We spent a day with our business partner, Poonai, who helps fuel our aircraft at JFK. Poonai and his team always make sure we have gas, which, in this case, is a good thing!
I absolutely love what I do! Have had a chance to talk to some amazing pilots who've thanked me on the stupid hot days and the rainy ones. Small things like that make this job the best I've had ever.
Hey man I'm thinking about applying here in Utah, while its fueling you just kind of hang out while its fueling or do you have to watch for things\other responsibilities?
@@hallvarddalen1502 it depends if we're using a tanker which is a truck that we use and then if we're using a hydrant cart flow rates usually go between 290 and 330
I was a fueler at KBUF and I always liked JetBlue because they were so straight forward. I would pull up, check the fuel panel if there were 12,000 pounds I would just go confirm the reading and that was that. If it was less than I knew I was adding fuel. THe worst thing about it, we had a 20' ladder that I had to climb to hook up the hose. It was always fun climbing the ladder with one hand and dragging that hose up.
Mamba Max That would also be my dream job, already working on that by having flight lessons building up my flight hours for when I’m 16 and test for my pilots license.
My Job for JetBlue Is a pilot! I always go on jetBlue from new york to santo domingo for vacation. And when I made it to JFK airport. I see that perfectly blue little airplane.
I work line service at a medium traffic FBO. Fueling jet is always fun and satisfying. Idk what it is about it whether it’s filling single point or what.
Hey Nicholas i hope you can help me do you need to be good with numbers(math)? I got offered a job interview but I’m bad with numbers and math and that’s holding me from taking it
@@noname9958 sorry for the late reply but not really. All you need is basic addition and multiplication. A little bit of division too. I do recommend having a good number memory too. Example a king air has 4 tanks, sometimes pilots want something different in all 4 tanks. At least our based king air N21BD usually wants outboards topped and inboards 50 or something. I hope you find this useful and here it is 2 weeks later, I hope you have the job.
It's a 5 digit counter not 4 that's 0299X gallons and aircraft don't refill from empty or to completely full just enough for the flight plus a reserve to save weight and fuel burn
I hadn't seen your comment, but basically that's what I said above. "At minute 1:48 they show the gallon counter at 95 gallons and counting. Notice the two zeros to the left of the 95. Then at 2:25, you see Poonai writing down the final gallons. It looks that is about 292 gallons total - that's it. 292 gallons. Notice only one zero left to the left of the number. Let that sink in. Go back to minute 2:00 and it's where they tell us they need more than 6,500 gallons of fuel for the next flight, which will fill 325 SUVs gas tanks. Can you spot the lie?"
@@maretop2002 My guy this is how it works. The hydrant truck, tanker, or hydrant cart dispenses the fuel and is metered in either Gallons or Liters. The aircraft fueling panel will display the fuel on board as Pounds or Kilos. So lets say the Pilot wants 30,000 pounds of fuel, noted as (30.0). You open up the panel and see how much fuel is on board already. Lets say the total is reading (10.0). That's 10,000 pounds of fuel on board. So quick math is 30.0 - 10.0 = 20.0 or 20,000 pounds of fuel you have to add to get to target fuel. if you want to know ballpark how many gallons that is take 20.0 divide by 6.7 (20.0/6.7) = 2985 Gallons of fuel This A320 you can set the fuel load in the panel and the computer automatically starts balancing out all the tanks. You can fit about 6,400-7,190 total gallons in the fuel tanks. So about 14,000 pounds (2000 gallons) or so in EACH wing and the rest goes into the center tank. So yeah, aircraft are all about weight, that's why the fuel panel shows weight (pounds) and NOT volume (gallons). BUT for accounting and billing the customer is billed by the gallon, so that's why the trucks have meters. Also, the wing structure is actually quite HUGE. Don't let the thinness fool you. If you get in under the wing you can see fuel the tank wall. Its large enough on this aircraft that a human can crawl into the tank area (tank divers) for repairs. Hope this answers your questions.
@@maretop2002 Lol you were surely drunk when you wrote that. Or just showed your trust issues if you’d think they’d lie about such an important piece of info on a public platform.
I used to fuel for Consolidated in Toronto at Pearson Intl (YYZ). The money was crap but it was great fun while it lasted. I fueled the first 777s in Toronto from BA, and got to fuel 747's from Lufthansa and Korean Air as well as the last from Air Canada. Also got my hands on the old DC-9s and a few odd aircraft here and there. Airside-access meant some great picture opportunities as well! But as simple a job as it is, once you get the hang of it, it felt great to take a responsible part in the world of commercial aviation. These days tho, contracts are given to the lowest bidders so that pay rates probably are at rock-bottom. Still, it's pretty exciting while it lasts and getting hands-on with big-time aircraft is really special. It's certainly easier on the body than loading bags!
Agreed! Lots of fun but not a lot of pay. Used to fuel at YYC, winter sucked a lot! Summer was amazing. I had a laugh at the "8-14" flights a day. HAHAHAHA We would do 14-30 flights a day(12 hour shift for the high numbers). Shit, we used to start our shift with a 8-12 flight tanker run... If you only did wide bodies/overseas flights you might be at 8-14 mark..
Im a curious observer from the good ole US of A. I have extensively traveling background flying big metalic birds. In most major airports, I see either one oil tanker or I see a underground tanker fueling these big birds. For a Airbus A380 with some 85000 gallons capacity, that means we need about 9-10 Oil Tanker trucks to fuel the plane with jet fuel? According to my calculations, it will take many hours to refuel ONE plane. How is this possible? Most of these jumbo jets land and take off for another transoceanic flight in less than 3 hours from landing to take off. So, my aircraft experts, how on earth is this possible? 85000 gallons of fuel = About 550,000 pounds of Fuel on a roughtly 800000 empty aircraft before we add passenger/cargo on top. Something not adding up guys!!!
funny thing is, this so called "sensible" people who think airplanes run on compressed air know nothing practical about the job!!! This isn't earth science. If you want to know, go to the airport and see for yourself what they take in. If you see liquid fuel and you're still convinced it's a hoax, then you got yourself in a hopeless situation
I like that they keep the fueling process simple, BUT Airbuses are the slowest to take on fuel. Boeings fuel so much quicker. Switch to Boeing's and JB wouldn't have so many delays out of Tampa. It'd be even nicer if JB invested in a portable scanner system like Delta has so fuelers can get all their info right in their driver seat prior to fueling and then upload departure fuel info. Work smarter, not harder.
we use I pads and EffectiveFBO. fuel load shows AC# Jet A + or -- or 100LL for recips CSR's take the order, upload it to the system fueler inputs meter #s and gallons pumped for records and billing. fuel info also has notes if needed. works fairly well.
Strange the fuel flow on a single Port Is max 300 gallons per minute, larger jets with double Port max 600 GPM, each Wing has a refueling point (single or double) the only way to pump 600 GPM in a a320 Is to use two fuelers at the same time, and A380 can be refilled up to 1200 GPM in the same manner
Fueled airlines for 4 years at kbuf... Job sucks... Super hot in summer and ice cold in winter...for minimum wage...the old dc-9a are worst...gauges always inop
Me too. Got accused of causing a delay for USAir and got yelled at by Strang. Until I showed him that I was doing support equipment that day. Then he was like, are you sure? No here is the work sheet that I filled out and signed and the supervisor signed. Lots of suckups and kiss asses there.
They are not "small" by which I think your pea brain meant thin. Those wheels are around 48" in diameter(rim and tire). The wing root on that a320 is about 36" thick maybe more. Here's a link to the cross section of the a380 wing. Yes they are that thick, that wide, and that long. www.quora.com/Where-is-fuel-in-a-passenger-aircraft-stored-and-what-is-the-typical-capacity
you know weight from numbers, this pea brain has worked in constructions with a tower crane so i know about weights. not just from papers like you, i have experience with weights. i'm also a stud. i have also driven a tractor with up to 20 tons behind me. if there is 320 000 liter kerosene in an A380 that's a weight of 256 000 kg into the wings. how many cars can we stack on an airplane without fuel?
Again, the wings are not thin nor weak. If you can't understand that steel and aluminum as well as other structural metals can have different properties to include strengths and yields then you are seriously lacking for this discussion.
+ 225degrees just like a tire of an A380 can carry 25 tons, the wings are full of liquid. no way there is liquid into the wings. do you understand how much movement there would be in the tanks? to understand this, try an m³ tank of water on a trailer behind a car. drive with a full tank, with a half full tank, and an empty tank and notice the force. now imagine the 3th dimension with this, going up and down. it's just a big scam. and that's how an airplane can float after take off "2009: Airplane crash-lands into Hudson River; all aboard reported safe" it made a safe landing after takeoff. full of fuel but the wings floated. so the ultra strong material the wings are made of, can also float? what can't the wings do?
Where his safety glasses at? Anyways I do this same job at O'hare, sometimes I'm fueling jet Blues, sometimes I'm fueling commuters and sometimes I'm fueling international planes.
Can anyone tell me what it’s like being an aircraft fueler. I have an interview tomorrow for this job but I’m a chem major in a community college and have no idea what I’m getting myself into. I want to be educated before accepting the job.
I just entered the industry and noticed the difference between fuel meter of the airplane and the fuel truck when refueling. Mostly the number on the truck is higher. Is this normal or the airline is paying for less ! Hope someone with experience can answer :)
Fuel on the truck is measured in gallons and on the aircraft in pounds or kilograms due to the fuel density expanding and contracting with the temperatures.
I'm a aircraft fueler in the us army I mostly fuel blackhawk helicopters and ch47 chinooks (the crew cheef does most work for ch47s) but this job isnt hard just dont get too consistent because you are putting other lives at risk if you half ass a job. From my understanding if a plane goes down the first thing they look at is the fuel and if the plane went down because the fuel is commingled (*aviation fuel term for contaminated*) you will do prison time. I can answer most questions if you have any about fueling day in and out procedures I'm sure it isn't different from conventional aircraft fueling.
A gallon of JetA weighs 6.66lbs www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&ei=R0o3XtzGBcOa_Qa7uYSQCA&q=how+much+does+1+gallon+of+jet+a+weigh&oq=how+much+does+1+gallon+of+jetA+&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.0i22i30l2j33i160j33i299l3.3473.7009..8845...0.1..0.228.954.3j4j1......0....1.........0i71j41j0.AcmxYNDVZqQ
people say if you work around the aircraft you are not as nearly smart as working on the aircraft, that's not true, they need to be good at math in order to supply the aircraft with the correct amount of fuel.
Not true lol they tell us the amount and we just select the numbers on the plane fuel panel and pump. JetBlue is fully automatic fueling at JFK, they dont allow us to manually fuel.
Russian Bot we have worse ones now, they think an airplane uses no jet fuel at all, and runs on either compressed air, or perpetual motion, or anti gravity(I suppose they don't have a consensus)
It pays more than retail and other such things. It really depends on the union you'll be under, if you're looking just for a career I would honestly go into something like local or OTR trucking with a CDL. Fueling isn't a horrible paying job but IMO there are other things just about as easy to get into that have a better long term outlook even if they're more demanding, but again it depends on your union. Waiters and waitresses can make even more than both with tips(seriously, know them) but honestly you couldn't pay me 100k to do that job
Any tips on connecting the single point nozzle to the air bus I cannot lift it or I am do it improperly .. second day on the job and this is the only thing that's getting me nervous come time for my audit 😭
Here's a tip. Grab the hose with your left hand well done from the nozzle. When you do this bend your knees. Pinch the hose with your left hand against your body and guide the nozzle with your right hand(reverse the hands if you're a lefty). When you stand up you will use your legs instead of your arms to lift the hose, guide and connect with the right hand. If your fuel truck has a basket get it up nice and close to the wing so you're ducking your head, this will ensure that when you stand up with the hose you will absolutely meet the plane.
Im suprised to see this airbus with a belly panel, i fuel at msp and every single a319-a321 ive fueled has thr panel on the wing, the a330 has a belly panel tho
@@sexigrande1792 duh. its just everybody says that the fuel is mainly in the wings. but when I try to check how much fuel the aircraft can carry (in total not only in wings) usually it does not add up with the drawings (schematics). also on the schematics the wings are always portrayed way thicker than irl. I always found it odd that you can check how much coil a steam engined ship or diesel diesel engined ship can carry and how much they need etc and I'm not even talking about cars and trucks, but with airplanes it's all shrouded in mystery.
@@donfanto1 I misread that. this is an A380 wingwww.deeside.com/airbus-could-be-about-to-give-update-on-a380-shutdown-plans/ those are massive areas for fuel. What schematics are you referring to? Manufacturer drawings and aircraft publications which give measurements down to thousands of an inch wouldn’t be as accessible to the public( to my knowledge though I don’t research it) especially military aircraft, that would be a given. I did lots of fuel tank work when I was younger on military aircraft comparable to a 737 in size. Those aircraft could hold 60k pounds total…4 wing tanks and two centre wing tanks. Those wings were tiny compared to large aircraft.
@@sexigrande1792 I know but supposedly A380 can carry up to 315 000+ litres of fuel. on average as I was able to find out it was something like 250 000+.but it would vary. So I roughly know how much it is in volume cuz I used to work in a warehouse where we were storing building materials. anyhow I just googled how but is 315 000 litres in volume (like a visual representation) and it's huge. most common displacement size for the tanks is 10 000 litres. now imagine 31.5 of those and its just for the fuel. so where does everything else go? cargo? hydraulics? all sorts of pumps and pipes? passenger space? all I'm saying is that those numbers don't quite add up and I understand if we were talking about military stuff, but those are just aircrafts of all shapes and sizes. either I'm missing a 0 in every single equation that I do or there is something that is fucky.
@@donfanto1 I’d say off the top off my head 90% of the wings itself can hold fuel. In order to calculate the volume you need the measurements of the wing etc. But I think they have tanks in the tail as well. But if you want to talk about close approximations don’t you think someone who services on a hands on level notice if the figures were nowhere near the manufacturers specs? Even when they’re designed technical documents would have all the volumes. I don’t think they rarely if ever fly with max fuel capacity anyway.
How do airlines pay for the Fuel they need to fly to the destination Is it like at a Gas pump when we fill up are personal vehicles or work vehicles where they pay for the fuel ahead of time
No its all contracted out. Every couple of years a tender will come out for an airline and different refuelling companies will bid on it and whichever company offers fuel for the cheapest amount wins the contract. I'm not in management at the company I work for but I would imagine at the end of the month the total sales will be sent to the customer and once they review the bill for the whole month and are satisfied with it then they would send payment to the fuel provider.
That's called the dead man switch, he must hold it for the truck to pump the fuel. If he lets go the truck will automatically stop pumping fuel, it's a safety device it works off of compressed air activating the valve
Hmmm... that's wierd. Why, when you tell us how much liquid fuel he's putting in, do you show him standing there, monitoring the gauges (for forty alleged minutes, supposedly) WHILE "FILLING IT UP", with a green and red AIR HOSE in his hand? Could it be that he is really filling it up with compressed air, which is waaaaaaaay cheaper than liquid fuel, isn't it?
The red and green lines are for the deadman switch. One is using compressed air to activate the safety valve and the other is the sensing line that feeds pressure data to the truck/cart. Again, if you haven't done the job you should probably shut the fuck up.
Kristan, don't be lame. Stop being a millennial for a second and think of what you were duped into. A gas turbine absolutely MUST HAVE fuel to run whether its natural gas or liquid fuel to combust. That 3'' hose is what puts the fuel in the wing. Stop it at 2:06 to see the fuel fitting. Please don't fall for misinformation from YouBoob idiots. I was an Engineer for General Electric and worked with gas turbines for many years. If you want to stop one, cut the fuel. Simple as that.
not that I'm aware of, im a refueller here at my local FBO and all I needed was my tractor trailer license and multi axle vehicle license to drive the fuel trucks (we don't use hydrant trucks like you see in this video our trucks carry the fuel on them) which I didn't have so they let me use their trucks for my road tests. I think each company is going to have their own training program that you would have to do upon hiring.
my FBO has a video training course. forget the name but it's standardized nationally. goes over everything related to line service. towing, fueling, dealing w/ customers, etc, etc, etc. no cost to the employee. mostly we deal w/ biz jets but also airliners, we had a Antonov 124 last couple of weeks. they all use single point nozzles just some have programmable fuel panels.
I can't speak for every major airport, but I know that for Toronto Pearson there is a direct pipeline running from the Imperial Oil refinery in Nanticoke to the airport. Otherwise it's trucked in like any other fuel station.
Joel Houghton thank you! I was thinking about the trucking fuel in thing, but from what I’ve seen and hear as far as how much fuel these planes use, you would think they would have a constant flow nonstop of tankers driving through dropping fuel.
That is exactly what happens. At YYC there's anywhre from 50-80 tankers a day. YYC also has a direct pipeline from the refinery in Edmonton. Storage on site at YYC is a little over 16 million litres. Average daily consumption is around 1.8 million litres.
Lies. You're telling us that all the fuel was pumped in such short space of time in an aluminum wing that fast? Tell us it takes a little fuel and once airborne air does the rest
It sure makes one wonder. All that alleged liquid "gas" and not a spill or drop of fuel escapes? And these "refuelers" don't seem affected by vapor or.... (no masks), and wearing gloves that would not protect their skin from "gas" if any were to leak. As if it were more like liquid nitrogen, oxygen or hydrogen. 🤔
baba duke There are leaks from the hoses. He is using the wrong gloves that are not issued by the company. We are issued chemical-resistant gloves. We’re only affected if you’re exposed to it excessively, like straight up purposely inhale that shit lol. It can cause cancer
A gallon of JetA weighs 6.66lbs www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&ei=R0o3XtzGBcOa_Qa7uYSQCA&q=how+much+does+1+gallon+of+jet+a+weigh&oq=how+much+does+1+gallon+of+jetA+&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.0i22i30l2j33i160j33i299l3.3473.7009..8845...0.1..0.228.954.3j4j1......0....1.........0i71j41j0.AcmxYNDVZqQ
Yeah, that's why planes catch fire when they crash, because air is flammable. Try lighting a match in your room and see if the air in your room bursts into flames. Moron!
You don't need any experience as all the training is given to you. To get the job what you need are connections and a VERY HIGH seniority due to fucking unions. Fuck unions.
Jets came along in the 1950s. That's a hell of long time to hold onto the wrong terminology. I don't know whether anyone's ever mistaken fuelled a turbine engine with Avgas, but the opposite has certainly happened, with serious consequeces.
Sylvia Else try Red Indians, it's more than 400 years to realize Native Americans vs Red Indians. Indians are from Asia, just because the first guy confused Americans with Asians, you guys still call the same.
nice video in my case is diferent we used the truck only in air canada, air berlin cuz we have carts in all gates and also the fuel slip is diferent i am in swissport fueling services in RSW AIRPORT. god bless guys.
I absolutely love what I do! Have had a chance to talk to some amazing pilots who've thanked me on the stupid hot days and the rainy ones. Small things like that make this job the best I've had ever.
What is the typical flow rate?
Can I start at 18?
Hey man I'm thinking about applying here in Utah, while its fueling you just kind of hang out while its fueling or do you have to watch for things\other responsibilities?
@@hallvarddalen1502 it depends if we're using a tanker which is a truck that we use and then if we're using a hydrant cart flow rates usually go between 290 and 330
@@qigongkylar944 yeah we use trucks so you have to watch the airplane fueling panel on how much you have to put in it or you will over fuel
You should do a day in the life of a Ramp Agent, people don't really see what happens under the wing and what we have to deal with on a daily basis!
Mets747 exactly cause the type of work we do can be tough.
That’s a great idea. I would love to see what it is like for those guys, marshalers, baggage handlers, push back drivers.
They neglected to show the belt loader parked on the pit and everyone walks away 🤬
@@elsathedemonwolf1035 LOL FACTS
I Have also worked as a ramp agent baggage handler in aircraft marshaler so I get to see it from both sides I don’t know which ones worse lol
I was a fueler at KBUF and I always liked JetBlue because they were so straight forward. I would pull up, check the fuel panel if there were 12,000 pounds I would just go confirm the reading and that was that. If it was less than I knew I was adding fuel. THe worst thing about it, we had a 20' ladder that I had to climb to hook up the hose. It was always fun climbing the ladder with one hand and dragging that hose up.
It's all fun and games until you're dragging that single point up a ladder in 20-30 mph winds and freezing your nips off.
One hand climbing a ladder in perfect weather doesn't sound fun much less in scary weather.
Is it a good job? What qualifications do you need?
@@Sk6088 it's a great job
@@jonfitz8280 what qualifications do you need?
This would make a good series. Day in the life of a...
Pilot (my dream job for jetblue)
Ramp agent
Mechanic
Etc
Mamba Max That would also be my dream job, already working on that by having flight lessons building up my flight hours for when I’m 16 and test for my pilots license.
hey its been 7 years, are you a pilot yet?
I used to love fueling the SDQ flights. I used to say to myself one day I'mma live out there
My Job for JetBlue Is a pilot! I always go on jetBlue from new york to santo domingo for vacation. And when I made it to JFK airport. I see that perfectly blue little airplane.
So many safety protocols in place because of prior errors... scary
>our business partner
aka, our underpaid contractor
With no pension, benefits or share options lol
Driving them fuel trucks in the summertime ain’t no fun lol
Tell me about it, I am a Fueler at DFW, getting an old truck with no AC at the world’s 3rd busiest airport in 100+ temperatures takes a lot out of you
Oh God please please let me do this job correctly. Don't let me mess up this opportunity.
howd it go boss
Thank you for posting this!
I work line service at a medium traffic FBO. Fueling jet is always fun and satisfying. Idk what it is about it whether it’s filling single point or what.
Hey Nicholas i hope you can help me do you need to be good with numbers(math)? I got offered a job interview but I’m bad with numbers and math and that’s holding me from taking it
@@noname9958 sorry for the late reply but not really. All you need is basic addition and multiplication. A little bit of division too. I do recommend having a good number memory too. Example a king air has 4 tanks, sometimes pilots want something different in all 4 tanks. At least our based king air N21BD usually wants outboards topped and inboards 50 or something. I hope you find this useful and here it is 2 weeks later, I hope you have the job.
Why did he only put 299 gallons of fuel in it when they said it takes 6500?
It's a 5 digit counter not 4 that's 0299X gallons and aircraft don't refill from empty or to completely full just enough for the flight plus a reserve to save weight and fuel burn
Its a great piece proaganda this film. Very satisfying to the masses.
I hadn't seen your comment, but basically that's what I said above. "At minute 1:48 they show the gallon counter at 95 gallons and counting. Notice the two zeros to the left of the 95. Then at 2:25, you see Poonai writing down the final gallons. It looks that is about 292 gallons total - that's it. 292 gallons. Notice only one zero left to the left of the number. Let that sink in. Go back to minute 2:00 and it's where they tell us they need more than 6,500 gallons of fuel for the next flight, which will fill 325 SUVs gas tanks. Can you spot the lie?"
@@maretop2002
My guy this is how it works.
The hydrant truck, tanker, or hydrant cart dispenses the fuel and is metered in either Gallons or Liters. The aircraft fueling panel will display the fuel on board as Pounds or Kilos.
So lets say the Pilot wants 30,000 pounds of fuel, noted as (30.0). You open up the panel and see how much fuel is on board already. Lets say the total is reading (10.0). That's 10,000 pounds of fuel on board.
So quick math is 30.0 - 10.0 = 20.0 or 20,000 pounds of fuel you have to add to get to target fuel. if you want to know ballpark how many gallons that is take 20.0 divide by 6.7 (20.0/6.7) = 2985 Gallons of fuel
This A320 you can set the fuel load in the panel and the computer automatically starts balancing out all the tanks. You can fit about 6,400-7,190 total gallons in the fuel tanks. So about 14,000 pounds (2000 gallons) or so in EACH wing and the rest goes into the center tank.
So yeah, aircraft are all about weight, that's why the fuel panel shows weight (pounds) and NOT volume (gallons). BUT for accounting and billing the customer is billed by the gallon, so that's why the trucks have meters.
Also, the wing structure is actually quite HUGE. Don't let the thinness fool you. If you get in under the wing you can see fuel the tank wall. Its large enough on this aircraft that a human can crawl into the tank area (tank divers) for repairs.
Hope this answers your questions.
@@maretop2002 Lol you were surely drunk when you wrote that. Or just showed your trust issues if you’d think they’d lie about such an important piece of info on a public platform.
If I'm not mistaken I fueled this very same aircraft. Tail #648 PIT to FLL Fueler for ASIG at Pittsburgh International.
Wow what a coincidence
How many gallons did you fuel?
This is awesome. I've always wondered about this.
Seems like if the wings were full, it would make the plane too heavy and when the wings adjust, nobody feels all that weight sloshing around?
Question i have fueled in the oilfield. were is the safety googles aprons and rubber gloves?
Fredrick West company doesn’t issue goggles or aprons, only rubber gloves
I used to fuel for Consolidated in Toronto at Pearson Intl (YYZ). The money was crap but it was great fun while it lasted. I fueled the first 777s in Toronto from BA, and got to fuel 747's from Lufthansa and Korean Air as well as the last from Air Canada. Also got my hands on the old DC-9s and a few odd aircraft here and there. Airside-access meant some great picture opportunities as well! But as simple a job as it is, once you get the hang of it, it felt great to take a responsible part in the world of commercial aviation. These days tho, contracts are given to the lowest bidders so that pay rates probably are at rock-bottom. Still, it's pretty exciting while it lasts and getting hands-on with big-time aircraft is really special. It's certainly easier on the body than loading bags!
I'm currently at ASIG (who took over from consolidated) you're certainly correct about the lowest bidder and pay rate comment....
Agreed! Lots of fun but not a lot of pay. Used to fuel at YYC, winter sucked a lot! Summer was amazing. I had a laugh at the "8-14" flights a day. HAHAHAHA We would do 14-30 flights a day(12 hour shift for the high numbers). Shit, we used to start our shift with a 8-12 flight tanker run... If you only did wide bodies/overseas flights you might be at 8-14 mark..
How much was all you people's pays?
They say that airplanes run on air fuel is a HOX
Hoax
There was a typo in the video. A gallon of Jet-A weighs approximately 6.7 pounds, not 6-7.
So how much do you pay for the worker JetBlue ?
Im a curious observer from the good ole US of A. I have extensively traveling background flying big metalic birds. In most major airports, I see either one oil tanker or I see a underground tanker fueling these big birds. For a Airbus A380 with some 85000 gallons capacity, that means we need about 9-10 Oil Tanker trucks to fuel the plane with jet fuel? According to my calculations, it will take many hours to refuel ONE plane. How is this possible? Most of these jumbo jets land and take off for another transoceanic flight in less than 3 hours from landing to take off. So, my aircraft experts, how on earth is this possible?
85000 gallons of fuel = About 550,000 pounds of Fuel on a roughtly 800000 empty aircraft before we add passenger/cargo on top. Something not adding up guys!!!
funny thing is, this so called "sensible" people who think airplanes run on compressed air know nothing practical about the job!!! This isn't earth science. If you want to know, go to the airport and see for yourself what they take in. If you see liquid fuel and you're still convinced it's a hoax, then you got yourself in a hopeless situation
no gogles, gloves and bump cap?
It OK he has a hivis vest he'll be fine
Nobody needs stairs to fuel an embrair?
Moto X3M music still goes hard 🔥🔥🔥
I like that they keep the fueling process simple, BUT Airbuses are the slowest to take on fuel. Boeings fuel so much quicker. Switch to Boeing's and JB wouldn't have so many delays out of Tampa. It'd be even nicer if JB invested in a portable scanner system like Delta has so fuelers can get all their info right in their driver seat prior to fueling and then upload departure fuel info. Work smarter, not harder.
we use I pads and EffectiveFBO. fuel load shows AC# Jet A + or -- or 100LL for recips CSR's take the order, upload it to the system fueler inputs meter #s and gallons pumped for records and billing. fuel info also has notes if needed. works fairly well.
YES!! Airbus are slow slow slow to fuel.
Strange the fuel flow on a single Port Is max 300 gallons per minute, larger jets with double Port max 600 GPM, each Wing has a refueling point (single or double) the only way to pump 600 GPM in a a320 Is to use two fuelers at the same time, and A380 can be refilled up to 1200 GPM in the same manner
Yeah let's see the life of a tanker driver. Where your break room is your truck!
How was that I was thinking about taking a tanker jet A hauler job in Alabama
Fueled airlines for 4 years at kbuf... Job sucks... Super hot in summer and ice cold in winter...for minimum wage...the old dc-9a are worst...gauges always inop
Poor thing
I hate the king air 350's, dispatch will call us and say something stupid like "fill the main tanks and put 358 liters in the aux's"
Me too. Got accused of causing a delay for USAir and got yelled at by Strang. Until I showed him that I was doing support equipment that day. Then he was like, are you sure? No here is the work sheet that I filled out and signed and the supervisor signed. Lots of suckups and kiss asses there.
Thats because they run on air!
HAHA, garbage airplanes.
at 2:45
look how small the wings of the airplane are. 6500 gallons in those tiny wings? that's insane dude.
They are not "small" by which I think your pea brain meant thin. Those wheels are around 48" in diameter(rim and tire). The wing root on that a320 is about 36" thick maybe more.
Here's a link to the cross section of the a380 wing. Yes they are that thick, that wide, and that long.
www.quora.com/Where-is-fuel-in-a-passenger-aircraft-stored-and-what-is-the-typical-capacity
you know weight from numbers, this pea brain has worked in constructions with a tower crane so i know about weights. not just from papers like you, i have experience with weights. i'm also a stud. i have also driven a tractor with up to 20 tons behind me. if there is 320 000 liter kerosene in an A380 that's a weight of 256 000 kg into the wings. how many cars can we stack on an airplane without fuel?
Not all the fuel is stored/carried in the wings, a good portion is stored in the fuselage and some aircraft store fuel in the tail for ballast.
Again, the wings are not thin nor weak. If you can't understand that steel and aluminum as well as other structural metals can have different properties to include strengths and yields then you are seriously lacking for this discussion.
+ 225degrees
just like a tire of an A380 can carry 25 tons, the wings are full of liquid. no way there is liquid into the wings. do you understand how much movement there would be in the tanks? to understand this, try an m³ tank of water on a trailer behind a car. drive with a full tank, with a half full tank, and an empty tank and notice the force. now imagine the 3th dimension with this, going up and down. it's just a big scam. and that's how an airplane can float after take off "2009: Airplane crash-lands into Hudson River; all aboard reported safe" it made a safe landing after takeoff. full of fuel but the wings floated. so the ultra strong material the wings are made of, can also float? what can't the wings do?
So no one's gonna talk about that sick motorcycle flip someone did on the way to the airport?
@ 2:03 I'm sorry but 42.200 pounds of fuel does not equal 6,500 gallons. Replace the decimal with a comma.
My question is .. does the fuel get sucked up orrrr? Because gravity you know
Now I understand why airline tickets can be so expensive lol
You are a stupid Guy, you understand nothing.....compressed Air.
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Is this hard to do as someone who been mostly retail since high school sadly
Where his safety glasses at? Anyways I do this same job at O'hare, sometimes I'm fueling jet Blues, sometimes I'm fueling commuters and sometimes I'm fueling international planes.
Raul Ocampo never seen fuelers wear security glasses lmaoo
Are you sure you're filling these AIRplanes with "gas" and not liquid nitrogen,hydrogen or oxygen mix? 🤔
Or is it an industry secret?
I’m applying for this job at O’hare how do you like it ? I need to make some money and they’re paying 21 per hour
@@dodovomitory3496 they're supposed to lol
@@babaduke3298 jet A
Can anyone tell me what it’s like being an aircraft fueler. I have an interview tomorrow for this job but I’m a chem major in a community college and have no idea what I’m getting myself into. I want to be educated before accepting the job.
Sorry I’m seeing this just now or I would have answered. How did it go?
Low pay, hard work, no future. Find a better job somewhere else.
@@ANDROLOMA yea the pay is not as good as I expected
How’d it go
@Eve ?
I just entered the industry and noticed the difference between fuel meter of the airplane and the fuel truck when refueling. Mostly the number on the truck is higher. Is this normal or the airline is paying for less ! Hope someone with experience can answer :)
Cheese
Fuel on the truck is measured in gallons and on the aircraft in pounds or kilograms due to the fuel density expanding and contracting with the temperatures.
MANY AIRMEN USE THE EARNINGS TRANSFER BOARD OF PTS: ETB? OR ETP? OR ETC? BECAUSE THAT IS THE FUEL SUPERVISOR RIGHT JET BLUE AIRLINES?
@ 0:23 meet poonai a business partner. partner or employee?
I'm a aircraft fueler in the us army I mostly fuel blackhawk helicopters and ch47 chinooks (the crew cheef does most work for ch47s) but this job isnt hard just dont get too consistent because you are putting other lives at risk if you half ass a job. From my understanding if a plane goes down the first thing they look at is the fuel and if the plane went down because the fuel is commingled (*aviation fuel term for contaminated*) you will do prison time. I can answer most questions if you have any about fueling day in and out procedures I'm sure it isn't different from conventional aircraft fueling.
Contaminated fuel isn't necessarily commingled, but nice try
Also I think you meant complacent, not consistent?
So do you have to hold those gas hose to the plane for hours? Or does it lock in place. And you wait while it fills up?
@@angelorangesticks5560 you twist it to lock it in place
So it’s easy how much you make does it get boring
you never see any drips come from the pipe even when there winding in pipe
I'm beginning to think we are dealing with some sort of hybrid liquid hydrogen, nitrogen or oxygen, not "petrol".
🤔
A gallon of JetA weighs 6.66lbs
www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&ei=R0o3XtzGBcOa_Qa7uYSQCA&q=how+much+does+1+gallon+of+jet+a+weigh&oq=how+much+does+1+gallon+of+jetA+&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.0i22i30l2j33i160j33i299l3.3473.7009..8845...0.1..0.228.954.3j4j1......0....1.........0i71j41j0.AcmxYNDVZqQ
Because they nozzles are no drip nozzles.
They will cover that on next generation fueling equipment. It will provides the drips.
Wow we got a real engineer over here
That's awesome.
Awesome. Love your A320
This video is a some because you get to learn about how a plane works
+jetblue what is the music?
日本の羽田空港で給油作業してます。
国際線は1時間給油するので冬は地獄です。
people say if you work around the aircraft you are not as nearly smart as working on the aircraft, that's not true, they need to be good at math in order to supply the aircraft with the correct amount of fuel.
Not true if you can add basic numbers you fine.
Not true lol they tell us the amount and we just select the numbers on the plane fuel panel and pump. JetBlue is fully automatic fueling at JFK, they dont allow us to manually fuel.
Wait so is this when you add the chemicals for the chemtrails lololol I can’t believe those people haven’t made it here yet!
Russian Bot we have worse ones now, they think an airplane uses no jet fuel at all, and runs on either compressed air, or perpetual motion, or anti gravity(I suppose they don't have a consensus)
Chemtrails do not exist it's contrails
Ethan's Aviation lol
How do you farm fuel? Does it grow on trees or in the ground?
Really nigga? It comes from the ground. made from refining oil.
Dead Dinosaurs buddy... cant farm those anymore, thats why they're trying to look for renewable energy source
Fuel farm Is a depot, in english they call this way, in italiano we call It deposito carburante
The visual says, "This flight to LAX needs 42.200 (42 point 200) pounds of fuel." I think you meant to say 42, 200 (
42 comma 200) pounds of fuel.
actually no, on our fuel slips the load would be written as 42.2 (42,200) the period separated the thousands from the hundreds.
very cool music & video
How much can you earn doing this job? Just want to compare with other country.
I start this job on Tuesday.
me too, but after a month. I hope.
how much does this job pays? i woud like to work at an airport
14.25 in new york
is it a career type of job? is it worth spending time in it? (based on your experience)
It pays more than retail and other such things. It really depends on the union you'll be under, if you're looking just for a career I would honestly go into something like local or OTR trucking with a CDL. Fueling isn't a horrible paying job but IMO there are other things just about as easy to get into that have a better long term outlook even if they're more demanding, but again it depends on your union. Waiters and waitresses can make even more than both with tips(seriously, know them) but honestly you couldn't pay me 100k to do that job
where can i do that course please?
Any tips on connecting the single point nozzle to the air bus I cannot lift it or I am do it improperly .. second day on the job and this is the only thing that's getting me nervous come time for my audit 😭
lol
Here's a tip. Grab the hose with your left hand well done from the nozzle. When you do this bend your knees. Pinch the hose with your left hand against your body and guide the nozzle with your right hand(reverse the hands if you're a lefty). When you stand up you will use your legs instead of your arms to lift the hose, guide and connect with the right hand. If your fuel truck has a basket get it up nice and close to the wing so you're ducking your head, this will ensure that when you stand up with the hose you will absolutely meet the plane.
There's knowing how to do it, then there's the skill in actually hooking up the hose. It's not as easy as you think.
Absolutely as aviation fuel so clean, Increase fuel level?
Why aren't you using metric units
Cuz America... duh.
Same reason the world uses feet above sealevel, because america invented and commercialized flight lol
It’s the US we use the imperial system and it has been the standard measurement for fuel weight in North America
American built aircraft use the imperial system, everyone else uses metric.
The US did not "invent" flight they have the claim of DISCOVERING flight.
I keep replaying this video cause the song is kinda rad.
How does one apply to this job?
What was Yoru first blue City?
$40,700 to fuel up a 737 in March 2020 at $5.97 per gallon.
Gallons, miles are confusing, try metric units bro!
Good job
Not enjoyable when i have to concentrate on something i cant see.
Im suprised to see this airbus with a belly panel, i fuel at msp and every single a319-a321 ive fueled has thr panel on the wing, the a330 has a belly panel tho
Older a320's have the belly panel.
It depends on the airline
The older narrowbody Airbuses have the wing panel, newer now feature the belly panel
8-14 a day? thats it? sheesh then im super man lol
how does so much fuel fit in the wings?
Depends on the aircraft
@@sexigrande1792 duh. its just everybody says that the fuel is mainly in the wings. but when I try to check how much fuel the aircraft can carry (in total not only in wings) usually it does not add up with the drawings (schematics). also on the schematics the wings are always portrayed way thicker than irl.
I always found it odd that you can check how much coil a steam engined ship or diesel diesel engined ship can carry and how much they need etc and I'm not even talking about cars and trucks, but with airplanes it's all shrouded in mystery.
@@donfanto1 I misread that. this is an A380 wingwww.deeside.com/airbus-could-be-about-to-give-update-on-a380-shutdown-plans/ those are massive areas for fuel. What schematics are you referring to? Manufacturer drawings and aircraft publications which give measurements down to thousands of an inch wouldn’t be as accessible to the public( to my knowledge though I don’t research it) especially military aircraft, that would be a given. I did lots of fuel tank work when I was younger on military aircraft comparable to a 737 in size. Those aircraft could hold 60k pounds total…4 wing tanks and two centre wing tanks. Those wings were tiny compared to large aircraft.
@@sexigrande1792 I know but supposedly A380 can carry up to 315 000+ litres of fuel. on average as I was able to find out it was something like 250 000+.but it would vary.
So I roughly know how much it is in volume cuz I used to work in a warehouse where we were storing building materials. anyhow I just googled how but is 315 000 litres in volume (like a visual representation) and it's huge. most common displacement size for the tanks is 10 000 litres. now imagine 31.5 of those and its just for the fuel. so where does everything else go? cargo? hydraulics? all sorts of pumps and pipes? passenger space?
all I'm saying is that those numbers don't quite add up and I understand if we were talking about military stuff, but those are just aircrafts of all shapes and sizes.
either I'm missing a 0 in every single equation that I do or there is something that is fucky.
@@donfanto1 I’d say off the top off my head 90% of the wings itself can hold fuel. In order to calculate the volume you need the measurements of the wing etc. But I think they have tanks in the tail as well. But if you want to talk about close approximations don’t you think someone who services on a hands on level notice if the figures were nowhere near the manufacturers specs? Even when they’re designed technical documents would have all the volumes. I don’t think they rarely if ever fly with max fuel capacity anyway.
0:07 Ya' sure that's JFK because I see San Juan. I know what scenery lines up next to that runway. No, not ocean.
How dangerous is this job ?
BUT THE PTS,NOT AM ET F TRANSER THE FUEL BILL UNLIKE THE THE TRAILING AIRCRAFT
How do airlines pay for the Fuel they need to fly to the destination Is it like at a Gas pump when we fill up are personal vehicles or work vehicles where they pay for the fuel ahead of time
No its all contracted out. Every couple of years a tender will come out for an airline and different refuelling companies will bid on it and whichever company offers fuel for the cheapest amount wins the contract. I'm not in management at the company I work for but I would imagine at the end of the month the total sales will be sent to the customer and once they review the bill for the whole month and are satisfied with it then they would send payment to the fuel provider.
Msp airport gets is fuel by underground pipeline from the refinery directly to 3 1 million gallon tanks
The pilot gives his credit card to the fueler to swipe. Haven't you ever seen the movie "Airplane"?
swissport fuel baby 🤙🏾
Why Airhose ? okay compressed air is the fuel. Minute 2.00
Compressed air is fuel? Jet fuel is fuel 🫠🫠🫠
@@sexigrande1792 , fucking NASA - Guy ? Lol
@@peterhoebarth4234 actually petrol shill I like to go by.
LMAO you are hopeless.
That's called the dead man switch, he must hold it for the truck to pump the fuel. If he lets go the truck will automatically stop pumping fuel, it's a safety device it works off of compressed air activating the valve
Most underpaid ever for what we do
Underpaid for just pumping gas? Thanks for the Lolz!
@@frankgrimesification it's the critical role of the process.....you have no idea how economy works......you must be a small child
I thought jet fuel was much more expensive than what cars use. Under $4 per gallon sounds little.
When you buy in bulk you get a better price. Jet fuel is just high grade diesel fuel, a parafin based fuel.
Is this job too industrious ?
Cool!
Hmmm... that's wierd. Why, when you tell us how much liquid fuel he's putting in, do you show him standing there, monitoring the gauges (for forty alleged minutes, supposedly) WHILE "FILLING IT UP", with a green and red AIR HOSE in his hand? Could it be that he is really filling it up with compressed air, which is waaaaaaaay cheaper than liquid fuel, isn't it?
You mean the deadman switch which activates the fuel flow?........
The red and green lines are for the deadman switch. One is using compressed air to activate the safety valve and the other is the sensing line that feeds pressure data to the truck/cart. Again, if you haven't done the job you should probably shut the fuck up.
Kristan, don't be lame. Stop being a millennial for a second and think of what you were duped into. A gas turbine absolutely MUST HAVE fuel to run whether its natural gas or liquid fuel to combust. That 3'' hose is what puts the fuel in the wing. Stop it at 2:06 to see the fuel fitting. Please don't fall for misinformation from YouBoob idiots. I was an Engineer for General Electric and worked with gas turbines for many years. If you want to stop one, cut the fuel. Simple as that.
No. He is not "filling it up with compressed air," the earth is not flat, and you can't drive without a license. Grow up.
jmowreader, For a liberal....you make a lot of sense.
is there any world wide approved training centre or college for aircraft refuelling course
not that I'm aware of, im a refueller here at my local FBO and all I needed was my tractor trailer license and multi axle vehicle license to drive the fuel trucks (we don't use hydrant trucks like you see in this video our trucks carry the fuel on them) which I didn't have so they let me use their trucks for my road tests. I think each company is going to have their own training program that you would have to do upon hiring.
Most fuelers make a few bucks over minimum wage, yeah all that responsibility and they pay you peanuts. It is a job you have to learn by doing.
my FBO has a video training course. forget the name but it's standardized nationally. goes over everything related to line service. towing, fueling, dealing w/ customers, etc, etc, etc. no cost to the employee. mostly we deal w/ biz jets but also airliners, we had a Antonov 124 last couple of weeks. they all use single point nozzles just some have programmable fuel panels.
Wait. That’s a lot of fuel. How does it get to the airports?
I can't speak for every major airport, but I know that for Toronto Pearson there is a direct pipeline running from the Imperial Oil refinery in Nanticoke to the airport. Otherwise it's trucked in like any other fuel station.
Joel Houghton thank you! I was thinking about the trucking fuel in thing, but from what I’ve seen and hear as far as how much fuel these planes use, you would think they would have a constant flow nonstop of tankers driving through dropping fuel.
That is why it is WAY cheaper to have it directly piped in instead of paying truckers to haul it.
Pipelines, still the numbers dont add up for their max capacity of flow per day
That is exactly what happens. At YYC there's anywhre from 50-80 tankers a day. YYC also has a direct pipeline from the refinery in Edmonton. Storage on site at YYC is a little over 16 million litres. Average daily consumption is around 1.8 million litres.
I'm working on AYT Turkey.
awesome music
funny enough I'm actually going on a plane today!
Yeah, that's hysterical!
If I fill my car with this fuel, will it make my car fly?
Joey’s Scrotum you engine will try to burn it and just stop. Can’t burn the jet fuel hot enough. Won’t blow up though.
Joey’s Scrotum yes I know it was a joke 😂
Does jetblue like southwest 🤔
0:35 okay. 1:39 BITCH THAT'S AN AIRBUS!
Allied Aviation!! Great Company To Work For!
Angel Raya what makes them so great? I heard pay sucks there
Tu sabes como es
@@killomon27 All contractors at the airport suck to work for whether they provide ramp or fueling services.
Lies. You're telling us that all the fuel was pumped in such short space of time in an aluminum wing that fast? Tell us it takes a little fuel and once airborne air does the rest
Sccratlanta I have seen inside the wings before. My thing is we're being lied to
He'll be sniffing glue still
lol. same way you need a lil bit wisdom to open your mouth and once you're speaking your shithole does the rest
Aluminium alloy actually there's a difference
@@ethansaviation2672 Thanks for the correction
I work for allied aviation at Sacramento airport
How was it. I’m going on a interview for allied tomorrow out here in Dallas
I like the video and all but as a fueler i just wanna say this guy didn't ground correctly
As a fueler i gotta say.....i wish my station had a hydrant system
How so? The hydrant hose is the ground and he bonded to the aircraft before hooking up the fuel line hose.
Nice
Compressed air.
It sure makes one wonder.
All that alleged liquid "gas" and not a spill or drop of fuel escapes? And these "refuelers" don't seem affected by vapor or.... (no masks), and wearing gloves that would not protect their skin from "gas" if any were to leak.
As if it were more like liquid nitrogen, oxygen or hydrogen. 🤔
baba duke There are leaks from the hoses. He is using the wrong gloves that are not issued by the company. We are issued chemical-resistant gloves. We’re only affected if you’re exposed to it excessively, like straight up purposely inhale that shit lol. It can cause cancer
A gallon of JetA weighs 6.66lbs
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Eloh Ell JetA is nothing but kerosene.
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Yeah, that's why planes catch fire when they crash, because air is flammable. Try lighting a match in your room and see if the air in your room bursts into flames. Moron!
what experience do you need to apply for this job, or do they train you.
You don't need any experience as all the training is given to you. To get the job what you need are connections and a VERY HIGH seniority due to fucking unions. Fuck unions.
They will hold a mirror under your nose and if it fogs up, you're hired.
Are people really this stupid to not know an aircraft uses fuel.
Currently watching this waiting on my security badge..
Ruine Marie me too...are you refueling planes now?
They'd give you a security position to someone willing to have a crazy avatar pic as you have?
Oh boy. 🙄😑
baba duke dude, shut the fuck up
nice
Why are you calling it "gas" ?
Some people refer to any fossil fuel as gas which is short for gasoline even though its technically wrong.
Because it used to be called Aviation Gas before jets came along. Now AVGAS is something totally different.
Jets came along in the 1950s. That's a hell of long time to hold onto the wrong terminology. I don't know whether anyone's ever mistaken fuelled a turbine engine with Avgas, but the opposite has certainly happened, with serious consequeces.
No, they never have.
Sylvia Else try Red Indians, it's more than 400 years to realize Native Americans vs Red Indians.
Indians are from Asia, just because the first guy confused Americans with Asians, you guys still call the same.
No tip?
Don't bet on the horses.
nice video in my case is diferent we used the truck only in air canada, air berlin cuz we have carts in all gates and also the fuel slip is diferent i am in swissport fueling services in RSW AIRPORT. god bless guys.
You quit yet?
AUTO BALANCE MY ASS!!!!! I Challange any fueler, ground crew, flight crew to post a pic or video of a working auto balance on a POS Airbus.
geez 40 mins to fuel? They need to get some of the NASCAR,\F1 tech
Lmao the NASCAR tech is literally a gas can held upside down.
@@sgtpepper6379 Right, working with gravity lol