Same with CZcams reviews. "They sent this to me to review" is when you raise your awareness of how truthful the information you are watching may or may not be. Not saying they are dishonest...just saying be aware. Keep it going Mikey.
To be honest. I can only count two or three times where I got useful information from a forum. Most responses are so full of bias and B.S. that I do not think I posted a question in the last 5 years or so.
I'm a private life-time Hi-Fi hobby enthusiast (or superfreak freak 🤡), with helas to much of spare time. But i have left all forums. I've tried them all, from late 80's and onwards till recent. The amount of top down, down up bizar unlawful 'gas lighting' I had to endure, is almost suited for a thriller / suspense type movie script!
I don't go on the forms very often and I'm glad you show me how to look out for the scammers I guess I'm just a naïve I just go to the forms to try to get some help deciding whether a product I am looking into buying it's worthwhile buying I was hoping I'm getting honest opinions from people on the form to help make my decision. Thanks Mikey 👍🤟
Disabled, retired, or just crazy (rich nothing else to do) Hi-Fi enthusiastic posting in every minute free time, he or she has maybe...?? And a lot are just payed to post, comment, troll!?
Great episode on this topic my man! So true. I have often wondered about those subscribers that have thousands of posts in a forum. I will for sure be more wize to their games now I have seen this. I wonder how long it will take for them to start using AI bots to shill their wares...?
Mike we are very happy with you. Always 💯% transparent, just the way we like it. No matter what the truth is. I love hearing and listening to the truth. Muchos greetings from the Netherlands Limburg Maastricht and of course coffee beans. Peace Brother and see you next. SSEEYYAAA✌🏾🌍😘💯%☕️
Disabled, retired, or just crazy (rich nothing else to do) Hi-Fi enthusiastic posting in every minute free time, he or she has maybe...?? And a lot are just payed to post, comment, troll!?
Mikey, in the comment section of the JR125 v. AGD Tempo video you posted 2 years ago, you replied to a comment that one can reasonably interpret as your disavowing being an AGD dealer (You wrote, “What idiot would be an AGD dealer when the manufacturer is selling around them, as evidenced by the "Buy it now" button on thier website?”). Perhaps that is how some folks get their misinformation.
They did not say that. They said I "got dumped," which is an outright lie. There's no way to garner that from me admitting I'm an idiot selling alongside a direct sale mfg. There is no misinformation in my statement. So how did they get it? Right, they made it up. People love to put words in other people's mouth. One needs to take statements at face value and not add ones own story to it. I am still that idiot selling alongside the mfg. But I'm a happy idiot. 😊 it's very hard for people to accept truthful statements.
@@OCDHIFiGuy You are referring to the Audiogon thread. I am referring to your reply to @Albert-nj9xm in your January 15, 2022 CZcams video. One reading your reply could reasonably come to the conclusion that you were not an AGD dealer and that perhaps AGD did pause your status as an AGD dealer. That is why @twoleftears said his comment.
Mikey, you have taught us so much regarding the industry. Thank You. Looking forward to see where your vision is with the tribe forum. In the meantime saving that hard earned cash for a visit to Georgia. Mikey Salute!
Always a pleasure to hear you keeping it real Mikey. Im glad I'm not in the hifi game... just an enthusiast. The stuff you sell is of quality. Sad when others are rude and lie. Do you know anything about the new Rane active crossovers ? I notice they are now made in Taiwan...the AC23 3 way stereo model....I purchased an American made one 13 years back for over $1200. The new one seems ok as I took the chance on it. I like their dj mixers too. Does any of the hifi tribe use one of these units? Thanks for any info anyone may have.
Holy crap! I didn’t know such scummy scammers existed! I don’t contribute to Many Forumns though-everyone is an expert when I just want to understand how some piece sounds. If I may suggest?: find out what you like in terms of sound from your hi fi and carefully research components. Then find a decent dealer, say like ocd Mikey here and speak to them. Get a feel if they actually enjoy the hobbey. I’ve only spoken to Mr Mike here a couple times, but he seems like a great partner in audiophile crime. Yea yea ,he has his favorites,but doesn’t poop all over competition. Mr Mike I feel a so passionate about music and geeking out on equipment he is SO into and lives to expand upon it. No smarmy sales pitch. Mikey: try this out, I think it’ll work for you because of x,y,and Z.
I agree with this completely, even including when Mikey discusses equipment he sells as well. Always know who makes money off of information and sales pitches before purchase.
It never crossed my mine about long standing high post cost members to be implants. I think they retired or just love audio. No different from my wife who is on Facebook and Instagram with her 5 sisters. They talk a lot!!!
I don't disagree with Mike's points about people shilling, but it's not all that difficult to rack up a high post count on a forum. I just checked the one I used to be on years ago and I've got over 5000 posts. That was just me sitting at a desk doing my work and posting on the audio forum in the dead spaces throughout the day. If you get engagement with other users any social media can be addictive.
I'd say I was on there about 6 years or so. It was a positive place where most people got along. Sure there were fights and drama, but it was well moderated.@@OCDHIFiGuy
This is all very true. Even to the extent that one of Mikey's favorite brands (but not one that he's an actual dealer for) has a long history of exactly this kind of crap. Understand, I'm not bagging on Mikey as I'm sure he isn't aware. My point is simply that it's far more pervasive than you might imagine.
You mean I talk good about a brand I'm NOT a dealer for ?? You don't say !! Imagine that... yes, it is extremely pervasive. Call and let me know what you are talking about. Would love to know.
Hi Mike - I’m totally in agreement with your assessment of the audio forums, I’ve also been highly suspicious of members with thousands of posts. A lot of times, these folks are also on multiple forums which makes it even more fishy to me. That being said, I just wanted to say that I don’t think it’s fair to suggest that Verdant, the other ADG dealer, and "twoleftears" may somehow be in cahoots. I am in no way suggesting that was your intent, just trying avoid any unnecessary collateral damage. The original post by Verdant was in 2022 and wasn’t brought back to life until your post. Again, I agree with what you’re doing, but one could get the (false) impression that the original post and your post happened concurrently or were least more recent. I will disclose that I purchased a preamplifier from Verdant in the past, but have no relationship with the dealer otherwise. I thought he was great to deal with and very knowledgeable during my purchase - I would hate to see his reputation somehow impugned here. Other than that one point, it's high time we all start taking what's presented on these forums with multiple grains of salt. Thanks
Nothing wrong with Scott at all. Was not saying anything about him, just saying two left ears was plugging him and telling people to steer away from me. Two left ears has the Agenda, not Scott...
Well, this vid is about spreading lies and rumors in Forums, but I'll respond to your transaction statement anyways. Adversarial does not mean dishonest...
@@OCDHIFiGuyWasnt implying that it did. Just facts. The line between honest and dishonest can be pretty gray depending on ones ethics or lack thereof. Great vid by the way! :)
I said it does not affect my sales nor my popularity as they wish. I make a video so blind guys such as yourself can see for once. Lol. And you want to give me shit about it ? Where's YOUR intent ??#notanaudiophile
3 posts a day... it's suspect for you ? : \ I can write 15 to 20 comments on youtube everyday... and probably the same if I spend my day on an audio forum...
You are accusing forum posters for being shills just because they post a lot. Have you been on social media before? The idea that it would be “normal” to post once a day is a bit ignorant. You might consider not accusing people without evidence.
Lol. Total Geek check !!! ✔️ Busted ! Yes, you're a rubber nozzle if you post on the same forum every day for ten years. A Fibblequitz. Shadiggidydork. Lousagna. Pistol holster. Rooster Satchel... lol. Shiiiiii
Lol. Stupid post. Us "Americans" are the last place where anything close to freedom exists. You "non Americans" sure love socialism and lack of freedom don't you ? And we are against the global elite... we can still do something about it, and look what presidential candidate is most popular here. . You guys are toast already...
Disabled, retired, or just crazy (rich nothing else to do) Hi-Fi enthusiastic posting in every minute free time, he or she has maybe...?? And a lot are just payed to post, comment, troll!?
C'mon Mikey, you need to stop dissing people's mothers. (God I thought that was funny...) Its a shame you had to make a video like this... but hey. It's the net. Same shite as Usenet many, many moon's ago.
I'm a private life-time Hi-Fi hobby enthusiast (or superfreak freak 🤡), with helas to much of spare time. But i have left all forums. I've tried them all, from late 80's and onwards till recent. The amount of top down, down up bizar unlawful 'gas lighting' I had to endure, is almost suited for a thriller / suspense type movie script!
This is unhinged. That’s not a schill, that’s a guy repeating an internet rumor.
Whatever it is, it's untruths being spread
@@OCDHIFiGuy bro, what about the whole Devore thing? That’s something to rant about. This is just some random dude on the internet.
Same with CZcams reviews. "They sent this to me to review" is when you raise your awareness of how truthful the information you are watching may or may not be. Not saying they are dishonest...just saying be aware. Keep it going Mikey.
Right on. Agreed.
To be honest. I can only count two or three times where I got useful information from a forum. Most responses are so full of bias and B.S. that I do not think I posted a question in the last 5 years or so.
There it is...
It's pretty easy to ID the shills. Audiogon has some really obvious ones. They are always cocky as*holes.
I'm a private life-time Hi-Fi hobby enthusiast (or superfreak freak 🤡), with helas to much of spare time. But i have left all forums. I've tried them all, from late 80's and onwards till recent. The amount of top down, down up bizar unlawful 'gas lighting' I had to endure, is almost suited for a thriller / suspense type movie script!
@@PulledPorkGarageyea, we get it. You’ve made the same comment twice.
I always suspected that such things occurred on some of these forums. You are doing a favor for the consumers.
Thanks Freud..
I don't go on the forms very often and I'm glad you show me how to look out for the scammers I guess I'm just a naïve I just go to the forms to try to get some help deciding whether a product I am looking into buying it's worthwhile buying I was hoping I'm getting honest opinions from people on the form to help make my decision. Thanks Mikey 👍🤟
Check your sources ! ;-)
Disabled, retired, or just crazy (rich nothing else to do) Hi-Fi enthusiastic posting in every minute free time, he or she has maybe...?? And a lot are just payed to post, comment, troll!?
Maybe not even paid, just no life...
Nailed why I stay away from audio forums......
HEL - LO !!
Great episode on this topic my man! So true. I have often wondered about those subscribers that have thousands of posts in a forum. I will for sure be more wize to their games now I have seen this. I wonder how long it will take for them to start using AI bots to shill their wares...?
Probably happening already..
Mike we are very happy with you. Always 💯% transparent, just the way we like it. No matter what the truth is. I love hearing and listening to the truth. Muchos greetings from the Netherlands Limburg Maastricht and of course coffee beans. Peace Brother and see you next. SSEEYYAAA✌🏾🌍😘💯%☕️
Disabled, retired, or just crazy (rich nothing else to do) Hi-Fi enthusiastic posting in every minute free time, he or she has maybe...?? And a lot are just payed to post, comment, troll!?
Hahaha, This is what happens when your daycare offers free internet .....
Lol. Right ?
Mikey, in the comment section of the JR125 v. AGD Tempo video you posted 2 years ago, you replied to a comment that one can reasonably interpret as your disavowing being an AGD dealer (You wrote, “What idiot would be an AGD dealer when the manufacturer is selling around them, as evidenced by the "Buy it now" button on thier website?”). Perhaps that is how some folks get their misinformation.
They did not say that. They said I "got dumped," which is an outright lie. There's no way to garner that from me admitting I'm an idiot selling alongside a direct sale mfg. There is no misinformation in my statement. So how did they get it? Right, they made it up. People love to put words in other people's mouth. One needs to take statements at face value and not add ones own story to it. I am still that idiot selling alongside the mfg. But I'm a happy idiot. 😊 it's very hard for people to accept truthful statements.
@@OCDHIFiGuy You are referring to the Audiogon thread. I am referring to your reply to @Albert-nj9xm in your January 15, 2022 CZcams video. One reading your reply could reasonably come to the conclusion that you were not an AGD dealer and that perhaps AGD did pause your status as an AGD dealer. That is why @twoleftears said his comment.
Mikey, you have taught us so much regarding the industry. Thank You. Looking forward to see where your vision is with the tribe forum. In the meantime saving that hard earned cash for a visit to Georgia. Mikey Salute!
I appreciate that!
Always a pleasure to hear you keeping it real Mikey. Im glad I'm not in the hifi game... just an enthusiast. The stuff you sell is of quality. Sad when others are rude and lie. Do you know anything about the new Rane active crossovers ? I notice they are now made in Taiwan...the AC23 3 way stereo model....I purchased an American made one 13 years back for over $1200. The new one seems ok as I took the chance on it. I like their dj mixers too. Does any of the hifi tribe use one of these units? Thanks for any info anyone may have.
Not played with Rane. Taiwan is solid.
thanks Mikey to make me aware of these rats i wasn't aware of it until now ✌🏻
You bet !
Mikey always keeping it real!
Been a while since I've commented on your channel.
Glad to be back!
Welcome back!
Dealer reviews are quite useless.. It's a marketing / sales video...
True
Exactly
Thats why Mikey should also try to introduce his products with someone elses opinion too
@@kristofvadnai7468 The challenge is to find someone that is truly objective.
@@ptg01 Even then, two peoples' opinion is worth more
Holy crap! I didn’t know such scummy scammers existed! I don’t contribute to Many Forumns though-everyone is an expert when I just want to understand how some piece sounds.
If I may suggest?: find out what you like in terms of sound from your hi fi and carefully research components. Then find a decent dealer, say like ocd Mikey here and speak to them. Get a feel if they actually enjoy the hobbey. I’ve only spoken to Mr Mike here a couple times, but he seems like a great partner in audiophile crime. Yea yea ,he has his favorites,but doesn’t poop all over competition. Mr Mike I feel a so passionate about music and geeking out on equipment he is SO into and lives to expand upon it. No smarmy sales pitch. Mikey: try this out, I think it’ll work for you because of x,y,and Z.
Thanks 😊
This is actually very relevant for the hobby. Well done man
Thanks Buddy...
I agree with this completely, even including when Mikey discusses equipment he sells as well. Always know who makes money off of information and sales pitches before purchase.
Absolutely. It's weird when people try to hide it.
It never crossed my mine about long standing high post cost members to be implants. I think they retired or just love audio. No different from my wife who is on Facebook and Instagram with her 5 sisters. They talk a lot!!!
Never crosses a lot of people's mind. They know this... lol.
I don't disagree with Mike's points about people shilling, but it's not all that difficult to rack up a high post count on a forum. I just checked the one I used to be on years ago and I've got over 5000 posts. That was just me sitting at a desk doing my work and posting on the audio forum in the dead spaces throughout the day. If you get engagement with other users any social media can be addictive.
How many years? No addiction is good.
I'd say I was on there about 6 years or so. It was a positive place where most people got along. Sure there were fights and drama, but it was well moderated.@@OCDHIFiGuy
This is all very true. Even to the extent that one of Mikey's favorite brands (but not one that he's an actual dealer for) has a long history of exactly this kind of crap. Understand, I'm not bagging on Mikey as I'm sure he isn't aware. My point is simply that it's far more pervasive than you might imagine.
You mean I talk good about a brand I'm NOT a dealer for ?? You don't say !! Imagine that... yes, it is extremely pervasive. Call and let me know what you are talking about. Would love to know.
Should do Audiomart as well. It’s much, much worse over there. Those Canadians sure are something else 😂
North America for sure.. wonder if it's the same in Europe. Anyone know ??
Any chance you will review Atma Sphere or David Berning amps?
I'm not a reviewer...
Hi Mike - I’m totally in agreement with your assessment of the audio forums, I’ve also been highly suspicious of members with thousands of posts. A lot of times, these folks are also on multiple forums which makes it even more fishy to me. That being said, I just wanted to say that I don’t think it’s fair to suggest that Verdant, the other ADG dealer, and "twoleftears" may somehow be in cahoots. I am in no way suggesting that was your intent, just trying avoid any unnecessary collateral damage. The original post by Verdant was in 2022 and wasn’t brought back to life until your post. Again, I agree with what you’re doing, but one could get the (false) impression that the original post and your post happened concurrently or were least more recent. I will disclose that I purchased a preamplifier from Verdant in the past, but have no relationship with the dealer otherwise. I thought he was great to deal with and very knowledgeable during my purchase - I would hate to see his reputation somehow impugned here. Other than that one point, it's high time we all start taking what's presented on these forums with multiple grains of salt. Thanks
Nothing wrong with Scott at all. Was not saying anything about him, just saying two left ears was plugging him and telling people to steer away from me. Two left ears has the Agenda, not Scott...
Understood. Thank You@@OCDHIFiGuy
In a capitalist society ALL business transactions are "Adversarial".
Learned this taking a business class.
Well, this vid is about spreading lies and rumors in Forums, but I'll respond to your transaction statement anyways. Adversarial does not mean dishonest...
@@OCDHIFiGuyWasnt implying that it did. Just facts. The line between honest and dishonest can be pretty gray depending on ones ethics or lack thereof. Great vid by the way! :)
Adversarial? You sound like a professional victim. Are you sure your "class" wasn't "Socialism 101?"
@@MichaelsHiFiAdventures You sound like a bitter salesman! lol :)
@@freeradical6390 LOL - nah. But It's better than being a professional victim.
R3VGEFKR - Mikey's vanity plate! 🤣🤣 Just kidding bro, smoke these snakes out!
You go Mikey!!
Rock on Lemieux !! You play hockey ??
yo who is benzman? looks like he brought you up first and he only has 369 posts.
That's a long story and that guy was one of those customers you would not wish on your worst enemy...
Steamroller
Good morning Mikey….
Wish i got paid 😮
Promote what i use 😮
"If it ain't broke, dont fix it" 😊
LOL! Mikey the legend!! This is why you get my views and subs now….!
Thanks buddy!
Great tip on the # of posts
Glad it was helpful!
If it doesn't bother you why do you make a video about it 😏
I said it does not affect my sales nor my popularity as they wish. I make a video so blind guys such as yourself can see for once. Lol. And you want to give me shit about it ? Where's YOUR intent ??#notanaudiophile
Untill regulatory action is taken, caveat emptor. Ram is sheep’s clothing still applies as your pic monitor represents
That's it. Buyer beware DSaK...RAM protects the Herd...
totally agree bro
Appreciated
3 posts a day... it's suspect for you ? : \
I can write 15 to 20 comments on youtube everyday... and probably the same if I spend my day on an audio forum...
You are accusing forum posters for being shills just because they post a lot. Have you been on social media before? The idea that it would be “normal” to post once a day is a bit ignorant. You might consider not accusing people without evidence.
Lol. Total Geek check !!! ✔️ Busted !
Yes, you're a rubber nozzle if you post on the same forum every day for ten years. A Fibblequitz. Shadiggidydork. Lousagna. Pistol holster. Rooster Satchel... lol. Shiiiiii
@@OCDHIFiGuyI posted on this very A’gon thread 3-4 times on February 8, 2024.
Ridiculous. At least they're not video blowhards. They have real jobs.
Mikey you nailed it brother!
You KNOW IT !!
if such brainwashing and scams are in audio industry - imagine pharma and banking. but you americans love banks and pharma dont you?
Lol. Stupid post. Us "Americans" are the last place where anything close to freedom exists. You "non Americans" sure love socialism and lack of freedom don't you ? And we are against the global elite... we can still do something about it, and look what presidential candidate is most popular here. . You guys are toast already...
@@OCDHIFiGuy and whos your president now? How much debt us has?
Who cares? Talk about something useful.
Says the FORUM reesty farter.... lol. Busted...
Disabled, retired, or just crazy (rich nothing else to do) Hi-Fi enthusiastic posting in every minute free time, he or she has maybe...?? And a lot are just payed to post, comment, troll!?
Jesus man, bot much
C'mon Mikey, you need to stop dissing people's mothers. (God I thought that was funny...)
Its a shame you had to make a video like this... but hey.
It's the net. Same shite as Usenet many, many moon's ago.
I have a problem voicing my opinion in a direct manner. Lol. Doop !
I'm a private life-time Hi-Fi hobby enthusiast (or superfreak freak 🤡), with helas to much of spare time. But i have left all forums. I've tried them all, from late 80's and onwards till recent. The amount of top down, down up bizar unlawful 'gas lighting' I had to endure, is almost suited for a thriller / suspense type movie script!