I worked in the schools for a few years. It is NOT funding. It is FAMILY INVOLVEMENT . Parents period are the biggest factor . It’s not COLOR, It is CULTURE.
yup, that's why the mob of kids in chicago deleted stores regardless if they had food or not, they weren't starving, so none of it was charged by desperation like the chicago mayor insisted. Just acting like possesed demons.
FACTS! It doesn't take a village, it takes two involved parents. I have many family members and friends that are teachers. Money is not the issue it's the excuse. Parents need to be parents and not act like children themselves. PARENTS are your main teachers for life, period. If your're successful in life, thank your parents.
I am a black teacher. Our black culture does not value education as a whole. I have taught in all black schools. Many parents did not value education. I taught kindergarten and I taught my students to read. I had a fellow teacher who taught her kindergarten class the letters and sounds only. That was the extent of what we were suppose to do. But I knew my students could learn to read. Teachers, parents and the students are all at fault. The black culture needs to do better at preparing their children for success. Stop telling the children that education is not important as parents. Teachers have to believe that their students can learn. Relationship is important but if you privately believe the students can’t learn, relationship means nothing. The video gave both sides equally. The guy in the back needs to do his research. They give funding to many black schools. Funding is not the answer! The kids do not want to learn because it is not valued in black homes. Read more books by Thomas Sowell especially the guy in the back who wanted to argue but does not know the issues. Most of my black students did not have a dad in the home. It is a big problem. I used a white board and text book. It works!
You very beautifully and eloquently said everything I was thinking including the point about the guy in the back. It seems like he is like this a lot in videos. I think once he does a lot more research and listens to all sides, he’s smart enough to figure out what’s really going on and will make positive changes for himself and others around him.
I disagree school is boring, students are also over worked. If you notice students have been doing worse. I taught myself majority of everything I know because I made it fun for myself when I was in suspended which was damn near every week or other week. The only time I learned something was when a teacher made it fun or they pound us to death with work. I’m 27 now don’t have to work I own a trucking company I graduated college a year after highschool. Let’s be realistic most parents cave be there everybody don’t have that privilege. You really looked at this from a very onesided perspective
@Judy Gray, I don't know if you have had the opportunity to read Dr. Ben Carson's autobiography, (if you haven't I recommend it) but it really underscores how important it is for a parent to make their children's education a priority. His mother was a single mom, uneducated and illiterate. Ben and his brother were at or near the bottom of their classes in grades. She got fed up and told them that she was restricting their TV watching to 2 programs per day, and that they had to read 2 books per week and write a book report on each book they read. They didn't know that she couldn't read, so she pretended to read the book reports they submitted as they were telling her about the books. Within a year, both of them were at the top of their class. Dr. Ben went on to become one of the foremost surgeons in the WORLD. His brother literally became a rocket scientist.
@Judy Gray. Very good points. I'm sure there are other songs but this one springs to mind, Run Dmc 'it's like that'. 40 years old. It can't be easy though trying to learn in a class with 'tough boy, gansta wannabees' .
I’m a 53 year old black male and an 8th grade Science teacher. I love watching these young men have this kind of open dialogue, impressive and inspiring.
I used to work at a medical school. Over the years there have been several programs that were meant to help black kids get their medical degrees, but often it seemed that the standards had been reduced to help move them along. More than a few times, the kids advanced were clearly without all the learning that they needed to succeed. They earned their MD but could not cut it through the required 4 year residency program, could not pass their board exams, and were let go from the residency program. So they failed. Of course the college doesn't care because they already got their tuition money through the enormous student loans these young people had to take out. Heartbreaking. So not only are they failures at their chosen field, they have hundreds of thousands of dollars in student debt. It should be a crime. Keep up the good work, y'all!
They do it in South Africa with BEE, they want equality in every industry and in universities, so they lower the requirements for certain groups and then you end up with unqualified people in positions they shouldn't be. That doesn't mean the intention is wrong, but it isn't working
M.I.T. university dropped the need for tests scores like 4 years ago and the new students (without an ACT or SAT score) did so poorly the university has now reinstated test score requirements.
Not surprising. I get so irritated with people who think test scores shouldn't matter. If you can't prove you know something, that's a problem. Grades don't prove what you know, in many cases. Grades can skew things a lot in your favor, or against you, while not reflecting what you know... because there is not a standardized way of evaluating for grades.
@@brn2863 test scores shouldn’t be the only determining factor. Especially considering that plenty of poor school districts don’t offer the advance classes needed to do well on these test.
These young men would benefit looking into Dr. Ben Carsons childhood story and what his mom did for him concerning his education. It is an amazing story and she is an outstanding wise women worthy of honor. If everyone had a mother like Ben Carson the world would be a better place.
What "they" have done to Ben Carson is truly appalling! They even removed his name from a high school!!!! Why!? It's so disheartening it makes me want to cry.
@@christododo2823 I'm sorry to say but she's States a lot more facts than you think name one thing she's lied about dude I'll wait. By the way my wife is African black.
As a teacher, I can't stand when teachers get blamed for students performing poorly. This idea that it's the teacher's fault when a student doesn't achieve is often ridiculous. It absolutely is the teacher's responsibility to get to know their students and how they learn best, but at the end of the day, the teacher cannot learn for the students. Putting people in environments too far beyond their ability is setting them up for failure. For example, if you put me in a physics grad class, I would utterly fail. We shouldn't be giving anyone unfair advantages. What I think would be a good idea is for universities to judge applications based solely on grades and admission essays. Applications shouldn't even have names on them, but rather numbers. No mention of race or gender - these are vestiges from a time when the government wanted to know how many white men there were. Just straight admissions with numbers instead of names.
What a fascinating conversation. I’m a teacher, and I’ve loved reading the comments from other teachers. I work at a title 1 (low income) school. What I’ve experienced is if the parent(s) value education, the students perform better. Ive had plenty of single moms who work too much to help their kids at home, so they make sure their kids get help through other resources. Most schools offer tutoring opportunities either in person or virtually. I’m constantly pointing my students to resources they can access at home. At the same time, the number of “trainings” I have to sit through that explicitly tell us to lower expectations for minority students because they simply can’t meet those standards is staggering. The soft bigotry of low expectations is one of the greatest failings of our public school system.
You are absolutely right about parents needing to value education. Why are 1st and 2nd generation Asians absolutely crushing academics in the west? Parents. I'm Asian and let me tell you about my family. I have over 20 cousins. Every family gathering, my parents and aunts and uncles are competing with each other to see who has the most successful child. My parents would tell me, "Look at cousin Andy, he's a doctor now. Look at cousin Sandra, she got accepted to Harvard." Failure and being a nobody is not an option. Bringing honor to the family name is such a big deal. But somehow, Americans seem to look at that kind of competition as unnecessary stress or even abuse. When I was young, of course I hated it. I hated the pressure. I hated the constant comparison to my ultra successful cousins. But now I'm 37, and I'm totally thankful for all the success I have because I was pushed. I was expected to perform.
I was a poor white girl raised by an uneducated single mother in HUD housing. I’m getting my masters now after staying home to raise my four kids. The teachers at my school were the ones that helped me to see my capability. I went on to teach in the inner city and cared more than most of the parents and kids did about their success. Students need to be self-motivated but also externally encouraged. Thanks for this discussion.
and that is mentorship of any kind...somebody to steer you...i was poor from single mother with 8 kids...she was forced to stop working to stay home on welfare to get us back from welfare who had taken us in Australia..i had no mentor and was very bright but day dreamed my time away..
So in the end you knew what shitty circumstances were from experience and strived to help elevate other kids once you had the chance to show them there was a path forward... I mean the world needs more teachers with that dedication and understanding. That goes a long way toward fixing the root issues that brought about this conversation and laws in the 1st place. Thank you for your years of service.
@@mikedemike5393 I’m sorry you didn’t have a mentor. I had so many wonderful mentors! I was extremely luck and I appreciate the education I received. We used to call it “grooming your replacement.” The word groom had been used by mentors to describe how they trained certain people to rise up. as their mentor steps down.
I'm a 70 year old black man, and I enjoy hearing you young brother working this issue out. I believe you guys are also on the right track listening to Thomas Sowell, don't stop
As a proud American Thomas Sowell is a National treasure, I’m seriously Ben angry for years why this mans knowledge and wisdom isn’t front and center, I guess the truth hurts and many people aren’t ready
MAN! I'll tell yall my highschool experience was a nightmare! I went to a mostly white school for 2 years, then I moved and I went to a black highschool. Talk about day and night! I was bullied and attacked because I was pretty much the only white kid around! The teachers couldn't teach or get a word in. The principal did nothing to stop these kids! That was a horrible time in my life!
Gentlemen, I watched 3 of your videos, and the most wonderful thing is that the five of you men are opening up to other perspectives and are having intellectual discussions. Would love to see y’all expand this into a community event for young men - where they too can have exposure to other points of view. God bless you my brothers!
You have to remember what Amala said regarding the teaching of people to be "less white". Many of those things that they say come from "whiteness" were things like 1. perfectionism (caring to a high degree to do the best possible) 2. punctuality (being on time and prepared for things consistently) 3. Focus on achievement (having a desire and drive to improve 4. Productivity (making good use of time and resources to produce results If minority groups are being taught this kind of thinking - to avoid those "white" things, they will ultimately have worse performance on academic and professional pursuits. It is not because they are black or minorities that they do poorly - they are literally taught and trained to do poorly. If their parents don't step in and correct these bad teachings from the school, the children will do poorly in school. If parents are convinced they can trust the school to teach their children good values - better than the parent can - the children are going to do poorly in school and life. Parental involvement is a HUGE factor in success. The parents who are pushing their kids toward the values wrongly described as "whiteness" values, are the parents who have children who do well in school and have good character values (on average) in almost all life pursuits. The parents who are not involved (whether due to time constraints, overly trusting in public schools and government to teach their children, or apathy_ are the parents who, on average, have children who do poorly in school and in life pursuits - then blame that on other people and continue the cycle. Parent involvement in a childs life is the ultimate thing that can set them up for success academically, professionally, and socially. NO matter what color or background, economic situation or living condition.
Also, Asians are pushing these values the most and outperform even whites! Here's my original comment above: Candace, Danielle, Amala, and Tyler were on the money! Success comes down to Parenting/Mindset/Culture (PMC) that places value on education and hard work. Some of the most well funded schools are in the inner city, and still are getting bad results as Candace mentioned. Affirmative action results in mismatch (As several of them mentioned and referenced Dr. Thomas Sowell). It's also unfair to one particular group- Asians. They are very inconvenient to the left, because despite being minorities as well- they tend to succeed because of the same PMC/valuing education factor that I mentioned above. In fact, I went to an elite public high school in NYC, where the only criteria for getting in was performance on an entrance exam taken in 8th grade (similar in nature to the SAT but 8th grade level). The demographics of the school was approximately 60% Asian, 25% white (mostly Jewish), 10% Hispanic (mostly South American), and 5% Black (Mostly African/Carribean). The students at the school, including my friends- we all had one thing in common, strong PMC and valuing education. The best and brightest got in, no matter what race/gender/religion and so on. Btw, our idiot ex mayor Deblasio- tried to get rid of the test because the students at these elite schools "didn't reflect the demographics of the city". Thanks to students, parents, alumni petitions, it didn't happen. When we get to the root cause which is PMC/Valuing education, the problem gets fixed!
This ideology makes me so angry because ultimately it’s teaching kids to FAIL and not teaching them the habits of success that ALL cultures follow. These ideologues who work at schools and colleges will make damn sure their own children work hard and get everything done on time. They are the biggest hypocrites going. I taught my kids to read at home before they even went to school and that is what my mom did for me. I was reading library books before Kindergarten. She was from a working-class background and wanted to make sure I learnt the habits of her own success. It’s upper class people making sure working class people stay in their place and their own kids won’t have any competition. Just total BS.
I love that young men are talking about this. I've been a teacher for 3 decades. I meet my students where they're at academically and take them as far as I possibly can with the short time I have them. And when parents help me teach that education is crucial, there are no limits!
Candace nails it completely. I'm mixed race but I'm supposed to list Native American and not white. I always pick other and write mixed if I can. Skills and talent should be what gets people in everything.
I agree with you on mixed race as Im half-Irish half Hispanic.I hate those ethnicity questions and wish. There was one that just said American because that's what us mixed race people truly are.We are the epitome of being what an american is.
You don't have to list Native American if you don't want to, but if you don't, you are purposely turning away funding. The more minorities that live in a community, especially Native Americans, the more funding it receives from federal government according to Census data. If you are Native American, are you a member of a federally recognized Tribe? My aunt and uncle are members of the Muckleshoot Tribe. Even though they don't live on the reservation but are members, they receive annual profit subsidies from casino and the Amphitheatre. That might be something you should look into that.
I was a single mom raising my daughter, but I never taught her to be a victim but victor! I made sure she makes her school as a priority. I was doing my RN program and on food stamps when she was in elementary school. I taught her how to read and be competitive when it comes to sports and classes/subjects. Now she is 19 paying for her own college, working at Home Depot and playing competitive tennis. Education is up to parents to embed on their young ones. Teachers should just be treated as a plus but not to replace parent's duties. Parents also should be choosy on who the kid should be hanging out with, and even restrict the social media they are putting themselves on. Race is nothing but a color, my daughter is brown and asked me why she couldn't be white like her classmates. I cut that out real quick! I raised her to have great skills and qualities that I know will help her be successful rather than depend on what other people's think due to her color. I know she will get her goals in life not because of affirmative action but her quality to compete with others whatever color they maybe.
what good will all your great prepping do when your daughter is denied employment by a racist white boy or girl even though she's qualified they will have her working under an autistic white manager before they make her manager y'all fail to realize the system we are under our best option is to teach our kids to be entrepreneurs we will never reach our heights in a white run society it's not complaining it's just reality history shows and today's conditions of black community shows there is not an equal playing field
I love to sit there and watch you guys work out the world problems, in a mature, awesome form !!!! It gives me hope for the next generation of all young men. Keep up the good work.
You young men are a wonderful example of what people should be doing. You are listening to both sides of the argument and making an informed decision.I love the discussion you have . I have so much respect for you.
100%. I really enjoy all their videos. Zero judgement between them, always respectful when they disagree/correct someone, and they aren’t afraid of saying they don’t know something.
As a white man who had a rough childhood and no parents, I agree with the takes on merit. If you're not determined to succeed despite the struggles you go through, no one else will do it for you. Failure is always guaranteed unless you change the probabilities that you can work with. Let's stop with weakness and embrace strength, giving up is a loser's point of view.
I agree with you to an extent but let’s also not act like every student is the same or can overcome obstacles because you were able to. Some of the same students that have failed and “didn’t care” might have succeeded and had a great career if they had someone in their life be it better teachers, parent, mentor that pushed them to be better and helped them succeed.
I encourage you to research more into a child's brain. A child's future and the person they become depends heavily on there home. There will always be a few that make it out but majority won't especially if they have issues like dyslexia adhd add etc. For example so many people think k dyslexia just means they can't read but it's so much more than that and without the proper help and education they are bound to fail and have less confidence in their adult life
@@pgpro8691 I never said I was able to, I think you failed to capture my take on the matter. Inspirations are a form of encouraging people through guidance and I feel like for someone to feel more relatable they need to find someone who can fit in their description but was never able to overcome their problems and that's where people like you and me can make a small but impactful difference overall.
Appreciate that you guys are having an open conversation on the subject. Thought I’d share my opinion based on my experiences. I’m 37 years old, I’m bi-racial and was raised in a single-parent household by choice at the time and we were low income. We got by with help from family, friends, and my mother’s work ethic. My mother was a hair stylist, worked ridiculous hours and but she also wasn’t great with money. I barely graduated from high school, and it was mostly because of lack of direction, lack of interest and prioritizing. It didn’t affect me until I noticed experiences I was missing out on. College wasn’t it for me because I didn’t see the value in building day to day, instead living day to day. I was smart enough to surround myself with great friends and people I wanted to be like as a young adult. I’m a hard worker, learn from every experience I have, I’m respected and looked at as a very wise man for my age and an intellectual by the people I have dealings with. The skills that have taken me the furthest in life are my contrast thinking and my ability to communicate and understand people. I was very good at my last career of 12 years and have just started a new one due to what the ceiling looked along with what I wanted the second half of my life to look like. In hindsight, I can say that it wasn’t anything that the system wasn’t giving me. It was that I didn’t know any better because of prioritizing, I didn’t have the structure and I didn’t have anyone there to express how fun and gratifying SUCCESS is versus how fun having fun is. Keep up the good work fellas.
I've been watching this channel for awhile now and I have to say that this is my favorite video. I don't know if you all have ever considered it, but you should be doing podcast's on these heavier topics. I could feel the passion you all have in hashing it out amongst yourselves and trying to iron out what each one of you see's as a wrinkle in the problems we face as a nation and world. The best debates are when it's real, raw, and off the cuff. I can't tell you how much I would love listening to all of you discuss things longform. Keep your heads up and thank you for the great content.
Sometimes I worry about our future based on the negative images in current media. I watch you guys and think "We will be OK, these guys will figure it out." Keep working at it, you guys are great.
@@arickhoops it's nice to think that they will figure it out because we want to have an optimistic view of our children, especially for when we are gone and they are left alone without us. The Bible gives us the hope of the paradise Earth. Psalm 37: 9-11,22,29,34) People just aren't paying attention to the Bible anymore not the actual scriptures. There are indeed religious people, but what do they actually base their current beliefs on. Is it scripture or what their Minister teaches? The Future for All mankind is GOD'S KINGDOM COMING (Matthew 6:10) that is what everyone should be looking for, but very few are.😢
The point he made about professors needing to “grease the wheels” when you are learning something new, is exactly the point. K-12 school is supposed to already have prepared you to learn that new information without anyone holding your hand. College is all about what you are willing to put into it. It’s no skin off their nose if you end up on academic probation or dropping out. Show up, don’t show up, they don’t care. They expect you to walk into college prepared, disciplined and determined to succeed. Only YOU have the power to put enough of yourself into your education to make it pay off for you.
Dude on the right was spot on with this one. My school just had whiteboards and textbooks under the desk. Thats all you need to learn if you want to. You don't need chromebooks and all that fancy stuff, it doesnt automatically make you learn better. Like the guy on the right said, most of us would just be watching CZcams in class. Also its pretty common, at least when I was in school, that studying and doing well wasn't the "cool thing". Goofing off and skipping class was. And those of us who played sports were pushed a little harder and caught breaks with grades bc we were on the team. Also, someone said it in the video. But there was definitely the "im gonna fail anyway" mentality going on, and of course that effected kids whose parents couldn't/wouldn't help them with homework and teach them. School funding can only do so much. People gotta want to learn. The more people around you who don't care about learning and want to just goof off makes you want to do the same. This is why its more obvious in low income school districts, because of the lack of help from parents and lack of seeing first-hand what school can do for you. Remember an exception doesn't change the rule.
All starts at home. Like that saying, monkey see, monkey do? Parents have to be good examples for their kids. We will see parents on tiktok acting like fools just for money, chasing that next paycheck. That's what our kids are seeing. Or that dad isn't there, mom isn't there, my mom said I'd be a loser, my dad said I'd be a good-for-nothing bum, kids REALLY listen to that shit. How can we give hope to our kids when we don't even have hope? When we're just chasing after that paycheck and the next guilty pleasure? There's no self-discipline in parents, and in turn, their children. We're teaching them to get their next 'high', whether it be doing drugs or having sex with any John or She-John or gorging ourselves on heart-attacking, 'finger looking good food'. We are going to fall like Rome, and it's probably for the best at this point.
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Fancy stuff? Lol you mean technology? Meanwhile Asian countries have preschoolers who can build robots. Quit dumbing our kids down. Our kids are failing at every metric as a country. No one should be talking about social justice or trans activism when the majority of high schoolers can't read. Every school needs to be focused on what matters.
There are many poor countries whose students do way better than the United States. Like the one gentleman said. All you need for most subjects is a teacher, some books, and students who will learn. It's not funding, it's culture.
I honestly appreciate your dialogue after the video more than just the reaction of the video. I am so glad to hear all of your opinions. This to me gets more to the point of the issues than 99% of the media out there
@@joebauers1467 I think dr Phil has peaked but he is a coward for not speaking out, for me a real gay man I have no choice but to speak out against the gender cult nightmare because it's full of real homophobic behaviour against gay/lesbian and we want nothing to do with flags pride ect.
Yup its definitely a "Black American" thing rather than the race. Whenever I encounter those who came from Africa, they usually have a healthy mindset and never clinging on victimhood
My mom was single, on welfare and was in HUD housing for the later half of my childhood, and this was actually a step up. The first half of my childhood I was school to school, never in the same school for more than a year, and sometimes less. The schools in the neighborhoods we could afford to live were never well funded or a "happy" place to be. I was able to do ok in HS because of the HUD housing and being able to go to the same HS for four years. after that I went to a JC and then to a State Uni. I worked hard, and earned my degree. I had no advantages, I had no generational wealth and to this day I know I got to where I am today based solely the grades I got and the work I did, because I was a dirt poor and poorly educated white kid with roadblocks and systems all set up against my success (everyone hates poor people, especially cops). Those leftists can say I had some kind of privilege but they don't know me or what I had to go through. The only privilege I ever had was between my ears, not on my skin. I love watching y'alls political videos because of your discussions with different points of view and real talk, it's really good. We are all a lot more alike than power wants us to think we are.
Yes but the problem boils down to poverty and how the system is set up to make you need gov assistance. Another unfortunate problem is parents addicted or not being able to take care of the child and still keeps the child.but if you work as hard as you can and are still poor its just slavery at its biggest form. Poverty is slavery.
@@Antrezz-gg4wx really? Most people can rise above their "poor" situation if they really want to. Notice I didn't say all but it's not impossible or even improbable. Whoever posted originally is an example. It's sure not easy though.
I'm native american, I was the first in my family to go to college and graduate. It was my parents encouragement that was my drive through school. Family plays a big part.
Keep in mind that many of these failing inner city schools are funded at higher rates than the average to try to combat their failures but it doesn’t work. They can’t make the kids study and school boards are very corrupt today and more concerned with pushing wokism than educating children. Also many of the kids just don’t care about studies and no amount of funding can change that behavior the parents and as you guys said the subculture would have to change for many students to change their outlook on education. Great review guys and I respect your honesty and the intelligent discussions you have on these topics.
@@Peopleofthesun386 well woke used to be enlightened to uncommon knowledge/wisdom. Not being a sleep on certain subjects. Now woke engulfs leftist propaganda under the veil of progressivism, inclusiveness and tolerance. Well tolerant and inclusive when you agree with them😅
I been saying that majority ppl are mixed, even if your parents both have the same highest ethnicity or color. It's someone in your family that been mixed. Eventually the mixed race ppl like in my family will just say they blk or just identify with the dominant color.
I am a white old lady and stumbling upon this video made my day. Love the fact that you are thoughtfully listening to both sides. The four of you will make it just fine in life.
I'm SO GLAD I've found people that are sane and can have a conversation. Can have disagreements and not start a fight or hate each other. Especially around my age too its hard to find.
I’m a minority and I can say this with extreme confidence, I’m interviewing any surgeon before any operation I have! I wish I could interview pilots before I flew too… We need to get back to a place where the currently rare function of COMMON sense reigned supreme over any decision that affected large swaths of the population. I need merited qualifications not how naturally intersectional an individual might be to determine preparedness. Likewise, here in Cali, as we approach election season, I urge everyone to think about who they are going to vote for… don’t make the mistake of continuing to vote for the same party we always have knowing that if they wanted to fix our issues, they already would have! Yes, it really is that simple. I’d rather have a person new to politics than a life long politician who is only playing the game to get wealthy like most here in this state. ❤❤❤
I'm white British. I attended high school in the 2000s. I was a victim of racism from black students on countless occasions. Each time I tried to deal with it through teachers, I was told to let it go because taking it further could possibly result in me being accused of racism myself.
The biggest problem with our education system is the fact that they are required to teach a ton of stuff that really has no consequence. Teachers are "forced" to rush through subjects to meet their performance expectations, meaning they have less time to actually go deep on a subject. Then you have fewer teachers, meaning that there are more students per teacher and even less time to help individual students. It's a HORRIBLE situation. And money is not the sole fix.
You guys looking at both sides and finding common ground with your fellow Americans make me proud to continue fighting for our Country. I get up in Ahoskie with a majority black community and went to 3 different elementary schools. Rich Square Creecy had a good teacher that left the profession crying due to how the childeren treated her, but Ahoskie elementary and Willis Hare Elementary were great. I've had good and bad teachers and deffinatly had no issue with race in the 90's. Those kids that put forth the effort made it in life that put the effort in, and kids would help each other out if they were struggling with a teacher that didn't explain the information properly. I do agree that it is multiple factors that contribute to the kids future, the biggest factor was thier parents followed by the teachers explaining the knowledge alongside the people trying to learn the information.
I tell ya, these days, if my child wasn't academically inclined, I'd push them towards a good vocational school. There's nothin wrong with working with your hands. Usually a skill that will ALWAYS be in demand.
I went to school in East Cleveland and I can tell you that the school had “special “ classes for kids who showed an interest in school. The regular classes were INSANE bc of the fighting. We couldn’t get through one class period without some disruption. It goes back to the culture.
That’s crazy I went to school in a normal country so we had regular classes and a special needs class for those falling behind. Last years even saw less classes to take time off and relax for staying around but never would have thought a special class for those wanting to learn haha
I've watched a few of your guys' react videos now. You guys are having good conversations and working through problems using your experience and developing critical thinking as individuals. You guys challenge one another and from video to video some of you are more passionate and vocal on a given topic. Its encouraging to see young people mentally engaged and not taking difficult topics like this for granted based on pre-conceived notions. Keep it up.
Candace Owens can be pretty sharp. I don’t watch her all the time because she also covers celebrity and entertainment news that aren’t topics that catch my ear. She’s great though, and tough as nails, smart and articulate. Dailywire+ gets a bad wrap from people who don’t actually watch Dailywire+. The only honest complaints I’ve heard from people who’ve watched any of the Dailywire+ content is - “I don’t care, this stuff doesn’t interest me” and “Ben Shapiro kinda talks too fast and I find it hard to follow.” If the only complaints about the media company Candace Owens belongs to are basically, “meh not interested” and that one host is too good at his job - then you can’t complain about that. Dailywire+ does push “conservative”, “politically right” a little bit of “religious right” with a couple hosts - they always back up their stories and comments in fact, current events and common sense realistic speaking points. Clearly I’m a bit of a Dailywire+ fanboy, but its taken a few years to fully understand the personalities and biases of each of their hosts, so when you do hear a talking point from them, you eventually get a better idea of both what they mean and why they said it. I was pro-choice all the way into my late 30’s but am pro-life in opinion now because I actually listened to why people have pro-life beliefs. I don’t expect everyone to think the same, but I’d hope most people try to be decent people and life to a rule of honesty and strive for civility and truth.
This was one of the best discussions I've heard in a long time. You guys are so open minded and capable of critical thinking. This gives me hope for future generations! Good job, guys!
It’s pretty obvious who is racist when you look at who benefits and who is practically enslaved to their ideology with a distant for discussing controversial topics
I think you guys made a good point. A student no matter their skin color will achieve success in school if they care and if their family and friends encourage them on the right path and also lead my example.
It is refreshing to see things from a different perspective. Listening to all of you has been eye opening and gives me hope for our children. We are never to old to learn. Speaking out as well as listening to one another will resolve many issues we face today. You are doing a great job , thank you. We have been programed to think and pass judgement . Now we can see more clearly and form our own opinions based on facts rather than assuming half truths and lies we have been falsely taught throughout our lives.
You're complaining about the result of a white supremacist idea, that being the "one drop rule".. You're then siding with Owens, someone who repeats white supremacist nonsense.. wtf are you doing?
Just subscribed to your channel after watching this video and the New York Mayor video. I love watching your reactions to music, and now seeing you all discuss these prominent issues with common sense no matter the race is so refreshing. Side note; the male doctor who stated he is half white and half black that chooses to mark black on his race box makes me wonder why? If he is half of each race? Choosing either would be half correct. I think those boxes and choices are so antiquated considering the amount of people who are mixed in todays society.
I am part Mexican and part white. I worked for the state of Michigan and a year or so after I started my job they were layoffs, because I was low seniority I was laid off. The thing was, my office desperately needed a Spanish-speaking worker because we had a large population of Spanish speaking clients. By the way I worked for the department of social services. My office tried desperately to get me back explaining the need for a Spanish-speaking case worker. The state denied my call back until… One supervisor suggested they try affirmative action because my mother is Mexican. Well guess what, they called me back. It didn’t matter how great the need was there was no way they were going to recall some white girl but thankfully I’m part Mexican and I return to my job. Fortunately, I was a great worker. My Mexican side of the family, my grandparents, aunts, uncles and my mother who were all former migrant workers taught me that I must work hard and go above and beyond what was asked of me and to always do my best in order to get ahead. Yes those traits were pushed upon me by my Mexican family not my white. But I do wanna say my father was a great example also as he had two jobs, five children, and went to school to become a State police officer. So I guess I had the best of both worlds.
My experience with affirmative action: my poor white best friend who worked his ass off in school and got a better grades in harder classes got denied at a prestigious school while the half black, half Mexican girl I dated whose family had more money and got lower grades in lower classes got in. That shit ruined my view of affirmation action. Keep up the good work gentlemen, you are truly helping the world with your inquisitive and level headed approach. 🙏💪
@@dom7119 certain races have lower requirements than whites…I worked in high school guidance offices & there are printed requirements BY RACE for every university.
@@dom7119 If its not based on merit then its based on bullshit. So much for Martin Luther King and his "I had a dream speech" and judging content and not character.
Don't believe everything that you hear. Even if this were true, do you think that it was race and not money? I seems to me that there was a big scandal recently in which rich white parents paid a huge amount of money and went to jail for the bribes they paid to get their entitled kids into college. When I showed up at my university in the 1970's, the few black students who arrived before me said that some of them had to come in for interviews (big afros scared some people). College applications used to require that the applicant submit a photo. That is one way minorities were rejected right away, regardless of grades. Colleges are not just full of "A" students. There are plenty of "B" and "C" students as well. (Just Ask President George W. Bush). Affirmation action is about opportunity. It does not promise that every student is going to do great things. Before affirmative action, my University was all white. When I applied and was accepted, my University could not hold my race against me as they had historically for other Black students, nor did they ask for a picture with my application. I attended a good school and graduated! Don't even get me started with the Legacy students who were allowed in regardless just because they were a Legacy! Furthermore, stop assuming that all the minority students are inferior. If someone attends a school that has over 15,000 students, and the school sets aside 100 slots for minorities, get over it! All students still have to perform. College is an excellent time to meet and get to know people from diverse backgrounds. That is part of what college is all about. What an opportunity to graduate as a more well rounded person!
1st off - I've been watching you guys a bunch lately. so refreshing. even when you disagree you keep a civil discourse and that's so important. Don't always have to agree, but it's always good to listen to other opinions. most "open minded" people are the most closed off. so good on you guys and keep it up. 2. I am so sad for the American school system that in 2023 they're still speaking in terms of "black school/white school". If there's racism in America, that's where it is. I actually think it's half systematic racism (Old racist white guys making decisions) and half black leadership, that lays blame and looks for enemies, instead of working together. 3. My conclusion from these videos - any politician that doesn't speak about the education system and their remedies for it, should NEVER get your vote. especially in black neighborhoods, communities and areas. The name of the video mentions Candace but I hope people pay attention to Amala Ekpunobi (The young woman with dreads). She is super smart, used to be very "liberal", now-she's a little too right IMHO, but if you're a critical thinker, she's amazing to listen to
The entire school system, up to a federal level, is in need of an overhaul. In Canada too. As I'm getting older. I've been really looking into the core of the issues I see. It all starts with elementary school and focusing on getting kids excited to learn new things and to keep on learning, wanting to learn as an adult. I've been learning so much watching you guys. And debating topics that many are afraid to. I appreciate you guys and the work you are doing. Thank you.
I am a senior citizen. I am so hopeful for the future after hearing you young gentlemen discuss a topic as heavy as this. Your parents and grand parents should be very proud of you.
I see this example playing out in my own family. I have 2 siblings- they both have 3 kids each, all of similar age. One sibling is single mom, and she doesn’t seem to put any emphasis on whether or not the kids do well in school. She’s the type that blames the teacher. Not surprisingly, her kids aren’t that intelligent and probably won’t end up all that successful even though they were born healthy with good aptitude. Her kids have no desire to learn, it’s sad. The other sibling is married and involved daily in her children’s lives. She emphasizes education and extra leaning activities (sports, dance, etc). She emphasizes family time. Her kids are ALL in gifted programs. It’s all about culture and family environment.
You young men are wiser than most people at your age. To be young and still be able to comprehend that you actually don't know it all, is a sign of that wisdom. I applaud your curiosity and willingness to speak on tough topics in this day and age.
When I started 1st grade in 1974, I was reading on a 3rd grade reading level. I have a cousin who was reading on a 6th grade reading level in 1st grade. I sincerely believe education begins in the home.
Lowering academic standards is also an insult to every other race. Like, screw my academic efforts, right? I worked hard to compete in school. Why do underachieving students get better school options because of their melanin?
This is my first time watching your channel it’s oddly fascinating to see you five intently listening to something. I keep looking at y’all eyes and you are all paying attention. Oddly enjoyable 😂
I’m not going to lie. As an Asian American, I do question every black student on an elite university campus if they made it there based on merit or on sympathy. I would hate to be in that position where people think I got in because someone felt bad for me.
As a Asian you are viewed the same as white by Collage Administration. They are looking for black first, then NA, then Hispanic but Asian and whites and males are dead last. It’s so they can feel good about themselves, they do not care at all about long term consequences or long term success it’s just admitting not graduating rates.
I was born in the 60s my favorite teacher was in middle school and she was a black teacher her name was Miss Parker!!! We all loved her she thought and she thought well I’m gonna count now thank you Miss Parker!! Because trust me I didn’t come from a family that studied with me at home or even a family that was home with me when I got out of school!!
Love this discussion. All learning situations are different. I was told the only way I would attend college would be under athletic scholarship. Note. I was told by my father I was to ignorant to attend because I was not intelligent enough
You guys are legit and give me hope for the future. Keep an open mind and don't let anyone tell you how to think. Make your own choices! Excellent content!
Keep an open mind, by reacting to ultra conservative, self-hating, race hustling shit by candice owens and thomas sowell to appeal to racist as white people on youtube?
With regard to haveing a teacher who you can "relate" to because they also came from an "underpriveleged" background, i call BS. When I was a kid, I NEVERRRR thought about whether or not my teacher was also poor, or came from my neighborhood. I just wanted THE BEST teacher who could help me understand the subject (math). I Thank GOD for Mrs Jacobs (white teacher), and I never knew anything much about her background other than she was from Hawaii.
How about encouraging individuals to STOP participating in selecting any boxes that continue to indicate "optional" and make this area go away altogether?! It's always going to be exclusionary, or else it wouldn't be there.
I worked in the schools for a few years. It is NOT funding. It is FAMILY INVOLVEMENT . Parents period are the biggest factor . It’s not COLOR, It is CULTURE.
yup, that's why the mob of kids in chicago deleted stores regardless if they had food or not, they weren't starving, so none of it was charged by desperation like the chicago mayor insisted. Just acting like possesed demons.
And school administration.
FACTS! It doesn't take a village, it takes two involved parents. I have many family members and friends that are teachers. Money is not the issue it's the excuse. Parents need to be parents and not act like children themselves. PARENTS are your main teachers for life, period. If your're successful in life, thank your parents.
@@mommabear2305 Thank you.
100%. I didn’t realize til reading comments that I just said what you already stated.
I am a black teacher. Our black culture does not value education as a whole. I have taught in all black schools. Many parents did not value education. I taught kindergarten and I taught my students to read. I had a fellow teacher who taught her kindergarten class the letters and sounds only. That was the extent of what we were suppose to do. But I knew my students could learn to read. Teachers, parents and the students are all at fault. The black culture needs to do better at preparing their children for success. Stop telling the children that education is not important as parents. Teachers have to believe that their students can learn. Relationship is important but if you privately believe the students can’t learn, relationship means nothing. The video gave both sides equally. The guy in the back needs to do his research. They give funding to many black schools. Funding is not the answer! The kids do not want to learn because it is not valued in black homes. Read more books by Thomas Sowell especially the guy in the back who wanted to argue but does not know the issues. Most of my black students did not have a dad in the home. It is a big problem. I used a white board and text book. It works!
You very beautifully and eloquently said everything I was thinking including the point about the guy in the back. It seems like he is like this a lot in videos. I think once he does a lot more research and listens to all sides, he’s smart enough to figure out what’s really going on and will make positive changes for himself and others around him.
I disagree school is boring, students are also over worked. If you notice students have been doing worse.
I taught myself majority of everything I know because I made it fun for myself when I was in suspended which was damn near every week or other week. The only time I learned something was when a teacher made it fun or they pound us to death with work.
I’m 27 now don’t have to work
I own a trucking company
I graduated college a year after highschool.
Let’s be realistic most parents cave be there everybody don’t have that privilege. You really looked at this from a very onesided perspective
@@LyricalIAm I’ve been on the other side. Used to be a hard left democrat. So I can see both sides and still agree with this lady and Candace Owens.
@Judy Gray, I don't know if you have had the opportunity to read Dr. Ben Carson's autobiography, (if you haven't I recommend it) but it really underscores how important it is for a parent to make their children's education a priority. His mother was a single mom, uneducated and illiterate. Ben and his brother were at or near the bottom of their classes in grades. She got fed up and told them that she was restricting their TV watching to 2 programs per day, and that they had to read 2 books per week and write a book report on each book they read. They didn't know that she couldn't read, so she pretended to read the book reports they submitted as they were telling her about the books. Within a year, both of them were at the top of their class. Dr. Ben went on to become one of the foremost surgeons in the WORLD. His brother literally became a rocket scientist.
@Judy Gray. Very good points.
I'm sure there are other songs but this one springs to mind, Run Dmc 'it's like that'. 40 years old.
It can't be easy though trying to learn in a class with 'tough boy, gansta wannabees' .
I’m a 53 year old black male and an 8th grade Science teacher. I love watching these young men have this kind of open dialogue, impressive and inspiring.
I used to work at a medical school. Over the years there have been several programs that were meant to help black kids get their medical degrees, but often it seemed that the standards had been reduced to help move them along. More than a few times, the kids advanced were clearly without all the learning that they needed to succeed. They earned their MD but could not cut it through the required 4 year residency program, could not pass their board exams, and were let go from the residency program. So they failed. Of course the college doesn't care because they already got their tuition money through the enormous student loans these young people had to take out. Heartbreaking. So not only are they failures at their chosen field, they have hundreds of thousands of dollars in student debt. It should be a crime.
Keep up the good work, y'all!
They do it in South Africa with BEE, they want equality in every industry and in universities, so they lower the requirements for certain groups and then you end up with unqualified people in positions they shouldn't be. That doesn't mean the intention is wrong, but it isn't working
M.I.T. university dropped the need for tests scores like 4 years ago and the new students (without an ACT or SAT score) did so poorly the university has now reinstated test score requirements.
this comment above, should be one of the first.
Good 👏 👏
Not surprising. I get so irritated with people who think test scores shouldn't matter. If you can't prove you know something, that's a problem. Grades don't prove what you know, in many cases. Grades can skew things a lot in your favor, or against you, while not reflecting what you know... because there is not a standardized way of evaluating for grades.
@@brn2863 test scores shouldn’t be the only determining factor. Especially considering that plenty of poor school districts don’t offer the advance classes needed to do well on these test.
@@dom7119 they never were the only determining factor. many people want them not to be considered at all though.
I love how Candace clap's back so quick. You can tell she's very passionate about her beliefs. Love Candace! :)
Jihadist are passionate about their beliefs too. There’s quite a bit more than passion that is needed for this conversation.
she wasn't listening but only wanted to hear her own opinion.
I LOVE Candace ❤️ She is so intelligent and articulate!!!
no one's in their right mind would ever mess around with candace 😂
These young men would benefit looking into Dr. Ben Carsons childhood story and what his mom did for him concerning his education. It is an amazing story and she is an outstanding wise women worthy of honor. If everyone had a mother like Ben Carson the world would be a better place.
Dr. Carson is an American success story!
Nope he a conservative 😂 not allowed
You mean the Ben Carson who believed Covid was a fraud until he actually caught it and died? That Ben Carson?
So true , Dr Ben Carson is truly awesome 👏🏼
What "they" have done to Ben Carson is truly appalling! They even removed his name from a high school!!!! Why!? It's so disheartening it makes me want to cry.
Candace Owens is more based than anyone I've ever seen. She speaks facts and never really puts race first. The world needs more people like her
Never put race first because She is pay by the white people that control the media😂
@@christododo2823 I'm sorry to say but she's States a lot more facts than you think name one thing she's lied about dude I'll wait. By the way my wife is African black.
❤❤❤❤ facts 🎉
Dang! she started out guns blazing!
I want her for president. She's got the intelligence. And the left can't say nothing about her race and sex
As a teacher, I can't stand when teachers get blamed for students performing poorly. This idea that it's the teacher's fault when a student doesn't achieve is often ridiculous. It absolutely is the teacher's responsibility to get to know their students and how they learn best, but at the end of the day, the teacher cannot learn for the students. Putting people in environments too far beyond their ability is setting them up for failure. For example, if you put me in a physics grad class, I would utterly fail. We shouldn't be giving anyone unfair advantages. What I think would be a good idea is for universities to judge applications based solely on grades and admission essays. Applications shouldn't even have names on them, but rather numbers. No mention of race or gender - these are vestiges from a time when the government wanted to know how many white men there were. Just straight admissions with numbers instead of names.
What a fascinating conversation. I’m a teacher, and I’ve loved reading the comments from other teachers. I work at a title 1 (low income) school. What I’ve experienced is if the parent(s) value education, the students perform better. Ive had plenty of single moms who work too much to help their kids at home, so they make sure their kids get help through other resources. Most schools offer tutoring opportunities either in person or virtually. I’m constantly pointing my students to resources they can access at home. At the same time, the number of “trainings” I have to sit through that explicitly tell us to lower expectations for minority students because they simply can’t meet those standards is staggering. The soft bigotry of low expectations is one of the greatest failings of our public school system.
You are absolutely right about parents needing to value education. Why are 1st and 2nd generation Asians absolutely crushing academics in the west? Parents. I'm Asian and let me tell you about my family. I have over 20 cousins. Every family gathering, my parents and aunts and uncles are competing with each other to see who has the most successful child. My parents would tell me, "Look at cousin Andy, he's a doctor now. Look at cousin Sandra, she got accepted to Harvard." Failure and being a nobody is not an option. Bringing honor to the family name is such a big deal. But somehow, Americans seem to look at that kind of competition as unnecessary stress or even abuse. When I was young, of course I hated it. I hated the pressure. I hated the constant comparison to my ultra successful cousins. But now I'm 37, and I'm totally thankful for all the success I have because I was pushed. I was expected to perform.
I was a poor white girl raised by an uneducated single mother in HUD housing. I’m getting my masters now after staying home to raise my four kids. The teachers at my school were the ones that helped me to see my capability. I went on to teach in the inner city and cared more than most of the parents and kids did about their success. Students need to be self-motivated but also externally encouraged. Thanks for this discussion.
Good for you,
and that is mentorship of any kind...somebody to steer you...i was poor from single mother with 8 kids...she was forced to stop working to stay home on welfare to get us back from welfare who had taken us in Australia..i had no mentor and was very bright but day dreamed my time away..
So in the end you knew what shitty circumstances were from experience and strived to help elevate other kids once you had the chance to show them there was a path forward... I mean the world needs more teachers with that dedication and understanding. That goes a long way toward fixing the root issues that brought about this conversation and laws in the 1st place. Thank you for your years of service.
Proud of you
@@mikedemike5393 I’m sorry you didn’t have a mentor. I had so many wonderful mentors! I was extremely luck and I appreciate the education I received. We used to call it “grooming your replacement.” The word groom had been used by mentors to describe how they trained certain people to rise up. as their mentor steps down.
I'm a 70 year old black man, and I enjoy hearing you young brother working this issue out. I believe you guys are also on the right track listening to Thomas Sowell, don't stop
Thomas Sowell is so bright I don't understand why there would be any reservation in listening to him.
As a proud American Thomas Sowell is a National treasure, I’m seriously Ben angry for years why this mans knowledge and wisdom isn’t front and center, I guess the truth hurts and many people aren’t ready
MAN! I'll tell yall my highschool experience was a nightmare! I went to a mostly white school for 2 years, then I moved and I went to a black highschool. Talk about day and night! I was bullied and attacked because I was pretty much the only white kid around! The teachers couldn't teach or get a word in. The principal did nothing to stop these kids! That was a horrible time in my life!
I hope things are better for you now.
@@Superduper666 oh yeah. I dropped out to get out of that enviroment.
Having debates and having opposing arguments is a good thing. Kudos to you young men.
Gentlemen, I watched 3 of your videos, and the most wonderful thing is that the five of you men are opening up to other perspectives and are having intellectual discussions. Would love to see y’all expand this into a community event for young men - where they too can have exposure to other points of view. God bless you my brothers!
Absolutely! What a great idea! Way to step up and create a needed space for conversations!
This comment should have more likes. Great idea.
Excellent idea!
Yes
Fantastic idea.
You have to remember what Amala said regarding the teaching of people to be "less white". Many of those things that they say come from "whiteness" were things like 1. perfectionism (caring to a high degree to do the best possible) 2. punctuality (being on time and prepared for things consistently) 3. Focus on achievement (having a desire and drive to improve 4. Productivity (making good use of time and resources to produce results
If minority groups are being taught this kind of thinking - to avoid those "white" things, they will ultimately have worse performance on academic and professional pursuits.
It is not because they are black or minorities that they do poorly - they are literally taught and trained to do poorly. If their parents don't step in and correct these bad teachings from the school, the children will do poorly in school. If parents are convinced they can trust the school to teach their children good values - better than the parent can - the children are going to do poorly in school and life.
Parental involvement is a HUGE factor in success. The parents who are pushing their kids toward the values wrongly described as "whiteness" values, are the parents who have children who do well in school and have good character values (on average) in almost all life pursuits.
The parents who are not involved (whether due to time constraints, overly trusting in public schools and government to teach their children, or apathy_ are the parents who, on average, have children who do poorly in school and in life pursuits - then blame that on other people and continue the cycle.
Parent involvement in a childs life is the ultimate thing that can set them up for success academically, professionally, and socially. NO matter what color or background, economic situation or living condition.
Also, Asians are pushing these values the most and outperform even whites! Here's my original comment above: Candace, Danielle, Amala, and Tyler were on the money! Success comes down to Parenting/Mindset/Culture (PMC) that places value on education and hard work. Some of the most well funded schools are in the inner city, and still are getting bad results as Candace mentioned. Affirmative action results in mismatch (As several of them mentioned and referenced Dr. Thomas Sowell). It's also unfair to one particular group- Asians. They are very inconvenient to the left, because despite being minorities as well- they tend to succeed because of the same PMC/valuing education factor that I mentioned above. In fact, I went to an elite public high school in NYC, where the only criteria for getting in was performance on an entrance exam taken in 8th grade (similar in nature to the SAT but 8th grade level). The demographics of the school was approximately 60% Asian, 25% white (mostly Jewish), 10% Hispanic (mostly South American), and 5% Black (Mostly African/Carribean). The students at the school, including my friends- we all had one thing in common, strong PMC and valuing education. The best and brightest got in, no matter what race/gender/religion and so on. Btw, our idiot ex mayor Deblasio- tried to get rid of the test because the students at these elite schools "didn't reflect the demographics of the city". Thanks to students, parents, alumni petitions, it didn't happen. When we get to the root cause which is PMC/Valuing education, the problem gets fixed!
True, true and true.
THIS!!!!
This ideology makes me so angry because ultimately it’s teaching kids to FAIL and not teaching them the habits of success that ALL cultures follow. These ideologues who work at schools and colleges will make damn sure their own children work hard and get everything done on time. They are the biggest hypocrites going. I taught my kids to read at home before they even went to school and that is what my mom did for me. I was reading library books before Kindergarten. She was from a working-class background and wanted to make sure I learnt the habits of her own success. It’s upper class people making sure working class people stay in their place and their own kids won’t have any competition. Just total BS.
It reminds me of people saying “just change the beauty standards” because they want to eat cheeseburgers and never exercise.
Dr Phil was working HARD not to get cancelled 😂😂
I love that young men are talking about this. I've been a teacher for 3 decades. I meet my students where they're at academically and take them as far as I possibly can with the short time I have them. And when parents help me teach that education is crucial, there are no limits!
Candace nails it completely. I'm mixed race but I'm supposed to list Native American and not white. I always pick other and write mixed if I can. Skills and talent should be what gets people in everything.
I agree with you on mixed race as Im half-Irish half Hispanic.I hate those ethnicity questions and wish. There was one that just said American because that's what us mixed race people truly are.We are the epitome of being what an american is.
It should be, but that needs to be enforced on those in the hiring positions.
You don't have to list Native American if you don't want to, but if you don't, you are purposely turning away funding. The more minorities that live in a community, especially Native Americans, the more funding it receives from federal government according to Census data. If you are Native American, are you a member of a federally recognized Tribe? My aunt and uncle are members of the Muckleshoot Tribe. Even though they don't live on the reservation but are members, they receive annual profit subsidies from casino and the Amphitheatre. That might be something you should look into that.
I always label myself as Native American - non white . I’ve got more Cherokee in me than Liz warren .
@@davidchoate512 I don't know what that even means! Lmao
I was a single mom raising my daughter, but I never taught her to be a victim but victor! I made sure she makes her school as a priority. I was doing my RN program and on food stamps when she was in elementary school. I taught her how to read and be competitive when it comes to sports and classes/subjects. Now she is 19 paying for her own college, working at Home Depot and playing competitive tennis. Education is up to parents to embed on their young ones. Teachers should just be treated as a plus but not to replace parent's duties. Parents also should be choosy on who the kid should be hanging out with, and even restrict the social media they are putting themselves on. Race is nothing but a color, my daughter is brown and asked me why she couldn't be white like her classmates. I cut that out real quick! I raised her to have great skills and qualities that I know will help her be successful rather than depend on what other people's think due to her color. I know she will get her goals in life not because of affirmative action but her quality to compete with others whatever color they maybe.
u did amazingly
Love it!
Respect to you
what good will all your great prepping do when your daughter is denied employment by a racist white boy or girl even though she's qualified they will have her working under an autistic white manager before they make her manager y'all fail to realize the system we are under our best option is to teach our kids to be entrepreneurs we will never reach our heights in a white run society it's not complaining it's just reality history shows and today's conditions of black community shows there is not an equal playing field
Bravo !!! 👏 👏
I am soooo proud of the people speaking out against racism. ALL OF YOU!
I love to sit there and watch you guys work out the world problems, in a mature, awesome form !!!! It gives me hope for the next generation of all young men. Keep up the good work.
You young men are a wonderful example of what people should be doing. You are listening to both sides of the argument and making an informed decision.I love the discussion you have . I have so much respect for you.
It was great to watch this dialogue.
I agree. This is the best channel.
100%. I really enjoy all their videos. Zero judgement between them, always respectful when they disagree/correct someone, and they aren’t afraid of saying they don’t know something.
As a white man who had a rough childhood and no parents, I agree with the takes on merit. If you're not determined to succeed despite the struggles you go through, no one else will do it for you. Failure is always guaranteed unless you change the probabilities that you can work with. Let's stop with weakness and embrace strength, giving up is a loser's point of view.
The mixed professor guy was 100% patronizing...and against one of his own races. He doesn't even see it.
I agree with you to an extent but let’s also not act like every student is the same or can overcome obstacles because you were able to. Some of the same students that have failed and “didn’t care” might have succeeded and had a great career if they had someone in their life be it better teachers, parent, mentor that pushed them to be better and helped them succeed.
I encourage you to research more into a child's brain. A child's future and the person they become depends heavily on there home. There will always be a few that make it out but majority won't especially if they have issues like dyslexia adhd add etc. For example so many people think k dyslexia just means they can't read but it's so much more than that and without the proper help and education they are bound to fail and have less confidence in their adult life
@@pgpro8691 I never said I was able to, I think you failed to capture my take on the matter. Inspirations are a form of encouraging people through guidance and I feel like for someone to feel more relatable they need to find someone who can fit in their description but was never able to overcome their problems and that's where people like you and me can make a small but impactful difference overall.
@@shanebell5222 You wouldn't know for certain because you only read what I type. You never saw me or know anything about my life situation.
Appreciate that you guys are having an open conversation on the subject. Thought I’d share my opinion based on my experiences. I’m 37 years old, I’m bi-racial and was raised in a single-parent household by choice at the time and we were low income. We got by with help from family, friends, and my mother’s work ethic.
My mother was a hair stylist, worked ridiculous hours and but she also wasn’t great with money. I barely graduated from high school, and it was mostly because of lack of direction, lack of interest and prioritizing. It didn’t affect me until I noticed experiences I was missing out on. College wasn’t it for me because I didn’t see the value in building day to day, instead living day to day.
I was smart enough to surround myself with great friends and people I wanted to be like as a young adult. I’m a hard worker, learn from every experience I have, I’m respected and looked at as a very wise man for my age and an intellectual by the people I have dealings with. The skills that have taken me the furthest in life are my contrast thinking and my ability to communicate and understand people.
I was very good at my last career of 12 years and have just started a new one due to what the ceiling looked along with what I wanted the second half of my life to look like. In hindsight, I can say that it wasn’t anything that the system wasn’t giving me. It was that I didn’t know any better because of prioritizing, I didn’t have the structure and I didn’t have anyone there to express how fun and gratifying SUCCESS is versus how fun having fun is.
Keep up the good work fellas.
I've been watching this channel for awhile now and I have to say that this is my favorite video. I don't know if you all have ever considered it, but you should be doing podcast's on these heavier topics. I could feel the passion you all have in hashing it out amongst yourselves and trying to iron out what each one of you see's as a wrinkle in the problems we face as a nation and world. The best debates are when it's real, raw, and off the cuff. I can't tell you how much I would love listening to all of you discuss things longform.
Keep your heads up and thank you for the great content.
Sometimes I worry about our future based on the negative images in current media. I watch you guys and think "We will be OK, these guys will figure it out." Keep working at it, you guys are great.
Right...I subscribed to their channel immediately. You always hear, "we need to have a conversation," well, they're having it and it's real!!
I think the same thing with these guys. They give me hope the younger generation is gonna figure it out.
@@arickhoops it's nice to think that they will figure it out because we want to have an optimistic view of our children, especially for when we are gone and they are left alone without us.
The Bible gives us the hope of the paradise Earth.
Psalm 37: 9-11,22,29,34)
People just aren't paying attention to the Bible anymore not the actual scriptures.
There are indeed religious people, but what do they actually base their current beliefs on. Is it scripture or what their Minister teaches?
The Future for All mankind is GOD'S KINGDOM COMING (Matthew 6:10) that is what everyone should be looking for, but very few are.😢
"These guys will figure it out." No pressure! ;)
@@brn2863 They'll save all of us
Dr Phil spoke slowwwly, sounding like he had to be extra careful in how he phrased things so that he would not get backlash.
Yeah most people won't even talk about this stuff because one mistaken phrase and you're cancelled.
He's a joke.... everything he says is basically common sense, and not profoundly intelligent.
It’s pathetic
Blacklash is the term….😊
The point he made about professors needing to “grease the wheels” when you are learning something new, is exactly the point.
K-12 school is supposed to already have prepared you to learn that new information without anyone holding your hand.
College is all about what you are willing to put into it.
It’s no skin off their nose if you end up on academic probation or dropping out. Show up, don’t show up, they don’t care.
They expect you to walk into college prepared, disciplined and determined to succeed.
Only YOU have the power to put enough of yourself into your education to make it pay off for you.
I love how thrse 4 young men can listen to these controversial topics so well. You all are a huge example to the youth!
Dude on the right was spot on with this one. My school just had whiteboards and textbooks under the desk. Thats all you need to learn if you want to. You don't need chromebooks and all that fancy stuff, it doesnt automatically make you learn better. Like the guy on the right said, most of us would just be watching CZcams in class. Also its pretty common, at least when I was in school, that studying and doing well wasn't the "cool thing". Goofing off and skipping class was. And those of us who played sports were pushed a little harder and caught breaks with grades bc we were on the team.
Also, someone said it in the video. But there was definitely the "im gonna fail anyway" mentality going on, and of course that effected kids whose parents couldn't/wouldn't help them with homework and teach them.
School funding can only do so much. People gotta want to learn. The more people around you who don't care about learning and want to just goof off makes you want to do the same. This is why its more obvious in low income school districts, because of the lack of help from parents and lack of seeing first-hand what school can do for you.
Remember an exception doesn't change the rule.
All starts at home. Like that saying, monkey see, monkey do? Parents have to be good examples for their kids. We will see parents on tiktok acting like fools just for money, chasing that next paycheck. That's what our kids are seeing. Or that dad isn't there, mom isn't there, my mom said I'd be a loser, my dad said I'd be a good-for-nothing bum, kids REALLY listen to that shit. How can we give hope to our kids when we don't even have hope? When we're just chasing after that paycheck and the next guilty pleasure? There's no self-discipline in parents, and in turn, their children. We're teaching them to get their next 'high', whether it be doing drugs or having sex with any John or She-John or gorging ourselves on heart-attacking, 'finger looking good food'. We are going to fall like Rome, and it's probably for the best at this point.
Fancy stuff? Lol you mean technology? Meanwhile Asian countries have preschoolers who can build robots. Quit dumbing our kids down. Our kids are failing at every metric as a country. No one should be talking about social justice or trans activism when the majority of high schoolers can't read. Every school needs to be focused on what matters.
There are many poor countries whose students do way better than the United States. Like the one gentleman said. All you need for most subjects is a teacher, some books, and students who will learn. It's not funding, it's culture.
I honestly appreciate your dialogue after the video more than just the reaction of the video. I am so glad to hear all of your opinions. This to me gets more to the point of the issues than 99% of the media out there
“You have to have a PHD to not understand that” 🤣
Dr Phil couldn’t spit it out because he was trying to choose his words very carefully. He doesn’t want to get canceled.
I thought the same 🤣
@@joebauers1467 I think dr Phil has peaked but he is a coward for not speaking out, for me a real gay man I have no choice but to speak out against the gender cult nightmare because it's full of real homophobic behaviour against gay/lesbian and we want nothing to do with flags pride ect.
It was pretty funny watching him stutter like a feeb
Funny! I was assuming he has early onset dementia... but I believe you may be right, Dr Phil knows Candice and co was right but is a coward.
@@bravedog5704 yes we have to stop this gender nightmare and more need to stop being a coward welcome to the revolution of truth.
The guy with the light green pants is speaking facts! It’s sad that the rest tried to silence the truth.
Yep. He knows its cultural. They weren't tryna hear it
MAGA and truth doesn't really go hand in hand, considering the man who stole the slogan from Reagan couldn't stay faithful to any of his wives.
Absolutely a cultural not a race thing. Some of the brightest students I’ve encountered are African African-Americans.
Yup its definitely a "Black American" thing rather than the race. Whenever I encounter those who came from Africa, they usually have a healthy mindset and never clinging on victimhood
I agreed with him when he first started talking, but he seemed a little ignorant toward the end & the other guys were taking him to school.
Excellent conversation/discussion - thanks so much for sharing it with us!
I wrote a college paper about affirmative action and reverse discrimination in 1998. I’m so glad it’s finally recognized by people. About damn time!
My mom was single, on welfare and was in HUD housing for the later half of my childhood, and this was actually a step up. The first half of my childhood I was school to school, never in the same school for more than a year, and sometimes less. The schools in the neighborhoods we could afford to live were never well funded or a "happy" place to be. I was able to do ok in HS because of the HUD housing and being able to go to the same HS for four years. after that I went to a JC and then to a State Uni. I worked hard, and earned my degree. I had no advantages, I had no generational wealth and to this day I know I got to where I am today based solely the grades I got and the work I did, because I was a dirt poor and poorly educated white kid with roadblocks and systems all set up against my success (everyone hates poor people, especially cops). Those leftists can say I had some kind of privilege but they don't know me or what I had to go through. The only privilege I ever had was between my ears, not on my skin. I love watching y'alls political videos because of your discussions with different points of view and real talk, it's really good. We are all a lot more alike than power wants us to think we are.
Thanks for sharing your story!
Take out the HUD housing and throw in abuse and a trailer and this is my story.
Yes but the problem boils down to poverty and how the system is set up to make you need gov assistance. Another unfortunate problem is parents addicted or not being able to take care of the child and still keeps the child.but if you work as hard as you can and are still poor its just slavery at its biggest form. Poverty is slavery.
@@Antrezz-gg4wx really? Most people can rise above their "poor" situation if they really want to. Notice I didn't say all but it's not impossible or even improbable. Whoever posted originally is an example. It's sure not easy though.
Thanks for sharing. I think they should substitute poor for whatever race they are talking about and they would only find minor differences.
I'm native american, I was the first in my family to go to college and graduate. It was my parents encouragement that was my drive through school. Family plays a big part.
I love watching these discussions. As a retired educator it is amazing hearing your perspectives.
"You have to have a Phd in order not to be able to see this." !!!! She nailed it!!!!
Keep in mind that many of these failing inner city schools are funded at higher rates than the average to try to combat their failures but it doesn’t work. They can’t make the kids study and school boards are very corrupt today and more concerned with pushing wokism than educating children. Also many of the kids just don’t care about studies and no amount of funding can change that behavior the parents and as you guys said the subculture would have to change for many students to change their outlook on education. Great review guys and I respect your honesty and the intelligent discussions you have on these topics.
What is wokeism? define it and lets debate it
@@Peopleofthesun386 What is a WOMAN?
@@onestgermain A woman is an adult female.......Now what??? I mean I am sure you have never interacted with one but how is that relevant here
@@Peopleofthesun386 well woke used to be enlightened to uncommon knowledge/wisdom. Not being a sleep on certain subjects. Now woke engulfs leftist propaganda under the veil of progressivism, inclusiveness and tolerance. Well tolerant and inclusive when you agree with them😅
This is complete and total bullshit, where are you pulling these numbers from? I have spent over 40 years in an Inner city. Talk to me.
They're just as much white as they are black but choose to only identify as black. For the exact reasoning Candace is saying. I absolutely LOVE her.
I been saying that majority ppl are mixed, even if your parents both have the same highest ethnicity or color. It's someone in your family that been mixed. Eventually the mixed race ppl like in my family will just say they blk or just identify with the dominant color.
So disrespectful to your other parent. Lol those people are lost (Colin kap, Rachel dolz)
@@DoubleBeezy No such thing as a dominant color WTF are you talking about?
she pushes white supremacist propaganda to make a buck she is nothing but a house N.....
@@Peopleofthesun386 Hes' obviuosly talking about which color is majority of the population.
Candace is wow. Awesome lady❤
I am a white old lady and stumbling upon this video made my day. Love the fact that you are thoughtfully listening to both sides. The four of you will make it just fine in life.
I'm SO GLAD I've found people that are sane and can have a conversation. Can have disagreements and not start a fight or hate each other. Especially around my age too its hard to find.
If you're so surprised to see this... then maybe YOU are the problem
The fact he couldn't just say yes shows everything.
I know. I thought the exact same thing. Terrible. That man was a big phoney.
Literally every politician. None can ever say yes/no, always gotta jump through hoops and give a non answer
THIS WOMAN SPEAKS FACTS!! love her PASSION!
I’m a minority and I can say this with extreme confidence, I’m interviewing any surgeon before any operation I have!
I wish I could interview pilots before I flew too…
We need to get back to a place where the currently rare function of COMMON sense reigned supreme over any decision that affected large swaths of the population. I need merited qualifications not how naturally intersectional an individual might be to determine preparedness.
Likewise, here in Cali, as we approach election season, I urge everyone to think about who they are going to vote for… don’t make the mistake of continuing to vote for the same party we always have knowing that if they wanted to fix our issues, they already would have! Yes, it really is that simple. I’d rather have a person new to politics than a life long politician who is only playing the game to get wealthy like most here in this state. ❤❤❤
I'm white British. I attended high school in the 2000s. I was a victim of racism from black students on countless occasions. Each time I tried to deal with it through teachers, I was told to let it go because taking it further could possibly result in me being accused of racism myself.
I know a lot a black racist people , they don't do nothing with their life but it's always the falt of white people
It’s even worse now.
disgusting
The biggest problem with our education system is the fact that they are required to teach a ton of stuff that really has no consequence. Teachers are "forced" to rush through subjects to meet their performance expectations, meaning they have less time to actually go deep on a subject. Then you have fewer teachers, meaning that there are more students per teacher and even less time to help individual students. It's a HORRIBLE situation. And money is not the sole fix.
Don't want the plebs well educated and organized. That never ends well for the elites.
I love you guys. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on important subject matters. You have no idea how much of an impact you have
You guys looking at both sides and finding common ground with your fellow Americans make me proud to continue fighting for our Country. I get up in Ahoskie with a majority black community and went to 3 different elementary schools. Rich Square Creecy had a good teacher that left the profession crying due to how the childeren treated her, but Ahoskie elementary and Willis Hare Elementary were great. I've had good and bad teachers and deffinatly had no issue with race in the 90's. Those kids that put forth the effort made it in life that put the effort in, and kids would help each other out if they were struggling with a teacher that didn't explain the information properly. I do agree that it is multiple factors that contribute to the kids future, the biggest factor was thier parents followed by the teachers explaining the knowledge alongside the people trying to learn the information.
I tell ya, these days, if my child wasn't academically inclined, I'd push them towards a good vocational school. There's nothin wrong with working with your hands. Usually a skill that will ALWAYS be in demand.
I went to school in East Cleveland and I can tell you that the school had “special “ classes for kids who showed an interest in school. The regular classes were INSANE bc of the fighting. We couldn’t get through one class period without some disruption. It goes back to the culture.
Tough school system! Shaw HS vetted students to make certain they were dedicated to learning and going onto college( many Ivy League)
That’s crazy I went to school in a normal country so we had regular classes and a special needs class for those falling behind. Last years even saw less classes to take time off and relax for staying around but never would have thought a special class for those wanting to learn haha
Highly entertaining and thought provoking!!! Keep it up genetlemen!!!
I've watched a few of your guys' react videos now. You guys are having good conversations and working through problems using your experience and developing critical thinking as individuals. You guys challenge one another and from video to video some of you are more passionate and vocal on a given topic. Its encouraging to see young people mentally engaged and not taking difficult topics like this for granted based on pre-conceived notions. Keep it up.
Finally somebody has the guts to speak the truth.....we are tired of this bs!!!!!
Yall tired of everything,shut up
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Candace Owens can be pretty sharp. I don’t watch her all the time because she also covers celebrity and entertainment news that aren’t topics that catch my ear.
She’s great though, and tough as nails, smart and articulate.
Dailywire+ gets a bad wrap from people who don’t actually watch Dailywire+.
The only honest complaints I’ve heard from people who’ve watched any of the Dailywire+ content is - “I don’t care, this stuff doesn’t interest me” and “Ben Shapiro kinda talks too fast and I find it hard to follow.”
If the only complaints about the media company Candace Owens belongs to are basically, “meh not interested” and that one host is too good at his job - then you can’t complain about that.
Dailywire+ does push “conservative”, “politically right” a little bit of “religious right” with a couple hosts - they always back up their stories and comments in fact, current events and common sense realistic speaking points.
Clearly I’m a bit of a Dailywire+ fanboy, but its taken a few years to fully understand the personalities and biases of each of their hosts, so when you do hear a talking point from them, you eventually get a better idea of both what they mean and why they said it.
I was pro-choice all the way into my late 30’s but am pro-life in opinion now because I actually listened to why people have pro-life beliefs.
I don’t expect everyone to think the same, but I’d hope most people try to be decent people and life to a rule of honesty and strive for civility and truth.
@@drok6692 right a book next time
@@drok6692 write
This was one of the best discussions I've heard in a long time. You guys are so open minded and capable of critical thinking. This gives me hope for future generations! Good job, guys!
It’s pretty obvious who is racist when you look at who benefits and who is practically enslaved to their ideology with a distant for discussing controversial topics
Candice carpet bombing like a B-52 is pretty epic!
I love watching you guys debate each other. You young men give me hope for the future. Keep up the great work gentlemen.
Throwing money at the problem never solves it.
This can't be fixed. Especially while the main driving forces are working overtime to make it worse.
This.
Teachers Union
Yep, they're called Democrats. They rely heavily on low information voters. It's also why they want to lower the voting age to 16
I believe it can be fixed. It'll just take time and effort.
@@cmontygman effort... The enemy of a feminist. So...
I love the fact that y’all can have the conversation and disagree and hash everything out we need more of this
I think you guys made a good point. A student no matter their skin color will achieve success in school if they care and if their family and friends encourage them on the right path and also lead my example.
It is refreshing to see things from a different perspective. Listening to all of you has been eye opening and gives me hope for our children. We are never to old to learn. Speaking out as well as listening to one another will resolve many issues we face today. You are doing a great job , thank you. We have been programed to think and pass judgement . Now we can see more clearly and form our own opinions based on facts rather than assuming half truths and lies we have been falsely taught throughout our lives.
Candice Owens will be a household name in the near future. She is one sharp young lady.
Same issue I have with my daughter - Native American/Caucasian. So what? Usually can't pick both. Why do we have to pick. She's who she is.
You're complaining about the result of a white supremacist idea, that being the "one drop rule".. You're then siding with Owens, someone who repeats white supremacist nonsense.. wtf are you doing?
Just subscribed to your channel after watching this video and the New York Mayor video. I love watching your reactions to music, and now seeing you all discuss these prominent issues with common sense no matter the race is so refreshing. Side note; the male doctor who stated he is half white and half black that chooses to mark black on his race box makes me wonder why? If he is half of each race? Choosing either would be half correct. I think those boxes and choices are so antiquated considering the amount of people who are mixed in todays society.
Enjoyed listening to your conversation.
I am part Mexican and part white. I worked for the state of Michigan and a year or so after I started my job they were layoffs, because I was low seniority I was laid off. The thing was, my office desperately needed a Spanish-speaking worker because we had a large population of Spanish speaking clients. By the way I worked for the department of social services. My office tried desperately to get me back explaining the need for a Spanish-speaking case worker. The state denied my call back until… One supervisor suggested they try affirmative action because my mother is Mexican. Well guess what, they called me back. It didn’t matter how great the need was there was no way they were going to recall some white girl but thankfully I’m part Mexican and I return to my job. Fortunately, I was a great worker. My Mexican side of the family, my grandparents, aunts, uncles and my mother who were all former migrant workers taught me that I must work hard and go above and beyond what was asked of me and to always do my best in order to get ahead. Yes those traits were pushed upon me by my Mexican family not my white. But I do wanna say my father was a great example also as he had two jobs, five children, and went to school to become a State police officer. So I guess I had the best of both worlds.
It sounds more like those values were pushed up on you by both sides.
My experience with affirmative action: my poor white best friend who worked his ass off in school and got a better grades in harder classes got denied at a prestigious school while the half black, half Mexican girl I dated whose family had more money and got lower grades in lower classes got in.
That shit ruined my view of affirmation action.
Keep up the good work gentlemen, you are truly helping the world with your inquisitive and level headed approach. 🙏💪
School admission isn’t just based off merit and blaming him not getting in on affirmative action is doing him a disservice.
@@dom7119 sure....sure🙄yet flip races then say that again with trying to reason it out. 🤔Smh.
@@dom7119 certain races have lower requirements than whites…I worked in high school guidance offices & there are printed requirements BY RACE for every university.
@@dom7119 If its not based on merit then its based on bullshit. So much for Martin Luther King and his "I had a dream speech" and judging content and not character.
Don't believe everything that you hear. Even if this were true, do you think that it was race and not money? I seems to me that there was a big scandal recently in which rich white parents paid a huge amount of money and went to jail for the bribes they paid to get their entitled kids into college. When I showed up at my university in the 1970's, the few black students who arrived before me said that some of them had to come in for interviews (big afros scared some people). College applications used to require that the applicant submit a photo. That is one way minorities were rejected right away, regardless of grades. Colleges are not just full of "A" students. There are plenty of "B" and "C" students as well. (Just Ask President George W. Bush). Affirmation action is about opportunity. It does not promise that every student is going to do great things. Before affirmative action, my University was all white. When I applied and was accepted, my University could not hold my race against me as they had historically for other Black students, nor did they ask for a picture with my application. I attended a good school and graduated! Don't even get me started with the Legacy students who were allowed in regardless just because they were a Legacy! Furthermore, stop assuming that all the minority students are inferior. If someone attends a school that has over 15,000 students, and the school sets aside 100 slots for minorities, get over it! All students still have to perform. College is an excellent time to meet and get to know people from diverse backgrounds. That is part of what college is all about. What an opportunity to graduate as a more well rounded person!
1st off - I've been watching you guys a bunch lately. so refreshing. even when you disagree you keep a civil discourse and that's so important. Don't always have to agree, but it's always good to listen to other opinions. most "open minded" people are the most closed off. so good on you guys and keep it up.
2. I am so sad for the American school system that in 2023 they're still speaking in terms of "black school/white school". If there's racism in America, that's where it is. I actually think it's half systematic racism (Old racist white guys making decisions) and half black leadership, that lays blame and looks for enemies, instead of working together.
3. My conclusion from these videos - any politician that doesn't speak about the education system and their remedies for it, should NEVER get your vote. especially in black neighborhoods, communities and areas.
The name of the video mentions Candace but I hope people pay attention to Amala Ekpunobi (The young woman with dreads). She is super smart, used to be very "liberal", now-she's a little too right IMHO, but if you're a critical thinker, she's amazing to listen to
The entire school system, up to a federal level, is in need of an overhaul. In Canada too. As I'm getting older. I've been really looking into the core of the issues I see. It all starts with elementary school and focusing on getting kids excited to learn new things and to keep on learning, wanting to learn as an adult. I've been learning so much watching you guys. And debating topics that many are afraid to. I appreciate you guys and the work you are doing. Thank you.
I am a senior citizen. I am so hopeful for the future after hearing you young gentlemen discuss a topic as heavy as this. Your parents and grand parents should be very proud of you.
Absolutely!
Hopefully their parents and grandparents would be disgusted by them giving any time to Owens.
@Weazla Exactly...she leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
All 5 of these gentlemen are so mature for their age. I learn so much from them.
theyre all adults. Theyre just acting how they should for their age XD
@@Pyramanager How young men and women “Should” act and how they Do act are two different things
FREEDOM WRITERS. It is community, family, school and teachers. All need to push to the same goal.
We need to spread these federal departments around the country - draining the swamp.
Candace is fiercely truthful and fearless! 💕 her!
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I see this example playing out in my own family. I have 2 siblings- they both have 3 kids each, all of similar age. One sibling is single mom, and she doesn’t seem to put any emphasis on whether or not the kids do well in school. She’s the type that blames the teacher. Not surprisingly, her kids aren’t that intelligent and probably won’t end up all that successful even though they were born healthy with good aptitude. Her kids have no desire to learn, it’s sad.
The other sibling is married and involved daily in her children’s lives. She emphasizes education and extra leaning activities (sports, dance, etc). She emphasizes family time. Her kids are ALL in gifted programs.
It’s all about culture and family environment.
Gives me such good hope that I see people having intelligent conversations good content congratulations fellas
I’m so glad young black men are having this kind of conversation. More of this is needed in the black community.
You young men are wiser than most people at your age. To be young and still be able to comprehend that you actually don't know it all, is a sign of that wisdom. I applaud your curiosity and willingness to speak on tough topics in this day and age.
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Dude on the right is speaking facts an dude in the middle took it personally 😂 🤣
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When I started 1st grade in 1974, I was reading on a 3rd grade reading level. I have a cousin who was reading on a 6th grade reading level in 1st grade. I sincerely believe education begins in the home.
You kiddos are Valuable. I hope your moms are around to be proud.
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When that guy talks it just a word salad,
A whole bunch of words that don’t make sense. Ahahaha. 🤦♀️
Or mean anything.
He is obviously a professor of fake science "studies".
Wait…which guy??
The professor guy
I’ve always thought it was an insult to the black community. I love Candace Owens! Girl is on fire 🔥
Lowering academic standards is also an insult to every other race. Like, screw my academic efforts, right? I worked hard to compete in school. Why do underachieving students get better school options because of their melanin?
These so called Professors are truly ignorant
This is my first time watching your channel it’s oddly fascinating to see you five intently listening to something. I keep looking at y’all eyes and you are all paying attention. Oddly enjoyable 😂
I’m not going to lie. As an Asian American, I do question every black student on an elite university campus if they made it there based on merit or on sympathy. I would hate to be in that position where people think I got in because someone felt bad for me.
As a Asian you are viewed the same as white by Collage Administration. They are looking for black first, then NA, then Hispanic but Asian and whites and males are dead last.
It’s so they can feel good about themselves, they do not care at all about long term consequences or long term success it’s just admitting not graduating rates.
This right here, it actually really hurt the students
Brave to be that honest. Respect.
And this is why black people need not take on the issues and concerns of other “minority groups”
That’s just racist. You question “every” black student on an elite campus. Not all Asians are smart BTW.
I was born in the 60s my favorite teacher was in middle school and she was a black teacher her name was Miss Parker!!! We all loved her she thought and she thought well I’m gonna count now thank you Miss Parker!! Because trust me I didn’t come from a family that studied with me at home or even a family that was home with me when I got out of school!!
Love this discussion. All learning situations are different. I was told the only way I would attend college would be under athletic scholarship. Note. I was told by my father I was to ignorant to attend because I was not intelligent enough
You guys are legit and give me hope for the future. Keep an open mind and don't let anyone tell you how to think. Make your own choices! Excellent content!
Keep an open mind, by reacting to ultra conservative, self-hating, race hustling shit by candice owens and thomas sowell to appeal to racist as white people on youtube?
They are completely close minded, letting you idiots tell them what to watch and think.. why haven’t they watched anyone who's left wing?
With regard to haveing a teacher who you can "relate" to because they also came from an "underpriveleged" background, i call BS.
When I was a kid, I NEVERRRR thought about whether or not my teacher was also poor, or came from my neighborhood. I just wanted THE BEST teacher who could help me understand the subject (math). I Thank GOD for Mrs Jacobs (white teacher), and I never knew anything much about her background other than she was from Hawaii.
How about encouraging individuals to STOP participating in selecting any boxes that continue to indicate "optional" and make this area go away altogether?! It's always going to be exclusionary, or else it wouldn't be there.
As someone who lives in Oklahoma, our test scores are horrible ASF ....
This wasn't a debate...Candace n Amala demolished him😂😂😂😂