As an American whos actually learned world history, yes, yes you did. Tbh there wasn't a single country in that war that didn't do something shitty, it just happens that Germany was the shittiest of all.
@@BerdersnerI think the allied forces did it for strategic reasons the Germans committed genocide for hatred and to oppress. It wasn’t like killing the Jews made it easier to beat other European countries. However, the us for example bombed Hiroshima to force the Japanese to surrender.
Right? No country in the world is innocent of committing atrocities against their own or other nationalities. Especially if they happen to be at war with another country.
Ignorance has no effect on preventing/facilitating atrocity- the government and big business contractors determine that. War =money. These are just blatant lies spewed so Palestinians can pretend to be victims of a war they started.
Yes, more 12yr Olds have a better grasp than you also. It wasn't just Britain vs Germany. It was the Allies vs Germany and those numbers show that he is wrong.
People dont understand the scale of modern war at all. 600 thousand died in the civil war. From muskets, knives, and fucking cannonballs. With a fucking population thats a joke compared to todays. And yet these days, with hundreds of millions of more people and weapons capable of killing millions in 3 seconds, 10,000 people die and they wanna call it ethnic cleansing. If war was conducted like it used to be, the death toll in palestine would be pushing 1-1.5million by now.
boo hoo fella go read your quran where it is perfectly said that your god wants to kill everyone who doesn't follow allah because allah is the greatest god in the universe , thats a more of war crime than unintentional bombing@@muhammadhussam9958
@@GorenGuangI have proved him wrong MANY times😂 And here, I have proved you wrong. If you're gona publicise a video, better get your facts straight and provide evidence or else I'm going to debunk and shame you ;)
@@liquifyist 😂 Out of all the masterful debaters, political commentators, influential figures that have all tried to prove him wrong yet failed, some random nobody probably sitting on the couch like you claims to have proved him wrong?! This dude could tear your whole ego and argument down while daydreaming yet some couch potato sitting on the couch eating lays chips in your imaginative futile mind think you can slide with this dude in a debate?? You’re delusional, you’re delusional you can’t prove shit wrong 😂
@@liquifyist you haven't proved anyone wrong bro. And if you watch the whole video, he debates anyone in the audience who is picked by the lady in the back wearing green.
What is the point of teaching and history? That means teaching them facts, and these theirs. They don't want to know facts. They just want to know their narrative. Because they're always right even when they're always wrong.
So Oxford just lost a big chunk of reputation because she doesnt know history? Or because she knows a history written by the victor? This university is supposed to be one of the best in the world. . .
Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless. 😊😊😊😊
happens a lot these days but to debate someone like, well, literally ANYONE from the daily wire, you better bring your AAA Game! You better have the facts! Their team is untouchable, ive never seen ANY of them lose a single argument. not even close. They btfo lefties like taking candy from a baby.
Yeah I feel that she should have mentioned the Russian casualties in comparison to Germans and Chinese Casualties in comparison to Japanese,that would have shut Ben logic there and then.
@@ZamanKhan-gw8bq I don't think I understand what you're trying to say. Ben was making a specific analogy and asking the student to take a moral stance on that specific, analogous situation. Reasoned, courteous, logical debate would require (1) a response to his direct question and/or a counterargument containing historical facts and ethical principles attempting to show the analogy was flawed; or (2) a concession that Ben had made a good point. Possibly followed by some other type of argument or claim, hopefully with more evidentiary basis and historical context than the first one. Pointing out the differences in casualties between Russian vs. German or Chinese vs. Japanese casualties wouldn't do any of those things.
@@Rachel-en5nt Ben took Gemran and Brits casualties example and said that since Germans were killed more in comparison that does not mean Germans were right but on the contrary Chinese casualties were more in comparison to Japanese and Chinese were right and being oppressed by Imperial Japanese forces another example was Russians had more casualties as compared to Germans and Russians were right as gwrmams invaded their land. Let's go further jewsih partisan faced more casualties against Nazis and they were right since they were fighting the oppressor. Ben just took one example of world war out of context and tried to fit it in Palestinian conflict where as the above examples also fit in the same scenario.
@@Rachel-en5nt Ben's whole argument isn't even analogous to this situation. Britain was killing enemy combatants while Israel is killing civilians . We're not talking about a small disparity here. Less than 20 combatants killed and over 8 thousands innocent civilians murdered. Anyone standing up for that is sick . If anything America should mind their own business and stay out of this conflict. If America wasn't sending billions of dollars, weapons and training then the Israeli government would never be acting this way. Lebanon Iran and Yemen would be at the front door in two seconds and Israel would be deserving of the visit.
British created famine in Bengal with their war policies. And didnt bother acknowledging it as they wanted the food and resources to keep going to their military. Guess this is what happens when you want to enjoy an exclusive victimhood.
As a german whose grandmother was bombed out in Frankfurt and had to flee: Thank you for doing so. With these bombing you cleared our brainwashed heads. I know whom you were fighting and I am doing my very best to fight every Neonazi I'm confronted with. I met a woman, born in the village near the KZ Auschwitz. She said she saw Mengele, she said she heard the kids cry for their moms and the moms for their kids and did not bother because she was brainwashed. When she had to flee to central germany, she came through burning Warshaw with her baby on her arms. She said that during this trail, she started to think. When after war she met her husband, she scolded him: "What have you done to the Russians that they became so hateful?! Don't tell me you did not rape women and burn their houses?!" Well this marriage did not last long. But this woman fought against any Nazi-ideology and any denial or even lack of knowledge, even in the geriatric home. Every nurse who ever had a night shift there, knew her story, and that she still hears the cries of the mothers and children at Auschwitz trainstation. In another geriatric home, they celebrated the end of war as the end of the Nazi Regime. I know, you are traumatized as well, as nobody can lighten such a fire in a city without being traumatized. Thank you for taking this upon you.
@@gerhardfink6737 no he isn't. War against an enemy that wants to exterminate you, especially one that embeds itself in civilian populations, is always like that. I'm not saying it should be like that but the alternative is a never ending war where even more people would die long term. However I'm willing to listen to why you believe the current conflict is different, and discuss it like civilised gentlemen.
But your academics thrive on Greek history the most. In law - A queens council once said ,at the bar chambers we have a saying ,it takes a 100 Englishman to fool 1 Greek Is why the utmost importance we study Greek history, philosophy psychology to enable to determine the correct ruling of judgement.
@@LeoS300 75 years? I'm pretty sure The U.S. of A is more than 75 years old. The Greeks were pedos. The catholic church is full of pedos. Hollywood has always been full of pedos.
Here in the USA we've been lied to about our history and only today do I see people starting to realize the Illuminati has funded every war since the first French Revolution, aka the bankers, Rothchild's, the inbreed psychopathy family destroy our world.
So basically what he is saying is, since the British gov's bombardment involves civilian casualties, Israel should also be allowed to do so....in short, if other countries could commit mass killing with impunity, then Israel should be allowed to do it too....he should also cite America in his argument to strengthen his justification.....comparing WW2 with an insurgency by the occupied against the occupier?
These people are idiots. They are NOT part of a better or even brighter future. They are part of what will be a very very dark future if they continue toget their way.
@@utpalchoudhury330they're not using them they got involved, in war Soldier is not using civilian as shield but they got involved in battle because of war
If this discussion happened at any fucking Middle School anywhere in any country they should fire all of the teachers that presented the student but this is at University what the hell? This person's parent needs to find out what in the hell have they been paying so much money for this person to learn
I do want to add this: World War Two was what what is known as a “Total War” meaning every citizen of the enemy nation is part of the war effort. All countries involved killed civilians.
well yeah, originally the german air force was attacking tactical targets (air fields, fuel storage, factories, etc) And then the british sent a single bomber to hit a purely civilian target. Immediately afterwards, german air forces started targeting civilians. USA firebombed (using napalm) wooden cities in japan, killing more people with fire than both the atom bombs combined. the soviets we dont even need to talk about, the imperial japanese forces had things like Nankiang. Essentially, there were no "good guys" in ww2, it was "less evil"
So does that matter? She is still right and proved ben Shapiro wrong, Ben Shapiro asked that were Britain wrong, now as Britain Bombed civilians i have the authority to say yup Britain were wrong.
I’m a highschool student and I pay very close attention to history class. I quite enjoy it. I just wish others would take advantage of education it’s very sad.
@@FNBRVolts well the education system is screwed up due to the lgbtq wanting to teach children like you their beliefs and bs information about their gay lives tbh
But Palestinian children aren’t in the wrong. What ben is doing here is assuming that everyone else is living in the fake reality he lives in where every Palestinian dying is a part of Hamas which is just not true at all.
@@annigard8 bombing innocent civilians is horrible no matter what, however the numbers didnt show that the majority of germans being killed were women and children, like they do for palestine.
@@EliaAl-Nims I don't know if ever there was such a thing as counting women & children amongst the German civilians of WW2 so we would never know how many perished. Second I'm not sure who exactly is saying that the majority of Palestinians that perished are women & children? ...I suspect its Hamas. Anyway, his point is that this is a war, & war concentrates on elimenating the enemy regardless of who gets in the way. Sad yeah, but it's been going on for many thousands of years. Israel is held to such a moral high standard because there's truth in their people being the 'chosen' as the bible states & it will happen again, read zachariah 14 where there will come a 2nd time it (October 7th) happens & in the exact same manner. Are you familiar with the bible? There it prophesies that the whole world will come against Israel, especially the surrounding Islamic nations! & it even names them!!!
HOW can a British woman NOT KNOW her country's RECENT history?!!! I now believe that public education in other countries must be just as bad as it is in the US.
As an Englishman, i say we should close down these universities. The ignorance of these students is astounding. The universities are clearly not doing their job
Ah, that assumes that what they are currently and have been doing isn't EXACTLY what they have become designed for. Maybe 100 years ago the colleges were for education, now it is solely for indoctrination and debt enslavement.
I’m embarrassed for her….. I bet she spent £100k on that piss poor education just to get schooled by a Yank😂😂😂😂 its depressing me how stupid young ppl are
Well clearly she meant to say it wasn't one sided whereby British were bombing innocent German civilians with high tech and Germany were pretty much defenceless
@@thecovfefe340 IF*** she was hypothetically speaking jeez why does everything needs to be explained like a child to people like you. The situation with Gaza And Israel is unequal on every level.
The fact that the idiot shapiro started comparing it to German and Britain is absurd itself. In the world war neither sides were actually ethnically cleansing, or turning off water supply electricity or bombing children hospitals and ambulances on purpose like cowards in Israel are doing
@@EmMa-ck5wq you used hypothetically incorrectly, I would have too when I was a child. I don't think you're at an age to be discussing this after that comment, so I won't be responding any further.
Shapiro can stand there and spit all of his glib comebacks all he wants but the fact remains people are not buying the Israeli government's bullshit like they used to.
Unfortunately these people don't seem interested in truth, they have an agenda and they will choose to believe anything so long as it backs that agenda.....inspired by the evil one.
BRITAIN DID NOT OCCUPY GERMANY. Imagine guys if the brits killed asians en masse in their past colonies. Or the whites massacring blacks in apartheid africa. Ben Shapiro gives a sly argument in support of well trained IDF soldiers with modern weapons cowardly killing young children en masse. Please awaken your human conscience
What do you know?Did Israel not bomb hospitals?did they not kill 10k civilians in the last 3 weeks?4k of them being childen?Have they not been forcing palestines to live in a apartheid state for 75 years?Did they not cut off water,food and electricity,which is collective punishment and a war crime?
No it shouldn't. It should be a criminal offense for PARENTS to fail in teaching their children the harsh realities of life. Stop expecting someone else to raise your kids for you!
Although she didn't say a single correct thing, she does have a nice vocabulary and British accent. Plus she realized Everyone knew she was clueless and pivoted quickly
There's a reason history is taught in our schools. Parents pay taxes so there will be schools to teach history so there won't be idiots like this woman.
Exactly, 45% of all casualties being children and the most common age killed being 5 is just apart of war! We should be able to use the same moral compass as countries did in a day and age that had the likes of Hitler or Leopold II
@@Fifa-un9cq then why are they not fighting that army? Instead of fighting that army they are just bombing innocent civilians and hospitals isn't that true?
What Hamas did entering Israel killing unarmed innocent Israeli public and taking 134 innocent civilians as hostages yet using them as human shields is it justified to the Palestinians ?
@@Dogma210 The thought of me being attested for my deeds where all stand equal before god and in the hour and i will be questioned about my deeds enabled me to say that.
@Dogma210 you KNOW his phone told him to say that. That is all these people do...regurgitate whichever catch phrases their mainstream media and social media overlords tell them to repeat
@Gioatama cool story bro. Is your god going to question your moral support to the Palestinians who just butchered 1500 people, including hundreds and hundreds of women, children, and infant babies, and kidnapped a couple hundred more on 7 October? Would love to see you explain that one to your sky daddy
@@earthworm_sallyearthworm_s3013 They haven't been occupying a country. Nobody seems to bat an eyelid that northern Cyprus has been occupied by Turkey for 50 years since they invasion of 1974. In fact people holiday there and have even bought stolen homes to live in or to use as holiday homes.
actually the bombing of civilians by allies is criticized to this very day. furthermore to compare nazi germany with hamas clearly shows that this guy has lost touch with reality. nazi germany was not defeated by bombing ccivilians and killing some soldiers in the process. germany was defeated on the ground.
Were Hamas coming into the country of Israel first? And decapitating children and babies ? Were they torturing the parents and elderly in their homes? And are you on the side of the terrorists ?Do you want all of the people of Israel killed? And not to defend their people.. They have been feeding your people for years and this is how you treat them.? You can't hav
As a german, i give Mr Shapiro a plus plus for this reminder. There were civilians bombed in germany. Hitler was a bastard, but not all germans were Nazis and soldiers. And the britains were right to fight back.
As a German who was born and raised in the United States, I absolutely praise Shapiro for his knowledge, and people like you who know basic facts that German soldiers were not Nazis. My great grandfather was a sergeant in the Luftwaffe, his brother was in the Wehrmact, and another sibling also served in the Wehrmact, but later served the Soviet Union (Willy Reidel).
What’s worse for her argument is that she doesn’t realize Britain didn’t tell the Germans where they were gonna attack a day to a couple of weeks in advance.
how would you like it if we made fun of your religion you wouldn’t like it would you and that’s not true. I advise you research about Islam more so you understand Islam in a more positive way and not in such an Islamophobic way.
Cause they aren't teaching history any more in university. They are teaching garbage like lesbian dance theory, gender studies, DEI and CRT crap, liberal studies, trans ideology, so on. NOT useful information. It's also why these liberals get out of Uni and can't find a job, cause their degrees are literally worthless and they know literally nothing about the real world. k-12 public school isn't any better.
She's a diversity hire, Oxford lost a lot of the prestige it once held. Not to say it is a bad college now but they are infested with the same woke BS that is plaguing the other colleges.
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian State has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas," Netanyahu told his Likud party's Knesset members in March 2019. "This is part of our strategy"
Well the government can literally propagandize their own people. So you have probably been brainwashed. It's been a thing since 1978. Usa can lie to Americans to further help their own economy
What is that for an argument? You use the casualties of Britain and Germany from a completely different war to explain the blatant genocide of Palestinians. You can turn it how you want but Israel commits openly genocide especially when they carpet bomb a densely packed area with cluster bombs. Oh and did I mention that mostly civilians died and the hostages may also be in danger of being hit by their own airforce? Shapiro, you didn't embarrass this women you only embarrassed yourself by using an example that has no relation to the actual topic. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Yes, that's right, England didn't directly carry out the bombing, but only ordered its minions & maybe one of them was the US & Israel.😁😁 as in the current case, England must be responsible for Rohingya immigrants, it is England who placed them in Yanmar. Don't let cases like Jewish/Israeli immigrants happen again. It was all the work of the British who mobilized & in the end Israel colonized Palestine. Everything the British did was at the root of potential conflict after centuries, and this was more than just the bombs the British dropped.
@DoD1009 ah yes, the "blame the imperialists" because they could see far into the future and understood everything so perfectly. Self-accountability us irrelevant when long-gone empires can be blamed. Don't get mad at me though, it was the Romans that set me up for this comment
@@DoD1009 I wish the Western nations had never encountered the Middle East or Africa. I also wish I could see if they had all our technology. It would be very interesting to see what they had achieved. Of course there would be no Palestine because the Romans would never have been there.
Palestinians declared war on Israel in October 2023 and that's it. Israel is simply continuing what Palestinians started. Why no one is actually asking Palestinians to stop this? Why no one is asking them to stop fighting this lost battle?
ANDA BERKOMEDI, SEBELUM 2023 ISRAEL MELAKUKAN PERANG SEMBUNYI DGN PALESTINA N WILAYAHNYA, TAHUN BESOK BISA MESIR, IRAK, YORDANIA, TURKI, SELURUH ARAB N DUNIA, DUNIA ZIONIS CS N ELIT GLOBAL GAK AKAN MERASA KENYANG N AMAN DGN HASIL RAMPOKAN NYA 😎😎😎🤫🤫🤫
@@michaiahelmehdi9911 Before 2023? Do you mean in 1948 when Israel was created and Palestinians and all the neighbouring countries declared war on Israel? Just 24 hours after the creation of the Israeli state.
@@rgarcia0808 You conveniently hid the fact that Irgun, Palmach, Leti etc were going around massacring villages around British Mandate between 1947-48 BEFORE the state was even created, and that is why the neighbouring counties declared war haha. Busted ;)
Oh look another one who believes everything started on October 7th, no it started in 1948 with the slaughter and forced displacement of Palestinians. The Israelis call it independence day, the Palestinians call it the Nakba (catastrophe). Funny how history works and this is actually a vicious cycle caused by the Israelis. Pressure produces back pressure, simple law of nature.
BUT is she really grown up? Possibly in her early 20's leading her debate purely off emotions and Ben is a Harvard lawyer graduate who loves to destroy crybabies. He has training in debates and casting doubt in any argument thus rendering them incapable of defending themselves. I would have said YES Britain was wrong killing any civilians but one would hope we learned from our past mistakes and is the whole reason why United nations was established in the first place. Ben Shapiro thinks revenge is the solution, kinda like when the Americans justified obliterating the native Americans because they attacked their settlers after they expanded out West into their territory. Sound familiar?
Because they dont teach real history. All they're told in "History class" is WHITE PEOPLE BAD and Marx was a saint and how the Romans werent all white and bullshit like this
Everyone has an opinion the god 🙏 she is not an Yankee because she will not be allowed to speak littarly 100 year's ago in Britain.Freedom of speech has definitely came a long way.
Ben is embarrassing himself hanging about college picking on kids. He loves Israel so much why is he not over fighting instead of trying to manipulate others to do so
These so-called smart people should read historical articles having to do with wars! Stop hiring stupid professors who only teach made-up racist issues!
Why cause people are not brainwashed by who controls the narrative.Just cause ben says hamas everytime people bring up citizens shows how disengenous he is.I mean look at iraq war ect and how america funded alot of them.Comparing one just to excuse the idf actions is disgusting.
Yea it's like debating toddlers. They need protesters that are prepared with historical facts and political knowledge to debate. Ben Shapiro has training in debates. That's it. Ben loves destroying unprepared cry babies.
It started a long time ago. Back when I was in high school, many many many many years ago, I had a very young female history teacher that had recently graduated with her teaching credentials and landed this teaching job. I was a slacker back then but I enjoyed reading history. One day she made a comment about something we had in our textbook and I raised my hand, then questioned her how she knew that her version of history was more accurate than the text book. She said, out loud for all to hear "because it's what she had learned in College". Even at the tender age of 16 I knew we were in trouble if teachers were being taught opinions veiled as facts in College. Unfortunately for her, a few days later she gave us all an assignment where we had to pick a subject of historical significance and give a speech in front of the class about the subject. When my turn came I chose to give a speech on how the teachers knowledge of history was wrong. I spoke for over 20 minutes non-stop. My classmates were stunned because I never showed any interest in any of my other classes and always stayed silent. The teacher was mortified and gave me an F for that exercise and flunked me for the year. That's when I knew education was in trouble and it's gotten worse ever since..
What war you israelis are fighting for? Isn't it to continue the illegal & illegitimate occupation of Palestine over the graves of innocent men, women & children? Shame on you!
Please do explain why? I can gurentee to you, if any countey had to deal with the same crap Gaza/Hamas had done, Gaza and ALL their residents would cease to exist... Even the so called countries who support Gaza and Palestinians
Oh German civilians weren’t killed in WW2…this was said in Oxford University she is now a global joke. As someone of German & Dutch heritage who lost relatives due to bombing in WW2 I can’t believe she has been allowed to say this
I am from Chemnitz (Germany). I had and still have relatives in and near Dresden. My family lost members (civilians). Still, this didn't make me angry. The first time I heard her, I broke out in laughter. 😂 Don't get me wrong. It's not funny that some of my relatives died. But her stupidity truly is hilarious. ^^
Probably the RAF didn't see any other chance to force the Nazi terror regime and the German civilians -who elected and supported them!- to surrender. These civilians had to pay the price for their voting and support. Today in Isreal both sides should aks themselves why do "they" hate "us". Both sides hide from their guilt. Palestinians voted for this terror regime for a long time and Isrealis voted for a government who is constantly braking UN laws by building Isreali cities on the territory of the Palaestinian State.
I’m a 21 year old Canadian man (west coast BC) and I am both proud of myself and disappointed of my generation that I do not think like most of my fellows within my age group. Probably.. -I can't really attest from my own personal experience to generally how moral and rational, or ignorant and delusional their thinking & ideology is, because since I moved cities last year, every single one of my friends that I hang out with in person now are older than me. At least 25, but most are early to mid 30’s and some in their 40’s, and that’s all because of the community that I surround myself with now. My current friends didn’t shape my ideology, I realized the BS of the progressive left as soon as I became interested in understanding politics, which started from my distrust and frustration with Trudeau, so I’m consistently puzzled why other young people my age strayed way off into left field (pun intended) with the “regressive” ideology. My best guess is social conformity, kids my age are parrots, and I find they struggle to put themselves in the shoes of the other side, especially when they’re emotionally worked up. They are often ignorant and they don’t look for impartial answers, they don’t know how to, and where to look for these answers, nor do they ask questions in attempt to understand the facts and the history of concepts that they have so many opinions about. They can’t admit to themselves or others when their feelings or opinions are effectively irrational but not affectively irrational, and don’t know that is normal and okay. Unable to separate emotional thought from rational thought. They are seemingly unable to try and separate their feelings from the reality that benefits our society as a whole and how to weigh the personal cost that their uninformed political outrage detriments their own mental, emotional, social, and spiritual wellbeing. Seems that many of them struggle to prioritize and regulate how much attention they give to that political emotion. And understandably so, because we’re still kids, we’re freshman in adulthood, many are growing up quickly and as a result are being radicalized at a young age where our emotional, moral, and rational regulation is underdeveloped. So just like how many people everyday are finally waking up to this madness, I hope my generation will follow. There will always be radical crazies, and they’re the loud minority, but I hope my generation will grow up and recover from their social homogeneity contagion and form their own opinions without fear of being canceled by their university peers. Thought I’d just share from my view as a young person and hopefully I could bring hope to at least 1 person, that there are still young people that believe in merit and the principles that make American society the best and most prosperous in the history of the world. I love Canada, I love the United States, I love freedom, and I love truth, even if it hurts sometimes. If you read allat thank you for listening to/reading my spiel, I hope my insight was helpful or interesting.
Bah, what a time we live in, where a geno cide is justified because "in a war almost 100 years ago civilians have been bombed so we repeat it". Shame on this grown up man who should be leading the new generations, not be on the devils side. What a world, what a world...
@@KelvinSG she is not stupid , she is correct in this topic which shows she is intelligent, she is not educated or prepared enough to articulate her position.
Agreed. Both Ben and the student can benefit from history lesson. Yes, the British may very well be wrong today if the German casualties were the result of their indiscriminate bombings. The Geneva Conventions, which provides for the principle of distinction between civilians and combatants were ratified in 1949, after WWII for the very reason to avoid such atrocities to reoccur. Ben applying the WWII argument here is intellectually dishonest.
Under the political environment now, I picture history lessons as vast plains with countless land mines, and it’s simply impossible to go through. So the lack of proper history lesson is just instructors and education institutions playing safe and not going into land mines.
@@mysara230 everyone with a brain sees it. We also see that she has her hands out in supplication, and he keeps the same cold scowl. Not a shred of sympathy for the dead children on the other side; he's the same monster he claims to be fighting
@@asdfbeau Nonsense, hamas maggots are targeting Israeli civilians, IMF is targeting hamas maggots who are using their own people as meat shields. You have no clue what you're talking about. Hamas is 100% at fault for death on both sides.
@@MrBLaCktech they may be. But that’s a well known terrorist tactic used by daesh/ISIS, Taliban, and others. Hide among the civilian population for cover. They don’t care that their actions are putting their own people in danger, so why should the IDF? They have barracks in hospitals and schools, in civilian housing. Israel told the Palestinians what was going to happen, and told them to leave and go south, and their own people called them traitors and fired rockets at them near the Egyptian border. The ones who chose to stay made an error in judgement. At this point, who’s to know who’s a civilian and whose a terrorist?
@@MrBLaCktechSure they are. And Israel is getting missiles and had "troops" go into Israel and shoot and RPG civilians. Tit for tat. Gotta love religion
@@huda2633I'm not a fan of ben, but I've never seen an Arab or Muslim debate that wasn't based on their own religious nonsense. so I highly doubt anyone even cares about the guy you're talking about 😂
both sides are making war crimes, does that make murdering children ok? from either side, its wrong and people should protest and ask for stopping the war
Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice! Donquixote Doflamingo
@@whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatthe un? Who the fuck cares what the un says the international community is a joke and a pushover they have not yet called out China for its active genocide in china
While it’s unfortunate, the left doesn’t teach history anymore. The left does not want you to be informed. The left just wants you to fall in line and support whatever position they take. I guess that’s why colleges are universities are more indoctrination than education. This woman is a good example of how ignorant and passionate a person can be on an issue. She does not know what’s she is talking about, she has no interest in finding out, and she is willing to die for it. 🤪🤪🤪
If only you were born in the 1920’s😭. Your answer could really at the least stopped Hitler from starting world war and stopped this current conflict from even happening
@@MAzurburga lot of them don’t and they refuse to acknowledge it. I’ve seen Israelis that’s say “yea but do you see what Palestinians and Muslims teach in their religion?” As if that’s an excuse to have the audacity to come to someone’s currently claimed land and fight for a piece of it without going by their rules… quite the audacity.
@@MAzurburg This conflict go on like 70 years maybe? Thats two diffrent religions what do people expect? The problem is, you dont fight for freedom like that. This hiding rats are killing their own people like now. If you want to fight, you do this not using civilians like shields who just want to live their lives.
It wasn’t even tactically sound. It was all about revenge. Easy to Monday morning quarter back now. But ask your average English person in 1945! “Fuck them krauts” I’d imagine.
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As a Brit I must inform you that yes we fucking did.
As an American whos actually learned world history, yes, yes you did. Tbh there wasn't a single country in that war that didn't do something shitty, it just happens that Germany was the shittiest of all.
@@BerdersnerI think the allied forces did it for strategic reasons the Germans committed genocide for hatred and to oppress. It wasn’t like killing the Jews made it easier to beat other European countries. However, the us for example bombed Hiroshima to force the Japanese to surrender.
Right? No country in the world is innocent of committing atrocities against their own or other nationalities. Especially if they happen to be at war with another country.
Thanks👍🏼
thank your fallen on behalf of a canadian jew
When you don't know history you'll be doomed to repeat it. This is a stellar example.
😂😂😂 what your spiking
Your Absolutely Correct!
Ignorance has no effect on preventing/facilitating atrocity- the government and big business contractors determine that. War =money. These are just blatant lies spewed so Palestinians can pretend to be victims of a war they started.
history always repeats itself
But his argument is to intentionally repeat history 🤔🤔🤨🤨
This woman has cured my imposter syndrome. Most 12 year olds have a better grasp on history than her.
Yes, more 12yr Olds have a better grasp than you also. It wasn't just Britain vs Germany. It was the Allies vs Germany and those numbers show that he is wrong.
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Every generation is getting stupider and stupider.🤦
Like the movie 🎥 title: Dumb And Dumber!!!
Just some of the people in them. I’m genuinely upset about how stupid this woman is.
Naw
@@Tridentofmemes Well, yeah they are!!!
@youngheec6728 "every generation is getting more stupid"-someone from 1629
As soon as she stated " British didn't bombard civilians" everyone knows something is wrong 😂
People dont understand the scale of modern war at all.
600 thousand died in the civil war. From muskets, knives, and fucking cannonballs. With a fucking population thats a joke compared to todays.
And yet these days, with hundreds of millions of more people and weapons capable of killing millions in 3 seconds, 10,000 people die and they wanna call it ethnic cleansing.
If war was conducted like it used to be, the death toll in palestine would be pushing 1-1.5million by now.
The audible reaction was fantastic.
Too many “refugees”
😂😂😂 Ignorance is vice😊
Dresden
Wait till she hears about how America won the war against Japan. It’ll blow her mind
it definitely Blew a couple hundred thousand Japanese people's minds
@@xspendable1too soon!!!
@@xspendable1*evaporate
They were warned and told to evacuate. Still a horrible tragedy nonetheless.
@@davidhodge0201but it's truly save billions of lives. Japan wouldn't stop their sh*t in China and east Asia
That's the problem, young people have been coddled to the point that they don't understand civilian casualties are the norm in any war.
XD
It's called war crimes and it's punishable by law
@@muhammadhussam9958 False. Unintentional civilian casualties in a war is not considered a war crime. Please educate yourself.
@@aceapolonio7284 bombing civilian safe areas in war zone is ,please don't let the propaganda lies swerve the truth
boo hoo fella go read your quran where it is perfectly said that your god wants to kill everyone who doesn't follow allah because allah is the greatest god in the universe , thats a more of war crime than unintentional bombing@@muhammadhussam9958
She's wrong but that doesnt make Benji Shapi's arguement right either. Benji picked a weakling haha
He debated lots of people, stop hating on this dude this dude is always right
@@GorenGuangI have proved him wrong MANY times😂 And here, I have proved you wrong. If you're gona publicise a video, better get your facts straight and provide evidence or else I'm going to debunk and shame you ;)
@@liquifyist 😂 Out of all the masterful debaters, political commentators, influential figures that have all tried to prove him wrong yet failed, some random nobody probably sitting on the couch like you claims to have proved him wrong?! This dude could tear your whole ego and argument down while daydreaming yet some couch potato sitting on the couch eating lays chips in your imaginative futile mind think you can slide with this dude in a debate?? You’re delusional, you’re delusional you can’t prove shit wrong 😂
@@liquifyist you haven't proved anyone wrong bro. And if you watch the whole video, he debates anyone in the audience who is picked by the lady in the back wearing green.
He always does
History needs to be Taught for 12 years in school
Ben is really brilliant......
She had selective history lessons 😅
Just like finances are in Israel
What is the point of teaching and history? That means teaching them facts, and these theirs. They don't want to know facts. They just want to know their narrative. Because they're always right even when they're always wrong.
So Oxford just lost a big chunk of reputation because she doesnt know history? Or because she knows a history written by the victor? This university is supposed to be one of the best in the world. . .
I will never understand the confidence with which ignorant people engage in debates.
It's easy, brain washing does JUST that!
Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless.
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Biblical wisdom, "a fool walks certain in all his folly, the wise however, measure each step".
happens a lot these days but to debate someone like, well, literally ANYONE from the daily wire, you better bring your AAA Game! You better have the facts! Their team is untouchable, ive never seen ANY of them lose a single argument. not even close. They btfo lefties like taking candy from a baby.
Stupid people typically find someone even more stupid to debate them
FREE URANUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMAOO
Nah fre Pluto, they got that MF in the vault
@@brycebean8798lol
I stand with Jupiter ✊
Mars maybe?
It really worries me that people don't understand the concept of war
One of the quickest ways to make yourself look stupid is to talk about something you know nothing about.
Which, for far too many students these days, is pretty much everything
She got owned. There are no Palestinians they back hamas theyre all tribes if they didnt have Isreal as a common enemy they attack each other
Yea they literally watch the Internet for 10 hours and decide to go do something about the injustice
Exactly our entire issue on all subjects today. Educating isn’t what it was 50 years ago. It’s the major issue in our society
Your right and the way things are today that’s majority of the population on this planet.
The fact that Oxford University no longer teaches History, English, or Logic
Yeah I feel that she should have mentioned the Russian casualties in comparison to Germans and Chinese Casualties in comparison to Japanese,that would have shut Ben logic there and then.
@@ZamanKhan-gw8bq I don't think I understand what you're trying to say. Ben was making a specific analogy and asking the student to take a moral stance on that specific, analogous situation. Reasoned, courteous, logical debate would require (1) a response to his direct question and/or a counterargument containing historical facts and ethical principles attempting to show the analogy was flawed; or (2) a concession that Ben had made a good point. Possibly followed by some other type of argument or claim, hopefully with more evidentiary basis and historical context than the first one. Pointing out the differences in casualties between Russian vs. German or Chinese vs. Japanese casualties wouldn't do any of those things.
@@Rachel-en5nt Ben took Gemran and Brits casualties example and said that since Germans were killed more in comparison that does not mean Germans were right but on the contrary Chinese casualties were more in comparison to Japanese and Chinese were right and being oppressed by Imperial Japanese forces another example was Russians had more casualties as compared to Germans and Russians were right as gwrmams invaded their land. Let's go further jewsih partisan faced more casualties against Nazis and they were right since they were fighting the oppressor. Ben just took one example of world war out of context and tried to fit it in Palestinian conflict where as the above examples also fit in the same scenario.
90 percent foreign students maybe..
@@Rachel-en5nt Ben's whole argument isn't even analogous to this situation. Britain was killing enemy combatants while Israel is killing civilians . We're not talking about a small disparity here. Less than 20 combatants killed and over 8 thousands innocent civilians murdered. Anyone standing up for that is sick . If anything America should mind their own business and stay out of this conflict. If America wasn't sending billions of dollars, weapons and training then the Israeli government would never be acting this way. Lebanon Iran and Yemen would be at the front door in two seconds and Israel would be deserving of the visit.
Ha ha she has absolutely no clue with anything 😂😂😂
British created famine in Bengal with their war policies. And didnt bother acknowledging it as they wanted the food and resources to keep going to their military.
Guess this is what happens when you want to enjoy an exclusive victimhood.
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I'm an ex British soldier and trust me we did. That's war. War is ugly.
As a german whose grandmother was bombed out in Frankfurt and had to flee: Thank you for doing so. With these bombing you cleared our brainwashed heads. I know whom you were fighting and I am doing my very best to fight every Neonazi I'm confronted with.
I met a woman, born in the village near the KZ Auschwitz. She said she saw Mengele, she said she heard the kids cry for their moms and the moms for their kids and did not bother because she was brainwashed. When she had to flee to central germany, she came through burning Warshaw with her baby on her arms. She said that during this trail, she started to think. When after war she met her husband, she scolded him: "What have you done to the Russians that they became so hateful?! Don't tell me you did not rape women and burn their houses?!" Well this marriage did not last long. But this woman fought against any Nazi-ideology and any denial or even lack of knowledge, even in the geriatric home. Every nurse who ever had a night shift there, knew her story, and that she still hears the cries of the mothers and children at Auschwitz trainstation.
In another geriatric home, they celebrated the end of war as the end of the Nazi Regime.
I know, you are traumatized as well, as nobody can lighten such a fire in a city without being traumatized.
Thank you for taking this upon you.
@@himmel-erdeundzuruck5682 don't thank me I wasn't born until 1989. I can't take any credit. But I appreciate it on behalf of my great grandfather. 👍
He shit talking...he mixed pears with apples
@@gerhardfink6737 no he isn't. War against an enemy that wants to exterminate you, especially one that embeds itself in civilian populations, is always like that. I'm not saying it should be like that but the alternative is a never ending war where even more people would die long term.
However I'm willing to listen to why you believe the current conflict is different, and discuss it like civilised gentlemen.
@@danielcharnock8975
Israel is the occupier of Palestinian's land. They want the land back.
Clearly, the University of Oxford is not the place to learn European history.
*College in general
Nor any history.
But your academics thrive on Greek history the most.
In law -
A queens council once said
,at the bar chambers we have a saying ,it takes a 100 Englishman to fool 1 Greek
Is why the utmost importance we study Greek history, philosophy psychology to enable to determine the correct ruling of judgement.
@@user-pg2yp9wm6c Yeah, kinda weird to base a society around a group of people who touch little boys.
@@LeoS300 75 years? I'm pretty sure The U.S. of A is more than 75 years old. The Greeks were pedos. The catholic church is full of pedos. Hollywood has always been full of pedos.
Bring Andrew Tate, he knows how to shut him up!
The ignorance, naivety and plain lack of knowledge and education is astounding
In Dominican Republic a politician said multiple times to us : "the country that does not know it's own history is condemned to repeat it" J.Bosch
As a Dominican fax
That was repeated in my history classes and I’m American. Though I’d dropped out at the turn of the century (2000)
It’s a quote from a philosopher from Spain named George Santayana made in 1905.
You could say that about Americans concerning the lack of transparency about the current American government.
Here in the USA we've been lied to about our history and only today do I see people starting to realize the Illuminati has funded every war since the first French Revolution, aka the bankers, Rothchild's, the inbreed psychopathy family destroy our world.
It's clear to me that many of these famous universities lost their true value and worth.
EXACTLY,, fame built on sand
To be fair that groan that followed her statement means most people there knew what she said was stupid.
@@JayV949 Not really though, college kids LOVE to harp on about how evil Britain/the West is.
Is that an American college student dressed up like a middle eastern woman?
@@user-wb6wn3ft5z This isn't America. Read yhe title.
So basically what he is saying is, since the British gov's bombardment involves civilian casualties, Israel should also be allowed to do so....in short, if other countries could commit mass killing with impunity, then Israel should be allowed to do it too....he should also cite America in his argument to strengthen his justification.....comparing WW2 with an insurgency by the occupied against the occupier?
the look when she said "britain wasnt bombing civilians" 💀😭
"You should talk to the people in Dresden, but you can't...because they're dead." 😮
Thats basically paraphrasing Starship Troopers i think.
well i mean it was nearly 80 years ago - there are quite few survivors anyway
A serious way to approach a debate, of course
As a German i say this is embarrassing
Am English. I agree she is embarrassing and she not british
Why because the Jews are killing more people than the Germans ever did?
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
@@user-tp1ob3uv4pFree them from Hamas and Islam. Only our God Jesus saves.
@@michaelhughes4562Must she be British to talk about Britain?
Ben shapiro only dare to debate with student..
The student challenged him lol
+1
When the crowd fact checked her 😂😂😂😂
“Britain wasn’t bombing civilians” That’s just depressing coming from an Oxford student
These people are idiots. They are NOT part of a better or even brighter future. They are part of what will be a very very dark future if they continue toget their way.
It's not like the factories were built around civilian populations before the war so civilians could go to work. Not at all.
This girl is braindead.
Braves never use civilian as shield
@@utpalchoudhury330they're not using them they got involved, in war Soldier is not using civilian as shield but they got involved in battle because of war
It’s insanely ill informed. Wow.
Is that an Oxford student? If so she should ask for a refund.
I didn't know one could major in Feminist Basket Weaving at Oxford.
ahaha refund bigtime
Why punish the school? She was a diversity enrollee.
If this discussion happened at any fucking Middle School anywhere in any country they should fire all of the teachers that presented the student but this is at University what the hell? This person's parent needs to find out what in the hell have they been paying so much money for this person to learn
It's an overpriced daycare center at this point.
She is Exhibiting her ignorance for the whole world to see.
And her point is?...
"Britain didn’t bomb civillians"
It hits so hard how awfully wrong that is
Its easy to assume that, since it would now be contrary to the Geneva Convention.
I do want to add this: World War Two was what what is known as a “Total War” meaning every citizen of the enemy nation is part of the war effort. All countries involved killed civilians.
that student was just doing what so called "TAQQIYAH" by using poor data that lead to misinformations
well yeah, originally the german air force was attacking tactical targets (air fields, fuel storage, factories, etc)
And then the british sent a single bomber to hit a purely civilian target. Immediately afterwards, german air forces started targeting civilians. USA firebombed (using napalm) wooden cities in japan, killing more people with fire than both the atom bombs combined. the soviets we dont even need to talk about, the imperial japanese forces had things like Nankiang.
Essentially, there were no "good guys" in ww2, it was "less evil"
So does that matter?
She is still right and proved ben Shapiro wrong,
Ben Shapiro asked that were Britain wrong, now as Britain Bombed civilians i have the authority to say yup Britain were wrong.
It's frightening how many people do NOT know the history of the last hundred years. Looks like we're destined to repeat it.
So you're for using children for war and you're fine with the slaughter of innocent bc that's what the Palestinians want
Maybe look into their history and facts and then come back to see If you stand by what you're saying
I’m a highschool student and I pay very close attention to history class. I quite enjoy it. I just wish others would take advantage of education it’s very sad.
@@FNBRVolts well the education system is screwed up due to the lgbtq wanting to teach children like you their beliefs and bs information about their gay lives tbh
@@FNBRVolts but some subjects like anatomy and biology should stay in schools
Hamburg was burning so high , you could See it from Flensburg .
But Palestinian children aren’t in the wrong. What ben is doing here is assuming that everyone else is living in the fake reality he lives in where every Palestinian dying is a part of Hamas which is just not true at all.
Poland has the least terrorists attacks :)
His question didn't assume that all Germans were a part of the Nazi ideology, & Britain still bombed innocent civilians!?
@@annigard8 bombing innocent civilians is horrible no matter what, however the numbers didnt show that the majority of germans being killed were women and children, like they do for palestine.
@@EliaAl-Nims I don't know if ever there was such a thing as counting women & children amongst the German civilians of WW2 so we would never know how many perished. Second I'm not sure who exactly is saying that the majority of Palestinians that perished are women & children? ...I suspect its Hamas. Anyway, his point is that this is a war, & war concentrates on elimenating the enemy regardless of who gets in the way. Sad yeah, but it's been going on for many thousands of years. Israel is held to such a moral high standard because there's truth in their people being the 'chosen' as the bible states & it will happen again, read zachariah 14 where there will come a 2nd time it (October 7th) happens & in the exact same manner. Are you familiar with the bible? There it prophesies that the whole world will come against Israel, especially the surrounding Islamic nations! & it even names them!!!
@@EliaAl-Nims Who do you think died in German cities while all the men were at war?
HOW can a British woman NOT KNOW her country's RECENT history?!!! I now believe that public education in other countries must be just as bad as it is in the US.
Because she isn't British?
Shes' Palestinian, dude. Literally the only reason she's pro Palestine in this debate.
Coz she ain't British
She belongs to the "Pieceful" community!
Nationalism is an alien concept to the Peacefuls. Their loyalty will always be to the umma or Muslim community.
As an Englishman, i say we should close down these universities. The ignorance of these students is astounding. The universities are clearly not doing their job
Ah, that assumes that what they are currently and have been doing isn't EXACTLY what they have become designed for.
Maybe 100 years ago the colleges were for education, now it is solely for indoctrination and debt enslavement.
I’m embarrassed for her….. I bet she spent £100k on that piss poor education just to get schooled by a Yank😂😂😂😂 its depressing me how stupid young ppl are
I’ve been to Dresden, and it’s a depressing site to see
@@btchplz5352 you wanna visit Coventry love
Soooo true
Definitely proven, she's not Palestinian
So horrible things that happened in the past justify doing horrible things in the present?
No, thats why Hamas terrorist attacks must be condemned.
@@banaalinahka385 You meant hamas freedomfighters. I definitely condemn the idf terrorists.
do u have laserweapon with 100% presision?
@@Crazyhead009 Nope only got 2000 pound bombes. So i guess it's okay.
My eyebrows shot to the roof when she said the Brits weren't bombing civilians
Well clearly she meant to say it wasn't one sided whereby British were bombing innocent German civilians with high tech and Germany were pretty much defenceless
@@EmMa-ck5wqthe dead civilians in the Dresden bombings would beg to differ.
@@thecovfefe340 IF*** she was hypothetically speaking jeez why does everything needs to be explained like a child to people like you. The situation with Gaza And Israel is unequal on every level.
The fact that the idiot shapiro started comparing it to German and Britain is absurd itself. In the world war neither sides were actually ethnically cleansing, or turning off water supply electricity or bombing children hospitals and ambulances on purpose like cowards in Israel are doing
@@EmMa-ck5wq you used hypothetically incorrectly, I would have too when I was a child. I don't think you're at an age to be discussing this after that comment, so I won't be responding any further.
They say ignorance is bliss but it’s extremely dangerous. If we don’t know our history, we are bound to repeat it.
Shapiro can stand there and spit all of his glib comebacks all he wants but the fact remains people are not buying the Israeli government's bullshit like they used to.
"doomed" to repeat it
Unfortunately these people don't seem interested in truth, they have an agenda and they will choose to believe anything so long as it backs that agenda.....inspired by the evil one.
Yes. Shapiro put his ignorance on full display.
BRITAIN DID NOT OCCUPY GERMANY.
Imagine guys if the brits killed asians en masse in their past colonies.
Or the whites massacring blacks in apartheid africa.
Ben Shapiro gives a sly argument in support of well trained IDF soldiers with modern weapons cowardly killing young children en masse.
Please awaken your human conscience
Both Britain and German were wrong!
What would have been the right British response to that German behaviour ?
They said Dresden became as hot as the sun
It should be a criminal offense for schools to fail to teach students the harsh realities of life.
What do you know?Did Israel not bomb hospitals?did they not kill 10k civilians in the last 3 weeks?4k of them being childen?Have they not been forcing palestines to live in a apartheid state for 75 years?Did they not cut off water,food and electricity,which is collective punishment and a war crime?
No it shouldn't. It should be a criminal offense for PARENTS to fail in teaching their children the harsh realities of life. Stop expecting someone else to raise your kids for you!
Although she didn't say a single correct thing, she does have a nice vocabulary and British accent. Plus she realized Everyone knew she was clueless and pivoted quickly
No. That's not the job of the educational system to teach the "harsh realities of life". That's the parents' job.
There's a reason history is taught in our schools. Parents pay taxes so there will be schools to teach history so there won't be idiots like this woman.
People who don’t understand war shouldn’t have an opinion on it
Good Luck with that 🙄
War? Yeah "war" with a country which don't even have an army
@@mir3979they definitely have an army and they showed on 7th of October that they are not that weak as you think
Exactly, 45% of all casualties being children and the most common age killed being 5 is just apart of war! We should be able to use the same moral compass as countries did in a day and age that had the likes of Hitler or Leopold II
@@Fifa-un9cq then why are they not fighting that army? Instead of fighting that army they are just bombing innocent civilians and hospitals isn't that true?
What Hamas did entering Israel killing unarmed innocent Israeli public and taking 134 innocent civilians as hostages yet using them as human shields is it justified to the Palestinians ?
Do schools teach history anymore?
These people don’t know wtf they are talking about.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
True
@@Dogma210 The thought of me being attested for my deeds where all stand equal before god and in the hour and i will be questioned about my deeds enabled me to say that.
@Dogma210 you KNOW his phone told him to say that. That is all these people do...regurgitate whichever catch phrases their mainstream media and social media overlords tell them to repeat
@Gioatama cool story bro. Is your god going to question your moral support to the Palestinians who just butchered 1500 people, including hundreds and hundreds of women, children, and infant babies, and kidnapped a couple hundred more on 7 October? Would love to see you explain that one to your sky daddy
"Britain wasn't bombing civilians."
Arthur Harris: "I BEG your pardon?"
BOMBER Harris. Be correct mate😂😂
"They sowed to the wind, they'll reap the whirlwind."
@@JJfromPhilly67 Great words which equally apply to what is currently happening in Gaza.
@@catwoman7462 That more or less applies to Israel, occupying a country for over 70 years, THEN the world being shook when they resist.
@@earthworm_sallyearthworm_s3013 They haven't been occupying a country.
Nobody seems to bat an eyelid that northern Cyprus has been occupied by Turkey for 50 years since they invasion of 1974. In fact people holiday there and have even bought stolen homes to live in or to use as holiday homes.
actually the bombing of civilians by allies is criticized to this very day. furthermore to compare nazi germany with hamas clearly shows that this guy has lost touch with reality.
nazi germany was not defeated by bombing ccivilians and killing some soldiers in the process. germany was defeated on the ground.
Delusional people really do make me laugh...
She should demand a refund from Oxford.
Ummm no. That's tax money. She can go to a different school to learn a trade, or the funds go to a different student at a different school.
To be fair, whoever tries to educate that, is going to fail..😂
Good one
She doesn’t need to know history to become an immigration lawyer and be able to help get more and more of them over here
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As a german i can say that we did in fact die.
Well then who's commenting here bro 💀💀💀
@@williampearl6793
his ghost which haunts You!!!
@@AquitaineKing”same” side lol
@@williampearl6793
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You beat me to it!
Thinking exactly the same thing.
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Were Hamas coming into the country of Israel first? And decapitating children and babies ? Were they torturing the parents and elderly in their homes? And are you on the side of the terrorists ?Do you want all of the people of Israel killed? And not to defend their people.. They have been feeding your people for years and this is how you treat them.? You can't hav
“I’m racist and antisemitic.” Just say it, and stop trying to dress it up as something else.
You are killer
There’s a highly intelligent response.
I used to listen to that man. Not anymore. Partiality is wrong. Period.
These people don't know anything outside of their own bubble.
Ignorance
False information indoctrination thanks to our "educational system".
I don't think you should be talking, american clearly you know 0 history😂😂
Go back about let’s say 40 - 70 years and review the history
These people - muslims for first.
As a german, i give Mr Shapiro a plus plus for this reminder. There were civilians bombed in germany. Hitler was a bastard, but not all germans were Nazis and soldiers. And the britains were right to fight back.
British were right to target civilians to defeat Nazis?? 🤔
As a German who was born and raised in the United States, I absolutely praise Shapiro for his knowledge, and people like you who know basic facts that German soldiers were not Nazis. My great grandfather was a sergeant in the Luftwaffe, his brother was in the Wehrmact, and another sibling also served in the Wehrmact, but later served the Soviet Union (Willy Reidel).
@@andreassimas1731if Ben Shapiro rlly was that knowledgeable he'd go argue with people like Mohammed Hijab, not some random teenagers.
right to fight back doesn't mean it's ok to bomb civilians. two wrongs don't make a right. both Britain and Israel were wrong.
What’s worse for her argument is that she doesn’t realize Britain didn’t tell the Germans where they were gonna attack a day to a couple of weeks in advance.
Calling it ethnic cleansing is so demeaning to genuine examples
Without lies islam dies!
In you dream.
No
Be respectful to other people’s religions.
how would you like it if we made fun of your religion
you wouldn’t like it would you
and that’s not true.
I advise you research about Islam more so you understand Islam in a more positive way and not in such an Islamophobic way.
@@_ur_local_therapist_Watch any Sam Shamoun video
How can an Oxford student not know basic English history.
Affirmative camel action
Cause they aren't teaching history any more in university. They are teaching garbage like lesbian dance theory, gender studies, DEI and CRT crap, liberal studies, trans ideology, so on. NOT useful information.
It's also why these liberals get out of Uni and can't find a job, cause their degrees are literally worthless and they know literally nothing about the real world.
k-12 public school isn't any better.
She's a diversity hire, Oxford lost a lot of the prestige it once held. Not to say it is a bad college now but they are infested with the same woke BS that is plaguing the other colleges.
because school is the garbage
Cause they don't teach history anymore. Your educational system was taken over by liberals a long time ago
You came from a monkey. ..remember
It always amazes me that these people completely believe the terrorists statements and refute anything that contradicts those statements.
Im sorry to tell you, but you have been completely brainwashed by the western media and i dont think theres a fix for it anymore
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian State has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas," Netanyahu told his Likud party's Knesset members in March 2019. "This is part of our strategy"
Its because they are under witchcraft
What makes a group a terrorist group. Because America has terrorised many countries.
Well the government can literally propagandize their own people. So you have probably been brainwashed. It's been a thing since 1978. Usa can lie to Americans to further help their own economy
When facts go against narratives they fold
What is that for an argument? You use the casualties of Britain and Germany from a completely different war to explain the blatant genocide of Palestinians. You can turn it how you want but Israel commits openly genocide especially when they carpet bomb a densely packed area with cluster bombs. Oh and did I mention that mostly civilians died and the hostages may also be in danger of being hit by their own airforce? Shapiro, you didn't embarrass this women you only embarrassed yourself by using an example that has no relation to the actual topic.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
you're falling for hamas propaganda.
@@asmyself4021LOL, that fact alone destroys this whole comment
Bens look when she says "Britain wasn't bombing civilians."
I was about to say the same thing
Yes, that's right, England didn't directly carry out the bombing, but only ordered its minions & maybe one of them was the US & Israel.😁😁
as in the current case, England must be responsible for Rohingya immigrants, it is England who placed them in Yanmar.
Don't let cases like Jewish/Israeli immigrants happen again. It was all the work of the British who mobilized & in the end Israel colonized Palestine.
Everything the British did was at the root of potential conflict after centuries, and this was more than just the bombs the British dropped.
@DoD1009 ah yes, the "blame the imperialists" because they could see far into the future and understood everything so perfectly. Self-accountability us irrelevant when long-gone empires can be blamed. Don't get mad at me though, it was the Romans that set me up for this comment
@@DoD1009 I wish the Western nations had never encountered the Middle East or Africa. I also wish I could see if they had all our technology. It would be very interesting to see what they had achieved. Of course there would be no Palestine because the Romans would never have been there.
Bro even Ben was flabbergasted by that take 💀
This is what happens when you mix ignorance and arrogance.
Well said sir !! Well said👏💪🙏👊👍👌🤟🤌😇
You could say that about both of them.
@@pharmerdavid1432Where is his ignorance displayed?
not to mention there is such a fine line between the two...
@@pharmerdavid1432 Shapiro is ignorant? Do share.
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Palestinians declared war on Israel in October 2023 and that's it. Israel is simply continuing what Palestinians started. Why no one is actually asking Palestinians to stop this? Why no one is asking them to stop fighting this lost battle?
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@@michaiahelmehdi9911 Before 2023? Do you mean in 1948 when Israel was created and Palestinians and all the neighbouring countries declared war on Israel? Just 24 hours after the creation of the Israeli state.
Isreal stoal palastines land and killed them and kicked them out of their houses and u still call hamas the terrorists
@@rgarcia0808 You conveniently hid the fact that Irgun, Palmach, Leti etc were going around massacring villages around British Mandate between 1947-48 BEFORE the state was even created, and that is why the neighbouring counties declared war haha. Busted ;)
Oh look another one who believes everything started on October 7th, no it started in 1948 with the slaughter and forced displacement of Palestinians. The Israelis call it independence day, the Palestinians call it the Nakba (catastrophe). Funny how history works and this is actually a vicious cycle caused by the Israelis. Pressure produces back pressure, simple law of nature.
Scariest part of this is the fact that she is in college and has no idea what she is protesting.
Not just college - she’s a student at Oxford University
Geneva Convention of 1949 was why it is now illegal and before was just immoral.
@@franksanz1044not anymore 😂
Why?
@@tgjurassic9229what did I miss?
I don't understand how full grown adults are so ignorant about the facts of history.
because they are brainwashed by religious preachings and brain-dead preachers.
BUT is she really grown up? Possibly in her early 20's leading her debate purely off emotions and Ben is a Harvard lawyer graduate who loves to destroy crybabies. He has training in debates and casting doubt in any argument thus rendering them incapable of defending themselves. I would have said YES Britain was wrong killing any civilians but one would hope we learned from our past mistakes and is the whole reason why United nations was established in the first place. Ben Shapiro thinks revenge is the solution, kinda like when the Americans justified obliterating the native Americans because they attacked their settlers after they expanded out West into their territory. Sound familiar?
they just cant accept it that their buslim brothers are loosing side.
Because they dont teach real history. All they're told in "History class" is WHITE PEOPLE BAD and Marx was a saint and how the Romans werent all white and bullshit like this
Oxford students are not full grown adults lol
These peanuts would argue Britain should have taken the bombing and not done any back
This woman is just embarrassing herself.
Britain wasn't bombing civilians, eh? She needs to get her parents a refund on her education...😅😂🤣
Chances are her parents are not paying for her indoctrination, I mean education.
Well yeah, when the curriculum just goes over how to hate Jewish people, the entirety of Israel… you’re gonna miss a few historical points
1234 occupation no more 5678 israel is a terrorist state from the river to the sea Palestine will be free🇵🇸🇵🇸❤️❤️ free palestine 🇵🇸
That was just bad. I’m sure her husband back handed her later
She went to a school in Boston and my guess is Wellesley
This university is embarrassing itself by putting up these students to speak.
Everyone has an opinion the god 🙏 she is not an Yankee because she will not be allowed to speak littarly 100 year's ago in Britain.Freedom of speech has definitely came a long way.
Ben is embarrassing himself hanging about college picking on kids. He loves Israel so much why is he not over fighting instead of trying to manipulate others to do so
These so-called smart people should read historical articles having to do with wars! Stop hiring stupid professors who only teach made-up racist issues!
Why cause people are not brainwashed by who controls the narrative.Just cause ben says hamas everytime people bring up citizens shows how disengenous he is.I mean look at iraq war ect and how america funded alot of them.Comparing one just to excuse the idf actions is disgusting.
@@Link2TQwhat a 30 yr old student?? Nice gaslight thou
Notice how he calls all Palestinians Hamas.
Notice how the U.N. calls all Hamas Palestinians
Polls show they support them so 😬
Pfff he's debating 1 year college girl . What a coward
These protesters have NO IDEA what they're even talking about
And you do?
says the one who watches news owned by jews
If you do then please explain to us!
They really don't. They are completely ruled by emotion. They are not using their brains!!!
Yea it's like debating toddlers. They need protesters that are prepared with historical facts and political knowledge to debate. Ben Shapiro has training in debates. That's it. Ben loves destroying unprepared cry babies.
It's clear that schools have stopped teaching history.
It started a long time ago. Back when I was in high school, many many many many years ago, I had a very young female history teacher that had recently graduated with her teaching credentials and landed this teaching job. I was a slacker back then but I enjoyed reading history. One day she made a comment about something we had in our textbook and I raised my hand, then questioned her how she knew that her version of history was more accurate than the text book. She said, out loud for all to hear "because it's what she had learned in College". Even at the tender age of 16 I knew we were in trouble if teachers were being taught opinions veiled as facts in College. Unfortunately for her, a few days later she gave us all an assignment where we had to pick a subject of historical significance and give a speech in front of the class about the subject. When my turn came I chose to give a speech on how the teachers knowledge of history was wrong. I spoke for over 20 minutes non-stop. My classmates were stunned because I never showed any interest in any of my other classes and always stayed silent. The teacher was mortified and gave me an F for that exercise and flunked me for the year. That's when I knew education was in trouble and it's gotten worse ever since..
Sun le agar tune attack Banna shuru khatm nahin karana teri jaan Teri chaddi padi Teri Gand maar
What war you israelis are fighting for? Isn't it to continue the illegal & illegitimate occupation of Palestine over the graves of innocent men, women & children? Shame on you!
Or the student didn't bother to learn it
THEY WANT THEIR VERSION teaching.
She knows everything about America and Japan's history probably through Pearl Harbour... The movie.
This is not our conflict. The uk is not your country.
The audience’s reaction to her ignorance said it all!
Well is Islam a womans word is worth 1/2 of a man.
It was a relief that the audience knew better
London's pro-palestine protests outmatches the pro-zionism protests. That says a lot too.
Shes wrong but the comparisons are ridiculous to say the least
She's definitely a Cooyon.
“You should talk to people in Dresden but you can’t cuz they’re dead”💀
🤭
Damn straight that was the real Holocaust, they don't like talking about the holodomer either.
And the people of Dresden didn’t get weeks notice before the bombing. These people have no clue what they are supporting 🤦🏽♂️
the thing is israel is wrong in this conflict
Please do explain why?
I can gurentee to you, if any countey had to deal with the same crap Gaza/Hamas had done, Gaza and ALL their residents would cease to exist...
Even the so called countries who support Gaza and Palestinians
College tuition hard at work here.
Oh German civilians weren’t killed in WW2…this was said in Oxford University she is now a global joke. As someone of German & Dutch heritage who lost relatives due to bombing in WW2 I can’t believe she has been allowed to say this
Oxford cleared my fomo of studying in oxford with this.
Muslims are a global joke
Freedom of speech allows you to say anything. Exposes the hypocrites and liars.
I am from Chemnitz (Germany). I had and still have relatives in and near Dresden. My family lost members (civilians).
Still, this didn't make me angry. The first time I heard her, I broke out in laughter. 😂
Don't get me wrong. It's not funny that some of my relatives died. But her stupidity truly is hilarious. ^^
Probably the RAF didn't see any other chance to force the Nazi terror regime and the German civilians -who elected and supported them!- to surrender. These civilians had to pay the price for their voting and support.
Today in Isreal both sides should aks themselves why do "they" hate "us". Both sides hide from their guilt. Palestinians voted for this terror regime for a long time and Isrealis voted for a government who is constantly braking UN laws by building Isreali cities on the territory of the Palaestinian State.
She is how most young people think today, no clue.
I’m a 21 year old Canadian man (west coast BC) and I am both proud of myself and disappointed of my generation that I do not think like most of my fellows within my age group. Probably.. -I can't really attest from my own personal experience to generally how moral and rational, or ignorant and delusional their thinking & ideology is, because since I moved cities last year, every single one of my friends that I hang out with in person now are older than me. At least 25, but most are early to mid 30’s and some in their 40’s, and that’s all because of the community that I surround myself with now.
My current friends didn’t shape my ideology, I realized the BS of the progressive left as soon as I became interested in understanding politics, which started from my distrust and frustration with Trudeau, so I’m consistently puzzled why other young people my age strayed way off into left field (pun intended) with the “regressive” ideology. My best guess is social conformity, kids my age are parrots, and I find they struggle to put themselves in the shoes of the other side, especially when they’re emotionally worked up. They are often ignorant and they don’t look for impartial answers, they don’t know how to, and where to look for these answers, nor do they ask questions in attempt to understand the facts and the history of concepts that they have so many opinions about. They can’t admit to themselves or others when their feelings or opinions are effectively irrational but not affectively irrational, and don’t know that is normal and okay. Unable to separate emotional thought from rational thought.
They are seemingly unable to try and separate their feelings from the reality that benefits our society as a whole and how to weigh the personal cost that their uninformed political outrage detriments their own mental, emotional, social, and spiritual wellbeing. Seems that many of them struggle to prioritize and regulate how much attention they give to that political emotion. And understandably so, because we’re still kids, we’re freshman in adulthood, many are growing up quickly and as a result are being radicalized at a young age where our emotional, moral, and rational regulation is underdeveloped. So just like how many people everyday are finally waking up to this madness, I hope my generation will follow. There will always be radical crazies, and they’re the loud minority, but I hope my generation will grow up and recover from their social homogeneity contagion and form their own opinions without fear of being canceled by their university peers.
Thought I’d just share from my view as a young person and hopefully I could bring hope to at least 1 person, that there are still young people that believe in merit and the principles that make American society the best and most prosperous in the history of the world. I love Canada, I love the United States, I love freedom, and I love truth, even if it hurts sometimes. If you read allat thank you for listening to/reading my spiel, I hope my insight was helpful or interesting.
@@ben9610 please add some periods. I had a stroke reading that.
Nah, she's just brainwashed and biased af.
Bah, what a time we live in, where a geno cide is justified because "in a war almost 100 years ago civilians have been bombed so we repeat it". Shame on this grown up man who should be leading the new generations, not be on the devils side. What a world, what a world...
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This guy is so annoying !
This will be remembered as the Age of Stupidity.
If we survive.
😂😂😂😂 good one.
Ben is not stupid he is ideological biased and immoral in this topic.
And we have unimaginable levels of intelligence in the palm of our hands, yet learn only what feeds our desires
@@jorge-7121 She*
@@KelvinSG she is not stupid , she is correct in this topic which shows she is intelligent, she is not educated or prepared enough to articulate her position.
History lessons are urgently needed all over school
This is embarrassing
I agree - however, it’s not only embarrassing: it’s humiliating & terrible!
Agreed. Both Ben and the student can benefit from history lesson.
Yes, the British may very well be wrong today if the German casualties were the result of their indiscriminate bombings. The Geneva Conventions, which provides for the principle of distinction between civilians and combatants were ratified in 1949, after WWII for the very reason to avoid such atrocities to reoccur.
Ben applying the WWII argument here is intellectually dishonest.
Under the political environment now, I picture history lessons as vast plains with countless land mines, and it’s simply impossible to go through. So the lack of proper history lesson is just instructors and education institutions playing safe and not going into land mines.
@@mysara230 everyone with a brain sees it. We also see that she has her hands out in supplication, and he keeps the same cold scowl.
Not a shred of sympathy for the dead children on the other side; he's the same monster he claims to be fighting
@@asdfbeau Nonsense, hamas maggots are targeting Israeli civilians, IMF is targeting hamas maggots who are using their own people as meat shields. You have no clue what you're talking about. Hamas is 100% at fault for death on both sides.
I don't want what she's smoking 🚬 !!!
Palestinian celebrating after hamas attacked Israel
But now they are saying that they are VICTIMS
Israeli celebtate after attack 1948 to 2023 but when the resistance defended its people the israeli becom victims
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ben’s face when she said britain wasn’t bombing civilians 😂
Israel is not bombing civilians right now?
You should see Ben’s face every time he denies debating with Muhammad hijab bc he knows he can only win against college students😂
@@MrBLaCktech they may be. But that’s a well known terrorist tactic used by daesh/ISIS, Taliban, and others. Hide among the civilian population for cover. They don’t care that their actions are putting their own people in danger, so why should the IDF? They have barracks in hospitals and schools, in civilian housing. Israel told the Palestinians what was going to happen, and told them to leave and go south, and their own people called them traitors and fired rockets at them near the Egyptian border. The ones who chose to stay made an error in judgement. At this point, who’s to know who’s a civilian and whose a terrorist?
@@MrBLaCktechSure they are. And Israel is getting missiles and had "troops" go into Israel and shoot and RPG civilians. Tit for tat. Gotta love religion
@@huda2633I'm not a fan of ben, but I've never seen an Arab or Muslim debate that wasn't based on their own religious nonsense. so I highly doubt anyone even cares about the guy you're talking about 😂
Apparently it's only a war crime if your side is losing
both sides are making war crimes, does that make murdering children ok? from either side, its wrong and people should protest and ask for stopping the war
or if it's been recognized ethnic cleansing by the UN since 1948
Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!
Donquixote Doflamingo
which it hasnt.@@whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
@@whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatthe un? Who the fuck cares what the un says the international community is a joke and a pushover they have not yet called out China for its active genocide in china
its a false equivalent argument.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
He is so brilliant in so many aspects and it just seems like his mind is clouded and brainwashed when this topic is ever brought up😢
@@aricanaan1266You'd like that, wouldn't you?
Sadly that’s what conservatives like Ben thrive on.
@@cartreezy1631 I voted for Democrat but I f~~king love Ben. He's on point.
While it’s unfortunate, the left doesn’t teach history anymore. The left does not want you to be informed. The left just wants you to fall in line and support whatever position they take. I guess that’s why colleges are universities are more indoctrination than education. This woman is a good example of how ignorant and passionate a person can be on an issue. She does not know what’s she is talking about, she has no interest in finding out, and she is willing to die for it. 🤪🤪🤪
If you don't want war you shouldn't start war.
If only you were born in the 1920’s😭. Your answer could really at the least stopped Hitler from starting world war and stopped this current conflict from even happening
Do you understand that Israel started this war?
@@MAzurburga lot of them don’t and they refuse to acknowledge it. I’ve seen Israelis that’s say “yea but do you see what Palestinians and Muslims teach in their religion?” As if that’s an excuse to have the audacity to come to someone’s currently claimed land and fight for a piece of it without going by their rules… quite the audacity.
@@jaesonmills2588 from what I heard GOD gave the Israelis that land. No man can take it away.
@@MAzurburg This conflict go on like 70 years maybe? Thats two diffrent religions what do people expect? The problem is, you dont fight for freedom like that. This hiding rats are killing their own people like now. If you want to fight, you do this not using civilians like shields who just want to live their lives.
Maybe she's right and "civilian civilians" are different than civilians.
Dude really compared ww2 to innocent Palestinians dying by bombardment.
And people are shamelessly gobbling it up. Shapiro is a dog.
Yeah ww2 was far worse. Unfortunate comparison.
"INNOCENT" ?! 😂
I wonder what happened to all the Jews that were in Palestine...
@@asmyself4021 you failed remember
@@dougbowen5822 They were killed by arabs.
The minute she said Britain wasn’t bombing civilians… her argument was dead. 💀
It wasn’t even tactically sound. It was all about revenge. Easy to Monday morning quarter back now. But ask your average English person in 1945! “Fuck them krauts” I’d imagine.
Way before that.
Who, in 100 a.d., owned Judea ?
Italy has the best claim of everyone.
@@skaetur1 Maybe Persia (Iran) would have a better claim than Italy.
@@Diccie Well they were the cause of 55 million dead.
@@skaetur1 It was the Kingdom of Israel in the north before that.
Ignorance is prolific stupidity is ingrained. It's systemic.
It is afterall a re-education camp for the left