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- Told through the eyes of a daring modern day adventurer, this is the story of a unique chapter in the history of one of the world's greatest super-powers. This program chronicles the history of the great Ming Dynasty ‘treasure’ ships. Built in the early 15th century these ships gave China the capability of exploring and perhaps conquering the ‘world’.
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Westerners: Look there’s land, we are getting rich!
Ming sailors: Look there are locals, show them we are rich.
Give them some silk and gold to show how generous and above them we are!
Yesssss
@@shirleyxia9988: Yessss.......
@@shirleyxia9988
What?
@@itsoktolovechina the "above them" sentiment is because back then when China was ruled by dynasties it still had that mentality that it was the only civilized nation in the world and every others were barbarians.
It's honestly hilarious that we never learned about any of this in (American) school. Even in WORLD history class we learned nothing about China. It was always Christopher Columbus, Italy, Spain the Vikings, etc... China was never mentioned.
Felix F : When you watched this video, you might have been convinced by it to believe Zheng He's story to be history. But reality is quite different because there are opposite arguments saying that, the Zheng He story is just a false propaganda. Let me give you one hint. This video only told you how many and how huge were Zheng's ships, but it does not tell you how many years were taken to build them. As far as I know from other sources, the Chinese took only less than 3 years to build 317 ships each of which was as large as a football field. This number gave you a building speed of about one ship per 3 days. Mister, do you believe such a speed? Every 3 days a football-size ship was built.... There were many other features the video does not tell you, such as the sail ships sailed up the Yangtze River. According to Chinese narratives, Zheng He's sail ships went up the Yangtze River 7 times. Do you or can you believe so?
Because the Anglo-Saxon mentality is blinded by its complex of superiority.
@@legpol maybe in reality your narrative is twisted too just like you are arguing... Wake up and admit that civilization was flourishing and flourished in the east .
That's funny.. in indian school (private educational institutions)we are taught about everything (every culture,every civilization,every dynasty throughout the centuries across the world and even politics) in a non biased way, by the time we reach 12th grade we know more about other's culture (,what went down and what's going on)than they know about ours 🤣🤣
Really? I learned about China in 7th grade history, along with Egypt, Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome, Persia, and India.
There is a very good reason why the Chinese did not choose to colonise other lands.
Back in those days, well until the mid early 19th century, Chinese products are the most luxurious and wanted trade products in the world.
When ZhengHe came back from his many voyages they bring tributes from faraway kingdoms as a gesture of respect and submission to the Chinese emperor.
The only reason why Portugal and Spain sailed the world later was because their trade route to China and India was blocked by the Ottoman Empire, so ironically the reason why those countries sailed the seas was because they want to reach China.
Whereas China was largely self sufficient.
thesuperproify
"Tributaries"?
Ask everyone in East Asia who isn't Chinese about whether the Chinese chose to colonize other lands. The 55 minority cultures of China became minority cultures of China because the Chinese conquered their lands and colonized them.
Thats amateur af.
@Johan Smid what do you mean there is no proof? there were 7 voyages that conducted numerous missions which resulted complete domination of the south China sea trade route by the Ming for many years. there are lots of Chinese Ming dynasty monuments along the ports of SE Asia all the way to the Middle East and countless artifacts. many nation became tributary states of the Ming all competing for support and trade with China that lasted long after the treasure voyages. the Ming also ended local civil wars and supported leaders that allied themselves to the Ming thus changing local politics. the sea trade routes were made safe when many pirates were defeated. local leaders were told not to invade each other. the nations prospered. local sea ports became wealthy and were able to compete with established international sea ports. records of these developments are countless. there are even western accounts as well. proof is everywhere so I don't see what is funny?
@Johan Smid historical records= archaeological evidence, Ming era monuments = archaeological evidence, Ming era artifacts = archaeological evidence. development of sea ports = archaeological evidence. Ming storehouses along the sea ports where trade was conducted = archaeological evidence. did you not actually read my first comment?
When Admiral Zheng He graced our shores in his diplomatic voyage to Somalia. We gave him the iconic giraffe that became synonymous with his East African mission, as a token of hospitality and friendship. As a result, Mogadishu sent three ambassadorial envoys to China between 1416 and 1423. The first ever African nation to do so.
he never sailed to somalia just mombasa and to a lesser extent malindi in kinya, somalia has never had large wild giraffe populations its too dry. I have even seen some of the artefacts he traded with the coastal natives during that period at the central museum in nairobi
thank you for sharing!
When was the last time an European fleet went to a less advanced civilization only to present the locals with gifts and took local chiefs for a tour of their European homeland. And then taking the local chiefs back again to their tribes with more gifts from the emperor. Anything like this ever happened to a European nation? This is not one time event but in all 7 voyages, or it's some trickery only to trap the locals for later exploitation, It's just human decency, does it make you happy when you see someone else is happy, what's joy to see others suffer?
Chinese culture is different for the West. The west operates on the rule of jungle, West had cultural roots grew out of pirates/traders, they always prey on the weak, they will always take advantage or subjugate the weak if there is a chance. Like a wild animal, always on the outlook for prey. Confucius believed we are humans not animals, only uncivilized barbarians behave like animals. That's why the Chinese behaved differently. I am not saying we Chinese are saints, of cause not, but I believe we behave more humanly, not perfect but decent. We believe in karma, what goes around comes around. I know westerner don't believe what I say, but we watch what we do. Like I said we are not perfect, but we try to be decent human beings.
@@TheMrgoodmanners He did sail to present day Somalia, or so I've heard. Mogadishu was a prime trading port as well as Mombasa.
some ships gots wrecked in east africa. i forget which but pretty sure theres a credible wiki page on it
The Chinese did trade also with the pre-Spanish Philippines, then a group of many ethnic tribes, in fact the Sultan of Sulu Bathara Paducah visited the Emperor Yong Le, and died on his way home, thr emperor built him a tomb worthy of an emperor, still there after 600 years to this day, his descendants were allowed to stay to watch over it.
Such a gracious emperor..
Ramon Ng: This story about Sulu Bathara Paducah might be in doubt because a new incident. In 2018 the Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping told the Philippine people that Zheng He had visited the Philippines multiple times. Immediately a Philippine chief judge denied the story saying Zheng He never visited the Philippines.
@@legpolThe chief judge is not a historian lol
One of the reasons behind those expeditions was that the Yongle Emperor, being an usurper, needed to establish his own achievement to justify his accession to the throne (which is similar with Emperor Taizong of Tang's scenario). Ming Dynasty was wealthy enough under his rule so these expeditions were affordable. At the end of Ming Dynasty it came to the point that it had trouble maintaining a proper field army due to corruption and the effects of little ice age etc.
Considering his and his Grandson’s accomplishments, I would say they earned the Mandate of Heaven. Europe would have remained in the dark ages without that 11,000 volume encyclopedia of all Chinese knowledge and the introduction of Rice in Italy.
@@williamduncan9385 an educated man u r.
@@williamduncan9385 Well said, if a bit hyperbolic.
People often forget that every achievement is built on the shoulders of giants, and its giants all the way down. Europe learned from China, China learned from Europe. Just like how the Europeans learned from the Islamic world, and vice versa. And how China learned from the Islamic world also. No progress was made in a perfect vacuum.
History is always different people learning from others, and then making advances of their own. In this way, humanity as a whole progresses. Unfortunately, with much bloodshed along the way.
The New World in the Americas was only so far behind technologically because they actually isolated from the rest of humanity in the Old World. That and they, unfortunately, lacked suitable pack animals.
China went to Tanzania in 1600s, come back with a herd of giraffes🦒🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒
So what was this ship china's version of noahs ark
@J you are right, i made mistake
Blackanese people there descended from Chinese warriors who took local woman and settled there.
麒麟(qilin)=🦒，actually the pronunciation of giraffe in Japanese and Korea are the same. ( kirin-gilin )
Actually it's 1400s, 200 years earlier
Five thousand years ago, the Chinese faced the floods like the Egyptians. Four thousand years ago, the Chinese played bronze wares like the Cuban people. Three thousand years ago, the Chinese thought of philosophy the same as the Greeks. Two thousand years ago, the Chinese and the Romans went around the same place. A thousand years ago, the Chinese were as wealthy as gold kingdom; now the Chinese are as economically as the Americans. The Chinese have been at the table for five thousand years, and the players across the board have changed waves. History will eventually prove that who will rushes through and who is the real master.
that is why for Chinese leaders UNITY is their most important agenda.
That's why Chinese civilization is the enduring and withstood THOUSANDS of years that Egypt and Mesopotamian won't.
Whatever you say. Lets meet at the local Wienerschnitzel on Mars, get a couple dogs, and talk about it
China is more like a civilization, not a nation. Just imagine the Roman empire exists till today.
@Jonathan Williams sorry it's not.
I lived in Semarang, a capital city of central java. In Semarang, there's also a temple called "Sam Po Kong" that was built to remember the arrival of "Cheng Ho" in Indonesia. which means, Cheng Ho not only went to the Sumatra, and go further to India, but he also went to east of Indonesia, or so i was taught.
Plus all the way up west Africa too and possibly more.
Eric Zong: I believe you were not taught about the communication between the Chinese government and Java, or Indonesia. You see, Zhing Ho did not visit foreign countries as private citizen of China. He visited every country as a national envoy commanding hundreds of huge naval ships (317 or 1456 ships). To visit foreign countries with such a huge armada including about 30,000 sailors must be arranged before departure. Therefore China must have exchanged communications with prospective countries before Zheng He's departure to settle such things as 1, whether other countries allowed Zheng He's visit, 2, whom to meet, 3, where to meet, 4, what to talk about, 5, how long would Zheng He stay, 6, how to accommodate so many huge ships and numerous sailors, 7, etc.
If there was no such written history, most likely Zheng He never commanded any huge armada to visit foreign countries. A slim likelihood could be that, he visited some countries as a private person without meeting any king in foreign land.
@@1313hyme : Yes, Zheng He might have visited as far as Africa. But most likely he went there as a private citizen, not as a government envoy commanding a huge armada of huge naval ships (one version says he had 317 ships while another says he had 1456 ships).
@ : Yes Zheng Ho might have gone to Yemen and Africa. Yet I believe he went there as a private citizen, not as a government-sent diplomatic official. The proof is, he did not see the Yemen king, nor see any king in Africa. No diplomatic business was recorded in any country he had visited.
@@whkwole6842 there are some written documents but most were burned during the burning of books in the Ming dynasty. Also ask the Indonesia, India, K enya, south Africa, Sri Lanka, and more. So don't be a caveman and learn something new. For a starter, read your National Geographic.
I remember reading that Chinese sailors had reached the coast of Tanzania and had obtained various goods even a giraffe
Salha Masoud: What you had read must be written by Chinese because Zheng He's huge fleet was never seen by any foreigners, Zheng He's presence in foreign lands was never reported by foreigners, Zheng He never left any words to foreign governments, and finally there was not any correspondence between Chinese and foreign governments about Zheng He' meetings with foreign officials. It was only a one-sided narration about Zheng He doing this and that in far away places.
@@legpol How pathetic. Temples honoring Zhenghe were founded across Southeast Asia till this day: Thailand, Cambodia, Malasia, and Indonesia. Denying facts and history only makes you stupid
@@stevemraz3883 : Please make a difference between Zheng He and the fleet. I never denied Zheng He, he might have travelled and left some footprint in southeast Asian countries. What I was denying is his fleet. It was too huge to be ignored by witnesses in foreign countries, and there was no foreign witness. However, the fleet was reported by some local Chinese only, none foreign. And, all the Chinese reports were too huge to be believable. Such as 1), every 3 days a huge ship was built. 2) in 3 years 317 - 1600 huge ships were built. 3) huge ships were capable to sail up the Yangtze River. Can you show that these are facts? If you cannot, then who is stupid? (There are more Chinese reports too huge to be believed if you stay.)
@@JW-xr9kb : Thank you for giving me a new book to read. But since the book tells the Zheng He story as history, it is the same stuff as this video. Therefore I chose not to read it. I noted that Zheng He was also called "Admiral" in the book. This military rank was a lie. Zheng He was never given any military rank. He was called and addressed "eunuch" in a book called Ying Ya Sheng Lan 瀛涯胜览 written down by his interpreter Ma Huan. Therefore, to call Zheng He admiral is wrong history, fake history. It is not worth reading. If you have the information about the construction of the ships used by Zheng He, telling the world how and why his ships were built so fast, I shall appreciate it very much.
@@legpol Come on. "Zheng He's presence in foreign lands was never reported by foreigners", This is your own words, please don't all of a sudden replace it with something else. Read this literature: Portuguese and Chinese Maritime Imperialism: Camoes's Lusiads and Luo Maodeng's Voyage of the San Bao Eunuch. See if Zheng He has made it to Africa or not and how great it was, so when the Porturgees came decades later after Zheng He the Africans mistook them as Chinese in the first place
The oldest mosque in Java Indonesia built by Zheng He a Chinese Muslim Admiral, its just mind blowing considering these recent years
Zayed Haroon Yes, he was Muslim. But it wasn’t even mentioned in this documentary
@Zayed Haroon it is said one target of his voyages was to haj at Mekka in personal.
Iwan : Some native Chinese do not believe the great naval fleet commanded by Zheng He. It was reported and claimed by the Chinese ruling party that the fleet consisted of 317 huge ships, each was about the size of a football field, and was built within 3 years in one shipbuilding yard in a city Nanjing on the Yangtze River, about one ship per 3 days. Is such a fast building speed possible? This is not all. The fleet was built for sightseeing only. After Zheng He finished his sightseeing, the whole fleet was completely destroyed, not one was left. Mister, can such a thing be real?
@mohd izwan : Since Zheng He came with a huge fleet of more than 300 huge ships, your country must have some records telling about those ships, not records written by Chinese immigrants to your country in later years. It must be records written by your fellow countrymen telling the arrival of the ships and Zheng He. I so asked because now some Chinese themselves raised doubts about this huge fleet saying it was a hoax.
@Zayed Haroon The emperor built a mosque for Zheng He--the Jingjue Temple, in city,Nanjing.
The Chinese identity in itself is a weird thing, it’s peculiar how an identity can survive through so many cultures.
They just keep going.
Eh, it's really just one culture that has integrated other elements into it over time...
It's the Chinese civilization. It continues to evolve till this day. That's why it can survive the ups and downs over the long history.
They just keep going...always down the wrong road.
@@donkeyslayer4661 Wrong road? How do you know? What makes you think you can tell whether it's right or wrong? What a joke!
@@donkeyslayer4661 if they always went down the wrong road they'd cease to exist like the roman empire or the huns.
I think one of the reason why the Chinese did not choose to colonise other lands is that China had already expanded more territory and population than what an ancient government can actually control during each dynasty.
China has no incentives to colonize other lands. European has a real reason to colonize as they want to dominate to spices trade. It’s all about money.
@@taro7145 agree, as Chinese are rich inside with long history and colorful culture. they need to nothing to prove their existence.
There is also a concerned of civil war when an empire is too large to manage
@daniel yu wrong. China never really expanded their territory except when she was rule by foreign power. China expanded during the Mongle rule and then the Qing. So its not proper to say Chinese people conquer other lands. China just kept it together all the lands that was conquer under foreign rule.
what about Tibet?
the philosophy of not conquering the world but living together with the rest of world made China last five thousand years sustained civilization. not stealing land from the native Indians is the key for a longlasting civilization.
You are suggesting Chinese dynasties never acquired land that belonged to someone else?
5000 year "sustained" civilization?? What kinda weird rules/guidelines are you using for that?
@@ReasonAboveEverything China's territory is formed by cultural integration, which was formed by the integration of various ethnic groups when they ruled China
I've no idea when this documentary was made, but the historian is definitely wrong about Chinese contact with Australia. I grew up in Australia's remote tropical north and know that evidence of Chinese contact prior to European contact abounds. Chinese Middle Kingdom coins and 900 year old African coins have been discovered on islands just off the Northern Territory coast, presumably from a Chinese treasure shipwreck. More recently, documentary and even photographic evidence has been unearthed from Spanish and Dutch administrators in the Philippines and Indonesia describing Australian aboriginal crews on Chinese junks prior to European settlement of northern Australia. Chinese junks are depicted in aboriginal rock art, and linguists also point to language similarities between some southeast Asian regional dialects and the languages of aboriginal groups along the north coast of Australia. And finally, Chinese historical records reveal a increase in the importation of trepang (dried sea cucumber) from Australia that precisely coincide with this period in Chinese history. On the whole, a very unsatisfying and poorly researched show - just another example of European cultural imperialism.
Guangzhou traders were in contact with Australian Aboriginals in the top end way before European settlement.
They think the coins could have come from Indonesian traders.
I can't remember where I heard it, but I remember a program that said the dingo was introduced into Australia by the Chinese rather than Aborigines.
Of course I cannot guarantee that statement's veracity and I'm watching this in bed late at night so I'm certainly not going to start researching it now!
You are confusing Chinese with Macassan (Indonesian) contact. Evidence for Portuguese and Spanish contact before the Dutch is very poor.
@Lon Chan the pieri riese map was taken from space,thousands of yrs ago.with cameras..!!..deny that.!!!.
This is what I like about this channel. I have literally no idea what the next documentary coming out it is going to be on.
The internal workings of a cockatiel’s big toenail 👍
The disunity of Europe led to endless wars, but when Columbus was turned down by Portugal he simply went next door to the King of Spain. When the Chinese emperor said no, however, that was it.
That's why Europeans discovered and settled in North America and the Chinese didn't.
@@generalripper7528 europeans discovered america by mistake though. They wanted to go to asia where they can find the riches, even Columbus mistook american natives as Indians.
@@harukrentz435 The word "discovered" already implies that they didn't know America existed.
yeah, chaos and micromanagement make europe and japan BIG powers
@@harukrentz435 You can't discover something that has already been discovered/land lived on by peoples already...also Asian blood is in some of the Natives mixed with African blood.
By that size of the fleet, China could also start their colonization globally in the early of 15th century, plus they had the most advanced firearm, cannon, gun etc. The reason why they didn't colonize is because they were too wealthy at that time. There empire under Ming Dynasty had enough wealth, treasure, food and so on. It wasn't necessary for them to colonize other lands when they already had the best land. Portugal and Spain were poor with limited resources before the age of discovery, that was the reason why they desperate on colonization.
Vikings too. Also Great England and Scotland, people were desperate and starving. for lack of arable land.
@@tinahedge5569, and yet they have bred over a billion!
Its not the size that counts, its how you use it.
Geez, I feel humorous today.
@@RUHappyATM
uh, it's because China actually had real medicine, we don't believe that bleeding can help illnesses, so our children can live to 60, not dying by droves at 5.
@@peiranzhang4283, WTF does breeding has to do with bleeding?
@@RUHappyATM
Chinese birth rate was almost identical to Europe.
But in Europe, if a children is sick, they would cut the children to release "evil spirts"
In China, they would be given herbal medicine, which means the infant mortality rate would be much less in China. And also China had better farming technology, so less children starved to death too. Plus rice produces more calaries per acre.
The name of Xeng He is nowhere near as well-known as it should be. He was everything Columbus wanted to be.
Xeng had more toys to play with and more money, power and privilege to throw around. I could only imagine what Columbus could do if he had Xeng kind of resources but you got to play the cards you get.
@Eddie Simongkhonh The problem with America is some people don't know their history. Hint.
You will find that Columbus had balls.
negan rex slaughter more native Americans?
@Eddie Simongkhonh The Chinese travelled the East ward route to America.Look at the Eskimos and the American Indians do they look Polynesians or Orientals?
as a Malaysian Chinese (NOT descended from the Treasure fleet, most Malaysian Chinese came during the Qing dynasty and after), I had family talk about how the government used to teach about the voyages of the fleet as part of history. Sadly, this isn't the case anymore as the government either scraped or modified the curriculum to remove any Chinese "fantasies" from their malay history.
The thing is people kept on using this part of the history and place the Western style of conquest and pillage mode into comparison. The ideology of taking ships 10 times the scale of the Western ships to sea and going around the ocean isn't about conquesting and colonizing another region. It is simply to establish a wider presence and possible trade routes.
Very true indeed.
Exactly! Not predatory at all.
I'll tell you the real reason... What Chinese fleets see is ancient South Asia and Africa, they saw people half naked and women with breasts exposed. You can imagine the Chinese think that the farther away they go from China, the less civilization there will be，all the world except China are savages，there is no civilization elsewhere. Very unpleasant theory, but very likely. They know the existence of ancient Rome and Europe, but out of arrogance, people would rather believe that they are the center of civilization, and others are inferior to themselves. After that China just deliberately isolated itself.
The Chinese just wish they could have done what the Europeans did.
But in essence, it still shows the fact that the Chinese had the power to do what the Europeans did but chose not to.
The "pirate ship" that sold them fresh fish was named Iskandar which may be a reference to Iskandar Agung, who is said to have lived in a volcano in Northern Sumatra and ridden a flying horse, which is the local name for Alexander the Great and a legendary figure in those parts though he went no further than India. I encountered this legend when i was studying history as a child in Indonesia in the sixties. We were also taught about the trading junks of Zheng He in the Indonesian archipelago.
Fascinating. Thank you.
Quite interesting that even in places Alexander didn't travel to. He is a Legend.
Very interesting!
Junks?
what JUNKS u meant?
Chinese Imperial fleets visited many different parts of the world, East Asia (Including China obviously but also Japan and Korea and Siberia), South East Asia (modern day Indonesia, Malaysia, The Philippines, Vietnam, Burma, Thailand, etc), South Asia (India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan), South West Asia (the Persian Gulf, the Red Sea, Arabia, etc), Africa and probably the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian Ocean and the Atlantic Ocean.
And probably the northern coast of Australia and the west coast of North America and possibly South America were also visited.
Don't forget never never land.
i believe the chinese found atlantis as well
@@cheerio2298 don’t forget El Dorado as well!
you literally named every landmass on earth
@@marcusaurelius2455 Worst soap opera ever!
Superb history lesson ☘️ Thank you so much for sharing with us 🌼
As an American, I only see that China must be respected as the power they are and have always been!
Rekz the world is ruled by sinophobes today
Matthew Tenorio Dueñas you taught me a new word describing a problem Ive seen my whole life in people around me
YES! While you respect CCP, CCP sees you as an enemy. Happy now?
no respect for CCP murderers
@@UUUUmmU The Chinese CCP does not equate the Chinese people
Admiral Cheng Ho had been to the Samudra Pasai kingdom, gave gifts of bells and is now at an intersection in ace
wonderful documentary
Hi . They were here in New Zealand ....Ming Potery had been discovered...The story goes only one ship survived some kind of Mega eruption in Taupo Aotearoa New Zealand 🇳🇿 and sailed home
Amazing
Would be great that if you makes a video to CZcams about these findings.
The corrupted politicians did destroyed a lot of records, seems to me...
But, how did they discovered NZ without discovering Australia?
@@pgdaszzz7399 u can end up anywhere on earth without GPS 😂
@@pgdaszzz7399 Maui the so called Maori demi God who myth says he fished up the North Island 🏝What a legend lol ..MAUI WAS AN EGYPTIAN...Fact ..Yes the Gosford Hieroglyphics ,in Australia tell us his Dynasty, his journey, "so you go figure"....Our narrative is a lie ..Deceiving ,it doesn't add up ..Fact !!!.
the only one thing we are all here for. Is ... GOD!!!!. WE ARE ALL GOD'S CHILDREN IN GODS NAME AND HAND
They walked away peacefully but world wouldn't let them go.
Calling the ancient Chinese peaceful is about like calling Jon Holmes asexual.
@@uio890138 china really wasn’t the type of invade well besides the yuan dynasty
@@benice6908 tang? han dynasties? oh, and qing also
Ming China gave up the seas just as the Europeans, starting with the Portuguese, committed to it. As to why the Ming looked inward one often neglected reason was that the ruling class did not really benefit from the sea trade, they derived their wealth from agricultural production. The sea trade made a segment of the trading class extremely wealthy and increasingly powerful, threatening the old land-owning aristocrats and some of their Confucian allies in the Imperial Court (whose power came from land and agricultural taxes). When they had the chance they were determined to kill the sea trade.
Zheng Chenggong: Gave up the seas？
It is caused by officials' fear of death, and the other one is internal and external troubles, fearing that external enemies will break in.
I believe the Chinese were far ahead of other civilizations for a long time. Their innovations and invention were astonishingly creative and economically productive long before other countries had even begun to think in terms of this type of progress. Their morels and spiritual ideals based upon , ancestry and family , seems to have created a balance or outlook on life not achieved by other means . I think the Chinese had a unique understanding about the important aspects of life and death that took most other people a long time to figure out....Right or wrong...these are just my thoughts.
Agriculture took a very early start in Yellow River area, which is very easy land to farm. It was and still remains the best agricultural land on Earth. This was the birth place of all "Chinese" civilization. Then the lucky farmers were over run by the Aryans bringing wagons, chariots, horses etc
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The Egyptians also managed great things in their time, though via different paths to their successes. In those early times, since Sumeria cultivated wheat, farming was key to any settlement that would grow into a great world power.
Words of wisdom, Indeed!
Really does not matter. What matter is that China managed to shut themself in the knee since Han conquests and just did not do too much in the past 1000 years. A corrupt to the top society is doomed, as is doomed today US (China is notoriously corrupt as well). We may say thank you to China for challenge our society, we grown lazy. They will have a surprise when we'll finish with the pandemic and start focus on them.
@@alexbosorogan7501 Man, are you people projecting and delusional or what?
"Just did not do too much in the past 1000 years."
lol. Literally, you're talking about western history after the Roman Empire fell. Its called teh Dark Ages in the West for a reason.
Meanwhile China continue to grow and build relationships with the rest of the world. So many inventions came during this period of China that you said "did not do too much". lololololol
And mate, you have been focused on trying to conquer China since the Qing Dynasty. Could barely beat them then and not in Vietnam or Korea. So good luck.
he mapped the world, marco polo saw this map, which led to columbus setting out
I respectfully disagree: Marco Polo visited China during the late 13th century. Admiral Xeng Ho sailed either in the 15th or 16th century; no way he mapped the world and sent Columbus sailing West to the New World.
Yuan Ming Yuan Treasure still place in UK
Narriator will claims those evidence as honour and victory
But never feel shame it was just trophies robbed by 8 empire of loots…
Really nice the deepest and widest history in the world. Soo rich history. I am from Estonia and Mongolia.👏👏👏
Every Chinese person who knows his home country's history, knows of Zheng He's treasure voyages.
His voyages unfortunately didn't help in the long run. Now Christopher Columbus was a great voyager, and the significance of his three voyages changed the world.
Joe Burns Zheng He's voyagers helped put China on the radar with our regional neighbours. It's part of the reason why there are so many people of Chinese ancestry in Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, etc.
peter gho@
The Chinese did not discovered Africa before Europeans because Europeans were already there. Civilization was destroyed there already 3 times and Europeans were never out of Africa. You forget that Egypt already was at war with the Hittite Empire and we know today that the Hittites were of European origin. Ancient Greeks were already in heavy trading with the Egypt and founded several colonies in the North of Africa.
There is no prove that China discovered Australia before the Dutch.
China has enough great realizations and doesn't really need fake ones.
peter gho he didn't kill natives or steal their land. That was other explorers after him. Please note, back in history, all places including Asia had violent episodes in which greed brought out the worst in people, including China in the 50s and 60s (Mao anyone) - millions were starved/killed.
Joe Burns Mao Zedong did not kill millions people out of "greed". They were starved unintentionally because of events like the Great Chinese Famine during 1950s and 1960s. And Chinese people are still majors in our own lands, but look at Native Americans and Australian aboriginals. They were once the majority but have been reduced to being minorities in their own lands.
Zheng he did discovered the world, we just don’t want slaves.
Zheng He was Muslim.
@@nicolaspace1182 and was an eunuch
What is china colonizing africa right now for. What are the muslims and sweatshops in China?
True... but that was centuries ago. The China now is far different from the China during the 15th century.
you just build sweatshops in africa lmao go larp elsewere as liberator chang
Deep informative documentary.
They was here too... last week, when I went to the Take-Away.
I’m not surprised that the Chinese didn’t go further.
A Confucian civilization whose ideals are based on social harmony, love of humanity, and humility would never stoop down to European colonialist degeneracy.
Right, just look at Chinese history, full of harmony and humility... lol
Actually, the reason China withdrew was 100% because of Confuciusm
Totally agree, confuciusm made the acinet chinese comfortable with what they had and stopped exploring.
not really... more to do with spending money fighting invaders in the north - and stifling business in the south. The Ming made wrong decisions
@@armstrongchan1417 but communism hinders from new ideas n ways it is even much more conservative n inward looking than any other ism or religious ideology.it Rob's away even personal freedom
It was because Xeng had no balls.
@@neganrex5693 he had brains n vision
Even three years later after the issue of this video I am still very fascinated by this story. I am proud of being a Chinese.
Unfortunately some Chinese believe Zheng He's voyages story is a fiction, and was unknowingly pushed to the world as history.
Even after China committed the greatest mass murder ever on the world?
There is a new Zealand myth that a Chinese fleet was sailing around new Zealand around 500 years ago there was a large tidal wave that destroyedbthe fleet except 1 ship that was ancered behind an island and made it home to tell the story.there has been egg shell China found in New Zealand beaches and a large ship Skelton made of chines wood that was very old 6000 years with testing .egg shell China was only made for a short time matching this fleets time frame
probably a meme propagated by the Chinese government as an element to manipulate people into believing China had a right to own or influence New Zealand in the future.
@@krisskross3076 Ignorance does a lot to people, like it has to you
@@krisskross3076 lol meme? Bruh...
Woah very interesting, thanks for sharing!
Love the idea of China discovering North& South America!😄
Native wouldn’t be massacred!
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts The Polynesians were great seafarers.
Poor Admiral never find his way to Mecca for his pilgrimage.
They say ancient Chinese artifacts pop up on US west coast . I have no doubt.
we build chinatowns everywhere, including space
Its very Interesting the fact that Typhon in ancient Greek mythology was a monstrous serpentine giant . We Greeks believe that this monster gave its name to this monster like wind Typhoon and in this video I 've learned that it truly comes from Chineese!
The Chinese dragons are just typholns
An excellent documentary, shame so few of the viewers scroll down to leave a like.
Thank you.
That's because they are CCP bots
It’s interesting to observe that the (Lambert) commentator can just project the obvious Anglo way of thinking. I’m sure the Chinese of the 15th Century had another view of their rol in the surrounding world outside the empire. The fact that they didn’t attempt to invade, to sack, to conquer or colonize shows what is the Chinese rol into the world and what separate them with the Europeans and their descendants.
navegante zen You know those Europeans worldview is simple get to China whereas you don't need to get to China when you are China. Colonies are just a happy accident or unhappy for the ppl who got colonized. Still we should thank them for enabling what was the modern world trade economy or large plantation we have now derived from those large slave ones, bonds, insurance and many technology all followed soon after those big profits they get from colonization.
navegante zen: Your statement "The fact that they didn’t attempt to invade, to sack, to conquer or colonize shows what is the Chinese rol into the world and what separate them with the Europeans and their descendants." doesn't apply to land territories because there are 56 native nations currently surviving in China; they were all invaded, sacked, conquered by China. Why China did not invade in the maritime domain was because the great fleet never existed. It existed only in a novelist story.
If you like, please read this article: 郑和下西洋乃是个夸大到千万倍的虚假宣传.
Got to love the unapologetic hyper racist statement.
Funny how Elizabeth had nothing but "pirates" in your other video. But everyone here is noble and good. *LMFAO*
It's true
Why do you even wasted your time watch this if you think this is untrue...
@@azwanrazali296 yeah it's true that this video is inaccurate
@@KK-vp8be why not?
With the navigational skills at the fleets disposal; for that time in Chinese history it's possible that they travelled around the globe. There is evidence from the Southern eastern coast of Africa that there were trade with China in the early middle ages.
The route was already known. The trade among China, Southeast Asia (esp Indonesia), India, Arab, Africa, & Egypt was already thousand years old at Zheng He's time. The Srivijava Empire of Indonesia was a hub for chinese monks who wanted to study buddhism in India in the 6th century.
@@harukrentz435 Exactly. They added little to navigational knowledge.
And good luck navigating the Atlantic ocean with such big boats without knowing what you were doing.
For ocean exploration, smaller and agile ( like the portuguese created caravel ) was the ideal fit at the time.
Thank you, very informative documentary
Prof. Andrew Lambert gives his personal explanations to historical events from western point of view, specially when it comes to Chinese emperor and his goals. China and Chinese now, and specially then, have different values toward life.You have to take into account influence of confucianism, taoism and buddhism in China vs christianity in the west.
Wasn't Zheng He muslim?
@@tdn4773 Yes.
@@tdn4773 Admiral Zenghe was a Muslim. Islam was in China since the 10th Century but only as a minority.
The Chinese were not the colonialist type of people. That is a white upstart thing.
@@tdn4773 yes. That shows how cosmopolitan Ming China already was.
The religion of Confucianism, Buddhism and Taoism discouraged Chinese of that era from conquering those lands.
No, becoz it's expensive to maintain colonies
Amazing history of China...
Respect 🙏🙏🙏
fascinating story :D damned clever those Chinese ! don't recall ever seeing western tall ships with staggered mast arrangements like the eastern treasure ships - gargantuan !
Especially considering that ships were like 5 times slower than European and could not withstand big waves.
The European square rig would demonstrate a remarkable ability to sail windward as noted by both Chinese and European sources it was better than a Junk rigged ship could do.
Interesting why would small countries like the Netherlands with 1.5 million people in the 17th century have huge colonies in South East Asia like 15-ish thousand kilometres from their homeland and just a couple of kilometres from China?
And how is that possible that the Portuguese were carrying cargo between China, Korea and Japan in the 16th century - just a hundred years after that so cool fleet of billion kilometre long wooden ships. Same about the navigation etc. Astrolabe and other navigation devices were better in Europe and up to the fall of Ming in the mid 17th century, the best astronomers in Beijing were Jesuits lol. Chinese, Korean and Japanese were usually sailing near the coastal lines, not in the midst of an ocean.
@@user-wu2ph4de4o You make fair valid points. Thanks for your insight.
@@user-wu2ph4de4oyes but that was 250 years after Zheng Be
Not the Japanese music immediately as the video starts 💀💀💀
China has been one of the most powerful nation on the planet for centuries, it had a short disruption during the past 200 years, but as we can see, it's raising back to its normal status again. this is the single most resilient and unified civilization in history. good video
Well, that's what the modern Han Chinese say.
The main reason is that there was no peer pressure from neighboring countries for the government of the Ming Dynasty.
I was told that one ship survived,and returned to China,so is there evidence of this trip in China or was it all burned.The late Noel Hilliam`s radio carbon dating of a piece of the wreck came out at 5000 years but this does not mean that the actual boat was of that age.Still it is very exciting
During the reign of Ming Dynasty in the 14th century, Sultan Paduka Pahala of Sulu visited China accordingly to establish diplomatic relations. The place is in the southernmost part of the Philippines thousands of miles from China. Was accorded with utmost hospitality by the Emperor. Back home the Sultan died along the way while their boats were negotiating the Yangtze river, and buried per instruction of the Emperor, develop and now a tourists destination . How in this world in an island far remote from mainland China knew a great civilization existed north of his domain if not a Chinese national visited his place?
There is a book in English language wrote Ming dynasty fleets reached Africa. Book title is 1644.
Ming dynasty already gone
Everything oscillates, empires are no different.
Not your mom
That's hardly surprising since she's dead.
China's own nickname for itself "the bitter ocean" is telling, and the concept of "Wu Li" or: "patterns of organic energy" make your point as well. There are no wave tops without troughs.
@@SRNF lol
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The only reason China is so closed off is that they were really abused by the main powers like Britain and Japan which really devastated them in the past. That and the Mongolian empire during the Han.
They not going to let outsiders come in again because the poverty line was so so so bad - I am happy to see that they have turned their country to a prosperous one again. Have to admire that.
Gotta admit, those are some pretty dope looking boats.
China was only founded in 1949.Hans did with so many attempts in IndoChina even in northern Philippines,they failed.They only succeeded in 1950s, in Tibet.🧐
Chinese dynasties and emperors: "Are we a f**king joke to you!?" Learn some more history pup.
I have goosebumps
I see that you have never opened a can of meat with a key. The key is turned and not pulled. The turning of the key provides more than ample force to rip the metal strip from the can.
Western nations should remember that culturally China has no imperialist or colonialist ambition. They have enough territory & resources and they just want to trade peacefully with other nations. China respects other nations forms of government and expect other nations to do the same. Having been invaded twice by the British ans once by Japan, China knows the pain & humiliation their country endured and would not want to cause such suffering to another country. However, the Increasing aggression & hostility of the US & its allies is forcing China to build up their defence to avoid another invasion by western countries jealous of their growth & prosperity.
so this is just another Nationalist myth.
I believe that china was a colony of the qing of the manchus...
China is sending global chaos to meet their demands for land and resources to feed her 1.4 billion people
China respects other nations? China is the bully of her own neighbors... robbed their own neighbors of land and resources and made it to appear as territorial disputes by using comical historical claim
And that is why it has crossed the china wall it was it's border once upon a time and you are giving it a peaceful nation s title how silly it is
what year was this documentary made
Awesome thanks for uploading.
They came to New Zealand ... Chinese pottery was found i. .People have discovered up north in the Hokianga Harbour ...Even the ribs of old fleetships were washed up here and the coast of Oregon
Richard Morgan in Oregon? Where? No one mentioned, guess history will be rewritten
@@velavanlaack9134 They haven't, there is a reason they are generally not mentioned.
The "ribs of old feetships" were just tree trunks buried under beach sand, it was a case of a group of hopefuls REALLY REALLY jumping the gun.
LOL. Chinese ships did not have ribs. You are an obviously pathetic CCP troll.
@@velavanlaack9134 New Zealand and Oregon ..
They even came out to take them away ....One man took a rib from the ship and got it carbon tested it was 5000 to 6 thound years old .Chinese tree.. ..Skeletons in the cupboard on you tube ..at one time Chinese ruled the waves
Everybody who comes to sri lanka, leaves happy..... Thank u for coming....
He found the stone tablet.... in a museum. Cutting edge archeology indeed
China could have ruled the world but they were peaceful and decent. They ended up getting invaded by Japan and UK who were not so peaceful or decent.
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts how critical thinking of you to believe the lies of the same group of people tht have invaded china. 😂
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts also uk only gave hk people their voting rights right before the handover as a f u to china. The brits have stomped on them for a 100 years
No, they couldn't. The logistics involved and technology needed to do it were just not available.
Then add internal conflicts, change of leadership, environmental problems, famines, revolts from local conquered cultures, ect.ect. basically everything that's ever stopped everyone else from doing the same thing. It's not like they're the super people of the world. They are people. They would have run into the same problems people always do.
Very helpful for my history class - thank you! 1:23
Lucky you're not a dog.
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yeah, no. Columbus wasn't the first to reach North America. Vikings did that.
Of the europeans yes. And thats late after others
Victor Gear, before the Vikings was the Chinese
Victor Gear and, Colombus arrived at islands in the Caribbean, not North America. Vikings still rule...
The Polynesians were the first to visit the native Americans
But he was the first Jew.
Remind me never to take the civil service exam.
Hahaha
14:50 a little picky but those are "Courtesy Ensigns" not "Flags". A flag would indicate sovereignty.
Q. Does our Navy fly them on port visits?
A. Yes but only from a mast used for such things, never on the one you would fly the state flag from.
1:00 "everything old, is new again"
"Nothing new exists under the Sun"
*To all the people complaining about ads*
Use Adblock for Pete's sake, it costs you nothing, takes no space and takes less than a minute to get. After that the only ads you'll ever have to suffer through are those that people in the videos read up to you and those ain't that many.
Oh Yea
Portugal started its age of discoveries in 1415, but the preparations started even before at the end of the 14th century. So, long before china even think to do it, or any other country in those times, in any other part of the world.
Why take Columbus journey to the America's as reference point of "European" explorations??
The Portuguese reached the Canary Islands in 1336, 156 years before Columbus. Madeira 1419, Azores Islands 1427, Newfoundland 1473, the whole West Coast of Africa from Ceuta to Cape of good Hope 1415-1488.
So tell me why using Columbus as reference point for the beginning of sea exploration???
I think the Salish are of Chinese descent. Their artworks are far too similar for there not to be an influence.
Salish? Where is that in reference to? Sorry I'm lost by the name
a waking giant... Napoleon i believe said that
Very interesting . Thanks for sharing .
Interesting, I am from Nanjing!!!
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Olá vc ppode me informar as médias dos juncos de pesca ? Por favor ?
Acho q o do vídeo era um junco usado pra pesca não é ? Acho q isso foi falado no vídeo
Vc deve estar se perguntando pq eu tô querendo essa informação não é ?
Bem eu... Eu preciso dessas informações pq tô fazendo um RPG de mesa q vai se passar aqui no Brasil durante o século 15 e eu quero por esse lindo navio de vcs na minha história
Infelizmente não poderá ser os gigantescos 😅
mas preciso das medidas de algum junco q seja ao menos o mesmo tamanho dos navios europeus nem q sejam um pouco maiores q os europeus
Se puder me ajudar eu
agradeço muito 🤝🏻🇧🇷
Infelizmente são informações difíceis de se achar por aqui
What an ultimate power trip! # Like a boss
in this video ，clothes is Qing清，no Ming明 clothes,Ming clothes are supremely more beautiful than Qing
nah qing is better than that Han revolt dynasty :P
@@LetsGoGetThem your opinion is wrong.
I am always curious what happens at the end of these epic but seemingly one way journeys. Do they sail back, stopping at different ports? Do they sell the boat and fly or travel back some other way? Fabulous adventure anyway :)
They went back safely to China after visiting various ports in Southeast Asia, India, and Africa. The sail route itself was known for generations before Zheng He, so the voyage wasnt intended to open new trade but just to show the "world" just how rich the Ming Dynasty was.
So after that it got scrapped and voyage was no more.
@@harukrentz435 thank you for the information :)
@@bihapi that’s cool
They sailed back without invaded any country unlike columbus 。 THIS proved that the Chinese is not aggresive from within their Dna 。
They taught local people the technics of agricultural and trade ， exchange local spices and goods 。 From times to times some sailor stayed and married with local women。
I can't believe it. Chinese premier Li Keqiang said that 600 million Chinese workers earn 1,000 Yuan ($155) per month. Not enough to rent a room in the city.
Excellent documentary 👏👏👏👏. Didn't read this on any history books or been told in school.
Armani : Chinese history books used in their schools might be telling a novelist story as a historical one. If we read the original book 瀛涯勝覽 written by Ma Huan (馬歡），self-claimed Zheng He's interpreter, we might find that the Zheng He voyages to be a novel instead of being a history.
We could even find so by asking the video host doctor Wang Tao to sail his ship back to Nanjing. The trick is, no sail ships can operate in running waters; sail ships can only operate in still waters. Yet according to Chinese narratives, Zheng He had returned to Nanjing from the sea. This returning to Nanjing apparently betrayed the historical nature of Zheng He's story. Will the historical professors take the challenge?
Lots of ads but good doc.
The Wu Di emporers fleet commanded by Zheng He came to new zeakand...the dalai lama came here and spoke of the records he was taught from that were in the lamaseries in tibet...these talk of the monks living with Maori for a longish time while the fleet was mapping the coastline...during this mapping time the Mahuika meteorite impacted in the southern tasman sea causing massive tsunami (~150 mtrs) that destroyed vast numbers of ships...
Ma he, Sanbao, Zheng he.
But in Indonesia we call him Laksamana Cheng Ho.
He is one of those who contributed to spreading Islam throughout Indonesia...
In 1313, Wang Zhen's publication of 1313, known as the Nong Shu (農書), or Book of Agriculture, very likely made its way to Italy triggering the Italian Renaissance. Centuries of Chinese inventions contained in that book ended up as Leonardo da Vinci illustrations one century later. Co incidence ? By the way, Donatello was born in1386, so by the time he is 27, Nong Shu is already 100 years old. To think that this book did not make it to Italy in 100 years doesn't seem plausible, considering Marco Polo has already made the trip to China in the 1200s.
Good documentary!
I agree with the commenters here who have said that China had contact with Australia. There is some evidence of that (which has been mentioned) and Australia is not all that far from Indonesia, where trade has been carried out for many centuries. It would have been easy for the Chinese to go from Indonesia to Australia.
Since there was nothing in Australia at that time except scattered Stone Age tribes, there was no reason to go there, and no reason to record the fact if you did happen to accidentally land there.
Yeah but when they got to Australia, not much there hey.
Fascinating
It’s saddening to read so many hate comments on China
Yeah it is.
If aliens ever come to visit Earth, they better come to Asia, not to western countries...
Napoleon talk about china let the dragon sleep
yahwehsonren dont wake a sleeping dragon