Aligning Shapes, Starting Point, Copy along path, Mirror across a line, Adv toolbar, Circular Array

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    Intro
    01:45 Constraining and aligning Shapes
    06:22 Starting Point & Copy along a path
    12:01 Mirror across a line
    18:00 Advanced toolbar
    21:48 Circular Array tool & Clock faces
    26:08 Final Thoughts
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Komentáře • 220

  • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
    @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci +8

    *Thank you all so much for watching!* _I have the BEST subscribers!_

  • @butchconover
    @butchconover Před 3 měsíci +13

    You have got to be the best teacher for explaining how to use Lightburn that I have ever seen and also how to properly use you laser.

  • @darrylwhitman8475
    @darrylwhitman8475 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rich, Draz here from your forums, you are one of the best teachers I have ever listened to, I'm a noob to this with 4 months of owning my laser , your videos help me greatly, thank you..

  • @steveferguson1232
    @steveferguson1232 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Of course Rich, I’ll be here until the end. I’m loving this teaching side of you. When you talk, it’s not a monotone voice and that alone keeps me watching. Your teaching technique is very good by the way you do the teaching a couple times so if we minutely missed something, we will catch it the second time. Keep them coming, I’m learning more with every video

  • @johndiego3105
    @johndiego3105 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rich, I think I have the circular array tool figured out. That tool does NOT like to work on my laptop so I got a desktop. Works like it’s supposed to. The more I listen to you the smarter you become!!! 😊

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci

      Wow! Thank you so much! I appreciate the comment! Laptops don't play well with Lightburn...

  • @MartinMackaway
    @MartinMackaway Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks Rich for all the videos you do. I wouldn't be as far into my laser journey without them. I watch as many of them as I can, when I can and there's nothing wrong with a little bit of self promotion lol. All your loyal supporters will totally understand. So please keep it all going as you are mate. All the best from Australia

  • @donspoor8367
    @donspoor8367 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I still would like to see videos on how you go about making different things. I do like this new format I learn a lot. There so much to learn. just keep doing what you do best TEACH us.

  • @larrystaas1940
    @larrystaas1940 Před 3 měsíci +1

    A mix of reviews, project and education, heavy on the educational would be great. Very few presenters educate the basics anymore and that is a shame as there are always new folks picking up the hobby. Thanks for the work and content you make available.

  • @gilbertboyer9936
    @gilbertboyer9936 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Once again Rich, ever so thankful for your helpful tutorials.

  • @atienne_navarre
    @atienne_navarre Před 3 měsíci +1

    Still here... lol - If you get back to to the array - please hit up the auto increment function. Thx Rich.

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci

      I've used it in a few videos Atienne, but yeah, I'll make a focused video on it soon, thanks! 👍

  • @ahmadkhojastehzad2987
    @ahmadkhojastehzad2987 Před 3 měsíci +2

    great tips rich please keep teaching more tips like this in lightburn these are the very usefull tips for everyone i am learing the lightburn better every day thank you

  • @herbertbrowning6753
    @herbertbrowning6753 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Yup! Still here. Great information Rich Thank you.

  • @davidelder5399
    @davidelder5399 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rich first off, congratulations on 75k subscribers 👏 I love watching your tutorials. I've learned so much over the last two & a bit years. Thanks again from over the pond 🇬🇧

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Always a pleasure David, and your comments are much appreciated Sir! 🙏 Cheers!

  • @alsadaj1834
    @alsadaj1834 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You certainly deserve the 75K subscribers..

  • @vcap7886
    @vcap7886 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Push the scroll wheel down to move around the screen. So much easier! Great videos!

  • @terryclair2914
    @terryclair2914 Před 3 měsíci +1

    One minor comment Rich. On mirror across a line the line doesn't have to be a tool path and can be diagonal or horizontal. Also to mirror across a shape just draw a line down it's center. Thank you for this review!!!

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks Terry. Yeah, it can be used in many ways. This is just what I'm used to, using tool paths.

  • @JoeBledsoe-qs6rf
    @JoeBledsoe-qs6rf Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank you. I’m a brand new beginner. This is most helpful.

  • @TheMakersMarkTSF
    @TheMakersMarkTSF Před 3 měsíci +2

    I do like this format, I never want to say anything to offend you because you are so knowledgeable with Lightburn and I am totally inept but being more focused on a single task makes it easier for me to learn.

  • @justrockinout7333
    @justrockinout7333 Před 3 měsíci

    Several 'aha!' moments in this video. I recently learned that if I am in mm and type 10in in the size field, it converts the 10 inches into mm. Today I learned that I can do math operations in that field also! So many cool features I had no idea were there. Thank you for taking the time to show us and really explain what you're doing. That makes all the difference! I appreciate you, Rich!

  • @user-qp3wx4me1l
    @user-qp3wx4me1l Před 3 měsíci +1

    Incredibly easy to watch and learn! Thank you for doing these videos.

  • @edturonek1136
    @edturonek1136 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The nice thing about videos like this is you're answering questions that I didn't even know I had.

  • @johntheloft
    @johntheloft Před 3 měsíci +2

    No one does this lightburn training like you Rich. I'm a forever guy for your channel. John UK

  • @dwightjantz7214
    @dwightjantz7214 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Watched it all. I've learned so much by watching your videos. Thanks

  • @Warped1369
    @Warped1369 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Good morning, Rich.

  • @JimMilton-kq4qj
    @JimMilton-kq4qj Před 3 měsíci +1

    I once again great stuff! I like the new format,but the previous stuff is so important to us newbies too. Thanks again for all your excellent content.

  • @swanie241
    @swanie241 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hi Rich, Thanks from Australis. You again answered many questions i did not have. Love your work. And yes was here till the end.

  • @user-ho2oj4dc7r
    @user-ho2oj4dc7r Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great video, thank you! Another tip I learned as a complete beginner is that my Lightburn was in "Beginner Mode" so I did not see the "set shape start point" button. If anyone else was missing this button, go into Edit > Settings and within the Display/Graphics section, turn off Beginner Mode (Simpler Interface).

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci

      You should never turn on beginner mode IMO. It serves no purpose but to extends the learning curve.

  • @wb3ccn
    @wb3ccn Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rich, I have learned so you I can't thank you enough. You mentioned something that I could have used yesterday, and that is how to find something that gets lost on the screen, I hope that sounded right.

  • @StephenJohnson-pf8qe
    @StephenJohnson-pf8qe Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great Idea. I learned Lightburn using your original tutorial...binge watched it. I refer to it constantly. I know I will find a solution somewhere in your videos. This format is targeted, I don't have to search or remember where I saw the Lightburn technique that I need. Thanks again, you are my Yoda.
    Steve
    OBTW...graduate Kenner Jr Hi, East Jefferson Hi. Go Saints!

  • @vikingwind25
    @vikingwind25 Před 3 měsíci

    Hey Rich, I'm still here. I like your new format.You have a great way of describing elements of Lightburn that makes it very easy to follow I am about one year into lasers now and you have been one of the most valuable assets and inspirations I have found on CZcams. Thanks!

  • @garyb3323
    @garyb3323 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thanks! Loved it. Welcome back to the old format. The best learning tool.

  • @ValleyForged
    @ValleyForged Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks Rich! The mirror was super helpful!

  • @richardtreherne4306
    @richardtreherne4306 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Brilliant stuff Rich, you are a great teacher and the new format is brilliant.👍

  • @peggycasey2265
    @peggycasey2265 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks Rich, learned a couple new things today. Very informative.

  • @schlotdoglaser
    @schlotdoglaser Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rich, you have a way explaining things in Lightburn to make them easy to understand. It is an honor to be a mod for your group and a friend.

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you so much Keith! I really appreciate it, and your time and effort! 👍

  • @DavidJohnson-sv7mg
    @DavidJohnson-sv7mg Před 3 měsíci +1

    If you (you tubers) are teaching I'm sticking with you till the end. All talking is a skipped video. 😮 And I really like the new/old format.

  • @rontaylor6673
    @rontaylor6673 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Well Done Rich .... I like the new format.

  • @ahwahneeliz
    @ahwahneeliz Před 3 měsíci +1

    Math operators in sizing 🤯 I had no idea. Thanks for all you do for the community

  • @gritz6949
    @gritz6949 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the tutorial. Have been watching them since I purchased my first laser. Have several friends getting into lasers and have highly recommended them to put you on their subscribe list. Thx again and keep those videos coming.

  • @Andy.H.H.
    @Andy.H.H. Před 3 měsíci +1

    Awesome video Rich! I really like how these teach me all the features of LightBurn!

  • @graydonald794
    @graydonald794 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great Video. FYI you can press the spacebar and left click, drag to move your workspace.

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks for the tip! There are several ways to do everything in Lightburn!

  • @IanFlyinGremlinRCNZ
    @IanFlyinGremlinRCNZ Před 3 měsíci +1

    A BIG THANK YOU Rich for this video and the format you are starting, even though all you other videos are just as good, this way it great. And with the clock one this has just come in handy for me righ now, as I am going to be making a clock, with a hunting scene and using old shotgun cartridges as numbers, and now I can use the circle array tool to make dots when I need to drill the holes for the shells to sit. And yes I did watch the whoe video as well. Coz if you dont you are likey to miss something little hint that could be important to make the project work 🙂

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci

      Wow! Thank you so much Ian! I'm happy you like the new _(old)_ format!

  • @handengraving6182
    @handengraving6182 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank You Very Much Rick! You are The Best! Have a Great Day!

  • @richardobermark755
    @richardobermark755 Před 3 měsíci +2

    As always, another great video! You have a fantastic ability as a teacher. Thank you so much for your time putting these together. When I need to figure something out, I always reference your video library first!

  • @lonniedupont
    @lonniedupont Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great video.
    And yes, I think the teaching videos are the best. I did watch til the end.

  • @thelnbv
    @thelnbv Před 3 měsíci +1

    yea!!! Although the projects told of the possibilities, we newbies need to know function. I had my laser for a while, watch one of your earlier videos and was brave enough to dive in. Thank you

  • @Singz1
    @Singz1 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great video Rich,,,,I've been watching and learning from you for a couple of years. Wow four topics covered in less than 30 min, again wow! Like the new video format much better.

  • @haroldgaudinier4213
    @haroldgaudinier4213 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hey Rich, I was just trying to figure out the aligning shapes thing for an arcade trackball cut out. Prefect timing. I got through it ok, but this video ADDED to my knowledge level with alternative options. Thanks for this video!!!!

  • @leonardleblanc4194
    @leonardleblanc4194 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks Rich you do a GREAT JOB!!!!! always👍

  • @ttoy3603
    @ttoy3603 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thank you very much for teaching this it is really helpful... I like the new format....Tim

  • @Joe135Boomer
    @Joe135Boomer Před 3 měsíci +1

    As always, excellent instructional video. thank you for taking your time and sharing all of your knowledge

  • @waynehall6328
    @waynehall6328 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I am ery new to the lazer engraver game and your videos are enormously helpful and informative! Thanks so much!

  • @stevespringer8385
    @stevespringer8385 Před 3 měsíci +1

    another winner Rich! thanks so much.

  • @patpliley5535
    @patpliley5535 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Very good layout. Good explaining. Thanks

  • @danielshuflin9095
    @danielshuflin9095 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Awesome video.I really like your new format. Keeping coming.

  • @allenhuckabee3764
    @allenhuckabee3764 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This was very helpful. Thank you. I like this format.

  • @RichardFord-ye7km
    @RichardFord-ye7km Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love the new format very well explained

  • @grandviewfarmer1994
    @grandviewfarmer1994 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Awesome video so glad you're going back to tutorials... thank you for the tips

  • @outsidescrewball
    @outsidescrewball Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great mentoring…thank you

  • @vrich3733
    @vrich3733 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Awesome thank you. I'm going to try to make a clock now 👍

  • @sunrisetacticalgear2676
    @sunrisetacticalgear2676 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

  • @francespower3215
    @francespower3215 Před 3 měsíci +1

    i really like your short videos and would like if you would make something small from start to finish for a beginner

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci

      Did you miss this one Frances? czcams.com/video/er-8AiO4WSw/video.html

  • @Essentialvideophoto
    @Essentialvideophoto Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hello Sir. Awesome video. Coming back to basics sometimes is the best thing, and at the same time by refreshing those technics we can learn something new. Awesome. Thank you !!

  • @jameseler2898
    @jameseler2898 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Very good Rich this is why I subscribed and a Patreon😃

  • @sharonsimonson5392
    @sharonsimonson5392 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Looking for the videos on teaching on how to use Lightburn! Thank you very much!!

  • @malcpye6987
    @malcpye6987 Před 3 měsíci +1

    great video and great tips thanks Malc from England

  • @slhasebroock
    @slhasebroock Před 3 měsíci +1

    👍👍Still here! 😊

  • @diane253
    @diane253 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love the new format, thanks👌

  • @arrowdriver
    @arrowdriver Před 3 měsíci +1

    Awesome thanks for your due diligence.

  • @stevemisher7197
    @stevemisher7197 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Always the best training videos available on line

  • @RonanDavin-wf9ip
    @RonanDavin-wf9ip Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hi Rich I am watching you in Ireland and I think you are the best teacher I’ve ever had. New format is great but I like seeing you projects too. Thanks again. Ronan

  • @BaronvonBavert
    @BaronvonBavert Před 3 měsíci +1

    super 👍 thanks 🤟

  • @luvwud
    @luvwud Před 3 měsíci +1

    Brilliant Rich. Sometimes it's the little nuggets of information that are a real help. Take care Geoff

  • @mrv8rick2
    @mrv8rick2 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great new videos thanks

  • @prpman99
    @prpman99 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks learned even more....

  • @vernonallred6398
    @vernonallred6398 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great job it really helps.

  • @brianhaberberger9667
    @brianhaberberger9667 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I like both ways, thanks

  • @JimG31547
    @JimG31547 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great content

  • @beentb4805
    @beentb4805 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks, rich. Everything you do always helps all the way to the end

  • @CockatoobirdmanBill
    @CockatoobirdmanBill Před 3 měsíci +4

    This is one of the best tutorial videos I have seen on youtube. You are a great teacher and your style is over the TOP....Thank you so much🦜

  • @BuddyClontz
    @BuddyClontz Před 3 měsíci

    Good Morning! Thanks for the videos.👍

  • @MsGeezer73
    @MsGeezer73 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks. Great Information

  • @jimhunt5259
    @jimhunt5259 Před 3 měsíci +1

    keep them coming, love this stuff😛😁😍

  • @sicciful
    @sicciful Před 3 měsíci +1

    thank you rich for this demonstration or tool👌

  • @johncardea837
    @johncardea837 Před 3 měsíci +1

    These are great and a substantial content

  • @toddshepard3592
    @toddshepard3592 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Just renewed my LB license yesterday. Wonderful software and instruction from you! I would watch in whatever format was given no matter what. Thanks again for the vid.

  • @robertdehart7128
    @robertdehart7128 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Back to basic great🎉😊

  • @pamaker135
    @pamaker135 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I am so glad you take the time to learn all this and show us in the way you do. I could have never accomplished as much as I have on Lightburn with out your help. TY

  • @yvonne2259
    @yvonne2259 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank you so much, again! 😊
    You already taught me so much in all your video's but just today I stumbled on some basics I couldn't figure out.
    And here they are, it's just what I needed!!

  • @wesdresen9994
    @wesdresen9994 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I've told you before, you are a great teacher.

  • @pelletigable
    @pelletigable Před 6 dny +1

    Merci!

  • @ednewman9324
    @ednewman9324 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I like it

  • @MidHudsonGifts
    @MidHudsonGifts Před 3 měsíci +1

    Really liked this video. I appreciate you going back to this format. While the laser reviews and project videos have been helpful, this is the sort of thing that made understanding how to use an Ortur Laser Master 2 much easier. Without those videos, I would not have been able to make many of the things I have been building my small business on.
    Perhaps some of the project videos moving forward could demonstrate how these instructional videos can be used. Also demonstrating the difference between materials used and how important different speed/power settings are to achieve different effects would be neat.
    I'm working on my first substantial bulk order of 1000 anodized aluminum business cards and really looking forward to upgrading from LM2 to the Lasermatic. Your videos about the Lasermatic were very helpful in making the decision to purchase it. Also did the math on how long the LM2 was gonna take...
    Do you still have your LM2? Is there anything that you would use it for instead of some of the more expensive rigs you have acquired?

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes I still have most of my lasers, and once you learn how to use them, it makes no difference what laser you use. It's sort of like giving a mechanic China made tools instead of Snap-On. They will still get the job done, but maybe not quite as efficiently or quickly.

  • @JamesCheney84
    @JamesCheney84 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I do like the format, but I do enjoy how personable you are, too. I think you could probably snip enough content with everything you've already generated to create a master class.
    Do you make story boards for your show, or do you work off a bullet points/checklist? Just curious how you prep for a tutorial video...

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci

      99% of the videos are, "off the cuff" James. Very little in the way of prep work.

  • @mikemotta9754
    @mikemotta9754 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great info, thank you. What would be a good example of how the starting point feature can be used.

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci

      The starting point allows the laser to start a cut at any point within a shape, not just the first point. Works best when _reduce travel moves_ is also enabled. You might want this feature when you have multiple shapes within a shape to reduce the travel moves and time it takes to run the job Mike.

  • @randyday3278
    @randyday3278 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the refreshing video, Rich! One question a little off subject. My Lightburn (newest version) will not open to a full screen when first opening it. I can make it go full screen after it's open.

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Mine too... it's always been that way for me Randy. I'll ask Jason about that when I see him next week.

  • @derrickhaig4191
    @derrickhaig4191 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hi Rick can you help on the Lightburn screen where the cuts, shape properties, camera etc. you have 2 sections above one another ,I.e. cuts above and laser below.
    I just have one, how do I get 2 sets?
    Great video again

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci

      Grab a tab by the red title bar and drag it out of the docking, and then drag it below the other tabs and a new space will open up where you can drop it. _Doesn't work well on laptops_

  • @pastorbobleatherworks
    @pastorbobleatherworks Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanks so much for all your tutorials. Very helpful. When i first started using Lightburn, which was recently, the radius button (just below starting point) would allow me to have different radii on each corner of a square. I now have the handle in one corner of the square that changes all four corners equally, and when I press the radius button and hover over the corner of the square, it has a red shape displayed with the cursor and won't let me make any adjustments. Any Idea why?

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I can't replicate it. You can ask on forum.lightburnsoftware.com

    • @pastorbobleatherworks
      @pastorbobleatherworks Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Thanks. When I get to my computer with the software I will try to take a screen shot of the issue and post. Thanks again for you quick reply and all you do for this community. God Bless!

    • @pastorbobleatherworks
      @pastorbobleatherworks Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy I figured it out. The error is "can't fillet - not enough space. I thought the setting was 0.5, but it was 5. If your shape is small and radius amount too big, it won't allow it.

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Oh, well I don't use the radius tool anymore Bob. With the item selected, if you hold control, a little blue dot appears in the corner that you can drag. It replaced the radius tool.

    • @pastorbobleatherworks
      @pastorbobleatherworks Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy same. If I want a symmetrical shape, but there are times I want tops different from bottom corners.

  • @jimad
    @jimad Před 20 dny +1

    Question: Is it possible to create a circular array of text with values taken from a spreadsheet?

  • @RobSandstromDesigns
    @RobSandstromDesigns Před 3 měsíci +1

    Excellent video. I think someting is not setup right with y snapping. As soon as I select the center of the circle the arrow turns into a cross and I never see it as a bullseye - not even positive it is snapping. I have snapping turned on in the settings box.

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Check the object snap distance Rob.

    • @RobSandstromDesigns
      @RobSandstromDesigns Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy I did check it and didn't really help. My snapping is not working like you explained and also not working like the manual indicates it should. Cursor doesn't change and snapping is not consistent. Not really sure what is going on. I have been searching the forums to see if I can get it figured out but not yet. I have to be sure I am doing something wrong with my setup or something else, just kind of at a loss for now. Giving up for now because I have to go do something else and spent way too much time on this topic for now. Thanks for your continued help and support.

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Try doing a reset Rob. Window --> Reset to default layout. I rarely see replies to replies to comments, so it might be easier for you to ask a Lightburn tech instead of having a conversation here in the comments: forum.lightburnsoftware.com/

    • @RobSandstromDesigns
      @RobSandstromDesigns Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy you are right I had already started researching the forum. No need for a reply. to this comment. You are always so generous with your time. Only reason for this reply is to say thank you - just showing my appreciation for your time.