The Hypocrisy of Superman Hate | Goon Rants
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It’s crazy how a lot of people who hate Superman have never read a Superman comic.
Ok then recommend some
Hot take: best rogues gallery
@@Amaterasu77306we don’t need to do it for you. Just google “best Superman comics” and you’ll be met with a list. Pick one. Some good ones to start with are Birthright, For All Seasons, What’s so funny about truth justice and the American way?, and Up in the Sky.
@@Amaterasu77306 All Star Superman, Superman: A Man In The Sky, Kingdom Come, Doomsday Clock (Technically I guess), Batman Superman Public Enemies(Technically I guess)
You’d find that most people don’t read or watch the stuff they complain about. They just have a strong opinion of things shaped by other people.
Glad someone said it. I’m getting tired of Superman haters who will look at Batman, a _trillionaire_ who barely works at a company he inherited, owns weaponized satellites, expertly hacks _alien_ computers, parties with supermodels, and can beat down entire special ops teams…
…and call that “relatable”.
Of course, the people who say that he's relatable are either depressed and have social anxiety that way.
I like batman but he's barely relatable.
And here i am who really doesn't like the modern direction of Batman
@@JosephPao i mean those two things are relatable it may not be the average person but they are to a lot of people. I'd say the other stuff does killed that relativity tho
@@JosephPao I mean being depressed ain't good but I'm glad people can find someone to relate to while being in such a position
Easy to be hated on when you’re the greatest ever 🤷🏾♂️
Just because you think he’s the greatest doesn’t mean he universally is lol! Being the greatest is subjective
Ion know why these clowns disagree superman is the greatest most iconic superhero of fiction
@@predatorhunter3169 he isn’t but sure. People also say Spider-Man is the best superhero. Wow almost as if everyone has their own opinion on who’s the greatest, instead of being like people like you who gatekeep different opinions
@@angelgarcia4641 well concerning spider-man he was based on Supes
that's why he worked in a newspaper
@@predatorhunter3169 they dont read comics they just sit in a corner to cry and moan all day against facts 🤷🏾♂️
Screw the haters...🎉Happy Birthday to the undefeated G.O.A.T himself🎂Big Blue Supes!🥳
AMEN.
Superman is a boring Mary Sue and his fanboys are dog water.
Notice how they be bashing Superman but if Goku, Omni-Man, Batman, Spider-Man, Hulk, Saitama or Thor do the same type of feats they keep glazing the character?
They don’t hate Superman because he’s overpowered. They hate Superman first, so they call him overpowered.
He indeed overpower and that's make them salty over that 😂
The crazy thing is that most of the guys you mentioned wouldn’t exist without him or would be wildly different.
Fr and I'll argue most of them worst for example goku has kinda ruined so many animes trying to be like it and also birth the worst people on the planet. Powerscalers
@thegreatscribbles960
Oh please.
That's just silly.
@@thegreatscribbles960yeah if you only read shonen. I love dragon ball but you can step even just outside of Toriyamas other work and get a Gag manga in Dr.Slump, or hell The countless drama, Crime, Horror, all genres that can be adapted. Just so happens like action movies, action Shonen also happens to be the most popular. But that’s just looking as someone on the outside looking in. What do I know. I like dragon ball I can’t read. And I think Goku can Out fart Jesus.
Superman casually flies within a hyperspace in a realm beyond time and space. People hate it.
Kratos does it, they cheer lmao.
Thor does it, they cheer.
Captain Marvel does it they cheer.
@@kenb2671no they shit on her for doing it because they think she’s a Mary sue
@@michaelgarcia5680 they say the same with Superman, call him a Gary Stu, your point?
I do it, they cheer.
People can not like whatever they want but what pisses me off a little is that it isn't even consistent. The same people that will tell you he's boring because he's the most overpowered character in fiction will turn around fast to say he's not even that strong when it suits them. Like, which IS IT BRO?
The morality gets hypocritical too. People say Superman is the boring boy scout and would be better if he was evil and then glaze All Might or some other character for doing the same thing. It's like Aqua Man. Some people just don't like that stories but most just hate him because it's a meme.
Yeah I never understood the “he’s too OP argument”
Magic, Kryptonite and it’s variants, Red Solar Radiation, Electricity, Psychic Manipulation, etc can all physically harm him and he can’t see through Lead.
That means a good portion of the justice league or dc villains could hurt him potentially.
@@wesstewart2677Quite few Justice League Characters can Straight-up kill Kal-El as well.
@@UnexpectedWonder yeah. Aquaman could theoretically kill Superman no problem. I seriously have never understood this criticism
@@wesstewart2677 "Batman" Bruce Wayne murks Kal-El. "Flash" Barry Allen and Wally West drop Clark's Body. "Green Lanter" Hal Jordan and Modern John Stewart kill Superman. Black Adam kills him. Captain Atom dusts him. Plastic Man ends the Man of Steel. "Martian Manhunter" J'onn J'onzz offs the Last Son of Krypton. "Wonder Woman" Diana is on par with him and can kill him. "Captain Marvel"/"Shazam" Billy Batson is on par and kill him. "Aquaman" Arthur Curry is near Superman and murks him underwater. That just names some of the Justice League. I can get into Character like The Spectre, Doctor Fate, Phantom Stranger, "Hellblazer" John Constantine, and Swamp Thing as well.
@@UnexpectedWonder That's exactly what wess..'s point was.
Superman can kill quite a few JL members but the reverse is also tru. Outside of raw power, match-ups also make a difference.
That's why he said, ppl calling Superman OP is disingenuous. Kal has shown his vulnerability numerous times throughout the decades.
I used to hate superman with a passion for while, hes underappriciated.
He's not underappreciated he's like easily top 3 recognizable characters in comic.
@@darkhero352 Just because someone recognises you doesn't mean they appreciate you.
I recognise dog shit when I see it, but I certainly don't appreciate the sight (Not saying Superman is shit, this is just an example)
I used to find Superman boring because he'd always win easily blah blah blah, but then the legion of evil superman parodies (Omniguy, Houselander) started coming and I suddenly found new appreciation for Mr. blue.
For me, I hated superman for those same reasons and never understood him until a certain anime homage showed up, putting his best qualities an obvious display. Thanks All-Might.
@eldrideinherjar6711 The best thing for a Superman hater to do is go in a Superman binge. Animated shows, movies, and comics.
@@eldrideinherjar6711All Might carried MHA so hard for me that I slowly stopped watching after he retired
My PawPaw has been a fanboy for Superman since he was a kid for a reason💪🏾
The GOAT, the one and only, the man of steel himself, Superman. Only one thing I hated, what they did to his son Jon, I miss his adventures with Damian
The Hulk is probably my favorite character in fiction for a couple of reasons, he’s my favorite color, he’s a simple character that allows for complex stories, but above all I relate to his struggles of uncontrollable rage. Him being super strong is really just a bonus at this point. I also respect Superman even if he isn’t in my top five because of what he stands for.
I never used to like him but his villains were always some of my favorite characters of all time. You need a character that is that pure and powerful to have such interesting villains and stories. I wouldn't change him at all.
"It's a hero's birthright to win"
Jobbers and Goons
And This Is The Reason Why He Is The "GREATEST SUPERHERO" That Has Been Created. 💯💯
One of my recent reasons why i love Superman as of now, is that i seen bad people, assholes so often, i genuinely would be very grateful if someone who can destroy the planet with their pinky finger, doesn't. Superman is not boring because he's too kind (which is the usual argument.) But because we *need* kinder people, regardless of power. Superman is not really special (to me) because he is powerful, but because he is a mature, emphatic adult who just wants a normal life despite being basically a god. He's a hero because he just wants to help and make the world a better place.
I will ALWAYS defend Superman as a character. He actually does have very interesting stories in the comics that span across the universe. Superman traveling to other worlds, etc.
i’m right here w you bro 💯
Absolutely!!! I've typically defended him as well unless it's Son Goku slander.
Superman is a boring Mary Sue and his fanboys are dog water.
Superman is a boring Mary Sue and his fanboys are dog water.
I understand people not vibing with a character or not liking their stories but the argument of "he is boring cause he is so overpowered and always wins" is weird because that could apply to so many characters
Like most stories end with the protagonist winning and there are lots of characters that are overpowered by the standard of their universe but Supes is the only one i see people have a problem with
Also video came out on his in universe birthday February 29th
Many bad writers just don't want to be creative with a guy who isn't a complete hypocrite or a psychopath. What bugs me is that Superman haters STILL think they're different by claiming they hate Superman. They're the status quo now. You actually would be more original by unironically liking Superman.
Superman OFFICIAL Birthday is February 29,1936 because he was born in a Leap Year and his Birth Card is 9 of Clubs ♣♣♣♣♣♣♣♣♣Happy Birthday to Clark Kent aka SUPERMAN He was born 2 years before he made his OFFICIAL Debut in 1938 Blessings and Hugs 👑💜
he didn't exist in 1936 action comics 1 was in 1938
1938 isn't a Leap Year and if his Birthday is February 29,he would have been born in a Leap Year!
@@markherron1407 THAT DATE WAS GIVEN TO HIM IN 1978 ARBITRARILY I MIGHT ADD
PLUS IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE THERE ARE OTHERS INCLUDING THE PUBLICATION DATE OF ACTION COMICS 1
Superman gets hate because immature people conflate dark and gritty for being mature. They think Superman is an immature childhood fantasy, when Superman is actually the most mature hero, because he’s all about helping people and doing the right thing, not getting revenge, not killing the bad guys, just doing good, that’s it.
not every stories of him possessing the same characterization what do you mean
superman is just like other superheroes ,, there is no such things called maturity for superheroes becz the term superhero itself is illogical and immatured fantasy
@@user-gc3nk3mt3y Stories are stories, no matter how fantastical they still speak to something true about the human experience, different characters can embody different aspects of that experience. Superman represents an optimistic hope, altruism and the strength to smile and look towards brighter days even during the darkest of times. It’s not about the powers it’s about the people underneath who use them, and what they use those powers for. That’s a pretty mature and heavy exploration when done right. And it has been. But you’d already know that if you ever decided to pick up and read a Superman comic, but I digress.
The fact that superman can solve any problem with his fists, yet chooses not to most if ghe time, is why i like him.
Drip sauce: if an character so stronger, he can create they story it would be boring
Also dripsauce: gt goku is boundless
Ikr, has me hollering to this day
Doomguy is way more of a Gary Stu then Batman and Superman ever were yet you never see anyone go after him
Oh i'm absolutely done with the doomslayer Hype.
Maybe, but honestly compared to many sue and stu not unbearable.
He was meant to be a blank slate for the player to immerse themselves into originally
Kratos is the ultimate Gary stu
Superman haters hate Superman for how powerful he is but love One Punch Man, Omni Man, Sentry and every other Superman knockoff under the sun😂
Gen Z Sleeping on my mans because emo the world is dark get out of here Superman is my mans period....
lol funny you think people hate Superman because they are “emo” or “dark”, no bruh we just prefer better writing and characters with flaws, both which Superman lacks
@@angelgarcia4641 The same generation of people who enjoy Euphoria and Riverdale like good writing? Hilarious.
@@angelgarcia4641thanks for showing you have never read a Superman comic if you think that about Supes.
@@michaelgarcia5680 I have idiot. I’ve read all star, up in the sky, lost, silver age, pre crisis, rebirth, infinite frontiers, you name it, EVERY SINGLE ONE. All of his stories start and end the same way, because “he’s hope” and “he’s number one” it’s obnoxious and boring. If you like that kind of “writing” go ahead, but don’t be surprised when there’s people who have different opinions on Superman. Not everyone likes your precious alien boy who wears his underwear on the outside. With that mentality, you are just as bad as the Goku fans, if not worse.
@@The.Usurper how sheltered are you? I don’t even like those shows lol! You really are ignorant if you think everyone in this generation has no taste boomer
People hate Superman causes he “nOt rElaTeDaBLLLeee” they want something to relate to because Superman is to perfect of character. It also be the dragonball fans that hate Superman because he to strong and powerful but then turn around and say “goku solos”
I hate the not relatable argument. People look at an exemple to be followed and hate it because they dont want admit they could be better smh
An adopted farm kid who feels out of place in more ways than one with a complicated culture he'll never have a chance to full understand. I feel like there's a lot of things people can relate to here
@@GreaterGrievobeast55Are you talking about earth or krypton?
@@GreaterGrievobeast55
People can relate to millionaire more than dorky farmer-boy who try to help people around him while making sure he pay bills and rent on time 😂
@@tasiashiraori Superman can easily complete those mundane tasks, that’s where the lack of relatability starts
I never understood hating a character for being OP honestly. Like, I can't really give you a lot of fiction I consumed where I was ever under the belief the hero was going to lose/fail in the end. Like there is some, but there is not a lot, to be honest. Honestly, I prefer OP characters instead of weak characters the narrative bends over backward to justify them winning.
Ironic how Garth Ennis of all people understands Superman better than his haters
Not gonna lie, I'm actually curious what type of superman garth ennis would make, like an actual hero not something like homelander
Yet at the same time dislikes captain America, strange man indeed
@@basimali619 Ennis himself is an immigrant, make of that if you will
@@dunkanbulk14 his argument was that he is an insult to ww2 veterans, when he was, in fact, literally created by 2 of them
A Superman videogame would put him back on the map preferably a game not made by Rocksteady or written but Sweet Baby Inc.
Wym back on the map? He is the map
@@DocGoon On the mainstream, the default state of him is "that's a boring map" or "that last version of the map was lame or depressing"
He isn't getting the respect he deserves globally because the other media, movies andgames, don't respect him.
Either they turn him into a villain (Injustice, last "Rocksteady" game) or is simply bad (Snyderverse.)
@@DocGoon Maybe on the map is the wrong wording Superman needs just needs a jolt a stand alone big project per say for more casual fans to get excited about him again
@@denkerbosu3551 he is more recognized than Jesus globally and the most loved comic character lol
@denkerbosu3551 superman legacy seems to be changing that.
People hates Supes for being an OP guy who try to help people around him... But praise Goku for doing the same shit
Superman is Literally the Protagonist he's supposed to win I don't know how people forget this.
Yeah but he is not a god , he is just an alien who people see him as super strong god. He is not dr Manhattan, Lucifer
Maybe because of the amount of evil Supermen
I never hate on Superman because I can't think of a reason to! He is what we all should be and that's good and always doing something to help people! Superman is a hero who everyone should hang with because he gives good advice and wouldn't want anybody hurt or harmed! He would save anybody's life even if you're a bad guy! Even Lex Luther ends up showing respect for Superman because he knows he is the boat in being a superhero! How could anyone just hate Superman just because! Now Gambit does things to make somebody hate on him! Gambit is the opposite of Superman! Gambit thinks of himself,Superman thinks help others first,then take care of yourself
Not that’s not Gambit who is the opposite. It’s John Constantine, people think he’s really great strategist, but that’s just because he’s the biggest cheater. Batman will bend rules but he doesn’t brake them because still has a moral code. John Constantine this new problem killing innocent lives or acting cowardly to save his own skin. He sacrifice Zatannas father. Sold his soul twice to trick a two groups demons so it was even for a petty reason. Gambit isn’t pure of heart sure but he is still a good guy at the end of the day!
I think the hatred for Superman stems from a sour grapes mindset that grew in the minds of people growing up in the 70s and 80s. They looked at Superman and viewed themselves and the real world as lacking. This leads them to look for heroes who are viewed as the opposite of Superman. Heroes who are dark & brooding and/or fallible. Heroes who can be dragged through the mud (and come back up better than before but the current creatures seems to have forgotten that part). Heroes who can’t defeat their villains so easily. And because Superman doesn’t fit any of these criteria, they deemed him as boring, and then they preached it to the younger generations who then believe that he’s boring without understanding who he is.
Or people just prefer characters that are written better and have flaws, idk, seems to me your just coping with the fact not a lot of people want a perfect protagonist like Superman
@@angelgarcia4641 not coping, but rather looking back and observing the events that shaped American culture during my childhood in the 90s. And your comment actually proves my point. “A perfect protagonist like Superman”, and “Characters that are ‘written better’ and has flaws” are the type of language used by those who sees characters like Superman as unrealistic, which is a lie. When I look at Superman, I don’t see someone who’s perfect but an aspirational protagonist and a pinnacle standard of what humans should strive for.
@@teddyj9482 So modern day Jesus? Shit, we're really raising the bar on what qualifies as a decent human being these days huh.
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you."
- Green Goblin predicting Superman's future probably.
It's simply just that people hate a purely good character.. darkside is made to beat Superman. Nobody really hates him like they do superman.
Superman has beaten Darkseid more times than he has beaten Superman, what on earth do you mean? Superman is hope itself, yet another reason why people don’t like him, he’s the epitome of plot armor
I've slways liked superman, hes not my favorite ever, but hes always been up there.
But the worst hypocrits are dbz fans, all of gokus best feats are things superman did decades ago. And its only after goku reaches that level that thoses feats arent ridiculous or start making sense. (not all of them i love dbz but some of them are literaly insane)
I've found myself liking Superman, more & more, as I grew older. Understanding the philosophy of his struggles, just to be a good person. Ppl say how strong willed Batman is. This guy can do whatever the hell he wants, and every day, he chooses to restrain himself.
Hating on Superman is a character flaw. What does it say about you that you hate the character that represents the goodness in us all? Corny shit.
Literally Lex Luthor behavior, shit talk supes, hates that he is pure of heart, and is jealous that he is one of the most powerful beings in all of media
jealous ??????????????
lmfao superman was never one of the most powerful in all fiction
currently there are tons of anime verses which has more op broken characters than superman even many marvel charcters
now youre glazing
i agree that superman is underrated but also overrated in powerscaling and he is getting hated
@@user-gc3nk3mt3y dude he literally punched the DC universe so hard it rebooted the continuity and in recent times he one shotted a god and his multiverse that was as big as DC. Multiverse not multiple universes. Also I'm sure there are some anime characters that can beat supes but not many
@@msic-ou3yo pale feats compared to what hulk or thor achieved
@@user-gc3nk3mt3y no, I love hulk and thor but unless it's toba hulk or Odin force Thor supes is dar above them
@@msic-ou3yo nope litrally current base both stomps superman
I think it's just media makes a lot of his fights with anyone who isn't darkseid or doomsday too quick and boring and think that's how it's in the comics. But no, the average supe rogues and surprise villains can put him through the ropes too
If you Know/Understand what Superman REPRESENTS/STANDS FOR then it ALL makes SENSE.
I really really feel like people stand on the shoulder of this comic book giant and spit on him because they feel haughty yet without him they wouldn't have what they have now
I don't think it's the fact that he wins that bothers people. I think it's the fact that he really doesn't need to struggle in the physical aspect of things to get past what he's fighting.
Even That doesn't work in most cases because Superman is almost always against forces of nature and literal gods in his stories so he's almost always having to push himself to the limit to come out on top. Even then, Average humans who willingly square up against him are almost always packing kryptonite. The Dude still struggles physically.
Which doesn’t make sense because most of the people Superman fights are at his level or stronger, or if he’s fighting weaker people, they just exploit his weakness. People who make this assumption that your comment describes have never read Superman stories or watched any Superman cartoons or animated films. That argument is such a played out response and it’s only made out of pure ignorance and a refusal to acknowledge said ignorance. Can we PLEASE stop using it?! Like, y’all can’t sit here and complain he bulldozes past everything when some of his greatest opponents are rich people with no powers.
The fact that the face of superheroes is underappreciated hurts
I think the haters expose what they truly value by trashing Superman's goodness and care for humanity.
Its crazy how they hate Superman but still love the copies of Superman 😂😂😂 the hypocrisy is dilusional.
That just makes copies more interesting
I like superman and don't really have any problems with him, But I feel like the issue you didn't really touch on is that Superman has every power, like people like The Flash because of his speed or Hulk with his strength and power or Cyclops with laser eyes or whatever singular trait makes someone like a character.
Superman has all the abilities and is the strongest versions of said ability, that's what makes him overpowered.
His powerset is not that crazy. And i did talk about that so maybe you didnt finish this video.
@@DocGoon it….Is though? His punches can shatter DC’s cosmology, and he’s beaten and overcome concepts, took on and even won against gods like Darkseid who swat other characters like flies. His power set is very much the DEFINITION of crazy
@@angelgarcia4641 you just said hes strong.
That's just being strong lmfao. Not a powerset.
@@DocGoon it is, strength is a part of his powerset, same with heat vision, freeze breath, speed, etc.
@@angelgarcia4641 lmao
He's a pulp hero from the 30s of course he's gonna have a few weird powers and stories. Just wait till Goku turns 85 and see what he's up to.
Its funny how ppl hate superman but they forgot who started it all their hero wouldnt be here without him at the end of the day when its all said n done THE MAN OF STEEL is the king with Batman next to him.
I mean most people who hate sup's have never read a single good Superman comics
I like how some people hate on Superman and call him boring but then make it painfully clear they have never read a single one of his comics…
When I was a kid i thought Superman was boring because he was too much of a goody two shoes. Now, that's actually why i like him.
I'm glad someone actually said this because some of these people I know will say someone like a rich dude like batman is relatable or someone like homelander, a psychopath is relatable and sigma lol
But that's not the point the point is Superman is the living embodiment of hope in the universe. He is necessary.
Finally come full circle. great video and great growth bro.
I saw the jl animated series when i was kid, that's why i like all the characters, i never read a comic of dc, but that tv show made me love them.
This is what I mean. General audience really don’t understand Superman and have the weirdest takes I have ever seen. “Superman is a boring goody to shoes character and not a bad ass” and it’s like bruh supes has so many instances where he shown bad assery and yet he’s still the beacon of hope character that we love about him. It’s not just Superman it’s any character similar to Superman where these characters are these massive goody to shoes character(captain America, Optimus prime, all might, etc) all these guys are goody to shoes characters that people say are “boring” like bruhhh
Superman doesn’t even win that easy. Metallo fights and beats him pretty hard all the time, Zod gives him a good fight, lex Luther challenges him constantly, doomsday killed him, Parasyte puts him incredibly low, bizaro is adorable, etc.
Superman is my all time favorite superhero the hate he receives has never made sense to me i truly don’t understand why he’s hated he’s the most broken character and issa great personality all he wants to do is help others but like i always say: one day he’s hated the next he’s hated even more both days he was superman - THE FKN GOAT😤😤
I LOVE Justice League animated Superman because there's sauce to him. Now my modern impression is that yes sometimes he wins too easily and sometimes he JOBS to things he shouldn't be jobbing to. I honestly wish supes was a mentor/ last option character
Yeah superman is definitely someone I would wanna be in the future,growing up I i didn’t really like his powers but they grew in me.
You are right.powerscaling aside,I have always liked super man as a character in general.i mean why would you hate a noble and good guy like super man. This reminds of the time when some WWE fans despised John cena because he's a boy scout I have received both hate and respect from both sides myself.But as John always said "rise above hate".
i find that most people saying superman is a boring character devoid of challenges are people who have never actually read superman
I think Superman gets more hype and power than he really should have, but that's not really what drives my of dislike him. I don't think I've ever hated Superman either. I dislike him, but I think I've read too many Superman comic books, watched too many shows with Superman in them, to say I hate him. I watched the entire technicolor cartoon, and though I doubt I'll ever watch any of it a second time, if I HATED Superman I'd never have been able to get through it the first time.
I don't think his premise is that interesting, and it doesn't make sense in ways I personally just can't get past. To those who can, more power too them, butt the various colored suns, the various colored rocks, the comparisons to Sampson, Moses and Jesus, I can't sink my teeth into it. I think the Golden Age Superman, who was basically just John Carter in reverse, heavy gravity, jump good, was the best Superman and even Captain Marvel, Shazam, was more popular than Superman in the Golden Age of comic books. I reckon that because as wild and crazy as Billy Batson's stuff got, his premise was better thought out and more interesting than Superman's, or at least what Superman's premise became. Shazam asks us to accept magic, but magic can be whatever you want, just stay consistent once you establish what your magic is. Superman was asking us to accept the Sun was yellow, which doesn't even make sense in the story. Every power Captain Marvel had came with reasoning behind it. Superman just got abilities literally because a fan wrote in requesting he have it. Again, good for the fans, but I'm not among them. Captain Marvel was Superman done better, and I don't even like Shazam that much. In fact I think most of Superman's knockoffs are Superman done worse. Gladiator(Marvel), Homelander, Plutonian, Hyperion, I'll take plain old Superman thank you. I'll take many others over Superman though, including Wonder Woman, who is basically female Captain Marvel right down to the golden age tagline. That's not HATING Superman, it's just not caring for him. Admittedly, the golden age amazon super martial arts break the internal logic of universe just as much as "violet suns", but for whatever reason I can suspend my disbelief there. And for whatever reason DC actually has mostly moved away from that while doubling down on its bizarre take on visible light.
And I respect Superman, as much as I dislike him. He's basically a circus strong man in appearance, he reflects John Carter in origin, he's got two identities and a day job that ties them together. He's got a deep supporting cast and rogues gallery. He is distinctive, iconic. There is interesting stuff about him, I just can't get into it. I can't really sink my teeth into lantern corps(Alan Scott's...okay), or The Flash, or Batman or Teen Titans(Donna's cool, plot holes aside). I'm really not a DC guy overall, but even at Marvel, I really don't care for Thanos, Gwen Stacy, most Gwen Stacy clones or even Jack Kirby's signature creation, Galactus(and I think Kirby never intending Galactus to have a second appearance vindicates me). Still got into Ultimates where Galactus was a member of the team. Still watched Death Battle's Unicron versus Galactus. There's a gulf between not caring for a character and hating one.
Superman is a great character and has a lot of potential for story telling
My favourite comic characters
DC
Batman
Superman
Marvel
Spider-Man
Fantastic Four
I just wish people would at least try reading the comics before talking shit there's too many people who speak on comic books but don't know what they're talking about
I used to hate Superman but when i discovered alot of other popular characters like all might and Goku and Invincible , hell even Luffy isn't that different from him , they all inspire hope for a better day and for people to be better in the face hard times no matter what happens there's always a glimmer of hope even if the World is destroyed Life will find a way and we kinda need people to be a bit optimistic in these trying times because things won't get better being pestimistic.
People are realistic, not pessimistic. Also a fictional character isn’t going to fix the real world problems we have
@@angelgarcia4641 i know they won't but they can serve as inspiration or a warning that'll be ignored anyway and certain stories can change lives from the lessons learned.
The reason I say sometimes the message of work is often ignored is Wall-E and the entire message of that movie has been completely ignored and it is sad and it's mostly out of fear of being left behind when an AI fully comes alive and people don't raise it right
Some people are realistic but a lot of people I've met have given up or forgotten how to dream and some fiction reminds me to not stagnate and forget what I wanted
@@nicholasaugello2534 right…..show any leader who can fire nukes with a push of a button a Superman comic and all will be rainbows and cupcakes 😒
@@angelgarcia4641 not what I meant some people are incapable of change or don't even see what they do as wrong and that's human nature to some. It is pride.
People are probably just mad that their favorite character will never reach the level of world wide renown and cultural significance as Superman so they lash out by calling him boring and overpowered
I am sorrry but honestly I don’t really care if my fav character is popular cause Lucifer or dr Manhattan are not as popular than Superman but they still are well written
@@Peakfiction8613 so you're saying Superman isn't well written?
@@safe6278 he actually isn’t
@@angelgarcia4641 explain how
@@safe6278he’s written for a single purpose, and that’s to be 100% good, he’s incorruptible, he’s perfect, makes no mistakes, wins every fight, always saves the day. Then there’s the powers, where he’s unexplainably broken despite his powers being based off of photosynthesis from stars.
This character can be written well, but he rarely ever is written well. He’s just a powerhouse and a Gary Stu.
A lot of people that hate Superman only do because they wish they could be Superman, and I'm not talking about them wanting his powers, no i mean they wish they can have his strong character They wish they can have his kindness and he's courage and add to that all The Powers he has and how he never abuses it even though 90 percent people in his place probably would.
I watch many of your video before, but this is the one that earn subscribe from me. (Sorry for terrible grammar English is not my first language)
Definitely not a double standard of "he's too strong" when i can list dozens of anime characters with overpowered abilities but they're loved.. why are they forgiven? But Superman NAHHH op=boring. Here's the truth about the hate behind superman.. people "know" superman, as in they know the powers, his weakness AND THAT IS IT. No one goes into his stories, his rogues gallery, his struggles, no nothing. How can you judge a character so harshly when you dont even know the struggles within his stories😂
Most Superman fans need to see how there are so many underrated anime and manga Pluto , 20th century boys. All they see anime and manga all about fights when there are stories like perfect blue which delves with a character as pop idol dealing with their harsh things they have to face. Homoculus deals with homeless man who has ability to see and live through people problem and understand it.
Character from these two comics are far complex than any Superman comics. Akira is well written overpower character who has physcological issues.
when i first got into comics i didn’t like clark at all i thought he was boring and generic (i never read a superman comic), then i read all star superman and superman up in the sky and now he’s easily my top fictional character
Hulk is my fav...alongside Thor and Superman and Batman
This video is very relatable to me. For years I expressed that I didn’t like Superman. Then about 6-7yrs ago I started reading some his stories and I’ll admit it made me realize I actually didn’t have a good reason to dislike Superman. I’m not a mega fan or anything but I have wayy more respect for the Man of Steel now versus when I was younger
If superman is real person, I be 100% glad and thank God Superman is a boyscout.
As a Superman fan, I'm cool with people not liking the character. But their reasoning for hating the character is often very hypocritical.
I love your content man! Keep highlighting all the goons and jobbers! And let people put some respect on Big Supes name.
Personality supes has never been my favorite hero but i definitely respect and im sure there are characters that are bigger gary stus than superman ever was
This is literally my arguement to superman copies put in one video. Outstanding work you made my day. 😅
All I'm going to say is it's the biggest Superman haters that are the biggest fans of his cheap knockoffs like sentry all might one punch man I can go on and on sentry literally is a copy of Superman down to all the powers Superman has had over the years and the silver age
I’d rather watch the first Superhero…with actual powers, do incredibly powerful things than a dude in a bat costume doing just as amazing things simply because of his popularity.
People bash Superman for the same reasons that people bash the Doctor from Doctor Who (too overpowered, almost always wins, goodytwoshoes, “boring because they always try to be a pacifist”) so Superman fans definitely have my respect.
I fuggin love you brother, I have had multiple arguments with people over Superman and just straight up stating facts, wether its online or in person and there are a lot of hypocritical fanboys out there. I swear to god imma send them this in the future this video is important asf to understanding Clark over here and just characters in general. Much love dood I will be dropping the link to this video in threads for years to come ❤
man i can’t tell you assa HUGE superman fan from day 1 how many arguments i’ve gotten into w superman haters 🤦🏽♂️ like even Dr. Manhattan fears him … like that’s enough in itself 💯 superman will forever be the goat imo
not many people willingly will admit their faults so respect
Agreed. Superman will always be my favorite character of all time. Happy Birthday to the Goat. 🙏🥳
Ok I think you should do both a rant and explain on your channel cuz of the information gathering and the fact that you realllly like comics(unlike Hollywood)keep up the great content(speedi314,always a fan of "yfv"
My favs are Lucifer Morningstar lobo joker invincible spawn and the mask I’m all over the place 🤣
He still better then batman
My favorite comic book characters are hulk thor Spiderman superman
"you mean having the three of us patrol it" may be the most wholesome thing i've read in my life
Imagine hating a guy who wants to help everyone.🤣🦸♂️
Imagine liking a guy that wins every single fight and is fundamentally plain
@@angelgarcia4641 hey man just off fun name your character and we'll see how much more complex he is compared to Superman
@@safe6278 alright then, Guts from berserk, thorfinn from Vinland saga, punisher from marvel, John Liebert from monster and lelouch from code geass
Explain how Superman is more complex than these characters, go ahead, I can wait but if you can’t then my point still stands
@@safe6278 oh and Arthur Morgan from red dead redemption 2, AND Thomas Shelby from Peaky Blinders, these protagonists are also complex and some of my favorites
@@angelgarcia4641 I'd don't have much knowledge about the other two characters but based on the fact that you also included guts and Frank Castle in your selection it shouldn't be too hard
Hell if we simply take a look at Superman's origin story we learn that he started off as an infant born into a dying planet who's parents made the ultimate sacrifice just so he could have a shot at life, who was sent out into space as the last hope of a dead planet and crash landed on earth as a lost orphan with nothing to his name but through an act of kindness was adopted by a kindly old couple who even though they stood to gain nothing by helping him, helped him nonetheless and gave him the best upbringing he could ever ask for and instilled him with strong sense of moral virtue simply because they saw a child in need
Goku is my fave character, just behind Kiss Shot
I think power scaling people just get frustrated at hearing “he wins because he’s Superman, that’s why!”
He’s really cool though! Theres a reason why he’s such an icon!
The superman vs the elites movie changed my whole perspective on superman I used to be a huge hater before I saw that movie and that movie got me into his comics he is a goat I appreciate him and respect him for what he is the grandfather of all of super hero fiction
That is the reason I hate him
@@brandonfitzgerald-eo3tk bit of a weird reason
@@eazy__peezy7759 Not really. I like anti-heroes who kill the villains sometimes and I don't like heroes who have no-kill rule who force it on others. It feels very one-sided. There are characters who do kill and still have a high morality. Wonder woman it's the example i'm using
@@brandonfitzgerald-eo3tk ahhh okay i understand now I thought you were saying you didn't like him because he's the og hero my bad yeah no anti heros are definitely some of the most interesting archetypes for heros
@@eazy__peezy7759 I kind of already knew you to agree with me. I saw that god of war youtube Picture.👍
I'll say this as an oversimplification: a lot of people don't like that Superman is as Lawful Good as he is. They, however, miss the point because every time Superman alludes to "truth, justice, and the American Way" he's saying his version of "with great power comes great responsibility." If they think he's corny or old fashioned or too good, then Spider-man fits that bill too. It's kind of funny how they both have an arc where they deal with being who they are, end up in a black suit, and then have to contend with fake versions of themselves. Venom with Spider-man and clones of Superman after he's thought to be dead. At worst, you can call Superman too nice, but that's part of the point of Superman.
This was a great video, no i personal still dont really superman all that much but i respect people who do love him. Cant really find those kinds of people nowadays.
They’re mad because he’s the GOAT
I used to be a Superman hater, especially when Injustice was released, was a Batman fan through and through (still am i spose). But when Rebirth happened with the release of Action comics and Superman #1, my god i was hooked. Been catching up since, an absolute shame Michael Bendis did.
what does an elsworld story has to with main continuity Superman do you people understand the term elsworlds or not
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Great video. Superman is that GUY. He is HIM. Love the support for DC's GREATEST HERO!!