I fell in love with St. Emilion because of how beautiful Merlot-based blends can be. I am ashamed that I have not tried any Pomerol wines, but that will change soon!
St. Emilion is one of the most beautiful communes in Bordeaux and their wines are stunning, however Pomerol are also producing some incredible options. If you're ever curious to taste new wines, get in touch with us at elicite.com via our live chat or over email and our team of in-house sommeliers will be happy to discuss with you!
You simply cannot say one is better than the other and the joy is in the comparison rather than choosing a winner... One occasion, Saint-Emilion or Pomerol may shine brighter, but take the same two wines, from the same vintage, as little as a year later and the outcome can be entirely different... Vive la difference and compare these magnificent wines many times, not just once...
In some Restaurant in Paris when you ask for a glas of water to go along with your lunch the server say "allright a Chateau La Pompe" meaning you water will come from the Seine river.
Great information. I had no idea that left bank had so many classifications and that Saint Émilion was divided that way. All great regions for beautiful wine. Love that I expanded my knowledge a little bit more. Merci!
Lovely video! I like both regions, although Pomerol is not widely available and even more expensive than St. Emilion. For me, a good Pomerol is like drinking a creamy and rich cherry pie. Silky, elegant, yet full of length and in great balance.
Elicité we moved here 11 February and then the lockdown. We have not been out tasting much yet but plan on doing so. We are keeping safe and some places are not offering tastings. Since we plan on living here for years, we have lots of time to discover!
@@amyspeers8012 Wow Amy, a difficult time to move but we're very happy to hear that you're looking forward to a long future there and we're sure you'll taste some amazing wines during your time there! We'd love to hear what you think of the region when you get the chance to explore more.
It sure is stunning! It's filmed in an 18th century building which today is Chateau Martinet. It used to be an old hunting lodge and now sits just off the main road from Libourne, nestled amongst some beautiful vineyards. You can find an image of the Chateau on the wine's label here: www.elicite.com/product/2016-chateau-martinet
My proposal: as a rather international, newer wine drinker you'll prefer a full-bodied, rich and heavy St-Emillion. As an experienced quality-searcher you'll love the elegance and the fine nuances of a Pomerol.
Adrian : At some point for me it is not about the taste...which most wine lovers would never say. They would be kicked out of their wine tasting group ! Burgundy of even modest price gives an energy that makes me feel 20 years younger and 30 pounds lighter..Wow ... That is magic. No other wine i have ever had ( I am 69) has done that...and i have had plenty of attempts. I am sure you know what you are talking about - i do not know the subleties of these wines like you do. I am looking fir that elusive cosmic energy that only Burgundy provides. Bon apatite.
@@michaelcelani8325 😂 I like your comment! My brother would agree, he says, Burgundy gives you the nicest booze of all wines. I see more the fact, that I several times have spent more than a 100 Bucks for a bottle of burgundy, ending up with a was-that-it? on my lips... For that money I often find a Wow! in my glass in Bordeaux. However it's a matter of personal preferences of course. And it's worth to keep trying and searching and drinking. 😀
The best way to "navigate" through the classification system is to look at the price tag of the bottle ! ! Lol ! Has always worked reliably well in Bordeaux - unlike for the wine of Bourgogne, Piemonte, Toscana and Montalcino: where it seems the more you pay the more disappointed you become !
Typical english speaker (american perhaps. ?) answer. Works if you know nothing about wines yes. So please continue buying out of price shit and judging quality with price
The people that complains about the very exclusive wine's price, let it be. They aren't commodities. They are luxury items, with the price driven by exclusivity rather than "normal" economic rules. The winemakers don't even receive most of the money. It is expensive, but it gets nasty at the secondary market and the auctions, where the price sky rocket.
Hi Pondus, it depends - what kind of garnish would you pair with the chicken, or what kind of cheese? If you are looking for a chicken dish, a roast chicken with mushroom would be perfect!
Grant Ritchie i guess people want to put the word Chateau everywhere... you go to Petrus and you’ll understand why its not called Chateau Petrus on the label, there’s no Chateau, just vines and a recently built Chai. You can’t name your wine “chateau smtg” in Bordeaux if there’s no actual Chateau
You are absolutely correct. It should NOW simply be named as Petrus, not Château Petrus nor Château Pétrus or Pétrus. Let’s go back a little in the history of this great wine ... In 1949, the owner of the Hotel Loubat in Libourne, Mrs. Edmond Loubat sold 50% of it to Jean-Pierre Moueix, who had started to market it before the start of the war, but did not have exclusive rights until 1945. It is also with him that Petrus, especially after the war, began to gain the fame that we know him today. And it was also under his leadership that Château Pétrus became Petrus (without a château and without an acute accent on the “e”). The Établissement Jean -Pierre Moueix have since bought back the shares held by the heirs of Mrs. Loubat, who died in 1961, namely those of Mr. Lignac in 1964, and those of Mrs. Lacoste-Loubat in 1969. So it is not surprised to find on the old Petrus labels (I would guess before vintage 1950???), it is the name of Château Pétrus which appears. Maybe one of the reasons for his change is, there is no actual chateau in Petrus, but simply a cellar, or at most a country house, as Christian Moueix, the president of Etablissements Jean-Pierre Moueix, has already modestly pointed out (Petrus now belongs to his brother Jean-François). They will add that Petrus does not take an acute accent on the "e" either. While it is true that Petrus is written without accent, there is, on the other hand, an acute “e” accent on the Pétrus from Château Lafleur-Pétrus. Hope this clarifies the name(s) of this great wine.
I must be honest, I was slightly disappointed with French wines. The imported ones I tried in South Africa was nothing special. But I contributed it to its low price tag which could only mean we just got the cheap stuff. Going to Saint-Emilion, I expected youth serum in a bottle. But it didn’t quite live up to my expectations. That being said, I’m not knocking French wines in any way. Im sure the super expensive stuff is pure heaven in a bottle. I might have just had unrealistic expectations and are too use to South African style wines. The added benefit of our wines are that you can get a really good bottle of wine at a really good price. For context, you can pay below 3EUR for a cheap wine. One of my current favorites is a wine from wine estate called Rustenberg, which costs below 10EUR (and that is considered expensive here).
@@bartobruintjes7056 Chile are indeed producing some world class wines. Errazuriz is also one of our favourite producers as they're really pioneering Chilean fine wine. We'd love to hear what you think of our range from Chile and if there's any gems missing! www.elicite.com/shop/chile
@@vanman7805 At the end of the day, there is always going to be a lot of individual preference when it comes to wine and as we like to say 'The best wine if the one you enjoy the most'. Because of huge global demand for French wine, especially those from Bordeaux and Burgundy, it can often be more challenging to find great value, especially compared to more up and coming regions, especially those from the New World. South Africa is producing some incredible wines at very affordable prices, especially if you're living there! Producers like Rustenberg, Rust en Vrede, Hamilton Russell, and AA Badenhorst (just to name a few) are putting out some excellent selections. To try compare different wines from different regions and put price out of the question, we suggest hosting a blind tasting of similar wines from different regions at different price points and then seeing if your preferences change. If you ever have questions about wine, don't hesitate to contact our team via email or on our website's live chat as they're always happy to discuss any wine-related matters!
Chateau Petrus became famous only because Madame Kennedy loved it. So the price could explode with good publicity. More money best vine in spite of its small surface area. For the 1855 classifications, the quality of the wine is not really relevant. Surface area, quantity sold, beauty of the house, beauty of the vines, reputation. No change until 1973 when Rothschild paid for its place. Wine is business... In a salon of vin, near Evian, "Salon des vingerons indépendants", you can find beautiful bottles for only 7 Euro. A sauterne, one of the best wine of the world, 9 Euro... So don't paie to much for a wine.
My response... French Wines prices are a joke, not worth the high prices. You can’t tell me a $1000 bottle of wine is 10 times better that the $100 wine. It’s absolute bull shit. The world is beginning to reject the French wine prices. And since COVID, they shouldn’t and won’t get the ridiculous prices still be sought .. except for privileged people. The history etc and landscapes and buildings are attractive, but the wines are not worth it.
Who is claiming that a $1000 bottle of wine is 10 times better than a $100 bottle of wine? The value of a bottle is equal to what the customer is willing to pay. French wine prices (as with prices for wine in general) are largely driven by customer demand. Prices of Bordeaux wines for example aren't high because some Scrooge McDuck French winemaker has decided to extort the masses. It's because there has been a significant increase in demand from around the world, particularly from Asia and the US, for a good with a limited and volatile quantity. It's not always the RuLiNg eLiTe or 'privileged people' that are pulling the strings, sometimes it's just simple economics.
@@matthubner5300 the expensive wines of 1000 + are simply not worth it.. in terms of the existential experience.. I'll stick to that... i could not care whether they're paying it or not French wines over $ 200 are not worth it . So don't lecture me
@@matthubner5300 I haven't tasted any but I have tried higher priced premier crus from burgundy $300 ( many premier crus sell for more) aussie dollars and then tried a borgogne rouge for $35 dollars... trying to remember Domaine de La Vougerie ( this was probably 10-15 yrs ago) ??made by an up and comer . The $300 ,dollar wine didnt do it for me. I have tried Penfold Grange... nope... I think some Aussie wines are great value for money like farr rising wines .. Saignee and Pinots.. I like even a 100% Petit verdot if it is good because I love the colour and they are promising .. Kingston Estate has one .. i like more elegant wines . hate Shiraz.. the phenolics interfere with sleep. I like great grenaches from Australia.. yet to try Bass Philip pinot due to price.. but would like to try a grand cru and compare it in good years . But I will drop my guard. You tell me some French wines that I can get here in australia that you recommend from Bordeaux, a Pomerol or St Emilion, or a Burgundy say that wont break the bank .. I am still to find a brilliant fresh juicy French Beaujolais .. when i look in say Dan Murphy or on line they are often 2017 or earlier vintages.. i steer clear .. maybe they are overrated ..Now I am trying some more way out wines from Whitfield in NE Victoria .. I live in xxxxxxxxxx Vic... Dalzotto are funky wines, different and funnily enough the only wine label that attracts probably because of funkiness is not garrish its elegant or pretty .. i never buy garishly labelled wines.. its only Dalzotto labels.. They are local wines 60klms from me in the country . I havent even read the reviews yet.. just trying a few.. i used to buy french pinots from.a specialist importer who used to be at Essendon Airport here near Melbourne.. he is probably gone now ( dead).
@@matthubner5300 One has to acknowledge that at a certain price tag, the bottles are not anymore simple "consumption goods" but also become a subject of speculation and investment. How much does it account for in the total price, I honestly don't know, but it's a non-negligible part, while for a 30$ bottle it's literally 0%. That being said, I do agree, they are not expensive because the winemakers and sellers want to sell them that much but because they simply CAN sell them that much... And there starts the discussion about why are so many people ready to pay so much for certain bottles, even though, as you implicitely recognise yourself, a factor of 10 in the price does not imply a factor of 10 in the mouth or on the nose. When people buy a bottle of fine wine or cognac, they don't just pay a beverage but a piece of luxury. That's how you can sell relatively young cognac blends full of artificial colorings and sweeteners to people who have no idea of the relative quality of what they buy, by selling them the "dream" they can finally afford, for themselves, or even better, to offer as a gift... I think it's not that awful for wines as it is for cognac, yet I can understand that it is bothering for some people that they are no more able to afford a product they loved, just because some people thousands of miles away love to buy it for what it represents (instead of what it is) but would not see the difference in a blind tasting with a wine that is ten times cheaper... Who wouldn't understand that ??
Think about about native english speakers when the french winemakers are interviewed and how their ears must bleed... I'm french and it shocked even me -_-'
"We don't need a classification ! lol ! We are Pomerol, we have Petrus ! " Boom ! Drop the mike...
I fell in love with St. Emilion because of how beautiful Merlot-based blends can be. I am ashamed that I have not tried any Pomerol wines, but that will change soon!
St. Emilion is one of the most beautiful communes in Bordeaux and their wines are stunning, however Pomerol are also producing some incredible options. If you're ever curious to taste new wines, get in touch with us at elicite.com via our live chat or over email and our team of in-house sommeliers will be happy to discuss with you!
No No No ...We need Burgundy!!*
Very precise and clear information. Easy to revisit this information later if refresher is needed.
Hello, I live in the Saint-Emilion région, I confirm I love both 👍
Oh,really!? You are so blessed !!! Im from Brazil, Franch wine lover !
@@alecampos2621 Thank you, i'm myself winegrower, so the harvest will soon be 👍
Living there has to be one of the best places to enjoy life. Drink well my friend!
Pomerol with my wife, st.emilion with my friends and a ricard alone to relax.
Sounds like the dream!
Good evening, for pleasure a sweet wine (Monbazillac, Loupiac, Sauternes) 🥰🥰🥰. It must be said that I live in the center of these great wines 🤫
@@yoshi4777 We are not jealous at all.... how wonderful!
Great video. Very informative.
🍾 🍷 Great information as we will be taking notes for our Sept trip to St Emilion 🍾 🍷
You simply cannot say one is better than the other and the joy is in the comparison rather than choosing a winner... One occasion, Saint-Emilion or Pomerol may shine brighter, but take the same two wines, from the same vintage, as little as a year later and the outcome can be entirely different... Vive la difference and compare these magnificent wines many times, not just once...
That is the perfect statement. "The joy is in the comparison"!
Very pleased with 2015 SAINT-EMILION Chateau LA PAPETERIE.
Saint Emilion & Pomerol are Producing best wines in the Bordeaux 🍷🍷
Veru nice..so much info.
In some Restaurant in Paris when you ask for a glas of water to go along with your lunch the server say "allright a Chateau La Pompe" meaning you water will come from the Seine river.
Great information. I had no idea that left bank had so many classifications and that Saint Émilion was divided that way. All great regions for beautiful wine. Love that I expanded my knowledge a little bit more. Merci!
Yeah one single video and decades of embarassement vanish ! (when ordering wine in a Restaurant) I like it. !
the classifications from the video are for the right bank, left bank is totally different
So great
Both are good appellations in right bank. I would choose Pomerol anytime
It's certainly a tough choice!
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Amazing Video!!!!
Thanks so much!
Lovely video! I like both regions, although Pomerol is not widely available and even more expensive than St. Emilion. For me, a good Pomerol is like drinking a creamy and rich cherry pie. Silky, elegant, yet full of length and in great balance.
Left bank wines are fantastic too......just different
My favorite St. Emilion wine is Chateau La Dominique, cause, well, I can afford it.
Nice! Our Marketing Director, Matt is actually at Chateau La Dominique as we speak!
Silly wines ...We want Burgundy. **
I’ve got a bottle of 2009 I’ve got to try the terroir has excellent location
Chateau La Conseillante for my fav Pomerol. Chateau Pavie my fav St. Emilion
Those are great choices!
love all the videos you made, how can i find the background musics like this
Love this wine
Which is your favourite? Saint Emilion or Pomerol.... or both?!
I haven't been lucky enough to have a pomerol yet hopefully in the new year 👋
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I love both 😍🇫🇷
Hi Anne. I saw your channel. Nice to see you here too.
Good evening, then seen from my home in the entre deux mers south of Bordeaux 🥰 the two appellations are magnificent. So ball in the center 👍
Incredible!
nice
petrus is none a chateau for the appellation @6:55 it is only petrus and their 11.4 hectares
Привет от канала Коньяк и Виски , с меня подписка, Здоровья и всех Благ.
I love that I live in this region!
That's fantastic!
ELICITE My husband and I are expats and live in Gensac, a small village about 25-30 min from Saint-Emilion.
@@amyspeers8012 That sounds wonderful. Who are your favourite producers in the region?
Elicité we moved here 11 February and then the lockdown. We have not been out tasting much yet but plan on doing so. We are keeping safe and some places are not offering tastings. Since we plan on living here for years, we have lots of time to discover!
@@amyspeers8012 Wow Amy, a difficult time to move but we're very happy to hear that you're looking forward to a long future there and we're sure you'll taste some amazing wines during your time there! We'd love to hear what you think of the region when you get the chance to explore more.
Where was this filmed? That room is beautiful.
It sure is stunning! It's filmed in an 18th century building which today is Chateau Martinet. It used to be an old hunting lodge and now sits just off the main road from Libourne, nestled amongst some beautiful vineyards. You can find an image of the Chateau on the wine's label here:
www.elicite.com/product/2016-chateau-martinet
Petrus has no Chateau.
Château Petrus does not exist !
It's "Petrus"
I need to zip some Right Bank noww
Petrus isn’t a Chateau.
So is this pomerol available in total wine?
yes :)
My proposal: as a rather international, newer wine drinker you'll prefer a full-bodied, rich and heavy St-Emillion. As an experienced quality-searcher you'll love the elegance and the fine nuances of a Pomerol.
An excellent remark. We might have to agree with you there Adrian.
Burgundy is much Better !!*
@@michaelcelani8325 Much more expensive for a comparable quality probably too... 🥴
Adrian : At some point for me it is not about the taste...which most wine lovers would never say. They would be kicked out of their wine tasting group ! Burgundy of even modest price gives an energy that makes me feel 20 years younger and 30 pounds lighter..Wow ... That is magic. No other wine i have ever had ( I am 69) has done that...and i have had plenty of attempts. I am sure you know what you are talking about - i do not know the subleties of these wines like you do. I am looking fir that elusive cosmic energy that only Burgundy provides. Bon apatite.
@@michaelcelani8325 😂 I like your comment! My brother would agree, he says, Burgundy gives you the nicest booze of all wines.
I see more the fact, that I several times have spent more than a 100 Bucks for a bottle of burgundy, ending up with a was-that-it? on my lips... For that money I often find a Wow! in my glass in Bordeaux.
However it's a matter of personal preferences of course. And it's worth to keep trying and searching and drinking. 😀
Pomerol as an apero? Quelle question!
You are right. Ridiculous, incomprehensible.
Changes the channel after, “should I drink it as aperitif…?”… ;)
The best way to "navigate" through the classification system is to look at the price tag of the bottle ! ! Lol !
Has always worked reliably well in Bordeaux - unlike for the wine of Bourgogne, Piemonte, Toscana and Montalcino: where it seems the more you pay the more disappointed you become !
Typical english speaker (american perhaps. ?) answer. Works if you know nothing about wines yes. So please continue buying out of price shit and judging quality with price
I don’t think stEmilion is more powerful in character than pomerol , personally.
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Château Pétrus is my all time favourite..
Can't beat it ;)
It's just Petrus, not château Petrus...
@@heiariib In1917, La Société Civile du Château Pétrus, a share-holding company was set up
@@heiariib en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_P%C3%A9trus
@@bondiamigo realy ?!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
This man is hilariously French
if anything, i'm more confused now...
The people that complains about the very exclusive wine's price, let it be. They aren't commodities. They are luxury items, with the price driven by exclusivity rather than "normal" economic rules.
The winemakers don't even receive most of the money. It is expensive, but it gets nasty at the secondary market and the auctions, where the price sky rocket.
San Emilion best Wine bordeaux
One of our favourites!
If you get the opportunity, one should admire the large cache of empty Petrus bottles in the cellar of the George V. All one customer.
That's one lucky customer....
Un saint-émilion sur un poulet ou du fromage ??
Hi Pondus, it depends - what kind of garnish would you pair with the chicken, or what kind of cheese? If you are looking for a chicken dish, a roast chicken with mushroom would be perfect!
@@ELICITE Vous avez sans doute raison...
Muncul di beranda ya??
Hope so!
Ze ladee is a, how you say, a foole
Petrus the best
Chile tiene 21 mil terroirs…imaginen la variedad de vinos mejores que los petrvs…partiendo por don melchor de concha y toro…
The dudes title is Drinks Specialist. That's like saying he's a barista at Starbucks, speak to wine makers, not talking head with glorified titles
Interesting debat but in France we have so many "terroirs". The best way to test the wine is to bought one wine of every area.
It’s just Petrus, not Chateau Petrus, how many times do we have to say it
In 1917, La Société Civile du Château Pétrus, a share-holding company was set up....
Grant Ritchie i guess people want to put the word Chateau everywhere... you go to Petrus and you’ll understand why its not called Chateau Petrus on the label, there’s no Chateau, just vines and a recently built Chai. You can’t name your wine “chateau smtg” in Bordeaux if there’s no actual Chateau
You are absolutely correct. It should NOW simply be named as Petrus, not Château Petrus nor Château Pétrus or Pétrus.
Let’s go back a little in the history of this great wine ... In 1949, the owner of the Hotel Loubat in Libourne, Mrs. Edmond Loubat sold 50% of it to Jean-Pierre Moueix, who had started to market it before the start of the war, but did not have exclusive rights until 1945. It is also with him that Petrus, especially after the war, began to gain the fame that we know him today. And it was also under his leadership that Château Pétrus became Petrus (without a château and without an acute accent on the “e”). The Établissement Jean -Pierre Moueix have since bought back the shares held by the heirs of Mrs. Loubat, who died in 1961, namely those of Mr. Lignac in 1964, and those of Mrs. Lacoste-Loubat in 1969.
So it is not surprised to find on the old Petrus labels (I would guess before vintage 1950???), it is the name of Château Pétrus which appears.
Maybe one of the reasons for his change is, there is no actual chateau in Petrus, but simply a cellar, or at most a country house, as Christian Moueix, the president of Etablissements Jean-Pierre Moueix, has already modestly pointed out (Petrus now belongs to his brother Jean-François). They will add that Petrus does not take an acute accent on the "e" either. While it is true that Petrus is written without accent, there is, on the other hand, an acute “e” accent on the Pétrus from Château Lafleur-Pétrus. Hope this clarifies the name(s) of this great wine.
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Nowadays the best wines were made outside France.
Where's your favourite wine from?
@@ELICITE Chili. And I like the Errázuriz Estate Reserva Series Carmenère most and you can buy them for affordable prices.
I must be honest, I was slightly disappointed with French wines. The imported ones I tried in South Africa was nothing special. But I contributed it to its low price tag which could only mean we just got the cheap stuff. Going to Saint-Emilion, I expected youth serum in a bottle. But it didn’t quite live up to my expectations. That being said, I’m not knocking French wines in any way. Im sure the super expensive stuff is pure heaven in a bottle. I might have just had unrealistic expectations and are too use to South African style wines. The added benefit of our wines are that you can get a really good bottle of wine at a really good price. For context, you can pay below 3EUR for a cheap wine. One of my current favorites is a wine from wine estate called Rustenberg, which costs below 10EUR (and that is considered expensive here).
@@bartobruintjes7056 Chile are indeed producing some world class wines. Errazuriz is also one of our favourite producers as they're really pioneering Chilean fine wine. We'd love to hear what you think of our range from Chile and if there's any gems missing! www.elicite.com/shop/chile
@@vanman7805 At the end of the day, there is always going to be a lot of individual preference when it comes to wine and as we like to say 'The best wine if the one you enjoy the most'. Because of huge global demand for French wine, especially those from Bordeaux and Burgundy, it can often be more challenging to find great value, especially compared to more up and coming regions, especially those from the New World.
South Africa is producing some incredible wines at very affordable prices, especially if you're living there! Producers like Rustenberg, Rust en Vrede, Hamilton Russell, and AA Badenhorst (just to name a few) are putting out some excellent selections. To try compare different wines from different regions and put price out of the question, we suggest hosting a blind tasting of similar wines from different regions at different price points and then seeing if your preferences change.
If you ever have questions about wine, don't hesitate to contact our team via email or on our website's live chat as they're always happy to discuss any wine-related matters!
Chateau Petrus became famous only because Madame Kennedy loved it. So the price could explode with good publicity. More money best vine in spite of its small surface area.
For the 1855 classifications, the quality of the wine is not really relevant. Surface area, quantity sold, beauty of the house, beauty of the vines, reputation. No change until 1973 when Rothschild paid for its place.
Wine is business... In a salon of vin, near Evian, "Salon des vingerons indépendants", you can find beautiful bottles for only 7 Euro. A sauterne, one of the best wine of the world, 9 Euro... So don't paie to much for a wine.
Have you done a tasting of Chateau Petrus before?
Funny to hear them bs their way thru something they can't classify. How the hell it tastes is the bottom line.
Things I learned : nothing.
My response... French Wines prices are a joke, not worth the high prices. You can’t tell me a $1000 bottle of wine is 10 times better that the $100 wine. It’s absolute bull shit. The world is beginning to reject the French wine prices. And since COVID, they shouldn’t and won’t get the ridiculous prices still be sought .. except for privileged people. The history etc and landscapes and buildings are attractive, but the wines are not worth it.
Who is claiming that a $1000 bottle of wine is 10 times better than a $100 bottle of wine? The value of a bottle is equal to what the customer is willing to pay.
French wine prices (as with prices for wine in general) are largely driven by customer demand. Prices of Bordeaux wines for example aren't high because some Scrooge McDuck French winemaker has decided to extort the masses. It's because there has been a significant increase in demand from around the world, particularly from Asia and the US, for a good with a limited and volatile quantity.
It's not always the RuLiNg eLiTe or 'privileged people' that are pulling the strings, sometimes it's just simple economics.
@@matthubner5300 the expensive wines of 1000 + are simply not worth it.. in terms of the existential experience.. I'll stick to that... i could not care whether they're paying it or not
French wines over $ 200 are not worth it . So don't lecture me
@@pragmatist165 Out of curiosity, how many bottles of wine over $1000 have you tasted?
@@matthubner5300 I haven't tasted any but I have tried higher priced premier crus from burgundy $300 ( many premier crus sell for more) aussie dollars and then tried a borgogne rouge for $35 dollars... trying to remember Domaine de La Vougerie ( this was probably 10-15 yrs ago) ??made by an up and comer . The $300 ,dollar wine didnt do it for me. I have tried Penfold Grange... nope... I think some Aussie wines are great value for money like farr rising wines .. Saignee and Pinots.. I like even a 100% Petit verdot if it is good because I love the colour and they are promising .. Kingston Estate has one .. i like more elegant wines . hate Shiraz.. the phenolics interfere with sleep. I like great grenaches from Australia.. yet to try Bass Philip pinot due to price.. but would like to try a grand cru and compare it in good years
. But I will drop my guard. You tell me some French wines that I can get here in australia that you recommend from Bordeaux, a Pomerol or St Emilion, or a Burgundy say that wont break the bank .. I am still to find a brilliant fresh juicy French Beaujolais .. when i look in say Dan Murphy or on line they are often 2017 or earlier vintages.. i steer clear .. maybe they are overrated ..Now I am trying some more way out wines from Whitfield in NE Victoria .. I live in xxxxxxxxxx Vic... Dalzotto are funky wines, different and funnily enough the only wine label that attracts probably because of funkiness is not garrish its elegant or pretty .. i never buy garishly labelled wines.. its only Dalzotto labels.. They are local wines 60klms from me in the country . I havent even read the reviews yet.. just trying a few.. i used to buy french pinots from.a specialist importer who used to be at Essendon Airport here near Melbourne.. he is probably gone now ( dead).
@@matthubner5300 One has to acknowledge that at a certain price tag, the bottles are not anymore simple "consumption goods" but also become a subject of speculation and investment. How much does it account for in the total price, I honestly don't know, but it's a non-negligible part, while for a 30$ bottle it's literally 0%.
That being said, I do agree, they are not expensive because the winemakers and sellers want to sell them that much but because they simply CAN sell them that much...
And there starts the discussion about why are so many people ready to pay so much for certain bottles, even though, as you implicitely recognise yourself, a factor of 10 in the price does not imply a factor of 10 in the mouth or on the nose. When people buy a bottle of fine wine or cognac, they don't just pay a beverage but a piece of luxury. That's how you can sell relatively young cognac blends full of artificial colorings and sweeteners to people who have no idea of the relative quality of what they buy, by selling them the "dream" they can finally afford, for themselves, or even better, to offer as a gift... I think it's not that awful for wines as it is for cognac, yet I can understand that it is bothering for some people that they are no more able to afford a product they loved, just because some people thousands of miles away love to buy it for what it represents (instead of what it is) but would not see the difference in a blind tasting with a wine that is ten times cheaper... Who wouldn't understand that ??
Terrible, crual and unusual torture to hear french pronounced like this ( American I suppose)
Who are you referring to?
It's spelt 'cruel' by the way.
Yes my Danish spell hacker ( in danish it is a checker, I an talking about the background commentator the others mainly has a Franch accent.
Think about about native english speakers when the french winemakers are interviewed and how their ears must bleed... I'm french and it shocked even me -_-'