‘This is an ATTACK on a way of life!’ | Calls for ban on fox hunting blasted by Bonner
Vložit
- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Tim Bonner and Jennifer White debate if Boxing Day hunting should be banned.
#uknews #hunting #foxhunting #boxingday
Keep up to date with the latest news at www.gbnews.com
Join us today and unlock your members-only benefits: gbnews.com/support
Twitter: / gbnews
Facebook: / gbnewsonline
Download the GB News app! You can watch GB News on all of your favourite devices and keep up to date with the latest news, analysis, opinion and more.
www.gbnews.com...
I thought fox hunting was banned
Yes. Just not enforced gy our lazy Police.
@@stephfoxwell4620 The police don't enforce the laws to prevent hunt saboteurs' aggravated trespass either. It's a bit cheeky all these masked and balaclava'd bandits rampaging around private farmland , attacking law-abiding citizens and vandalising private property complaining about people breaking the law. Just saying....
It is we should now ban trail hunting as it's dogs training on for example fox smell. They live in the same areas that the trail hunt takes place so obviously they get hunted. It doesn't work basically.
Bet if it was a Muslim way of life they would steer clear of it
Absolutely 👍
You're absolutely right
100%
Trust a pro hunter to bring Muslims into it to defend bloodsport ffs
@@markrowley2739 he ain’t wrong tho and you know it
I thought our way of life and culture was to face east twice a day, nowadays.
5 times a day brother
Lack of thinking seems to be the main problem here.
Is fox meat halal?
@@Andre-kc9di Technically yes! 🤣
Ban fox hunting! Be civilised.
Repeal the ban.
Of course it’s a smokescreen everybody knows that.
There's nothing 'quaint' about it!
?
Too many laws broken in this sport.
Dogs chasing fox.
Ripped apart by a pack.
Dogs running wild on roads walkways
Not a doggy bag to be seen Dogs fouling every were .
Kennel cough
No control over hounds in public places no leads .
. Cruelty to animals terriers caged in little boxes on board quads ..
No safety on public roads driver in vehicles at danger .
"Dogs chasing fox"
It is not illegal to flush foxes with dogs.
Do you really think huntsmen are supposed to carry around "doggy bags", picking up after each one? Come on!
What is your definition of a "walkway"!? It is not illegal for a hunt to use a public road either. In fact, riders have more right to use a road then you do in your car. You need a licence for your car, but anyone has the legal right to walk or ride along any road except a motorway, in the UK.
What about kennel cough? Is it illegal for dogs to have it? I didn't know that!
You don't have to keep dogs on leads everywhere you know. And imagine thirty to forty fox hounds on leads! And please, what is your definition of a "public place'?
How is it cruel to the terriers? That's an argument I haven't heard before!
How is "driver in vehicles at danger"?
Thought it was banned
Sadly.
Should of properly been banned years ago.
czcams.com/video/_IB3Nr9aduI/video.htmlsi=t7v-PbZaLzf9sA3H
Put what ever colorful label on it you like. Country life etc etc, nothing quaint or colorful about hunting with a pack of dogs to hunt one small fox...when i was a kid in west suffolk used to watch the hunt from higher ground and see the fox running, and on occasion a huntsman would ride up and would ask, did you see the fox.. we said yes and sent them in the opposite direction....
What utter bollocks!!!!
@@rightray7463If Muslims allowed hunting the far right wing would ban it yesterday!
@@rightray7463You are a sick weirdo. Book a one way flight to Switzerland 🇨🇭
@@rightray7463 Phucking hell a POLICY from Reform ! Not a surprising one one which benefits Reforms elite privately educated ESTABLISHMENT backers and supporters!
@@rightray7463 And I am also white British born but I respect diversity and will not take part in anti Islam hate and I refuse to be told to hate difference. Hating difference killed Brianna Ghey (RIP you had the right to be different).
its simply cruel ,
NONSENSE!!!!
@@CeltictribesWhat's the sense?
@@CeltictribesThe only one talking nonsense is you.
@Celtictribes you need your hard drive checking...
@@rightray7463Come on were not all like the royal family years ago!😅
It was a way of life in Britain to watch dogs fight and tear each other to pieces,or cock fights but they were outlawed because civilised behaviour trumps way of life
Only in your tiny bigoted mind.
Tell that to the muslims in our land. Lol
@@MDM1992 This Christmas period, thousands of Western women will get drunk and meet a guy for the first time in their lives and within two or three hours will end up in his bed. Meanwhile, Muslim women will be safe at home with their families as the out of control one night stand behaviour is considered haram in Islam. Which one is more civilised to you?
@@JH-lf4qlBeing just as bigoted doesn't make you any better.
@@daltonadams4672 Where is my “bigotry” please? I think that Britains one night stand culture is a societal ill. Does that really make me *BIGOTED* to say so?
Trail-hunting = Fox Hunting in disguise.
I’m sure the fox doesn’t like it.
I thought it was already banned?
It is. So like usual, they are talking bollocks and topics which are irrelevant and certainly not important issues, considering everything else going on.. lol
It is, but hunts pretend that they have laid 'scent trails' as required by the law...but it is extremely rare to see these people lay trails. They're still deliberately and blatantly illegally fox hunting.
It is but Tory controlled Police are to scared to enforce the law as the senior officers are all Masons and are taking back handers .
Labour left loopholes in the hunting ban on purpose
@@markrowley2739 Lets hope the ban is eventually repealed.
Ban it totally
Way of life ?
Don't make me laugh.
It is a ludicrous invented tradition no more than 150 years old.
Wrong.
@@johncurrie6693 Do explain how it is wrong? Riding to Hunt began in the late 18th century among toffs, and the current ridiculous regalia dates from the 1880s.
@@stephfoxwell4620 How is it ridiculous? If animal welfare was your primary concern, why would you care about what anyone is wearing? And many farmers hunt as well, not just 'toffs'.
Yes they should ban the hunt it is cruel
How is it that Blair instituted two independent inquiries and neither concluded that hunting was cruel? I am stating facts, the true quarry is the people who hunt, they have disgracefully been vilified through a lot of misinformation and rubbish being peddled by people who have a big axe to grind. Be real , the animal welfare issue impact of hunting is a grain of sand compared with mass transportation of live animals and industrial-scale farming (including fish farming). This potential attack by Westminster will be meddling at its worst - socialist style hammer to crack a nut, just tyranny. Concentrate on the real issues.
Exactly. If hunting really were as cruel as is claimed, then Labour would surely have found that easy to prove in the Burns inquiry and boost public support for the ban. The fact that they didn't is rather interesting....
Thanks for the feedback - an example of a minor rural activity, a way of life for many who participate, vilified and bullied, thanks to socialist prejudice and tyranny.
@@nickgent9949 Exactly! And they're coming after falconry now....
DEFRA is apparently proposing a ban on tethering birds of prey, which would effectively criminalise falconry. That would be like banning dog leads, but worse! Mind-blowing.
@@AlexanderTheEvenGreaterThat is socialist style meddling at its worst - disgraceful. There needs to be mass protests if these tyrannical measures are contemplated. Vote REFORM.
Cowards, the lot of them. Pick on something your own size and see where it gets you. That's not going to happen though is it ??
'A quaint countryside tradition.....' Not if you're a fox. I'm a fan of a lot of English traditions. This, however, is one we can do without.
Wally by name & nature.😅😅😅
Derr... don't you know what trail hunting is?
@@Celtictribes he probably disagrees with hunting all together but still eats meat
@@Andre-kc9di
oohhh... what does fox taste like..?
@@Celtictribes What's with all the emoticons? Here is a joke especially for you:
Q: Why do some commenters laugh at their own online humour?
A: Because no-one else does.
a sad tradition of arrogance and status
Rubbish! Al foot hounds in my area & working class.
white collar ?@@Celtictribes
You have proved his point with your comment!
Its becoming a new british tradition discussing fox hunting every boxing day, i used to live next to mod land where foxes were culled regularly n the result was the area teemed with all kinds of smaller wildlife, voles, shrews,weasels, birds, lizards, snakes, frogs etc etc, imo.
Its not the same argument, wildlife control with guns etc as predator control vs what is literally defined as a sport, for sports sake, fox hunting provides no benefit to predator control. It just a narcissistic way to enjoy suffering. Technically, hunting makes the fox gene pool stronger at predation, as only those with the wits to escape, survive. Guns dont discriminate. The energy expended to remove a single fox by a hunt is not efficient. All the cost of those horses and dogs, and half the time they dont get the fox, it can outwit them when they are not digging them out and trapping them for their cause.
The argument they use is they dont hunt foxes. It is banned, they clean boot hunt, so why would fox control be used as an argument by you or them, since the ban unless illegal hunting continues? Its just admittance of hunting foxes with dogs.
This is a sport that makes an animal suffer unnecessarily for the pleasure of sick people who enjoy this sort of thing how barbaric
Its the elites way of life
My wife's granny lived in Surrey, when the local hunt came through the village, they used to gallop across the gardens, ruining their vegetable patches, tearing up the lawns with not the slightest remorse. Typical of the hunting brigade, if the villagers complained they were told to remember their place in society.
Liar ! The Hunt always pays compensation. What possible cause would take horses and hounds off the road and into gardens. Fantasist
@@stirlingmoss4621u watched the Zoom meeting soft lad
Thats one from the jackanory archive i guess.
You may not like the truth but the truth is what it is, the village is Charlwood.
Yeah ok ! I live there too & your comment is a complete fabrication.
It's a way of DEATH, not life!
Maybe you should try & explain that to farmers that get thousands of lambs & poultry killed by fox's every year.
@@CeltictribesThere are other ways to stop foxes on their land. That's why they are not out hunting every day.
@@Celtictribes😂😂😂 you really do need your hard drive inspecting
@@CeltictribesCollateral damage that is factored into the price they charge.
@@Celtictribes Maybe you should get you facts right. For a start, farmers keep their poultry secure. As for sheep and lambs - and even cattle, its DOGS, not foxes, that attack, maim and kill thousands each year, not foxes. I live in rural Dorset, I rarely see a fox but I've seen dogs chasing sheep, seen the notices on gates where public footpaths cross farmland or National Trust land where there's livestock, saying dogs MUST be on a lead, it's the law - and I've seen the dog owners totally ignoring it.
I thought it was banned, they seem to be getting round the laws....taking a pack of dogs can also be dangerous to the public...
Should have been banned centuries ago
czcams.com/video/_IB3Nr9aduI/video.htmlsi=t7v-PbZaLzf9sA3H
I experienced the Hunt saw one as a child in the 60's in Wales.
A pure spectacle not knowing a thing.
This Boxing day I was invited to the Hunt at Chiddingstone.
The hounds were let loose ad mixed with people, large and small dogs.
Nobody was hurt by the hounds, in fact I was surprised how big they were.
I had the pleasure of meeting Nigel Farage there, an advocate of rural traditions.
Nobody discusses the impact of foxes in urban regions but as town/city dwellers the effect that they have there.
For those who want to embrace the rural life in 'suburbia' with chickens will know the risks?
The Hunt may take a fox, but vary rare.
Have we lost our sense of pride in our traditions and become that woke?
Yes. The mainstream media has.
Foxes are rarely able to kill chickens, stupid stories about foxes killing more than they eat is rubbish. They are only acting naturally by seeking food, in the wild they might only be able to catch one if they got lucky. The fact is many chickens traped in a cage means they cannot escape so any predator would act instinctively and kill several because the chickens aren't able run away.
Furthermore, if the owner of chicken coup doesn't ensure their cages are properly built and safe from predators its the responsibility and fault of the owners.
Bloodjunkie perverts fk your sadistic traditions
Yes, sadly.
Vile people doing vile things, i wonder how they would feel if they were trapped in a cage with the same hounds...
Ask the people in Gaza
@@run2cat4run wtf does Gaza have to do with anything, 🤡
Clearly you didn't listen to the commentry. A trail hun t does NOT involve a fox. A scent trail is laid & followed...
@@deltafox9630 clearly you didn't, because it's all a front for the illegal hunting they do... Go tell some gullible idiot your BS..
How are wild foxes that are being hunted in the countryside "in cages"?
There is a very, very big difference between canned hunting and hunting animals humanely in the wild. Canned hunting is absolutely despicable. In fact, it's not even hunting.
Blood sports I'd love to but these hunts people in a situation where they were chased down by dogs wild animals. That's for breaking the law they do it every time . Blocking up fox bolt holes be for the hunt is still practiced today . The damage to private property. The occasional pet dog and cat getting ripped to pieces. . I lived in the new forest for years. And witnessed so much even after the ban . The police were useless even though they knew what was going on . More interested in protecting the hunt than the laws they were breaking. Weren't so arrogant when their horse boxes needed new tyres.
Is there an English translation available for this comment please?
It should be banned.
More wildlife is killed by cars & pet cat's than by hunting so we should ban cars & cats too !!!!
@@CeltictribesYeah, we should.
@@djbogz1921moron.
Not a fan of hunting, don't see the point in our modern, mainly civilised way of living. There are far, far more pressing issues the inept in Westminster need to sort out, than blowing smoke at the electorate with this.
czcams.com/video/_IB3Nr9aduI/video.htmlsi=t7v-PbZaLzf9sA3H
It's a way of life for the rich. Should totally be banned.
Your comment shows how ignorant on this subject you really are.
@@CeltictribesI'm curious as to why this person is ignorant
Lots of foxes killed by cars every day, some die in agony, so let's ban cars immediately, and hedge hog's, and deers, ban all motor vehicles.
Yes have rich people nothing better to do with the their lifesgo help out in an animal shelter or a food bank give back a little
@@teresabyrne855 I agree !
She describes it as a "quaint countryside tradition. " Really .😊
5 seconds in ffs
The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable
I think you quote Oscar Wilde.
Fair enough, but virtually every Labour MP voted for the ban.
The whole of English life and UK is being attacked and changed and now there going home for Christmas .What a joke
No GB news the ban should be tightened. Get a life.
Is fox hunting illegal or not?
That bloke looks evil 😈
They should be prosecuted and given long sentances in prison years ago we used to stop them our way and it was legal then
If prince is so charming why the fuck would this be ok
Being pissed and watching dogs rip a fox apart how sad are these people.
There's cruel people in all classes so making blood sports and fox hating a class issue is a distraction just as calling it a traditional country pursuit disguises the fact it is animal cruelty false stop . Yet this crops up every time and is completely irrelevant . You either support cruelty or you don't . Simple .
"Whilst the optics may not be good, the fox is long dead before it is set upon by the hounds". You should read my long piece above which contextualises everything and shows what a disgrace it was to ban hunting.
Agreed. And yet they present themselves to the world as the bastion of culture and etiquette -pathetic, pretentious savages
I don’t agree with fox hunting, however as it was banned 20 years ago, like many things in this country the law needs to be applied, no point in banning this part of our heritage, just because of a socialist idea of banning “posh” people having fun, to bring them into line, with hoi pollio, only then for hierarchy of said socialist parties to behave and carry out, the same kinds of lifestyle that they prevent anyone else doing!
The fox is a predator that requires control of numbers. Spare us the Disney-fication of animals that
are part of rural history. A terrified animal? - hah! more sanctimonious indulgence in "personnification"
of animals. The fox is a redator that preys without mercy on livestock within its range and ability,
check a raided hencoop for the bloody evidence of its lust insofar that it runs amok without any
restriction on "killing and eating what it needs". Would this view of animal cruelty extend tp rats
and the like? I doubt it very much. More humbug from a limited viewpoint that would even extend
its state of mind to horse racing. Too many townies moving into the countryside talking from an
a rather immature arguably artifical domestic point of view.
czcams.com/video/_IB3Nr9aduI/video.htmlsi=t7v-PbZaLzf9sA3H
BS . l hate the Woke / Left wing as much as l hate these sadistic people who enjoy killing defenceless animals disguised as a traditional country sport .
I’m lost you don’t agree with it, say it’s banned and that needs to be enforced!
And then basically bang on about how it’s an attack on British culture!
Which one is it mate?
Are you pro animal cruelty and want to watch a fox getting ripped apart by a pack of dogs or not?
While we are at it does this apply to badger baiting, cock fighting, dog fighting etc?
@@markgeering5943 iq taken a battering during Xmas? As the saying goes, you can't fix stupid, no reply needed🤣🫡
Another of the urban majority persecuting the rural minority.
It would be ok if all the hunts stuck to the law but they don’t.
This chap is a liar and puts forward a pathetic argument for hunting.
What a redundant question. It was banned years ago.
@@Viper91157 No, it was banned for everyone. And since when did the ‘poor’ take part in the hunt? If these elitist twats are flouting the law, then they need to be caught, prosecuted and imprisoned.
Quaint? I dont think killing a fox/otter/rabbit or Badger is a quaint past time...im all for keeping our traditions but I don't think killing an animal "for fun" is quaint. Its cruel.
Agreed, many on my wife’s hunt had little money, made a big sacrifice to go hunting as this was a way of life for them.
Them and us.May as well do away with laws.
Just stop this cruel madness
Any other culture they would not touch it with a barge pole.
They didn't have a problem with banning smoking though did they ?
Shame on israel
warmest on record' this is the operative phrase, it's been much hotter, it's been much colder.
I personally think they should consider moving their movements to halal meat, now that is cruelty
It should be banned. It’s very cruel!
Badger baiting & bear baiting was once a "way of life" should that be resurrected? Bull fighting in many parts of the world is still carried out so should that also be allowed to spread tp this country?
Hunting should never have been banned. It has an important role to play in the countryside and is an activity participated in by tens of thousands. Numbers of foxes killed are small. Culling by hunting is also much “cleaner” than by farmers shooting them. Whilst the optics may not be good, the fox is long dead before it is set upon by the hounds.
What really matters are the huge issues relating to transport of live animals and industrial-scale farming and fishing. The ban was partisan politics at its worst - the vast majority of the left have never liked it. The ban was a blatantly politicised move when Blair introduced the Hunting Act in 2004 - I recall that at the time he needed to placate the left-wingers in his Party. Hunting was made the sacrificial lamb.
Also, the Lord Burns Inquiry into hunting, instituted by the Labour Government in 1999, did not come to the conclusion that hunting was a cruel activity. The Government still proceeded with the ban as Blair needed to buttress his own position. The whole thing was a disgrace.
Most people who hunt have a deep love for animals and would never do it if it was blatantly cruel. My wife used to hunt regularly yet she had the deepest love for animals - always the first to rescue a wounded bird or deer. In terms of overall animal welfare, hunting is just a sideshow.
The supreme irony is that the vast majority of the antis (including virtually every single Labour MP) want to themselves hunt down and persecute a small rural minority - people who are not their natural supporters and who are detested, That is politics at its very worst, plain barbarism and savagery.
Theres a silent 'c' in hunts
You're not a silent "c%#t" obviously.😅😅😅
It's beyond belief - the staggering problems this country is facing, and Labour are *still* fixated on this same issue they've been fixated on for 50 years.
How about you fix our borders and our birth-rate before yet AGAIN getting into this nonsense?
because their left wing voter base love this kind of stuff... it's quite simple
It is possible to have more than just one policy.
@@steveb951 Yeah, but there is thousands more important things to legislate and sort out than just hunting.
@@steveb951 Legislative time and political capital are finite however.
@@rightray7463twat
The ignorance displayed in many of these comments is amazing. People just believe anything these 'anti' s say.
This is one more step towards banning meat eating all together
Meanwhile, the hunt for foxy ladies continues!
Are you 100 years old?
"Foxy ladies" ????
🤣😅😂
@@hannacook859Are you 10 years old ? 😅
^^^ this is what happens when a school kid watches his first 'Carry on' movie.
@@hannacook859 What's wrong with "foxy ladies"?
To be fair, it is an odd tradition
No odder than Xmas day.
@@Celtictribes Xmas celebrates the return of daylight. The turning of the year. It has roots thousands of years back.
Fox hunting was invented in 1845.
BAN ALL HUNTING OF ANIMALS
So ban the foxes themselves from hunting rabbits?!🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s what they said when they banned Slavery!!
I have no problem with legal drag hunting, I had no problem with what was, legal fox hunting, at the time. I have no problem with people having more than me, or less than me. Some people seem to have a problem with nearly everything! Put your stop animal cruelty efforts into illegal dog uses by identifying and following Badger baiting gangs! If, you have the balls! May cost you a few teeth, and possibly lose your fifteen minutes of fame, but a worthy cause nonetheless.
This 'modern Britain' means changed and stale.
judges won`t convict themselves !
Thousands of chickens are torn apart each year by foxes.
Utter BS! IF chickens are attacked and killed by foxes, it is the fault of the farmer for not securing his stock properly - and that is highly unlikely. The real menace to farmers is domestic dogs, that attack and kill sheep. Just up the road from where I live, on National Trust land, a pregnant Highland cow was driven to her death by dogs chasing her. The incident prompted a law that domestic dogs must be on a lead around livestock. About six weeks ago I was up there - and there, two gates have to be passed through, each with an unmissable sign that dogs must be on a lead IT'S THE LAW, but of course the person there with their dog amongst the cattle, had it off the lead.
@@rightray7463 If all you can do is resort to insult, you show yourself up as a pathetic loser. Maybe you'd like to go and call the members of the NFU, which is currently running a campaign to have the law tightened in relation to dogs on farmland because of the increasing number of dog attacks on their animals, hysterical. Perhaps you should look at some of the photos of the results of dog attacks before posting stupid comments.
@@shirleyswaine4701What utter nonsensical garbage.
Foxes don't know any better and privately educated "humans" ought to.
@@Celtictribes Sorry hides-behind-a-pseudo-name it's reality. I can only suppose you are one of those that lets their dogs run free amongst livestock. Go ask the NFU ir it's 'nonsensical garbage'.
We can't go out with one dog and get a rabbit but the toffs can go out with loads of dog's and not one arrest double standard's are unreal
To all the ignorant idiots claiming that 'thousands' of chickens etc are 'torn apart' by foxes each year, get your facts right. It is DOGS, not foxes, that attack, injure and kill livestock NOT foxes. It is such a problem that the NFU currently has a campaign running for the law to be tightened around dogs on farmland. Close to where I live, on National Trust land, a pregnant Highland cow was driven to here death by a pair of dogs off the lead. Reports of livestock being worried or killed by dogs are all too frequent here in the south-west, but still I see dogs off the lead amongst livestock.
As Jim Royle would have said "Trail hunt my *rs*" - you don't need a pack of 20-30 foxhounds to trail hunt, just a couple of bloodhounds.
Don't talk crap ! I live in sheep farming area & fox's are a huge problem especially with lambing season not far off & where i live i see countless fox's, badgers & wildlife of every kind killed by road traffic are you proposing a ban on road traffic as well ? No ! I thought not.
What utter bollocks. We used to farm 4000 free range hens. It is foxes that attack and kill poultry, usually for the sake of it. On one occasion we lost 200 in one afternoon, the hens had there heads and feet biting off by a fox NOT a dog.
@@johncurrie6693 Then you were a sloppy farmed that didn't secure your livestock properly.
@@Celtictribes So, you aren't actually a sheep farmer, just a supporter of blood sports. I suggest you refer to the NFU website, where they are currently running a campaign to tighten the laws around dogs on farmland because of the huge losses each year caused by dogs attacking, maiming and killing their livestock. Oddly, farmers have never petitioned for a repeal of the fox-hunting ban.
Shirley you clearly don't live in the country. You don't know what you are talking about. IF Dogs are a problem, and that is a big if .... it is 99% to 1% in favour of the Fox being the problem.
We have hunts in Canada but we dont chase actual foxes. But its a great day out. Just dont let the dogs chase animals
Good point
Not hunting though....
Where do they get these announcers?
I love england and my people but i dont follow sheep and object to whats wrong, trying to justify fox hunting just because its british is pathetic, some traditionions are important but making out we need foxhunting and are at risk of losing something is absolutely pathetic, my relatives were farmers and they used to do it, i hate them aswell, if we like things that symbolise our country and our nature, lets stop shooting at it aye, you gormless self obsessed victims of childhood bullying
Is there a Brexit opportunity somewhere here?
I don’t trust anything the league say when it comes to stats
Great point.
You don't trust anyone who disagrees with you
@@milsub59 I certainly DO NOT like or agree with the Labour Party, but I do trust their Burns Inquiry. You know, the one that found that hunting wasn't cruel. But they still banned it despite THEIR OWN inquiry's findings.... Mad.
I didn’t hear anything about the Police they don’t seem to have a good grasp of the situation in dealing with the problems it causes. The films on CZcams on this issue are truly disgusting they show how aggressive, arrogant and stupid people behave over this issue.
Boo hoo
'News'
Hypocrisy reigns in Batshit Bonkers Britain - nowt said about Bull fighting in Spain and the herding and hacking to death of whole Whale & Dolphin pods in bays in the Faroe islands.
If Tim thinks it’s just trail hunting he is very naive.To say it’s not about the fox is a stupid argument ,if that was the case we won’t be having this conversation.Fox hunting must be banned.
Keep up your traditions! 🇦🇺🦘👏👑
It isn’t a tradition.
'Cos you don't have any.
The reason the hunts are low attendance is nobody wants to pay the hunt fee to chase thin air . The feild would be 3 times bigger pre ban so its killing off the function of the hunt because they cant employ people to carry out repairs to hunt County so it did effect rural communities the roads and foot paths
@@Jame629 Sicko. Take a one way flight to Switzerland.
This is at best a late 19th century invented tradition.
OK bottom line ..... assess a conversation with more than 'opinion'. How many cognitive biases? You CAN NOT base an argument on 'tradition' or how many people follow it. It has to be logically and some what scientifically approached. The point that many folks like it is invalid as it DOES NOT equate to being right just by numbers of followers. AND tradition means nothing unless you can give reasoning and clear meaning to the activity and see the measured pros and cons. You cant support an argument if you deliberately cause suffering, obviously. So tradition doesn't equate to being right automatically either. Making someone unhappy because they cant inflict suffering is not a proper argument. It has been shown that hunts do kill foxes and many of these instances are not prosecuted. It is very much like a loop hole because you just say 'whoops it was an accident'. The hunt set up is to find a fox and kill it, its like saying you will drive a car and not turn left or right, its pretty much unavoidable, just as its almost impossible to stop a pack of hounds from actually chasing a real fox once they start. The situation means its OUT OF CONTROL and ultimately leads to killing the foxes illegally. SO YES ITS A 'LOOP HOLE'. Countryside spokesperson was using avoidance and unconscious appeal, not a reasoned point. Might be worth him reading more on philosophy and psychology to understand a more solid foundation?
What about the chickens and other farm small farm animals that foxes kill ?? Or don't they count !!
If you keep animals it's your job to keep them safe
@rayclarke9959 what an idiotic comment. How can you safe guard livestock on a farm 24/7.
@johncurrie6693 in England it's actually pretty easy unless your a cheap bastard
@@rayclarke9959 Partly by controlling vermin. Which includes foxes.
Every boxing day this same debate is dug out yet again. Yawn.
If its done on private land i say mind your own business
so murder and slavery should be allowed if it is on private property? 😂
@@BoomerForeverBoth those things are banned but it happens every day ! Just get a bloody life.😅
@@BoomerForever You too can keep sex slaves in your cellar if you embrace Freedom and Democracy! 😀
But it's not done on private land .
@@Celtictribes No people get arrested for those things daily 😂 And slavery has decreased dramatically. you're not very clever are you
Leave the people who live and care for the country side alone as for myself off hunting to day!! the prey is hunt saboteurs 😂😂😂😂😂
100%👍👍👍
Hence why you do it mob handed and masked up like a coward 😂😂😂
Ahh, did someone go crying to CZcams about my comment........and I thought that police horses were the only animal to have a prick half way up its back.
Live and care for the countryside..what a joke.
Absolutely there should NOT be any ban.
Co🎉ck fighting was banned tradition because it was working class and poor people who partook in it Bloodsports are OK for upper class hooligans it seems!
The hunt follows a trace these days not hunts a fox, stay in your cities leave our countryside alone!!!
You dont speak for all country folk. You should move to the city if you're scared of a little fox.
Thank you for your great work in trying to get this banned. Fox hunting is a barbaric cruel thing to do and causes terrible pain and stress to the fox. Please keep reporting on this.
Foxes need to be controlled. Hunting controls them selectively, usually only taking the weaker and older foxes, leaving the younger individuals to then go on to breed. It culls enough to keep the population from increasing exponentially, but not so many it threatens the species with local extinction. No other method does this. Look up the mesopredator release hypothesis.
More political time and capital wasted whilst the once great SS UK sinks below the waves as a result of politicians failing to deal with the real issues.
Why do people feel the need to constantly push their own beliefs onto others. At the same time i bet if there was an attack on something they do they would be crying and saying its unfair. Isnt it about time we all minded our own business before we make this country total intolerant of everything and no one can do anything other then the prescribed and approved activities that are allowed by government. These s activities provide a lot of much needed jobs to people in the countryside just remember that when your feelings are hurt that you are trying to put people out of work because of your ideals.
Utter BS! And yes, I DO live in the countryside and most people in the the countryside are NOT involved in this blood lust sport and many farmers find the hunt a nuisance, but dare not say so if they are tenant farmers.
😂😂😂 I don't agree with the fox hunting ban but what jobs does it provide to the countryside!?!
@BoomerForever hound master, stables, farriers, all the other jobs that surround every aspect of people lives you have a narrow view. These things don't just "happen". Look at any sport or activity there is a huge infrastructure based on things we do. Walking people who make boots/shoes all the clothing everything. No mater what we do there are jobs involved that people get paid for, in the case of fox hunting which isn't fox hunting anymore cause it was banned it provides jobs for the local economy in those areas. People go to prison for actual fox hunting, so this really is just on an attack on what people see as privilege.
This is not about putting their beliefs on anyone it's about protecting vulnerable animals that CANT speak lots of things are still happening that would be much better changed
@teresabyrne855 they are hardly vulnerable the damage death and destruction they cause to flocks is unbelievable. And I'll say it again fox hunting was banned, they chase a scented wrag now. Anyone who kills a fox goes to prison, so no this isn't about the foxes it's an attack on people they see as privileged.
Love and joy in a Fox’s life. This women probably thinks they speak English as well !
In terms of wildlife management, hunting with hounds is a selective way of managing the fox population, in the same way wolf packs target weak, sick injured and old animals, hound packs operate the same way. The weak sick old and injured are generally the animals which cause issues with livestock, because it presents an easier opportunity. Now riflemen at 200 yards away are unable to tell if they are either healthy or weak foxes, so the the fox population is not being managed properly and more are being killed as a result.
Healthy foxes find it very easy to evade hounds, hounds aren't particularly bright, hound packs killed weak specimens and kept the population in a better state. Unfortunately this has never been about wildlife management its about perceived rich vs poor, left vs right, and a totem for perceived class hatred
Mate that’s the dumbest nonsense I ever heard 😂 !
That’s not true, they target everything, including livestock and pets you need to do some research
B*llocks!
@@matthewhale2464 absolutely agree.
The hunters, I've read, used to be extremely cruel to hounds as well.
Put the zoom meeting up
it would upset more people if it was'nt banned