Why Spinosaurus Is The Most CONTROVERSIAL Dinosaur Of All Time

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  • @MarioUcomics
    @MarioUcomics Před rokem +883

    Spinomania is runnin wild brother

    • @aebhosor4835
      @aebhosor4835 Před rokem +27

      Spinomania was so intense that whenever girls see Spinosaurus, they freak out. Like, Spinosaurus doesn't need to do anything, as long as it shows itself to the public...

    • @cowboyquebecanimations3068
      @cowboyquebecanimations3068 Před rokem +32

      Don't forget the Rowdy Roddy Raptor

    • @justincameron9661
      @justincameron9661 Před rokem +12

      Mach man Mosusaur

    • @fredovxz
      @fredovxz Před rokem +9

      I’m totally making a SpinoMania shirt now! 😂

    • @iceheart974
      @iceheart974 Před rokem

      *SPINO 3 : 16 SAYS I JUST WHOPPED YOUR ASS!*

  • @Venator94
    @Venator94 Před rokem +375

    1910's: Spinosaurus was a big, weird carnivorous dinosaur with a sail on its back.
    2001: Spinosaurus was a chiropractor.
    2005: Spinosaurus was 16-18 meters long.
    2014: Spinosaurus was a midget.
    2015: Spinosaurus was possibly quadrupedal.
    2017: Spinosaurus was not quadrupedal.
    2020: Spinosaurus had a newt-like tail.
    2021: Spinosaurus possibly hunted like a heron.
    2022: Spinosaurus could dive deep.
    Late 2022: Spinosaurus couldn't dive deep.
    2024: Spinosaurus could swim on land and walk in water.
    2027: Spinosaurus had wings, and was therefore able to fly.
    2029: Spinosaurus's wings were not for flying, they were just a display feature.
    2030: Spinosaurus COULD fly, but not because of its wings.
    2031: Spinosaurus could only fly vertically.
    2039: Spinosaurus could shoot laser beams. From its cloaca.
    2056: Spinosaurus could sing and write in a perfect English.
    2083: Spinosaurus sent a spaceship into orbit that fell back on Earth with a message. Scientists are trying to decipher it.
    2144: Scientists finally decrypted the message. Spinosaurus are not extinct and they are coming to take Earth back.
    2300: This is not a war any more than a war between men and ants. This is an extermination.

    • @jwdominionpyroraptor4775
      @jwdominionpyroraptor4775 Před rokem +22

      Here is a more accurate one:
      1935:Allosaurus with sail
      1985:Midget
      2001:T.rex killing monster that is 18 meters and 21 tons
      2009:Monsters fucking resurrected
      2012:16 meters long, pretty unique
      2014:Quadreped lol
      2017:Not a quadreped
      2018:not aquatic
      2020:tadpole tail and semi aquatic
      2022:hunted like a heron

    • @TaurusSaurus
      @TaurusSaurus Před rokem +1

      @@jwdominionpyroraptor4775 2020 it was aquatic

    • @monkeyasaurus732
      @monkeyasaurus732 Před rokem +2

      ware ofe thee worlde referencee

    • @xeji4348
      @xeji4348 Před rokem +1

      Thank you for the spoilers 4 21 23

    • @Hazard-xv7vn
      @Hazard-xv7vn Před rokem +1

      @Venatorable thank you for this comment you are a legend

  • @anom2619
    @anom2619 Před rokem +728

    All you NEED to know about the Spinosaurus:
    -Was big
    -Ate fish
    -Had a sail

  • @brockschannel3927
    @brockschannel3927 Před rokem +721

    Spinosaurus is a lovecraftian being that we humans falsely perceive as a dinosaur. It's true form cannot be defined or described. From a t Rex with a sail to a giant whale to to a crocodile dimetrodon hybrid. It's insanity to truly uncover this beast!

    • @MorgothZEone
      @MorgothZEone Před rokem +31

      If he isn’t a boss in Bloodborne 2 i will be sad

    • @NationChosenByGod
      @NationChosenByGod Před rokem +18

      It is an elusive creature indeed. It is so elusive that this thing can shapeshift.

    • @davidsheckler4450
      @davidsheckler4450 Před rokem

      No...not "we" Mr Indoctrinated Sheeple...YOU...you Sheeple believe this

    • @davidsheckler4450
      @davidsheckler4450 Před rokem +1

      @@NationChosenByGod Prove it? Do you have ANY ACTUAL FOOTAGE 🤔🤷🤦

    • @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457
      @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457 Před rokem +4

      ​@@davidsheckler4450 Face palm is for you for taking the words seriously.

  • @juleswoodbury58
    @juleswoodbury58 Před rokem +85

    The real problem when it comes to the paleontology of big carnivores, is that they imagine them in cage matches against other big carnivores, when in reality they probably only ate smaller vertebrates and avoided other big carnivores.

    • @LG22475
      @LG22475 Před rokem +20

      This exactly! I'm sick of people thinking that all large carnivores did was pick fights with one another. Just look at modern day animals and it becomes quite clear that most species tend to avoid unnecessary fights because the risk often is greater than the reward.

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero Před rokem +3

      They did not likely have to contend with territory... but probably with their own kind. Same as modern day predators. They compete with each other, not against others. Besides that, many dinos lived in completely different eras. Often the time between us and the last dinos was far shorter than the time between when 2 predator dino species lived.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 Před rokem +2

      mostly carcasses as well...idk about avoiding others,the fossils show combat wounds in various theropods..sometimes from other theropods ..one report in particular mentions cannibalism in t rex..and hypothesized that they did fight over carcasses ....

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 Před rokem +1

      @@LG22475 but its not unheard of entirety in the fossil record...plenty of theropod fossils show various injuries by other theropods and its not far fetched to say they did fight...

    • @pierre-samuelroux9364
      @pierre-samuelroux9364 Před rokem +1

      ​@@jackstraw4222ok Jack horner scavenger thing is debunked by now you should know it

  • @thehulkster17smash34
    @thehulkster17smash34 Před rokem +241

    The Spinosaurus has always been one of my favorite carnivorous dinosaurs, even before I watched Jurassic Park 3 when I was little.

    • @GangsterGringo
      @GangsterGringo Před rokem +12

      yes yesss just yesss man mine too dont get why ppl ever hated it

    • @groudonor12
      @groudonor12 Před rokem +15

      ​@@GangsterGringo most dinosaur fans are REX SIMPS

    • @thehulkster17smash34
      @thehulkster17smash34 Před rokem +6

      @@groudonor12 T-Rex has and always will be my all-time favorite Dinosaur.

    • @loneokami6560
      @loneokami6560 Před rokem +3

      ​@@GangsterGringocause it is an glorified fish eater lol, Carnos and Allo are cooler

    • @groudonor12
      @groudonor12 Před rokem +7

      @@thehulkster17smash34 see exactly. Point proven.. rex is sooooo boring now, it used to be so cool but now he's just so boring

  • @EBLazerRex
    @EBLazerRex Před rokem +190

    Spinosaurus is the "jack of all trades, master of none" in the paleontology world. Watching scientists, and paleo-enthusiasts, fight each other over what its skeletal morphology, and its ecology, was like has become a spectacle. When it comes to JP/JW, the animal went from being the king of the theropods in JP3 to being stuck on an island that no one cares about in a TV show. That's... pathetic. I think nowadays that it should have appeared in Dominion. Heck, it should've joined Rexy in fighting the Giga at the end of the film. I think Spinosaurus needs a lot of love, both in paleontology (I know that's going to be hard, but keep hope alive for more fossils so we can gain more facts about it) and in paleo-media. That's something coming from a guy that grew up hating on the animal thanks to JP3. 🤣

    • @nono9543
      @nono9543 Před rokem +12

      I always believed Spino was the opposite in terms of out it operated in its ecosystem. An extremely niche predator.

    • @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
      @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 Před rokem +5

      Being in a tv show no one cares about sums that up well.

    • @WRATH_69
      @WRATH_69 Před rokem

      Spino is a villain

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Před rokem +3

      If the Spinosaurus saw Camp Cretaceous, he would probably be saying "They can't keep getting away with this."

    • @ChimpScape
      @ChimpScape Před rokem

      Wait..what? A semi-aquatic creature was stranded on an island? I would like to know more of the context but I can't stand the Jurassic World movies

  • @Betuor
    @Betuor Před rokem +108

    I'm waiting on the study to try and convince me it doesn't have a sail.
    Also, I love watching those videos going over the evolution of the Spino. Most of those for other dinos are fairly gradual with minimal changes, but the Spino changes so much so quickly. I also love how often they have to update the videos with a new form.

    • @garethscott8888
      @garethscott8888 Před rokem +14

      maybe the sail was actually underneath it like from a boat lol

    • @azhdarchidae66
      @azhdarchidae66 Před rokem +7

      @@garethscott8888 now im imagining upside down swimmimg spinosaurus

    • @Kaegrowl
      @Kaegrowl Před rokem +1

      FUN BIT - it could have been a hump! Modern day animals with similar (but less impressive) large vertebrae include Rhinoceros and American Bison. In these animals, the vertebrae support a large group of muscles in the neck and shoulders for swinging their big heavy heads around, and so look like shoulder humps with the skin on. They're not proportionally as big as the Spinos, of course, but the boy could have been rotund like a goddamn hippo. I don't know if the spines have indication of muscle attachment, but it's something that -could- be! Love this enigma of a theropod.

  • @Ulquiorra4163
    @Ulquiorra4163 Před rokem +109

    Couldn't stop laughing at the wrestling bits, you mad man. I also noticed all those changes over the years, how it's possibly the most changed dinosaur since the early days of paleontology to the point that when JP3 came out, I'd found an old kids book about it (it was pathetically thin) with it on all fours, then Warpath and it's two-legged version, THEN JP3s in the same day. Wild how things changed in our life time. Also, the various paleontologists need to be locked in a room to fight it out, last one standing gets the win cause unless we find a way to clone a spino, it's never getting settled.

  • @TheJmall88
    @TheJmall88 Před rokem +291

    I hope we get to see The Spinosaurs in a future Jurassic movie. I would also like to see it do something other than fighting a Tyrannosaurus rex

    • @dinosaurfan2409
      @dinosaurfan2409 Před rokem +19

      Agreed! I was really hoping to have seen one in Dominion.

    • @TheJmall88
      @TheJmall88 Před rokem +2

      @@dinosaurfan2409 me too

    • @TimeMakerMan
      @TimeMakerMan Před rokem +8

      I want spino to beat rex again

    • @freddieb3537
      @freddieb3537 Před rokem +8

      In fairness it did eat a phone and show up unheard with phone ringing in its stomach. It also fought a boat.

    • @futureisyours3016
      @futureisyours3016 Před rokem +3

      Iike genetically modified to talk and play cards. That would be great.

  • @The-Black-Death
    @The-Black-Death Před rokem +28

    My biggest problem with modern Spinosaurus is the odd-shaped spine that looks broken. How many "Spinosaur spines" have they discovered that are like this exactly? o-O

  • @wantedwario2621
    @wantedwario2621 Před rokem +19

    The thing I love about paleontology is that everything that doesn't have an obvious use (or has an obvious use that's being refuted) the feature in question is dismissed as a display structure. Its like how in archaeology, anything that looks weird is labeled as an object of ritual purposes. Basically, its just a way of saying "I have no idea what it is" without sounding dumb.

  • @Jose_Lopez08
    @Jose_Lopez08 Před rokem +36

    Spinosaurus is indeed controversial from what it might look like to what type of diet it had in my opinion I wouldn't be surprise if the appearance of it in paleontology changes again within the next century.

  • @kloveda5
    @kloveda5 Před rokem +37

    As per the JP3 Spineo as a kid I felt like it was a Frankenstein. The promo material had green eyes like it had night vision and it seemed WAY too strong and smart. Kinda like instead of splicing other reptiles DNA to finish the code they just used already fished Rex and Raptor DNA to make everything faster in the lab. This could easily explain why the Spineo was so protective of its territory and seemingly wanted revenge.

    • @azurumishinji1697
      @azurumishinji1697 Před 7 měsíci +1

      There was a deleted scene in JP3. The 2 guys with guns, killed a baby Spino. So the mother chases them the entire movie for revenge.
      I have no idea why they removed such a vital part of the story.

  • @herrerasaurstudios7028
    @herrerasaurstudios7028 Před rokem +90

    It may change designs and behaviors constantly, but I'll always love this dinosaur to death.

  • @joshuariddensdale2126
    @joshuariddensdale2126 Před rokem +27

    In one of your old videos, you talked about the Game Boy Advance tie-in game Island Attack. I had that game as a kid, and also beat it several times. The Spino's motivation for chasing you is still left unresolved like in the movie.

    • @meti326
      @meti326 Před rokem +6

      In the Movie when the Plane started to fly they cut a piece of Spinos Sail thats why he chased them

  • @marloweandreyko1211
    @marloweandreyko1211 Před rokem +16

    Nice vid that got me thinking.
    My two cents about factors we should keep in mind for dinosaurs as a clade:
    1. the amount of time they had to diversify
    2. how much closely related animals today differ in lifestyle and physiology
    3. how incomplete the fossil record is (i.e. absence of transitional forms and how much weirder dinosaurs likely await to be found)
    4. how much of dinosaur physiology / behaviour is still conjecture
    Having said that, I think we should remain open-minded about the POSSIBILITY of semi-aquatic, fully aquatic (of course we’d need evidence) and fully feathered dinosaurs.
    Speaking to the latter, and given the unlikelihood of such integument being preserved at all, there seems plenty of time and diversity for dinosaurs to have had developed soft parts completely novel to scientific observation.
    In any case, and IMO, the Spino controversy speaks to the fact we’re living through a palaeontological golden age.

    • @rodrigopinto6676
      @rodrigopinto6676 Před rokem +1

      The spinosausus was not “aquatic”

    • @TaurusSaurus
      @TaurusSaurus Před rokem +4

      @@rodrigopinto6676 it’s definitely possible. The only way Paul managed to make it preform so poorly was by decreasing the bone density to 0.83 (which is lower then other theropods) and increasing the musculature of the tail to the point it was no longer flexible. Besides it seems Nizar found a new specimen.

  • @rhuman8672
    @rhuman8672 Před rokem +8

    If giant dinosaurs were so disadvantaged by their size, how were they so successful and around for so long. I never understand why people put that theory out to there

  • @Jack-Schneider
    @Jack-Schneider Před rokem +10

    You forgot to mention one of the biggest controversial statements by some paleontologists. The fact that they concluded with limited to no data that other theropods/genus like Spinosaurus Moroccanus, Sigilmassasaurus, Spinosaurus B and now Oxalaia are all synonymous with Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus. That's just too bold of an hypothesis. Nevertheless, it's new anatomy has been criticized and paleontologists are just not sure anymore especially with the reduced hind legs which seems to bring up more questions than answers.
    The bone density study you mentioned from 2022 by Matteo Fabbri had Baryonyx with a similar bone density (0.87) to Spinosaurus (0.97) and Baryonyx had much longer hind legs. We also don't know the growth cycle of Spinosaurus fossils or any indication that it's limbs stopped growing. Nizar Ibrahim and Sereno simply guess worked and scaled up the neotype to a larger rostrum piece. That leaves a large room for marginal errors. Honestly, it would make a lot more sense to revert back to the original anatomy of Spinosaurus until further material is found in Egypt where Stromer first discovered it in 1915. I'm studying marine/semi aquatic mammals and they do have high bone density but have no issues venturing out on land to eat despite their bulk. Polar Bears are a great example of this and Spinosaurus bests fits this. An apex predator that switched between land and river in it's highly competitive ecosystem. One thing is certain, it's bones very dense and they were really big (bulky and currently the largest land carnivore)

    • @KlaytonFioriti
      @KlaytonFioriti  Před rokem +1

      Wait they did that?! I didn’t hear about that at all! Why would they group all of those into the same Spinosaur group! That’s insane!

    • @Jack-Schneider
      @Jack-Schneider Před rokem +3

      ​@@KlaytonFioriti Yeah it's kinda ridiculous. It was first brought up in the 2014 paper which got criticized by Scott Hartman, Mark Witton, John Hutchinson, Ever S.W etc. Then in 2020, the South American theropod Oxalaia was considered a part of Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus by Nizar's team. Needless to say, scaling up different fossils from different locations and of different size (some even from the Moroccan Black Market) will result in a inaccurate/chimera like creature. That's what I, many of my colleagues believe and professors believe. Spinosaurus really should just revert back to it's previous depiction (using Baryonyx as a means of scaling) until further materials are found. With the recent bone density for Baryonyx being similar to Spinosaurus, it would make a lot more sense. Hope this helps!

    • @rodrigopinto6676
      @rodrigopinto6676 Před rokem +1

      @@Jack-Schneider totally wrong the Tyrannosaurus rex is the biggest or largest.

    • @rodrigopinto6676
      @rodrigopinto6676 Před rokem +1

      @@Jack-Schneider “dense bones”are LIMITED

    • @rodrigopinto6676
      @rodrigopinto6676 Před rokem +1

      @@Jack-Schneider you are just MISINFORMED

  • @ethanpripilitsky4595
    @ethanpripilitsky4595 Před rokem +22

    Even if it's inaccurate I love the JP3 design

  • @rhedosaurus2251
    @rhedosaurus2251 Před rokem +13

    Paleotologist: Will the real Spinosaurus stand up and say 'Here'?
    7 versions of Spinosaurus: HERE!
    Paleotologist: I give up.

  • @TheRussian13
    @TheRussian13 Před rokem +18

    I've always loved the spinosaurus, especially how it was portrayed in JP3. Even if it's not an accurate representation of the real dinosaur, it still looks amazing to this day. Which is the most underrated part of JP3, the effects are better than most of the JP/JW movies. I would like for paleontologists to definitely discover what the spinosaurus truly looked like in my lifetime.

    • @thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003
      @thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 Před rokem

      Absolutely they even have a video JP3 making of the spino and even said to this day the spino animatronic of JP3 is the most biggest and most difficult and biggest project Jurassic part team has ever made for the franchise to this day not even the T rex was this difficult and heaviest
      It speaks volumes right there and seeing the actual big prop of the spino iam like daaamn no wonder LOOK AT THAT ACTULE THING!!!!!

    • @idiot_city5444
      @idiot_city5444 Před rokem

      Nothing in 3 looks better than anything from JP or lost world, lol

  • @MetaFanWing
    @MetaFanWing Před rokem +22

    Great video Klayton! The Spino has been a favorite since I was little, and it’s kinda sad to watch it constantly be redesigned. I wish they would just focus on getting all the information they can before making a judgement. I love both the JPIII and short-legged, M-sailed, S-necked, paddle-tailed versions, and they just go to show how unique the Spino really is.
    On a completely different note, Klayton, I’m writing a story: a retelling of Jurassic World from the point-of-view of the dinosaurs. Not everything is the same, however, and while it is based on JW, there are many creative liberties taken to incorporate lore from the films, novels, the show, and even many of the games, like Trespasser and JP:tG. Mysteries and plot twists await.
    It’s more of an anthology series than a single novel, each chapter is its own story. The first chapter is fully written and revised, and the second is well underway.
    The reason for my bringing this up is because you know Jurassic Park better than anyone I know, and I’d like for you to read it and give me feedback if it interests you, maybe even collaborate on future chapters, since I have plans for Dominion and beyond. If you want to read it, just let me know, I’m really excited to share it with you!
    I’ll continue my work on Jurassic World: /Terrible Lizards,/ and until then, take it easy.

    • @MetaFanWing
      @MetaFanWing Před rokem +3

      If you’re interested, I can send you a short 1 1/2 page prologue I wrote to sort of gauge your interest, how does that sound?

    • @pierre-samuelroux9364
      @pierre-samuelroux9364 Před rokem

      Alteori made some videos like this,with pov of buck,the baby rex,Blue and Delta

  • @andresdeleon5160
    @andresdeleon5160 Před rokem +16

    That is all interesting, in fact I still love spinosaurus no matter how different it is either in real life or in form of media such as the Jurassic franchise and prehistoric planet.

  • @LeoTheYuty
    @LeoTheYuty Před rokem +135

    Love the spinosaurus so much. Such a fascinating animal in real life, and while less interesting in Jurassic Park, being a literal t.rex-hunting kaiju is still pretty damn cool.

  • @brendandulaca3147
    @brendandulaca3147 Před rokem +12

    No matter how controversial this dinosaur is, Spinosaurus is still one of my favorites.
    That being said...... T-Rex still Rules!!!

  • @Gaming2DMX
    @Gaming2DMX Před rokem +28

    We all know why it is, without even watching the video

  • @redx3816
    @redx3816 Před rokem +19

    Spinosaurus was my favorite dinosaur in Jurassic park 3 when I first saw it like it was the first dinosaur to take down a t-rex when I first saw it as a child i was shock and scared of this thing

  • @Jurassic_Gojira
    @Jurassic_Gojira Před rokem +5

    It's an amalgamation of different fossils and sizes. At this point, it is better to have Spinosaurus similarly to other bipedal relatives like Baryonyx. Would answer a lot of questions.

    • @IndominusRex-wc1ey
      @IndominusRex-wc1ey Před rokem +1

      Not in the slightest LMAO. The only fossils we dont have of spinosaurus that dont paint a clear picture of what the animal looked like would be its ribs and arms, thats it. All other fossils we have of it are attributed to Spinosaurus aegyptiacus, not anything else. Scientists just don't make mistakes like Brontosaurus excelsus (who is back btw) anymore. We have far more tech than we did 100, even just 20 years ago

    • @Jurassic_Gojira
      @Jurassic_Gojira Před rokem +2

      @@IndominusRex-wc1ey That's wrong. Making Oxalaia, Sigilmassasaurus, Spinosaurus B and Spinosaurus Maracanus synonymous has been debated among paleontologists since the 2014 reconstruction. The margin of error is just too big to not notice. They used the neotype (a subadult from a different location) and scaled it to what they think would make an adult size with different fossils and sizes.
      Scientists will always keep making mistakes because something new will always make changes.

  • @502nickster
    @502nickster Před rokem +3

    This is like the Cold War between paleontologists. One side says Spino is like this, the other side says Spino is like that.
    Both sides trying to prove each other wrong and Spino is caught in the middle.
    Like the bone wars of our time.

  • @Mikethekingboss
    @Mikethekingboss Před rokem +35

    I hope we get to see the spino in a future movie

    • @Reitiranossaurobanguela
      @Reitiranossaurobanguela Před rokem +3

      Hope too

    • @redx3816
      @redx3816 Před rokem +3

      Yeah

    • @solidSnake4580
      @solidSnake4580 Před rokem

      And finally get defeated by T. rex.

    • @Black_Wolf1357
      @Black_Wolf1357 Před rokem +2

      ​@@solidSnake4580it already got defeated in CC.

    • @solidSnake4580
      @solidSnake4580 Před rokem

      @@Black_Wolf1357 CC doesn’t count. I don’t consider that show canon and most people want a death battle where Spino doesn’t get off easy.

  • @ali___________7303
    @ali___________7303 Před rokem +8

    I think it is a crocodile that prefers to live on the coasts, but it has the ability of feet, muscles and hugeness that make it move away from the coast and move comfortably for a long distance without worrying

  • @TheHallow31
    @TheHallow31 Před rokem +10

    Spinosaurus might be one of the most controversial dinosaurs of all time. But can it see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

  • @aresnir2725
    @aresnir2725 Před rokem +2

    I like how Spinosaur looks in Jurassic Park 3. Modern incarnations with tiny legs look worse in my opinion.

  • @devinitalkyon
    @devinitalkyon Před rokem +6

    As some one who "ran in those circles" and even was bit pretentious of paleontology and depictions, you hit the nail on the head. I've always seen the paleontology field as comparable to a bunch of kids in a big sandbox arguing over what was dug up. Highly charged and emotional, taking great deal of fun out of the whole thing and taking the whole matter WAY too seriously. And the only remedy, which you good sir seem to have found, is rediscovering or keeping the childlike wonder and love of it and not caring too much about all over the top sciencey side. After all, most of this is for fun so why not focus on. You know, within reason.

  • @DwarfDaddy
    @DwarfDaddy Před rokem +3

    The Spino hole is something I never thought I’d get obsessed about but it is fascinating

  • @DarkAquaVII
    @DarkAquaVII Před rokem +5

    The spinosaurus has always been my favorite. It came more of a favorite of mine in adult years, because it's just frustrating, annoying and it's forever changing, that's why it makes it even more FASCINATING!

  • @jdpragmatic8644
    @jdpragmatic8644 Před rokem +3

    Ever since I first saw JP3, Spino is still my favorite dinosaur. And it stays my favorite simply because we cannot make up our minds about it.

  • @fatnakedjimmyneutron
    @fatnakedjimmyneutron Před rokem +5

    Paleontologists need to calm down. The Jurassic franchise isn't about being scientifically accurate. It's about cool movie dinosaurs killing each other and killing humans for our entertainment.

  • @ArtbyAP
    @ArtbyAP Před rokem +18

    Love the more paleo oriented content. Keep it up brother. God Bless!

  • @DraggorLecanth
    @DraggorLecanth Před rokem +17

    I seriously think all of the paleontologists are right on many of their points. They just can't get over the idea that someone has to be wrong instead of looking at the collective data and saying, "Hmm, maybe we're all correct and we should collaborate to fine tune these ideas."
    Nope. I'm right. You're wrong. My team is better than your team 😓

    • @karonuva
      @karonuva Před rokem +11

      Paleo definitely has a lot of know-it-alls who care more about being Right than actually being curious on how an animal looked and behaved. You'll have both educated folk and complete shmucks in comments acting as if they've got actual footage to back up their claims, it's frustrating. I feel like if any dinosaur should be a good example to humble people and show how little we know, it should be Spinosaurus.

    • @sadsworth4605
      @sadsworth4605 Před rokem +1

      My comment is better than yours 😡

  • @tristanwilliams4180
    @tristanwilliams4180 Před rokem +6

    JP3 Spinosaurus looks more fun then today

    • @MorgothZEone
      @MorgothZEone Před rokem +1

      Looks boring to me, just a Baryonyx with a sail

  • @LBTElectricDinoOnline
    @LBTElectricDinoOnline Před rokem +4

    Great video Klayton Fioriti and I pretty much agree that Spinosaurus is one of the most controversial dinosaurs in the franchise and great analyzing of the Spinosaurus in the franchise.
    Great work and as always, Take It Easy.

  • @rickylahey657
    @rickylahey657 Před rokem +1

    Spino is just so cool, a walking croc with a sail is just too badass. Claws and usable arms, big tail. Just so cool

  • @kevinquinonez838
    @kevinquinonez838 Před rokem +5

    Baryonyx and Suchomimus: Why can't you be just like your family?

  • @alang.bandala8863
    @alang.bandala8863 Před rokem +8

    The funny thing about all this is that his skeleton is so incomprehensible that they are even proposing that we may have put it together wrong.

  • @redneckroy8947
    @redneckroy8947 Před rokem +5

    As an average layman with fairly good understanding of biology, it definitely looks like it's aquatic

  • @kenziehurlock
    @kenziehurlock Před rokem +5

    Spino is my brother's favorite dino.

  • @Forum-Elite
    @Forum-Elite Před rokem +5

    Hi man I love your videos! Keep up the great work!👍

  • @makomuru
    @makomuru Před rokem +4

    I can't wrap my head around the evolution of spinosaurus, it's still such an amazing and bizarre creature.

  • @calebvaldez676
    @calebvaldez676 Před rokem +4

    The pro wrestling meme was funny 😂

  • @Pastamist
    @Pastamist Před rokem +8

    Hoping Jurassic Park has the balls to show Spinofaarus.
    It would truly be ahead of its time.

  • @travisherndon94
    @travisherndon94 Před rokem +3

    The most controversial dinosaur
    T-Rex: huh I wonder who it is?
    Spinosaurus: It's me, Austin !
    T-Rex: Aw son of bitch.

  • @fossil-bit8439
    @fossil-bit8439 Před rokem +2

    One of my favorite scenes in the entire franchise, is in JP3 when they turn around after reuniting with Alan and Eric and see the Spino just staring at them.

  • @RaggedyMan78
    @RaggedyMan78 Před rokem +2

    It's actaully kinda disgusting how scientists love to state theories as fact.

  • @patsey3199
    @patsey3199 Před rokem +3

    Something I’ve always wondered about dinosaurs, which may help explain the contradictions of the Spino in particular; and that is if there are different breeds of each species that vary differently over their evolutionary lifespan?

    • @Dr.IanPlect
      @Dr.IanPlect Před rokem +4

      Well, breeds isn't the word. But yes, subsets of species such as subspecies, clines and races would certainly have been the case.

    • @karonuva
      @karonuva Před rokem +3

      Yep, just like there are indian/african elephants for example. Sexual dimorphism and how the animal changed as it went from baby to adult is also something to keep in mind.

  • @zamir8041
    @zamir8041 Před rokem +3

    Its cool to see my favorite dinosaur (I chose it as my favourite just because I saw how cool it looked in Jurassic Park Builder) being discussed and talked about

  • @RafuStudio
    @RafuStudio Před rokem +3

    Spinosaurus is kinda problematic since there is a possibility this animal actually a chimera

  • @luukzilla1519
    @luukzilla1519 Před rokem +6

    Am i the only one that doesn't see the Spinosaurus as some Killing Machine?

  • @BrandonJames2016
    @BrandonJames2016 Před rokem +9

    JP3 is the reason why I love the spinosaur cause of how badass it is. The T. rex apologists are still mad that fictional dinosaurs that aren’t genetically correct had the spino win against the T. rex.

    • @MorgothZEone
      @MorgothZEone Před rokem +2

      As someone who loves T-Rex, you make a valid point.

    • @T-REX-KNIGHT
      @T-REX-KNIGHT Před rokem +4

      I'm more mad the franchise absolutely REFUSES to let a T.rex get a legitimate win on its own.

    • @BrandonJames2016
      @BrandonJames2016 Před rokem

      @@T-REX-KNIGHT the only time the t-Rex won against some Dino’s was the raptors and the carno. It’s lost pretty much every other Dino battle.

    • @MorgothZEone
      @MorgothZEone Před rokem

      @@BrandonJames2016 that’s kinda the point they’re making, and honestly it would be nice if T-rex didn’t just outright loose every time and could stand on its own in battle, but these are films and really not worth arguing about these things, but i will admit it’d be cool for newer theropods to stand on their own without fighting or beating a T-Rex, because at this point it’s kinda boring having two big predators fight each other in a climactic final battle imo.

    • @jwdominionpyroraptor4775
      @jwdominionpyroraptor4775 Před rokem

      Well jp3 is not accurate Also i think you misunderstood his comment

  • @davidpalillero29
    @davidpalillero29 Před rokem +3

    The fact that you are using the wwe fights as to show how it feels with the Constant debate on paleontology

  • @TBevill1231
    @TBevill1231 Před rokem +4

    I remember when it was unlocked in Warpath and it looked Drastically different from how it would be depicted in JP3. Even the Lost World figure was different!

  • @kylgrv
    @kylgrv Před rokem +9

    Good grief! There is just so much disagreement on this one creature...but I agree that no matter what, Spinosaurus always looks really cool.

  • @dinosaurfan2409
    @dinosaurfan2409 Před rokem +2

    Spinosaurus is among my top favorite dinosaurs, with T.rex still being my all-time number one. Its size is incredible, and the overall biology makes it so unique, and Jurassic Park really helped grab my imagination for it over the years. I hope we find more complete specimens to finally have a more thorough understanding to what this dinosaur is. As a dinosaur and paleontology fan, I will not go against current theories and potential evidence, but honestly, I actually do wish Spinosaurus can be portrayed like how it was in the early 2000's. I've come to like that look. I guess having such shot legs despite being such a large theropod still strikes odd to me.

  • @MrTimelord77
    @MrTimelord77 Před rokem +3

    It's like a reverse platypus. Instead of a complete animal that can be fully studied, we have a limited skeleton that no one knows much about. Every new fossil comes with its own share of problems that will unlikely be resolved.

  • @Thermo-Lizard
    @Thermo-Lizard Před rokem +4

    Can't wait for the Spinosaurus discovery where we find out that it could breath fire

  • @danwoodLFC
    @danwoodLFC Před rokem +4

    I love you used WCW for this a man of culture

  • @hiattgrey9161
    @hiattgrey9161 Před rokem +1

    I don't hate Jurassic Park III personally, but I feel bad that Spinosaurus got so much hate for over one scene.

  • @chazielbey5946
    @chazielbey5946 Před rokem +3

    That classic intro got me! Nice!

  • @kavehthephantomboy
    @kavehthephantomboy Před rokem +5

    Spinosaurus description in 2100: It was an alien.

  • @norncare1
    @norncare1 Před rokem +2

    Great video! Spinosaurus is such a cool creature. Whatever the future holds for it, I think it's cool that different ecological niches are being considered for this animal. And it seems to me like the one consistent feature, other than a couple outliers, is a semiaquatic or at least coastal lifestyle. Whether that be a crocodile-like lifestyle, or maybe something that wades and spears fish like a giant heron, it's cool that it's occupying some sort of special ecological niche that other giant carnivores clearly weren't (no matter which niche that ends up being). I think it's neat when we find animals that are clearly really specialized, even if we don't fully know what that means for it yet.

  • @Nirvana919
    @Nirvana919 Před rokem +5

    Come for the dinosaur editorials, stay for the WWE/WCW cut-ins. 😂 (Seriously though, I never knew you were a fan of professional wrestling Klayton.)

    • @KlaytonFioriti
      @KlaytonFioriti  Před rokem +1

      I love wrestling! Just finished rewatching all of 1986 - 1989 in the WWF! Now onto WCW! Can’t wait to see Randy and Hogan get there!

  • @sierraMaddin
    @sierraMaddin Před rokem +4

    i still got my the lost world spinosaurus toy

  • @compatriot852
    @compatriot852 Před rokem +3

    The entire Spinosaurid family is an anomaly that is constantly changing. The legs and body length are the oddest considering they are so different compared to all their cousins. There's also the idea that there's multiple species

  • @HannibalAcrotices
    @HannibalAcrotices Před rokem

    Hey Klayton I REALLY MISS your background ambient music that used to play. It added a lot of iconic atmosphere to your videos that I’ve always loved.
    I would really like to see it come back!! 😔

  • @devinlowe51
    @devinlowe51 Před rokem +6

    I wish in JP3 they hit the point more of the Spino being more of a hybrid (compared to the other dinosaurs) and get more in-depth on its history…feel like that could of driven a better story. Especially if the plane killed its mate, which would of driven it to hunt the group, and eventually yes fight to trex (in a previous video I said should of fought a pair of Ceratosaurus in the forest instead of the spino) 🤷‍♂️I love the movie don’t get me wrong but I think that would of been better

    • @MorgothZEone
      @MorgothZEone Před rokem +3

      Well, back then the idea of Hybrids existing in JP didn’t occur until Jurassic World. By the time JP3 came out that was just how people thought Spinosaurus looked, it being a Hybrid creature was merely a retcon due to the fact by that point the newer discoveries and theories had come out that presented Spinosaurus as it is now.

    • @devinlowe51
      @devinlowe51 Před rokem

      @@MorgothZEone I mean you’re not wrong🤪

  • @Flyranitar
    @Flyranitar Před rokem +10

    T rex is top dog, but Spino will forever be the second best big carnivore baddie Dino of the franchise. That thing was a menace which didn’t walk into cartoonish territory like the hybrids

    • @MorgothZEone
      @MorgothZEone Před rokem +3

      A lot of people hating Hybrids these days it seems

    • @justanormaldilo.249
      @justanormaldilo.249 Před rokem

      @@MorgothZEone
      I don’t hate them.

    • @MorgothZEone
      @MorgothZEone Před rokem

      @@justanormaldilo.249 nor do i

    • @stephk5797
      @stephk5797 Před rokem

      *ominous, muffled Kirby's Bath and Tile jingle echoing in the distance*

  • @jdrexy4459
    @jdrexy4459 Před rokem +3

    This constantly changing of Spinosaurus's reconstruction reminds me of one of our cats. He will literally cry and cry to go outside or come inside and then want back in or back out like 2 or less minutes later. He'll even stand right at the door while we wait for him to hurry up and decide what he wants to do.

  • @jamespeacock356
    @jamespeacock356 Před rokem +3

    Size shape scales controversy... Excitement

  • @woodscrafter1971
    @woodscrafter1971 Před rokem +6

    Love it!! I always found it hard to believe how those front claws could equate to quadropedalism...but maybe they could. I'm a skeptic at heart. Science seems to be more about defending theories than actual provable facts. Spino is a fascinating animal that I expect may prove everyone wrong when more fossil evidence is unearthed. Perhaps it was a scavenger that snatched dying fish out of the water while actively hunting pterosaurs...I can't help but recall my childhood when Apatosaurus/Brontosaurus could only support it's immense weight by being submerged in swamp water. 🤣🤣

  • @S0ulGh0st
    @S0ulGh0st Před rokem +1

    It feels like a new study with radical rethinkings about the spino comes out EVERY OTHER MONTH.

  • @WWFCWiggy
    @WWFCWiggy Před rokem +4

    Loved the wrestling reference, brother!

  • @kottadragon
    @kottadragon Před rokem +1

    To throw my own hat in the ring as somebody's whose favorite dino is Spinosarus, I agree with Scott and various other paleontologists, and think the hind legs of Ibrahim's chimeric reconstruction are too short. Looking at other Spinosauridae and their gaits, I think there's more evidential ground that Spinosaurus was bipedal.

  • @xenomorphqueenqueenalien6501

    Spino is not the Dino we should keep hating we should hate the person made Spino to kill the T-Rex in reality no Spino has match for aT-Rex

    • @redx3816
      @redx3816 Před rokem +3

      👏

    • @MorgothZEone
      @MorgothZEone Před rokem +10

      The guy responsible (or at least partly responsible) was Jack Horner, the paleontologist who married a 19 year old student of his…
      No I didn’t make that up, he actually did.

    • @rayan5904
      @rayan5904 Před rokem +9

      Don’t care + spino is cooler + it’s a hybrid + it’s a movie

    • @spinozilla2421
      @spinozilla2421 Před rokem +3

      @@rayan5904not a hyrbid, in jp universe that how it is, the first hyrbid stated was scorpio rex from CC tv show.

    • @spinozilla2421
      @spinozilla2421 Před rokem +4

      @@MorgothZEonehe was somewhat responsible but it was mainly due because of Jurassic park 2. they thought the idea of a big carnivore for the next film was nothing nw but just 2 trex was a stupid idea, and in story writing the next villain or threat is usually greater for the plot. since the trex was already used it found itself as the shonen punching bag for comparison to display how deadly the new big bad was, which is why the spino, irex, and giga are displayed kicking the trex ass with ease in the films

  • @PrehistoricMagazine
    @PrehistoricMagazine Před rokem +2

    I’ve talked about this on my channel. It’s a bummer because we can never see it in prehistoric planet until people agree on how it lived it’s life

  • @Brokneebhee
    @Brokneebhee Před rokem +5

    This is a certified Dino classic

  • @Mizfit100880
    @Mizfit100880 Před rokem +3

    Bro you had me dying with that intro 😂😂😂

  • @rhinoxsaurus3560
    @rhinoxsaurus3560 Před rokem +3

    At this point I believe Godzilla is a accurate depiction of Spinosaurus than Spinosaurus itself somehow

  • @jakeyunginger9604
    @jakeyunginger9604 Před rokem +1

    Hello Klayton! My name is Jacob and I'm a huge jurassic fan and decided to make a novel that takes place on sorna during hurricane clarissa. The characters are a paleontologist, genetic engineer, and security guard that get caught up in the evacuation and are let stranded with all of the newly released dinosaurs. I was wondering, if you would know, if any of the dinosaurs that were released would have been close to full size or somewhere in the ball park of being sub-adult? The reason I ask this is because it would be nice for the characters to be able to encounter larger specimens and not just juveniles and chicks.

  • @beenjammin2000
    @beenjammin2000 Před rokem +3

    “One really big one with a fin.”

  • @danielmalinen6337
    @danielmalinen6337 Před rokem +1

    I still find the 2022 paper hilarious that Spinosaurus is so poor in shallow water that if it fell on its side and its sail went under the water because its body was unbalanced in the water, its muscle strength was not enough to lift the sail up from under the water due drag and it would drown. But EDGE talked about an ongoing study on his channel that hypothesizes that Spinosaurus might also have been too weak to walk because it was too big to walk and its pelvis and femurs couldn't support its weight, which is even more hilarious than 2022 study.

  • @jackmills7758
    @jackmills7758 Před rokem +4

    part of me thinks that the disagreements is all a stunt to confuse people with contradictory research for their gain and generating ad money, since spinosaurus is popular enough to milk people with

  • @raymondraptorclaw2901
    @raymondraptorclaw2901 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Big sail, flat tail, overall sleek… seems pretty aquatic to me. I bet they could wiggle their whole body like ribbons to swim. The sail could’ve been a stabilizer… I’m imagining the spino swimming not entirely horizontal but kinda at a angle.

  • @matthewlovesbritney
    @matthewlovesbritney Před rokem +3

    Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus my favorite 🔥💪

  • @ornstein714
    @ornstein714 Před rokem +1

    I remember watching this channel a lot a few years back, glad to see you're still making quality content
    Spino is prob up there for me in terms of favorite, and i always liked the semi aqautic theory, and the idea that it was kinda both quadra and bipedal, idk, just felt the most right to me personally, im not a paleontologist though

  • @WildStudios65150
    @WildStudios65150 Před rokem +3

    FOR GOD'S SAKE WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS BEAST?!.

  • @humanwrecker1648
    @humanwrecker1648 Před rokem +1

    Dinosaurs are in sense, mythical beasts themselves, due to the shear lack of knowledge we have of them and can only really speculate what they looked like or how they behaved.

  • @tydyman2003
    @tydyman2003 Před rokem +3

    I like to think it was a giant Bipedal sail back crocodile, just cause thats a cool idea. Also speaking of Spinosaurus Page One, a Beast Pirate in One Piece was clearly inspired by the Jurassic Park Spino

  • @Chronoic
    @Chronoic Před rokem +1

    This is why I love the Spinosaurus, because it a mystery.

  • @karsonhinojosa2163
    @karsonhinojosa2163 Před rokem +3

    I feel like this also applies to Oxalaia, another Dino very similar in appearance to Spinosaurus. If they do have it make an appearance that is. I know the last the Primal Ops model looks surprisingly good despite the inaccuracies, and they could use that as its main look in the movies or tv shows. Yet another part of me understands that it would simply get a lot of confusion if they add two animals that look very similar and confuse the audience. Still, I feel like they could use a scene to where a spinosaur facing off against something like a giant crocodile, like Sarcosuchus or Deinosuchus. Or if they go the extra route, have it fight a Carcharodontosaur that has a little bit of actual fact