I don't know how hot the take is, but if Anthrax does actually belong in the big 4. People argue for Testament, Exodus or whoever else... But in terms of actually being bigger, Anthrax is it. They're nowhere near Metallica, Megadeth, or Slayer so the better argument to me is that is should always have been the Big 3, but we have 4 and Anthrax belongs there.
Totally! The vocal harmony is heavy. It’s heavy musical intervals. Metal has forgotten that heavy isn’t just aggressive sounds and heavy mixing. It’s evil sounding intervals and such
@@Squidward_Tikiland Of course. You can sound heavy without incorporating all the essential metal elements or fitting into any metal sub-genre. Many rock and hard rock bands have done this in some of their songs.
My weird list of fave albums Slipknot iowa Lorna shore pain remains Scar culture inscribe Candiria The Process of Self-Development Burnt by the sun The Perfect Is the Enemy of the Good Hatebreed - all albums Wutang -36 chambers Pantera - southern trend kill Vision of disorder vision of disorder Korn self title Nothing face violence
The problem began when we started recording/mixing metal records like pop music. Like, not everything sounds inherently better with sampled drums, audio compression and the entire band locked into a click-track metronome.
I got friends from the periphery side of metal who can’t stand when everything isn’t a 5150 with heavy mids and perfect drums and it’s infuriating they just shoot down anything that has its own unique tone to it
@@Matthew_Klepadlo It's hard to come up with all the bands on the top of your mind and its easy to miss out on some. DragonForce is one of the more popular and 'stereotypical ones' but is not in themselves one of the defining bands per se. At least in more elitist circles, Helloween and Blind Guardian are the only ones really mentioned. Personally I think early Rhapsody deserves mention.
@@RaoulDuke613I'm no death core fan, but that was early death core. It still had a good guitar sound, that actually sounds metal, and human sounding drums
Speaking of guitarists that were so legendary that they've circled around to being slept on (like Slash) - Brian May still rules SO MUCH but I almost never hear his name mentioned in "fantastic guitarist" discussions
Only a die-hard metalhead would be all like... suddenly surprised to realise Slash is a phenomenally gifted guitarist & a stand-out talent of a generation.. - us rock guitarists already knew!
noone did powermetal better than Blind Guardian between 90-98, its even more than obvious! BG is the only power band a lot death, thrash and black metal fans listen to as well.
Fuck, in my experience that was always Helloween, as Blind Guardian goes into the "too whimsical" kind of power metal. Most fans of death, black etc. that I've known Like Helloween, definitely NOT Blind Guardian!
For me, Blind Guardian’s main appeals are their songwriting and Hansi’s powerful, expressive vocals. So much other power metal (for me) just has boring songs, soulless wankery, and singers who can hit the high notes but sing without any gravitas
I could never get into Blind Guardian because of Hansi’s vocals, it's the same problem I have with James LaBrie from Dream Theater as I just find both their vocals to be kinda thin & weak and quite frankly... a bit gaaaysounding😅
@@JEGilmore i honestly thought the newer albums sounded a bit thin... but classic albums light nightfall or imaginations from the other side are some of the best clean metal performances i've ever heard
I used to hunt Hansi guest appearances on other bands' stuff. They're amazing, for example on Edguy's Vain Glory Opera or Angra's Winds of Destination.
Blind Guardian may not be the best power metal band, but they are one of the best representatives for power metal because they have crossover appeal with their speed, thrash, and symphonic elements. One has to be very into power metal to appreciate the more power metal specific bands.
Slash is an interesting one. He became so overrated that a bunch people started to dislike him, now he's underrated. I think (at least for me) the main problem was that since he was the pioneer of such a famous sound, it has become generic sounding. When you hear a slash solo you know it's slash from the first note. His guitar sound and phrasing doesn't really differ from solo to solo. Don't get me wrong he's a genius player, but his solos seem so overdone that it's hard to sit there and like them (for me).
That’s what happened to numetal and even post hardcore as a whole. All the successors of that once unique formula wear it out to death and make even the origin seem vapid and cringe.
Slash has a really interesting thing going on (despite me never wanting to hear GnR again in my life, save a little Night Train or It's So Easy) in that despite coming up in a scene mobbed with EVH impersonators, his primary melodic influences seem to be Brian May and Prince--both of whom are ALSO underrated curly-haired "singing lead" players. Strangely enough, the 90's guy who he seemed to pass that stylistic torch to was another (shaven) curly-haired underrated soloist--Billy Corgan.
Reign In Blood is still one of the most genuinely heavy albums. A lot of the earlier death metal as well, like Carcass, Morbid Angel, Pestilence, etc. You started to get a lot of caricatures of "heavy" after that
First ????? Reign In Blood Are Thrash Speed ,,,,,,,,,,,,, and for Carcass ( Death Metal ) NOT that is Grind Core Metal ,,,,,,, but i am agree with your choice ,,,,
@@LosPompadores Carcass was straight-up Goregrind on their first two albums (you know, the stuff that sounds like ACTUAL toilet sounds and gurgling), their third was just straight-up death metal, and their fourth, Heartwork, was the first where they were playing melodic death metal (and there wasnt much grind influence remaining at that point at all).
Thing is that even with the deathcore song that was “not heavy” that you showed in the video, it is pretty heavy for the non metal heads (and heavy in general, if you take off your bias goggles). Since metal heads tend to listen to that type of music, they’re more used to it, meaning that it takes more for it to be heavy. You’re essentially desensitised to it. Arguably, traditional heavy metal is not as heavy as a lot of the metal that came after it, and yet people act like trad heavy metal is the epitome of heaviness. Also heavy does not always equal “good”, and not heavy doesn’t always equal “bad”
I had a Slaughter to Prevail song pop up in my recommended on here months back, and I went into it like "oh, these deathcore fuckers should be entertaining to watch" and now I listen to Slaughter to Prevail at least a few times a week. Don't care for all their music, but if you (the general you, not you specifically) don't think the slam section in Bonebreaker is heavy as hell (especially live in Moscow version), then I have a wildly different definition of heavy.
This is the same as a drug addiction you listen to metal as your main form of music eventually nothing will be really heavy anymore you have to get into some real gritty unconventional slam or avant gard noise doom or sludge stuff to get your heavy rocks off. It has not that much to do with the production of it it's more like your preference that you like less clean and produced sounds. Just like drugs take enough of them and over time you will not react the same and need harder shit to get your fix.
have to ration your self, take breaks as much as I hate triggers and overproduction, I found myself getting a nice fix from Rings of Saturn's Embryonic Anomoly instrumental version, but nothing beats the classics and giving them a 'break' for a period and then coming back to them I listened to Harvester of Sorrow for the first time in like 3-5 years the other day and YAAAA
Deathcore production might not be as raw heavy but the lyrical themes are a lot more believable and emotional. Pain Remains from Lorna Shores hits me harder emotionally than traditional brutal lyrics.
Surprisingly I agreed with almost all of these… not sure about the 2000s compared to the 80s but I understand your argument. A lot of the lesser known 80s metal bands were hurt bad by the lack of access to good production. Easy to come by good production is very readily available and was so in the 2000s. Comparatively I mean.
And that is what made them heavy. Deathlike Silence by Sodom sounds so raw and heavy because of the primitive production. Nothing recorded since the mid-90’s comes even close in heaviness.
@@BanjoSick I could concede to ‘raw’. There are heavy albums after the 90s but I agree with what Bradley said in so far as everything being to compressed.🤷🏼♂️
PunkRock MBA made a video about what constitutes 'Heavy', and it's pretty spot-on. A lot of supposed 'Heavy' is just shouty, whereas true heavy can be the vibe and ambience a band or song gives
Age is sometimes everything. I agree that there was an explosion of diversity in metal in the 2000s...but to my 80s/90s saturated ears (I'm 48), they all sounded like the bands that came before, with the main differences being production values, downtuning, and that 90% of new metal bands switched to non-melodic harsh vocals (because the world apparently ran out of actual singers?). Additionally, to say that the 80s/90s metal world is limited to "10 bands" also suggests that you didn't live through it. There were hundreds of metal bands back then, to the extent that I'm still discovering new ones even though I was there when they were actively releasing the albums. I would contend that you only know about a fraction of those bands because, like me with bands from the 60s and 70s, you've primarily been exposed to the ones that have attained some sort of "classic" status. That however doesn't mean a whole lot to me because the criteria for "classic" is nebulous and subjective; for example, I could name a number of albums that I consider to be every bit as classic as say Reign In Blood or Master Of Puppets.
yeah I'm still discovering stuff from back then to this day, and STILL trying to keep up with the new at the same time, it's tough. I'm two years younger than you, there was a treasure trove of stuff from back then that can be discovered.
The transition to harshness marked the end of metal as it was. Hardcore is pretty old. And thrash. There is some old thrash that is trying to be “demonic”. Black Sabbath sounded evil. A lot of psychedelic bands sounded evil to me. More than the harsher metal that came after.
The 2000s were such a cultural moment for both gaming and metal. Everyone was blasting bullet for my valentine while playing world of warcraft together. It was such a legendary time. People say 90s were the last decade that have a personality, but the 2000s DEFINIELY also did.
??????????? LOL go listin Walls Of Jericho Bro ,,,,,,,,, Stormwitch ???????? but the 3 first blind was awesome but again the same story ? all the times the same things ???????????
Better than modern Blind Guardian is easy to do. God Machine is dull as fuck, it's a travesty given what they've managed previously. The best new power-ish metal thing I've come across in years is easily From Hell With Love by Beast in Black. That combination of disco and completely unashamed power metal is just glorious.
"texture of the music" is exactly what I was looking for in how to describe what I was hearing becoming popularized. When the guitar isn't doing some modern industrial screeching its just indistinguishable on what its doing in the background.
there was NOTHING really like the first ep or Walls of Jericho, both changed the world pretty much. Satan's Court in the Act was kind of a precursor, but Helloween solidified that power metal sound that Dragonforce seem to never give them credit for.
There are some classic bands that are still releasing heavy tracks, like Megadeth for example. But in other hands the biggest part of them are out of game
I listened to Megadeths new album, and while it has some sick tracks like we'll be back and the song about helicopters attacking in the night, it's quite boring tbh
@@AcidifiedMammothi mean.. it was probably considered heavy once, but it's marginably more heavy than most radio rock bands today? It's barely heavy at all. Doesnt mean its bad, but I personally have never been able to consider them heavy.
When people will discover that heavy or not heavy is personal. Really, for some people STP are pretty damn heavy, even barely unlistenable, but for me it's fine.
Stone Temple Pilots? Core and Purple are pretty heavy if that’s who you’re talking about. I loved how messy those grunge bands were STP AIC Soundgarden etc. Jesus Christ Pose is heavy in a way more interesting way than anything in Deatcore/Metalcore imo.
Exactly, to me Rammstein is still the heaviest band I've listened to, but most of these modern heavy bands I don't really find heavy, they just become noise in my opinion
@@GonzoIV love that Rammstein, Fear Factory and Ministry sound. I think even Dimmu Borgir’s Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia has that vibe electronic drum pads gives.
Absolutely. Nobody seems to realise that it's WHAT you play - the notes and the emotion and the vibe that make stuff heavy, NOT the sound or the technicality. Way too many people thing their guitars are berimbaus and use them as percussion instruments percussive chugging their lowest string, and it's boring as fuck. A good riff is truly heavy and good when it sound heavy on every instrument - play slayer on piano and it sounds heavy asf, play idk, meshuggah or some techdjentcore shit on piano and all you do is spam one key/note repeatedly for 8+ min straight in a weird technical polyrhythm and expect people to drool all over you because wopeedoo you're such a technical player💀.
@@AnkothOfficial if it sounds Good it sounds Good whether it's simple or technical. It's just a matter of what YOU the Listener thinks SOUNDS GOOD . Enjoy what you think Sounds Good to YOU .HAVE FUN AND ENJOY LIFE . DON'T FRET THE TRIVIAL BS.
Rhapsody was my favorite power metal band when I was a teen. Props for mentioning Lost Horizon (probably one of the best vocalists in the genre) and Galneryus (I was obsessed with Silent Revelation)
yeah I'll never forget getting the first Rhapsody cd from mail orde back in the ninetiesr, opening the booklet was like opening an old school fantasy RPG book and you couldn't help but laugh even if you loved it!
In high school saw a girl wearing an AC/DC shirt and I said "hell yeah, what's your favorite song of theirs?" And she asked wtf was I talking about, I said AC/DC is a bad ass rock band and she literally said "I thought it was a brand of clothing" she was a preppy and bought all her clothes from Abercrombie and Fitch, or would "slum it up sometimes" (her exact words) and get stuff from Pacsun. She revealed what a snobby shit she was so I referred to her as Abercrombie's bitch from that point forward.
The greatness of the 80s was condensed down to 10 bands or so? NOT AT ALL! There were HUNDREDS of great bands in the 80s if you look a little deeper. Most of them only released a couple albums though - but I really advice anyone to dig a little deeper into the hidden gems. Crimson Glory, Jag Panzer, Savatage, Virgin Steele, Liege Lord, and then the hundreds of awesome Thrash bands. Why do people think the 80s was all about just 10 bands?!?
Whatever the artistic field, time does a strong job at amplifying the exposure differences. On one hand, we lose a lot of good stuff, but fortunatelly almost all of the garbage.
Exactly, it's ignorant to think that the 80s was just a handful of classic bands and little else. It literally went from NWOBHM to death / black and even war metal within the same decade. Arguably the 90s was the most diverse era for metal though.
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It feels like one band in particular is missing here - that is Meshuggah. In terms of "heaviness" and "thickness" they are, hands down, on Number 1. Likes of Slayer, Metallica, Pantera, NiN, all them Nu Metal bands, Gojira etc.... they are heavy, yes. But listen, even though Meshuggah writes somewhat complex songs, their sound is above everything else. The whole Album "Koloss" does also sound like it - and with improving technology, their sound just becomes heavier and heavier during each album cycle - they even managed to recreate that heaviness live. It's mind-blowing. They don't receive the credit when it comes to the question "who is heaviest" because people only name them when it comes to "Djent" or "Prog/Math Metal" questions... which is sad.
@@Drewsvids-rf1mj slayer is heavy? to me Slayer drowns in Kerry Kings absolutely horrible guitar-playing and vocals that sound more like plunging a bag of chicken bones in to a blender. There are a few memorable moments, but most of those are also just ruined by nonsense. Like the intro and first riff of Raining Blood is awesome, but then promptly ruined by chromatic babble played at high speeds and tone-deaf vocals
I find that Power Metal doesn’t keep up with what the rest of metal is doing, experimenting with different sounds and subgenres. While quality stuff is released, there’s less bands willing to break conventions than in other subgenres
Helloween I'll agree with, Other than Keeper of the Seven Keys I'm not that bothered with them. But I do love me some Blind Guardian Are there better bands, yes but I would certainly not consider them mid at all.
lol seriously Masterplan and At Vance are infinitely better bands and coherent songwriters. Best Halloween music isn’t even in Halloween’s discography.
Galneryus is relatively unknown in the west. but I've been listening to them since 2006. One of the genre's best. I apreciate the fact that you gave them a shoutout!
It’s a very dude repped space, same with the -core scene. Can’t talk about female bands, let alone ones from Japan lest you be labeled something absurd.
There are still heavy modern bands but what I hate is the idea of "downtuning = heavy". No. If your music is heavy, it's gonna be heavy in standard tuning. Downtuned djent isn't heavy, standard tuning from older bands is way heavier than any djent. Now if you write music that is already heavy in standard, then downtune it. Now it's brutal.
@@symptomofsouls In a sense, downtuning CAN and DOES equal heavy. Not that you should rely on it, but different pitches DO make a difference. Hence why you said "take something already heavy in standard, downtune, now it's brutal". Listen to some orchestral music. When those bass instruments hit, they HIT.
I really appreciate the quick summary of the Loudness War in a way non-audiophiles and non-metalheads can understand as well as the shoutout of Lost Horizon. A Flame to The Ground Beneath is a one-album wonder for sure, though I enjoy a bit of the debut as well.
Deathcore then: it's hardcore + death metal Deathcore now: is THIS the HEAVIEST BREAKDOWN EVER? [REACTION] THIS is the HEAVIEST breakdown of 2024 [REACTION] | part 3. can METAL be more HEAVY??? [REACTION] THIS breakdown is pure MADNESS!!! [REACTION]
I found a video "Scream Bloody Gore B tuning" and it sounds heavier than any deathcore I've ever heard. The album is already heavy as it is, but 1987 Death just pitch shifted down is even heavier than the 7,8, and 9 string stuff of today for some reason.
6:40 I just yesterday (for some reason) remembered this clip I've seen >10 years ago but couldn't remember the name of the band or the song to find it. Thank you, man
Its fair to call Helloween Heavy Metal band because they tend to change their sounds a lot. Their first album is Trash metal. The only Power metal albums they made are Keepers of the Seven Key Part I and Part II, The Time of the Oath and Master of the Ring and their latest album Helloween (tbf those are their iconic albums). The rest are progressive or just straight up Heavy metal. Kinda sad tho that you called Helloween mid. But yea Galneryus and Beast in Black are amazing
Oooooh get you ..... The moment you start any sentence with 'to be honest' anybody with any sense just switches of immediately, as the next thing to fall out your mouth is just utter drivel. Grow up.
Love the power metal take. I saw Twilight Force WITH Gloryhammer this spring. It was freaking insane and I lost my voice for like a full week after that.
I love Lorna Shore and modern deathcore like Synesthia's Poetic Edda, but I feel like I miss the mix ups and down time sometimes necessary to create narrative flow. I know it's a meme, but the tempo changes on The Sound of Perseverance are a nice break without losing anything.
Deathcore is still heavy, that hasn't changed, maybe it doesn't have that rawer sound that it had before but it still holds up very well, Lorna Shore's example is from Blacknead Deathcore, the point of combining deathcore with black metal makes the riffs not sound particularly heavy, but if you keep listening to the new Chelsea Grin, Thy art is murder, etc, it's still heavy in my opinion
I disagree, I find it rather tame and overly simplistic. Anyone can do the djent thing and the only band that scratches that itch is Meshuggah and only certain songs that are more thrashy, like The Hurt That Finds You First, War, and Paralyzing Ignorance. What really scratches that fast and heavy itch is Canadian Tech Death, namely Archspire and Beyond Creation.
@@PMMcIntyre there is nothing simplistic about Lorna shore mate, that's copium. You may not like their vibe, that's perfectly fine, but saying Adam doesn't shred and makes simple music is a joke. Dean Lamb from Archspire himself has even called Adam of Lorna Shore a technical mastermind and struggled to play some of his rifffs at even 75% speed. Meshuggah might have been the forerunners of "the djent thing" but they in no way have ever been part of that whole thing. Meshuggah is no more "djent" than Sabbath is death metal. Just because it inspired it, doesn't make it the same thing.
@@nordfald3740 Dean Lamb was being humble. It always takes a while to learn someone else's stuff. You sound like an absolute f***** using "vibe" to describe the feeling of their music and saying I'm on copium. I'm not. I listen to their stuff and I'm impressed by the speed, but they completely ruin the flow of their songs with those ridiculous breakdowns, which is also cringe. Meshuggah has always been djent, what are you even talking about, lol. What followed was a bunch of copycats trying to say they are djent, but completely lack any talent, with the exception of maybe a couple of bands. Sabbath was never considered death metal, they've always been heavy metal.
@@nordfald3740 your comment is pure cringe. Dean was being humble. It always takes time to learn other people's stuff and he didn't have the time. I've listened to a lot of their songs and I'm not really impressed. They can play fast and the drummer is a beast, but the riffs aren't really that complicated. They just play them fast, giving the illusion of difficulty. Archspire's riffs are much more difficult to play, even slow. What are you even talking about? Meshuggah is literally djent and have always been djent. They literally invented the sound. Black Sabbath was never death metal, lmao
Lol, calling Helloween and Blind Guardian "mid" is a terrible take. As someone who listened to them for almost 20 years I can pretty much say you didn't even hear enough of their songs to call them "mid". They basically pionereed an entirely new genre, not to mention MIchael Kiske's incredible vocals. All the bands you mentioned that "did it better" sound exactly like imitators and poor man's Helloween and Blind Guardian. I tried listening Dragon Force and it was one of the most boring bands I've heard mainly because of the fact that all of their songs sound very similar and some even the same. They're to me exactly like AC/DC and Motorhead of their genres when it comes to power metal music; very little variety in their songs and most of the stuff sound the same. Most of Dragon Force and "new power metal" stuff is just soulless wankery with same "tupa tupa" drum beat. That's 100% not the case with Helloween and Blindguardian.
If we're talking power metal, my go to band atm has been Sacred Outcry and their latest album Tower of Gold where they got Lost Horizons old singer to sing for the album. An absolute banger from start to finish if you ask me
This is one of the silliest arguments people make. "BACK IN MY DAY, METAL WAS HEAVY!" Grandpa, back in your day, the only way to distort amplifiers was to turn them up so loud that they damaged everyone's hearing. That's why you're deaf, grandpa. Fact of the matter is, with all the technological advancements in guitar gear and recording gear since 1970, metal is heavier than it has ever been. In fact, we have reached the point where certain metal (and hardcore) guitar players are tuning their guitars so low that it's become hard for the human ear to discern properly. (Most humans cannot hear frequencies below the note C0 [aka "16.35Hz"].) That's how good the technology has become: that guitar players are able to, if they desire, tune their 8 string guitars to the limit of human hearing (or use pitch shifting to do the same) AND that we can mix songs such that it's not just a muddy mess when they do. That's heavy, grandpa!
The best power metal band was a band in the '80s called "Manowar". Until recently, there had been a Manowar tribute band touring the world doing half-arsed covers.
"A heavy sound" is very subjective. I, for example, don't think that Suicide silence album with fast blastbeats is heavy, I just think it's "aggressive". But the song "The god that failed" of heavy Metallica. In my opinion, heavy makes me think of something "slow", when it's fast (even if it has distorted guitars, gulturals, etc...), it's just "aggressive" for me. The heaviest sound I've ever heard in my life was the breakdown of the song "five nails through the neck" by Cannibal Corpse.
Galneryus rules! Silent Revelation and the solos in Whisper in the Red sky are must listens. Been hooked on Moonlight Rendezvous by Beast in Black lately. And the new Amaranthe.
Agreed, Lorna Shores sounds washed up to me (I'm a sound engineer and DJ, noticed loudness wars quite a while ago in the EDM business) - trying some Slaughter to Prevail at the moment but it feels like they applied just one set recipe for every song, and solos are lacking -sounds like gunfire punctuated with tiny little guitar squeals here and there. Kind of heavy but kind of lacking something, bands like Fear Factory were already doing the snare/kick/guitar automatic rifle sound in the 90s. If STP did put a little extra groove and melody in there, it would sound heavier.
My FAVOURITE power metal band is Thunderstone! These are incredibly amazing and I LUST for ANYTHING new from them for YEARS! I like blind Guardian sure (I worked with Hansi Kürschs brother in law for several years) but power metal has way more variety to offer than the usual suspects 🤘🏻
I like Slash and yes very juicy and bluesy. Yeah Velvet Revolver had some nice songs, could really tell it a melting of GnR and STP, I liked them growing up, they were different same as AIC and loved Lanes voice too
What do you think of our takes then? What are some of YOUR hottest takes??
Black veil brides are metal
Bury tomorrow up and comeing metal band
excessive amounts of death-themed lyrics are dumb
I don't know how hot the take is, but if Anthrax does actually belong in the big 4. People argue for Testament, Exodus or whoever else... But in terms of actually being bigger, Anthrax is it. They're nowhere near Metallica, Megadeth, or Slayer so the better argument to me is that is should always have been the Big 3, but we have 4 and Anthrax belongs there.
If you have clean pop vocals on a metal song I am never listening to your band again
Just not for me, man
That you were saying knocked loose new album was mixed good and then you complain about over compressed loudness war produced bands
Scientists have weighed in and reportedly, different types of metals have different weights. The lightest of these metals indeed have a metallic core.
What's heavier: A kilogram of steel, or a kilogram of feathers?
Metul 🤘
@@CalvinJournoyour mother
@@CalvinJourno classic 🍻
Alice in chains "Them Bones", is a perfect example of heavy but not over loud and still dark!
Totally! The vocal harmony is heavy. It’s heavy musical intervals. Metal has forgotten that heavy isn’t just aggressive sounds and heavy mixing. It’s evil sounding intervals and such
Creature of the wheel by white zombie is super loud and super heavy, but that's because it slows tf down enough to be groovy and doomy.
@@Squidward_Tikiland
Of course. You can sound heavy without incorporating all the essential metal elements or fitting into any metal sub-genre.
Many rock and hard rock bands have done this in some of their songs.
My weird list of fave albums
Slipknot iowa
Lorna shore pain remains
Scar culture inscribe
Candiria The Process of Self-Development
Burnt by the sun The Perfect Is the Enemy of the Good
Hatebreed - all albums
Wutang -36 chambers
Pantera - southern trend kill
Vision of disorder vision of disorder
Korn self title
Nothing face violence
The problem began when we started recording/mixing metal records like pop music. Like, not everything sounds inherently better with sampled drums, audio compression and the entire band locked into a click-track metronome.
I got friends from the periphery side of metal who can’t stand when everything isn’t a 5150 with heavy mids and perfect drums and it’s infuriating they just shoot down anything that has its own unique tone to it
True!
Agreed it lost the raw bleeding edge
Lots of badass death metal bands are delivering the goods right now. 200 Stab Wounds, Terminal Nation, Upon Stone and Creeping Death
@@Goose21 It don't matter what side of metal you're on, that behavior deserves a slapping,.
cha'in about me'al, innit?
*aba'
Wot
I will accept no Blind Guardian slander.
Blind Guardian are by far the best Power Metal band out there. Some would say, they are the only good one.
@@BanjoSick To me they sound absolutely generic, and far less interesting than Stratovarius or Rhapsody.
@@thetk9622 what would you recommend by them that you'd say is less generic?
I have not listened to much by either band
@@BanjoSick "only good one" eh I wouldn't go that far.
@@JEGilmoreIf you want the legendary stuff, go for any album after the Battalions of Fear and before A Night at the Opera.
>Says power metal is his favorite.
>Doesn't even mention of Stratovarius.
The fucking accent makes me wanna vomit mämmi. But other than that it's good stuff
Also
>Talks about '00 metal
>Doesn't mention CoB
Or Dragonforce for that matter. Aren't these guys literally THE quintessential power metal folk? IDK
@@Matthew_Klepadlothe quintessential power metal band is Helloween
@@Matthew_Klepadlo
It's hard to come up with all the bands on the top of your mind and its easy to miss out on some. DragonForce is one of the more popular and 'stereotypical ones' but is not in themselves one of the defining bands per se. At least in more elitist circles, Helloween and Blind Guardian are the only ones really mentioned. Personally I think early Rhapsody deserves mention.
0:49 If this came out today, these people would still say it's not heavy
and it's pish
@@nigelsmith721 substantiate that if you'd please
@@BetterCallThall I shall.
Add the following text to my original comment…
“…in my opinion”.
If it came out today, it'd be as unoriginal and paint by numbers as the rest of the deathcore coming out today.
@@RaoulDuke613I'm no death core fan, but that was early death core. It still had a good guitar sound, that actually sounds metal, and human sounding drums
Speaking of guitarists that were so legendary that they've circled around to being slept on (like Slash) - Brian May still rules SO MUCH but I almost never hear his name mentioned in "fantastic guitarist" discussions
You can tell Blind Guardian's guitar melodies and arrangements were heavily influenced by Queen.
@@ms-06fzakuii53if I remembered correctly, they cited Queen as one of the inspirations back then.
Metal guys don’t generally like queen but soft musicians definitely talk about queen and Brian may fairly often
Soundgarden's Fourth of July sounds more menacing to me than contemporary deathcore and metalcore.
i was just talking to someone about how heavy that one is
Hell, even Nickelback sounds heavier
That's because that song is sludge
sludge >>>>>>> metalcore and deathcore
One of Chris' best lyrics. Incredible song.
@@markopetrovic5765Feed the Machine and This Is War actually are really, really heavy.
Only a die-hard metalhead would be all like... suddenly surprised to realise Slash is a phenomenally gifted guitarist & a stand-out talent of a generation.. - us rock guitarists already knew!
Rock and metal guitarist since forever (and before Slash) here. To me he's good for stealing an Iommi riff and wearing a childish hat.
noone did powermetal better than Blind Guardian between 90-98, its even more than obvious! BG is the only power band a lot death, thrash and black metal fans listen to as well.
Blind Guardian are the goats
Fuck, in my experience that was always Helloween, as Blind Guardian goes into the "too whimsical" kind of power metal. Most fans of death, black etc. that I've known Like Helloween, definitely NOT Blind Guardian!
@@MoonOvIce the early 90's albums from Blind Guardian were more trashy and straight forward. I love them even though I can't stand modern power metal
Lost in the twilight hall!
I dunno, I think sonata Arctica held up pretty strong
i think i’m the only huge Iced Earth fan in the world, but i love their darker take on power metal
Not the only one.
Still my favorite band. Them and blind guardian both have the best power metal crossover sound imo
@@stefvanroey8191Demons & Wizards never misses
Iced Earth - Greenface
Dark Saga is one of my all time favorites 🤘💀🤘
Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new sound.
Funny, but it's still rock and roll to me.
Hot funk, cool punk, even if its old junk
Alright grandpa, let's get you to bed
@@pulsar676 but I haven't finished my pudding, and Matlock just started.
I never liked Billy Joel's music all that much other than his band Atilla, but his lyrics were always pretty rad
At least he's not an elitist. Different sub-genres are equal under that line of thinking. Taste is a matter of opinion
The stream for this was like 3 months ago
He Uploaded It And He Took It Down And Now He ReUploaded It
Yes, I thought I was losing my mind. Thank you
@@randomdude2531turns out he's just losing his mind.
Yeah I had to reupload due to some bullshit copyright stuff RIP
@@BradleyHallGuitar ah ok by the way… trivium please??
For me, Blind Guardian’s main appeals are their songwriting and Hansi’s powerful, expressive vocals.
So much other power metal (for me) just has boring songs, soulless wankery, and singers who can hit the high notes but sing without any gravitas
I could never get into Blind Guardian because of Hansi’s vocals, it's the same problem I have with James LaBrie from Dream Theater as I just find both their vocals to be kinda thin & weak and quite frankly... a bit gaaaysounding😅
@@DarkArterialGore I would be curious to know what BG songs you've listened to, because I've never heard anyone describe Hansi's voice as thin before.
@@DarkArterialGoreTo me, Hansi sounds ( and looks) like the 40-year old cool uncle i never had.
@@JEGilmore i honestly thought the newer albums sounded a bit thin... but classic albums light nightfall or imaginations from the other side are some of the best clean metal performances i've ever heard
I used to hunt Hansi guest appearances on other bands' stuff. They're amazing, for example on Edguy's Vain Glory Opera or Angra's Winds of Destination.
Blind Guardian may not be the best power metal band, but they are one of the best representatives for power metal because they have crossover appeal with their speed, thrash, and symphonic elements. One has to be very into power metal to appreciate the more power metal specific bands.
They are mostly known for their lord of the rings theme
And for being a studio band
They are the best power metal band though 😅
Slash is an interesting one. He became so overrated that a bunch people started to dislike him, now he's underrated. I think (at least for me) the main problem was that since he was the pioneer of such a famous sound, it has become generic sounding. When you hear a slash solo you know it's slash from the first note. His guitar sound and phrasing doesn't really differ from solo to solo. Don't get me wrong he's a genius player, but his solos seem so overdone that it's hard to sit there and like them (for me).
I can't even with sweet child on mine its awesome but I would never learn how to play it bc it's so fuckin over played.
That’s what happened to numetal and even post hardcore as a whole. All the successors of that once unique formula wear it out to death and make even the origin seem vapid and cringe.
That's what happens when you become more image that musician. According to South he's no more real than Santa.
@@poulwinther I see why tbf. He really is more of an image, honestly I hear the name slash I think more about him rather than his guitar playing.
Slash has a really interesting thing going on (despite me never wanting to hear GnR again in my life, save a little Night Train or It's So Easy) in that despite coming up in a scene mobbed with EVH impersonators, his primary melodic influences seem to be Brian May and Prince--both of whom are ALSO underrated curly-haired "singing lead" players. Strangely enough, the 90's guy who he seemed to pass that stylistic torch to was another (shaven) curly-haired underrated soloist--Billy Corgan.
I love it when people actually realize slash’s incredible musicianship and touch. Thanks!
Reign In Blood is still one of the most genuinely heavy albums. A lot of the earlier death metal as well, like Carcass, Morbid Angel, Pestilence, etc. You started to get a lot of caricatures of "heavy" after that
First ????? Reign In Blood Are Thrash Speed ,,,,,,,,,,,,, and for Carcass ( Death Metal ) NOT that is Grind Core Metal ,,,,,,, but i am agree with your choice ,,,,
@@dannywaysted I didn't call Slayer Death Metal. Carcass genre is debatable. It's grind core but also melodic death metal.
@@LosPompadores Carcass was straight-up Goregrind on their first two albums (you know, the stuff that sounds like ACTUAL toilet sounds and gurgling), their third was just straight-up death metal, and their fourth, Heartwork, was the first where they were playing melodic death metal (and there wasnt much grind influence remaining at that point at all).
Pantera ruled the 90’s for a reason after Metallica became unheavy, started with Vulgar Display of Power
Personally, Godflesh's Streetcleaner was the pinnacle of heavy, along with Terrorizer's 'World Downfall'
Thing is that even with the deathcore song that was “not heavy” that you showed in the video, it is pretty heavy for the non metal heads (and heavy in general, if you take off your bias goggles). Since metal heads tend to listen to that type of music, they’re more used to it, meaning that it takes more for it to be heavy. You’re essentially desensitised to it. Arguably, traditional heavy metal is not as heavy as a lot of the metal that came after it, and yet people act like trad heavy metal is the epitome of heaviness. Also heavy does not always equal “good”, and not heavy doesn’t always equal “bad”
Finally man with brains
@@ChainsawSlammer1.3.8 I’m a girl lol, but thanks XD
Fair point!
I had a Slaughter to Prevail song pop up in my recommended on here months back, and I went into it like "oh, these deathcore fuckers should be entertaining to watch" and now I listen to Slaughter to Prevail at least a few times a week. Don't care for all their music, but if you (the general you, not you specifically) don't think the slam section in Bonebreaker is heavy as hell (especially live in Moscow version), then I have a wildly different definition of heavy.
@@octopusyogurt1883 Well, girls are like man, but with brains, so it makes sense.
ORNAGE JUICE
How metal is not heavy anymore.
My iron bar is still heavy
Iron Bar…bell?🤔
This is the same as a drug addiction you listen to metal as your main form of music eventually nothing will be really heavy anymore you have to get into some real gritty unconventional slam or avant gard noise doom or sludge stuff to get your heavy rocks off. It has not that much to do with the production of it it's more like your preference that you like less clean and produced sounds. Just like drugs take enough of them and over time you will not react the same and need harder shit to get your fix.
have to ration your self, take breaks
as much as I hate triggers and overproduction, I found myself getting a nice fix from Rings of Saturn's Embryonic Anomoly instrumental version, but
nothing beats the classics and giving them a 'break' for a period and then coming back to them
I listened to Harvester of Sorrow for the first time in like 3-5 years the other day and YAAAA
still doesn't get heavier than Soulfly - Primitive album for me
In addition to the compression thing, it seems people also started thinking heavy and low was the same thing when it is not.
Deathcore production might not be as raw heavy but the lyrical themes are a lot more believable and emotional. Pain Remains from Lorna Shores hits me harder emotionally than traditional brutal lyrics.
Real shit
This same line of thinking is why I will contend that Load/Reload era Metallica is still heavy even besides some of the heavy-ass riffs.
LOL
Emo core
@@robertl.wilson1199 emo has a lot of clean singing though and i dont think there's a second of that in the entire album
Surprisingly I agreed with almost all of these… not sure about the 2000s compared to the 80s but I understand your argument.
A lot of the lesser known 80s metal bands were hurt bad by the lack of access to good production. Easy to come by good production is very readily available and was so in the 2000s. Comparatively I mean.
And that is what made them heavy. Deathlike Silence by Sodom sounds so raw and heavy because of the primitive production. Nothing recorded since the mid-90’s comes even close in heaviness.
@@BanjoSick I could concede to ‘raw’. There are heavy albums after the 90s but I agree with what Bradley said in so far as everything being to compressed.🤷🏼♂️
PunkRock MBA made a video about what constitutes 'Heavy', and it's pretty spot-on. A lot of supposed 'Heavy' is just shouty, whereas true heavy can be the vibe and ambience a band or song gives
Age is sometimes everything. I agree that there was an explosion of diversity in metal in the 2000s...but to my 80s/90s saturated ears (I'm 48), they all sounded like the bands that came before, with the main differences being production values, downtuning, and that 90% of new metal bands switched to non-melodic harsh vocals (because the world apparently ran out of actual singers?).
Additionally, to say that the 80s/90s metal world is limited to "10 bands" also suggests that you didn't live through it. There were hundreds of metal bands back then, to the extent that I'm still discovering new ones even though I was there when they were actively releasing the albums. I would contend that you only know about a fraction of those bands because, like me with bands from the 60s and 70s, you've primarily been exposed to the ones that have attained some sort of "classic" status. That however doesn't mean a whole lot to me because the criteria for "classic" is nebulous and subjective; for example, I could name a number of albums that I consider to be every bit as classic as say Reign In Blood or Master Of Puppets.
yeah I'm still discovering stuff from back then to this day, and STILL trying to keep up with the new at the same time, it's tough. I'm two years younger than you, there was a treasure trove of stuff from back then that can be discovered.
ok boomer
@@joshuabridges1597 You might want to do a bit of research. I gave you my age after all.
@@joshuabridges1597 He can't be a boomer with that age, try and keep up.
The transition to harshness marked the end of metal as it was. Hardcore is pretty old. And thrash. There is some old thrash that is trying to be “demonic”. Black Sabbath sounded evil. A lot of psychedelic bands sounded evil to me. More than the harsher metal that came after.
The 2000s were such a cultural moment for both gaming and metal. Everyone was blasting bullet for my valentine while playing world of warcraft together. It was such a legendary time. People say 90s were the last decade that have a personality, but the 2000s DEFINIELY also did.
Nobody makes power metal better than blind guardian.
??????????? LOL go listin Walls Of Jericho Bro ,,,,,,,,, Stormwitch ???????? but the 3 first blind was awesome but again the same story ? all the times the same things ???????????
Better than modern Blind Guardian is easy to do. God Machine is dull as fuck, it's a travesty given what they've managed previously. The best new power-ish metal thing I've come across in years is easily From Hell With Love by Beast in Black. That combination of disco and completely unashamed power metal is just glorious.
wrong, their only good album is a NIght at the Opera. most of the rest is unlistenable
Blind Guardian is definitely one of the most well-known, but in my book, Galneryus is better, at least currently.
@@Elmothefuzzle 😂 at least say nightfall or twilight
"texture of the music" is exactly what I was looking for in how to describe what I was hearing becoming popularized. When the guitar isn't doing some modern industrial screeching its just indistinguishable on what its doing in the background.
I was so happy to see you mention Galneryus in the Power Metal segment
It‘s because Helloween and Blind Guardian are the GOATS of the genre for a reason!
Nah
H is cheesy
They are
there was NOTHING really like the first ep or Walls of Jericho, both changed the world pretty much. Satan's Court in the Act was kind of a precursor, but Helloween solidified that power metal sound that Dragonforce seem to never give them credit for.
@@themadmattster9647I love the EP and Walls of Jericho. Very speed metal.
There are some classic bands that are still releasing heavy tracks, like Megadeth for example. But in other hands the biggest part of them are out of game
I listened to Megadeths new album, and while it has some sick tracks like we'll be back and the song about helicopters attacking in the night, it's quite boring tbh
Megadeth has never been heavy.
@@maynardburgerYeah sure lol, next thing you're gonna tell me is Megadeth makes pop music.
@@AcidifiedMammothi mean.. it was probably considered heavy once, but it's marginably more heavy than most radio rock bands today? It's barely heavy at all. Doesnt mean its bad, but I personally have never been able to consider them heavy.
@@AcidifiedMammoth
Nah, he's going to tell cheeseburger do not have cheese in it.
Fcking gatekeeping. I hate these elitists.
😂😂😂
When people will discover that heavy or not heavy is personal. Really, for some people STP are pretty damn heavy, even barely unlistenable, but for me it's fine.
Stone Temple Pilots? Core and Purple are pretty heavy if that’s who you’re talking about. I loved how messy those grunge bands were STP AIC Soundgarden etc. Jesus Christ Pose is heavy in a way more interesting way than anything in Deatcore/Metalcore imo.
I'm pretty sure it's Slaughter To Prevail he's talking about@@Re-Todd_Howard
@@Piccolo_core but don’t they do all the things Bradley is talking about in this video? The compression? My bad then ig.
Exactly, to me Rammstein is still the heaviest band I've listened to, but most of these modern heavy bands I don't really find heavy, they just become noise in my opinion
@@GonzoIV love that Rammstein, Fear Factory and Ministry sound. I think even Dimmu Borgir’s Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia has that vibe electronic drum pads gives.
90s gotta be my fav metal decade, death and black metal were popping off
Weird thing is that bands think they are heavy because the have guitars with eight strings. Reign in Blood are heavier than all of them.
I go 6 string drop d . Lowest I go is Drop C and also Standard
Absolutely. Nobody seems to realise that it's WHAT you play - the notes and the emotion and the vibe that make stuff heavy, NOT the sound or the technicality. Way too many people thing their guitars are berimbaus and use them as percussion instruments percussive chugging their lowest string, and it's boring as fuck. A good riff is truly heavy and good when it sound heavy on every instrument - play slayer on piano and it sounds heavy asf, play idk, meshuggah or some techdjentcore shit on piano and all you do is spam one key/note repeatedly for 8+ min straight in a weird technical polyrhythm and expect people to drool all over you because wopeedoo you're such a technical player💀.
That album sucks and sounds like elevator music compared to seasons in the abyss and sepultura albums
@@AnkothOfficial if it sounds Good it sounds Good whether it's simple or technical. It's just a matter of what YOU the Listener thinks SOUNDS GOOD . Enjoy what you think Sounds Good to YOU .HAVE FUN AND ENJOY LIFE . DON'T FRET THE TRIVIAL BS.
Why, thank you ....
”Heir Apparent” by Opeth is heavier than 99% of deathcore and it’s in standard tuning.
Rhapsody was my favorite power metal band when I was a teen.
Props for mentioning Lost Horizon (probably one of the best vocalists in the genre) and Galneryus (I was obsessed with Silent Revelation)
Rhapsody are legends!
yeah I'll never forget getting the first Rhapsody cd from mail orde back in the ninetiesr, opening the booklet was like opening an old school fantasy RPG book and you couldn't help but laugh even if you loved it!
More Galneryus songs to try:
1. Destiny
2. The Followers
3. Struggle for Freedom Flag
4. Heavy Curse
5. Point of no return
Metal is still heavy to me
It's heavier than ever
Nah dude. Any genre of music someone is wearing band shirts when they don't even listen is wrong. Lol.
In high school saw a girl wearing an AC/DC shirt and I said "hell yeah, what's your favorite song of theirs?" And she asked wtf was I talking about, I said AC/DC is a bad ass rock band and she literally said "I thought it was a brand of clothing" she was a preppy and bought all her clothes from Abercrombie and Fitch, or would "slum it up sometimes" (her exact words) and get stuff from Pacsun. She revealed what a snobby shit she was so I referred to her as Abercrombie's bitch from that point forward.
The greatness of the 80s was condensed down to 10 bands or so?
NOT AT ALL! There were HUNDREDS of great bands in the 80s if you look a little deeper.
Most of them only released a couple albums though - but I really advice anyone to dig a little deeper into the hidden gems. Crimson Glory, Jag Panzer, Savatage, Virgin Steele, Liege Lord, and then the hundreds of awesome Thrash bands.
Why do people think the 80s was all about just 10 bands?!?
Whatever the artistic field, time does a strong job at amplifying the exposure differences. On one hand, we lose a lot of good stuff, but fortunatelly almost all of the garbage.
Exactly, it's ignorant to think that the 80s was just a handful of classic bands and little else. It literally went from NWOBHM to death / black and even war metal within the same decade. Arguably the 90s was the most diverse era for metal though.
Ah, another based USPM enjoyer
Sword, Chastain, Manilla Road, Grim Reaper, Omen, Vicious Rumors, Medieval Steel, Cirith Ungol, Attacker, Powermad
Cuz they’re lazy. Same reason why people think modern stuff is bad.
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Baked beans occurred in Native American cuisine, and are made from beans indigenous to the Americas.[3] It is thought that the dish was adopted and adapted by English colonists in New England in the 17th century and, through cookbooks published in the 19th century, spread to other regions of the United States and into Canada.[3] However, the connection to Native American cuisine may be apocryphal, as legumes such as broad beans and lentils prepared in various sauces had been established in European cuisine long before the Middle Ages. Today, in the New England region of the United States, a variety of indigenous legumes are used in restaurants or in the home, such as Jacob's cattle, soldier beans, yellow-eyed beans, and navy beans (also known as native beans).[3]
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Today, baked beans are served throughout the United States alongside barbecue foods and at picnics. Beans in a brown sugar, sugar, or corn syrup sauce (with or without tomatoes) are widely available throughout the United States. Bush Brothers are the largest producer.[5] After the American Revolutionary War, Independence Day celebrations often included baked beans.[6]
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Origins and history in the Americas
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Three beanpots used for cooking homemade baked beans. The small one is glazed with the letters "Boston Baked Beans".
According to chef and food historian Walter Staib of Philadelphia's City Tavern, baked beans had their roots as a Native peoples dish in the Americas long before the dish became known to Western culture.[8] In the northeast of America various Native American peoples, including the Iroquois, the Narragansett and the Penobscot,[9] mixed beans, maple sugar, and bear fat in earthenware pots which they placed in pits called "bean holes" which were lined in hot rocks to cook slowly over a long period of time.[8][10]
British colonists in New England were the first westerners to adopt the dish from the Native peoples, and were quick to embrace it largely because the dish was reminiscent of pease pudding and because the dish used ingredients native to the New World.[8][11] They substituted molasses or sugar for the maple syrup, bacon or ham for the bear fat, and simmered their beans for hours in pots over the fire instead of underground.[8] Each colony in America had its own regional variations of the dish, with navy or white pea beans used in Massachusetts, Jacob's Cattle and soldier beans used in Maine, and yellow-eyed beans in Vermont.[3] This variation likely resulted from the colonists receiving the dish from different Native peoples who used different native beans.[3]
While some historians have theorized that baked beans had originated from the cassoulet or bean stew tradition in Southern France, this is unlikely as the beans used to make baked beans are all native to North America and were introduced to Europe around 1528.[12] However, it is likely that English colonists used their knowledge of cassoulet cooking to modify the cooking technique of the beans from the traditional Native American version, by soaking the bean overnight and simmering the beans over a fire before baking it in earthen pots in order to decrease the cooking time.[13]
A dish which was a clear precursor to baked beans, entitled "beans and bacon", was known in medieval England.[14] The addition of onion and mustard to some baked beans recipes published in New England in the 19th century was likely based on traditional cassoulet recipes from Staffordshire, England, which utilized mustard, beans, and leeks.[13] These ingredients are still often added to baked beans today.[13] Nineteenth-century cookbooks published in New England, spread to other portions of the United States and Canada, which familiarized other people with the dish.[13]
While many recipes today are stewed, traditionally dried beans were soaked overnight, simmered until tender (parboiled), and then slow-baked in a ceramic or cast-iron beanpot.[3] Originally baked beans were sweetened with maple syrup by Native Americans, a tradition some recipes still follow, but some English colonists modified the sweetening agent to brown sugar beginning in the 17th century.[14] In the 18th century the convention of using American made molasses as a sweetening agent became increasingly popular in order to avoid British taxes on sugar.[14] The molasses style of baked beans has become closely associated with the city of Boston and is often referred to as Boston baked beans.[15]
Today in the New England region, baked beans are flavored either with maple syrup (Northern New England), or with molasses (Boston), and are traditionally cooked with salt pork in a beanpot in a brick oven for six to eight hours.[15] In the absence of a brick oven, the beans were cooked in a beanpot nestled in a bed of embers placed near the outer edges of a hearth, about a foot away from the fire. Today, baked beans can be made in a slow cooker or in a modern oven using a traditional beanpot, Dutch oven, or casserole dish.[13] Regardless of cooking method, the results of the dish, commonly described as having a savory-sweet flavor and a brownish- or reddish-tinted white bean, are the same.[8]
A tradition in Maine of "bean hole" cooking may have originated with the native Penobscot people and was later practiced in logging camps. A fire would be made in a stone-lined pit and allowed to burn down to hot coals, and then a pot with 11[16] pounds of seasoned beans would be placed in the ashes, covered over with dirt, and left to cook overnight or longer. These beans were a staple of Maine's logging camps, served at every meal.[17][18]
Baked beans made with BBQ sauce, brown sugar, cider vinegar, Dijon mustard and sliced bacon
While baked beans was initially a New England region cuisine, the dish has become a popular item throughout the United States; and is now a staple item served most frequently along various types of barbecue and at picnics.[19] This is due in part to the ease of handling, as they can be served hot or cold, directly from the can, making them handy for outdoor eating. The tomato-based sweet sauce also complements many types of barbecue. The already-cooked beans may also be baked in a casserole dish topped with slices of raw bacon, which is baked until the bacon is cooked. Additional seasonings are sometimes used, such as additional brown sugar or mustard to make the sauce more tangy.[7]
Canned beans
Canned beans, often containing pork, were among the first convenience foods, and were exported and popularised by U.S. companies internationally in the early 20th century.[20] The American Food and Drug Administration stated in 1996: "It has for years been recognized by consumers generally that the designation 'beans with pork,' or 'pork and beans' is the common or usual name for an article of commerce that contains very little pork." The included pork is typically a piece of salt pork that adds fat to the dish.[21]
The first mass-produced commercial canning of baked beans in the United States began in 1895 by the Pennsylvania-based H. J. Heinz Company.[5] Heinz was also the first company to sell baked beans outside of the United States, beginning with sales limited solely to Fortnum & Mason in 1886, when the item was considered a luxury.[22] They began selling baked beans throughout the UK in 1901, and baked beans became a standard part of the English full breakfast soon after.[5] Heinz removed pork from the product during the Second World War rationing.[23]
Baked beans on sourdough toast, served in a café in London, England
Originally, Heinz Baked Beans were prepared in the traditional United States manner for sales in Ireland and Great Britain. Over time, the recipe was altered to a less sweet tomato sauce without maple syrup, molasses, or brown sugar to appeal to the tastes of the United Kingdom.[20] This is the version of baked beans most commonly eaten outside of the United States. Baked beans are commonly eaten on toast ("beans on toast") or as part of a full breakfast.[20] Heinz Baked Beans remains the best-selling brand in the UK.[24] The Baked Bean Museum of Excellence in Port Talbot, Wales, is dedicated to baked beans.[25]
In 2002, the British Dietetic Association allowed manufacturers of canned baked beans to advertise the product as contributing to the recommended daily consumption of five to six vegetables per person. This concession was criticised by heart specialists, who pointed to the high levels of sugar and salt in the product. However, it has been proven that consumption of baked beans does indeed lower total cholesterol levels and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, even in normo-cholesterolaemic individuals.[26][27] Some manufacturers produce a "healthy" version of the product with reduced levels of sugar and salt.[28]
That was epic.
Neat
@BradleyHallGuitar , what type of Kemper are you using? Looking at buying one.
Galneryus is probably my favorite power metal. I'm surprised it was mentioned.
Weirdly enough, my go-to power metal bands actually arent either Blind Guardian or Helloween, for me it's Sabaton, Sonata Arctica and Stratovarius.
Circus Maximus, Manticora, and Elvenking for me.
Isnt sabaton history metal?
@@n1troniit’s still power metal, has all the sound to it, History metal would be more like a way to describe Sabaton.
Alestorm and gloryhammer fight me😂
try Iced Earth - more straight heavy thrash, but they blend
One must love Dream Evil when it comes to power metal.
Fuck yes.
IN THE BOOK OF HEAVY METAL!
It feels like one band in particular is missing here - that is Meshuggah.
In terms of "heaviness" and "thickness" they are, hands down, on Number 1. Likes of Slayer, Metallica, Pantera, NiN, all them Nu Metal bands, Gojira etc.... they are heavy, yes. But listen, even though Meshuggah writes somewhat complex songs, their sound is above everything else. The whole Album "Koloss" does also sound like it - and with improving technology, their sound just becomes heavier and heavier during each album cycle - they even managed to recreate that heaviness live. It's mind-blowing. They don't receive the credit when it comes to the question "who is heaviest" because people only name them when it comes to "Djent" or "Prog/Math Metal" questions... which is sad.
Alternative/grunge is the bridge from the 90's to the 2000's and should be recognized !
Lyrical heavy vs instrumentally heavy
my mom thinks that guns n roses are heavy
She should take a listen to slayer
@@Drewsvids-rf1mj slayer is heavy? to me Slayer drowns in Kerry Kings absolutely horrible guitar-playing and vocals that sound more like plunging a bag of chicken bones in to a blender. There are a few memorable moments, but most of those are also just ruined by nonsense. Like the intro and first riff of Raining Blood is awesome, but then promptly ruined by chromatic babble played at high speeds and tone-deaf vocals
Some of their songs are. They have a really dirty, bluesy rock sound.
@@nordfald3740 ok bro whatever you say
I am so happy you mentioned Lost Horizon. I was thinking about them since you mentioned Power Metal.
I find that Power Metal doesn’t keep up with what the rest of metal is doing, experimenting with different sounds and subgenres. While quality stuff is released, there’s less bands willing to break conventions than in other subgenres
> Metalcore
> "Lamb of God"
Sure man.
They are often either considered Metalcore or Groove metal. They have a lot of tendencies for both.
groove/metalcore with god awful vocals
@@putridabomination what?
What???
@@putridabominationyou think Randy sucks?!
@@Dotthedese 50/50, he's a good guy but not a vocalist I enjoy
Helloween I'll agree with, Other than Keeper of the Seven Keys I'm not that bothered with them. But I do love me some Blind Guardian Are there better bands, yes but I would certainly not consider them mid at all.
lol seriously Masterplan and At Vance are infinitely better bands and coherent songwriters. Best Halloween music isn’t even in Halloween’s discography.
Galneryus is relatively unknown in the west. but I've been listening to them since 2006. One of the genre's best. I apreciate the fact that you gave them a shoutout!
Glad you showed (a pic) Dopthrone!! I bought it on CD as soon as I came out
5:28 Brazil mentioned!!
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Avantasia is a great power metal band
Eye of Solitude: Canto 3 , Tideless and Dream Unending solos are beyond insane
You’re so real for that deathcore take
Power metal talk without Lovebites?! Confused noises*
It’s a very dude repped space, same with the -core scene. Can’t talk about female bands, let alone ones from Japan lest you be labeled something absurd.
You're a legend for mentioning Galneryus, easily my favourite anime ending ever was Hunting for your dream, which brought me to the band!
Saw you at Drownload but I chickened out at saying hello haha
Is this reuploaded?
I think so I got a notification for this vid like a month ago but it only appeared on my notifications and not on his channel
I think he had some copyright stuff to sort with it so had to take it down.
If someone says metal these days isn't heavy that just tells us how much he knows about modern metal
There are still heavy modern bands but what I hate is the idea of "downtuning = heavy". No. If your music is heavy, it's gonna be heavy in standard tuning. Downtuned djent isn't heavy, standard tuning from older bands is way heavier than any djent. Now if you write music that is already heavy in standard, then downtune it. Now it's brutal.
@@symptomofsoulsso would you say djent in general isn’t heavy?
it's not heavy anymore lol it's lost the counterculture magic
@@me-ou3hs only djent band that is heavy is meshuggah
@@symptomofsouls In a sense, downtuning CAN and DOES equal heavy. Not that you should rely on it, but different pitches DO make a difference. Hence why you said "take something already heavy in standard, downtune, now it's brutal".
Listen to some orchestral music. When those bass instruments hit, they HIT.
I really appreciate the quick summary of the Loudness War in a way non-audiophiles and non-metalheads can understand as well as the shoutout of Lost Horizon. A Flame to The Ground Beneath is a one-album wonder for sure, though I enjoy a bit of the debut as well.
That first point was 100% nail on the head.
Didn't you make this before?
Chat Pile makes Slaughter to prevail sound like Enya
Slash is so great because he's the only one who actually has the ideas that everyone thinks they have
It was funny seeing you walk up and down Purple camp in your cow onesie last weekend.
Bro slaughter to prevail is fucking heavy fym💀
Nah, not heavy
Very overproduced, takes away from heaviness.
@@arrebarre900 kinda
@@user-ey5xw2nx9s yes, heavy
@@user-ey5xw2nx9s then what is? cause to me, this sounds like nonsense
Deathcore then: it's hardcore + death metal
Deathcore now:
is THIS the HEAVIEST BREAKDOWN EVER? [REACTION]
THIS is the HEAVIEST breakdown of 2024 [REACTION] | part 3.
can METAL be more HEAVY??? [REACTION]
THIS breakdown is pure MADNESS!!! [REACTION]
I found a video "Scream Bloody Gore B tuning" and it sounds heavier than any deathcore I've ever heard. The album is already heavy as it is, but 1987 Death just pitch shifted down is even heavier than the 7,8, and 9 string stuff of today for some reason.
I personally find the obsession of some with breakdown in metal kinda unattractive, to say the least.
Didn't you already make a video version of this stream?
6:40 I just yesterday (for some reason) remembered this clip I've seen >10 years ago but couldn't remember the name of the band or the song to find it. Thank you, man
Its fair to call Helloween Heavy Metal band because they tend to change their sounds a lot. Their first album is Trash metal. The only Power metal albums they made are Keepers of the Seven Key Part I and Part II, The Time of the Oath and Master of the Ring and their latest album Helloween (tbf those are their iconic albums). The rest are progressive or just straight up Heavy metal. Kinda sad tho that you called Helloween mid. But yea Galneryus and Beast in Black are amazing
To be honest, I rarely feel the 'heaviness' of ANY type of metal. I'm too desensitized to it already
Try listening to more music from other genres, kinda helps in my opinion
Oooooh get you ..... The moment you start any sentence with 'to be honest' anybody with any sense just switches of immediately, as the next thing to fall out your mouth is just utter drivel. Grow up.
@@Bianchiboy Ok, bro
@@Bianchiboy What
better sound system, a break, or at least mix it up more
try Therion - Vovin, Deggial, Secret of the Runes, albums
Love the power metal take. I saw Twilight Force WITH Gloryhammer this spring. It was freaking insane and I lost my voice for like a full week after that.
I love Lorna Shore and modern deathcore like Synesthia's Poetic Edda, but I feel like I miss the mix ups and down time sometimes necessary to create narrative flow. I know it's a meme, but the tempo changes on The Sound of Perseverance are a nice break without losing anything.
Deathcore is still heavy, that hasn't changed, maybe it doesn't have that rawer sound that it had before but it still holds up very well, Lorna Shore's example is from Blacknead Deathcore, the point of combining deathcore with black metal makes the riffs not sound particularly heavy, but if you keep listening to the new Chelsea Grin, Thy art is murder, etc, it's still heavy in my opinion
I disagree, I find it rather tame and overly simplistic. Anyone can do the djent thing and the only band that scratches that itch is Meshuggah and only certain songs that are more thrashy, like The Hurt That Finds You First, War, and Paralyzing Ignorance. What really scratches that fast and heavy itch is Canadian Tech Death, namely Archspire and Beyond Creation.
@@PMMcIntyre there is nothing simplistic about Lorna shore mate, that's copium. You may not like their vibe, that's perfectly fine, but saying Adam doesn't shred and makes simple music is a joke. Dean Lamb from Archspire himself has even called Adam of Lorna Shore a technical mastermind and struggled to play some of his rifffs at even 75% speed. Meshuggah might have been the forerunners of "the djent thing" but they in no way have ever been part of that whole thing. Meshuggah is no more "djent" than Sabbath is death metal. Just because it inspired it, doesn't make it the same thing.
@@nordfald3740 Dean Lamb was being humble. It always takes a while to learn someone else's stuff. You sound like an absolute f***** using "vibe" to describe the feeling of their music and saying I'm on copium. I'm not. I listen to their stuff and I'm impressed by the speed, but they completely ruin the flow of their songs with those ridiculous breakdowns, which is also cringe.
Meshuggah has always been djent, what are you even talking about, lol. What followed was a bunch of copycats trying to say they are djent, but completely lack any talent, with the exception of maybe a couple of bands. Sabbath was never considered death metal, they've always been heavy metal.
@@nordfald3740 your comment is pure cringe.
Dean was being humble. It always takes time to learn other people's stuff and he didn't have the time. I've listened to a lot of their songs and I'm not really impressed. They can play fast and the drummer is a beast, but the riffs aren't really that complicated. They just play them fast, giving the illusion of difficulty. Archspire's riffs are much more difficult to play, even slow.
What are you even talking about? Meshuggah is literally djent and have always been djent. They literally invented the sound. Black Sabbath was never death metal, lmao
@@PMMcIntyretbh "Djent" isn't even an official genre, more like a meme term that Periphery coined 🤔😏👌
Lol, calling Helloween and Blind Guardian "mid" is a terrible take. As someone who listened to them for almost 20 years I can pretty much say you didn't even hear enough of their songs to call them "mid". They basically pionereed an entirely new genre, not to mention MIchael Kiske's incredible vocals. All the bands you mentioned that "did it better" sound exactly like imitators and poor man's Helloween and Blind Guardian. I tried listening Dragon Force and it was one of the most boring bands I've heard mainly because of the fact that all of their songs sound very similar and some even the same. They're to me exactly like AC/DC and Motorhead of their genres when it comes to power metal music; very little variety in their songs and most of the stuff sound the same. Most of Dragon Force and "new power metal" stuff is just soulless wankery with same "tupa tupa" drum beat. That's 100% not the case with Helloween and Blindguardian.
"as someone who is a blind fanboy, i can say you do not have a right to your opinion" - Holy shit, this read like a joke
If we're talking power metal, my go to band atm has been Sacred Outcry and their latest album Tower of Gold where they got Lost Horizons old singer to sing for the album. An absolute banger from start to finish if you ask me
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING ABOUT GALNERYUS!!!! I TRIED TO REMEMBER NAME OF YHIS BAND LIKE FOR A YEAR!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
This is one of the silliest arguments people make.
"BACK IN MY DAY, METAL WAS HEAVY!"
Grandpa, back in your day, the only way to distort amplifiers was to turn them up so loud that they damaged everyone's hearing. That's why you're deaf, grandpa.
Fact of the matter is, with all the technological advancements in guitar gear and recording gear since 1970, metal is heavier than it has ever been. In fact, we have reached the point where certain metal (and hardcore) guitar players are tuning their guitars so low that it's become hard for the human ear to discern properly. (Most humans cannot hear frequencies below the note C0 [aka "16.35Hz"].) That's how good the technology has become: that guitar players are able to, if they desire, tune their 8 string guitars to the limit of human hearing (or use pitch shifting to do the same) AND that we can mix songs such that it's not just a muddy mess when they do. That's heavy, grandpa!
W take
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Love your content keep it up mate and keep eating beans everyday
The best power metal band was a band in the '80s called "Manowar". Until recently, there had been a Manowar tribute band touring the world doing half-arsed covers.
God, I HATE power metal with vigor, for the very same reason I absolutely hate musicals 😂
Preach!
i understand you so well i got a band for you go listin Brtiny Spears
@@dannywaystedBritney spears is not even as cringey as power metal
"A heavy sound" is very subjective. I, for example, don't think that Suicide silence album with fast blastbeats is heavy, I just think it's "aggressive". But the song "The god that failed" of heavy Metallica. In my opinion, heavy makes me think of something "slow", when it's fast (even if it has distorted guitars, gulturals, etc...), it's just "aggressive" for me. The heaviest sound I've ever heard in my life was the breakdown of the song "five nails through the neck" by Cannibal Corpse.
If you want to hear heavy but fast that's Mortician and Last days of humanity. Wall of noise.
The god that failed 😂😂😂😂😂
@@stixzadinia8584 thats a legit heavy song to me too ngl
@@ChainsawSlammer1.3.8 if you dont mind grindcore, Nasum is also a fast but heavy AF band
@@stixzadinia8584 Opinions, friend.
Some shrewd insight right here
Galneryus rules! Silent Revelation and the solos in Whisper in the Red sky are must listens. Been hooked on Moonlight Rendezvous by Beast in Black lately. And the new Amaranthe.
Agreed, Lorna Shores sounds washed up to me (I'm a sound engineer and DJ, noticed loudness wars quite a while ago in the EDM business) - trying some Slaughter to Prevail at the moment but it feels like they applied just one set recipe for every song, and solos are lacking -sounds like gunfire punctuated with tiny little guitar squeals here and there. Kind of heavy but kind of lacking something, bands like Fear Factory were already doing the snare/kick/guitar automatic rifle sound in the 90s. If STP did put a little extra groove and melody in there, it would sound heavier.
100%
Slaughter to prevail is the equivalent to a shitty 80's action movie. Tries really hard to be bad ass but ends up being corny and forgettable.
yes.... unlike all the 80's band with long hair and leather pants that were all incredibly unique and not corny at all.
I've never once stopped to ask if something was "heavy"... you've got your priorities in the wrong place, if that's your focus point.
"dude this band is friggin br00tal chugg riff then breakdown got me knocked out"
Among my favourite power metal bands are Warkings, Beast in Black and early Nightwish.
Beast in Black live are...well, beasts! Amazing!
metalcore and deathcore are the LGBT of the metal community
I'm so glad glad you brought up Beast in Black. I love that band.
My FAVOURITE power metal band is Thunderstone! These are incredibly amazing and I LUST for ANYTHING new from them for YEARS!
I like blind Guardian sure (I worked with Hansi Kürschs brother in law for several years) but power metal has way more variety to offer than the usual suspects 🤘🏻
I like Slash and yes very juicy and bluesy. Yeah Velvet Revolver had some nice songs, could really tell it a melting of GnR and STP, I liked them growing up, they were different same as AIC and loved Lanes voice too