Why Everyone Hated Barrows On Release
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Barrows is considered one of RuneScape's perfect updates. But on release, players absolutely hated it. However, Jagex was able to fix it with just one simple change. Don't miss this exciting part of RuneScape's history!
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Back in my day I had to walk backwards uphill through the swamp for 50 miles to get to Barrows.
I was there aswel.
Yep build a bridge and run out of run twice and lose half my food to ghasts
Whilst performing a handstand?
And we LIKED IT that way.
And then try to melee all the brothers, eventually die and lose all your stuff.
The fact Barrows is still relevant (and is still rewarding) all these years later is a feat in and of itself.
also has to do with how well they handled power creep in osrs
ya even in rs3 they still get used not as much but for mid/low lvls :)
Barrows could use a small buff to the amount of runes we get there
@@user-jy1eo2ch8j I think the diary rewards offer up to double the amount you get.
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Back in the day fun fact: back when you died and your loot instantly dropped to the ground. i used to go to popular worlds and high alch inside dharoks grave until someone got clapped 😅
I kind of miss that shit. There would always be like 3 or 4 people there just arching away. And when someone died snatching their loot was so funny.
Bro I still remember that being a thing in early OSRS
@@3216ben1same. Coincidentally, I used to see a lot of piles in the crypt of barrows. People would underestimate the falling rocks when having to leave after looting the chest
Do you remember poisoned people making a run for the bank in full gear having a trail of 5-6 people following them in hopes they'd die?
@@givemyselfthecreeps yes haha!
I remember the week barrows came out. There was a method at barrows that was way better than doing barrows itself. It was from looting people that died there. I remember me and my cousin made almost 100m in the first month of barrows. I miss those times so much!
The armor till this date looks fire still. Amazing work by the art team here.
Some of my favorite nuggets of osrs content is the stuff that was made 2007 and earlier that still has major relevance today and isn't just dead content, i.e. dks, quests like rfd, dt, mm, and clues. But Barrows to me is the perfect example of this. Such a great variety of possible unique drops and is popular with players of a wide level range. Very accessible content that doesn't really get easier with better gear just faster.
Late night doomscrolling interrupted by quality Colenello content.
Glad I’m not alone
Yes.
Damn, 3:30A.M. thanks for making me check the time 😂 Hit the nail on the head, Colonello dropping heat 🔥
What is doom scrolling?
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klanks gauntlets is such a forgotten throwback
I used them for so long! classic.
I used them until recently and did parts of Rfd for mith gauntlets.
I was doing low level barrows at the start of my account, had a frw dozen kc and got cocky. Trying to save on prayer pots (my only real cost) I turned off my prayer when i landed the last hit on Dharok. But it wasn't the last hit, he had 1 hp left. Then he did what Dharok does and hit me for max damage and kills me instantly.
ole Billy Boy is a hacker having a legends cape without DT being completed.
The Mr. Krabs meme got me 🤣
Poor Torags. I remember Barrows on launch and the insane outcry from d chain owners, my first thought was "Oh sweet, I might finally afford a d chain"
I remember being the ''safespot'' guy for random noobs then stepping aside when Dharok was low health and after they died I looted their grave. Then I proceeded to loot the chest too. Now with the safe kiddy deaths it's no longer possible
I can get calling it a "safe kiddy death" but suppose you lag out and die in gwd or other instance bosses and there was no grave. And if you lose everything upon death, the average player isn't as willing to do harder bosses. I think the grave system is fair. Losing 100m+ because internet outage or something shouldn't be penalized.
when your scam doesnt work anymore :(
Back in the day, we would spend hours gearing up to do barrows. Your hart would be pumping hard the whole time. When you open the chest and everything starts to shake... oh man the nostalgia.
As a kid, I wasn't a huge fan of Barrows. The ghasts always went through half my food, I wasn't skilled enough at the time to really understand the mechanics (I even used poison to kill them, while sitting and waiting for them to die), and it was an absolute pain to get to. Now, it's one of my favorite bosses to kill while chilling.
The story you told of Billy is exactly how I did barrows back then and I also got nuked by dharok and devastated and didn't play for like a week. It was the first time I died ever aside from messing around in the wilderness with no real gear as I was super careful all the time back then because of how hardcore the stakes were. The worst part was even figuring out how to get back quest items that were bis back then like klank's gauntlets and having to go through the underground pass again which was way, way more annoying than it is now.
Runescape was much more fun back in the days when we didn't know how the mechanics worked
Torag needs a rework. I still think it's the coolest looking set. I looooove them hammmers smackkks
there’s a question in the latest poll regarding torags hammers
You sound a lil sick there buddy, hope you get well soon!! Thank you for pushing out content though. :3
Thank you, I hope so too! :3
Your intro to this video reminds me of when I used to go into the falador mines and try to get bots killed for their rune pickaxes
I can remember doing Barrows in 2006 before the rework where the brothers wouldn't pop up on the screen all the time and the rooms were similar to any other underground cave instead of the Sleske powered rooms existed. But dying was so unforgiving so you only bring enough stuff you were willing to lose. And no one knew about the 83% to 88% for no bolt racks so every run was 100%
Barrows is the best content to have been introduced to the game.
I remember spamming the doors once the brother was already spawned to get another brother. pretty sure you could get as many brothers as you could until they just killed you.
We were absolutely soloing KQ after barrows release with veracs. It was hard, you needed very high stats for the time and "max" everything including stupid stuff like Clank's gauntlets, but it was certainly done. You got maybe 1 kill a trip but getting a d-chain drop was the best part of being a kid during that time.
It's almost as if, if someone spends an insane amount of time grinding for something, developers probably shouldn't just casually throw away that investment. It seems that's a lesson Jagex is struggling to hang onto.
But still, it's crazy how Barrows is still relevant and useful to this day (even if a lot less so than back then).
The core development comes from the linage of DND style early “MMO’s” that predates the whole World Wide Web. In essence that’s exactly what RuneScape is/was. An open world “dungeon” to explore with friends, raise levels, explore, go on quests, socialize. Go to the danger zone to have a battle of egos and strength. Risk it all for glory. That’s what made rs so popular among friend groups. Moving away from that imo is what has made the game boring and grindy. Everything is a competition now that no one actually cares about your achievements. I partially blame the new internet too lol.
Degrading armor was a good choice! I didn't like it on corrupted dragon or pvp equipment, since I believed it would crumble to dust. Not sure if that was the case.
Correct. There was no repair options, it would go away completely. But the coolest part is that they were nonmembers. No spec attack obviously but if you pk’d with that in a nonmems you were a god
I remember farming barrows for g spears cause at that time they were going for 8-15m looooooong time ago
I had no idea about the shortcut behind the bar
Man, you mentioning Blue's being 9m honestly made me regret some decisions I made even harder..
Back in 2005 I had a couple hundred mil and was umming and ahhing over getting a party hat and mask set for the longest time.. And then I focused on School and work and forgot all about RS until 2011.. When I came back, they were over 100m and my cash stack was even back then considered to be chump change..
My clan gifted me a veracs set and I had to grind my defense to wear it. So worth it! It’s an upgrade from my dragon armor for some purposes, but I still use both. 😊
The fact that barrows gear broke was the reason I never bought any sets.
The barrows was not only such a great update for end game, but it also had mechanics that allowed for low levels to complete runs even if you were sacrificing a lot more money wise in resources.
I still made struggle runs to get items in just zammy robes + slayer dart, and it worked! Barrows still rules!
I remember in the early days of Barrows and player Gravestones where your Gravestone had a limited duration based on which one you had and after it ran out it went back to people being able to FFA your stuff. But other players could "Bless" your gravestone to extend the duration. One of my few early memorys of runescape is a bunch of people camping a gravestone at the Barrows chest. To this day i have no idea why but after getting the final brother and looting my chest i popped a prayer pot and blessed that gravestone. I to this day remember the censored rage spam those people waiting on that gravestone heaped on me.
early days of barrows and gravestones are years apart
Thats not early day barrows bro
5:26 Who's that in the background? Hmmm
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U said ths torags one is useless but karils is the useless one that lowers agility. Torags in a very niche situation could be useful
Been playing this game for 20 years and just now learned you can have a cannon inside of Barrows... I don't remember ever seeing that done lol.
not everyone had Dovydas to safespot Dharok
I don't recall barrows ever being hated, but then again I was mostly hanging around national communities back then and haven't been reading too many of the English forums. Don't recall the items not degrading at first either, but maybe it's due to same reasons as well.
Hard to justify using barrows gear for bossing/minigames when most things in the game are trivialized by prayer. "Oh I could use the extra defence" vs "Oh my prayer just blocks 100% of the damage anyway". Exceptions apply
People weren’t prayer flicking and prayer potions were expensive
You gave me ptad and also made me realize my hidden insecurities for bossing lol crazy trip down memory lane
1:35 Nostalgia is hitting very hard here. Rune and dragon equipment, dragon longsword, killing tortoises. Holy shit
This was literally my main money maker back in 2005. Didnt really know how to play good but i was amazing at waiting for people to die at barrows.
Made my first 10m doing barrows when I was young looting other people's stuff who died
This video smashed me so hard with childhood nostalgia i nearly fell off of my chair.
Then there are others who feel the barrows degrading slowly over time led to them making every item degrade as a "money sink" that even they eventually realized wasnt good and have almost stopped doing in favour of GE tax and death costs.
2:30 is why I would bring noted food and pots.
funny how i havent played runescape for about 8 years, and havent watched any rs videos for 2-3 years, but still got this video recommended.
Still remember selling a d chain for 25m and buying a santa hat back in the day
I had a really good low p pot method for barrows within a year of the release kept it on the down low then stopped playing then I used it a ton when osrs came out. slayer dart + entangle you get about 4 attacks then you run around the coffin and wait till you can entangle again then I only needed p pots for karil and ahrim
Crazy how Dharoks hits almost double that now.
Imo this is the best rs story telling channel on all of CZcams. Great video
Thank you so much!!
@@ColonelloRS only speaking the truth 🙏
Good old times when dieing actually meant something in this game.
Losing your stuff was fine when it was black dhide, full rune, and mystic.
@@turnkey_holeyou realize that was pricey back then
@@jeremym6813 picking flax for a few hours would have you back up to speed.
Imagine doing Dharok last tho
Early 2000s is when me my brother and all my friends in hs played, I remember when barrows dropped. It was super tough. We used dragon halbreds to safe spot the kalphite queen before that got patched. But it's how a few of us got d chains
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I remember the day it came out my friend got a dharok plate and sold it for 30m in the park, oh nostalgia
Barrows equipement is strong even now. Its crazy how cheap and easy to get it is for its bonuses.
Ahh talking through the route from east varrock is nostalgic for me. All that effort for one chest, and praying for a guthans spear.
Colonello. Thank you for these videos along with the time and effort that goes Into them. I started playing In April 2001. These days when I get on I'm able to tele basically anywhere In the game. I have unlimited run energy which wasn't even a thing on classic. I can try end game bosses and If I die I just pay a small fee and get everything back. I have the ge to trade on without the fear of being scammed unless I'm trading for a rare which I can't afford so I don't have that worry. Anyways what I'm trying to say Is that I often forget just how punishing yet fun Rs used to be years ago. BTW when you mentioned the d chain It reminded me of when d meds and Sq shields were first released. I sold everything I owned to buy a d med for 3.5m which was a lot of money back then. I was the very proud owner for an hour when I gave my email out to a random player who keylogged me lmao. Also I remember when hitting your first 10, 20 and eventually 30 was mind blowing. 😂😂😂😂
This happened when I played, it confused a young me because the value of items changed so much. I switched around that time
Im so glad you're posting frequently again. I don't even play osrs anymore but your videos are always so interesting anyways
Glad you like them! Thank you!
Barrows was my favorite activity of all time in RS2.
Wasn't the Dharok set effect broken on release or am I remembering that wrong? I'm pretty sure I remember it doing absolutely nothing for a while.
Barely related but I like to do something I like to call "Legacy bossing", when you kill a boss, you are only allowed to use gear, spells, prayer, and supplies that was in the game *before* the boss was added. It's like a little taste of nostalgia. Without going into specific details, my set up for melee is dragon with a whip, range is black d'hide with a crystal bow, and magic with mythic with a ancient staff.
Bro you cant start with the ad at 0 seconds. That’s wild asf
Omg, that long walk to forget the spade.... I did so many times 😂😂😂 It was terrible. Good memories. Amazing video!!
I remember dying at barrows trying to melee everything and losing all my shit. Prob quit for a while after that. Also there’s no way I used the boaty back then I was walking through the whole swamp maze
what's funny is the degrade mechanic is pretty irrelevant these days. Like I don't even think about having to repair it until I go to sell it back. Which is another thing to consider. The GE has made things so smooth that you don't really need to pay attention to things like that so the degrade cost becomes pretty irrelevant and sometimes the market shifts enough that you sometimes make enough profit to make up for the repair cost
Thank you for the little history lessons, I always look forward to your videos! This was before my time (summer 06.) It's so awesome to learn about troubles from the early days!
Torag's armor came in clutch for me when I was poor in 2008-2009. Nobody wanted it cause the set effect was worthless, but because of that, it was cheap, even though it had the best defense stats in the game. And by that point in the game, we had the armor stand in our POHs. I had a decent smithing level so even repairs were cheap.
Shout out if you were alching your yew longbows inside Dharok's tomb, while also typing red:@@@ on top of other players so they couldn't see their HP bar
You're a hero m8, these vids keep us sane
Hoenstly i watch a crap ton of runescape yotube but I don't think I get more exicted to watch a video then when u drop one
Thank you so much!!
Oh man, I remember looting some rune and mystic items in the tombs in the first few weeks lol.
Well, I was one of the people who did get that Dragon Chain Body from a dust devil. Good times
The morning it was released, they didn't have the suggested combat levels, I got hosed quickly.
I remember thinking, we have to pay to repair our gear now? Fuck that 😂
I was playing during the era Barrows released in. I don't remember there ever being a no degrade barrows set..... so they must have fixed that soooo fast.😅😂
I click on the “osrs podcast” and I see you on there! You have no idea how excited I am about this, I have been watching you from day one basically and I am ecstatic to see you in a podcast style video. Absolutely my favorite content creator, keep crushing it. You’re doing an amazing job! Seriously
I had an idea that may be up your alley! Where are our favorite creators of the machinima and rsmv days? It may be a little bit indirect to what you usually do with your videos but I think it could be a popular and fun topic to spend some time on. I'm trying to remember the significance of Drmmrguy59. I think it was rsmv's that they made but I also think it could have been some skits.
Lol I remember when the OSRS servers were being constantly hit offline back in 2014ish and people were just sitting in the Dharok room on high pop worlds waiting for a dc 🤣🤣
This and slayers release a few months prior are some of my most fond memories of this game, honestly was the best years of runescape for me
Wow, Billy was lucky. When I was a kid, I didn't know about the shortcut or the boat.
I remember buying dragon chain body for 10m, managed to sell it for 35m awe that was incredible. Good Ole days
04-07 runescape absolutely prime
Seeing the addy set to get your gear back killed me
6:37 Skeleton just vibin to the music
I remember making 112M in the first months of doing barrows and spending 5 hours a day hawking my stuff in Falador Gardens world 2, I sold my first guthans spear for 11M.
hanging out in barrows tombs waiting for noobs to die so you could scavenge their items was a good time
Billy was a Pro - He only forgot the spade ONCE.
I remember when barrows came out... Pking out at green drags by edgeville and a guy in dharoks just destroying people. I was in awe lol
I'd like some consumable upgrades for barrows equipment, like the tentacle or the other things, attach it to the barrows set and get 1k charges
It's still not runecrafting though so whatever happens it's gucci
what is the bg music at 6:01 ??
many people I have played with back in the day loved the content as it was.
problem is only few will know of a generation that truly knew what a gift of gaming was.
we had nothing but time to kill back then.
You didn't mention on the dust devil section: but their drops back in 05? SUCKED. The -ONLY- worthwhile drops? A battle/mysticstaff and the body.
The droptables for most mid-level monsters got massively buffed in OSRS.
So it's not like you could even farm dust devils and make your money back in supplies...
You lost money unless you got a chain, most of the time.
And yeah, most players would never attempt Kalphite Queen due to the "immediate" drop on death mechanics back then... plus, the best strat (veracs) didn't exist until after barrows, so pre-barrows KQ? Near impossible.
suddenly im nostalgic for early rs even though i started in 2008
Ahh two ads within an add wth !! 😂😂
I’ve spent many hours at DH and Verac waiting for people to die back in the day. You’d get lucky if someone died with good gear. Made like 200k on a bad day, up to 600-800k on a good day.
been playing 20 years. dropped items didn't appear instantly, they would take around 2 minutes or so to spawn
Barrows was the hardest co tent on launch? Try going to DKS without the security of a gravestone. That was the hardest content.