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  • How to weave for beginners. Learn step by step the basics on a weaving loom.
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    If you want to learn how to weave or you are a weaving loom beginner, then it is important to learn the basics. But don't worry, by learning and practicing weaving patterns and weaving techniques you can improve and develop your weaving skills.
    Here are the time stamps of each section of the video:
    00:13 Basic weaving terminology
    00:54 Shuttle
    01:50 Shed stick
    02:35 Weaving the shed stick
    03:05 Adding spacers to the warp
    06:48 Reweaving the shed stick
    07:24 Loom comb
    07:53 Begin weaving the weft yarns
    08:19 Catching the last warp yarn
    10:56 Adding/ changing yarns
    13:07 Weaving density
    Thank you for watching!
    Music used in the video:
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    "Cruise" by Ikson
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    "Can You Feel It" by Jay Bird
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Komentáře • 169

  • @bowietwombly5951
    @bowietwombly5951 Před 2 lety +128

    This is a very well-made video. Thank you for taking the time to do it. I would have found this video much more helpful though if you focused more on "why" things were done. For instance, what is the purpose of the spacers? You say they're optional, but that you always use them, but never tell us why, despite spending one quarter of the entire video showing us how to put them in. What happens if we don't use them? What difference does it make to use four instead of three?

    • @xosoms
      @xosoms Před 2 lety +10

      She said in video spacers straighten the warp...

    • @MoinKhan-dp9jg
      @MoinKhan-dp9jg Před 2 lety

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    • @GaiaCarney
      @GaiaCarney Před rokem +2

      @@xosoms - yes, you are right!

  • @arashafshari3854
    @arashafshari3854 Před 3 lety +5

    Best tutorial I have ever watched. Very creative. Thank you!

  • @Frnchpink40
    @Frnchpink40 Před 11 dny

    Great video. I watched to give myself an idea of a new class I am teaching and I have no experience with weaving. I can't wait to try this out.

  • @lindasloan88
    @lindasloan88 Před 4 lety +43

    Your tutorials are the best. I love your professional presentations. I have viewed hundreds of tutorials for weaving, and other fiber arts techniques and yours are the best. Thank you for helping us improve and enjoy our art forms.

    • @fibersanddesignweaving
      @fibersanddesignweaving  Před 4 lety +5

      What a lovely comment Linda- thank you so much! I am happy to hear that my tutorials are helpful and enjoyable. I really enjoy making them.Thank you for watching!

    • @mkaur9180
      @mkaur9180 Před 8 měsíci

      Flashback memories

    • @KyntubhashishaSari
      @KyntubhashishaSari Před 6 měsíci

  • @nynlou
    @nynlou Před rokem +1

    Thanks for your amazing content! I am just getting into weaving and your videos are perfect. 😊

  • @cookie5335
    @cookie5335 Před rokem

    I'll keep watching. Great vid. Just what I was looking for

  • @nobleteasimplitatii4566
    @nobleteasimplitatii4566 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for sharing with us! It is more than amazing!!!!Thank you!!!

  • @Laureuw
    @Laureuw Před 3 lety +45

    Hello! I am absolutely new to weaving, and i am just starting my first practice project, but i just wanted to say that your videos are really helpful! You're very clear and your voice is so soothing!
    Thank you so much!

    • @MoinKhan-dp9jg
      @MoinKhan-dp9jg Před 2 lety

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    • @GaiaCarney
      @GaiaCarney Před rokem +1

      Smileylou - my sentiments exactly 🤗 I’m a complete newbie, but these ‘Fibers and Design Weaving’ videos are helping to keep my a n x i e t y_d o w n . . .

  • @KnittingsAndSewings
    @KnittingsAndSewings Před rokem +1

    Great basic information. This is a fun way for people to get started weaving. NIce job of making it clear.

  • @RayleneIngamells
    @RayleneIngamells Před rokem

    This was very helpful and so clear, very well explained. Thank you.

  • @mahdihassan178
    @mahdihassan178 Před 2 lety +1

    Very well made tutorial. Thanks for sharing , teacher.

  • @mats8375
    @mats8375 Před 5 měsíci

    Simple, yet amazing!

  • @lauriedmills7581
    @lauriedmills7581 Před 2 lety

    You did an excellent job teaching each step - very well done :). Thank you.

  • @m.g.3021
    @m.g.3021 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you! So helpful.

  • @victoriamcintosh5122
    @victoriamcintosh5122 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you so much! this tutorial is amazing and so easy to follow!

  • @mikeburr6046
    @mikeburr6046 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you.Really clear explanation to get me started

  • @lynxhart101
    @lynxhart101 Před 3 lety +16

    I watched the Getty Museums video on how tapestries are made and ended up looking at "how to weave" on youtube, just to see if there was any. I had no idea you could actually make a loom! This looks so fun, I might try it. Thanks for taking the time to make such a thorough video ❣️

  • @xIo-_
    @xIo-_ Před 7 měsíci

    Hi! I’ve only ever woven for small art projects, but I’m about to make some Christmas gifts(a month early). This may turn into a hobby of mine, too, so thanks for making this video! :)

  • @banditquest4756
    @banditquest4756 Před 2 lety

    Excellent Instructional Video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge,

  • @krn2487
    @krn2487 Před 3 lety +2

    👏👏👏It was a lot helpful!! Thank you!!!

  • @akashhela8521
    @akashhela8521 Před 2 lety +1

    This is fabulous work 😍.

  • @alehzr98
    @alehzr98 Před 4 lety +19

    This is amazing! Definitely fitting into a much needed niche!

  • @Areej9828
    @Areej9828 Před 3 lety +4

    Amazing videos! So helpful; thank you so much ❤️

  • @SewpBox
    @SewpBox Před 3 lety +4

    Great tutorial!

  • @9monava
    @9monava Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this fantastic video! Really helpful and motivating!

  • @brighter_than_apathy
    @brighter_than_apathy Před 3 lety +8

    I know I'm a little late but WOW! Thank you so much!!

    • @redpandaluver8561
      @redpandaluver8561 Před 3 lety +2

      Me too! Ha. I'm considering getting into weaving and there just didn't seem like any guides out there for new people. Happy I found this!

  • @lauralangley7240
    @lauralangley7240 Před 3 lety

    I just started a project and am new to weaving . Thank you for your help and tips.

  • @disler85
    @disler85 Před 2 lety

    excellent information - thank u!

  • @danielndungu7443
    @danielndungu7443 Před rokem

    thank you very much for showing me easy peasy😉

  • @shao.1030
    @shao.1030 Před 2 lety

    the video is helpful for me, thank you

  • @vivianwou5647
    @vivianwou5647 Před 2 lety

    What a genius!

  • @ajkivines2062
    @ajkivines2062 Před 3 lety +2

    Great channel!

  • @-Komsan236
    @-Komsan236 Před rokem

    I love this video

  • @girlattack08
    @girlattack08 Před 3 lety +61

    Hi, I'm absolutely new to this, so please forgive me. How do I get my project of off the loom?

    • @fibersanddesignweaving
      @fibersanddesignweaving  Před 3 lety +19

      Great question! You can find in my video, czcams.com/video/I-GnM-MzXk4/video.html , several ways to remove the warp from the loom :) Hope this helps- please message me if you have more questions.

    • @roxycake662
      @roxycake662 Před 3 lety +10

      @Stanley Skylar you sound very possesive of your girlfriend i think you need to learn some boundaries.

    • @kiyola9990
      @kiyola9990 Před 3 lety +2

      @@roxycake662 we stan ╰(*´︶`*)╯♡

    • @littlenana4888
      @littlenana4888 Před 2 lety +1

      @@roxycake662 what did they say

    • @roxycake662
      @roxycake662 Před 2 lety +2

      @@littlenana4888 oh sorry I can’t remember it was a long time ago .
      I remember it was quite toxic and possessive though.

  • @pavneetsingh5685
    @pavneetsingh5685 Před rokem

    Tip was a really nice video!

  • @teresap268
    @teresap268 Před 2 lety

    Great video.

  • @aidastentel2195
    @aidastentel2195 Před 5 měsíci

    EXCELLENT!!!!!.......excellent!.....bravo!

  • @judithamase1641
    @judithamase1641 Před 2 lety

    i needed it for 🏫

  • @dilenued1963
    @dilenued1963 Před 2 lety +1

    This is very good for me to try out because I looked for videos which are easy to replicate but were not that easy to copy. The items that were included in the other videos were not easy to find but yours used locally available materials. Thankyou

  • @janetcozens4623
    @janetcozens4623 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi there 👏👏👏👏 That was a fantastic demo I am subscribed and I will keep coming back so that I can check out this video 😁😁😁 Stay Safe

  • @janetcozens4623
    @janetcozens4623 Před 4 lety +1

    I have just found you yippieee I have also subscribed cant believe it just what Iwas looking for (smiles)

  • @heatherhaney9128
    @heatherhaney9128 Před 3 lety

    I love the video I’m new to it

  • @annettemillette273
    @annettemillette273 Před 2 lety

    Certainly I will try

  • @khawlaweaving7168
    @khawlaweaving7168 Před 2 lety

    Very beautiful 💕💕

  • @mariajscheller1284
    @mariajscheller1284 Před 3 lety +1

    Hello, grateful for a sturdy loom recommendation for a 5yo boy (which I hope to use in later years). The Melissa & Doug one has been recommended to me. Is there another quality option around?

  • @margapusa
    @margapusa Před 3 lety

    soooo suuuuuuuper ;)

  • @timsmith550
    @timsmith550 Před 4 lety +6

    I have a small wooden loom.Approx. 11 x 8.5. I want to make a wrap(cant remember the name it is called), for the pastor ,for christmas,but my loom is to small , how can i join the next piece. THANK YOU SUE

  • @nickaadatuin8378
    @nickaadatuin8378 Před 3 lety +3

    Hi, do I have to put another tissue spacers at the other end of the loom, like both ends have tissue spacers or just one end?

  • @joyjusti1102
    @joyjusti1102 Před 2 lety +1

    Super and easy , but I want to know the space between these threads. Frame size and some of the videos using adjustable of Each line of weaving like reducing the space of the weaving mat rows

  • @akashhela8521
    @akashhela8521 Před 2 lety

    Thanks 😊🙏 so much Mam 💓.

  • @maanaimak
    @maanaimak Před 3 lety +6

    Hi, thanks for the tips! I've made three pieces, but when they got of the loom, they are a bit bubbly, what can be the cause? The warp is not too tight, not too loose... I used yarns with different kind of thicknesses.
    Best from Holland 💐

  • @arjunchakravorty1135
    @arjunchakravorty1135 Před 3 lety

    Thanks thanks thanks sooooooo much , I am a beginner, and I am just starting weaving by make a small woven piece , I want to get my project out of the loom. The video you gave us doesn't helped me , so please tell me how to get my woven piece out of the loom. But this video helped me very much , so again Thanks.

  • @CultureVulture18
    @CultureVulture18 Před 3 lety

    Very good and helpful video

  • @nunya4344
    @nunya4344 Před 3 lety +2

    How would you go about making a mesh canvas?

  • @jalikumbasuso6871
    @jalikumbasuso6871 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much for sow us

  • @AustinMorgan-uw3sd
    @AustinMorgan-uw3sd Před měsícem

    As a guy seamster, this extremely helpful

  • @jillpohren4801
    @jillpohren4801 Před 3 lety +10

    Hi, thanks for sharing this tutorial. Question please: what’s the purpose of the spacer? Thanks!

  • @kaylaw1937
    @kaylaw1937 Před 3 lety +1

    What is the cool shed stick in the preview image?

  • @genghis_connie
    @genghis_connie Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for this!
    I missed why one would weave on a diagonal first. Can you explain?
    Also, is there a reason to *not* use a yarn needle instead?
    Thank you! It’s been years since you posted this.
    Hoping you get it.
    🧶🧵🤞

  • @KP-fq1ni
    @KP-fq1ni Před rokem +1

    What is the benefit to using spacers?

  • @AndreaStevens2012
    @AndreaStevens2012 Před 2 lety

    I can't seem to locate the "previous video" that you mention, the one about making a cardboard loom. Coud you please tell me the name of the video or share the link? I would greatly appreciate it. And thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!

  • @wendy-lynnemackinnon4918

    I am absolutely new to this and wonder why you need spacers?.
    You used tissue, but what other material is used?

  • @imalikconnor
    @imalikconnor Před 3 lety +2

    What is the purpose of the tissue? I am just learning

  • @nafiurrahman722
    @nafiurrahman722 Před rokem

    Hi! I am a new viewer of your channel. I wanted ask, how I can control a specific gap between the yarns. I want to produce grid-pattern fabric (like a square net) with 12mm gap between the yarns.

  • @katsikatra
    @katsikatra Před 3 lety

    Would you say warp yarn is a good material for bracelet making?

  • @kstudent2071
    @kstudent2071 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this video! I recently received a basic loom, and has not the piece you wrap your weft around but a needle. How do I estimate the amount of weft yarn from the beginning, and how do I do it with only a needle?

    • @j.dreessen8503
      @j.dreessen8503 Před 10 měsíci +1

      The piece used to pass the weft through the loom's warp is called a shuttle, and it literally only holds your weft material so you don't have to pass a loose bundle of yarn through the "shed" (the gap created in the warp by using the shed stick). You can use a needle, but the idea is being able to slide your weft yarn through relatively quickly and very accurately. A needle is certainly very accurate, but likely quite slow.
      Estimating weft yarn is a little tricky, but the basic formula is: Length (of finished piece) * Width (of finished piece) * PPI (picks per inch, which is related to how your loom is warped). Length and Width should both be expressed in inches for continuity of units. Divide the answer by 36 if you want yardage, and remember the rule of estimating: add a little for future errors. :)

  • @lachlannae
    @lachlannae Před 3 lety +8

    What was the purpose of the "spacers" that she started with?

    • @sulli1189
      @sulli1189 Před 3 lety +1

      Its for tightening the warp yarns so that when you're weaving, the main threads won't loosen while you pull on them through the project.

  • @taniakol
    @taniakol Před 2 lety +2

    Looks great, thank you but wondering why you wouldn't keep the 2nd shed in and use it rather than pick through each warp thread when you go back the other way. I'm just learning so maybe I'll discover why.

    • @louisegogel7973
      @louisegogel7973 Před 2 lety +1

      If you tie the ends of every other thread to one stick and the others to another, you can lift these up each time… you secure the sticks so they keep the threads steady but allow them to move up or down when you want.

    • @taniakol
      @taniakol Před 2 lety +1

      @@louisegogel7973 Thank you yes I tried that and it was more frustrating/slower than just going back and forth between the threads. "secure the sticks" hmm. Maybe that's the operative phrase. Not sure how that could be achieved. I just pulled the stick taut with one hand and tried to manoeuvre the yarn through the shed with the other. Need more hands lol.

    • @louisegogel7973
      @louisegogel7973 Před 2 lety

      @@taniakol The sticks themselves wouldn’t have to be secured onto anything as long as the end of the warp is secure. This way one can loop any number of desired strings onto separate sticks to lift as needed for whatever pattern is desired.
      The setting up would be the most time consuming part, but once achieved would make listing each of the layers a breeze. I would color code, number, or label the sticks for which strings they are lifting. You could of course make any number of cardboard or wooden heddles for the lifting instead of looping string around your warp threads.

    • @taniakol
      @taniakol Před 2 lety +1

      @@louisegogel7973 Thank you, if you know of a vid that shows the 2nd stick method that would be great. I was looking and couldn't find one. As I said I did it and it was very frustrating - tying every other warp thread onto a stick, and then attempting to pull that stick away with one hand, trying to keep the warp threads taut enough to put the yarn through the shed with the other hand.. Maybe it was harder because I had the frame vertical, on a stand, rather than flat on a table, I don't know, but it didn't work for me.

    • @louisegogel7973
      @louisegogel7973 Před 2 lety +1

      @@taniakol Hmm, I think that is why she has that blade in there, to hold the thread apart after you life the stick. I will look and see what I can come up with.

  • @rissa1001
    @rissa1001 Před 11 měsíci

    What do I do w the fabric after I get done weaving?

  • @clarity150
    @clarity150 Před 4 lety +5

    Can you use embroidery thread for the warp? That’s all I have for something like the warp.

    • @fibersanddesignweaving
      @fibersanddesignweaving  Před 4 lety +5

      Thank you for sharing your question :)
      (Short answer: In these times, just experiment, use what you have and give it a try. Perhaps sample with a smaller loom style (maybe make a small pin loom) to see how many ends you need for the design and what’s the best weft. Below are some tips🌻)
      The warp should hold the weft yarn in place- so, the way I check the strength of the warp is by pulling on the 2 ends of the yarn. If the yarn can withstand the pressure, then its ok.
      Now, embroidery thread is really thin, but sturdy. Perhaps using yarn that is also thin for weft could work- and increasing the number of ends per inch when dressing the loom.
      Hope this helps :)

    • @clarity150
      @clarity150 Před 4 lety +3

      Thanks, it really does!

  • @ishbalangirl
    @ishbalangirl Před rokem

    So you can't pull the yarn too tight on the loom? The last time I did it I think I pull it too tight. And for the old yarn and the new yarn, do you just leave them there until you tie them together?

  • @devsomething5897
    @devsomething5897 Před 2 lety +1

    how do you take your project out?

  • @esheboyette3887
    @esheboyette3887 Před 2 lety

    What do you mean by catch the warp yarn?

  • @notoftheworld508
    @notoftheworld508 Před 2 lety

    Can I do this on clothing?

  • @riyanaser6816
    @riyanaser6816 Před rokem

    Very much helpful!
    But how do you take out the piece from the loom when you are done?

    • @j.dreessen8503
      @j.dreessen8503 Před 10 měsíci

      Scissors! The warp ends will need knotting or binding to prevent unraveling.

  • @jennifernicol4670
    @jennifernicol4670 Před 9 měsíci

    This must be a stupid question but when you’re putting the weft on the warp you mention something about catching the end of the yarn...What do you mean by that how do you catch it

  • @samikh7346
    @samikh7346 Před 3 lety

    Great .. I am a teacher .. Would you allow me to show this video to my younger students?

  • @minniesuedavies6375
    @minniesuedavies6375 Před 3 lety +2

    Hi, two questions. How do you get it off the strings if you do? And how do you tie it at the end? X

  • @mileygal102
    @mileygal102 Před rokem

    I’m so lost. I’m using a ball of yarn and my weft looks incorrect to me, how do you keep the yarn from overlapping ?? I do one weave with the shed stick but there’s two strings of yarn

  • @natashka1982
    @natashka1982 Před 3 lety

    I like this method more than doing "bubbles"

  • @user-uy9vx8rz8g
    @user-uy9vx8rz8g Před 6 měsíci

    👍👍👍

  • @visanlala
    @visanlala Před 2 měsíci

    💯💯💯❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @meganeimers8450
    @meganeimers8450 Před 3 lety +1

    It seems like a great video, but I didn't finish due to the sheer number of ads.

  • @thomasbingham2797
    @thomasbingham2797 Před 3 lety

    Put a bit of tape on the ends of the shuttle stick

  • @Papismackmyassss
    @Papismackmyassss Před 3 lety +2

    Hello I have been weaving for a few months now and I have no idea how to finish it. I have been trying to ends off after cutting it off the loom but it just falls apart. So I tried to wet finish it and it still doesn't work. I have been using acrylic and polyester yarn. Do Synthetic yarns not work?

    • @fibersanddesignweaving
      @fibersanddesignweaving  Před 3 lety +2

      Great question! You can use various fibers and materials to weave, but creating a secure base is key. When you start, secure the first row with the twining pattern. And, the last row of weaving should be a row of twining- this will secure the weft ends when you cut the weaving off or display it.
      After you remove the weaving from the loom, you must secure the ends. I have a video on 6/7 ways to secure and display weaving and a tutorial on twining. I will leave links in the description shortly! :) I hope this helps!

    • @Papismackmyassss
      @Papismackmyassss Před 3 lety +2

      @@fibersanddesignweaving Thank you! This really helps

    • @MoinKhan-dp9jg
      @MoinKhan-dp9jg Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/-EQ6eFuIWKw/video.html

  • @JanisGagliardi
    @JanisGagliardi Před 3 lety

    i don't understand the spacer with paper?

  • @franka9161
    @franka9161 Před 8 měsíci

    I’m so confuse on the page picture is normal loom but you go in and it’s a handmade one.

  • @TheGholiday
    @TheGholiday Před 2 lety +1

    What do the spacers do? They just seem to sit at the bottom of the project and I can’t see their purpose.

  • @ShatteredRippleBooks
    @ShatteredRippleBooks Před 2 lety

    Fascinating but I don't have the patience for all that fiddling about 😂😂. I'll stick to knitting and crochet.

  • @Bee-lc3tz
    @Bee-lc3tz Před 9 měsíci

    What's the point of the spacers??

  • @AddilynneLastname
    @AddilynneLastname Před 2 lety

    would it be possible to join these into a garmet?

  • @rainkhamose5374
    @rainkhamose5374 Před 2 lety

    recommend me again...

  • @marteenie7189
    @marteenie7189 Před 3 lety

    watching this bc im a carat huhu

  • @vickistone3700
    @vickistone3700 Před 5 lety +5

    I think a long needle would be easier

    • @fibersanddesignweaving
      @fibersanddesignweaving  Před 5 lety +4

      Hi Vicki- Thanks for your comment!
      Yes, a long needle IS a great alternative to using a tapestry bobbin or weaving shuttle on a frame loom. I try to show a variation of methods.
      Thank you for watching!

  • @hannahculver2657
    @hannahculver2657 Před 3 lety

    The screenshot for the video is misleading. I was under the impression you’d be using a heddle bar. I didn’t see that in any of this, perhaps considering using screenshots from the actual video.

  • @USMission2ASEAN
    @USMission2ASEAN Před 2 lety

    If you are interested in weaving, you may enjoy this video about weavers in East Sumba: czcams.com/video/j-QUcHwaW18/video.html

  • @sukiyumki
    @sukiyumki Před 3 lety +18

    POV: you are a carat

  • @bree5609
    @bree5609 Před 4 lety +2

    This might sound really silly, but what are the spacers for? I don’t understand their purpose. 🙈

    • @fibersanddesignweaving
      @fibersanddesignweaving  Před 4 lety +3

      There are a few helpful things that the spaces can do. 1. Help hold the place of the first few strands of weft (so that it isn't sliding down). 2. Space out the warp yarns. The warp needs some support when you first start weaving.On a frame loom they often need a few rows to help space out. Using some form of spacers give the warp some space to straighten out and keep their space away from each other. Hope this helps! Please let me know if you have any further questions about it! :)

  • @chavakern3124
    @chavakern3124 Před 2 lety +2

    Nice video, thank you! But the music is so unnecessary and actually annoying. Would you consider leaving it out in future videos?

  • @aileenelizabethtrip8269
    @aileenelizabethtrip8269 Před 3 lety +1

    Good video, but too many ads!