Blacksmithing - Making a holdfast for the anvil forging a hold down tool 2020
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2020
- Blacksmithing - Making a holdfast for the anvil.After so many years of dropping things off the anvil i decided to make something that will finally keep things where i want them, so behold the forged holdfast or hold down tool for the anvil. I had to put a bend in it as the hole was too big for the size of material i used, i should have used 25mm but didnt have any so i used some 20mm square mild steel bar.
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When I grow up, I want to be able to forge that cleanly!
You can! I will show you how soon, it's simple when explained.
@@workingwithiron Thanks mate, I look forward to it
Dear Nathan, brilliant.
Excellent video...awesome work...well done ! 👍
You sir have inspired me. This was without a doubt the most relaxing blacksmithing type metal working video I have watched in the last year. I have been watching allot of them, from loud,funny,crazy, and all types in between. This is what I incision for me when I get my shop set up, that looked so peaceful, not stressingly hard and crazy forging, forming, creating without one word.
Thank you sir.
My channel will be ( The Hammered Blade)
Because you didn't use a grinder, sander, file just ANVIL, large anvil at that. And your skill..
Thanks again.
Looking forward to watching more.
Glad to be of service to you G-man really appreciate the feedback! It's not hard and crazy forging as I work with the colours that do what I need for the process at the time. Lighter hammer than most but proper technique. If you work like this you get the job done efficiently without breaking a sweat, I learned this form from a guy called Paul Allen here in the UK. He makes it look easy and never sweats. While everyone watched the forge work I always watch the Smith and how he/she works, stance, colour they forge at and hammer control. Not many people watch that side of this craft but I highly recommend it.
Good luck with the channel 👍
@@workingwithiron , thank you so very much for the response, and the advice. I'm 54 and really appreciate the control, smooth, not breaking my back or a sweat idea. It is what I could see and feel in watching your videos. Again noticing the precise hammer strikes, controlled movement of the stock being forged and preciseness at which it all happens.
Alec steele channel is a good controlled hammer striker, and really promotes getting the control in your hammer blows. Different size and shaped hammers for the project in front of you can make all the difference in the world.
Thanks again for a response it is also telling of the person, craftsman that you are to comment on a total newbies comments such as mine.
God bless and keep swinging!
Keep up the good work. Small detail: the sound of the hammer rather than the music 👍👍👍
the batteries ran out in the mic so had to put something in unfortunately. thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment, much appreciated!
@@workingwithiron Thank you for these informative videos. Take care of yourself and yours.
Good to see you posting again Nath, the list of really 'clean' forge workers on CZcams isn't that long so it's nice to get a fresh video.
I've also heard these referred to as anvil 'dogs' by some of the Stateside boys, but I've always called them hold fast's or hold downs. Much more common nowadays in this era of one man work shops than they used to be. I usually saw them more on the big acorn platen tables than the anvils in bigger forges.
thanks Ian, its nice to be forging soft stuff again that actually moves under the hammer, makes sense with the anvil dogs, will add it to the algorythm thank you!
I know the ones you mean but there be no way im forging one of them by hand haha.
thanks for the kind words, its nice to be back on the forge and filming again.
Ian Lowe we used to use them in the boiler shop on the pin table in the ship yard forming big sections
Very glad you are making videos still. I've made a lot of your projects like the spring fuller and toasting fork. Keep up the great work. You are an excellent smith
Love your videos, great content. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks Richard, i wont keep you waiting too long!
That's beautiful work! I'm gonna try my hand at one of these tomorrow.
Absolutely wonderful
That is such a fantastic job
Thanks for the craftsmanship
Edward
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching 👍
Very nice. I appreciate the fact that most of the work was done with hammer n anvil. Love your work!
Thank you. I will also use a power hammer a lot for upcoming videos as I don't own my own so while I am here and have use of one I will be using it as much as possible until I can get my own. Thanks for the kind words 👍
Great photography and your shop is incredible. Perhaps if you could just explain what you are doing as you go along? Obviously you are an excellent smith and craftsman.
Video quality is superb just like your work, you always produce high grade stuff it's a pleasure to watch. Thanks for the lesson Nathan
Thanks Toby, you are very welcome, always a pleasure to make for you guys and girls, thanks for stopping by 👍
@@workingwithiron No Thanks to You. I never miss a single one. Look forward to the next
Man, Nathan I luv your vids!!😎👍👍 but it's always so distracting trying to watch you work and looking at your setup 💣💥 You inspire, every single one of your pieces inspire!!! Thank you!
Thanks sennest, much appreciated. It's a lovely place but won't last forever so enjoy it while you can, I certainly am. 👍👌
Awesome. I always look forward to your videos. Thanks
Thank you! It means a lot 😊
I was stoked to finally see a notification dot next to your name in my subs list. Love watching how you forge. Clean and square and spot on. Cheers and thanks for sharing! I'm looking forward to your next vid.
I'm glad someone is getting a notification as not a lot of people are unfortunately 😔 can I ask if you use the bell thing or just subscribed? I don't like telling people to subscribe or hit the bell but if that's the way it works I may consider it for the future. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it 👌👍
@@workingwithiron I use the bell mate. Cheers.
@@hammeredanvil7377 awesome, thanks for the feedback.
Came for the video.... Stayed for that Anvil! Jelly as mug over here!
Well crafted!
I loved the wide shot at the anvil, very nice!
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, it's nice to have a wider lens so I can make that possible.
I agree probably one of the coolest shots I've seen 👍 keep it up
Great stuff, really enjoyed this video!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it 👍🤜
Glad to see another video man, always eagerly awaited. Great work, thanks.
its great to be back making, im a little rusty on the forging at the mo but i have to get back into it so they will be regular as can be, hoping for daily videos but i have to learn editing and this new camera still so hopefully they get quicker. if i can get 2 videos a week out i will be happy. thanks for the encouragment Mike!
@@workingwithiron you don't look rusty.. nice clean forging. I have been laid up for a few months and I need some more videos to watch. Thanks again.
Sorry to hear that Mike. Will do my best to get some out there to add to your viewing list. 👍
@@workingwithiron that would be awesome! Some of the best smithing videos on CZcams.
Nice clean work as always. Cheers
thanks for stopping by, cheers Drudful!
Great video and beautiful clean forging, i think this format suits your style perfectly 👍
Thanks techtron 👍 the format of not talking??
@@workingwithiron not saying that i don't like when you talk or that you shouldn'tmix it up a little, but i know it takes longer to produce a video when you have dialogue
Thanks for sharing this it's inspiring
You're very welcome. Thank you for leaving a comment, and for watching, I very much appreciate it
Good project. Something to make to add to my toolbox.
Thanks Mark, one tip is make the arm a lot longer than I did in this video.
The close ups are hugely important. Good clean forging again.
Thanks mate, always thinking about you guys watching on the smaller screens. Glad you enjoy it!
Nice job dude! That came out really well!
Interesting concept perhaps a step above the " Shepard's hook " style commonly seen.
Idk jim reckon it would hold that much better?
🙏 blessed days now
Crawford out 🧙♂️
thanks Jim!
@@danielcrawford7315 they both work. if it works thats all that matters, i used the shepherds hook style for years, never let me down even the crudest of holdfasts. id say they hold the same, just different aesthetics i think.
@@danielcrawford7315 Looks to me like that one should really hold squarely and more solidly than the sheperd style as everything is fitting up square and flat
@@workingwithiron thank you. And yours is most definitely an aesthetically pleasing work of art!
Exceedingly glad that you have chosen to share this w us.
Also good to know of your experience that bolsters the ability of both to hold fast.
🙏 blessed be sirSir
Crawford out 🧙♂️
Great practical video. Half the youTubes on blacksmithing are on making
99 varieties of knives. That gets old.
Is this a bad time to say I want to dabble in a bit of blade work? 🤣 I've got a knife vid in the works but completely different to most, an experiment of such just to see if it's possible.
Oops, once in a while is fine. You do not overdo it.
Very nice forging ⚒️🔥⚒️ Pat from Belgium
Thanks pat! Much appreciated 👍
Love the camera quality 👌🏼
Thanks, I'm really enjoying it myself, been waiting for true colours in forge work for a long time, something my old camera could never do. Glad you're enjoying it 👍
Great content love the video
Thanks Chris, means a lot. Cheers 👍
You do great work,I enjoyed watching swing the hell out of that hammer thanks for sharing
Thanks johnny, much appreciated!
Smooth forging as always Nathan but would expect nothing else 👍
You're too kind George! Thank you!
You're very good with the hammer, and it shows on your finished product. Most of the smiths I've watched have to do a lot of grinding on their work, including me when I made my steelworking tools. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the kind words. It's quite easy if I told you how I get it clean but I can't explain it in written words. You can see how in the video but most won't notice it unless I explain it. I will be doing a tips video for my mic testing and this is one of the things I will be going over. You can see it at the 13:00 Mark I hit the underside to crisp up the top side.
@@workingwithiron you're welcome. I don't know if you know who Torbjorn Ahman is, but yourself and him I believe have the cleanest hammer work on CZcams.
@@workingwithiron fascinating watching your hammer work on the steel and how the steel responds.
Absolutely love the close up views at the anvil and those depicting how you place steel in fire to get the heat in the places you want it.
Absolutely pure gold to those who pay attention and analyze this closely.
Caveat to watching on a phone very much is I cant zoom and slow it down at the spots I want to see things. Lolololol
Sir thank you.
🙏 blessed be now
Crawford out 🧙♂️
@@griseobarba7989 I do, he is one of a few I watch on here, he is very good at the craft and inspiring to a lot of people. It's very kind of you to say that.
@@danielcrawford7315 thanks Crawford, really appreciate you enjoying it for how I'm trying to show it. Glad you notice that! I'm going to try and show how I stand at the anvil and my forging position a lot more from now on as I see a lot of folk stooping over and not getting the efficiency of forging correctly. Again thanks for noticing the bigger picture 👍👌
Hi Nathan, thank you! Your bend solved my problem. My holdfast did not work, the shank was too small for the pritchel hole. I made a bend like you did and now clamps my holdfast bombproof. Best regards Christoph
That's great to hear! Thanks for letting me know, I really appreciate that!! No more dropping stuff for you then 😆👌👍
I think that the little hammer bounce on the anvil has the same purpose as a little rev of the motorcycle at a stop light.
Well done sir, well done. Too few good looking holdfasts out there. Just wish my pritchel could work with something like that.
Thanks. What do you mean? Do you have a pritchel hole?
@@workingwithiron i do but its only about 3/8ths inch when it isnt cold
Excelente !
Thank you! 👍
Thanks, just this morning I was futzing around with my holdfast that does not hold fast. I need to change it to your geometry
Sometimes the hole is a bit bigger or the arm is too short. In this case the hole was too big for my materials choice. Hence bending the long bit so it jams against the top of the pritchel hole and the inside of it. It's not perfect but it does the job intended. Hope you get it sorted 👍
Yes mine holds sometimes ,not all the time,dependig on the thickess of material being held.I will be revisiting the geometry too I forged mie withoit the upset square corner ,just the bend over with a foot.Thanks Nathan ,looks awesome.
I like your work right to the point as a bladesmith one most annoying thing I see a lot other is hammer dance. like ever other hit there tap or bouncing hammer one the anvil
Very nice 👍
Thank you 👍
The bend in your holdfast may have been inadvertent, but it obviously works, and works better than my straight one. I am going to make immediate modification to mine, and thanks!
Can I ask is your arm.on yous short as mine as that may be the reason after looking into it. Hope you get it sorted 👍
@@workingwithiron My issue is that I made the holdfast to fit the pritchel hole in my first anvil, which is a smaller diameter than the big Peter Wright I now use. Short term, I think I will put a bend in it. Longer term, I will make a new one from more appropriate stock. Thanks!
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your generosity, I really appreciate it wild card, thank you 💚
Fenomenal;sua habilidade é admirável.
Muito obrigado
Good work. You didnt quench it really?
good learning by torbjörn Ahman i think...great work =)
Thanks Christoph 👍
Always great seeing these posts. Question about using mild steel, though. With a hold-fast, it is put in place by literally wedging the round or square section in to the hardy or pritchell (I use the round pritchel so I can reorient to any position). Once “wedged in” to hold down the item, you typically give the tool a decent tap to “lock it” in place. Now the question...using mild steel will -in very short time- lose “elasticity” that allows for the hold-fast to unbend from its application. Wouldn’t it be better to use a tool steel, or a recycled pry bar, or something? Otherwise, i believe within a short time it will need to be adjusted with every application and then cease to function all together...especially since these are not heat treated. Very nice video. Great quality, solid edits without too much extraneous time JUST hammering or using the press. Thank you! Mike
Firstly, thanks for leaving a comment and for the kind words.
Mild steel is a lot more durable and has a lot of memory, so the application is fine for what it is. it should last a few years and if it does lose its memory and start to unbend, all i have to do is warm it up and bend it back over cool it off and carry on using it. without any heat treatment or time spent to get it right, thats why i would use mild steel for this project. i can also cool it down if it takes a lot of heat from the material its holding down, just dunk in water and good to go with no chance of cracking.
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Спасибо
Great Video! How long did it take to forge the piece?
Love this, the 90 deg bend and all of it. One question mate, why the bend in the shaft that goes into the pritchel hole. Never seen that before, is it to give more purchase as you hit down, gives more pressure??? Top job mate.
Thanks Len! It was a mistake on my part, I didn't measure the pritchel hole correctly, so it was sloppy and wouldn't grab hold when hit. So had to bend it to get it to work 🤣 but it works now so all is good.
@@workingwithiron Ok yeah that explains it, thanks for that.
@@workingwithiron -- I was going to ask the same thing, never seen that before. You might be on to something though. I have a hold fast that's a little sloppy in the hole on one of my Anvils. Think I'll give your idea a try !!
If it doesn't work it can always be bend back straight, hope you get it sorted 🤜
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Wow how much does that anvil weigh? Also the quality is top notch :)
I have no idea but it's bloody massive 😉 thanks for letting me know 👍
@@workingwithiron The place I smith at has a 200kg anvil of a very similar style, and this thing absolutely dwarfs it. Wouldn't be surprised if the one you're working on here is 400kg or even more.
Just beautiful hammer control. Clean,clean,clean!
Оригинально!
Спасибо
Não sei à sua disponibilidade para produzir e editar os videos,mas nos que admiramos sua arte teriamos mais momentos de alegria se eles tivessem uma constância ou seja um menor tempo entre um video e outro seguinte.Muito obrigado.
Eu vou estar fazendo vídeos mais regulares a partir de agora. Eu estive ocupado com o trabalho e minha câmera quebrou lentamente ao longo do tempo e meu software de edição não pôde acompanhar as filmagens durante as edições, por isso não tive a chance de exibir tantos vídeos quanto queria. agora eu estou indo em tempo integral com o youtube, para que eles sejam muito mais regulares a partir de agora. obrigado novamente
How the hell does your steel stay so hot for so long???
i soak it, so get it hot, turn the air down and let that core get to the same temp as the outside. most people start working on the metal when it looks hot. its like cooking a steak. you would sear it on the outside then put it in the oven to cook through. same thing with forging metals.
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Not to tell you your business, but when making a crisp 90° bend by upsetting the material as you have done, use a bigger hammer and focus less on the sides of the hot metal til you get that material pushed down. I was kind of going crazy watching the inefficiency. Too much time spent examining the piece and lose heat lol. Maybe anneal the steel first too
i dont usually do this but im going to because of that last sentence.
its mild steel, annealing it will do nothing if im just going to heat it up and work it anyway. annealing is to relieve stresses from forging and changing section so much. its also used when you need to do cold work or filework etc. which i did none of.
Too much time spent examining the piece.... you realise you just watched a film right? im not doing this to show speed im doing this to show viewers the process and outcome. hence the highly exagerated time spent examining the piece.
The sides im forging back into the material so i stay on track and it also adds to the corner, slow and steady and i never went under size, thats the goal, upset, push side swell back and sharpen, and repeat until i got my desired shape, which it did.
A bigger hammer will probably work but it will also add a lot more bending and i like to show you dont need a big hammer to do nice work or things people think that needs a bigger hammer to do the same job.
You obviously know what you're doing but most of us watch these videos to LEARN what to do. How about speaking? Telling us what you're doing and why. Telling us which side of the hammer you're using. Nobody watches these video's to relax...
Check out some of my other videos, most of them are like what you are after I think. I made some with no narration to test the camera and mic. Like this one.
Dude you are slow!!! I could have made that in one heat!!!
That's great! Can't wait to see the video 👍
@@workingwithiron lol! Ummm I'll publish it ummm soon. No honestly great job Nathan! I knew that comment would get your attention. Are you working on anything right now? I know you are doing that big sculpture which is awesome. I'm just heading to the shop now to work on another toasting fork. Keep it up man!