How Spinnerbaits REALLY Sound - You'll Be Shocked
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- What do spinnerbaits really sound like underwater? Let's listen to five different styles and sizes and then compare them to the frequencies science says bass actually hear. I think you'll be as surprised as I was.
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Never would have guessed they were basically silent. Great info, great video.
Glad you enjoyed!
I love the underwater videos! It really changes my perspective and knowledge on what the fish see/hear/feel. Thank you!
Glad you like them!
Except our senses aren't the same as a fish's. They can see better underwear than we can and they see colors differently than we can.
Thank you Steve for all the work you put into your videos. It really shows and I really appreciate it
You are very welcome. I really enjoy working on them.
The audio cutoff would be amazing to include with all sound testing. I wonder what top waters sound like now - spooks, choppo, poppers.
Great video sir. I’m always blown away at how thorough they are.
Thanks! They are fun to work on.
I second this! I'd add buzzbaits to the list of lures that I wanna hear with the audio filter
I want to hear - Hulapopper, Rebel PopR, Jitterbug, buzz baits with the various blade types. Great series of video 👍
Got it! Thanks!
Still my top 5 bait to throw.
Your the King of anything BASS
That makes me think the bass are keying in on the thump of the blades with their lateral lines. It also makes me wonder if a bladed jig is similar. Once again, some really intriguing results! Great work!
I can’t wait to try and investigate the water displacement. Should be fun to figure out.
@@SteveRogersOutdoorschatterbait is a great idea... also lipless/rattlerap.
Absolutely eye opening , thank you steve..
I've used Strike King spinnerbaits for decades. They truly are #1! Caught a 5 and 7lb. bass this spring on a white3/8oz in less than 1ft of water!
Interesting. I have always thought it was more about the vibration than sound or the look.
it is the force of the water displacement of the blades that the lateral line picks up mixed with the flash and silhouette which makes it a great lure.
Great video. Doug hannon always said the spinnerbait was one of the most natural and therfore successful presentations out there.
I had read an article from him saying that which is what inspired me to dig into this. Doug was right on!
I agree and recall Doug. I feel pros not use as much do to water clarity. I think they feel ultra clear water fish get too good a look. Im wondering if get rid of skirt and just use a soft plastic would be more realistic and inline with blade size appearing more like small school bait fish
Eye and Ear opener. Thanks!
I'm blown away Steve. Like you, I thought that spinnerbaits were noisy. This really changes my perspective on this bait. I need to get them out and start throwing them like I used to. Great video!
Thanks! I am going to be using them in some different situations than I have in the past. This was a fun one to work on.
Another winner Steve. Great video. Underwater footage of bass behavior and varying lure actions puts your work over the top. Now, we’re getting to hear how lures sound underwater & what frequencies bass hear. It’s easy to feel your passion for what you do. We benefit. Thanks! 🎣👍🏼😎
Thank you! I really enjoy it. Hopefully, someday I can hire someone to help me with all these. I have so many things I want to do and not enough hours to do them.
Cool info. Great video! But the bass are picking up the vibration on their lateral line more so than the sound. The more water you move, the more the bass will feel it! I don’t fish tournaments anymore & stay close to home now, South Central Louisiana & we have places with clear water to muddy water & in between as well. A colorado moves more water than a willow of equal size so in the muddy water, I fish a large colorado single blade. Creates a ton of vibration & allows for a slower retrieve to keep the lure in the strike zone longer.
This video gives me some ideas. Maybe a spinnerbait that doesn't make metalic noises but still vibrates would be good for some situations.
You mean a chatterbait? 😂 try the bass puzzle grass piece it's amazing for wood like a spinnerbait but has that good water displacement.
Extremely enlightening video
Thanks!
Thanks Steve God Bless.
Like the vids... thanks... I tend to believe it's more about the lateral line, over hearing or sight. A bass is supposed to see 8 times further in the water than us. But there are times I think a bass can feel even a weightless worm before sight ever comes into the equation.
Great information thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome information on those bait's Steve! I enjoy the unerwater footage, if every bait. It's great to see how every bait swims differently. 💯 😎
Glad you like them!
I believe that sound is not what matters but the water displacement they feel with their lateral line is . The sound we think that spinner baits, buzz baits, poppers etc make arent sctually ever heard by the bass , they are felt.
This is interesting! Please, please, PLEASE do this with the Berkley Choppo and the Whopper Plopper vs a buzzbait!
I definitely will get to that one!
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Amazing information on the spinner Steve! I'm blown away at how much sound they DONT make. Colorado blades from now on!
It was crazy. Not what I expected at all.
Hey, Steve, great to see ya and pray u are well. Love throwing a double willow spinnerbait
The double willow is my favorite! Always a fun bite. I need to throw it way more than I do. Have a terrific week!
Another educational video. My preferred spinner is always a single gold #4 blade with a white skirt. I would of thought there would be more thump.
I definitely thought there was going to be more too. That is a great setup you described!
Steve. Totally cool!
Have you considered testing topwater lures? I bet you'd find some interesting stuff.
A friend and I did something similar with topwater striper flies back in 2007. That was so long ago we had to make a DIY hydrophone and use a linguistics program to analyze the sounds. I bet your gear is way more effective.
We measured sound frequencies, duration, and decibels for 6 patterns. Each fly had a unique acoustic signature. The biggest surprise was finding that the loudest flies created a bubble ( like cavitation) when they dove underwater creating a "pop" ( up to 87dB) when the bubble imploded.
Cheers,
Rob
That is so awesome! I definitely will have a topwater video coming for sure.
Now if you could only get an underwater lateral line to assess vibration. Great content!
That would be amazing!
Love your videos Thankyou so much.
Can you test the sound of FFS ?
I am planning on getting the FFS filmed at the end of the month. Looking forward to it!
Very interesting results! I wonder what this means for the clicking of glass beads on a T- or C-Rig.
That is a great question! I will have to dig into that one.
Legend! I wonder about the vibrations being thrown off (or not) by the blades and if the bass sense them more than they hear them?
I hope to have a video out before too long measuring the water displacement. I think it will be a fun one to investigate.
I love throwing the spinnetbait
I believe they are feeling the blade vibration more so then hearing the sound vibration. Just my thought.
Yep, agree. Something about it is calling them, right? Crazy, because we simply can't perceive what it's like to combine the senses of low frequency hearing paired with lateral line sensation.
Flash. Lateral line is less than 2' feel.
Great stuff. Can you tell me about your hydrophone?
Sure! It is a professional hydrophone used for underwater research. It is a Ambient asf-2 mkii.
Amazing!
Thanks!
Steve it's the different vibration the blade put in the water. Not so much the clacking of the blades. Also depending on the clarity of water, the flash the blades give off. Your sound equipment is not going to pick up the vibration , like a bass through his lateral lines. I'm a semi-retired fishing lure manufacturer of my specialty was bass jigs sprinnerbaits, buzz baits and hair jigs. Those blades create a pulse in the water that the bass can hone in on. Each different type of blade puts out its own unique vibration.
I am working on a video that hopefully will be able to show/monitor/measure water displacement. The tough part is trying to make it visual. Lol. Thank you for sharing all this! I didn't realize you built lures. That had to be so rewarding.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors Yes I had a business for 25 years. It started as a hobby/ obsession turned into a business for many years. It was rewarding. I am also the inventor of the Liv-O-Lution jig that was popular in the north east back in the early 90's.
Hey Steve, great information as always, so is it possible the vibration is more important to the bass and not the sound?
I definitely think so. I want to a video measuring water displacement and see how that compares.
Good to know. I just last week got my very first hit from a bass using one of my spinner baits.
I had owned these spinner baits since I was in my mid-twenties. I'm 68 now.
I didn't catch that bass that hit my white spinner bait, I just watched and felt the bass hitting my lure.
It's a positive turn of events as far as I'm concerned. Now the only other bait in my arsenal that I haven't caught a fish with is the jig.
The jig is the one that was the most challenging for me when I was learning how to us it. That was the only lure I threw for an entire summer forcing myself to learn it. It worked - but it was a summer full of frustration at times. Now it is a confidence bait.
I think we're missing a point in this video which is that the sound is only half of the reason we like blades. Water displacement is what is felt via the fish's lateral lines, and there is a large difference in water displacement between the blade sizes and shapes.
In fact, this is the first video in which I've ever heard someone mention the sound of the blades. People usually mention the flash and the water displacement.
Water displacement is a huge one. I’m working on a video that hopefully will measure the differences between the different blade types. Thanks for bringing this up!
Recently heard that they don't really hear a spinnerbait which would concur with your study here, but they feel the pressure waves of the blades with the lateral lines. Again great video Steve. I think the next sound video should be sexy dawg vs hard knock sexy dawg walking across the top. I'd love to see the difference AND it would be great advertising for your sponsor.
That would be an excellent topic! I will add that to my production list. Thank you!
The ol terminator spinnerbaits love them I still have some and fish with them often that speeds of it's quality 😊
There was a time when there were a lot of those titanium spinnerbaits out there. Seems like only yesterday.
THAT was interesting!! Wonder how rattling lures and vibrating jigs sound..... I am thinking that we are being "sold" lines when it comes to sound and lures. I mean, what natural bait rattles and thumps when it swims?
It definitely opens up a whole new conversation and thought process for sure.
Hi Steve. I love your videos and the information you research and share. My question for this video is, do you think that bass hit spinner baits because of the sound, or is it more because of the vibration the blade emit in the water?
I definitely feel after investigating this that the water displacement and flash variations are the most important factors. I was totally surprised at how silent they actually are.
It would be cool to see and hear top water like boy howdy, redfin, spooks, frogs exc. Thanks for doing what you do
Definitely! I plan on doing a topwater one for sure.
So what sound on the Hydrowave would you say matches the spinner bait?
That is a great question. I haven’t used a hydrowave personally, so I would have to do some research on that one.
How many pods of minnows clank when they swim along?
this makes me want to keep my spinnerbaits on constant retrieve because i hate the sounds of the metal clacking on like on a pause or popping n twitching
yup straight retrieve for me based on MY ears i’ll bump the bottom but that’s it
My favorite moving bait by far.
It is a classic!
I'd love to see for this kind of video I found a spinner bait with a hatchet blade. It's from blackfly lures I'm curious how that sounds mostly cause I bought one 😅 hoping to be different to catch more
Interesting! Thank you! I will have to try and dig into that one.
This is so awesome Steve.
1. Wonder if you will do same sound test for say crankbaits and lipless? Maybe not necessary?
2. This might take my Paranoia away. I prefer quiet or one knock cranks or lipless.
3. Wonder if there is a test can be done on sonar frequency(maybe use ice fishing sonar by a dock) to prove what frequency spooks fish. I only did this once after Mark Zona did a show dirt on changing sonar so fish look like lasagna on screen and drop down over them. If recall it was putting sonar on frequency inline with your spinnerbait. But i guess that might do opposite, think they proved allready high frequency spooks fish, so maybe i answered my own question. Maybe i have a misunderstanding if what they can feel or hear.
These are all great question! I definitely plan to dig into as many of these as possible. I am working on one that I hope will show sounds that startle bass.
More great stuff, Steve. I do have a question tho.
At the end of your videos you always discuss another video that might be of interest but I never see a link. Am I missing something? Is it because I’m watching on a phone??
Thanks!
Great question. You should be able to click on the thumbnail image when it appears at the end and it will take you to that video. It should work on a phone. If it doesn’t definitely let me know. Thank you!
Thanks for the response! I rewatched the end of the video and didn’t see a thumbnail. I could be missing it but it sure didn’t jump out at me. 😅🤔
It would be interesting to see how bass hear c-rig and texas rig weight clicking on the bottom using that filter.
Definitely! I have added it to my production list. Thank you!
Interesting Steve. I wonder if “hearing” for a bass isn’t hearing. Their lateral line feels the vibration. Does this intend to mimic the lateral line frequency sensitivity or is it truly audible sensitivity. Not even sure that makes sense. Maybe they are the same but I always thought the big blades and “thump” was more for the feel and not the heat. What do you think? Thanks for producing these. Very informative
I am trying to work on a video that will somehow show water displacement as the blades turn to show those vibration waves. I definitely think after doing this test that the displacement/vibration is more important with these blades.
Greetings from tennessee. Are you going to do one on top water baits? I would love to hear the difference between a buzzbait a Whopper plopper, and even the different styles of chuggers.
Definitely! Hopefully, will be out this summer.
Never thought the blades would have made a sound in the water unless the clack together or hit something. Interesting that we can hear it but not the fish. I take it the lateral line can pick up the blades water presence though?
I definitely think the thump from pushing water is what they sense like you said. I was surprised how quiet they were.
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I thought it was a bad vibration not sound, sounds kind of a natural metal clicking but different blades put off different vibration, trying to get a reaction from the lateral line of the bass with vibration not sound😊
Sorry, I’ll try to keep it short since it didn’t print what I was saying. I thought it was vibration not sound that attracts bass, the natural metal clicking I would think would be a deterrent, I’m trying to appeal to their lateral line with vibration, different blades put off different vibrations, sorry about my first response, I need to learn to proofread. Lol.
I definitely agree that the vibration/water displacement is the key here along with varying levels of flash. I hope to have a vid out measuring the displacement of different blades.
Fishbusters strikes again! Haha amazing content.
Thanks! I really enjoy researching all these different things. Completely changes the way I now think about a lot of lures and presentations.
Fish a spinner bait from a basic aluminum boat with no carpet or flooring to deaden the sound. You can hear the vibrations in the hull.
I remember the first time I tossed a Rat L Trap from an aluminun v bottom as a kid, I was like what is going on. Lol.
I’d like to hear what a huge school of Shad sounds like. Does it really sound the same as a Hydrowave Shad sound? I wouldn’t think they’d make any sound to our ears unless it’s immensely amplified like 100 times the normal.
I am definitely working on that one. I have to take a trip to some water that has lots of shad in it. Mainly panfish around me. Hopefully it will be out soon!
The Bass after Dark just had the sound guys episode. Watch it very informative. Creator of the hydro wave and a man from Livingston lures. Worth the watch.
@@youtubzkoz of course they’re going to say their sounds are great. They’re making money off them. I was the first to comment on that vid before it ever aired and before I knew who the guest were. I said in my comment if it’s someone sponsored by TH Marine they’re going to say how important sound is because TH Marine owns Hydrowave. I have one that I won and I think it’s a gimmick as do many others.
@jamesbarron1202 still an interesting podcast/video. I think it's more like ffs where you have to know how/when to use it. But they talked about low HZ and other sound experiments.
@@youtubzkoz David Dudley is sponsored by TH Marine and he doesn’t even use one.
Wow ! Way quieter than I thought.
Me too!
I love your underwater videos. But I think you to grease your bearings. LOL 😁
Called me shocked. I cannot hardly believe that they would be silent to a bass, just wow. I truly need to get more large and extra large blades for dark or stained water fishing.
I was totally surprised. Makes me rethink my whole approach with them.
What if a old bass has wax in its ears ?😅😅 Steve your work is always very interesting! Ty so much
Thanks!
Have you done this with buzz baits? That would be very interesting.
I have a video I’m working on that should cover buzzbaits. Will be a fun one to put together.
What do depth finders sound like with high frequency eliminated? Maybe they don’t hear it as loudly as we think.
I think most depth finders state their frequency. So I would imagine if above 550hz they'd be silent, and below they would sound the same. But operating a sonar above the assumed 550hz limit to be undetected is a good point I hadn't considered.
I definitely want to go back to my footage and check this out. I’ve also lined up some folks to help me with testing the sounds from Forward Facing transducers. I will be filming that one towards the end of July.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors Your video on how loud sonar is made me think of it. Thanks for the great videos. I know it’s alot of work to make them.
Can they feel it in their lateral line ?
I would definitely think so. That water displacement I’m sure is picked up by the lateral line when the bass are close to the lures. Great question!
I dont think the audible sound 8s that important. I think its the vibration they make that is more kry for the bass to feel it through their lateral line.
Is there not a way to measure vibration instead of sound? I think that will open a whole new angle.
I am working on a video that I hope will show the water displacement/vibration. Still trying to figure it out but excited to work on it.
Lateral line feel has to be fairly close to the fish. ~2' is what I've heard from experts.
@@youtubzkoz interesting. I learn something new everyday.
Wow. Now do lipless crankbait!
I will plan on it. Thank you!
I'm not even sure what I learned here 🤔
I assumed it was quiet, which basically, it is. I also just assumed that the blades reflected the sun and gave the appearance of bait fish, which it does.
Can someone illuminate this vid for me please? Do I still assume what I already assume?
You are definitely right on. I always assumed they were a little louder than that which is why I wanted to dive into it. Thank you for watching!
@@SteveRogersOutdoors thanks for replying Steve.... I'm rewatching your vids again today...so much information to consume
Sounds like a chatter bait