I purchased this exact safe on Black Friday. Got it all set up, and had no issues with it, The set up was easy, programming the lock worked the first time too. It was in the original, brand new box. Sounds like you purchased a "Floor Display Model". That will change the score for sure, I give mine a 5 Star rating. It is just what I need.
This video is mostly BS. I own this same safe. He acted like he couldn’t get in it. If he had access to the manual, the keys were in it to open it. As for the design, if he didn’t like it he shouldn’t have purchased it!
It's not BS. He stated he liked it for what it was and was going to work for him. He did let people know that if the combo did not work to get in that most likely Tractor Supply changed the code. He also let people know you may not get any help moving the safe to the front of your truck or tie it down. What's with you? Did you not watch the entire thing? He also let people know if you were to call Winchester you may have a long wait in getting an answer and it may not be the one you were wanting.
it’s a $500 safe. If you want all the bells and whistles and top quality, go buy a safe at that price point. I love this safe. Is it the best? no. Does it work good enough? yes. For comparison. My father had safe from liberty safe and it was broken into as well. Everyone was away for the weekend and the bad guy had plenty of time. lock’s only keep honest people out.
I just bought this safe and this is the first video I saw when I looked it up. I’m happy you say otherwise lol. This guy is rating the safe off customer service
I agree I’ve never seen a safe accommodate the number of guns on the label and also agree that going off CS. I was told the TSC resets the code when they receive them as most use 1-2-3-4-5-6 as a generic code and didn’t want people getting hurt or locked in them.
I got one of these safes and immediately scrapped the interior parts and just built what I wanted out of 3/4 plywood. I basically kept the carpet on the walls, floor, ceiling and then built my own U shaped border with notches that would keep the rifles from falling over, no center divider. Then I built a shelf to support the provided shelf because it looked like it was about to buckle when I put even the tiniest bit of weight on it. I planned this from the time I looked at the safe from Tractor Supply. I use it for AR's mostly so I have a lot of room on the top shelf.
I had the opposite experience with my local Tractor Supply store when we bought this safe. Our sales person was very helpful and went out of her way to facilitate the ordering and delivery of the safe that saved me approximately $200 in shipping and handling expense. The safe was delivered by a freight company into my garage as was promised. We purchased it on black Friday and there were some system issues happening and she got on the phone with TSC customer service to ensure that the order was received and all delivery arrangements were made properly. In addition, she also did some suggestions for accessories that would be helpful for lighting and humidity. I understand that this is a lower end safe but I would also state that it is a good value for what you are spending and is a good starting point for my son's needs.
Nice detailed video. I got the TS26-45 and so far I’m loving it.. you probably bought the display safe that’s why the default code was changed. When I bought my safe they had one of each model open on the floor and they had different codes set on them for display purposes, my safe was unopened and still in the box when I got it. I know it’s not the best safe out there but for my budget and what I have it should be solid.
I have this exact same safe. I fit 42 rifles in mine. Mix between shotguns, AR's AK's and bolt actions. I just used rifle rods. Also fit about 20 pistols using magnetic mounts on the side drilled into the sides, and pistol hangers. No optics though. I have those in a separate safe where I store all my ammo. I did replace the top shelf with carpeted 1/2" plywood with a cutout on the left side for my 2 longer rifles.
Great video review. I bought this Winchester model on sale for $499 at Tractor Supply. I agree it's not the best safe in the world, but for me it fits my needs. I had the 12 gun model that would not even hold 6 long guns and no real room for ammo at all. This 36 gun model has room for my long guns and all of my ammo. So I am happy with it. Thanks again.
I got the 24 gun safe from winchester, and it's absolutely perfect. Zero issues at all. You probably took the floor model.. my tractor supply changes the code on their floor models for security purposes. Mine also has the cut out in the top shelf already.
The front notches are great for scoped longarms. I have a 12ga slug gun and two hunting rifles, along with other non scoped arms. First safe, I have seen, that provided direct fit scope spots, from the factory, without needing special stand offs.
Bought this one on sale for organizing/overflow and ammo storage, it is nice for what it is. I wouldn't really call it a safe. No issues Protip: If you're not buying a safe new in the box make sure you get the code from the seller and are able to open it before you leave 🤣🤣🤣
I just bought this safe today and upon initial inspection of it at Tractor Supply it was very clear that this was not a safe conducive to holding any amount of long guns. I have a collection of 40 handguns, one ar15, one defensive shotgun, and plenty of ammunition that I would like to store. For that purpose it will work just fine but I can't imagine someone buying this safe knowing that their primary use will be for multiple long guns, oh well
My friend finally gave up on his safe company and borrowed my angle grinder so he could gets his guns out. His guns were not damaged. Insurance is the best option, but most are like me who own family heirlooms that can't be replaced.
Wow great video Jack. Iv always wondered about those safes. Hope you have a nice Christmas. One thing I wondered was the hole you put in it for the cord would it need to be sealed with some kind of a fire safe sealer? I mean to help it during a fire. I think it needs any help it can get. Very honest review. The safe has its place. It would work for somebody that cant afford the better ones i guess. Hope the family is doing well. Be safe buddy.
I bought the same one...had an easy install no issues with mine... love the safe but plan on changing the lock to a mechanical one BY the way mine has a rectangle hole in the top shelf for longer barrel guns
I have a 12 gun Winchester safe now but need a bigger one and was looking at this same one. I agree the setup inside is not well thought out. I would get rid of everything in the middle and leave all the gun slots on the inside perimeter for long guns. And enough space for all my ammo.
I went looking for a secondary safe yesterday. Since I'm not too keen on Liberty anymore I was looking for another manufacturer. The Winchester TS36-45 safe is on sale at TSC right now for $499. Does this safe feel fairly cheaply made? Yes. But for the price point you're getting pretty much what you pay for.
Had to replace key pad after 4 years. Key pad stopped working and like you, 3 hours of poor customer service and looping recordings. I e changed battery with 2 different types.only to be told that I need new one. I was not offered how to reset. Great review!
The 36 gun claim, as well as the 45 minute fire rating are less than realistic, yes. But they are no different than any other manufacturer. Metal shelf cleats and homemade plywood shelves are cheap and easy, if you don't like the ones it came with. The store that sold this unit failed by not telling the buyer how to access. I have this exact unit. My long shotguns (2) fit nicely just inside the door, on the sides of the safe, without affecting the shelves at all. The keypad failed after a couple months, but at least I had a key and could still get in. And after some back and forth emails to TSC/Winchester about the battery, they mailed me a new keypad at no charge, which has been working fine so far. Overall, very satisfied with this box, at this price point.
I own 2 of these, but I accidentally misplaced the keys that came with the second safe.. Will the keys from the first safe open the second one? Both are the same model.
I have two of the same safe but it doesn’t have the key option! One of the safes won’t open and when connecting Winchester I’m being told the person that deal with safe issues is out do to sickness!
Stand your tall shotgun inside the lip on the left of the door, problem solved. I’ve had a Winchester safe for 3-4 years now and it’s still in perfect working condition. My safe came with instructions for setting/resetting the code. Looks like you bought a floor model, mine came in a box new. These aren’t the best by far but these are much better than most in price range imo. Money wasn’t an object I still wouldn’t buy a Liberty, I’d get a custom safe, they aren’t that much more.
The 24 gun safe seems to be more practical. The idea that 36 guns can fit in yours is insane. The 24 gun safe seems to be more realistic in their rating, if not quite 24. My needs are a safe that will keep casual home burglars from getting any guns, if they get in while I am not home. Nobody wants to attempt to haul a 350 pound safe they happened to come across because they are not equipped for it, unless they knew about it ahead of time, and no one will know ahead of time. I don't advertise. With this in mind, the 24 gun safe will fit my needs just fine. It has a cut-out in the top shelf already, which will work well for my 52 1/2 inch long Schmidt Rubin, without the bayonet attached. ;)
“I don’t know how my long shotgun will fit” 9yo me in the 80’s completely disassembling every gun, car, tractor, mower, tv we owned. Your a grown man allegedly, UNSCREW THE BARREL🤦♂️
I’m of the opinion that no gun safe is perfect. Yes some are better then others. Mine came just as the Manuel said code wise. Had zero problems. While I’m not convinced of 36 guns, I think it also depends on what firearms your putting into it. Plastic clips can be upgraded although not by Winchester. Same with the shelves. While I value your opinion, based on the points you talked about it’s completely subjective.
The only mishap with mines was setting a new code but that was my fault. I misunderstood the directions but after the 6th try or so or about an hour later i finally realized my mistake granted i was a several beers in lol. For the price I'm not complaining.
Well you did buy a cheap safe in a box store. I have one but atleast it has a steel plate door. The body is 12 gage (.107") weight empty 500lbs. It's a step better than that but not a whole lot. That one is probably 14 gage (.074") most are now. I use mine for guns but I'm looking for a,T-30
I had a kind of similar situation except I found out about their code change in the store. Asked them why they changed the codes. They told me they change it so kids don't unlock and lock up their siblings in the safes. Don't know if that is true but that's what the associate told me. Makes sense and probably a liability reason.
Mine did. It actually came with 3, two with the manual, and one taped to the inside lip of the door, that I discovered when I put LED strip lights in it. It looks like what we used to call a coke machine key...round.
Safes are a complete waste. First off if someone wants in and they have the time THEY WILL GET IN. So the difference between a 600 dollar safe and a 4,000 safe is moot. Fire Ratings forget it. If you have super valuable things go to a bank. For guns this Winchester will do the trick.
I don't trust any safe to keep firearms safe in any fire. It a place burns down you will have fire damage even in a safe if it's a bad fire. I am thinking about getting one of these for my barn at my farm to keep the guns in we hunt the farm with. A metal building what can go wrong? Not crazy about the set up and may need to modify for scoped rifles but we will see when we get there. Nice video.
it says directly in the manual to not call Winchester about any issues about the safe and instead call the place you bought it from TS Winchester doesn't even make these.
I have this safe and I thought WOW I finally have one big enough for all my weapons and my jewelry!! The problem with this safe is that you can get into this safe without a combination or a default code! My husband wanted into it to get to something of mine and I was SHOCKED TO FIND PUT THIS SAFE WAS NOT BURGLAR PROOF! Twist the lock as though you are going to put in a battery and were the ribbon is move it slightly and put a clothes hanger end inside the slot and move it until it catches and the door opens right up!! I fixed this problem with silicone!! But I think you could take the back off the door and put in a metal plate!! I’m very upset that this safe is so easy to break into!!
I won't buy any gun safe with less than an hour of fire rating. P.S., if you are keeping documents in a Gun safe put them in a sentry fire box and then put that into the safe. With the highest fire rating you can afford.
I've heard/read that fire ratings on these things is just marketing BS and most safes; with maybe the most expensive ones being an exception won't survive a fire for any significant amount of time or the contents won't which is what you would really care about anyway.
@@ecobasetech4558 Yes sometimes that is true and I think mostly with imported safes. If they have it independantly verified it's more re assuring. The tell tale thing to look at is the weight of the safe.
I hate how they all massively exaggerate capacity. Yeah you could maybe get 36 handguns in it but rifles, no chance. LOL. The shotgun not fitting was really the buyers fault though, should have measured before buying. As for overall quality, it looks ok but you get what you pay for.
Gun safes are terrible for fire. Fire safes are horrible for burglary. That's why I have a concrete fire safe inside my biggest gun safe. Fireproof document bags are a no brainer for $20 each... LOL.
you're supposed to, to be able to run a electrical wire into the safe, the outside hole is already there for that, but you have to drill through the interior material.
If you watched that hole was already there with a plug, it's meant for running electrical into the safe, for lights and dehumidifier. I guess you have to drill through the inside material, and yeah they don't mention anything about it in the manual.
DO NOT CALL THAT A GUN SAFE. Best reviews come from thieves. That thing can be pried open ,with a 12" flat bar, in 1.5 minutes. You have a box to keep your kids out of. after mine was pried open, and the tool left behind, and the thousands of dollars I lost, and Winchesters demand for a police report for warranty. Pictures and serial number were not good enough. I wouldnt secure dog food in that painted box. the weight is sheetrock inside tinfoil.
This review is mine boggling. Guy buys a small safe and tries to to put large guns in it. That’s like me buying a mid sized truck and complaining I can’t tow my 12,000lb excavator with it.
Stay Away from Winchester Safes ! They fail , 2x times , The lkeypad beeds like a broken phone , does not work. Removed battery and now I have a $700 Safe with a small plated key ? Should have purchase a real safe
I purchased this exact safe on Black Friday. Got it all set up, and had no issues with it, The set up was easy, programming the lock worked the first time too. It was in the original, brand new box. Sounds like you purchased a "Floor Display Model". That will change the score for sure, I give mine a 5 Star rating. It is just what I need.
This video is mostly BS. I own this same safe. He acted like he couldn’t get in it. If he had access to the manual, the keys were in it to open it. As for the design, if he didn’t like it he shouldn’t have purchased it!
Exactly
It's not BS. He stated he liked it for what it was and was going to work for him. He did let people know that if the combo did not work to get in that most likely Tractor Supply changed the code. He also let people know you may not get any help moving the safe to the front of your truck or tie it down. What's with you? Did you not watch the entire thing? He also let people know if you were to call Winchester you may have a long wait in getting an answer and it may not be the one you were wanting.
it’s a $500 safe. If you want all the bells and whistles and top quality, go buy a safe at that price point. I love this safe. Is it the best? no. Does it work good enough? yes. For comparison. My father had safe from liberty safe and it was broken into as well. Everyone was away for the weekend and the bad guy had plenty of time. lock’s only keep honest people out.
This guy has no clue! This is a great safe
I just bought this safe and this is the first video I saw when I looked it up. I’m happy you say otherwise lol. This guy is rating the safe off customer service
I agree I’ve never seen a safe accommodate the number of guns on the label and also agree that going off CS.
I was told the TSC resets the code when they receive them as most use 1-2-3-4-5-6 as a generic code and didn’t want people getting hurt or locked in them.
I got one of these safes and immediately scrapped the interior parts and just built what I wanted out of 3/4 plywood. I basically kept the carpet on the walls, floor, ceiling and then built my own U shaped border with notches that would keep the rifles from falling over, no center divider. Then I built a shelf to support the provided shelf because it looked like it was about to buckle when I put even the tiniest bit of weight on it. I planned this from the time I looked at the safe from Tractor Supply. I use it for AR's mostly so I have a lot of room on the top shelf.
Dude is just a grumpy old man wanting to complain
I had the opposite experience with my local Tractor Supply store when we bought this safe. Our sales person was very helpful and went out of her way to facilitate the ordering and delivery of the safe that saved me approximately $200 in shipping and handling expense. The safe was delivered by a freight company into my garage as was promised. We purchased it on black Friday and there were some system issues happening and she got on the phone with TSC customer service to ensure that the order was received and all delivery arrangements were made properly. In addition, she also did some suggestions for accessories that would be helpful for lighting and humidity. I understand that this is a lower end safe but I would also state that it is a good value for what you are spending and is a good starting point for my son's needs.
Nice detailed video. I got the TS26-45 and so far I’m loving it.. you probably bought the display safe that’s why the default code was changed. When I bought my safe they had one of each model open on the floor and they had different codes set on them for display purposes, my safe was unopened and still in the box when I got it. I know it’s not the best safe out there but for my budget and what I have it should be solid.
I have this exact same safe. I fit 42 rifles in mine. Mix between shotguns, AR's AK's and bolt actions. I just used rifle rods. Also fit about 20 pistols using magnetic mounts on the side drilled into the sides, and pistol hangers. No optics though. I have those in a separate safe where I store all my ammo. I did replace the top shelf with carpeted 1/2" plywood with a cutout on the left side for my 2 longer rifles.
Great video review. I bought this Winchester model on sale for $499 at Tractor Supply. I agree it's not the best safe in the world, but for me it fits my needs. I had the 12 gun model that would not even hold 6 long guns and no real room for ammo at all. This 36 gun model has room for my long guns and all of my ammo. So I am happy with it. Thanks again.
I got the 24 gun safe from winchester, and it's absolutely perfect. Zero issues at all. You probably took the floor model.. my tractor supply changes the code on their floor models for security purposes. Mine also has the cut out in the top shelf already.
So let me get this right, you left the store with it, without making sure it would open
Thank you for your honest review! Enjoying the variety of videos you've posted recently
The front notches are great for scoped longarms. I have a 12ga slug gun and two hunting rifles, along with other non scoped arms. First safe, I have seen, that provided direct fit scope spots, from the factory, without needing special stand offs.
Bought this one on sale for organizing/overflow and ammo storage, it is nice for what it is. I wouldn't really call it a safe. No issues
Protip: If you're not buying a safe new in the box make sure you get the code from the seller and are able to open it before you leave 🤣🤣🤣
I just bought this safe today and upon initial inspection of it at Tractor Supply it was very clear that this was not a safe conducive to holding any amount of long guns. I have a collection of 40 handguns, one ar15, one defensive shotgun, and plenty of ammunition that I would like to store. For that purpose it will work just fine but I can't imagine someone buying this safe knowing that their primary use will be for multiple long guns, oh well
My friend finally gave up on his safe company and borrowed my angle grinder so he could gets his guns out. His guns were not damaged. Insurance is the best option, but most are like me who own family heirlooms that can't be replaced.
Wow great video Jack. Iv always wondered about those safes. Hope you have a nice Christmas. One thing I wondered was the hole you put in it for the cord would it need to be sealed with some kind of a fire safe sealer? I mean to help it during a fire. I think it needs any help it can get. Very honest review. The safe has its place. It would work for somebody that cant afford the better ones i guess. Hope the family is doing well. Be safe buddy.
I bought the same one...had an easy install no issues with mine... love the safe but plan on changing the lock to a mechanical one
BY the way mine has a rectangle hole in the top shelf for longer barrel guns
Mine has the same hole in the top shelf for long Guns.
I have a 12 gun Winchester safe now but need a bigger one and was looking at this same one. I agree the setup inside is not well thought out. I would get rid of everything in the middle and leave all the gun slots on the inside perimeter for long guns. And enough space for all my ammo.
Excellent review
hey im having the same issue... what was the default code?
I went looking for a secondary safe yesterday. Since I'm not too keen on Liberty anymore I was looking for another manufacturer. The Winchester TS36-45 safe is on sale at TSC right now for $499. Does this safe feel fairly cheaply made? Yes. But for the price point you're getting pretty much what you pay for.
I'm glad you actually got into it otherwise I am a locksmith Get ahold of me if you ever have any more problems.
Use a hole saw to drill a hole in the top shelf. There’s limitless placement (you can even hide it towards the back of the shelf)
Had to replace key pad after 4 years. Key pad stopped working and like you, 3 hours of poor customer service and looping recordings. I e changed battery with 2 different types.only to be told that I need new one.
I was not offered how to reset.
Great review!
It’s a great safe to customize because your not worried about breaking it because it was so cheep.
The 36 gun claim, as well as the 45 minute fire rating are less than realistic, yes. But they are no different than any other manufacturer. Metal shelf cleats and homemade plywood shelves are cheap and easy, if you don't like the ones it came with. The store that sold this unit failed by not telling the buyer how to access. I have this exact unit. My long shotguns (2) fit nicely just inside the door, on the sides of the safe, without affecting the shelves at all. The keypad failed after a couple months, but at least I had a key and could still get in. And after some back and forth emails to TSC/Winchester about the battery, they mailed me a new keypad at no charge, which has been working fine so far. Overall, very satisfied with this box, at this price point.
I own 2 of these, but I accidentally misplaced the keys that came with the second safe.. Will the keys from the first safe open the second one? Both are the same model.
I have two of the same safe but it doesn’t have the key option! One of the safes won’t open and when connecting Winchester I’m being told the person that deal with safe issues is out do to sickness!
Stand your tall shotgun inside the lip on the left of the door, problem solved. I’ve had a Winchester safe for 3-4 years now and it’s still in perfect working condition. My safe came with instructions for setting/resetting the code. Looks like you bought a floor model, mine came in a box new. These aren’t the best by far but these are much better than most in price range imo. Money wasn’t an object I still wouldn’t buy a Liberty, I’d get a custom safe, they aren’t that much more.
This is exactly what I do with my long barreled shotguns, Mosin, etc.
Worked perfect for me
Anyone who like this safe will eventually hate it. You’ll see. Hopefully it’s not when your life is on the line
The 24 gun safe seems to be more practical. The idea that 36 guns can fit in yours is insane. The 24 gun safe seems to be more realistic in their rating, if not quite 24. My needs are a safe that will keep casual home burglars from getting any guns, if they get in while I am not home. Nobody wants to attempt to haul a 350 pound safe they happened to come across because they are not equipped for it, unless they knew about it ahead of time, and no one will know ahead of time. I don't advertise. With this in mind, the 24 gun safe will fit my needs just fine. It has a cut-out in the top shelf already, which will work well for my 52 1/2 inch long Schmidt Rubin, without the bayonet attached. ;)
Not 1 ounce of patience in this mellow dramatic grumpy guy.
Have libertys, own two of this exact safe, these safes are great fit the price. You get what you pay for, this is what life is.
If you want it the way you want it, you have to customize it.
“I don’t know how my long shotgun will fit” 9yo me in the 80’s completely disassembling every gun, car, tractor, mower, tv we owned. Your a grown man allegedly, UNSCREW THE BARREL🤦♂️
I’m of the opinion that no gun safe is perfect. Yes some are better then others. Mine came just as the Manuel said code wise. Had zero problems. While I’m not convinced of 36 guns, I think it also depends on what firearms your putting into it. Plastic clips can be upgraded although not by Winchester. Same with the shelves. While I value your opinion, based on the points you talked about it’s completely subjective.
I CURRENTLY OWN A TS-12=LESS THAN 2YRS OLD DIGITAL KEYPAD REPLACEMENT ALREADY.
This safe has a standard lock bolt pattern. You can replace the crap lock with a quality lock form S&G or LaGard.
Amsec, Vault Pro, or Browning Platinum.
Only thing that isn’t subjective would be the supposed fire rating.
Well, was going to get one this week and won't be now.
CVS treats me the same way ...
How hard was it to mount to the floor?
The only mishap with mines was setting a new code but that was my fault. I misunderstood the directions but after the 6th try or so or about an hour later i finally realized my mistake granted i was a several beers in lol. For the price I'm not complaining.
Well you did buy a cheap safe in a box store. I have one but atleast it has a steel plate door. The body is 12 gage (.107") weight empty 500lbs. It's a step better than that but not a whole lot. That one is probably 14 gage (.074") most are now. I use mine for guns but I'm looking for a,T-30
It was all about a little wait and the right code, c'mon man. I don't understand why they wouldn't include it in their manual.
I had a kind of similar situation except I found out about their code change in the store. Asked them why they changed the codes. They told me they change it so kids don't unlock and lock up their siblings in the safes. Don't know if that is true but that's what the associate told me. Makes sense and probably a liability reason.
We all know when you buy crap you get crap!
Bought one today, mine has a cutout in the top shelf for longer guns. The shelf brackets are junk!’
did yours come with a back up key? If it did what did it look like?
Mine did. It actually came with 3, two with the manual, and one taped to the inside lip of the door, that I discovered when I put LED strip lights in it. It looks like what we used to call a coke machine key...round.
Safes are a complete waste. First off if someone wants in and they have the time THEY WILL GET IN. So the difference between a 600 dollar safe and a 4,000 safe is moot. Fire Ratings forget it. If you have super valuable things go to a bank. For guns this Winchester will do the trick.
I cut the right side to look like the left side, works much better to store ARs and short rifles.
put a hole in the top shelf. fit barrel in.
Did you forget to ask what the code is when u bought it?
Correct, no way 36 long guns will fit. I was only able to comfortably get 21 in. But like you, I wasn't expecting to be able to get 36 to begin with.
I don't trust any safe to keep firearms safe in any fire. It a place burns down you will have fire damage even in a safe if it's a bad fire. I am thinking about getting one of these for my barn at my farm to keep the guns in we hunt the farm with. A metal building what can go wrong? Not crazy about the set up and may need to modify for scoped rifles but we will see when we get there. Nice video.
it says directly in the manual to not call Winchester about any issues about the safe and instead call the place you bought it from TS Winchester doesn't even make these.
023160 looks like it was it
I have this safe and I thought WOW I finally have one big enough for all my weapons and my jewelry!! The problem with this safe is that you can get into this safe without a combination or a default code! My husband wanted into it to get to something of mine and I was SHOCKED TO FIND PUT THIS SAFE WAS NOT BURGLAR PROOF! Twist the lock as though you are going to put in a battery and were the ribbon is move it slightly and put a clothes hanger end inside the slot and move it until it catches and the door opens right up!! I fixed this problem with silicone!! But I think you could take the back off the door and put in a metal plate!! I’m very upset that this safe is so easy to break into!!
I am not sure why you didn't open it up BEFORE you moved into garage😂
My Liberty is set up exactly how your Winchester is. No way I can get 64 rifles in it.
I t took out all the boards and stack my guns upright. If you need protection use gun socks
I have cheap safes and expensive safes. I just rip out everything with cheap safes and make my own shelves. So much better for $100 in MDF and carpet.
Centurions are on sale $100-$400 off right now!!!!!!
I'm thinking about getting a liberty safe. Great review and good honest information.
Isn't liberty the company that was letting the FBI get into people's private property
i just bought one ity a 20 gun safe in black..
HAM Radio or CB
What makes it not a safe?
The sheet metal wrap
So the kids won’t open it . U should have been given code . My supply store did
I literally just ordered this safe yesterday…anyway I can get that default code just in case?
Did you ever get the code? Just picked one of these up today and I'm having the same damn problem.
@@akhero47 no fortunately mine functioned fine and the regular 123456 worked for me
@@akhero47 I visited a TCS store today and I used 123456 on both the Winchester models opened right up.
@Wyant05 I got it figured out gentlemen. Thank you for the replies though. Turns out my local TSC changes the code to 000{store number}.
I won't buy any gun safe with less than an hour of fire rating. P.S., if you are keeping documents in a Gun safe put them in a sentry fire box and then put that into the safe. With the highest fire rating you can afford.
I've heard/read that fire ratings on these things is just marketing BS and most safes; with maybe the most expensive ones being an exception won't survive a fire for any significant amount of time or the contents won't which is what you would really care about anyway.
@@ecobasetech4558 Yes sometimes that is true and I think mostly with imported safes. If they have it independantly verified it's more re assuring. The tell tale thing to look at is the weight of the safe.
I guess, this is why it only cost a couple of hundred bucks....
Uh, it was $650 on sale, more than a couple hundred bucks.
I hate how they all massively exaggerate capacity. Yeah you could maybe get 36 handguns in it but rifles, no chance. LOL. The shotgun not fitting was really the buyers fault though, should have measured before buying. As for overall quality, it looks ok but you get what you pay for.
Gun safes are terrible for fire.
Fire safes are horrible for burglary.
That's why I have a concrete fire safe inside my biggest gun safe.
Fireproof document bags are a no brainer for $20 each...
LOL.
Once he started drilling through the safe. That convinced me to not buy this safe.
you're supposed to, to be able to run a electrical wire into the safe, the outside hole is already there for that, but you have to drill through the interior material.
Whats the default code? I got one coming tomorrow so i mad need it
Default is 123456
So tell me mate why can't you twist off the combination piece and use the key us blokes do that all time mate
Does anyone know how many keys come with this model safe?
Mine came with 3. Two were with the manual, and one was taped to the inside lip of the door. I discovered this when I put lights in it.
I got two.
By drilling holes through that outside you ruined any heat resistances it had by putting a fault point on the safe, just saying 🤷♂️
It has a a hole already. He just drilled through the cardboard inside.
If you watched that hole was already there with a plug, it's meant for running electrical into the safe, for lights and dehumidifier. I guess you have to drill through the inside material, and yeah they don't mention anything about it in the manual.
There’s a whole a$$ slot in the upper shelf specifically for longer guns such as your shotgun. Do better.
DO NOT CALL THAT A GUN SAFE. Best reviews come from thieves. That thing can be pried open ,with a 12" flat bar, in 1.5 minutes. You have a box to keep your kids out of. after mine was pried open, and the tool left behind, and the thousands of dollars I lost, and Winchesters demand for a police report for warranty. Pictures and serial number were not good enough. I wouldnt secure dog food in that painted box. the weight is sheetrock inside tinfoil.
This review is mine boggling. Guy buys a small safe and tries to to put large guns in it. That’s like me buying a mid sized truck and complaining I can’t tow my 12,000lb excavator with it.
A safe claiming to have a gun capacity of 36 doesn't sounds small to me.
Big entitled boomer energy.
Go get that more expensive safe and stop crying. I have this safe. U get what u pay 4. I'm good with mine. Geeeeez.
It's a cheap safe, what did you expect? You act like you weren't allowed to look at it before you bought it.
Stay Away from Winchester Safes ! They fail , 2x times , The lkeypad beeds like a broken phone , does not work. Removed battery and now I have a $700 Safe with a small plated key ? Should have purchase a real safe
U complain about nothing tht makes sense the safe is great
If your going.crap on it.why even do a review