God is dead!...or is He? (Oven of Akhnai pt. 2)

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
  • Rabbis 1 - 0 God
    ...any bets for Round 2?
    *FIRST PART*: • Rabbis vs. God?! - The...
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    [Chapters:]
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:55 - The Story
    6:59 - Reaction
    7:43 - The Context
    11:52 - So... what does the story mean?
    16:16 - The Bottom Line
    17:48 - So... is God dead or isn't he?!
    --- 18:18 - The Paradox of God
    --- 18:46 - The Modern Condition
    --- 19:39 - Loving the Torah more than God
    20:48 - Outroduction
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    Video script:
    davidleon.blog/2024/01/05/god...
    Original source:
    Background: Baba Metzia 58b - 59a
    www.sefaria.org/Bava_Metzia.5...
    The Conclusion of the Oven of Akhnai story: Baba Metzia 59b
    www.sefaria.org/Bava_Metzia.5...
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  • @PhilosophicalStorytime
    @PhilosophicalStorytime  Před 6 měsíci

    10:57 - Why it's better to be burned alive than publicly humiliate someone
    In the Book of Genesis (the first book of the Bible) there was a guy called Judah (it's from him that the word "Jew" comes from).
    His son married a woman called Tamar. Then God killed him. Because he was wicked. The text doesn't state how.
    So Judah's second son 'inherited' Tamar as a wife, to give her children in his brother's name. But he didn't want his kids to go officially down as someone else's. So when he had sex with her, he pulled out before ejaculation. So God killed him.
    At this point, Judah's like "this b**** is cursed. don't want her spelling the end of my third son too." So he sends her back to her parents.
    But Tamar's like "dude, I'm part of your family now. you can't just kick me out - i'm not allowed to marry anyone else. so you owe me a husband. children. a family of my own."
    So she puts on the full facial covering of a ritual prostitute, stands by the roadside, waits for Judah, and convinces him to have a roll around the fields with her. They haggle. He promises her some goats or something. But he doesn't have them on him. Obviously. So he gives her his staff and seal as a deposit which she can exchange for the livestock later. Then they have sex.
    She gets pregnant.
    When he hears, Judah's like "wtf, she's still technically married to my family. She's dishonouring us by sleeping around. Let's burn her alive."
    And this is where the story gets relevant to the Talmud discussion on verbal mistreatment.
    Tamar still has Judah's staff and seal. She could have flashed them about openly and dragged his name through the mud. Instead, she sends this key ID to him through a messenger. She lets him know in private: "dude, you're the father."
    At this point, one imagines that Judah could have kept the objects and pretended it never happened. But he didn't. He called off the bonfire, and Tamar gave birth to twins.
    ...and it's thanks to her example that the Talmud concludes it's better to take the risk of being burnt alive than to humiliate someone else in public. *Even* when it would be hilarious if you did.

  • @zacharryklugman3151
    @zacharryklugman3151 Před 6 měsíci

    Much Nachas, a Mensch amongst Mensch, I love your videos