2017 Warriors vs. 1996 Bulls: Who would win a 7-game series? First Take debates
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- čas přidán 11. 01. 2022
- Jay Williams, Marcus Spears and Monica McNutt debate whether the 1996 Chicago Bulls with Michael Jordan or the 2017 Golden State Warriors with Kevin Durant would win in a 7-game series.
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They asked MJ who would win one game between the two teams and his response was epic... He said Bulls would win by 2 or 3 points - when asked why so little he said it was because most of his team was in their 50's and 60's now
Wow!!!!!
cringe
@@toms5774 u cringe
Lmaooooo
And people get mad at Lebron for being arrogant…
The only question you really have to ask is what would MJ have "taken personally"?
2 deep threes from steph and Jordan is waving off double teams for the rest of the game.
He would've taken the 30 point beatings from the warriors personally, and still not been able to anything about it.
A kick in the nutsacks by Draymond
The fact that someone thinks they were better than him... That would drive him insane - Bulls in 6
@Stuffboi_Prone Dont let nostalgia and generational ego cloud your basketball takes.
Eras don't matter when you have a 7 footer pulling up from the logo.
Not to mention Iggy would help guard MJ and David West as well
@@yom0mma214you think they could guard MJ he is Kobe but better clearly never seen him play. MJ would drop 45 a night on Golden State 😂😂
@@huwdavies-tallon3305yeah and still lose by 30
He is kobe😂 don't compare him to mj😂 mj is miles away better than kobe
@@JordanisOverrated2Aint no team beating MJ’s Bulls in a 7 game series, especially a team that is soft on defense and rebounding. Bulls in 5 or 6.
Warriors don’t need to stop the bulls; they would just outscore them. KD steph and klay would all get 25-30. Bulls have no where near the offensive fire power of the warriors
Right? Warriors would be up by about 15 going into halftime, like every game. Bulls can compete for probably 2 solid games, then their soul would be crushed knowing they couldn't match that onslaught of firepower .
@@marcusg1021 yeah 96 bulls can’t go compete with these warriors team it’s like hakeem replacing luc longley for I’d go warriors in 6 or 5
They said who’s guarding Steph but the real question is who is guarding Jordan?🤔
klay
@@josephekpo2884 lol mj dropping 50 on klay
Lebron dropped 50 and lost
The only dangerous player would be Durant, Steph and Klay would probably go 3-30 from the field combined against the Bulls.
@@josephekpo2884 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The 96 Bulls Rodman missed 18 games, 97 Rodman missed 27, 98 Pippen missed 38. They won 72, 69, and 62.
@Ghost2000 this is NOT true. Lol
better bench
@@leonzaduncan2438 none at allllllll lol
@@jessicagalvan3358 96 magic had Shaq and Penny a team that won 60 games and just came off a finals appearance
@@leonzaduncan2438 lol name a team as good as the 2017 Warriors that the bulls faced
1996 bulls getting swept by 2017 warriors😭 4-0 with a minimum 40 point lead
That 96 bulls team would absolutely body any team in the history of the league🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@nomarxistspls90 no they really wouldn’t I could name 30 teams that would sweep those bulls easily😭 quit d riding
That Warriors team was legitimately unfair and ruined the league. I hate to say things like that but it was true. They were literally unbeatable in a series. 3 of the top 5 best shooters in NBA History on one team.
When people hear the word Jordan, they get in a daze and get nostalgic and lose all sense of rationality. I agree with you. No team is going to beat Steph, Klay, KD.
The 96 bulls aren't better than the 85 lakers....
@razkable😂
GOAT Jordan and his best team will lose to Splash Bros + KD in embarrassing way.
The warriors almost lost to hardens rockets. They were down 3-2 and just like we expect - cp3 gets injured and doesn’t play and playofff harden shows up. Don’t act like this warriors team was unbeatable.
Jordan laughing like he did in the last dance. 😂
Exactly with a cigar in his hands and straight chillin 😎
🤝🏽
U right can Andrew I really lock down Jordan that's funny coming from hater jay and Marcus
Stop it
Who stopping curry and KD
Jordan literally dunks on everyone when full contact was normal. Just imagine now
3 points is more than 2
@@marquscurtis3196 90 percent probability vs 40
@@Tecmo84 exactly not only that a Jordan led team is going to plummet that percentage even further...these modern cats don't know real defense bru
So what?😂 What's your point?
@@RR-fc3zm in my Funkmaster Flex voice...'AT ALL!!!'
People tend to forget that one of the players on that team did coach the '17 Warriors to a chip. I'm sure that Kerr could use his experience from his days as a Bull to find and exploit an advantage over MJ's team
still won't work
@@hittman23 LMAO
And MJ would need to punch him again. 🤣🤣🤣
@@hittman23 Y'all forget MJ lost 9 conference finals, playing against plumbers
@@LM-he7eb wonder what years
When Warriors played after 2 decades since Bulls last won their title, the game has evolved so much and Bulls have contributed more to the game that we have today. We shouldn't be having these meaningless discussions as there is no ending for this stupidity
Yeah bulls contributed their head coach lol😂
i agree that comparing different eras are just stupid, but respectfully, warriors system revolutionized modern basketball
If they really match, gsw would definitely win.
@@adhidwiyana7106nah, recency bias
@@NITESHADOWshouskeRegular season record team +Kd really legit
The fact that their comparing a juggernaut of a super team to a team that was super… says a lot about Jordan Pippin and that bulls squad.💯💯💯
Exactly and who's a better coach Phil Jackson a Steve Kerr
U also have to remember they only brought kd to that team. everyone else was drafted on the warriors so it’s kinda even
@@meganfoxandiaremarried2595 lol lol It's not even close don't believe what ESPN says.
The Bulls win. Michael Jordan is the reason why
@@trevinhickman9022 warriors win.. kd is why.
Monica's face during Jay's talking was hilarious.
Forgot she was on camera lmao 😂😂
He be talking in circles
Women shouldn’t even be allowed on sports shows
@@reeseangle9621 do something about it then.
@@reeseangle9621 and men wonder why feminism exists🤦♀️🤦♀️
This would be fun, I remember Mj & Pip talking about how difficult it was chasing Reggie around so I couldn’t imagine what they’ll say about the Splash Bros + KD… on the flip side, GS have no one that would be able to deal with Mj. Klay, Iggy, KD & Dray would all get cracks at him and would probably be the best group of defenders on the same team that he’s ever faced
Thank you Jay. Why do so many people always say that the offense wouldn't be as free moving, or something like that, but never mention that the Bulls never defended anything close to the Warriors from a shooting, spacing and movement perspective?
No on on that roster is going to be effective chasing Curry all night (please don't give me this Ron Harper nonsense). No one on that roster can really contest KD's jump shot. And then you still have Klay.
People also like to forget that that warriors team was also an elite defense. They had a 104 defensive rating in an era where its far, far harder to defend due to rule changes, increased spacing and focus on efficient offense.
Meanwhile, Harper, Rodman, Longley's defenders are cheating off of them the entire game and Kerr, Kukoc and Longley are targets on defense any time they're on the floor.
You don’t have to chase when you can switch. I can see GS pulling Rodman out the paint defensively but Curry getting a pick from Harper to Jordan….. good luck
Harper only played like half the game,
Bro what… why would there be a pick where curry gets either Jordan or harper switched onto him. They’d definitely attack tony or Rodman off screens and kill the bulls
you act like klay and kd can't run picks together too. and then steph curry is waiting for a 3 in the corner while draymond is there to make a quick decision between getting it back to klay for 3 or giving it to kd anywhere inside the 3pt line to raise over his defender and knock down a shot. Team was a mobile artillery unit with iggty coming off the bench locking up.
@@BigbearTKO Cant argue with some of these fellas. they glorify as if the 90's basketball era was filled with unbeatable players and can't accept the fact that players have been getting better as years go by
@@xoniye3573 thank you
They still talking about the 96 Bulls and Jordan 26 years later. The impact is unmatched
they'll be talking about the 2017 warriors for the next 50 years
cuz curry said that in a youtube video yesterday....smh
Completely!!
They won 72 games. The most ever until said team bein compared got 73. So yea .. 72 wins will be remembered and talked about as long as basketball exists. Cmon bro
they talk about the 96 bulls bcuz they were one of the greatest teams assembled before we saw the dominance displayed by the warriors. So its logical to compare the warriors to a team that was just as dominant as team
When he said he'd take Draymond over the worm, I choked.
Easy sweep for the Bulls in any set of rules.
The Bulls can adjust to today's rules, but GSW can't adjust to 90s rules.
Why can’t the warriors adjust? 😂🤡
@@dadillonful because I've seen many times how GSW folded against what passes off today as hard D, dimwit. They'd literally be overwhelmed by the type of D fielded by the Bulls, especially by 90s rules.
Curry still dropping 11 3s and kd still putting up 35 on pippens head
@@jeremiahrodriguez937 lol, he'd be lucky to make even one of those witj Harper or Jordan on him 😂😂😂
KD can't handle physical D, that's a fact 😂😂
yeah you dont know basketball, the wariors would decimate them
The fact that they always need to compare against the 96 Bulls prove that the 96 Bulls are the gold standard. Why not compare the Warrior team against the 2001 Laker team that went 15-1 in the playoffs? Shaq would score 100 against the Warrior team. Draymond would foul out in 5 mins.
Shaq would get played out of the game today
@@jovanfilipovic5115 but Rudy Gobert can play in today's league? lol
@@PuertoVerdean Gobert is 10 times the defender Shaq was
Just pick roll shaq and get Steph or kd or a iso with him and I bet he gets in foul trouble. Shaq aint doing nothing with his out of shape self. Out dunk these 3s!
@@SimplyOneSound so Rudy Gobert can play in today's league but shaq couldn't? Lol
This isn’t as simple as matchups defensively. The warriors were always running and switching and spacing the court more than any team ever
Triangle Defense would lock up everybody
@Eugene Oleary Nobody will lock up an offense of Durant, Curry, and Klay, which also happened to play in great harmony.
@@olearyeugene triangle defense is dead lmao, that wont work in todays playstyle
Bulls did a lot of switching
@@olearyeugeneThere was no triangle defense only offense.
Still seems like they're dismissing defense. Whenever there has been a team that got up into Steph Curry he's been rattled. We just saw Durant this year when Boston double teamed him and he was rattled. Plus they were talking about the free flowing Golden State offense but what about the triangle offense the Bulls ran to perfection where everybody touched the ball. At the end of the day defense wins championships and the best defensive team could stifle the best offense and that '95-'96 Bulls had four of the best man on man defenders ever and nobody can tell me that the Warriors would just getting their shots easily, whenever they wanted.
'Whenever there has been a team that got up into Steph Curry he's been rattled'
This narrative is so false and only applies to the few bad games he has, think to yourself how many bad series has curry had in his career? 1 maybe 2 so for the other series which hes been excellent do you think those same teams werent playing the same 'get up to him defence'. I promise if he had a bad series this finals vs the celtics people will say the exact same narrative but because he didnt nobody says that.
'We just saw Durant this year when Boston double teamed him and he was rattled. '
Kd in 2017 was pre achilles and also 4 years ago on a team where you cant double him like the celtics did so that statement doesnt make sense.
The warriors have a better overall team, better bench, system, more spacing and doesnt rely one 1 guy to get 50% of their points and also doesnt have a guy who is a problem offensively(rodman).Very easy to bring up the defence narrative when the bulls never had to worry about guarding guys past 15ft in a slower paced era dominated by bigs not guards 90% of the time,These guys are running sets 30ft out.17 warriors were the 2nd best defence with an average height of 6'7 (minus curry).
@@loosenup8152 Exactly. On every single point. I don't understand why people are so blind to these points. It's unreal how strong the nostalgia around the 90's bulls is to warp people's perception of the flat out facts.
@@loosenup8152 wow it’s honestly a breath of fresh air to see a well written & broken down analysis like this, that’s rooted in REALITY
Too many ppl overrate the 96 Bulls & the 90s era
That 17 Warriors team would sweep the Bulls
The only teams that could possibly beat the 17 warriors would be the 12-13 Heat & the 13-14 Spurs
Curry just beat the best defense in the league i remember the Celtics being called a generational defense idk what you’re talking about
The Celtics were one of the best defensive teams in the playoffs and we just saw how they got obliterated by Steph and the Warriors
I’m rollin with the dubs here man the skill level is outta this world
The greatest offensive team ever taking on a trio who are arguably the greatest defenders in their respective positions (MJ, Pippen, and Rodman). Would be a treat. I got Bulls in 6.
@Billy Bliss Haha. You’re so funny. Make us laugh again, clown. You know nothing.
@Billy Bliss Another bandwagon who started watching basketball in 2015. Thinking the Warriors would SWEEP the Bulls 😂. THAT’S embarassing. Never talk about basketball again.
Draymond said bulls are overrated so you're saying lebron's team that beat them is underated or better than Jordan and bulls lol
Even the g league in todays game would put a fight on 96bulls
Bulls in 4, Steve Kerr knows all the Warriors plays
steves shooting steve in the hotel
LMAO.
Coach steve kerr knows all the bulls players
How would young Steve Kerr in 1996 know the Warriors plays from the future in 2017? That doesn't make sense.
I do not think most people remember how good the bulls defense was that year.
Remember how bad the offense was back then
Because they allowed the teams to play defense. I am a basketball coach, so sell this crap excuse elsewhere
@@georgiosgrigoriadis6200 I mean... they could only play man to man defense and could not play zone. They allowed hand checking yes, but push offs were easily forgiven throughout multiple series in the 90s.
Warriors have a high chance of success even with 90s rules, for these reasons
1. Ball movement
The ball just never stops moving, not by dribbling but by passing it to the right person. Their ball always finds the guy who needs to shoot so the argument of locking down Durant, Curry, and Thompson using a man-to-man defense is kinda stupid.
2. Efficiency and volume of outside shooting
They are not just shooters, they are high efficiency and volume shooters.
3. There is just too much talent on this team.
exactly, and im somebody who believes jordan the goat. They're team is just stacked, they got Kd for christ sakes lmfao
Warriors is definitely winning because back then there's a rule called illegal defense.
U .. are ..preaching. ITS OVER NOW
Bulls would still win
Not saying you’re wrong but Mike, Pippen, Rodman & Harper are great defenders…
I’m sticking with Jordan
You don’t bet against Jordan. I got 96 bulls. Jordan and the defense they have is the X-Factor and for Jay William to say that Draymond Green is gonna play better than Rodman….in what universe?
Y'all must've watched the Curry GQ recently😂
GREAT DEBATE.
What rules and officiating are you using, 1996, 2017 or 2022?
I’d pick GSW for this just due to the offensive firepower but the arguments for them aren’t as absolute as they make them out, the Bulls were very fit (Rodman jumping on the treadmill after games etc.), guarded the perimeter very well and had the better coach.
I respect that. But remember the 2018 Rockets gave Golden State issues?
I think this is a great match up. Imo, I would put MJ on Curry, I think MJ could guard him better than Harper. I think the matchups favor the Bulls because nobody can stop MJ. Pippen has a better chance of making it tough on KD than the Warriors stopping MJ. It'll likely just become a outscoring match between MJ & KD. GSW's 3pt shooting is OP, but Bulls were pretty good at the time too, granted they didn't shoot as much. MJ was 42% from 3pt, Pippen 37%, Kukoc 40%, Buechler 44%, Kerr 51%, so I think they can hang when it comes to shooting too. It just really comes down to who gets stopped, MJ or KD.
But when were talking about shooting just think about curry klay and kd
Of course nobody can stop MJ but the Warriors can put either Klay, Iggy or Draymond on him. So much defensive versatililty on this squad. Even KD's length would make MJ work harder to get a shot off.
@@buckzzduran7796 Yes volume of three's is your mindset because teams shoot 50,60,70 threes per game now.
MJ would get worn out having to chase curry around and guarding him out to 30 feet. That’s not a good matchup for him at all he never had to play against a player like that in his era.
@@2robjenkins : Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf was Steph Curry before Steph Curry in 90s and played a similar game that Steph is playing today.
Reggie Miller played a Similar game to Steph in the 90s and would run around screens just like Steph. MJ contained both of those players at different times.
Steph would get blown out the water trying to defend MJ.
MJ would probably guard Steph slightly but Ron Harper who was one of the Best defenders in the NBA at that time would step in.
2017 warriors but it depends on which era they're playing in. Keep in mind the rules are different now than back then
Still will beat them
Yeah imagine the bulls playing in todays game. You know how much foul trouble they would give teams?!
@@lancewilliams2480 They would get fouled out every game and Jordan would get triple teamed
stop this arguement like era is going to drastically gonna change the warriors. Talent is talent skill is skill and the warriors dominating in any and every era
I think warriors would still win, we arent gonna act like the athletes now are not better than back then, handchecking was overrated, jordans was the greatest of his era but athletes just get better
Funny thing is Michael Jordan in this Era could score 90 points! He would average 50 a game. Curry and his crew ? U guys don't understand how good MJ was.
MJ vs Curry both in their primes, i think Curry would quit basketball after.
This is what Ryan Hollins said and everyone clowned him lmfaoo 🤣😂😂
Facts!!!
Nostalgic old heads are so stupid 🤣🤣🤣
Ryan Hollins is a goofy guy
No, that's different. Ryan seems very disrespectful back then to Jordan. If u watch the clip, u will know it. So,, no. J will is not like Ryan hollins, he is not disrespecting anybody. That's it.
@@madegm4765 niqqa everyone so soft nowadays
Jay lost me when he said he'd take Dray over Rodman and Klay over Pippen lmao
Don't forget Kukoc
Why not ? Draymond was a better offensive player than Rodman, better playmaker and passer.
@@dynamic6645 Yes, but Rodman was there to defend, and I think green would not enjoy facing him on offense.
Rodman all day. Most lockdown defender anyone has had to face.
Draymond Green over Dennis Rodman? Don't let the worm see this. Idiot talking heads.
Ppl really don't know how good Toni Kukoc was.. That dude could alone could take over a game and hit three's as accurately as Steph and Klay
Right
As accurately as prime Steph and klay is crazyy
They just murdered that take 🔥🔥
Pat bev and Lou will took a fully healthy warriors team to 6 games 😂😂😂😂 y’all really think the 96 bulls don’t have a chance huh
Until they said enough and killed the
They don't want to remember that.
And Chris P and Harden had them down in a series lol
@@acelight2698 Yeah but the Clippers didn't have Micheal Jordan.
Wrong year lol 2019’is not 2017 team
Roster
Harper Jordan pippen and Rodman were all lockdown defenders and don't forget Steve Kerr hitting 3s off the bench I'd take the bulls
Steve Kerr average 6 points for his career 🤣🤣 log off
They never guarded Durant and curry bruh. And their system of offense with them running 10 miles a game and that off ball movement with Draymond facilitating no one is stopping that team
@@Justin683 And Durant and Curry have never met a duo like Jordan and Pippen. Nice try though.
@@vengkong8344 Jordan never played a player like kd or steph. Please stop, Jordan can’t guard KD
@@jsimms6576 lmao 😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’m taking Chicago, MJ far greater than James Harden & Houston took them to a tough 7 games
That was a different year
0 ball knowledge 🤦♂️
Steve Kerr already answered, and he picked 96 Bulls over his 17 GSW.
No way Dre can keeps up with Rodman. No chance. And if they play in today's rules no adjusting needed, Jordan's lanes are wide open.
The lanes are as open as they are today because there are shooters all over the floor and defenders are spread further apart. Other than Kerr there's nobody really on the Bulls I'd want shooting the 3 ball and up against a team defense the Bulls would be screwed offensively with Rodman on the floor who can't really do much scoring outside of 5 feet there's no real reason with a defensive anchor like McGee protecting the rim you can't just play the defense they played on Rondo before he added a better 3 to his game and just sag off him and do a soft double team on someone else. I'd imagine they'd have Klay and Draymond double team Jordan almost the whole time since it'd be hard to punish them for leaving Rodman open.
@@jamespuso1627 do you really think they would leave Pip, or Harper, kukoc open for a 3?so we are only talking about Rodman. They ran the triangle for space not hard to get him out of there
@@Tecmo84 Well, if we're talking about the double team and leave a man open bit yes we're only talking about Rodman. As for leaving the rest open for 3s, that's kinda where it gets tricky because it depends again on if this hypothetical match up is happening in 1997 or 2017. I'm pretty sure 1997 was the last of those few years they shortened the 3 point line to up scoring in games. Pippen, Kukoc and Harper were 32%, 33% and 29% career 3 point shooters and most 3s back then were pretty wide open, so with a normal size 3 point line generally speaking yes I'm fairly comfortable sagging off them to close driving lanes if I'm coaching the team defending them. With the shortened 3 point line maybe less so since all 3 were shooting well beyond their career averages in '97 but the line being shorter also means less spread and space to cover.
@@jamespuso1627 Who is guarding Jordan in the post? The lanes don't have to be open.
@@vitezjura If I'm Steve Kerr of 2017 I'm gonna throw a double team of Klay and Draymond at him at first. If he's catching it in the high post off ball I have Klay trying to keep him out of his spot and deny him the ball and Draymond on him when he probably catches it where he wants anyway to keep him from getting closer, maybe try bringing real heat and have Klay try to get him to pick the dribble up and keep him from getting his fade off clean. He's the GOAT so even against that kinda heat he probably drops an efficient 24-25 but if I'm the Warriors keeping him from exploding for a 40 piece is probably enough for the W with the offensive firepower they have.
They talking like jordan won’t score 50 in this soft era 😂 have they seen how piston chopped down jordan every time he goes inside but still score 30, imagine how he will do today 50 is easy for him
The argument is not about how much is Jordan dropping pal… Curry, Klay and KD can combine for 80.. which still doesn’t mean they win, but yeah… go ahead and drop 50, all others still have to combine for at least 60/70 if you wanna beat these warriors
Plus, physicality won’t matter, draymond lives off it.. and what you gon do when a 7 footer pulls up in yo face? Tackle him mid air?
And Harper has to much smoke in his lungs to chase Curry all game 😂
@@carlospeixoto833 ikr
Ik Michael Jordan is the goat and the bulls were amazing. But cmon man the warriors got top 5 scorer of all time, the greatest shooter of all time, the second/third greatest shooter of all time, a dpoy, and probably top 5 greatest role player I’ve ever seen (2015 fmvp) all in one team. The pacers take bulls to 7 games with 1 shooter but this 2017 warriors team got like 3-4 of them. And don’t act like Klay won’t do anything to Jordan, Klay is known for his defense. It’s not even close warriors in 5
Facts the triangle offense and the Bulls defense is key here. Remember the Bulls were #1 in scoring and defense.
Yea in a plumber infested era
@dadillonful Are you high fool, you must be young because thus ain't no Bob Koozie Era Ball
I think the bulls would win in 6 maybe in 7 the Chicago defence would be to much for the warriors and Michael Jordan would limit Steph Curry's impact on the game
What? The bulls defense have never seen elite perimeter shooting like the warriors
@@trydn1049 Bulls has MJ one time best defender of the league, and Rodman three times best defender of the league... And Pippen didn't win another one cuz MJ and Rodman were better defenders. Who`s gonna stop Jordan? If Rodman stopped Shaq, And challenged Jordan..., he could stop Durant...
@@trydn1049 doesn't matter. Jordan, Pippen and Harper could guard steph, klay, and KD all 94 feet for the entire game. I guess this comes down to what era are they playing in. 90s rules or 2010s?
@@mr.palabras9768 Lol, you obviously don't grasp the fundamentals of basketball. Rodman couldn't stop KD. He literally doesn't possess the physical tools to do so.
He may be strong enough to annoy a post-up player like Shaq, and quick enough to bother Jordan, but he's just physically not even tall enough to contest jumpers from KD. It's a pretty regular problem for most players in the league.
@@randumo24 Dude, you've just said he's strong enough to guard Shaq, and fast enough to guard Jordan, period.
The 2017 Warriors team is literally perfect. This shouldn't be a debate.
Exactly every one is talking about how the Bulls never went to 7 games finals……the 2017 Warriors never even went to 6 games the entire playoffs💀
@@Centurylamar88against whoo
The only team that can even challenge the 2017 warriors is the 1985 lakers with prime magic kareem worthy scott cooper with mcadoo mcgee rambis kupchak spriggs lester
@@tyronelorenzovalentio3414the 96 bulls never faced anyone as good as the 2017 cavs
@@razkableThe Magic with Shaq & Penny were 60-22 that year, they could compete with the 2017 Cavs, so could the Sonics that year who were 64-18.
Nobody in NBA history has better conditioning than Dennis Rodman
I'd put money on LeBron James and Ray Allen before betting on Dennis Rodman
@@hmrhuang Why Ray Allen?
That's one person. The entire Warriors team was running. The game is way faster and they still played defense.
After this year's playoffs, we saw how KD handled physicality(today's standards) against the Celtics. I doubt he'd be better in a more physical series.
Well the issue is he can pass to either another Elite Score or Elite Shooter lol.
He didn't have Steph or Klay to pass to or Green to help. Completely different team and system. Stay relevant my G.
this statement is so true... this young 'un think everybody moves like MJ because everything is so loose... no defense at all... but once you put on the pressure and physicality these cupcakes warriors would crumble like a cookie.
LMAO, they were doubling KD. Imagine if KD had steph klay and andre to pass? what happens then?
@@youtubeisannoying3907 He literally had Kyrie and Seth+Patty (both 40%+ 3pter) to pass to, and the outcome was laughable. On the flip side Rodman, MJ, Scottie, 6ft6 Ron Harper is not the same as Tatum + 6ft3 Marcus Smart. Look i am not saying its not close, it's gonna be a 7 game fight and can go either way but i haven't seen enough from the warriors to get the same level of confidence as you as if the warriors would sweep the bulls
Monica knows ball 🔥 the Warriors may be the greatest offensive lineup we’ve seen, but the Bulls were the greatest offensive and defensive team we’ve ever seen..
You're not stopping Jordan from getting to the paint at will the time and era they played and will work both ways
You not stopping Steph, Klay, and Durant from getting a shot off
@@jonesm313 klay and curry would get clamped by Jordan and pippen only person to worry about is KD
@@yeahyeahyeahwhat6271 Yea you could think that
@@jonesm313 rockets had them beat the following year
@@yeahyeahyeahwhat6271 did you know ball handling wasn’t as great wen Jordan played curry would cross mj too many times
"I'll take Dreymond green going against the likes of Dennis Rodman"
Uhhh no, if Dennis Rodman can shut down Shaq in his prime, what do you think he's going to do against that green guy?
proves you have no bball iq. You gonna try to stop Draymond like shaq? This dude said Dennis Rodman gonna stop Dray? What does that do? Lmao. Stop him from scoring 10pts. Stop him from playing Def?
@@calvinvang4749 Draymond Green is essentially their PG a good portion of the game. He's their leader and their defensive anchor. Look what happens when he got taken out of the series vs the Cavs. Warriors blew a 3-1 lead.
Rodman was far better than Dray is.
Draymond has bench player numbers...........overrated.
draymond green would not stand a chance against Dennis Rodman or Charles Barkley
Didn't P.J Tucker play 90's/00's level of physical defense on KD in last year's playoffs??? KD still averaged 35-10-5 on 50%fg & 35%3pt. Yeah Scottie, MJ & Rodman are better defenders than PJ but I don't think they'd make that significant of a difference. Scottie is longer but not as strong as PJ.
"Scottie is longer but not as strong as PJ".... OMG I didn't read that, no way....
@@ReidoFutebol98 P.J is 6'5" 245 pounds, Scottie is 6'7'" 220. So yeah you read it.
@@billpap.9669 Look at Scottie defensive highlights and then PJ and say that he's weaker again. And look at Scottie wingspan too, he definitely can contest KD shots and he's the best defensive SF ever.
It depends on which rules will imply? will it be the 96 rules or the 2k rules eventually both rules conquer bulls but will the warriors be ready for the physicality of the 90's rules of course this is a WHAT IF?
Hypotheticals are always fun, and defensively the Bulls match up with the Warriors much better than people think. Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman all made 1st team all defense that year and Ron Harper was no slouch either. And all 4 of those guys were between 6'6" and 6'8". The ultimate switchable defense before it became cool.
Let's also not forget that the "most talented team ever assembled" was on their way to being bounced in the western finals a year later had it not been for a Chris Paul injury and 27 consecutive missed 3 pointers so not like they were utterly unbeatable.
With that said I still think it would be a toss up 7 game series and whoever imposes their style the most consistently would win. If the Warriors can push the pace then they probably win. If the Bulls control the tempo and slow it down like the Rockets did to the Warriors in 2018 then the Bulls probably win.
What about the death lineup when the Warriors go small though? Luc Longley vs Draymond? Bruh…
They made it against what tho
@@astheskylarksings finally someone who knows that they are saying 🙏🏼
Nobody wants to talk about that rockets team owning GS
Reggie Miller did very well running off screens vs Bulls, replace him with two better shooters Steph/Klay and it's overkill.
Im a super fan of Splash Bros and the Warriors but i still remember the lockdown defense of that Bulls team plus they have the true G.O.A.T. so i got to give it to the Bulls '96...
Respect to you for being a fair an object basketball fan and not a toxic Bronsexual i like not dealing with them for once. I agree and I think this would have been MJs first 7 game Finals series. I take Bulls in 7.
@@114D yeah i wont be surprised if Bulls will be down 0-2 initially but once they figured it out itll be 4 straight so Bulls in 6 😁
Facts that bulls team had like 20+ 1st team all defense selections 4 defensive player of the year selections… they would affect their shooting efficency
@@airprentice23 plus the way they bumped the players in the 90s and not even calling a foul that would certainly affect steph but i still love steph hes the G.S.H.O.A.T.
Delusional
Offense sells tickets, defense wins titles. The Bulls had 3 players that would neutralize if not shut down what GS would do on offense. Jordan, Pip, and Rodman could guard any of GS players. I'm putting Pip on Steph. Rodman on KD. Jordan on Klay. Kukoc on Draymond. Harper on Iggy. None of them on GS could guard Jordan.
Pippen, Rodman, and Jordan can't stop Durant either. Pip/Jordan/Rodman/Harper definitely can contest Curry and Klay on an iso play, but they don't play those one-on one games. Klay and Curry are the best ever when it comes to scoring on ball movement and constant off ball movement.
ESPN tries so hard to discredit the 96 Bulls.
Jay and Spears always say Lebron is their GOAT, so why would they give any love to a team that swept Lebron's teams in the finals lol? That's why these arguments are never dun bcuz everyone has a biased opinion..
Because they're part of the reason why his GOAT argument actually becomes stronger.
They are heater’s
The warriors was a great team,I really like that team,bot In the end of the day 90% of people know the bulls are the best team ever
@Billy Bliss facts folks be weirdos how tf so u stop the warriors without them stopping themselves
I'm 42. I watched both teams play. I love Jordan as much as anyone, but the Warriors had the 3 greatest shooters in nba history on a single team. The most unfair team ever constructed. They would destroy the bulls. I'm not going to be a Jordan stan. The bulls never had to face a team with more then 2 all stars let alone 4 all stars in their prime.
Nice take,bro u know basketball
@@brooklynkenzie3104 truly
So, Are the Harden-CP3-Capela-PJ Tucker Rockets underrated? They took to 7, and CP3 was out for important moments
Nah…Bulls played better teams than these Warriors.
@@dougiet.2112 That was the 2018 warriors and the 2017 warriors were way better.
1991-1998, Bulls with Jordan won 24/25 playoff series. The only one lost was to Shaq/Penny Magic in 1995, when Jordan just come back from basketball. I don’t know who will wins, I don’t know if 9 times all defense Jordan can stop Curry, or Pippen/Rodman can stop Klay/Duran, I also don’t know if anybody in Warriors can stop Jordan, a person that scored avg 40+ points many playoff series.
Warriors easily. I have watched both. You aint running 10 miles a game every single game and shooting as good as the Warriors with Steph, KD and Klay.
The Bulls gonna be dealing in 2 pointers and the Warriors in 3. Theyll have the off game but its highly unlikely that they lose 3 out of 7.
You have obviously never watched the bulls play nor the 90s basketball
They would foul out defending mj at the rim lol
@@OK-ce8cn The Warriors don't foul.
@Brian Zhu Chris Paul’s Houston rockets took the warriors to game 7, maybe if Jordan had even a fraction of James hardens work ethic and mindset they would stand a chance but unfortunately he doesn’t, 16-17 Houston rockets 2nd greatest NBA team of all time. Look how retarded you all look
The 3 point shot changes everything.. One team would be playing Chess and the other checkers..
This was one of the better debates I've seen on first take. Perfect.
And Jay is absolutely correct 100%. People are super mad about it. Bc mj could never lose is what they been fed.
And SAS not being there has a lot to do with it.
It wasnt a debate...they all agreed.
@@martelljhixson umm no , the woman basketball player didn't (I'm sorry I forgot her name)
@@hiteshs6211 yeah that lady Def gave the vibe that she was a jordanite. But she really couldn't debate the clear cut facts that that Warriors team was ridiculously absurd good, even for Jordan to overcome.
The Bulls had a hard time guarding Reggie. Now times that by 3, one is 6'11." Whew!
You do know that was 98 Bulls right, not 96
One is actually “6’12”
Reggie never beat them, I do wins and rings, all this and that is for nothing.
They never had a hard time. Stop making up stuff
Having a hard time and beating are two different things.
Bulls would absolutely wipe the floor with them.
I'm going to look at this in a completely different way. It matters more on the coaching and adaption. The warriors strength was their offense and the main thing keeping bulls in the argument is their defense. If Pippen and Rodman can figure out the pick and roll, and on offense if they move the ball enough, getting Steph to defend maybe a bigger guy they can win. And it's not like the Bulls were scrubs at offense
It not like the warriors were scrub on defense
1st in Offense and Defense and 1st in Net rating (all time) at a slower pace.
LAWL
You shouldn't look out for MJ, it's Pip and Kukoc that's going to cause you matchup problems
Bro the Warriors were really good on defense too people forget that
Did he say he would take Drammond over Rodman? LMFAO does he not know Rodman is the Greatest defender and Rebounder of all time ? And does he know he shut down as Stephen a call him the most dominant force in NBA history Shaq? Lol
FACTS 💯
Yup,don't know what is funnier and dumber of those statements, Drummond over worm or Iggy over kukoč 😂😂😂
Rodman had crazy guy strength
@@aljosaerceg1102 are you high? Iggy is miles better than kukoc. Better defense, passing, scoring efficiency, rebounding, IQ, etc. He's basically better in every way. He has twice the career win shares Kukoc has. Somebody doesn't know basketball.
Jay smoking some weed before this.He thinks highly of Mr Triple Single!Lol!!
I think the bulls would win. their defense is tailor made to beat the warriors. the real question in my opinion is the 2001 lakers vs the 1996 bulls.
La 2001 vs chicago 96’ …. Man im taking bulls in 6
@@youngcactusjack 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Look At Allen iverson stats against the bulls as a rookie Steph would have destroyed them let alone KD
Um Well Ima Say Da 1996 Chicago Bulls Win In 7 Games Against Da 2017 Golden State Warriors In A Very Close Game By Only 2 Or 3 Points Dats Right I Said It Da 96 Bulls Would Only Beat Da 17 Warriors In 7 Games By 2 Or 3 Points But For Da 2001 Los Angeles Lakers Us Da 1996 Chicago Bulls Would Easily Taken Dem Out In Under 4 Games No Bap All Of Dem By 30 Points💁🏽♂️🤷🏾♂️💯
@@nasirmills101 Capping Like A Mf😒🤦🏽♂️💁🏽♂️🤷🏾♂️💯
People not even factoring in the Jordan effect. He consistently beats his man off the dribble go into the body of the best big and force the refs to blow the whistle. We all know he is king of acrobatic shots. So i can imagine MJ at halftime having 25 pts with 10 of 12 from free throws and Draymond and KD sitting on the bench early 2nd quarter with 3 fouls each.
He said they can adapt to the physical play but you act like the bulls couldn’t adapt
The James Harden Houston Rockets team took that team 7 games. How in the heck they supposed to beat the Bull's. Y'all tripping! They beat the same team in the finals. The league was watered down with garbage teams then. San Antonio probably would've beat them if Kawhi didn't get hurt. You can't name a great team they beat.
Not the same thing because of 3 pointers the bulls don’t have shooters like that not even close to kd, curry, and klay. The mid range shots from mj aren’t saving the bulls
@@jj10176 Well they did have the most accurate three-point shooter ever. But seriously, Jordan - and Pippen - would torch the Warriors, who would have no defensive answer to that. It would be a good match
@@jkingdom3 they aren’t beating the gsw Kerr doesn’t take as many as klay, curry or kd. Not to mention offensively kd and curry are a better offensive duo then mj and pippen. The gsw were known for blowing teams out by halftime
Lol Bulls need 7 game just to beat one great shooter reggie miller
@@anzai5552 Very conveniently forgetting the repeat threepeat... that was the only game 7 they faced in their 6-0 run. Bound to have the odd one out
We’ve all witnessed Durant and Curry choke on the big stage before both giving up 3-1 leads in the playoffs. The 96 Bulls had the greatest defense in NBA history. Give me the Mentally tough great defense in the Bulls in 7.
Pippen or rodman on durant. You know how much of a headache rodman is to begin with , ask shaq.
@Ghost2000 sorry they were just that good. You talkin road to the finals, or finals opponents? Because the east was the beast in the 90s, like how the west is now.
The Bulls didn't face real competition you gotta be trolling. GHOST 2000 is not for real no way😂😂😂
@Ghost2000 yup you’re a clown
Mentally tough wouldn't even be an issue. The 3 line was closer in the 90s. The game would have been 20 times easier for them lolol. 3s would be like free throws. Warriors in 6
Bulls had better depth, better coaching, better conditioning, better toughness, better defense, better chemistry. The warriors just have better shooting.
Did you guys know that the Bulls in 95-96 lost three games by one point. If they win those games they go 75 - 7.
I am sick of hearing players today can’t play in that era …, players today are higher stronger and faster for the most part I am sure they can adapt …, it’s not there fault the rules have changed
They may be higher lol and have access to better technology in their gear and sneakers but talent wise it’s unfair to gauge given all the advantages of today. Back then salaries were smaller and no one had access to top tier chefs, trainees, massager therapist, healing equipment etc. All they got back then was Gatorade and ice packs.
Exactly, Jay Williams was on the money the whole segment
@Sanyo Jean 😂😂 *bigger my bad …, they say Steph is small the guy is 6’3” and and put on some muscle that’s above average for a Pg
Curry is higher, stronger and faster than who?
@@PHRESHIDENT lol
I love how everyone acts like physicality would even matter. Dude, I love the showtime Lakers, but they weren't exactly "physical". They just didn't get punked, but they weren't exactly trying to be more physical than their competition. They tried to outrun them. That's kind of how that Warriors team functions.
Plus let's stop the notion that today's players don't have a school yard street ball switch they could turn on if things got physical. You only think they're soft because that's how the game is officiated nowadays, not because the players just have gotten softer. They're grown men, they will respond.
THANK YOU !!!! 🙏🏾
Showtime Lakers played in the 80s. In the 90s the game changed. The Bulls played hard nosed D every possession. I love Steph Curry he's my favorite player today but I've seen what happens when he's played physical. Its thrown him out the game many times
And look what happened to the Lakers against Jordan and the bulls in the finals
@@grinchoi1 And even then him being ineffective he's still putting up decent numbers. Additionally, having KD alleviates how tough they can play him.
Plus the 80s was just as tough as the 90s, if not tougher in terms of physicality .
@@Jkev24 basketball is a physical sports by Nature the bulls defense would have no affect against the warriors because Allen Iverson only 6'0 ft 100 pounds I didn't see that defense have any affect against him or Damon stoudemire or any player who had a handle and athleticism please stop the cap
MJ's Bulls will win all day! No doubt!
I’m sure by looking at what warriors had accomplished, all the commentators who favored the warriors ‘17 to win over bulls ‘96, had regretted what they said. What they had forgotten to mention was the bulls will adapt to any situations and knowing Jordan’s competitiveness, he would have dissected the warriors and dissolved them mentally and emotionally! And with Phil Jackson coaching the team, they will create a game plan that will suffocate warriors offense! But to close the argument, unlike bulls! They win the championship, warriors can not close! The reality is warriors have talents, but bulls have the heart and mental toughness and superior talents that none of todays team can ever possessed! If you would rank any players from warrior none of them can be even in the top 30 of all times! But jordan can arguably the GOAT! Pippen, is even better than any players in the warriors, overall! Then you have Rodman, arguably, greatness defender!
Two MVP type players and another Reggie Miller type player in Klay is going to overcome any heart one player has. Bulls lost to the Pistons and needed 6 games to beat the Sonics and Utah in the Finals and that Warriors team is stacked.
@@imoretull the bulls never went to game 6 IN THE FINALS. The warriors didn’t even win the chip after winning 73 game. The warriors literally would be into the bulls perimeter defense, best of all time. So no the warriors are going to struggle. Add Rodman Messing with head and people forgot the bulls have Steve Kerr and kukoc hitting 3s too. Not mention in the bulls 72 win season they had 3 players (Kerr, kukoc and Jordan) over 40%+ shooting 3s, less than 4% from curry’s 45. Let’s break it down on who wins what position. pG warriors+. SG bulls++ SF tie PF bulls C bulls bench bulls coach bulls Bulls all day and twice on Sundays
@@Thorcat001 they needed 7 to beat mark jackson & reggie miller, u don’t think kd,steph, draymond, klay are better than them?
@@wills.9422 and the warriors lost in the finals to the mavs in 5. Then to lebrons cavs. You don’t think the bulls are better than them?
@@Thorcat001 u sound slow bro. You acting like LBJ isn’t a 🐐lol
The reason why NBA teams are able to shoot so many 3's in today's NBA is because there is no more hand checking which slowed the game down back in the 80's and 90's.
Stop being delusional. There is a larger quantity of better shooters in today's game vs 80s and 90s.
Are u an idiot or just ignorant
Huge Bulls/Jordan fan, but the answer is yes, the Warriors could have beaten the Bulls. The rules are important, but Golden State was a stacked team that was built in a way that didn't exist in the 90s. Teams didn't or couldn't stack the way they do now.
My man know ball.
@UCQAbyukGjhbF09EuBCRDI_Q nobody had the two greatest shooters ever, top 3 scorer of all time and when of the top defensive players in the league lol. Warriors in 6
Lol na
Completely ignoring defense I see. Best defensive team of all time versus best offensive team of all time. I'm taking the defense because defense usually wins in that matchup.
Fake bulls mj fan that’s what you are just to be honest. Why people make this comment so dumb and so obvious😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
It's really laughable how 90's defense is ignored. First and foremost, the players back in the 90's were bigger..that's right, bigger than most of the players today. Look at the difference in their body types. My point is, if they're playing by 90's rules, Bulls will simply wear those guys down PHYSICALLY and MENTALLY. I mean, guys skip games today not because they're injured but because they want to "rest", lmao. Give me a break.
I think it would have been hard for GSW to guard MJ but it would have been hard to defend the whole GSW team. Too much movement and also the bench is very important yeah the 5 starters can matchup but on the bench this is a whole different history. Bulls were winning games with 90 pts, GSW were 90pts in the 3rd quarter that shows the defence in Bulls era and offence in GSW era. But we will never know maybe MJ would have scored 60 every game or maybe KD would have been unguardable to any player in the Bulls team.
Kd is soft s-a-w-f-t the only era KD would maybe punk any bull is this one and KD just got punked by Tatum so.....m
Golden had a mega team... Steven ..durant and the other guy i cant pronounce.... They come off from as one of the top players in the nba.....3 of the best in 1 team .....jordan didnt had a mega team....with megastar line up same players won it 6 times in game 6 ......so yeah it will difficult but curry will and the warriors will nor score over 100 point a game with the bulls.... That's a fact
So, the scores in the 90s are actually a bit misleading. It wasn't only a matter of better defense (tbh, I'm not convinced any part of it was due to better defense).
1) the pace was slower (~92 possessions per game in 1996 vs ~97 in 2017).
2) Offenses are far more efficient now that they emphasize 3s, shots at the rim and FTs.
3) Defense is much harder to play now do to the amount of space all the extra shooting creates.
The only problem they would have is MJ and Rodman besides that GSW
In 6
Mj scoring 60 every game? 😂😂😂
Bulls in six or seven in any era, their ability to switch on defense they can play any style offense fast break or methodical half court offense not turning the ball over and the greatest closer ever I’m taking Bulls in hard fought series
Illegal defense rules curry and KD will have a field day….
Good luck against a zone defense after illegal defense taken away. Jordan would be fine but what will rodman and pippin do with a packed paint.
you're overestimating the bulls if you think they can properly guard the 2016-2017 warriors with KD, Steph, and Klay. The only way you beat that team is by shooting them out the gym. It took one of the greatest shooting performances in Finals history for the Cavs to take a game from them. it was an outlier and that was the only game the warriors lost the entire playoffs. there is too much scoring talent on that team, along with curry running around the court which will scramble their defense and generate open looks for KD and Klay. And they have elite defenders in Klay, Draymond, and Iggy. They will be able to limit, the rest of the bulls squad, minus jordan, and drop 120+ a night pretty easily. It's just too much to deal with and it doesn't really matter what you do defensively, you just pray that your team is hot and can score like 130+.
@@yslj5983 - *IT TOOK THE REFS TO GIVE STEPH SOME FAKE TECHNICALS AND GAVE QUEEN PUSSBRON SOME SUCKY SUCKY* = Get your FACTS "straight" before you blurt out b s .
@@cobrakainevereverdies6940 i see a bandwagon gs fan here
As good as dub nation is, the Bulls would have taken them out if they were playing in the 90's.
warriors have too much fire power idk
Warriors have too many weapons it doesn’t matter what era they play in
Why ? Zones were illegal back then, so was handchecking and the 3 point line was shortened from 1994 to 1997, Warriors would demolish those Bulls
@@dynamic6645 they could foul harder
Mj is the key factor. Theyre not stopping him and rodman would take durant out of the game
It's not about the rules/officiating. It's play style. If you take them from 1996 and just have them play vs '17 Warriors, the Bulls will lose by a minimum of 30pts. It's going to be a sweep as well. The Warriors will humiliate the Bulls every night. I think any team that made it to the playoffs the past 3 years will DOMINATE the Bulls in every series. That is if you just make them play vs one another right away.
But if you let the Bulls adjust first to modern play style, training, conditioning, get them familiar with the thought of centers moving fast and taking 3s, let them know and adjust to seeing 7 footers taking step back 3s or point guards taking 3s from half court, if you let the Bulls train and prepare and adjust (even their bodies) to the modern style, I'd say it's Bulls in 5.
Man the Bulls!! That year the Bulls was probably the best DEFENSIVE team ever!! Mj was all defense and MVP and scoring. Pippen and Rodman all defense. Rodman averaging 17 rebounds a game. He would be all in Draymond's head
Here’s the number 1 thing you forgot Jordan who tf is stopping him🤔🤣 nobody
Right!!! I don't think the Warriors could get past the Orlando team that the Bulls swept
Who was able to stop lebron? Nobody. Who won the chip? The Warriors.
Lebron aint MJ lol
Oh god Rodman would murder green under the rim
Question so are we saying that the 90s teams wouldnt adapt to the faster pace game now, then you cant say that teams today would adjust to hard defence then
Adapting to a tough physical era is easier than changing the way you play basketball as a whole team for world class athlethes. All of these guys are strong and athlethic in their own rights
Media hype and nonsense. You dont dismiss the bulls and what they had. The defensive switching alone between Harper, Jordan, pippen and Rodman.. If they ran kukoc at the 5.. Nah man. The warriors would have to hit well over 40% from 3 over the entire series to keep it close. Bulls in 5
It’s all on rebounds. Dennis did it!
Forget the hand checking, hard fouls and all that...the game is played much faster now with more possessions now. Give Michael Jordan more possessions and he'll average 40pts on 50% shooting. Good luck stopping him.
Now imagine that now in today's era with the refs being more strict on hand checking
Better defenders to wear him down and better offensive players to wear him down. If Kobe is a more talented version of mj and is barely top 10 all time you got me lmao
@@josephrush8078 who said Kobe is a more talented version of MJ? And by your own logic that would mean MJ is barely a top 10 player all time. Is that what you are saying?
Who are these better defenders and offensive players?
@@karimw.9954 it’s widely known Kobe is the most talented player to potential ever touch the court. Don’t tell me you seriously don’t know that.
@@karimw.9954 offensively mj isn’t doing any better then James harden. And Kobe is barely top 10 if u seriously thought he was top 3-4 then your not educated by influenced
I cant see how the Bulls would be able to handle the pace and versatility of the 17 Warriors..
The Bulls had incredible defense at the time, however, a lot of the toughness came from the interior.
The Warriors had 4 starters who could space the floor and were legitimate threats from the perimeter. Other than Jordan, Pippen and Harper, I cant see any of the other Bulls players defending effectively from the perimeter. I think Golden State would be able to create too many opportunities and the Bulls would end up playing a huge game of wack-a-mole on defense.
Honestly, this is like a Tesla vs a muscle car.. both game changers in their eras but one is the clear cut better performer because the parts that make the whole are more sophisticated
Jordan's defense is very overrated, he never guarded a 6'3" PG who dribbles the ball and shoots it the way Curry does 👌🏻
You also forgot Rodman who is an elite post defender and rebounder
5 Draymond can shoot of left open, you sink he shoots his garbage floater or pulls a 3 you hedge to hard he diving to the rim, you pull off klay or iggy that’s an easy 3, you help on kd post up off ball for Steph or klay easy money
Dude the Toronto raptors shut Steph down in 2019 what would jordan do
@@otisyoungblood they shutdown who ??? He scored 50 on a box and 1 what are you talking about he avg 30.5 that whole series?
@@dynamic6645 Overrated?I mean yes, jordan will have a hard time guarding curry but his defense isn't overrated. He won the Dpoy during 87-88 and mvp at the same time. Isn't Magic Jhonson was playing at that year? MJ is 3rd in steals leader and 9x all team defense. Is that overrated?
Finally someone brought up "creating movement" and the 2nd unit for each team. They know basketball. Warriors in 6 and I'm a Jordan fan.
After a hardcore night with Rodman, Draymond won't be able to walk.
The bulls mind games would have played a part, you know jordan is getting in some peoples heads, steph probably will choke, I personally will take rodman over draymond as a pure defender..nah im taking the bulls…warriors minus KD still couldn’t seal the deal against cavs, so with them core players still there you know they got fragile mindset issues
He said minus kd 💀
U right because Curry doesn't play that well in the finals
remember when Pippen refused to check in the closing seconds of a playoff game cuz he didnt get the last shot
Giving the bulls 2 games on this warriors team is really friendly. Steph and Durant are the most efficient high volume scorers god created. It took a historically great offensive game from the cavs with Lebron, Kyrie, and love in order to take one game off them in the playoffs.
Rockets with an injuried cp3 took the 7 games, they got zero chance against the bulls, stop it.
The Rockets won 3
@@guilhermevieira6010 exactly
a@@guilhermevieira6010 but that was another season
@@guilhermevieira6010 Iguodala was injured most of the series
the golden state warriors are the only team I saw that have players that can score from anywhere on basketball court. it is like video games
They wouldn't do that against the Bulls defense
Didn't the Warriors almost lose to the Rockets that same year in seven games and the only reason why some people say they wont is cuz Chris Paul got hurt...yeah I'm taking Chicago