An Old Head answers your burning hip hop questions

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  • @MitoRequiem
    @MitoRequiem Před měsícem +1800

    This thumbnail crazy

    • @SeattleScotty
      @SeattleScotty Před měsícem +87

      I thought it was his dad and couldn't believe how similar they looked lol.

    • @moriah.manifests
      @moriah.manifests Před měsícem +4

      🤣

    • @Mighty_Atheismo
      @Mighty_Atheismo Před měsícem +70

      Uncle Grandpa bout to tell us bout that boom bap spherical blerical lyrical miracle golden age

    • @volitionVX
      @volitionVX Před měsícem +4

      Seriously, how the hell?? Looked convincing!

    • @KarlRadekBonk
      @KarlRadekBonk Před měsícem +4

      Came here for this comment lmfao

  • @Josie.770
    @Josie.770 Před měsícem +1541

    You're younger than you think FD, you're not an oldhead YET. You're a young unc.

    • @Mighty_Atheismo
      @Mighty_Atheismo Před měsícem +197

      A rising old head. A soon to uncle.
      Younger than you think. But old enough to be talking about filing taxes in a rap vid!

    • @htsunmiku
      @htsunmiku Před měsícem +82

      Well you know how it is online. They talk about 20 like it's old.

    • @liltupac1536
      @liltupac1536 Před měsícem +30

      I feel like an old head whenever I reminisce on 2016/soundcloud rap era 😔

    • @llamapartyy
      @llamapartyy Před měsícem +7

      hip-hop fans are usually around 16-24, so yeah it is old

    • @johnplayer420
      @johnplayer420 Před měsícem +35

      Yungcle

  • @Vlairity
    @Vlairity Před měsícem +883

    ngl it would've been hilarious if u dressed up as an old man for this one 💀

    • @Lady_Omni
      @Lady_Omni Před měsícem +15

      I would have died

    • @Mighty_Atheismo
      @Mighty_Atheismo Před měsícem +6

      Unc is talking about the radio... So def he's dressed like an old man as am I 😂😂

    • @dffgffffffdddddddddd
      @dffgffffffdddddddddd Před měsícem +11

      He did.. though ..Oh..

    • @Beaze17
      @Beaze17 Před měsícem +1

      I agree that we had raunchy music back in the day but the exposure at such a young age is the difference to me. Maybe I'm in the minority but I wasn't allowed to listen to whatever I wanted until I was like 10 or 11. Meanwhile these days a party full of 6 year old lil girls are dancing to sexy red and saying shake that ass for drake .

    • @selalewis9189
      @selalewis9189 Před měsícem

      Tokyo Snow Drift should have come out first.

  • @javierdhdez
    @javierdhdez Před měsícem +382

    “Find old heads in your vicinity” is hilarious

    • @Kangaroo805
      @Kangaroo805 Před měsícem +14

      (Knocks on neighbors door) “excuse are you an old head?”

    • @BarackLesnar
      @BarackLesnar Před měsícem +18

      Cantankerous old heads want to share their hip hop opinions with YOU

    • @marcmcvey1844
      @marcmcvey1844 Před měsícem +4

      We’re everywhere. And we are dying to give our opinions on a variety of topics

    • @karstencarsten9964
      @karstencarsten9964 Před měsícem +3

      As a German white boy I don't even know where to start looking lmao

  • @micahmh
    @micahmh Před měsícem +863

    bro made a whole rap video without mentioning the goat once. This Iggy azalea hate gotta stop

    • @Antwannnn
      @Antwannnn Před měsícem +155

      Jokes aside. The way people ignore what Carti has done to Iggy is disgusting. He like the rap version of Brad Pitt.

    • @johnwerner69
      @johnwerner69 Před měsícem +37

      ​@@AntwannnnI know almost nothing about those two.. what did he do?

    • @5bnc
      @5bnc Před měsícem +141

      @@johnwerner69He missed the birth of his kid to play playstation with lil uzi

    • @johnwerner69
      @johnwerner69 Před měsícem +138

      @@5bnc That’s some crazy man child behavior!

    • @Antwannnn
      @Antwannnn Před měsícem +101

      @@johnwerner69 he also "allegedly" was abusive to Iggy WHILE she was prego. If being abusive wasn't bad already. Bro tried to get a collateral.

  • @jcnot9712
    @jcnot9712 Před měsícem +435

    Whoever handling FD’s thumbnails/titles lately is having so much fun 😂

  • @doelroarpa3489
    @doelroarpa3489 Před měsícem +121

    "Old FD isn't real he can't hurt you"
    Thumbnail old FD:

  • @BionicLatino
    @BionicLatino Před měsícem +292

    As a NYC old head, I feel like there’s a whole other level of conversation that you really only hear from NYC old heads.
    Like from our perspective, we saw the West Coast, Dirty South, and Midwest as novelty acts vying for second place. So people were talking about Uncle Luke or Scarface as GOATS, we were laughing. Thinking “if they were any good, they’d be in NY”. If I haven’t heard them on Hot 97 or Power 103, they weren’t ready for the main stage.
    Unfortunately, that made us lazy. And we got stale. Add to that the “east cost/west coast rivalry” and the country ass No Limit sound, and we got real proud and stubborn.
    By the time we realized that we were no longer the center of the hip hop universe, the center fell out and the internet age expanded the playing field even more.

    • @Voodoo381
      @Voodoo381 Před měsícem +12

      Well said

    • @MonkeyDJaden75
      @MonkeyDJaden75 Před měsícem +20

      Now Atlanta is Too Dog, in Mainstream hip hop and underground

    • @angelicthecaretaker777
      @angelicthecaretaker777 Před měsícem +8

      Good comment. You're right. Crazy how much thing have changed since.

    • @BionicLatino
      @BionicLatino Před měsícem +29

      @@MonkeyDJaden75 I would actually argue there is no Top Dog the way there used to be. You have artists coming from all over. There’s not really the same regional style anymore. The line between mainstream and underground isn’t as easy to draw. And no single area has a mon opoly on best in the business. The top artists right now are mixed from NY, LA, Texas, Philly, Canada, Atlanta, Chicago, Miami, St. Louis, and depending who you ask, even more places.
      Hip-Hop changed and left those rivalries behind.

    • @DallasChick79
      @DallasChick79 Před měsícem +5

      Being from New Orleans (the birthplace of No Limit & Cash Money), now living in the Dallas area, you pretty much summed up what I was gonna point out...y'all got lazy & way too cocky.

  • @janeljohnson5833
    @janeljohnson5833 Před měsícem +53

    47-year-old black woman in America here…Big conscious rap fan. Back in the ‘90s I was told my musical preferences were alternative. That said, loved, loved, loved Common, the Roots, OutKast, the Neptunes, LL, Digable Planets, Arrested Development, Black Star (Mos and Talib’s solo projects, as well).I also claim Lupe, and my OG favorite: Pete Rock & CL Smooth. And my guilty pleasure that I don’t usually admit to…MC Brains. Special shout out to Oaktown 3.5.7…and who am I liking now, ladies first: Doechii and Leikeli47; and the usual suspects: Kendrick, J. Cole. Also, didn’t feel it needed mentioning, but obviously, Ñas.

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Před měsícem +2

      54 yr old blk woman, and I'm with you on all those 90s artists!

    • @mrD66M
      @mrD66M Před 7 dny +1

      Kudos for Pete Rock & CL Smooth + Digable Planets ..you're cool like that

  • @XMachete
    @XMachete Před měsícem +186

    Actual old here. For the most part, your takes are spot-on, let me provide some touch-up:
    1. Music spread mainly through a. radio, b. tours like freshfest, and c. TAPES. Cassettes & VHS were the circulatory system of music back then, ESPECIALLY hip hop. Some mixes and concert recordings were literal legends, mythic items. If you had a cousin in NYC, and they came for a visit, they inevitably had at least one or two recordings of WBLS or KISS FM shows. Kids would have dubs of dubs. And every place had a record store and if you were lucky, someone in there knew wtf they were doing and would stock 12" records for the DJs and the fans. This is before rap was even an acknowledged category (outside of NY/NJ/LA), so they would typically be sorted in alphabetically with the pop/rock records. So going into a store and coming out with a record by someone you never heard of was a real and common thing - which was why it was important for new artists to signify that (a) rap and (b) here's who I'm down with.
    2. The 80s old heads most definitely grumbled about the 90s rap. The term "new jack" started out as derisive before the culture flipped it. And NYC in particular went through a shift as the next up didn't want to rock Fila and dookey gold chains and kangol and considered all of that played out. Conscious rap (or at least the vibe) took over the culture for a hot minute right before NWA blew everything up and NYC hip hop culture stopped steering the culture for the first time ever. Which is the actual roots of the coast beef, because NYC saw the west coast as 1. less lyrically capable 2. fraudulent with the gangster posturing, and 3. crowding out NYC artists. The West Coast did have lyricists though, and many of them stepped up to the lyrical challenge and even the conscious rap challenge and weren't at all on gangster stuff but that's off topic. Point is, generational grumbling has always been a thing, it's just the social media amplifies everything.
    And to your point about 90s rappers, yep social media is about engagement so the engagement farmers just roll with what gets most engagement, so 5000 threads about tupac,jayz,biggie,nas.

    • @dogsandyoga1743
      @dogsandyoga1743 Před měsícem +11

      100% spot on!
      I think cassette dubs are the unsung hero of hip hop! I got SO much music from my older cousin, it's how I built my library before I could afford to buy music.

    • @MayorOfEarth79
      @MayorOfEarth79 Před měsícem +2

      When I think of 80s old heads hating on 90s rappers I think of Melle Mel

    • @phoebexavier7050
      @phoebexavier7050 Před měsícem +2

      "One would buy the CD, the other would do the dubbin'" - Wordsworth

    • @TLovly77
      @TLovly77 Před měsícem +1

      Thank you because as I was watching this I felt that he was missing the mark about how music was spread back in the day even before CDs and I came to make a comment about it but no need you explained that part wonderfully.

  • @anselmopat4985
    @anselmopat4985 Před měsícem +244

    That fucking question about people in the 90s writing on stone tablets HAD ME WEAK
    Sorry old man but this shit too funny 😭😭😭

    • @smitty_mittenz
      @smitty_mittenz Před měsícem +9

      Obviously not tho, bc then the endless pen/sword and rhyme book references and analogies would not make sense. You kids are crazy 🤣🤣🤣

    • @syds8752
      @syds8752 Před měsícem

      Hilarious..

  • @ravesterj5147
    @ravesterj5147 Před měsícem +211

    I'm an oldhead and the impact of the crack era totally and completely changed the message and energy of hip hop. Also, "the meeting" that took place in the early 90s with music execs was a real thing and shaped who got heard and who didn't.

    • @_mirendal_
      @_mirendal_ Před měsícem +17

      Can you explain wich meeting youre talking about im curious !

    • @geekylove3603
      @geekylove3603 Před měsícem +23

      I don't think it happened as a one off ..a famous one off meeting. But its happened through normal meetings.

    • @geekylove3603
      @geekylove3603 Před měsícem

      ​​@@_mirendal_
      A conspiracy theory that heads of labels (and possibly prison executives I can't recal) met and decided to push the NWAs of this world and push aside the Tribes and De La Souls of this world.

    • @T.H.E.O.R.Y.
      @T.H.E.O.R.Y. Před měsícem

      ​@@_mirendal_yep, as the poster above me mentioned, it was a meeting of what hip hop was to be.
      It's basically seen as a nefarious, 5th column illuminati type meeting.

    • @relativelybasic
      @relativelybasic Před měsícem +9

      I have a vague recollection of "the meeting" but I feel y'all give labels and execs too much power to remove personal responsibility from the people. Execs aren't taste makers, they just want to make money. And the way to make money is to sell people what they want. They didn't "change" anything. Rather more accurately was they put more money and focus into certain aspects of hip hop that was more profitable. It's not some evil thing.

  • @Lady_Omni
    @Lady_Omni Před měsícem +293

    Omg that cover photo. 😂 Those high rank Street Fighter matches got you going grey early, huh?

  • @KrashyKharma
    @KrashyKharma Před měsícem +76

    The difference between underground culture between then and now is that it used to be a localized, in-person lifestyle and event based thing you had to actively participate in, or know someone within willing to share it with you, whereas now it's just clicking the right link, getting the right algorithmic response, or searching the right term.

    • @dogsandyoga1743
      @dogsandyoga1743 Před měsícem +11

      Right. It's a gift in a sense, because I've found channels of local stuff I missed that happened right under my nose...

    • @fanrosefabrose9457
      @fanrosefabrose9457 Před měsícem +4

      For the hardcore scene, finding channels like Hate5six that records small bands all over the states has been an amazing gift for someone like me who isn't tapped into that genre yet. Yeah the underground isn't what I supposed it used to be

  • @Purplefoxsoul
    @Purplefoxsoul Před měsícem +120

    FD Signifier is so good at presenting information and sharing his thoughts that I would click on a video of him reading the phone book

    • @Peace2carolyn
      @Peace2carolyn Před měsícem +11

      Honestly me too and I need to know the psychology behind this 😅

  • @debbiecrankin
    @debbiecrankin Před měsícem +99

    Oldhead Signified

  • @MCKBeats
    @MCKBeats Před měsícem +56

    I think the class gap in content/lyrics is the biggest difference from our era and this one now. Rakim could wear a gold chain and rap about getting paid in full, but showed tons of community and class solidarity. Even if today’s rappers tried to show the same solidarity, it would come across hollow with their constant wealth brags n shit.
    And i know there were plenty of rappers who were like that to some degree back in the day, but they were usually rejected. Shit-talked by the best rappers on the regular.

    • @seapeajones
      @seapeajones Před měsícem +22

      One is performative, the other is real. It's about aesthetic more than ever now imo

    • @DallasChick79
      @DallasChick79 Před měsícem +3

      And, that's because of the advent of social media. You can see it now.

  • @cgumxfymry9932
    @cgumxfymry9932 Před měsícem +68

    there's a show called hip hop evolution which literally documents hip from the 70's to the late 00's it's really helpful

  • @ItzGOOD95
    @ItzGOOD95 Před měsícem +54

    People don't talk about Guru and GangStarr enough.

    • @katehartley2333
      @katehartley2333 Před měsícem +4

      I love Gangstarr!

    • @ItzGOOD95
      @ItzGOOD95 Před měsícem +3

      @katehartley2333 they were ill, Dj Premier with the beats and Bald head slick with his monotone style lol.

    • @Erica-en2qz
      @Erica-en2qz Před měsícem +1

      @ItzGOOD95 True!

    • @oluwatoyinbabata8770
      @oluwatoyinbabata8770 Před měsícem +1

      They ain't got mass appeal and got too much time to play

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Před měsícem +1

      You're right. RIP Guru ❤

  • @cazrethomas
    @cazrethomas Před měsícem +147

    In my experience, early hip hop fans did have a problem with 90s hip hop. My elders would always have something negative to say about the music I listened to growing up. Calling it violent and more raunchy and lacking the five elements, over commercialization, etc.

    • @kalka1l
      @kalka1l Před měsícem +26

      Exactly this. The response to the rise of Death Row if you were in New York? Venomous.

    • @geekylove3603
      @geekylove3603 Před měsícem +22

      My uncle used to say the same. But he still listened to Wu lol.
      The issue for me its no so much violent lyrics or even raunchy lyrics. Its hows its presented. Is it presented like The Godfather or Mean Streets....artistically? Or is it presented like The Expendables.

    • @Indig0u_
      @Indig0u_ Před měsícem +6

      what’s meant by the five elements?

    • @cazrethomas
      @cazrethomas Před měsícem +27

      @@Indig0u_ 5 elements of hip-hop. breaking, graffiti(my favorite), emceeing, djing and knowledge

    • @crunchysalmons
      @crunchysalmons Před měsícem +25

      sucks to have ppl you know killed over crack and then see little kids bumping music made by slightly older kids telling everybody how rich and powerful they got from selling crack. that’s not dope that’s actually fucked

  • @matthewlister3755
    @matthewlister3755 Před měsícem +61

    Old head here. I'm in my mid 40s and you are right, Rakim changed everything, at least from my mainstream, white suburban perspective at that time. I'm sure badass-itude was always respected in the underground, but from my perspective there were a lot of novelty tunes---like Fat Boys rapping about how they were looking for food, Heavy D rapping about being chunky but funky, Kurtis Blow rapping about his phone bill being too high because hey, that's the breaks, etc. Rappers like Rakim and Kool Moe Dee hit the scene and, I gotta tell you, I don't know what it was for me at the time, but it just felt correct. "I Ain't No Joke" came out and things just changed, and they changed forever. This was the new hyper-masculine cool in hip hop, and it kind of still is. If there's anything I miss from the 80s and 90s, and even the 00s, it's the groups of next level rappers getting together and tearing it up. Geto Boys. A Tribe Called Quest. Arrested Development. Jurassic 5. Blackalicious. The Pharcyde. That last one, good God. I've listened to Bizarre Ride II more times than any other hip hop album. Sorry, old habits die hard. The one thing hip hop never discarded, though, was socially conscious rap. The kind of hip hop Public Enemy and Rage Against the Machine made are still in the rotation, but now I put it alongside rappers like King Los and Kendrick Lamar in 2024. As far as explicitly LGBT rap goes, I gotta be honest, I didn't hear any of it until Cakes da Killa in the early 2010s, but that's likely because I was out of the loop. Love his music regardless of my general cluelessness as a straight white cis male. Also, just one more note from an old head, I'm also really happy with the direction rap has gone in in the Spanish language. I'm really into artists like Snow Tha Product, Bad Bunny, and Santa Fe Klan. The fact that rap spread to so many other cultures outside of the one that birthed it is a testament to its power. Speaking of which, you are right about white people in rap in the 80s and 90s. The Beastie Boys are foundational in that regard, but if you look at their history they were going to shows and hanging with the great MCs that were around at that time. Yeah, they were still a punk and hardcore band, sure, but a LOT of the rap they were listening to found its way into their music, and absolutely no one questioned it, at least at that time.

    • @DjViceroy
      @DjViceroy Před měsícem +3

      Big up Cakes. Pleased to see him mentioned here. Solid flow.

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Před měsícem +1

      Bizarre Ride II the Pharsyde is one of my favorite albums of all time.

  • @soun.slayerTTV
    @soun.slayerTTV Před měsícem +34

    I'm 27 and Rakim is in my top 3 for all the reasons he's not recognized as much. In 06 when saints row came out I was 11 I thought I ain't No Joke was newer than what it was. His lyricism really did flip the game from the early dance era n set the stage for the 90s

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Před měsícem +1

      That's fkn awesome! Video games have definitely exposed younger listeners to a lot of great hip hop from the past.

  • @keneola
    @keneola Před měsícem +33

    Haha! "Crashout" is the first modern slang I've tried to say and legit felt like an imposter trying to pretend to be young 😂.

    • @_cls90
      @_cls90 Před měsícem +8

      We use to just call them crash dummies. Crash out for us meant to go to sleep.

    • @RationallyMe
      @RationallyMe Před měsícem +3

      If it makes you feel any better, the term "Crash out" comes from Charleston White, who is an old head. The youngsters got it from an old head, so use it all you want.

    • @chimchu3232
      @chimchu3232 Před měsícem

      That's how I feel when I talk to my little sister 😂 if I try and use her slang I feel ridiculous

  • @TheBlackEsquire
    @TheBlackEsquire Před měsícem +18

    Rakim is the nexus event between the Golden Age style of rhyming, aka Run DMC, Fat Boys etc and the modern style aka Nas, Biggie etc.

  • @limahlslijngaard2363
    @limahlslijngaard2363 Před měsícem +21

    As a fellow old head from 83 and with a little more distance from the epicenter being from Amsterdam you forget to mention the importance of the magazines such as the Source. They really helped spread hip hop in a broader sense as a culture. In the late nineties early 2000s they even started to branch out and shed Light on local scenes in France, Germany etc. This was all pre internet/dial up internet era so printed media had way more influence and every edition was like a valuable keepsake you read from beginning to end and back again

  • @dearyvettetn4489
    @dearyvettetn4489 Před měsícem +20

    This Older Head really enjoyed and shared this video with my Gen-Z son who walks around the house listening to 80’s and 90’s a Hip Hop. He says he’s not into the new stuff and his former DJ dad and me, who grew up in the South Bronx in the 70’s and 80’ are enjoying sharing music and listening to my son’s hot takes.
    It’s the best kind of family bonding ❤
    Thanks 🙏🏽

    • @dogsandyoga1743
      @dogsandyoga1743 Před měsícem +1

      Right, my sons (25 and 19) were raised on boom bap, and in turn, have hipped me to SO much amazing stuff from todaysnera

    • @footballdesk4417
      @footballdesk4417 Před měsícem

      I only let my sons listen to 50 cent or G-Unit.

    • @dogsandyoga1743
      @dogsandyoga1743 Před měsícem

      @@footballdesk4417 🤣

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Před měsícem

      That's fkn awesome!

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Před měsícem +1

      ​@dogsandyoga1743 have they exposed you to Coast Contra yet?

  • @aliceholmes4952
    @aliceholmes4952 Před měsícem +239

    Does not being a fan of billy woods really count as being antagonistic to young rap fans? Cause i learned about billy woods (and came to love his music) from dead end hip hop, who are all old hip hop fans lol.

    • @sandenson
      @sandenson Před měsícem +8

      You put text between "_"s to make stuff italic on CZcams, like this: _italic text_

    • @paultapping9510
      @paultapping9510 Před měsícem +2

      I'm still learning to enjoy earl sweatshirt 😅

    • @braxtonwise9897
      @braxtonwise9897 Před měsícem +3

      @@paultapping9510Im a younger rap fan and most of my circle heavily fucks with Earl, and Mike as well in that realm, but Im the only one thats really pushed into Billy Woods as much. Hes my favorite rn but his sound is maybe a little harder to parse for most of us Gen Z rap fans

    • @achronos178
      @achronos178 Před měsícem +3

      @@braxtonwise9897 Earl, and Mike is the natural gateway to billy woods, Elucid, Armand Hammer, Moor Mother Pipeline give it time

    • @ambriaashley3383
      @ambriaashley3383 Před měsícem +1

      @@sandensonyup, speaking of old heads lol

  • @imdoneplus
    @imdoneplus Před měsícem +6

    Bahamadia’s verse on Roni Size’s “New Forms” is literally an earth shattering shift in 90’s hip hop and dance music.

  • @dailybread9196
    @dailybread9196 Před měsícem +43

    Hiphop commentary is what made me subscribe.
    I was sad when I realized this channel wasn’t that fulltime 😂

    • @NothingBetterToWatch
      @NothingBetterToWatch Před měsícem +11

      It honestly could and should be, even “B sides” implies music

  • @DefaultName-du3kr
    @DefaultName-du3kr Před měsícem +13

    My dad liked 80s hip hop but hated 90s hip hop, he called it crass and abrasive.

  • @skarrx2416
    @skarrx2416 Před měsícem +3

    "Go look at your grandparents and how they were acting in the 80's and 90's. That's them!"
    Bruh that killed me 🤣

  • @kokikodevereaux4932
    @kokikodevereaux4932 Před měsícem +12

    Pharcyde, Souls of Mischief, De La Soul....There were some awesome artists. I could go on and on

  • @anardi7112
    @anardi7112 Před měsícem +13

    Here's another Rakim comparison: Benjamin Franklin is the American da Vinci and will be remembered for his versatility and output even if better inventions and better writing and such has happened since. He's historically remembered as part of the foundation and his status resonates for decades.
    Rakim is the founding father who was the first mc you'd really need to listen to. Foundational and resonant.

  • @TheTriangleOffense47
    @TheTriangleOffense47 Před měsícem +22

    0:43 Tony funny as hell 😂

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Před měsícem

      Who is that guy? Does he have a channel?

    • @-alyissa-3632
      @-alyissa-3632 Před měsícem

      ​@@sonja4164tony statovci is his name

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Před měsícem

      @@-alyissa-3632 thanks 🙏🏾

  • @jaleelthompson927
    @jaleelthompson927 Před měsícem +14

    When all the smoke is cleared with Kdot and Drake I’d love to see some convos with Dead end Hip hop. Old heads uniting would be great convo

    • @ANGELMAN.
      @ANGELMAN. Před měsícem +1

      Yess man fr we gotta get a vid of them talking before myke is officially gone I feel like they’d have a really dope convo

  • @knightofvirtue613
    @knightofvirtue613 Před měsícem +8

    Busta Rhymes was another rapper that changed the game because his style was so unique. Keith Murray was a great rapper that neevr made it due to the heavy competition at the time.

  • @hissupremecorrectfulnessre9478
    @hissupremecorrectfulnessre9478 Před měsícem +26

    "How did you discover underground music?" - Honestly, Amazon was a huge gamechanger for me, when they added those 30 second preview (prelisten?) clips of songs, circa 1999 or so.

  • @hilltopglove
    @hilltopglove Před měsícem +14

    80s hip-hop was critical of 90s hip-hop. That's just part of the cultural cycle.

  • @tyronechillifoot5573
    @tyronechillifoot5573 Před měsícem +20

    Ye old heads have cometh upon us

  • @Tae223s
    @Tae223s Před měsícem +19

    Was going through a signified B sides marathon your video came at a perfect time 😂

  • @ash-bl4xb
    @ash-bl4xb Před měsícem +57

    never clicked a video notification so fast

  • @BOGOworms4sale
    @BOGOworms4sale Před měsícem +21

    Love you FD! I disagree with so many of your hip hop takes, but it’s always in good fun and the discussion is always really interesting
    Edit: Billy woods is my second favorite rapper I can’t believe you’d say such terrible things

  • @steamenginealchemist7109
    @steamenginealchemist7109 Před měsícem +9

    YOOOOOOO I honestly didn’t expect you to include my question in the video! Glad you liked it and thanks for answering. Gonna go check out the people you mentioned rn

  • @betheguy_posts
    @betheguy_posts Před měsícem +5

    2:37 "If you're lucky you'll end up like me. If you're lucky you'll get to this age."
    Growing old is a privilege. Not everyone gets to do it.

  • @naswiipp
    @naswiipp Před měsícem +12

    Twista never had to leave Chicago to blow up.
    And Psychodrama was Yungbuk, Side Kick and Newsense

  • @suede.the.curator
    @suede.the.curator Před měsícem +7

    One thing I do miss about music before streaming is that, if you connected to a song(s) you heard on the radio or on a (physical) mixtape or burned onto a CD, you would go out and buy the album and listen to the song(s) in the context of the album.
    I cannot tell you how many songs are slept on because people are only streaming the one or two songs they know. As someone who is deeply invested in music, I always try to encourage people to listen to the album a song they enjoy comes from because you never know what musical gems are on there.

    • @synkronized
      @synkronized Před měsícem

      i do that!! i find songs thru my yt music algorithm and often go to buy the cd so i can really appreciate the entire album. when i'm driving i don't like to have to get distracted so the cd forces me to listen to the entire thing and most of the time i end up loving most of the album :D

  • @lucariojet
    @lucariojet Před měsícem +5

    So glad to hear Saigon get some love. I remember hearing Believe It in 09 and it changed my life

  • @generallyuninterested4956
    @generallyuninterested4956 Před měsícem +10

    In the 1980s my very white probation officer auntie, took my 14 year old also very white, very nerdy brother to the Too Short/ NWA... ect concert in NEW ORLEANS. That's how new rap and hip hop was in the culture.
    BTW they both remember it FONDLY.
    FYI
    The 90s was the best because that's when UGK got known. In my opinion.

  • @dthuer4642
    @dthuer4642 Před měsícem +4

    Love that you shouted out Keith Murray! Enigma is still in rotation to this day

  • @zurieljansky28
    @zurieljansky28 Před měsícem +5

    FD Signifier, much love and respect to you man. I completely agree with you, I'm 22 and I feel like an old head in terms of hip-hop and my general music takes.
    I love Rakim, Pac, Nas, OutKast, Mos Def, Black Thought, Jay-Z, Old Kanye and Kendrick Lamar. It hurts my heart that some of the younfer generation think older hip-hop is trash, wack or they just don't understand it. Your not alone FD, I wish i had friends who were as passionate and enthusiastic about hip-hop music.

  • @dogsandyoga1743
    @dogsandyoga1743 Před měsícem +4

    Slightly older head and certified 70s-90s hip-hop geek here. Solid video.
    I just wanted to add, while not widely known or mainstream, there was a mid to late 90s queer or "homo-hop" movement out here in the Bay. I remember groups like Rainbow Flava and Deep Dickollective making a little noise around that time. Oddly enough, I think the first openly gay artist associate with hop was 1980s electro-pop producer Man Parrish 😂

  • @doublebbravo7619
    @doublebbravo7619 Před měsícem +4

    I smiled so hard when you were talking about t rock. I want through a hard threesix/project Pat phase in college and stumbled upon his music then. He’s got some classics and definitely deserve more recognition

  • @allforthenukie
    @allforthenukie Před měsícem +3

    "Paid in Full" should be part of the curriculum of all hip-hop fans, the album has held up very well

  • @prinsxx
    @prinsxx Před měsícem +4

    I've been watching that Tony short the whole day.😂😂😂 I can't get tired of it

  • @misc.cont.
    @misc.cont. Před měsícem +6

    What a treat of a video. More of this every now and then would be brilliant.

  • @christinathein951
    @christinathein951 Před měsícem

    Great questions and answers. I love hearing all these kinda old stories and the evolution of the many many aspects of what makes hip hop hip hop.

  • @Red-zr6vd
    @Red-zr6vd Před měsícem +3

    Definitely love the questions and answers style videos on different topics for future videos. This was a lot of fun to watch 👍🏿

  • @kalka1l
    @kalka1l Před měsícem +6

    Listen Fu-Gee-La was bumpin’ Spring ‘96 in NYC. If you had an open window you could listen to the whole song just from cars driving by.
    KRS One needs to be mentioned more IMO when talking about conscious rap.
    Anyone looking to listen to what it was like back in the day, we are fortunate to have so many resources. The Rocksteady Anniversary jams, dozens of Summer Jam recordings are out there, even a few grainy videos of house parties if you dig a bit.

  • @John-os2kl
    @John-os2kl Před měsícem +1

    In Living Color and Arsenio were monumental in promoting hip hop to rural America. Bless Wayans and Hall for this contribution cuz learned of so much music, I was already a fan of the culture but featuring new music really expanded the reach of the genre to middle America

  • @strigoi_guhlqueen8355
    @strigoi_guhlqueen8355 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you so much for awnsering my question. And this video was very very interresting. I find it fascinating how one genre can evolve so much and jet have so many consistant ellements.

  • @alexisss1451
    @alexisss1451 Před měsícem +4

    so happy you included tony’s tiktok 😭 yall should collab one day!

  • @thatguysixx
    @thatguysixx Před měsícem +12

    Amazing thumbnail

  • @jessgray8732
    @jessgray8732 Před měsícem

    I really enjoyed this FD.I hope for a part 2.❤

  • @charlesshoffner4201
    @charlesshoffner4201 Před měsícem +1

    I appreciate this conversation. More of it, please.
    My oldheadness still harkens back to the classic day of September 29, 1998. One of my favorite Tuesdays ever.

  • @kiatorrette5631
    @kiatorrette5631 Před měsícem +22

    Does not being a fan of billy woods really count as being antagonistic to young rap fans? Cause i learned about billy woods (and came to _love_ his music) from dead end hip hop, who are all old hip hop fans lol

    • @WeIsDaTyrantz
      @WeIsDaTyrantz Před měsícem +8

      Yeah, billy woods is actually OLDER than FD, which is triple funny to me.

    • @achronos178
      @achronos178 Před měsícem +1

      I legit did not get this criticism

    • @JGarcia-yr9fx
      @JGarcia-yr9fx Před měsícem +4

      I think he js assumed him to be younger because he's associated more with the newer wave of underground hiphop (i.e earl, ka, mike, pink siifu, jpegmafia etc.) than the period he started in

    • @achronos178
      @achronos178 Před měsícem +1

      @JGarcia-yr9fx billy just become famous later in his career, I don't get where he went with that.

    • @JGarcia-yr9fx
      @JGarcia-yr9fx Před měsícem +1

      @@achronos178 yea that's what i meant

  • @valeriebeauchamp2263
    @valeriebeauchamp2263 Před měsícem +3

    I'm 26 and just discover Tribe Call Quest and Queen Latifah... it's so good.

  • @_mirendal_
    @_mirendal_ Před měsícem +2

    Thanks for the answer unc! 🙏

  • @El_likes_to_stim
    @El_likes_to_stim Před měsícem +1

    Interesting insight into those days. I love albums too and the effort put into them makes them so satisfying to experience after saving up to buy them.

  • @eugenepatey
    @eugenepatey Před měsícem +9

    This is crazy, talking down on 2022.
    I was just thinking the other day about how 2022 legit might be the best year in hiphop, of my life.
    the forever story, melt my eyez, Mr.morale, kings disease 3, aethiopes, no thank you, god don't make mistakes, backxwash 3rd album, it's almost dry, drill music in Zion, Cheat Codes.
    2022 is a glorious year in hiphop.

  • @SLLogan91
    @SLLogan91 Před měsícem +12

    All this hip hop talk; when we getting that Tech N9ne video... Because JESUS that man has a body of work

    • @joshthefunkdoc
      @joshthefunkdoc Před měsícem +1

      i heard a story that Elton John once walked into a record store in some random part of the midwest and asked if they had any Tech N9ne albums
      (When they said they didn't, he ended up buying all of their Scritti Politti records instead lmao)

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Před měsícem

      ​@@joshthefunkdoc from Tech N9ne to Scritti Politti 😂😂😂😂
      That's a hell of a swing! He's a wild man! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @colakarmon
    @colakarmon Před měsícem

    Loved this, would love to see more if there were more questions you wanted to address

  • @naturalgurl96
    @naturalgurl96 Před měsícem

    You really could do one of these a month or something. keep em coming! As a Zillenial i’m at that intersection that sees both sides and i love hearing this kind of content!

  • @drew004jc
    @drew004jc Před měsícem +4

    if you did a video on music 94-96, it would be 8hrs long and straight fire

  • @bke8073
    @bke8073 Před měsícem +3

    Let’s goooo I made the video😤fr tho thanks for answering my question!

  • @Kontonymous
    @Kontonymous Před měsícem +1

    7:42 "Put it in your mouth" Hah! I think you're referencing Akinyele's "Just put it in my mouth"🤣

  • @tracifisher475
    @tracifisher475 Před měsícem

    This is so good. I’m 47 & been listening to Hip Hop since 82-84. My co-workers and I tried to come up with a top 50. The age range 24-47. Lordee. We all learned a lot and I had to wrap the project up because it was a lot of suffering on both sides. 😂 Collectively, Rakim didn’t make too 25 - which is when I gave up - BUT I see what you’re saying about how this Gen receive Rakim by telephone. They don’t know, but we’re out here trying to teach. Appreciate this youtube and will be tuning in!

  • @dogsandyoga1743
    @dogsandyoga1743 Před měsícem +3

    Yo!!! That thumbnail looks exactly like my late father in law. I had to double take 😂

  • @johnplayer420
    @johnplayer420 Před měsícem +3

    7:30 I couldn't agree more about new rap not being any more offensive than older stuff. Black Sheep released U Mean I'm Not in 1991. I've since read that its lyrics were intended as parody, but it's so over the top it surpasses Frank Zappa territory.

  • @ghus2046
    @ghus2046 Před měsícem +2

    Sun’s Tirade by Isaiah Rashad and Rodeo by Travis dropped both on the same days and both tapes were pretty big in my school. Closest thing I can remember to a double classic drop in the past ten years

  • @amateurwaitstaff
    @amateurwaitstaff Před měsícem

    Love your videos in general but the hip hop focused ones are *chefs kiss.* Props to the person who brought up the Gatekeeper question. Definitely gonna check out T-Rock--that little sample you included sounded insanely good!

  • @shr00m7
    @shr00m7 Před měsícem +3

    Talking about the grimy rap (and regional/local rap) from back in the day- I think your brain was trying to refer to Kilo Ali's 'Love in ya mouth'- early Dungeon Family rapper that anyone who was in the skating rinks in Atlanta in the late 90's early 00's knows that song.

  • @freedomm
    @freedomm Před měsícem +5

    I'm bitter that a poseur like Drake has been allowed to steal hip-hop.

  • @apeiceofgarbage9848
    @apeiceofgarbage9848 Před 27 dny

    I think this is such a good format i would love to see a part two with other questions you didnt get a chance to answer in this video

  • @jaypee2558
    @jaypee2558 Před měsícem +1

    So to add something about the 90s that made it better than most eras that I think that you missed was that:
    1. Folks had become creative, not simply because of artist development, but because of mastery of the craft. You had a 10-15 year timespan to really get to know what it took to be an MC, so rappers were becoming more skilled.
    2. Beatmaking became much better. We were able to move away from the James Brown loops and "create" sounds. In the south we used live instruments (in production) much more than artists from NYC. We were singing on the hooks more too. We used samples in a much more skilled way, instead of just looping a hot R&B song (well everyone except you know who)
    3. Albums were much more diverse. In the 80s you had 8-12 tracks. Which normally included 1 track for the ladies and at least 1 track with your DJ showing off his skills. In the 90s the albums became more conceptual. Artists but more thought and detail into their work.
    4. The biggest thing I believe was the diversity of sound. In 94 on a Tuesday in June - Da Brat, House of Pain, Big Mike and Nice and Smooth dropped what would become some of the best work put out by each. Folks were still creating "conscious" music and in fact, the hip-hop community as a whole was leaning in that direction (especially after the Million Man March in 1995).

  • @starnova1372
    @starnova1372 Před měsícem +3

    so here for pawpaw F.D

  • @ShadyLife101
    @ShadyLife101 Před měsícem +6

    26 views in 1 minute? Man Unc fell off 😮

  • @nellaboy3760
    @nellaboy3760 Před měsícem

    I can tell you once were a teacher big homie because u force me to think about shit even when I don’t agree with u it still makes me at least question my thoughts man keep doing what u are doing Bro 💯💯❤️

  • @achronos178
    @achronos178 Před měsícem +35

    billy woods has been rapping in NY since the 90's around the same time as Aesop Rock and MF DOOM They're all around the same age, this is a terrible take you clearly skimmed through a few songs for a genuinely special Rapper who has more classics than Kendrick. billy woods dropped some of the best conscious rap in the 2000's this take not taking uncle.

    • @dogsandyoga1743
      @dogsandyoga1743 Před měsícem +5

      Woods has probably had my favorite 5 year run in history. And that's saying a LOT, considering I've been listening since 1984...

    • @YTwoKay
      @YTwoKay Před měsícem +2

      @@dogsandyoga1743 Him and Kenny Segal still got one album in the tank for 2024 too-- Hip hop is ALIVE

    • @nycedyme4
      @nycedyme4 Před měsícem

      Mid

    • @achronos178
      @achronos178 Před měsícem +1

      ​ @nycedyme4 You have a Drake playlist your opinion don't matter my G

  • @BryanBMusic
    @BryanBMusic Před měsícem +4

    Side note but this is why Beyonce really is one of the GOATs. She puts efforts into making albums as if they are fully realized concepts like the 90s

  • @ItsJustTise
    @ItsJustTise Před měsícem +2

    Shout out to you for giving Saigon and Psycho Drama their flowers. Amazing emcee’s in their own right.
    Keep up the great content

  • @RitualoftheHabit
    @RitualoftheHabit Před měsícem

    I dont think ive seen your videos before and i loved this! Cool stuff

    • @RitualoftheHabit
      @RitualoftheHabit Před měsícem

      Also just finished the video. Props to u for using sponcon to talk about real shit!!

  • @jzilla1234
    @jzilla1234 Před měsícem +4

    Tupac had the most impactful verses.
    Twista is the best technical rapper? Remember him? Underrated.
    Biggie had the best party songs. Dre had the best beats.
    Nas was inconsistent.
    Eminem is and always was mid. Drake is popstar poser.
    Jayz is wack.
    Diddy couldnot rap at all.
    Ice cube, the roots, public enemy and nwa were the most conscious

    • @BOGOworms4sale
      @BOGOworms4sale Před měsícem +2

      So what you’re saying is MF DOOM is the best rapper of all time 🤔

    • @jzilla1234
      @jzilla1234 Před měsícem

      ​​@@BOGOworms4sale who?
      Nah has to be pac for me. Not a single bad album.

    • @BOGOworms4sale
      @BOGOworms4sale Před měsícem +2

      @@jzilla1234 MF DOOM is my favorite artist lol but pac is such a respectable choice

    • @christinathein951
      @christinathein951 Před měsícem +1

      I wouldn’t hold being inconsistent against nas. Just cut his vision didn’t hit all the time that doesn’t downgrade the greatness of the artistry in his hits that he is widely lauded and praised for.

    • @jzilla1234
      @jzilla1234 Před měsícem

      @@christinathein951 true nas was epic in his prime. But he did fall off.

  • @Kdilla412
    @Kdilla412 Před měsícem

    Good vid, hope to see another one of these

  • @dslay3916
    @dslay3916 Před měsícem

    LOVED this video!!

  • @jayjayjenni
    @jayjayjenni Před měsícem +1

    I’m not even super into hip hop. Not any more than your average American. But I’m a big fan of you and your brain and so now I’m learning about hip hop just cause I like hearing you talk.

  • @teehlfx5238
    @teehlfx5238 Před měsícem

    Whatever you want to talk about I’m here to listen. Always well thought out and interesting ✅

  • @HipsHyde
    @HipsHyde Před měsícem +2

    Billy Woods is great and also impressive live performer. I can get that his vibe/atmosphere and abstract lyrics are something that is not for everybody. Still for me he is easily top-5 rapper right now

  • @kalka1l
    @kalka1l Před měsícem +1

    “How did I discover underground music?” Walking through Crown Heights, hanging in Prospect Park, on the subway, and sharing music with friends.
    Also the dude that had that kiosk in the Canal Street A/C station that has recorded house party cassettes and club performances.

  • @gatorcuhfoo7982
    @gatorcuhfoo7982 Před měsícem

    this video was js FD puttin me on to insane classics thanks bra

  • @grmgt
    @grmgt Před 9 dny

    This is one of the reasons i like you so much. You are older, BUT not a hypocrite. There's no unjustified "oh back in my day X was better". Anyway, thanks for the takes as always!