Meet The 500HP LS3-Powered Porsche 944 Turbo From The Underground.
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Hey guys! Today on the show we're driving an LS3-powered Porsche 944 Turbo on the street! This has got to be one of the more insane engine swapped cars i've ever driven, combining the essence of a brutal American muscle car with the classic shape, style and feel of a German sports car. This 994 Turbo build retains the factory 5-speed transaxle which is mounted in the rear of the vehicle for close to 50/50 weight distribution, but has no issue sending all 500 horses to the rear wheels if you'd like a bit of smoke as a side dish. Whichever way you decide to look at this creation, the 944 has more than earned its place in automotive history and that is absolutely undeniable. ENJOY!!
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I usually don't think twice about swaps but this one is perfect. I like the fact that the weight of the LS3 is very similar to the stock engine - makes the build even better. 80s Porsches are getting old and need a refresh with more power. Perfect daily and track car. I'm thinking of doing this myself and currently shopping for a 944 with no rust. Thanks for the video.
944s will seldom have rust because Porsche galvanized them and unless someone grinds through the galvanizing down to bare metal you shouldn't have any rust come up. You're going to need a turbo model because the transaxle is stronger, unless you can have a non-turbo trans built stronger or buy a beefy one.
@@manstersr I bought a 944 NA with a complete 951 swap. Everything was swapped by Porsche master tech - engine, trans, suspension, etc. So far the power is nice and focusing on restoring the paint, cleaning the engine bay and interior.
No bro, look up the 944 07k turbo swap. Lighter weight, way more room in engine bay, inline 5 sounds amazing and can push out 500hp!
@@Oncewaslostbutnowimsaved I joined the Facebook group for 07K swaps, and bought a 1989 944 Turbo. Thanks, I'll look into it further if the time comes! :)
@ModuSublime I have 2 matching 1985 944s. Keeping 1 stock and using the other aa my parts car. Eventually I'm going to just strip everything down and have the parts on a shelf then I will use the rolling chassis one for a 07k swap
Small modern tweak - engine swaps are everything but not small tweaks goddammit.
Lol
lmao
I think he was joking.
Also, “might” be better. Definitely better
Facts
This is one crazy 944! Sounds raw and looks elegant at the same time, the sound of the engine is music to the ears, thank you for reviewing this beauty!
I owned a new 1986 944 Turbo and sold it to buy a new 1988 BMW E30 M3 - both were amazing cars and a joy to drive, but very different experiences. I drove the M3 for 28,000 miles and sold it for more than I paid for it, thought I was a genius as a result, and bought a 1989 944 Turbo S - it took everything I loved about the 1986 and turned it up to 11. What a privilege to have owned these legends and icons of the era. My daily driver now is a 2023 Tesla Model 3 Performance, and I have a 2013 Scion FR-S as a dedicated track car. Even at 56, I’m still a kid and car junkie at heart!
Had a 944 for my first car in high school! Such a fun car.. just recently picked up a 87 944 turbo a couple year back with only 98k original miles. I will have it to the end!
Just found an 83 with a LS swap already in it. Might buy it next week 👀
I had a white on white ‘86 944 with factory Fuchs wheels back in the early 90’s. Selling it is one of my greatest automotive regrets. Everything you like about this car is what I liked about that one: balance, looks, gearing, handling, comfort, etc. hard to imagine with 500hp. I’d love to have that experience. Thanks for sharing!
I've driven three 944's after doing timing belts on them. They are great cars stock, but as someone who knows them and the LS platform? This is golden. Which adapter kit did they use?
Did you ever find out?
@@Martin944turbocheck out Renegade in Las Vegas. They do V8 swaps for Porsche's
Check out Renegade in Las Vegas, they do LS swaps in Porsches. They have YT also
@@boywonderrr71 Yeah, that's where I first heard of it. I think I'd want one of the 914 conversions over the 944 if they had the same rust protection on the body.
Google is your friend, many kits out there ... also for K-swap turbos.
My dude here said that an engine swab is a small tweaks 😂
The Sport seats were an option on the 944 turbo as well, and yes, they were also optional equipment on the 911. Same exact seats.
They were a option on the 944 na as well
I liked the standard seats better because the sport seats make getting in and out of the car painful.
This car looks like a whole pile of fun! Having owned and driven an 86’ 944 turbo I can fully appreciate the reliability and power of the LS. However, the balance and the way the power is delivered relative to the way the chassis acts with the 2.5 turbo is either a very well researched combination or a wonderful mistake. Many hours spent under the hood replacing onion skin gaskets, and strange oil/coolant heat exchangers but the end result was one of the best driving cars (in my opinion) I’ve ever driven. This includes many generations of M3’s, Supra’s, and an r34 Skyline. I don’t love the 2.5 turbo from a mechanical perspective but it does it’s job and does it very well. Call me boring but Porsche really did something exceptional with the Turbo 944! Nice review and nice swap.
The LSX is actually just lighter than the full 2.5 Turbo engine and it’s necessary components if I remember correctly, so balance really isn’t messed with much. People do these swaps for many reasons; far more reliable, far easier to maintain, far cheaper to maintain, parts are easier to find and cheaper and of course the weight being so similar
Plus double the hp@@CarbonRevo91
@@CarbonRevo91this depends on the country in my country a lexus V8 is more common so that might be a safer bet.
The 928 came out before the 944. The 968 replaced the 944
Hey Glenn! Really enjoy your videos, I heard about your channel through Car Lifestyle podcast years ago haha. Yes! Thanks for the correction. It was poor wording on my part... 🤦 what I meant by that was the 924 came ahead of the 944, while the final version (5.4L) 928 was in production long after the 944 was gone.
Roads Untraveled thanks, ! That’s funny. I was on Ferretti’s podcast for 3 years but only on one Car Lifestyle podcast... I love your video I have been watching since I heard your name on the Everyday Driver podcast. Of course I like your E46 M3, E92 M3, Z3M, Z4M videos best. Your R8 V10 manual and Cayman video were great and this video has me shopping for LS Swapped cars. If your ever in the New Jersey area let me know and we can collaborate. Take care !
That engine fits and looks well in the bay. I spun a turbo on a roundabout in the 90's in the rain didnt hit a thing phew ! this is exactly what i would do with a 944 the chassis is suited to this set up .
This model Porsche reminds me of an FC RX7. I have an LS3 but it doesn't sound as good as the one in this video. A fine example of a modified Porsche & excellent review👍🙂.
924 came before a rx-7.😉
Thank you for actually driving the car a good bit through the video and giving plenty of nice fly by shots. Excellent. Subed
best wishes from a german 944 enthusiast! As I am the 1111th thumb up, i am pleased to leave a comment:-) By the way, I also have a 944 engine swap with 420hp and nearly 600Nm torque. My engine is an Audi 2.2 20V turbo engine, known for its reliability, great sound and the possibility to get even double the power out of it... but I also think that the 400+ hp already fits perfect without overloading the powertrain. It simply feels like this car was made for exact this class power. A V8 conversion with same power, more sound and no turbo lag would be even greater, but unfortunately nearly impossible to get legal on the road here.
marcus my man, cam SHAFT when talking about LS engines. singular shaft in the middle of the engine, i'm used to dohc too
Very awesome! I remember working as an apprentice mechanic at a VW/Porsche/Audi dealership back in/about 1986 and I did some work on the oil cooler of a Porsche 924S, I believe. Took it for a test drive and did about 90 in a 35mph zone. I would love one of these with the LS3 swap and I would take it any day over a Corvette especially with the trans in the rear and how well balanced that makes the vehicle. I drive a 2010 VW GTI today as my daily driver.
Fun video I’m a huge fan of the 944 I agree it’s just the ultimate chiseled muscular sleek look. Very nice to see/hear American power under that hood💪🏼
This has been an elusive dream of mine and your video has just brought it to life in the most perfect way.
It sucks that the prices for these porsches are now on the rise. I think this is maybe the best all around car you can have for the money.
Great video, I have owned 86 944 turbo for 17 years and they are very special cars. Great balance, great looks, great power, comfortable and forgiving. I personally like the stock engine, but I am sure this is a hoot.
Just an FYI, those seats were an option on 944s as well as 911s. They are the factory sport seats.
Aaahh no way! Didn't know that. Yeah they came straight out of a friend's '88 911
when i was a kid i wanted a firebird, all the ones around me in my late teens were to trashed for high prices but since porsche snobs never saw the 944 as a true porsche i was able to afford one. i saw it as a scaled down firebird at first because of the beautiful big glass hatch, pop up head lights and overall proportions. now i love the car so when you said the ls and the 944 make a perfect german and american muscle car i couldnt agree more.
If you ever want to drive a modified '86 944 turbo in Guards Red (with the original motor) and see the difference between LS and I4 Turbo let me know, I'm in NorCal and would love for you to come take a drive!
I'd love to! Once the border opens up haha we'll be back to California in a heartbeat
@@RoadsUntraveled Sounds good man, just hmu when you're in Cali and I'll bring the car
@@jackkost967 where are u..’86 944T here too (but not guards red!), as u know weather is finally getting nice around here hoping to get in some nice drives
@@HeyhitmeBAM hey man I’m up in the East bay, pleasanton/ livermore/ San Ramon area
@@RoadsUntraveled I'm in Langley have stock 86 turbo, factory Koni,
Just in shop waiting on those expensive parts, lol
Keep making these kind of vlogs about cars . Thank you for another one.
Thank you!! Show would be nothing without you guys 🙏
this channel should be getting more views than some overrated ones for real
We appreciate it, glad you enjoyed the video. Stay tuned for some more crazy builds!
Wish y'all made rb26det tags here in the states a lot of people going single turbo
+1 here
Definitely one of the best reviews I've seen from this channel..LS swapped 944s are very nice..It's about 3 in the Richmond to Maryland D.C. area..👍🏁
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. Stay tuned for more crazy builds.
There's one for sale in Maryland now
I've always loved the 944. She is a curvy car. This one is so well put together. I think I should get one. Yep, I gotta get one.
They’re slow but very very fun
@@davidpoulsen2669 140 ain't slow bro. Rog
No joke, this guy is the business. Big fan.
A beautiful dream. I will leave my 944 stock. Oh but if it breaks....
This swap is not that cheap either, but looks ideal.
Why not do a VW inline 5 swap. Unique and relatively cheap.
@Thor Odin son Has anyone done it?
@Thor Odin son Okay, I thought you meant the VW. The 944 has a rear transaxle. I doubt there is room for a front transmision. Are you saying switch to a corvette rear end?
Had a 1987 turbo. "Baddest" car I ever owned. 50/50 weight ratio. A driver's dream.
I just was at SEMA, and there was a 944 with an LS swap, racing on the circuit course. It might have even been this one! It was by far my favorite car on the course, and now I’m looking to buy one and build it haha
I’ve just bought a early Porsche 1982 944, achieving a dream goal of mine! Out of curiosity I wanted to see if people had swapped a V8 into one of these because I always thought it would be too small but wow I was wrong! Sounds absolutely magnificent and if I actually had funds I would so do this, being British I would probably fit the wonderful Rover 4.0 litre V8.
With the earlier 944s, you also have to change out the transaxle because it couldn't handle the power that the turbo transaxles could. So find yourself a turbo transaxle in the junkyard
It is just amazing. love the swap. I would love to do that to my 944 but cant seem to find anyone in the area to even touch the swap. Awesome!!!
I'm seeing some gainss! Great video as usual 💪🏼💪🏼
Thank you!
Looks better and sounds better than today's porsche cars. 1980s sports cars in general looked like spaceships. 1960s muscle cars were also amazing. Same goes for 1990s Japanese cars.
EPIC!
This is amazing! The perfect 944. If this ever goes for sale this would be my choice.
I love the variety of car that you post up on your channel.
Variety is key when it comes to driving!!
This was my favorite Porsche growing up. I now own a Boxster S with a blown motor that I'm planning to LS swap. This video helped give me reassurance that I'll be making the right decision :)
I recommend looking into renegade hybrids for your build! They make swap kits for the Boxster s that could potentially make your life easier.
Kyle DF Yup! That’s the direction I plan to go. I’m not sure if I’m capable of doing it myself...I like to wrench a little here and there but my most involved project to date has been replacing a water pump and thermostat so I’m gonna have to work up to it 😅
Ill say i LOVE my 944 LS swapped daily
It is just as nice and clean as this beauty and i cannot wait to finisb the video on her because this just makes me wanna go drive her more!
Can you ballpark what it cost in total? Also, what do you look for in any 944 when doing this?
@@user-fo2el6jm7n Sorry for such a late reply.
mainly becasue cars are going up in value a already blown motor or missing motor find is preffered to start.
Manual transmission only and lsd is best.
AND IF YOUR DONT! upgrade them damn brakes your going to die.... TOO fast with too much power, with very skinny wheels, and anorexic brakes. These are a must ESPECIALLY IF you go manual brakes over hydro boost, power assisted, or other means.
I build mine by hand spending only money on adapter, clutch, engine. and my total was under 4k.
Friends I've build theirs for 7-44k depending on what they want.
mine are bolt in optional power steering, A/C, heat, and all the bells and whistles work like cruise control like factory.
Time and patience is the biggest factor.
also not these so claimed "kits" suck. and suck bad 944's being this old flex and settle.
of the dozen or so I have made ever frame rail was a little different in its buldge or flex.
This makes parts like the headers, heads, brakes and other things some times a pain in the butt to fit unless you tailoring these to EACH car by hand.
Simple things like the intake routing isn't the same car to car as oddly enough as one of my personal cars I built a plastic elbow that fits PERFECT. on my other 944 it wouldn't fit if I cut it in half.... and no idea why.
VERY quirky cars.
@@alorrick7546 thats awesome man. thanks for taking the time comment and share! Amen on the brakes lol They seem like a rewarding and unique project if you invest in one.
Might have to try before the end of the gasoline era!
I owned a 944 back in the 90s, and never liked the front bumper and always wanted to do the 951 Turbo front bumper swap. Now 2023 and I like the 944 NA bumper better than the Turbo bumper. Something about the NA bumper design makes the 944 look badass!
Great review. Trying to get my 951 back on the road for more driving joy.
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Great job young man - excellent work happy to syb to your channel
Great vid as usual man! I’m low key eyeing a 944 Turbo...prices are starting to creep up! An aside: what camera do you use? Nice cinematography.
Just bought a 1985 944, looking forward to an LS swap in the future
Great video, great car! any documented online build for this 944?
Id be interested to see you take the 944 to a weigh station and get axle weights so that we can see how much the ls affected the weight distribution of the car. Car looks super clean and classy and sounds amazing by the way, Great Vid!
+130lbs in the front
aluminum 5.3 is remarkably close in weight to the 944 motor
Videos like these make me want to ditch my 600hp n54 and ls swap something small and nimble haha. Great video as always man!
Subtle flex lol
Matt Drutis I know right lol
Awesome video...tempted to check Craigslist for a new project car. :O
Shut the front door damn it. I haave one of these weathered but, for the most part rust free in the midwest. lots of videos about this machine "which I love the stance" now comes this video explaining the swap. Good job fellas. Now i know whatta gotta do....yeah.
I have one we built with a ~350 horse aluminum lc9 engine (LS) from a 944 N/A platform. Upgraded the front suspension to 996 Brembo brakes and drilled rotors. The thing eats even with the stock na rear transaxle. Suspension and brakes work beautifully. No complaints here my guy
How's that transaxle holding up?
@@cartermackenzie1135 still rolling! Drove some long trips to cars and coffee this fall probly put 500 or so miles on it last few months of the season this year before storing it.
@E4 Will23 what year is your 944? I have a 84 that im swapping an lm7 into rn, but i plan on picking up an aluminum block in the future
@@cartermackenzie1135 mine is an 84 as well. When I bought it it had the 2.5 pulled already so instead of rebuilding it, the ls swap just made sense
@E4 Will23 bad ass man, I blew the head gasket on mine being a dumb ass. Then I decided It's funnier to piss off the porsche crowd than to join them.
This has quickly become my favorite car Channel
Thanks! I am glad you are enjoying the content
I had the 944s but always found it underpowered . this is a beast
I personally like the US spec bumpers better idk why everyone hates on them. I think the big black rubber pads add a lot to the look, almost giving it a more rally feel without anything else being done to it. But to each their own I suppose. Proud owner of a US spec 944 🙏
In a word WOW! I agree in this case no more power is needed. Sounds so good. I want one.
Still have my black 1984 944 Porsche with 84 000 miles on the dial. Rog. Pacific sunset records.
The best restoration ever seen🎉❤
Great car! Great video !!!
The driving experience between your car and a stock turbo is completely different, 250hp difference, coil overs/springs. It’s a whole different experience. Badass though. Great video.
Wow, didnt even know it has this kind of potential👍
This Engine kicks in the 944 more than in a Corvette !
Top review Marcus !
Thank you!
such a beautiful shape
Now that's a proper swap 👍
These cars have a huge cult following and a racing heritage, this would be considered an Outlaw Porsche, by the enthusiasts. Great Video and Sound, I would research a little more next time, so your Technical information is a little more on point for the Purists and 944 Fans.
924/944/968: 4 Cylinders
928: 8 Cylinders
I knew it was an LS when you opened it up in the beginning...I put that shit in everything
The intro music gave me vibes of being on a pirate ship out on the open seas, laddy
Completely underrated channel.
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this is some kind of Porsche '948' 🔥
My ultimate dream car. 944S2 was my favourite.
Dig that intro man
is it necessary to have a 944 Turbo to do the 'SWAP'?....can you do more of a 'MILD' Version V8 Swap for a '87 NA 944 ( Automatic ). unable to 'drive 'Stick'..due to foot 'Defection'....
Building one right now !!!!
Hey, that's cool! My old Mazda Protege also has a gearbox paired with a transmission!
The gearbox and transmission are the same thing 😄 on a 944 the gearbox is paired with the diff!!! 😎😎😎😄😄😄🇺🇸🇩🇪🍺
Great video on the car. Your transaxle Porsche history is a little off however.
88 Turbo S with minor tweaks is a 300 rear wheel hp car. Koni adjustable, ride height adjustable, 928 big black brakes and limited slip diff, 90% of the performance and you keep original value...Just saying. I love mine.
Though dreaming of a 944 LS3 swap, I respect your feelings. :-)
I would never do that to a 911 though. There are certain things in life you do not do haha.
Love it!
Fantastic job..i miss my 951
To put it in perspective, this is a car that is lighter and with more power than a Lamborghini Countach or Ferrari Teatarossa of the same year. And having driven the 944 it is an amazing handling car that just needed a bit more hp
15:22 NO, NO, NO... no... The 928 came out in 1977 in Europe and 1978 for the US. The 924 ALSO came out in 1977. The 924 was originally a joint development with Volkswagen for a low-budget sports car, that ultimately lost out to the Scirocco. It used a 2L inline 4 from the VW Quantum. The 944 body was based on the 924 Turbo race cars. The first year 951 that you're driving gave way to the 944 S2 3.0L inline 4, that was later used in the 968. Porsche re-released the 924S that was a narrow body 944 in 1987, complete with 2.5L engine and NA transaxle, along with narrower wheels and tires.
Everything is your favorite wtf dude !
Took at 944 through a telephone pole at the front passenger wheel with 2 of my buddies. I was in the front seat. We all walked away unscathed.
Have 2 944's love both 84 is NA 87 drivetrain is Completely out and there Won't be a BowTie going in IT 😯🇺🇸👍
Unreal 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
This is a TOP GUN 944 !
944's have always been one of my favorite Porsches of all time. I would rather restomod a 944 than buy a new GT3 I enjoy the history and the build process over a out of the box car.
I have a feeling most mr2 guys just drool over these amazing 944s
MR2 dreamer.... Still drooling
Awesome project!! Love the car. Did you weigh it?
THIS IS ONE OF MY DREAM BUILDS
What a monster
you know, i used to be opposed to the idea but now, i think its pretty cool and you would really piss the 911 guys off.
Yo yo, so I’ve got an 85 base 944 into my gparents garage... thinking about fixing it up and buying it to do something like this one, but I’m very “green” when it comes to car customization and swaps, any thoughts on this potential project car?
try to find a mentor to help you learn the basics. Get some decent tools together. Save up a bunch of money and go for it bub.
I had a 1988 Porsche 944, and it's the best car I ever owned. It was in Alpine white with black interior. Sadly I wrecked it before I could do an LS swap.
gorgeous car
The glass jaw on these cars is the rear mounted gearbox. The turbo box was stronger, but can you swap in a C6 rear transaxle like they do in the 928 swaps?
Takes quite a bit of fabrication but it has been done
@Roads Untraveled awesome vid. how much did the owner put into this swap? everything looks like it was done so right.
That's just crazy man
Haha we thought so to, thanks for watching!
Wow un vrai pur sang 🔥🔥🔥😱💪💪
It's cool for the sleeper factor, nobody expects it to be fast.
I'd love to put a 911 GT3 996 engine in the front and gearbox at the back.
Though nice build. Definitely something I'd like!
That would be incredible
I've had four 944s (three turbos) including an '89 I've had for 22 years. I'll never sell it.