starting to act like a weasel
If you were all about TEAM, stop signing these 'individual-type' guys.