Huge Rusty Vise - Restoration + Improvements
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- I bought these two huge rusted dirty old vises about a year ago, and now I finally got around to restoring the first of the two. I was originally going to put of these into one video, but due to getting a Sandblasting Cabinet and involving Machining among other things, the restoration turned out to be so much work that the video would have gotten too long. So I'm splitting this up and only doing the first vise for this video which is now my main workshop vise. Next time you'll see the second one being restored, which is even bigger and heavier!
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
2:10 Disassembly
4:44 Restoring Vise Handle
9:13 Restoring Main Spindle
10:50 Restoring Small parts
12:37 Restoring/Fixing Jaws + Screws
15:11 Fixing the Mounting/Locking Screw
17:23 Restoring/Machining Base Plate
20:00 Restoring Main Castings
21:23 Sandblasting
23:43 Machining Anvil Flat
25:08 Cold Bluing / Surface Conditioning
27:15 Finished Parts / Final Assembly
30:20 Finished Product - Věda a technologie
By the way, if anyone knows these vise models, any Info on the manufacturer/history would be welcome! I can't see any make or model designations on them that I recognize, so I have no idea where these came from originally
Nice job
Send some pics to Abom79 he’ll have the answers you seek.
Der größere der beiden dürfte ein 6er Meier & Weichelt aus Leipzig sein. Und auf jeden Fall älter als 1953, danach war das der VEB LES. Mit die besten Schraubstöcke, die es je gab. Unkaputtbar.
@@juleslobo5644 Danke! Das kommt genau hin nach dem was ich auf Google dazu finde. Cool die Historie zu kennen, mal sehen ob jemand auch den anderen identifizieren kann
@@PhilVandelay Translating Jules' comment for others: The larger of the two should be a 6er Meier & Weichelt from Leipzig. And definitely older than 1953, after that it was VEB LES. One of the best vises ever. Unbreakable. Gotta love good German Schraubstöckes :-) searching ebay de for them is a lot of fun even if the shipping is sky high and/or impossible.
When tools were built to last. Great video.
If you put 2 O-rings one at each end of the handle it will stop the loud bag each time you let the handle go and it also stops the deformation caused by the knobs hitting the screw head
Good idea, I'll try that
That’s actually the only half good reason to make the handle removable as near as I. Can tell because your obviously not going for a good as originally new restoration
And instead are going for a new to me ready for a new work life restoration
(The type most of us on here enjoy doing ourselves
Love the cold blue, and I really love that vise design. The giant casting support below the moving jaw in particular.
Yeah the more I worked on this the more I could appreciate how well it's made and how good the design is. I think you can't go wrong with an old vise this size, they didn't make those for hobbyists so they're built to last. The quality of the castings compared to the el cheapo vise says everything
I have two vises that had failed because of insufficient casting support of the movable jaw, one an LS Starrett, so I too appreciate the solid design of this vise.
Best vise restoration I have seen... Thank for letting the casting texture being seen. Best regards!
Beautiful! The cold bluing is just right. Looks like an anvil, ready to take a beating, and not even show it. I would also make soft jaws for it, to complete it.
Keep up with the vídeos Phil! These outstanding video, shop and tool quality are not easily seen elsewhere.
I appreciate your calm and cool attitude and narration. Excellent video.
A suggestion for an improvement on the vice handle. Install a rubber washer at each end to stop the clang of the handle when you release it. thanks for sharing. Cheers
A big o-ring works as well if you have one around
Please correct me if I’m wrong but I was always taught that you should hold your sandblasting gun at an angle. About 45 degrees.
That way the glass or sand bounces of the object taking the paint with it and that will increase the lifetime of the grit. Instead of turning it into powder.
Don't we all just love My Mechanics!!
Looks good. Wouldn't know it was the same vise! 👏
Very nice vise and I hope you will have a good time with it.
Years ago I got a big vise as a gift from a friend. Old beaten up and rust everywhere. At that point I saw a vise restauration video on YT and decided to restore it. So I disassembled it completley and soaked it in vinegar. First I planned 1 to 2 weeks but somehow I forgot it and it stayed for more than 6 months in the vinegar. And yeah now I have a vise with little to zero rust but with a lot of pocks. I started to file and sand it down but as you mentioned there are parts that cant be reached. The jaw inserts there completly eaten up by the vinegar and the hole distance is super odd. Haven't found suitable jaws anywhere yet.
At the moment I plan to use filler on the whole thing and sand it smooth. After that paint. Just metal would be pretty ugly with all the pock marks.
Awesome overhaul job Phil! I do have to say that the cold blue looks great too! Good job!
I was literally just randomly reminiscing about your belt grinder build this morning, and hoping for some awesome new project (:
Great job and thanks for sharing Phil. That's a unique vise with an anvil horn on it and by the way my crystal ball show's me that your purchase and restoration of this vise was well worth it as you will purchase a welding table and mount the said vise to the welding table
New sub, love the "Don't have the patience for that"!!
Nicely restored vice. Well done and good job Phil
This vise was never this good until U made it the finest vise in ur city = job well done
Great video, it’s good to see a restoration video where they don’t remove the 30 years of work out of the tool but still have the old saw marks and dints left on and in it
Phil, I could not think of a better reason to buy a blasting cabinet. Also, the cold blue finish looks great.
That is some of the best work l have seen on refab on those vise.
I liked the blued look better than paint looking forward for the next
Thanks!
Very nice. Who doesn't like seeing an old vice getting a second chance? I hope you checked for lead based paint and took proper precautions.
Love the Bluing! Why paint and then beat up in a shop! Some restorers paint and polish them so they look like a Xmas tree ornament! Thanks for posting such great work and take care!
This is two years later but maybe still interesting .. the shim you found behind the moving jaw might have been to ensure that the two jaws meet perfectly planar to each other. In the last few shots of the completed build it seems to me the jaws are touching at the top but not the bottom, meaning a shim below the screws might have fixed that before. Probably a non-issue anyways but thought I'd add that :)
One way or another - wonderful build and the cold-blue is something I would not have thought of so thanks for the inspiration!!
Really cool t-shirts! Just grabbed a couple..
That is maybe the nicest vise I have seen. You made it better than new.
I really like the way the vise came out. Good choice on the finish. Thanks for showing this.
You have done a very respectful job. You have preserved the magic, old equipment possesses.
Nothing to say, nothing to add.
Perfect job.
Bravo.
That's one hell of a piece of equipment! Finish really suits it.
Wow ! That was an awesome restoration. Beautiful work done, one of the best I've seen. 👌 Keep bringing those videos for us to watch.
Doing a restoration myself for a Record No. 6. I was going to hammerite it, but the cold blue looks magnificent :o
Excellent restoration. Glad you saved that old vise. I think the cold blue gave it a nice industrial look. I've got a couple of vises I'm gonna restore. May just cold blue one!
great video, love that you restore the vise and not pimp it up to unuseble.
That was mind blowing 👍👍
I was just waiting for your mill to come into action 😊 and it has come
Working on one myself, thanks for the video, it has helped a lot. Like the black painted parts, the red is nice too just not sure how it will hold up, great job.
You do a nice job Phil and i found this video very soothing and easy to watch well done
Well, to be honest, that was one of the best vice casting I've ever seen, so the "rough" look was a very good choice. I would like the bluing to be darker, but it is already very nice.
Good job.
CZcams suggested your Channel and I am glad it did. Love your work and I agree completely with all your decisions loved removing the rust leaving the pits and the blue looks great in the Vice.
Well done especially the finish
Beautiful work! Your work and videos are always such high quality!
Yes, I really love how this vice turned out. Lovely.
Turned out nice! I'm surprised you didn't add a thrust washer under the head of the main screw (the one that moves the jaw). Makes loosening the vise when tight much easier and just adds more smoothness to the operation.
I really like the design of that vise.....I have old Wilton but yours looks way more solid ( wilton over-rated in my opinion) I laughed a little when you said you weren't doing a full restore , I told myself ya we'll see haha. Never seen bluing on casting it looks great.
Haha. Exact same thought.
Excellent video. The shots, the lighting, the new life in the machinery...and the music at the end! I was hooked!
Thats a monster, great resto job 👍
14:15 I have seen black smiths put mangled screws in a round "hole" that fit the diameter with the head in a countersinked space, to be able to hammer it back to shape without losing material.
Love the video and I have to say I've often wondered why restores don't blue vises. If used regularly I guarantee it will look better in five years than a similarly used painted vise.
Yep, can confirm that. I've been using this a few years now and it still looks great and shows no rust. I think painting is fine if you do it professionally (e.g. Powdercoating) but anything applied with a brush will look terrible for a tool like this that sees heavy use
Excellent result, it couldn't get better, congratulations on your excellent work, greetings from Portugal.
1] I completely agree re: bluing vs paint and the perfect finish that results in having a vise you're afraid to use.
2] You're not unaware of the fact that your idea of the "preserved *rugged look"* [8.00], is really the *"perfect look"* for most ;)
It's why your belt sander [shown in this video], turned out as it did; perfect in my opinion. It's why I subscribed.
Btw, *great job on this vise.* I'm looking forward to the next restoration as well.
Lovely work and what a well designed vice. Like the result. You got my subscription. Almost a 70 year tool and look like new. 👍🏻
Yep I really like this vise. There's another addition for it coming soon!
Nice job I really love the design of that swivel looks really cool 👍👍👍
Outstanding as always, while enjoying the video, I thought-brother…you seriously need a blast cabinet, next scene…poof, there it is-guess you were listening 🤣 thanks for another great video ✅👍
Great work!!! Love the cold blue.
The Black stain finish looks good , I hope it will protect the steel fro rust. Job well done. that VISE will be around longer than we will.
very nice work. you fix a tool, not a shinny thing for looking only
you do great work...
Awesome as always!!!
awesome work! NICE finish...
Great result👍
Looks great! 👍
Awesome work!
Just brilliant!
That was absolutely awesome to see such a great vise get restored and the way you did it was perfect. I completely agree that it is better to leave the imperfections etc. as it's not a museum display lol you are actually using it. I think you did an amazing job. I would give almost anything to own that vise lol but oh well. I hope you get many years of use out of it.
Very nice restoration, well done.
Great work! I totally agree with you on the painting the vise
I really like the blued finish. Looks great with the wear, and very practical for a working shop.
Phil print your build or restoration projects onto your shirts, EG this vise on a T-shirt would be mad!
Nice job Sir. I agree with you. Looks much better in bare metal. I used to be a motor mechanic. Paint on garage vices lasts five minutes.
Awesome job!
Wunderbar gemacht und zum Glück nicht kaputt restauriert.
Beautiful!
Perfect! Congratulations
13:20 I hope by now you've got a manual impact driver? That's the only right way to remove old big tight screws like that due to the simultaneous inward and rotational force they impart. Using the power impact was a massive gamble, glad it mostly worked out though, phew.
Very nice job, thanks.
Well like you said it's a working vise so no need to paint it. The cold blueing on the casting came out great, nice job. Thank you for taking time to film and post this video, liked and subscribed.
Gorgeous!
Excellent! Can't wait for the second vise restoration....
Smashing resto.....the finish is terrific
Great restoration mate!
Really nice vice. Well worth your effort. Nice job too.
Beautiful job
Great work
Awesome job.
I think you did a fantastic job. It came out great as a usable tool.
Thanks for restoring the vise and not rebuilding or redesigning it as so many others on CZcamsrs do.
Good to see you again sir
All I can say is wow! Nicely done
Great work very satisfying to watch and learn. Like the shirt designs too
Finally, a restoration job that does just that - restoration. I hate the OCD for mirror polishing parts like in most other restoration videos. If the parts were meant to be mirror polished, the original manufacturer would have certainly done that, or have them chrome plated at least. This OCD to get eyeballs on YT is going out of proportion here on YT.
I enjoyed the video, thank you.
I agree. But I have to say that I have done a couple "over the top" restorations on very small vises. They belonged to my dad and I wanted to bring them back to life. It was more of an exercise in futility.
@@michael7324 Or perhaps an exercise in love for your Dad or his memory.
That looks awesome
Beautiful restoration buddy 👍 i like it 👍
Nice job I really like the finish
Gute Arbeit, sieht sehr gut aus. Es ist eine verbreitete Unsitte, die Drehbasis von Schraubstöcken zu fetten. Bei dieser Verbindung bist du auf Haftreibung angewiesen und nicht auf möglichst weiches gleiten. Bremstrommeln fettest du ja auch nicht, oder? Ansonsten topklasse Arbeit wie immer. Love it.
Genial...!!..Excelente Restauración...Saludosss
Looks great nice video
Oh, great now I vise envy! Nice find. Good quality. Pretty sure not made in China. I would have grabbed them also.