Dr. Randy Clark and the New Apostolic Reformation
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Dr. Randy Clark has been accused by critics of being a part of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).... is this true?
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The biggest question is not about the hierarchy, it is about what is the NAR doing and is it biblical. Declaring, decreeing, holy laughter, prophecy, deliverance ministries, spiritual fathers etc. These practices do destroy families.
how exactly do things like prophecy and deliverance destroy families? your comment doesn't really make sense to me.
@@TylerFeller I'll gladly explain via email or other means.
Few aspects the NAR must clarify and come clean which I think they don't.
1. Do they consider themselves as apostles of the same kind of the 12?
2. Don't they claim to have the authority to have new revelations / doctrines outside of the New Testament epistles?
3. Do they consider themselves as the hierarchy in / of the church?
They teach and believe that “we are all little gods”, that God NEED’s them to bring the Kingdom of God to Earth right now taking dominion (rule over) of all aspects of government but God lost authority over the Earth and He needs us to , family, media, arts & entertainment, education, business and religion (the 7 mountain mandate), that Jesus completely “emptied” himself of his divinity/deity becoming ONLY a mere man, that it is perfectly ok for prophets to make incorrect prophecies and make mistakes and still be a true prophet…and many more completely unbiblical teachings. People exegete (exegesis vs eisegesis) scripture, understand its historical context, the audience it was written to and the message intended for them, and read scripture in its full context not cherry picked verses to make things say and apply how you want. Do research. It does not matter what they say they do/don’t believe, you will hear these heresies in their teachings. They are slick with their words and in twisting scripture. The Great Commission is NOT to take over anything, it is to bring The Gospel, Jesus (The Word) is the ONLY way to reconcile us back to relationship with God and save us from eternal death. Period. There is not one scripture that tells us to move governments or even any non-believers under His law. Gods law is for believers! We are to judge (righteously) believers to correction, God will judge the unbelievers. We are to test the spirits that are behind prophets, if they are wrong even once, they are not of God and they are to be not listened to or even associated with. There is plenty of video (on YT) evidence showing these teachings held directly up against the scripture. Don’t take my word for it, research it.
I say that it is Messengers of God people how they live , learn and Spread God s word Amen about how God takes the broken and the weak ones
Teaching unbiblical spiritualism, promoting false prophets who have been proven false over and over, and teaching false doctrine are the issues. The survey means nothing in light of the issues at hand.
the laying on of hands for Impartation of gifts....... latter rain teaching 🤔........ renounced by the AG general council circa 1949 as unbiblical
I love these doctors, Dr. Randy Clark, Dr. Michael Brown. All dockers of of? Common denominator is..... they are all Pentecostals! Hallelujah!
Thank you! This gave lots of needed clarity! ❤
Thank you for providing this. ❤
Today we have the apostolic gifts and the prophetic gifts and they replace the office of Apostle and Prophet. It’s that simple when you consider the Apostles and Prophets were used to build the foundation of the Church which has become completed with Christ being the Chief Cornerstone. When you say there are Prophets and Apostles today you are saying the foundation is not completed yet and it allows any and all kinds of things to ADD to the foundation which is already completed.
Lord Jesus, I confess my sins and ask for your forgiveness. Please come into my heart as my Lord and Savior. Take complete control of my life and help me to walk in Your footsteps daily by the power of the Holy Spirit. Thank you Lord for saving me and for answering my prayer.
Maybe I missed it, but, does Randy Clark talk about apostolic alignment and spiritual covering? I noticed he has Che Ahn’s book for sale in Global movement’s bookstore. It is entitled “Modern Day Apostles” and has several chapters on apostolic authority and governance and yes, alignment and covering.
One of the best explanations of NAR I've heard. However, I am a bit surprised that when the survey indicated, for instance, 100% agreement that a prophets word didn't have the same authority as scripture, that there wasn't a diacussion about the possibility that, of course they'd answer that way. I'm not saying they're being intentionally deceptive. I'm saying we are all flawed human beings. The only way to know the correct answer to a question like that is in "practice". When they give a word how do they portray it to the listeners? Who is allowed to judge the word? What happens if the word doesn't come to pass? Etc. Are they "acting" like their words have authoritative weight that one must obey or they are disobeying God? These are the actual criticisms and the reason that the survey method may have been questioned. People will say one thing and do another. Is that happening? You'd have to watch them in person or on video to know for sure.
thank you, it is however still a small sample size, its better to just talk actual numbers. 0nly 17 persons can still show a heavy choice bias. Really appreciate alot of this opening up.
It's not a small sample size considering it is almost every person that was mentioned in the NAR criticism books. Nearly 95% of the people their quotes came from were surveyed and had different responses than what was said they said.
I really do love Dr. Clark and believe this was a huge step in reconciliation and understanding to apostolic leadership. However, I do agree that it is a small sample size. Even though the NAR book references several key leaders, Bethel, Etc. the greater point I believe is to better represent the vast amount of church leaders/apostles within each of those networks (in the hundreds of thousands). My point is, having only a few key leaders answer several questions is not getting to the bigger issue at hand, not just responding to NAR critics within their two books that were published. This would be a very large project (which I am very interested if someone wants to assist me) but what I was imagining with Dr. Clark’s influence and connections would be in-depth interviews and access to their leaders within the networks to more accurately reflect not just in speech but in action what and how apostolic leadership is occurring around the world. For an example I strongly recommend, that Dr. Wagner himself gave permission to, would be the book, Toward a 21st Century Biblical Apostolic Church by SuYeun Yoon. Dr. Wagner let her interview in depth three key leaders within his network at the time. It showed great transparency, accountability, and understanding to how leadership could be improved.
Anyways, I did not mean to write a long response, but I love content like this and interviews by Dr. Clark as well as his other responses that are very important to better demonstrate how apostolic leadership is functioning around the world for the glory of God. Amen! Great content.
NAR is an end of days deception: false Jesus, false Gospel, leading you to hell. Look up Charles Lawson - NAR
There are 12 apostles - no more no less. They're the foundation of our faith after Jesus Christ, they're the foundation of New Jerusalem - 12 layers - 12 apostles.
did you listen to this interview?
@@DeepWatersPodcast Yep I've listened to a bit of it and glad you're apostolic not NAR
Interesting informative discussion.
Not deep water but deep sh;t
Where can the survey be accessed?
it is in the description of this video
The laying on of hands for the Impartation of gifts.......latter rain teaching.🤔..... renounced by the Ag general assembly circa 1949 as unbiblical
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