1982 25 Hp Johnson Link, Sync, & Carburetor Setup. Will it run pt 2
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- It's This Old Outboard. 1982 Johnson 25 hp. So far, what we know is, Good Compression, Got Spark and the Fuel System screwed up. Carb High Speed Jet Clogged, Slow Speed Needle 10.5 Turns Out. The Linkage is slightly worn in the typical places and makes synchronizing a little difficult. But it Runs!
Shouldn't take much, some TLC and it will Run another 30 years!
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Thanks for the video. I have the same motor. It sat for 20years at my grandma's house. Cleaned up the carb. Replaced the water pump. Good to go.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I luv when that happens! Stay tuned !
You have helped me and my brother tune up our dad's old motor. Can't tell you thanks enough, for doing these videos. They are so helpful. We have this exact motor......yeah, baby!!!!
Glad to help!
These two videos got my 1978 Johnson 25 HP running like clockwork. Thank you! =)
Hey. Thanks for watching and commenting. Glad to hear that! Thanks again & Stay Tuned !
Great methodical approach! Thank you for these videos!
Thanks for tuning in!
loving these videos, i have a 1977 johnson 35 hp im trying to bring back to life, followed all your videos on the similar hp models, cleaned carbs, spark tests, fresh fuel, fixed leaking fuel lined, compression test was similar to the 25 HP you had with the sticky rings, can get it to huff at me and blow white smoke but thats all so far, the fight continues !
Hey. Thanks ! Hang in there it will Run! Hahaha Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Hey recently found your channel and love it! Recently started fixing a 28HP and had a very similar issue with the idle speed screw, did the same fix you did and its running great again. Thank you!
Hey Joe. Thanks for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it. Glad it worked out for you! Thanks again and stay tuned!
Great video. Never that cold in Townsville Australia. Enjoy watching your channel. Stay safe🍻🍻
Hey. Thanks. Really appreciate you watching and commenting. Stay tuned !
Crack Me Up, It's cold..haha'''' Me 40 +++ Years Of Alaskan winters, You Rock Dude.. Never miss a episode 4 sure. kodibass
Hahaha. Brrrrrrr! Thanks again !
Yep, That cracked me up too and I live north of Seattle
It is tough for us Floridians to acclimate to anything colder than 40! Haha!
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 you on fb
@@impalaman2003 hey. i do have an account but i just use it for access to marketplace. nothing to do with this channel
As always very awesome vids pal.
Hey. As always, Thanks ! Stay tuned !
LOL! 34 years of doing just what you're doing here,,, now I see how nutso I've been~!~!~!~ Funny when you see someone else do what you do........ you see things so much better!!!!!!! Cheers to you from Wilmington, N.C. !!! I'm still doing this at 67, still really luv the heck outta this work!!!!
Hahaha. I knew I'm not the only one! Thanks for tuning in. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks again and Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 Hi and hope you're safe and healthy and turning your wrenches ~!~ I'm still crazy about J & E outboards~!~!~ I still have the love for this work~!~ God bless!!!! Sonny.
@@newmoon54 thx
Hey great video and nice to help the guy out.!!! 🙂 👍🏻👍🏻
Hey Thanks ! Stay tuned !
Got to love them old 25 👍my favorite
Yep. Thanks for watching !
Keep them videos coming, I wish you live forever, learned lots from your vids, thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in!
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 make me laugh as well, Keep them coming.
@@tuyo_adventures.2185 thx
Thanks again for everything learned a lot. Just got the thermostat and gasket replace. I Snapped the idle screw trying to adjust it lol... I’ll drill it out and tap it for a new screw
Hey. Sounds good!
The fire starting reminds me of S___t that happens to me working on our motors!!Ha ha!!!
Hahaha. It's the real life saga!
I just picked up a 1980 Johnson 25 hp with electric start. I got it running today with the help of your carb video. The only way I get higher rpm is moving the linkage with my hand. The tiller handle and throttle are stiff as hell. I know nothing about these but will soon from your videos. I twist the throttle and it doesn't rev up. You rock! I'd be proud to buy you a beer. Thanks for the knowledge.
Hey. Thanks. I appreciate that. Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 My tiller handle only turns far enough to advance the timing. It doesn't go far enough to open butterfly in carb. I will go through all your videos to maybe find a solution. The local boat shop wanted $300 to put a carb kit in. Ha ha ha screw them! It was simple to clean and now at least runs.
@@joel19604cable is poetically stretched out. There should be an adjustment nut. Follow the line and make it tight
@@dgage1776 my question was a few years ago. I have learned that it needs to be in forward gear to get full throttle.
Loved the video.
Hey. Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !
Favorite video so far!
Thanks for tuning in!
As for the gearcase thrust washers breaking down (???), I'd check the propeller shaft for trueness. Stay safe and be merry !
Thanks again for tuning in!
You know you’ve done good when she starts up first pull!
Thanks !
I have the same motor and it was taken great care of. There's not an ounce of grease or residue in the carburetor or the fuel pump or literally anything it looks like this guy cleaned it every time he ran it. Just bought it. Wasn't staying running. Watched this video. Adjusted carb and idle. Starts first try and stays running now.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in!
Thanks for the video! Just a friendly suggestion. I use a heat gun sometimes to loosen stuck items instead of a flame. FYI, I had a flame out situation that did not turn out as well as yours did on this video. just saying... Keep em coming! Jimmy
Hey thanks. Appreciate you watching and commenting. Yeah got lucky that time. Thanks again !
Good job !!!
Hey. Thanks for watching and commenting. Really appreciate it. Stay tuned !
I hear sirens in almost all your videos, thought for sure there for a few seconds they would be coming to your place. 🤣🤣🤣
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Stay Safe Brother
Hahaha. Not yet! Thanks again !
This is the first video of yours I've seen. I have a 87' 15hp Mariner and 93' 25hp Johnson I'd love for you to clean up and tune up. Haha. You seem like an awesome dude. I'd love to share a conversation over a few beers with you. Haha. Keep up the content brother!
Hey. Thanks. Really appreciate you watching and commenting. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Enjoyed watching you act in the Netflix movie "Braven"
Hey. Hahaha Thanks for tuning in!
I have the 1981 Brother . sweet old motor . I see your shacks all so . Wish I had another for parts .
Hey. Thanks for tuning in!
Simple things awesome 👍👍 I own a 1969 Johnson out board 25 horse on a 1962 14 foot star craft boat. It's rated for a 40 horse.
Thanks for tuning in!
Love the show, quick question- What type of sealant did you use on the the fuel pump diaphragm? I asked because my gasket for my carburetor leaks and I replaced the gasket twice, so I was thinking about using a little bit of sealant to keep it from leaking.
Hey. Its called Aviation for a gasket. Think I got it at Nappa. Thanks for tuning in!
Jedi outboard master
Hey. I'm lucky I remembered ! Hahaha Thanks for tuning in!
Awesome is the best cleaner I found plus it’s cheap !
Yeah. I use it as a prewash grease remover on my laundry too! Thanks !
Old grease can get hard as a rock for sure this shows just a little DNC dusting and cleaning go’s a long way. And 37 isn’t that cold for a boat ride just got to go slower or the tears freeze to your face.
Hahaha Too cold for me! Thanks again !
hi great video just got a 1/2 cabin with this motor on it what fuel mix is it was told 25 to 1 then 50 to 1 please help last owner didnt remember
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. 50:1
Glad to see you are using a barrel now to run your motors. If ya wanna have some fun...add some Dawn soap in that barrel and it will flush the crap out of the motor.
Yeah its been awhile since I've had any barrels. Yep, outboard bubble bath! Hahaha Thanks again Flashback for tuning in!
Cold? Ya need to head more south!!
Yeah like Hawaii ! Hahaha Thanks for tuning in!
I got a 79 Johnson 25 hp I just gave it a major service and now have to dial in the idle! This video should help! Sow there are only two adjustments to make the idle screw on the outside of housing and the low idle on the carb right? How do you adjust timing on these motors?
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. The timing is set with the marks on the throttle cam and cam follower or "roller". The carb butterfly needs to start opening just as the roller is between the 2 marks on the cam. Check out the 9.9/15 hp sections at leeroysramblings.com, that's where I learned everything. It's the same procedures for the 25hp and lots of good stuff too. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
I think the outboard was feeling the chill too. It had the hippy, hippy, sneazy shakes. Was it the cold or the motor mounts? Me thinks the motor mounts. The outboard is from either Wisconsin or Ontario so it must not mind the cold as much as the mechanic. I don’t usually bother with those idle screws. It’s common to see them bent. I normally turn them out and use the throttle to control the idle speed. And doing it that way has the added benefit of being able to use the twist throttle to shut the outboard off. Another good one - always entertaining.
Hey. Thats a cool idea. Thanks for tuning in!
THIS OLD OUTBOARD It saves you from having to throw a rag in the flywheel if the stop button fails.
Hey man first of all great videos I wanted to ask you if you recommend Champion or NGK spark plugs on these Older Johnson
Hey man thanks. Well the Champions are recommended but some people like the NGK better. I've always gone with the champions. Only way to really find out is try a set of each and see which ones you like best! Thanks again and stay tuned!
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 sounds good i appreciate your feed back. Keep up the good work
Obi wan, I'm thinking about replacing my '76 25hp with a 15 to get better performance trolling. This is on a 16' starcraft utility boat. Should I be able to tune my 25hp to run well enough at closed throttle that I can troll reliably or do you think I should go to a smaller motor? I'm also thinking about pulling the trigger on a new 4 stroke but want to exhaust other options first.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Use the Force! Hahaha. I personally would stay with the 25 especially on a 16' boat. I would think the smaller motor would have to work a little harder depending on the load. You should be able to get what you want from the 25, the 70's 25's were light in weight and had the guts to push a load around. Don't forget to "run it" every once in a while, while trolling to blow out the carbon build up. You will like the 4 stroke because they are so quiet while trolling, you dont even know they're running. If you get one, you may want to go with a used one. A lot of people buy them and end up hating them and go back to their 2 stroke. Let the Force guide you. Hahaha check this out just for laffs, czcams.com/video/qMyeSS5KDNw/video.html. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Great videos man. Thanks for posting these. I’ve just bought a small skiff with a 1985 Johnson 25hp E25TECOS. It runs really good, except at WOT. However, if I pump the fuel ball it runs fine. I’m guessing the fuel pump, but the guy said he rebuilt it 3 years ago. He also said he couldn’t remember if the carb had ever been rebuilt. Could a carb issue also be cured by pumping the fuel ball? Could timing be off just a little and cause the same thing? Last thing, this is a 14ft skiff. The guy installed a 12 gallon tank in the front of the skiff and ran hose to the back, and put in a fuel water separator before the fuel ball. It seems to get fuel just fine, but could that be too much distance for that little fuel pump? Any guidance is appreciated. Thanks.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. 3 years is a long time. And yes, pumping the primer to recover could be a pump issue. I would just go back to basics and pull the carb off and clean/check the high speed orifice/jet in the bowl and check the float and needle and replace if need be. Then you'll have piece of mind and know everything is good. Same with the pump, rebuild or just replace. You can get pumps and rebuild kits on ebay pretty cheap but beware of the cheap chinese carb kits, they're junk! And check all the fuel line connections (air leaks) from the tank back, make sure the tank vent is open. I don't really know if having that much distance with the tank makes a difference or not. Check your throttle linkage settings and timing marks on the cam, the butterfly should just start to open as the cam follower or roller is between the 2 marks, at wide open throttle the butterfly should be perfectly horizontal, the roll pin on the butterfly shaft should be perfectly vertical. Some carbs will stop opening at WOT some dont depending on the model. If the butterfly goes past perfect horizontal position it will sputter at high speed. Check out my carb cleaning video if need be. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Carb Cleaning Video czcams.com/video/401zCRctu1c/video.html
www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1985&hp=25&model=E25TECOS
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 thanks for the quick reply. I will check the carb linkage. I will say that when you go from zero to WOT, the cam and carb seem to be in sync, but at WOT the cam stops and the carb continues to open and the cam roller comes off of the cam and goes forward. Does that sound correct? Also, just before the engine stalls at WOT, it revs up, indicating to me a lean situation. The carb is running so well I hate to take it apart if that isn’t it. It idles and runs at all speeds perfect except WOT. I’m wondering if the timing and carb setting isn’t perfect.
@@rjyoungjr yes. thats normal on the linkage, check the butterfly position at wot, takes a minute . but the rev before it stalls isn't. something weird is going on. float position/needle sticking? there is no lean/rich settings at high speed only at idle/slow speed setting on the needle adjustment. high speed orifice/jet, butterfly position and linkage control the fuel/air mixture. you'll have to go through it. welcome to outboard repair 101.
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 thanks. I was thinking maybe it was going lean because it was starving for fuel until I pumped the ball. I’ll check the carb butterfly. That could be a potential issue. It only does it when I go the last 1/8 inch turn on the throttle. Thanks for the feedback. I’ll clean the carb and check the fuel pump.
I'm trying to check my timming on a 1980 25hp johnson,the joe reeves way,but i cant figure out what im supposed to wire tye wide open to do it right.I watched you do a 55hp but my motor is different.
Hey. I guess you'll have to put it in gear or disconnect the shift linkage to get the plate to full throttle position on a 25. Or maybe pull the shift lock arm back.? Anyway. There has to be some way to hold the plate at WOT position against the spark adjusting screw/stop. Hard to say without looking at it. If you cant figure it out, get someone to hold it while you hit it with the timing light. Here's the procedure if you didn't look it up already. Thanks ! forums.iboats.com/threads/joe-reeves-wot-timing-procedure-verified.225947/
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 thanx for getting back to me,today is sunday,88degrees out and dead calm,and i feel a nap comming on,lol,will work on it tomorrow.
Hey this old outbord my friend. I got a new 1994 mariner 40 made by Yamaha great motor love it. But the old motor i had is my 1985 20 hp johnson it got hot coming in from fishing last year in the summer and it was a lizard in the water jacket lol now it runs but doesn't have the best compression I wanted to know if you wanted it two hundred bucks cash come and get it buddy I did put some new parts. New water gasket new head gasket new coils and new wires. And still has problem so I'm done with it I even tried that can of restore you put in a cylinders it's an oil what's some metals in it it's supposed to bring the compression up mundane work. Wold live you to have it. Do some videos with it. Let me khow my friend. Keep up the great videos.👍
No offense meant but if it has low compression its not worth $200 at that point it's just a scrap parts motor 😢
Hey . Thanks for tuning in! It might be something I'm interested in but it would be down the road sometime. I've got my hands full right now. Thanks again !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 you're welcome I just thought I would ask you first cuz you're close by am I a smart point I'll just pull it up on Marketplace
@@randyyoung9892 it could be rebuilt somebody wanted to take the time to rebuild it I put plenty of new parts on it it's trying to get my money back
@@Scottjohnson-kj4hm yeah I understand 👍
i inherited an old motor just like this. What is the correct fuel/oil mix for it? Very helpful video; i expect i'll be referring to it as i get into fixing it up.
Hey. Thanks for watching and commenting. 50:1 on the mix. Thanks again and Stay tuned !
yes sir, i dont think there is a thermostat either, since water starts coming out of the exhaust within 3-4 seconds of starting.. Not enough time to heat up that fast.
Hey Mike. Thanks for watching and commenting. Really appreciate it. Stay tuned !
What was that buzzing in the begining? Mosquitos or drones?
Hey Patrick. Thanks for tuning in. Hahaha it was both! Thanks again & Stay tuned !
hi does this model have the part to charge your battery when it is using electric start thanks
Hey. I dont think so. But it wasn't mine so I'm really not 100% sure. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Hello so I have a1975 Johnson 25 and the timing marks on the cam under the flywheel are about 2” left of the roller on the throttle arm how do I adjust that so the roller rides on the cam finger
Hey. thanks for tuning in. On the throttle control gear there should be an idle adjustment screw. The screw should bring the mag plate back to position so the timing can be set. # 83, 84, 85 in the schematic. Thanks again ! www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1975&hp=25&model=25R75B&manufacturer=Johnson§ion=Exhaust+Housing
Someone told me that the screw on the lower side was to tighten up the steering. My motor was moving too easy,side to side and it chopped my trash can that was used to run it in.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. The screw I'm referring to has nothing to do with steering tension or the friction block adjustment. The screw I'm adjusting is the idle stop screw. Go to marineengine.com and look up your year/model. Check the schematics for what you're looking for to tighten up your steering! Thanks again & Stay tuned !
I want to give my 1985 25HP Johnson a good cleaning...is there anything I have to be careful to not get cleaner in while cleaning the bulk of the motor?
Hey. I would stuff a rag in the carb and try not to get it wet under the flywheel. I usually take the leaf blower and dry them off afterward. Never had a problem. Thanks again !
In the "start position" should the cam roller be between the marks? Do i need to give it a little throttle or is the choke enough to start it? I do have some play in my throttle control cable like this motor had, does it just need to be cleaned? 78 25hp Johnson. Thank you and you make working on these things seem much less intimidating.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. In neutral, the ignition plate will hit a stopping point on the plate when you advance the throttle handle. That's start position, normally the choke should be closed on a cold start. When it starts, open the choke, this needs to be done quickly or it will flood and die. After the motor starts, return the throttle handle to a smooth idle position. If it looks like it needs to be cleaned, clean it! A clean Johnson is a happy Johnson! Hahaha Thanks again & Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 thank you so much! I have a throttle control so ill make note of that. I changed spark plugs and cleaned the carb today. I think I was running rich because the idle pin was out 2.5 turns. I bought the motor 2nd hand and realized today that they had 2 different spark plugs. I was going to run non-ethanol gas with 2 stroke oil.....does gas quality actually matter in these older motors? Cheers!
@@mobando45 I've never tested the different fuels in a 2 stroke outboard. But I do use the non-ethanol in my 4 stroke stuff like my pressure washer, because it will sit for long periods of time and the ethanol will gum up and cause problems, even eat the carb bowl up. But with a 2 stroke I see this happening less, or not at all because of the oil being mixed with the gas. I'm sure these old outboards have had many a gallon of ethanol run through them. If you do try testing them let me know if there's a difference. Thanks again !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 hey I have to let you know that with your videos and reading through some of your responses to people's questions I got my 78 Johnson 25hp up and running. Your approach to these motors are amazing and you saved me hundreds of dollars and gave me a better understanding. Keep it up and putting out the great content and teaching us all.
@@mobando45 thx!
The 25 sounds great compared to when you started. haha 10 1/2 turns someone was messing with it for sure. sounds like you have some huge bugs flying around. better get you shotgun out and shoot them down. Haha Damn those drones are noisy
Hey. Yeah it sounds like a swarm of bee's! Thanks again !
How do u clean that old dirty motors we need video about this what material and how
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I usually use some type of degreaser/cleaner like purple power, mean green or awesome cleaner. And scrub it down, if the powerhead is real bad I'll use a toothbrush on it. Then pressure wash it. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 thnx for quick replay
What will happen if I put a 35hp carb on my 1981 25hp johnson? .. will it give it more power ? Just curious ..
Hey Thanks for tuning in. Here's some info. forums.iboats.com/threads/80s-johnson-evinrude-25hp-to-30-35hp-conversion-with-pics.516146/
.... mine had been adjusted in-between the marks .. not right before the two marks ... huh..... I gotta adjust this how you have it. ...
Hey. Don't touch it! the carb butterfly needs to start opening "between" the two marks. I set mine so as the roller,, rolls past the first mark it starts to open between the marks, not before, not after. Yours is fine. thanks again & stay tuned !
Awesome cleaner dollar tree and the one by me red shop rags 5 for a buck I by 10 a a time thanks for the videos
Hey. Yeah it works pretty good. I also use it to get grease of my clothes !
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Hey. Thanks for tuning in!
I had to turn mine out boggy so bad
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I can't twist my throttle in neutral on my johnson 25 1974. and I've spent all night on It tryina figure it out, any advice?
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Take it apart and clean it, Probably full of old hard grease, or corroded up. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 Thanks for the advice, how would I take it apart? I have taken the tiller handle off but its still stiff. thanks
@@breadscout go to marineengine.com and look up the year/model of your outboard. check the schematic of all the parts, it will show you where all the nuts & bolts are. thx
Is it like 50 degrees in Florida 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
Hey. Yes its hitting 50 right now. Dropping to the 30's-40's with wind gusts to 25+ later. Thanks for tuning in!
Ok i got a 35hp from 1980 and it have backfire and i can only full gas on the choke do i need to take the carb off? I already cleaned it
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. A true backfire usually means the plug wires are crossed, or the wiring is backwards. Check your wiring. If its not a real backfire, its usually called a "lean sneeze", it's running too lean, to much fuel. If it only runs with it choked, then its not pulling enough fuel through the idle/slow speed circuit and it needs cleaned. There are small holes inside the top of the carb just behind the butterfly. If they're clogged it wont idle. Check out the new video I just posted on the 89 25hp johnson tracker. I go over how to clean them in the video. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 thanks for the answer!! Keep up the good work greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
@@Chris-8888 thx!
Motors pretty beat up. But they keep on runnin
Not to bad for 30 years old. Thanks again !
How cold is it?
Woke up to 37 degrees. Too cold for my old azz! Thanks again !
My old 82 Johnson is a reliable old girl, till my idle done the same, even locked me out of neutral it got that far
But after seeing this it’s back to start first pull every go
But how did you get a starter motor in there haha I need to do the same on mine as it’s hard to get up and pull her from my throne seat
Hey Adam. Thanks for tuning in. You'll need the starter bracket, motor and solenoid for your year/model. Find the part numbers at marineengine.com and search ebay for a good used one. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
How about trying some break free or liquid wrench , ? , frees it up .
I'll give it a shot. Thanks for tuning in!
The only really, really bad things about a 1982 motor was the rotten wire harnesses. They are very bad. They need to be replaced in almost every instance. This was not true of just OMC motors; it was also true of Mercury motors. Whomever the supplier was, he was sold a bill of goods with regard to the quality of the wire material he used to make the harnesses. Don't hesitate to buy a 1982 motor. Just figure in the added cost of a new wiring harness............ BTW: The replacement harnesses from the OEM dealers are fine.
Hey Mike. Thanks for watching and commenting. Really appreciate it. Stay tuned !
Such tough motors but that is so true!!!
If they wrecked the lower unit is because they had to keep it revved up so they could shift it in gear or else it would stall
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Always a possibility ! Thanks again !
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Someone just give me a 25 horse Johnson and he had a hard time get it running too one of my friends he's got a 25 horse Johnson outboard two-cycle and he did everything to him he can't get it running so when he gives it to me I'm going to take it to the shop I don't know what year is it but I know you were all new parts and stuff on it and did everything you can think of I think he's having carburetor problems so he's just going to give me the motor
Hey. Sounds good! 1st thing check the compression, if it's good the rest is just a pain in the azz. Save yourself some money and do the work yourself. They're not that difficult and you need to know your motor. Not to many places know how to work on these older motors. I hear it all the time. Curious to know how it goes. Thanks for tuning in & Stay tuned !
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Thanks again !