Rabbit Hole: Phase Noise Measurement Challenges - UNI-T UTG962E Function/Signal Generator

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024

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  • @mass_in_a_can
    @mass_in_a_can Před 5 měsíci +2

    I came across one of your videos I was looking for how to use a Multimeter and it's from 12 years ago, I'm really happy to see that you're still teaching and explaining. May God bless you and thank you for all your help.

    • @mjlorton
      @mjlorton  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks very much for you post.

  • @ChrisSmith-tc4df
    @ChrisSmith-tc4df Před 5 měsíci +2

    The measurement techniques that you’re using measure a combination of phase noise plus the amplitude noise. Some applications are sensitive to both while others are mostly sensitive to only the phase noise component. That’s the driver behind he more sophisticated (and expensive) measurement techniques that can differentiate and measure the two separately.

    • @mjlorton
      @mjlorton  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks for your input.

  • @paulpaulzadeh6172
    @paulpaulzadeh6172 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Something for Dr. Shahriar , the signal path

  • @Frank_K4FMH
    @Frank_K4FMH Před 5 měsíci

    MJ, I ALWAYS appreciate your candor and honesty in your videos! Thanks for a great tutorial and sharing in your journey with the generator and evaluating its phase noise. BTW, I have a Rigol SiFi version of the two port, phase signal gen.

  • @dm-br1hv
    @dm-br1hv Před 5 měsíci

    MJ, I measured the PN at 10KHz offset on a professional PN test set. The PN at this offset is -134 dB for the UTG962E I measured. Other offsets 100 Hz (-87 dB); 1 kHz (-128 dB); 100 kHz (-133 dB). The reference used was a 10 MHz Morion ultra low PN block. The output level of the UT was set to 0 dBm. I can email you the plots if you want. I have plots for PN, AM noise and ADEV.

  • @ruhnet
    @ruhnet Před 5 měsíci

    Look into using the phase detector method-it’s probably the most economical way to get good measurements. There’s a good chance that some of what you were seeing was AM noise which can often be easily confused for phase noise.

  • @jaakjaak0427
    @jaakjaak0427 Před 5 měsíci

    Reminds me of when I sold an HP vco/pll test set to BlackBerry in the 90's. Half the cost was the ultra clean source required to allow the measurements to happen.

  • @leybraith3561
    @leybraith3561 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Agree with the 'Rabbit Hole' Title, Good description of the hassles involved in creating and checking specs. Well done on description of working through it and the potholes in the road to the solution. Bet the engineers who determined the published specs needed to navigate around a few potholes themselves. Much food for thought (lettuce?). Nice video.

  • @mohsenSL
    @mohsenSL Před 5 měsíci

    Nice to see you ❤

  • @andrewevans1353
    @andrewevans1353 Před 2 měsíci

    How does one go about troubleshooting electrical noise/ interference/ harmonic resonance on AFCI and AFGF circuits? I am an electrician and nuisance trips are kicking my butt.
    I know LED/under cabinet lights can interfere with appliances/ equipment even though they aren’t on the same circuit. In addition, they won’t trip the circuit until there is a load (compressor or vacuum for example) which makes it extremely hard to recreate the unique circumstances causing the nuisance trip.
    What kind of tools should I use; multimeter, oscilloscope or something else? What should I be looking for; a sign wave, frequency, amperage, etc.?

  • @paulpaulzadeh6172
    @paulpaulzadeh6172 Před 5 měsíci

    Very nice , we miss you , back to business again ❤❤

  • @Homer19521
    @Homer19521 Před 5 měsíci

    Great video. I really learned a lot. So what would be the spec for the 962 given your method? BTW, I own one and like it and I suspect, it meets my hobbyist PN needs.

  • @sdgelectronics
    @sdgelectronics Před 5 měsíci

    I quite like the UTG962 for quickly creating some waveforms, though it does create all kinds of glitches and undefined waveforms whilst adjusting the settings with the output on. My TTi TGA1244 behaves much better in that respect.

    • @mjlorton
      @mjlorton  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks for your valuable input good man. Noted in the review I'm about to post.

  • @link2921
    @link2921 Před 5 měsíci

    First!

  • @link2921
    @link2921 Před 5 měsíci

    First!