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- čas přidán 26. 02. 2020
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In this video, we are going to find out if the Synergy Trackbar and sector shaft brace will help out with our 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicons steering issues.
The Jeep has had a strange (loose) steering issue since we drove it off the lot. In fact, many other owners have noticed the same thing...
Previous to this, we have added adjustable control arms for caster, adjusted tire PSI, added a adjustable steering stabilizer, and i even messed around with the tie rod toe setting to see if it made any differences.
With those upgrades, the steering was enhanced quite a bit, however a small amount of slop was still noticed.
As you can tell, the steering box actually has some play.. Im not sure what is causing it, however i do know that this new brace stopped the play, and it sure did strengthen everything up!
If you are having any steering issues, or simply want to beef up your steering in a known weak spot then i would highly reccomend a brace for any JT,JL, or JK wrangler.
I hope you enjoyed the video, and hopefully this will help a few of you.
Thank you for watching, please leave a thumbs up and i will see you all next week.
If you are interested in this, whether it’s for your JK, JL or JT I would highly recommend calling Gillian at Offroad Elements and get pricing. Tell her Ben sent ya 🤘 .
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I ran the Synergy Trackbar support bracket on my JKU for years and it worked great!
The timing of this video though... You're the man Ben.
JK Gear and Gadgets and now I have you’re old track bar brace on my JKU! I still think that’s kinda cool
my 2018 jl steers fine after 25,000 miles. but great video and something to keep in mind for the future. might be good on my daughters 2006 tj though ( or get rid of her mud tires)
I guess I'm lucky. I've seen a few posts on the facebook pages of people complaining about the steering/wobble, but I have had zero issues with steering before and after my lift install.
How is your steering on jku?
For those that have the original Synergy brace: There is a screw on the bottom of the aluminum block to prevent the bronze ring from coming out; however, even with this screw tight, the bronze ring in the aluminum block has a tendency of rotating (speaking from experience). If it does, there is a chance that your grease hole in the aluminum block no longer lines up with the grease hole in the bronze ring. A quick way to test it is if you apply grease and notice grease coming out between the aluminum block and the ring instead of the ring and the pitman arm nut, your bronze ring has probably rotated. Synergy has corrected this issue by designing a new aluminum block that has a set-screw drilled into the side of the bronze ring to prevent it from turning. They also have a new pitman arm nut design that includes rubber o-rings to help keep the grease in and foreign particles out.
I'm super happy I fell on this video!! I have this same issue on my 2014 JK and been racking my brain on the cause. I'm looking forward to apply this fix to my Jeep. Thank you!! :)
I hear you on the loose steering. I feel it in my gladiator and I will definitely look into this product. Thanks for the video!
I did the Falcon stabilizer and that really helped with the "spongy" feel the wheel had before. I've been kicking around this brace for a while, and after seeing this, I think it's worth the effort - I'm in!
Your daughter's concern about the jeep being broken was so sweet!!!
I cant wait to have kids to take off road!
I got the steering stabalizer when my lift was installed. Now i have the Synergy bracket waiting to be installed her in the next few weeks. They were sold out for months! Im hoping i get the same results you guys did, the way you guys described your steering is exactly how mine is. thanks for the video
I did the same bracket in January. Same thing as you, definitely a noticeable dIfference with steering. Also had to adjust the steering wheel to get it all straightened up. Definitely one of my more favorite mods on my JT.
I just installed mine last night. Thank you for posting this video. It was not easy lining up the holes. In all it took me 5 hours to do.
It’s cool seeing y’all drive around my home town! I don’t live there any more but my mom and sister live off of Jefferson Ave! Need to look at the steering box on my JL feels way loose. Thanks for the tips!
Yours is the second review/install I've seen on this bracket. I'll be installing this on my JL because it does seem to have a mind of its own on the highway occasionally. Nicely done!!
Did it help?
I’ve been checking on the Synergy bracket. I’m glad to hear it helped yours. Hopefully it will fix my JL as I too have that looseness that you describe.
I have this on my JK with 35s. Synergy recommends using their trackbar with the JK setup. My Teraflex trackbar was slightly hitting the new nut on the Pittman arm. So you may want to check this out on the JLs.
Thanks for the info Ben, recently subscribed to your channel for the great insight and your camera demeanor. I currently have a JT on order and looking forward to getting it, will be installing this part ASAP just for the added support prior to driving cross country. Keep up the good work bud.
Awesome info!!! I was looking for something to help my steering. (That was affordable to me). The fox stabilizer was a huge help but like you mentioned if there was somewhat of a dip or slight rut in the road the Jeep sorta follows that line and I have to forcefully steer out of it. ( not as noticeable off-road ) but definitely going to do this to my JK.
Thanks!!!
I put one on my JT about a month ago. Huge improvement.
Installed this on my JTR about 2 weeks ago. My JTR isn't lifted yet and watching your video shows it would of been much easier if it had been. Had to heat my pitman arm nut as well. then it came right off. Re-torqueing the new one is fun, helps to have both tires on the ground so steering linkage doesn't move. Definitely tightens up the steering.
Great video! Thank you for the honest review. We were extremely disappointed with our JL and the same loose steering. I did find a TSB on the Jeep forums that talks about adjusting the electric steering motor sensitivity, but no clue if it’s fixing anything.
I just picked up my Gladiator last night and the steering was the first thing I noticed. Thanks for the info!
You both are awesome, thanks for all the great content and “how to” videos! 🙏🏻👍
I thinking on adding this plus the steering stabilizer i think the combination on both is great according to your review, i also like a better and stiff steering while driving simply because ir feel like you have more control over the steering wheel. Thank you so much, you dont know much your videos have helped me with my jeep.
Totally recommend this mod! Made a massive difference on my JK!
Had the same issue before my lift and got better with my Teraflex Alpine lift. I still installed this but went with Steer Smarts bracket since their actually has a bearing instead of a bushing. Works great just as this bracket and looks like they are made the same.
Thanks for another great video. Been debating this purchase for awhile. Just added to the cart. Keep up the great work 👍🏻
Great video. Not noticing this looseness on my stock JTR but will be on the lookout. Great to see a family guy on here. Got my 10 year old son filming with me.
You guys work so well and include each other in your hobby life style
Great video Ben been looking at one of these you just sealed the deal keep up the great work
I agree! I had the same issues before and after a 3.5 inch lift on 37's with my JLUR and the synergy track bar sector shaft brace really helped tighten up the steer. Night and day difference for me!
Wish I could find something like that for the jeep WJ .
i adjusted the steering box on my jl its perfect now 35" tires stock suspension stock everything rubicon
Great upgrade. We noticed a noticeable improvement on our JK with 38's.
I have an '05 TJ Rocky Mtn, so I went with the M.O.R.E Steering Box Brace 03 - 06. Many novices have said to tighten the steering box, but highly reputable experts suggest going with the brace with a new steering stabilizer, which I just ordered. So I feel confident these two will correct my loose, wandering steering issue. Tightening the box is a bad idea and will only make matters worse by accelerating its destruction. Great video you two. I always felt Rt. 64 was very uneven, I thought it just me, nice to know other Jeepers know that too. Hope your next move is a good one.
Thinking this my next attempt at tightening my JK steering. Hoping tje install is as easy as you make it look. You're a pro! Great stuff.
Do you have a lift? Adjustable control arms might be what you need
I just bought a 2020 Gladiator Sport, and yes did notice the steering is loose while I am at high speeds. Yesterday I tried to explain it to the dealership, and their answer was "that is how jeeps will drive, but they have replaced about 4 other boxes before" I know that the dead zone on my Jeep is not normal and yes I feel that I cannot keep my Jeep straight on the highway. Thank you so much for confirming my view on this issue and providing a possible solution to it.
Ive had a similar brace on my Dodge Ram for over 2 decades and it made a huge difference. I'll look at getting one on my JKU.
So glad we did this. It drive soooo much better!
I don’t feel my steering is loose, but it’s the wondering on the road I am experiencing. Did this help with that? Like when the wind blows or I pass a truck it pushes my Gladiator. I have owned plenty of Jeep Wranglers and never experienced this.
michael murray experiencing the same. Some days worse than others but constant micro corrections to stay centered in the lane.
I know there are weld issues in that area, steering box or something pulling away from the frame, welds breaking?
michael murray same on my 2020 Rubicon
they finally got the jk squared away lol and now this? lol glad I stuck with the 2018 jk and not the 2018 jl..
i literally just installed this on my JLUR and it tightened it up by 75-80% and i found the exact same complications you did. had to beat and pry on the bracket a bit to get all the bolts lined up.
Can’t believe all of what I am finding out about the steering! I just bought my 2020Overland Gladiator yesterday, it has 37k miles on it. Took it on a 3 hr drive today and I am down the rabbit hole of all these steering issues! It has an apt Monday to fix a crack in the windshield and I am definitely going to have them retorque everything and look at the steering. I drove a 2004 Dakota before this gladiator and the Dakota had better steering!! Can’t believe how sloppy it feels. It has 33” tires on it- kept making excuses as to why it felt so sloppy , but now I see it’s got to be something else! Thanks for the videos!
“Daddy’s Jeep always broken” - that will be a line to remember. Classic from my son as a toddler seeing a crescent moon 🌙 “Look Daddy banana moon”
Hello, On my JKUR I installed the Synergy Steering Box, Sector Shaft / Track Bar Bracket. The main reason for me was a strength improvement. Someone I know showed me a video of him driving his Jeep and breaking his stock JK Sector Shaft. I did not want that happening to my Jeep.I also had issues of getting it all lined up, I needed to use a die grinder with a bur to make the track bar bolt hole line up.I to would say Thumbs UP. Thanks, take care and stay safe.
Thanks for the information! I immediately told my husband we need that for our Jeep, it has so much play even after we had the caster adjusted, it still has some issues
Did u end up getting the brace? Improvement?
Just wanted to add a BIG +1. I installed the same bracket a few days ago on my 2019 JL. By chance I also have the Falcon stabilizer. In my case, not only was there play, but there was more play turning right than left. Presumably this is because the box pulls away from the frame turning right while it's up against the frame turning left. Super annoying. Anyway, the bracket seems to have removed most of the play and made it even. So much better now.
I noticed a difference in my JLUR once I moved to heavy 37's. I placed the brace on and it helped a lot.
This vid still comes up in my feed. My JTR did has never had this issue. I bought mine in Oct 2019 with 12 miles on it.
My JLUR felt "off" from the day it was new. The Synergy brace made it drive GREAT!
You make this look so easy! Great video! Thank you!
Thanks for the informative video and the detail on the steering box movement. I have noticed this very same issue on my JT Rubicon since the day I picked it up from the dealer. Also a good observation about the chamber of the toad and how the JT will self-steer into it...especially as your speed is 45 and over. I may have to add this to mine...
...camber. Not chamber...love autocorrect
I ordered the one for my jku I hope that fixes the same problem. Thats great it worked out for you.
Great stuff! I love the channel! Your advice is always appreciated.
Off road elements was amazing! Eric was awesome when I dealt with him.
Thank you so much for the video I'm ordering mine tomorrow
Before I lifted my Gladiator it had good solid steering, but since I was installing 3.5 in. lift and 37's I went ahead and ordered and installed that bracket. The steering is nice and solid.
Should i get synergy track bar or i can use any other track bar?
My JLR is my 5th Wrangler and I noticed the loose steering immediately on the drive home. My other Wranglers didn’t have the issue my JLR has. I upgraded the drag link, and tie rod with Synergy parts. It helped for a minute then went back to being squirrelly. I recently picked up this part and haven’t installed it yet. Hopefully it fixes the steering issue. Thanks for the vid...
Thanks for the video, might have to get this brace soon!
Jl/JT def have loose steering. I have had 15 jeeps and my JLUR was horrible. So horrible that FCA purchased it back! Glad to see that there is an aftermarket solution now.
i have that on my jk awesome! well done guys and great instructive video as usual ! bravo!!
Great informative video as usual ! Keep it up!
This has to be what the deal is with our 2020 JL! My wife and I have owned every open-top Jeep from CJ’s to our current JL (plus each of our children own a JK currently). We have never experienced quite what the JL’s steering is like. From the sales floor we’ve been saying that the steering is loose and that it wanders, but we assumed it was because we were so used to her BMW, which had a very tight, sporty steering. We will definitely be trying this kit. Thank goodness I stumbled on your channel today! You’ve won my subscription!
I know this is old now, but how is it now? I too have a BMW (X3 M40i) and I really notice the slop when switching back and forth between the BMW ad my JLUR.
Not currently running anything to help on the jk but need to do some upgrades to the steering here in the near future. Thanks for sharing!
I installed this on my ‘14 JKUR. It seemed to help some, but after a while, the nut holding the dropped pittman arm fell off and was lost, and I had to order a new one. Once I installed the new one, I notice the steering was getting loose again, so looked, and saw the nut was loose again. Tightened it again and drove a couple of weeks. It got loose again. I requested support from Synergy, but no help. So, I removed the sector shaft brace, but kept the track bar brace installed. Put the original pittman arm nut back on. Upon inspection of the Synergy nut, it has an uneven wear on one side, where it contacts the Synergy bearing, causing it to come loose, even when torquing to 180 ft-lb.
So, inspect you nut to proper tightness periodically.
I had a 2003 dodge diesel with the same type of issue it was frame flex. It looks like the same type of issue. Well done video
You guys are right in my back yard. I'm in Chesapeake. Love the videos.
I have both on my jlu. It does make a huge difference 😊.
Great info and video, as always!
I recommend you put a mark on the bronze bushing where the grease hole is. My bronze bushing ended up spinning inside the aluminum brace. It didn’t take too much force to pop the bushing out and realign it. I used loctite when reinstalling it because it was too easy to pop it out
Those flood lights look amazing!!! Interested in this kit. My Jk floats on the hwy...
Recently got a 2020 JL upgraded fox lift and suspension with 35s all straight out the dealer and I too have a loose steering. On the way home on the freeway that day I swear I was swerving. Something you have to get used to.
Just ordered mine, thanks for the video!!!
I had a wobble problem in my Ram 2500. Ended up with a steering box brace, synergy steering kit and synergy track bar. The wobble is long gone even with 37x1350s. Synergy makes good stuff.
I just installed the SteerSmarts version on our JL Rubicon. It made a significant difference! 😊
I forgot to post after I got my JT Rubi into the dealer a few months back. The new Steering Gear box they replaced under the steering TSB makes a night and day difference. There is no more play in the steering, where before i could turn the wheel a good 10-15 degrees before the vehicle begin to turn, all that is gone with the new steel gear box.
NICE I ordered one I can not wait to put it on THANKS for another GRATE video
I put Synergy’s Steering skid brace on my TJ. Huge difference.
Can't believe I missed this post, I've had the same issue with my JLU, this bracket definitely helps, they do have a TSB/TechNote about it, but it's currently hard to get the replacement/ upgraded steering box. I'm still due to get this replaced under warranty. I had to remove the synergy to make it happen 😂. Funny my other 2 door JLR doesn't have any play🤣
Thanks for the content!
18 JLU AEV
Installing mine this Friday. Great video.
My JL is doing the exact same thing on the highway it would wonder too much. Hopefully the TSB Jeep came out with “replaces the steering box” fixes this. If not I’m buying the brace for sure. Great video
Start watching at 15:04, and watch the sector shaft base, specifically back near the golden grade 8 bolt next to the zerg fitting. It's still flexing quite a lot. It's even causing the Synergy track bar bracket part to flex too...
Great video! Man that part made a huge difference.
Wanted to see how many caught the broken windshield but so far no one commented .. Time to get it fixed before a popo sees it since it is in your line of sight .. Great video ..
Awesome info like always. Thank you guys!
Awesome video as always 👍🏻
I installed the same bracket on my 2019 JL Rubicon Unlimited running 3.5 X-Factor w/39 BFGs. After about 1000 miles, I noticed movement at the sector shaft brace. The nut is moving inside the brass bushing side to side cause the hole to oval. I also noticed on your video the back side of your brace has a lot of movement too. I believe the permanent fix is PSC hydro assist. I was going to install the Falcon steering stabilizer but after watching your video, I believe the only fix is hydro.
Ben you made this look so easy. I had to fight to get things to fit.
I agree I have test drove 3 jls and all where loose 2 where very noticeable
I added Steersmarts bracket(without sector shaft brace), SS trackbar, SS draglink, SS tierod, and Fox TS stabilizer. Steering feels great, I will consider swapping that bracket if something changes.
My steering on my JK was extremely loose but surprisingly the fix was JKS quick disconnects. Ever since, the steering has been tight and it doesn’t drift around as much!
I liked the go pro shots of the box great review I have a jku hard rock and it has a 3.25 rough county lift on it and their shocks and dual steering stabilizers rough county brand (bought it like that) going with a fox by teraflex stabilizer and going with fox 2.0 shocks to start and see where that gets me heard RC shocks are the weakest shock out there, I’m bouncing all over the road
my new jlru steering is a bit squirrelly for the price i will definitely install it awesome review
great explanation and install
Need to check for the JK. Thanks again.
At a minimum I would recommend the trackbar brace!
Awesome install!!!
Man I love your content . Makes me want to buy the Jeep even more
I just bought this upgraded to the falcon damper and shocks as well and waiting for this to arrive to see if it takes that last little play out of the steering. Im hoping for the best
Helpful info! I might just need to do this on my JK.
Patrick James McBride synergymfg.com/synergy-jeep-jk-front-track-bar-and-sector-shaft-brace-kit.html
Thanks for the great info
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Mine was horrid. Bought a Fox 2.0 ats stabilizer, and it helped a little. The software upgrade I got at the dealer fixed most of it, but it's getting bad again thanks to wheeling on stock parts.
Great vid once again by you guys!! Looking for the eco diesel at the end?!?! Hinting at your guys next purchase??????? Haha
Full PSC kit. Mine jlur was tight when new, eventually you could turn the wheel an inch and the pitman arm would not move. No slop at all with PSC kit.
My steering wasn't bad before, but when I added this kit I came to realize it was bad. This brace is a no brainer solid improvement.
Cassey in a JL eco??? Holy moly that would be awesome!
OMG I have the old style bracket from them one bolt was rubbing on my spring I love the bracket but I cut one bolt off and welded it works great I called the company and the said they were coming out with a new updated model I have a vid on my CZcams about it it was a problem but I fixed it and again I love the set up