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UPDATE: jubilee CEO contacted Aba N Preach, and they resolved the strikes - czcams.com/video/XYNCtXDZkqM/video.html TLDR - they striked them because, - they felt like some ppl were stealing their content by reacting to it (but it was obviously fair use) - they need money to produce videos and they were having trouble funding stuff? so they thought its cause of the reactions taking away money/views from them... makes very little sense - basically, they messed up, and now they resolved it
reaction videos using the hole original video is not fair use, if they cut out most of the original video and only keep bare minimum of scenes needed for what they wanna talk about, it is but from what i can see of their videos they do not this keeping 100% of the original video in there, jubilee is 100% in their legel right to take down those videos, Also it sound jubilee is not doing copyright take downs (AKA just giving them a strike right away) but rather are sending them takedown notices so that they can remove the offending videos before they get a strike, you do not have to do this and it shows a good faith effort by jubilee to try and handle this nicely. Ok so you wright a book, you spend a years worth of work and money (living expenses and so on) doing this and release it to the public, i copy your entire book but add my nores about it in my copy, making a full copy, with extra notes from me Mr important person. Do you see the sense now in how its stealing their veiws and thereby money.
@@valdemartomlinson From what I know about fair use. Its okay to use 100% of the video if you make commentaries to it. Adding values to it. Its been done for years now. And nope what they do is fair use. If its not then a lot of reaction content creators will get shutdown years ago. An exception to it is reacting to things that got payed like films, anime, concerts, etc. Showing the contents on steeam or videos warrant copyright strike unless its like 5 seconds of clips
@@Einz913 Copyright laws also protect stuff aired for free on ad supported services, like CZcams. Reactors get shut down all the time but here is the cleaver trick they use for you to not notice it... They upload 15 videos a day (not litteraly) And no its not ok to use 100% of the work, any an all copyright suit that would go to court where they used 100% (Vines and other super short content would maybe be allowed as it has never see a court of law as far as i know) of the OG work unaltered (Altered being a parody song as an example) they would lose, it will properly never go to court it cost alot of money, which is why reaction content thrives so much even though its fully not legally protected, it not fair use its theft. While my tone might have been a little hostile here it is not at you but rather the lies reactors have feed you and so many others over the years to protect themselves from their horrible practices of stealing other peoples hard work to enrich themselves
Also little note i forgot to fully explain, if you copyright strike someone and they then dispute it you need to take them to court before it can be fully resolved, So reactor upload your video, you strike them, they dispute it, you now gotta eaither. Take them to court spending hundreds of thousands in legal fees. Or just let them steal your video losing like 5 bucks a month in lost revenure. Or id claim their video taking all the money or some of the money for yourself. (This one is only really done by big companies as getting your stuff into the content id is not easy for a normal person(from what i hear))
@valdemartomlinson i mever knew reaction content go that far. But I do know that some content creators will edited it out the video too. Like uncensored version in Patreon or stuff. I guess context must be known too. Like for example I think Aba had a problem since the company consent for video used as a reaction
The fact that Jubilee's CEO went from saying "we like people reacting to our channel and being monetized" to copyright striking is telling. Even if this gets resolved, no one is going to react to their videos and they will fall to irrelevance.
yeah think the last time I actually saw a jubilee video it was back in high school and the last I heard of em it was in relation to that D1 dropout who basically stole all their shit even footage via memory cards that they jacked can't even remember the dude's name what I do recall is that the main dude was being beaten like a red headed step-child of a rented mule while his "homies" were stealing shit like and the funniest part the dude doing the beating was just a normal as cameraman not about that gang shit whatsoever and he had to be pistol whipped twice before letting go of his chew toy but otherwise the channels a nothing no name channel as in you don't even bother learning their names cause you barely even watched like 5 minutes of their videos like pretty certain buzzfeed has a bigger following and that's just sad cause tbh I think jubilee has been around longer
_I hate corperations and youtube because they are some of the greediest and pettiest people in the world. Imagine being a millionaire and copystriking other smaller youtubers because you can't take critisism. It's the most trivial and petty shit in the world. It only shows you that these people think they are above all of everyone._
_If I had 8.6 Million subscribers I would let anyone talk shit about me and critisise my content, how would it effect me? It wouldn't because I'm rich bitch!_
Imagine having your whole week ruined because two CZcamsrs reacted and gave a negative response to the video that you edited but say you like to watch them. Like what the hell??? Pathetic.
Not gonna say negative criticism never bothers me. Then again, I can’t remember ever retaliating against anyone who made me feel bad. I don’t so much as downvote or dislike negative comments under something I’ve posted. Far as I remember. Maybe I have once or twice.
Why is your reaction so strong about this? It makes less sense than the comment you think didn't. Anything created feels shitty to be bashed. Everyone is different and not everyone can take criticism on the chin. It's really not pathetic at all.
I don't understand how YT let's Sniperwolf run rampant with her reaction videos but then deletes other channels for less. At this point who even understands tos anymore. So unfair.
You clearly have no idea how any of this works. The whole system is run by the people who file the claims, not CZcams. CZcams barely even checks strikes unless they get pushback on Twitter. It's always been this way. It's not favoritism for any personal creator It's favoritism to the copyright striker.
If you’re gonna have ridiculous videos about divisive topics, you’re going to have videos made about you. How dumb to get butt hurt over this. Also, all videos I’ve seen have been very transformative.
wait till you find out about the dude who rates how fuckable various foods are while actually whipping his schmeat out and going to pound town dude's even pounded some pound cake before and if I recall he's monetized meaning YT is paying him to get seggsy with food and if I recall correctly his channels also not age restricted but then again I also watched spider-man no way home here on youtube via an asian channel and honestly they only did the zoom in thing like 10 times and they usually put them in the night time or non vital parts of the film like honestly YT is more of a joke then a christian OF thot saying the only men inside them is jesus and god
Brandon said "I worked so hard on that video and they(aba n preach) were so harsh🥹" as if influencers, singers and actors dont put all their energy into their work and still have their work criticised by masses. Bro thinks he can be the main character without facing the challenges that come with it. Like grow a backbone if you're making and putting content online because not everybody's going to like you. I dont want to make it a political thing but he's the biggest example of a liberal snowflake.
Calling it now, either Jubilee does a complete 180 and looks scummy or they hold strong and have their business collapse. My money is on the former, but….
The fact that the CEO is ok with the reactions and the other "employees" still go and say it's bad tells a lot about company workers thinking they are the owners of the business and want to do what they want in big tech companies nowadays.
Brandon said "I worked so hard for that video and they(aba n preach) were so harsh🥹" as if influencers, singers and actors don't put their all into their work and still have their work criticised by masses. Bro thinks he can be the main character without facing the challenges that come with it. Like grow a backbone if you're making and putting content online because not everybody's going to like you. I dont want to make it a political thing but he's the biggest example of a liberal snowflake.
@@skittles1975 Being soft or hypocritical is not exclusive to any political affiliation. I can guarantee you some conservatives out there have copyright struck people unfairly because they couldn't take criticism. Both Adin Ross and Fresh & Fit (who also did it to Aba & Preach specifically) have done this.
I don’t think jubilee realise barely anyone watches there channel, I only know about them bc most ppl enjoy watching ppl react to them, let them fade into irrelevancy.
@@andrewflick9911 this argument may suck bc I did not convey it properly, but it is wrong to strike ppls channels like this bc this is some ppls livelihood.
I don't know if it's just me, but I've never watched one of these videos on my own. It's always been watching a commentary CZcamsr reacting to them. The reactions usually elevate videos like this.
Fuck it, us as a community should start mass reporting jubilee for false information because that’s what they always pedal EDIT: like Arthur Shelby said: “I’m Old Testament” so I’m a strongly-believer in “an eye for an eye”
@@annienunyabiz6627 It all depends on individual judges. I believe they're Canadian, too, which means the precedent set in that case doesn't exactly map to theirs. Canada still has fair use doctrine, though, so it should be fine.
They probably will now since they might also get damages because of precedent. The issue is youtube is stupid and slow and even if they win the channel might be gone so long it can't be recovered and they'll have to start again.
Why? Anus & Reach should take the actual content creator to court for stealing their content? What content have these 2 thieves created on their own? They have made millions from off the backs of others hard work that they have put in time, money, and resources into their content for their viewers. If anything these "reaction" videos need to pay 75% of their profits to the original content creator. These individuals aren't asking permission or anything.
They even claim/strike youtubers who react and add onto the videos they were featured on. For example, Blaire White didn't even play the whole video she was in, she just added her side of the story of poor editing and bias. She got claimed even though it was 100% fair use. They seem to claim or strike the people who disagree with them. The CZcams copyright system is so fucked up.
The fact is, it doesn't MATTER if new Jubilee manangement or whatever doesn't LIKE people reacting. If it falls under FAIR USE, then it's legal and allowed. End of discussion. This company may not like what someone has to say, but they shouldn't be able to strike it or even demonetize it, as it does fall under fair use parameters. So basically they need to suck it up, or stop making public content altogether. I know some people don't like react/commentary channels, but what is allowed is allowed and it doesn't matter how anyone 'feels' about it.
Exactly 💯, if you choose to post on a public platform than be open to be reviewed and criticized. This is a complete 180 from whaf they said they were fine with reactions before which is why people kept doing it but to turn around now and flag the videos because now its become inconvenient???? That shit is nasty and manipulative and to try to take away peoples platforms for something you allowed and gave them permission to do is stupid. Any youtuber who takes these clowns to court will win immediately they have no case or defense
I love how y’all Aba stans keep coming from the lens of “what it should be” instead of going by “what is”. The reality is they used their content to talk down on them as they did F&F. This is what y’all enjoy now enjoy the consequences 😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡 just like how y’all tell F&F to take accountability now Aba can do the same.
@@hiddensweatshirt4836 No it’s fair use if it’s proper commentary that is transformative, only if you don’t really add much is it not going to count, so just to say you don’t get to decide when fair use exist or not, it exist, end of story.
“I don’t like when when other channels react to our videos” is a statement about feelings, not necessarily the law or whether reactors are good for views or anything else besides feelings. Nothing more than feelings.
The fact that after all these years, CZcams still favors copyright claimers no matter how little or non-existent the evidence is, is literally pathetic. Disgusting. We're going to give ANYONE the power to take down a channel from falsely copyrighting them within 5 days? And the victim has to PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE? The people in CZcams have never been intelligent, obviously... but I thought this kind of issue would be resolved, idk, 6 years ago when it started? Maybe? Absolutely ridiculous.
Jubilee better not even think that using LDS as a scapegoat is going to save them. Jubilee hired LDS and so are responsible for what the entity they hired does on their behalf.
Jubilee shot themselves in the foot. Being a channel that likes to foster discourse through discussions and debates, blatently shooting down other channels completely kills their message or goal for the channel. No matter the outcome, this might be the single nail in the coffin to kill the channel,
Jubilee forgot they got only attention by reaction from people like pewds and cody ko and they told it themselves. They would be nothing if it weren't for these commentary channels.
@@HavianEla rumble is better in my opinion, your better off there, there's more freedom over there, a youtube channel I watch, his channel is BBT Network kept on getting his videos removed because some of his stuff is considered cyperbullying, even though he's telling the truth on certain things, he ended up having to make multiple channels and post some videos on rumble, and put links to his rumble videos on different videos on youtube
Why do you think some big CZcams names moved over to Rumble they saw the writing on the wall a long time ago Aba and Preach should just delete the videos and move on being prideful won't do them any good
@@cebolenkosingcobo5122 CZcams has a LOT of problems, but what keeps people around is the fact that you will earn a lot more money on CZcams than anywhere else along with the most exposure bc CZcams works with Google and many search engines copy from Google. So searching things will push CZcams over anything else. CZcams has an ad problem, searching problem, demonetization problem, political bias, creator bias, ToS and rules problem as they change them all the time and then selectively target creators based on videos they've made years ago. The problem with Rumble is it cant compete with the amount of money CZcams can give to its creators, and it cant compete with the amount of exposure CZcams gives, and it has a trafficking problem where the site will have issues when a bunch of people are watching a live show at once.
They have done collabs with people like Cody Ko so I’d love to see if they end up striking him too or if they only striking certain people they may not like
exactly!!! i usually like to watch original videos but with jubilee its so intentionally geared towards a certain narrative and being diverse and inclusive that it makes it so freaking frustrating to watch, that the ONLY way i watch it is if i see someone pick it apart like i do. i need the shared opinion, otherwise i feel like going crazy watching the obvious pandering in the videos. they seriously get some of the most uncommon breeds of people on their videos that are a minority of the population in real life. there is SO much bias intentionally put in their videos.
I feel like the guy who edits the videos has a bias, and that bias always gets trashed in the comments or in other videos. I don't think anyone is criticizing the editing....
I received a copystrike because I showed a screenshot of someone's channel. I tried to contact them via email but they posted in their youtube posts (as a way of exposing my details). There was just no way I would expose my full details and address, just for a chance of getting that strike down. I just stopped working on that channel entirely.
Audio Yup, looks like it's all cleared up with the panning issue. Whatever you did worked. Thanks a bunch, the viewing experience is much better now. Cheers
Man first watcher now jubilee, I personally never liked either channel, it just felt like both channels had greed, turns out I was right to think that. Greed really kills good projects, good products, great CZcams channels, good companies, everything. Greed kills anything that has humble beginnings.
Thank you for covering this, I hope Charlie and others see to make content about it too. This is one of my favorite channels and for this to happen unexpectedly is something to definitely bring attention to
I've never even seen one of their videos from their channel, I've always seen them through other CZcamsrs. This will definitely kill all of their work if they continue to go through with stuff like this.
Someone should remind them that abusing the copyright strike system is grounds for their channels being deleted as well. With all the examples of this going poorly for those that try it I’m surprised they went ahead with this.
This stuff is why I haven't uploaded videos in years, it's hard to have the drive to do so with these groups running around striking everybody in sight.
If they strike channels that reuploaded their videos in full or close to full, I say all the power to them. If they strike channels that only uses clips from their videos and not the entire thing than fuk em'.
Ok. So the content falls under fair use, and the CEO of Jubilee is on record saying he doesn't mind the content. Further more, Jubliee isn't being harmed by reaction videos, they're being helped. How does Jubilee expect to win in court? It sounds like a long shot. Edit- 8:47 It they sound like they're going after people they don't think have great lawyers.
Their most recent video is nothing but Abe and Preach support in the comments section. They are going to lose so many subscribers and I'm just kicking back with a bowl of popcorn to watch this train wreck.
Yeah, what Jubilee is doing is pretty stupid ngl When i first heard about it, i immediately commented on Omni's channel in regards to this situation soo he can cover up on this topic Lad instead just deleted the comment... Pretty disappointed by him. Great you covered up on this topic Pegasus. Hopefully more jump in and give their say on this and force jubilee to reverse their decision.
That h3 case was the best thing that happened for youtube creators who do commentary videos. Had that lawsuit went south for them it would've made things really bad round "these here parts".
The only reason I even know of @jubilee, is because of commentator videos. And after watching the commentator go over them, it made me go and search out their content to watch it at the Jubilee channel on my own. But, if I hear that a channel like Jubilee is doing bad copyright strikes over fair use content, then I will be done watching them.
13:01- Jubilee ruined their reputation on their own, they didn't need Aba and Preach to do that for them. 20:56- That's beautiful, I love that.🥰🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
I won't be surprised that the two that either said someone or strongly agree may have gone to their MCN and snitched on all these channels and gave them these copyright strikes.
Faire use is for derivatives products which doesn’t negatively impact the original. On a financial and branding level. XD , it’s just how the law is. It’s such a complicated thing that even lawyers ( good ones) tells you that only a judge really have the final say so.
for a youngster mate your one of the random channels youtube sent my way, n now for most part if u or abba n preach pop up bout only 2 channels i always click on, 2 channels with people with common sense, thanks for content on this ever shrinking site of worth while stuff to watch
I would not of heard of Jubilee if it wasn’t for the reaction channels on jubilee. And when I wanted to get full contacts of the conversations that The reacted to, I would go to Jubilee’s channel and watch the videos, but now I’m going to make a considered effort to go to their channel and unsubscribe from their channels and make sure I forget all about that, they’re shooting themselves in a foot
bruh... I RESPECT YOUR RESPECT AND LOVE FOR THE GAME, that being said...play it and WIN, take em to court, make an episode/ content from it, and make sure you come out with PROFIT. That's a decent scenario to be in as a YOUNG CAPABLE WARRIOR. ID TALL ABA AND PREACH TO GO TO COURT.
These two remind me so much of Jay and Silent Bob. Dude on the left is in a constant pout face and hardly says anything. Love these guys and I hardly know them.
I love how it says "provoke understanding" at the beginning of the video. Provoke somebody to see things your way which is an understanding? No wonder they're so touchy about any kind of discourse. Provoke understanding = we will force you to see things our way until you understand it.
I think somewhere downline someone in Jubilee has gotten really butt hurt over the reactions videos and forgotten that the Jubilee CEO said was cool with other channels to monetize their videos
The day they went after aba and preach 3 years ago was the day I unsubscribe jubilee. I couldn't believe at the time jubilee calling other haters who give opinion on their videos and they are the one to be doing the same hater move to other opinion also.
💀😭woulda never heard of them if it wasn’t for CZcamsrs like agent you and everybody else but them if they striking ppl now fr glad ain never watch them outside of reactions
To be honest I actually unsubbed from Aba and Preach like a year ago BECAUSE of the jubilee stuff cluttering my feed. It doesn't sound like they're gonna be reacting to that crap anymore, so I might go resub when this video is over.
You can lowkey always tell Preach was never into doing those vids in the first place. But I respect Aba for standing tall on business bc he has a point that it sets a bad precedent for the future if they take this lying down.
No matter how popular a channel is, not everyone will know until you see some one you follow talk about them ,I didn't even know about jubelee recently.😅
CZcams unsubscribed me from my own second channel. Also CZcams is inturepting or slowing down peoples use of CZcams if you use a VPN to "punish" or make you turn it off. I contacted CZcams to see whats was going on and they said " we are looking into this" for 3 weeks
UPDATE: jubilee CEO contacted Aba N Preach, and they resolved the strikes - czcams.com/video/XYNCtXDZkqM/video.html
TLDR - they striked them because,
- they felt like some ppl were stealing their content by reacting to it (but it was obviously fair use)
- they need money to produce videos and they were having trouble funding stuff? so they thought its cause of the reactions taking away money/views from them... makes very little sense
- basically, they messed up, and now they resolved it
reaction videos using the hole original video is not fair use, if they cut out most of the original video and only keep bare minimum of scenes needed for what they wanna talk about, it is but from what i can see of their videos they do not this keeping 100% of the original video in there, jubilee is 100% in their legel right to take down those videos, Also it sound jubilee is not doing copyright take downs (AKA just giving them a strike right away) but rather are sending them takedown notices so that they can remove the offending videos before they get a strike, you do not have to do this and it shows a good faith effort by jubilee to try and handle this nicely.
Ok so you wright a book, you spend a years worth of work and money (living expenses and so on) doing this and release it to the public, i copy your entire book but add my nores about it in my copy, making a full copy, with extra notes from me Mr important person. Do you see the sense now in how its stealing their veiws and thereby money.
@@valdemartomlinson From what I know about fair use. Its okay to use 100% of the video if you make commentaries to it. Adding values to it. Its been done for years now. And nope what they do is fair use. If its not then a lot of reaction content creators will get shutdown years ago. An exception to it is reacting to things that got payed like films, anime, concerts, etc. Showing the contents on steeam or videos warrant copyright strike unless its like 5 seconds of clips
@@Einz913 Copyright laws also protect stuff aired for free on ad supported services, like CZcams.
Reactors get shut down all the time but here is the cleaver trick they use for you to not notice it... They upload 15 videos a day (not litteraly)
And no its not ok to use 100% of the work, any an all copyright suit that would go to court where they used 100% (Vines and other super short content would maybe be allowed as it has never see a court of law as far as i know) of the OG work unaltered (Altered being a parody song as an example) they would lose, it will properly never go to court it cost alot of money, which is why reaction content thrives so much even though its fully not legally protected, it not fair use its theft.
While my tone might have been a little hostile here it is not at you but rather the lies reactors have feed you and so many others over the years to protect themselves from their horrible practices of stealing other peoples hard work to enrich themselves
Also little note i forgot to fully explain, if you copyright strike someone and they then dispute it you need to take them to court before it can be fully resolved, So reactor upload your video, you strike them, they dispute it, you now gotta eaither.
Take them to court spending hundreds of thousands in legal fees.
Or just let them steal your video losing like 5 bucks a month in lost revenure.
Or id claim their video taking all the money or some of the money for yourself. (This one is only really done by big companies as getting your stuff into the content id is not easy for a normal person(from what i hear))
@valdemartomlinson i mever knew reaction content go that far. But I do know that some content creators will edited it out the video too. Like uncensored version in Patreon or stuff. I guess context must be known too. Like for example I think Aba had a problem since the company consent for video used as a reaction
The fact that Jubilee's CEO went from saying "we like people reacting to our channel and being monetized" to copyright striking is telling. Even if this gets resolved, no one is going to react to their videos and they will fall to irrelevance.
Look at the Finebros.
Look at how well that went for them
exactly. nobody actually watches their content. i'd much rather watch others react to it otherwise i'd just be losing braincells
yeah think the last time I actually saw a jubilee video it was back in high school and the last I heard of em it was in relation to that D1 dropout who basically stole all their shit even footage via memory cards that they jacked can't even remember the dude's name what I do recall is that the main dude was being beaten like a red headed step-child of a rented mule while his "homies" were stealing shit like and the funniest part the dude doing the beating was just a normal as cameraman not about that gang shit whatsoever and he had to be pistol whipped twice before letting go of his chew toy but otherwise the channels a nothing no name channel as in you don't even bother learning their names cause you barely even watched like 5 minutes of their videos like pretty certain buzzfeed has a bigger following and that's just sad cause tbh I think jubilee has been around longer
_I hate corperations and youtube because they are some of the greediest and pettiest people in the world. Imagine being a millionaire and copystriking other smaller youtubers because you can't take critisism. It's the most trivial and petty shit in the world. It only shows you that these people think they are above all of everyone._
_If I had 8.6 Million subscribers I would let anyone talk shit about me and critisise my content, how would it effect me? It wouldn't because I'm rich bitch!_
Imagine having your whole week ruined because two CZcamsrs reacted and gave a negative response to the video that you edited but say you like to watch them. Like what the hell??? Pathetic.
The weird part is he's the editor. They aren't criticizing the quality of the video but the ideas which he had no part in. Like why are you so hurt?
Not gonna say negative criticism never bothers me. Then again, I can’t remember ever retaliating against anyone who made me feel bad. I don’t so much as downvote or dislike negative comments under something I’ve posted. Far as I remember. Maybe I have once or twice.
They think themselves of creatives truly and having your art bashed never feels good
It's funny they can't see beyond themselves, living in a box is hilarious.
Why is your reaction so strong about this? It makes less sense than the comment you think didn't. Anything created feels shitty to be bashed. Everyone is different and not everyone can take criticism on the chin. It's really not pathetic at all.
I don't understand how YT let's Sniperwolf run rampant with her reaction videos but then deletes other channels for less. At this point who even understands tos anymore. So unfair.
I'll give you a hint it involves deepthroating a popsicle but it's not a popsicle.
Favoritism, that’s why.
Beauty privilege. It's because she is hot
You clearly have no idea how any of this works. The whole system is run by the people who file the claims, not CZcams. CZcams barely even checks strikes unless they get pushback on Twitter. It's always been this way. It's not favoritism for any personal creator It's favoritism to the copyright striker.
@@gxdbig00 CZcams called Ssniperwolf the, and I'm paraphrasing here, creator of their dreams. They clearly have a bias for her.
If you’re gonna have ridiculous videos about divisive topics, you’re going to have videos made about you. How dumb to get butt hurt over this. Also, all videos I’ve seen have been very transformative.
Yup, jubilee are a bunch of overly sensitive lefty wimps.
They're far-left media, they're mad that the people in the center and right-wing people are using their content to expose the far left lol
wait till you find out about the dude who rates how fuckable various foods are while actually whipping his schmeat out and going to pound town dude's even pounded some pound cake before and if I recall he's monetized meaning YT is paying him to get seggsy with food and if I recall correctly his channels also not age restricted but then again I also watched spider-man no way home here on youtube via an asian channel and honestly they only did the zoom in thing like 10 times and they usually put them in the night time or non vital parts of the film like honestly YT is more of a joke then a christian OF thot saying the only men inside them is jesus and god
Brandon said "I worked so hard on that video and they(aba n preach) were so harsh🥹" as if influencers, singers and actors dont put all their energy into their work and still have their work criticised by masses. Bro thinks he can be the main character without facing the challenges that come with it. Like grow a backbone if you're making and putting content online because not everybody's going to like you. I dont want to make it a political thing but he's the biggest example of a liberal snowflake.
You can't expect better from people with left-leaning political views.
Calling it now, either Jubilee does a complete 180 and looks scummy or they hold strong and have their business collapse. My money is on the former, but….
Aq
I’m calling it. Aba gets his channel terminated by the end of week. Karma for trying his hardest to cancel F&F and get them terminated
@@Otsutsuki_King0ikyfl 🤦🏿♂️
@@AJNC_ it's a burner account. They commented on my comment on the last Jubilee video lolol
Either way they've already sh]t in their own bed. Cant undo the damage now
How many years it has gone now and still CZcams chooses to be ignorant about their copyright system. Absolute sad man
absolute crooks.
"Aye-ba" 😭
It hurts every time
Lmao
thank you it was annoying me too
😂😂😂..... Say it with me Ahhhh-bah
@@UnderWhereVPL It's called: "SMOKING THAT FNF PACK!" Get it right!
Its aa-ba not A-ba. Like a silent yell.
OMG thank you! That was grating my last nerve! 😂
i just posted this comment too!! was driving me crazy for some reason lol
also you may want to edit your comment as - *ab-ba not a-ba* lol
cheers 🍻
Lol was just about to post the same. A little cringe every time he said it like that.
yea but they might not have known, a silly mistake. but everytime pegasus said it felt like tinnitus lol
Bro was saying Eiba
The fact that the CEO is ok with the reactions and the other "employees" still go and say it's bad tells a lot about company workers thinking they are the owners of the business and want to do what they want in big tech companies nowadays.
Brandon said "I worked so hard for that video and they(aba n preach) were so harsh🥹" as if influencers, singers and actors don't put their all into their work and still have their work criticised by masses. Bro thinks he can be the main character without facing the challenges that come with it. Like grow a backbone if you're making and putting content online because not everybody's going to like you. I dont want to make it a political thing but he's the biggest example of a liberal snowflake.
@@skittles1975 "I don't want to make it a political thing-"
**Makes it political**
@@ZeroshikiWhich is why I put a warning prior. my point still stands firmer than his backbone
@@skittles1975 Being soft or hypocritical is not exclusive to any political affiliation. I can guarantee you some conservatives out there have copyright struck people unfairly because they couldn't take criticism. Both Adin Ross and Fresh & Fit (who also did it to Aba & Preach specifically) have done this.
@Zeroshiki fym Adin Ross is conservative?
I don’t think jubilee realise barely anyone watches there channel, I only know about them bc most ppl enjoy watching ppl react to them, let them fade into irrelevancy.
their*
@@funkybuddhaInityour mother
But that’s not true though. They get a lot of views
lol do you think anyone would watch reaction channels if they werent reacting to anything? this argument sucks
@@andrewflick9911 this argument may suck bc I did not convey it properly, but it is wrong to strike ppls channels like this bc this is some ppls livelihood.
I don't know if it's just me, but I've never watched one of these videos on my own. It's always been watching a commentary CZcamsr reacting to them. The reactions usually elevate videos like this.
sameeee
Maybe thats why they did it, pettiness 😂
Fuck it, us as a community should start mass reporting jubilee for false information because that’s what they always pedal
EDIT: like Arthur Shelby said: “I’m Old Testament” so I’m a strongly-believer in “an eye for an eye”
Yees
@@JoshuaBoehmer “an eye for an eye”
Can I get a "Hell yeah brother"
Tell me how....
I am game.
Filing a report does nothing. It’s only an illusion to make you feel like you are doing something.
Aba N Preach should take these numbskulls to court. I imagine there's a lot of fans who would crowd-fund cases like this.
It'd be a pretty easy win, too. H3H3 already set the precedent on reactions being fair use.
@@annienunyabiz6627 It all depends on individual judges. I believe they're Canadian, too, which means the precedent set in that case doesn't exactly map to theirs. Canada still has fair use doctrine, though, so it should be fine.
@@annienunyabiz6627 sargon of akkad did too with his case.
They probably will now since they might also get damages because of precedent. The issue is youtube is stupid and slow and even if they win the channel might be gone so long it can't be recovered and they'll have to start again.
Why? Anus & Reach should take the actual content creator to court for stealing their content?
What content have these 2 thieves created on their own? They have made millions from off the backs of others hard work that they have put in time, money, and resources into their content for their viewers.
If anything these "reaction" videos need to pay 75% of their profits to the original content creator. These individuals aren't asking permission or anything.
They even claim/strike youtubers who react and add onto the videos they were featured on. For example, Blaire White didn't even play the whole video she was in, she just added her side of the story of poor editing and bias. She got claimed even though it was 100% fair use. They seem to claim or strike the people who disagree with them. The CZcams copyright system is so fucked up.
It’s the illusion of free speech. They’ll censor you, copystrike you, or edit it to make you look worse. Vile snakes.
You can tell preach wants to just get rid of the videos he's pissed
He pisses videos? I would sell my videos to scientists if I were able to piss videos.
The fact is, it doesn't MATTER if new Jubilee manangement or whatever doesn't LIKE people reacting. If it falls under FAIR USE, then it's legal and allowed. End of discussion. This company may not like what someone has to say, but they shouldn't be able to strike it or even demonetize it, as it does fall under fair use parameters. So basically they need to suck it up, or stop making public content altogether. I know some people don't like react/commentary channels, but what is allowed is allowed and it doesn't matter how anyone 'feels' about it.
This!
Exactly 💯, if you choose to post on a public platform than be open to be reviewed and criticized. This is a complete 180 from whaf they said they were fine with reactions before which is why people kept doing it but to turn around now and flag the videos because now its become inconvenient???? That shit is nasty and manipulative and to try to take away peoples platforms for something you allowed and gave them permission to do is stupid. Any youtuber who takes these clowns to court will win immediately they have no case or defense
I love how y’all Aba stans keep coming from the lens of “what it should be” instead of going by “what is”. The reality is they used their content to talk down on them as they did F&F. This is what y’all enjoy now enjoy the consequences 😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡 just like how y’all tell F&F to take accountability now Aba can do the same.
Reaction content, in and of itself isn’t fair use….. your point is immediately contradictory
@@hiddensweatshirt4836 No it’s fair use if it’s proper commentary that is transformative, only if you don’t really add much is it not going to count, so just to say you don’t get to decide when fair use exist or not, it exist, end of story.
“I don’t like when when other channels react to our videos” is a statement about feelings, not necessarily the law or whether reactors are good for views or anything else besides feelings. Nothing more than feelings.
Oh well. It’s their channel.
Oh boy, lemme just grab some popcorn real quick, who want some ?
I'll like mine with extra butter pls.
I'd like some, do you want to trade it for some milkshake?
No butter please. Appreciate you my guy.
@@hampter3819 fine by me, you can have some
I'm good, but I have beer!
Eyba and preach is wild
who cares
@@IWantMyHortTruck me
@@IWantMyHortTruck apparently YOU care enough to comment.
@@peak6829 it doesn't change the quality of their content is my point
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The fact that after all these years, CZcams still favors copyright claimers no matter how little or non-existent the evidence is, is literally pathetic. Disgusting.
We're going to give ANYONE the power to take down a channel from falsely copyrighting them within 5 days? And the victim has to PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE? The people in CZcams have never been intelligent, obviously... but I thought this kind of issue would be resolved, idk, 6 years ago when it started? Maybe? Absolutely ridiculous.
Jubilee better not even think that using LDS as a scapegoat is going to save them. Jubilee hired LDS and so are responsible for what the entity they hired does on their behalf.
Jubilee shot themselves in the foot. Being a channel that likes to foster discourse through discussions and debates, blatently shooting down other channels completely kills their message or goal for the channel. No matter the outcome, this might be the single nail in the coffin to kill the channel,
Jubilee is Buzzfeed.
The CEO is a smart dude. He knows that reactions only bring in more views.
Lol that's not smart if you haven't seen the many people who've got called out for copy striking. A lot of them fell off afterwards 😂
Jubilee forgot they got only attention by reaction from people like pewds and cody ko and they told it themselves. They would be nothing if it weren't for these commentary channels.
Jubilee should be greatful instead... If it wasn't for those youtubers reacting to their videos, I wouldn't even know who they are
If it wasn't for those channels, reaction channels wouldn't have content.
“Judgemental for no reason”
Does she even know what a reaction is?
Right. 🤦♂️
At this point, I don't have any hope for this platform
F*** youtube
capitalistic platform. biggest example of Merica
That's what I've been saying. They play favorites and support toxic people.
I wish someone would build a better platform. Tried Rumble, but it functions SO different.
@@HavianEla rumble is better in my opinion, your better off there, there's more freedom over there, a youtube channel I watch, his channel is BBT Network kept on getting his videos removed because some of his stuff is considered cyperbullying, even though he's telling the truth on certain things, he ended up having to make multiple channels and post some videos on rumble, and put links to his rumble videos on different videos on youtube
CZcams NEEDS to fix their system.
They should fix it after Aba is gone
@@Otsutsuki_King0Jubilee’s burner
Why do you think some big CZcams names moved over to Rumble they saw the writing on the wall a long time ago Aba and Preach should just delete the videos and move on being prideful won't do them any good
@@cebolenkosingcobo5122 CZcams has a LOT of problems, but what keeps people around is the fact that you will earn a lot more money on CZcams than anywhere else along with the most exposure bc CZcams works with Google and many search engines copy from Google. So searching things will push CZcams over anything else.
CZcams has an ad problem, searching problem, demonetization problem, political bias, creator bias, ToS and rules problem as they change them all the time and then selectively target creators based on videos they've made years ago.
The problem with Rumble is it cant compete with the amount of money CZcams can give to its creators, and it cant compete with the amount of exposure CZcams gives, and it has a trafficking problem where the site will have issues when a bunch of people are watching a live show at once.
They have done collabs with people like Cody Ko so I’d love to see if they end up striking him too or if they only striking certain people they may not like
Exactly what I said. Like it makes sense for them to strike all those who have reacted unless they are being shady.
It's because the people they hire for the videos are so insufferable, we can only take them in reaction format and they can't cope with that
exactly!!! i usually like to watch original videos but with jubilee its so intentionally geared towards a certain narrative and being diverse and inclusive that it makes it so freaking frustrating to watch, that the ONLY way i watch it is if i see someone pick it apart like i do. i need the shared opinion, otherwise i feel like going crazy watching the obvious pandering in the videos.
they seriously get some of the most uncommon breeds of people on their videos that are a minority of the population in real life.
there is SO much bias intentionally put in their videos.
I feel like the guy who edits the videos has a bias, and that bias always gets trashed in the comments or in other videos. I don't think anyone is criticizing the editing....
I received a copystrike because I showed a screenshot of someone's channel.
I tried to contact them via email but they posted in their youtube posts (as a way of exposing my details).
There was just no way I would expose my full details and address, just for a chance of getting that strike down.
I just stopped working on that channel entirely.
what else happened. details please
Ah -Ba fam 😂😂😂 he’s said his own name 100 of times 😂🤣😭all jokes though bro good job bringing this power abuse to light
Right finally someone said it
It’s Aba like ‘Ah-ba’ -not like ‘Ada’, Pegasus
like abba ?
@@elfish7766 almost! More aa than ah, really! Love me some ABBA though
@@anaalicia5029"money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world"🗣️🔥🔥
@@FleshWizard69420 yes!!
Absolutely unacceptable, Pegasus. Unsubscribed, reported, swatted, doxxed 😔😔😔😔
Commenting for the algorithm. This video needs to be seen by more people!
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Yup, looks like it's all cleared up with the panning issue. Whatever you did worked. Thanks a bunch, the viewing experience is much better now. Cheers
thanks!
I’m never watching a Jubilee video again
It’s like, destroy your reputation online how to: copyright-strike the people giving you relevance.
I have no idea who you are but this is a great take, subscribed.
Same
Sounds like something that already happened with both Ishowspeed and Aidan Ross abusing the shit out of the copyright system with thumb media
Man first watcher now jubilee, I personally never liked either channel, it just felt like both channels had greed, turns out I was right to think that. Greed really kills good projects, good products, great CZcams channels, good companies, everything. Greed kills anything that has humble beginnings.
Thank you for covering this, I hope Charlie and others see to make content about it too. This is one of my favorite channels and for this to happen unexpectedly is something to definitely bring attention to
A huge chunk of Jubilee's growth is from reaction content. The number of comments on their new video concerning the issue is boggling
Jason Y. Lee the CEO is bff's with Steven Lim the CEO of Watcher. What a small world😂
I've never even seen one of their videos from their channel, I've always seen them through other CZcamsrs. This will definitely kill all of their work if they continue to go through with stuff like this.
Someone should remind them that abusing the copyright strike system is grounds for their channels being deleted as well.
With all the examples of this going poorly for those that try it I’m surprised they went ahead with this.
I clicked thinking this was Abba and Preach’s channel 😂 Pegasus’s voice caught me sooo off guard
“You got about one more day before about 10 creators blow this into the stratosphere!”😅😅😅😅😅😅
This stuff is why I haven't uploaded videos in years, it's hard to have the drive to do so with these groups running around striking everybody in sight.
So it is clear that John holds power in jubilee.
Liked an subscribed. Good on you for backing A&P
00:47 ?? What did you call Aba? Lol that's is hilarious 😂
If they strike channels that reuploaded their videos in full or close to full, I say all the power to them. If they strike channels that only uses clips from their videos and not the entire thing than fuk em'.
Kind of an oof when you pronounce Aba's name wrong, then hear multiple other people saying it correctly, and then still go "Ayy-ba"
Agreed
who cares? get off his 🥩
Ok. So the content falls under fair use, and the CEO of Jubilee is on record saying he doesn't mind the content. Further more, Jubliee isn't being harmed by reaction videos, they're being helped. How does Jubilee expect to win in court? It sounds like a long shot.
Edit- 8:47 It they sound like they're going after people they don't think have great lawyers.
Their most recent video is nothing but Abe and Preach support in the comments section. They are going to lose so many subscribers and I'm just kicking back with a bowl of popcorn to watch this train wreck.
This is a great overview
This is not good to end well for them. RIP new people in charge who thought this was a good idea.
I love how slow you talk cuz i watch your vids in 2x speed so its really understandable and i get to save time
Yeah, what Jubilee is doing is pretty stupid ngl
When i first heard about it, i immediately commented on Omni's channel in regards to this situation soo he can cover up on this topic
Lad instead just deleted the comment...
Pretty disappointed by him.
Great you covered up on this topic Pegasus. Hopefully more jump in and give their say on this and force jubilee to reverse their decision.
That h3 case was the best thing that happened for youtube creators who do commentary videos. Had that lawsuit went south for them it would've made things really bad round "these here parts".
The only reason I even know of @jubilee, is because of commentator videos. And after watching the commentator go over them, it made me go and search out their content to watch it at the Jubilee channel on my own. But, if I hear that a channel like Jubilee is doing bad copyright strikes over fair use content, then I will be done watching them.
What is this, Fine Bros part 2? lol
i definitely steer clear of that side of CZcams
They should have a second appeal.
Or they can find their email and reach out.
Jubilee being Watcher
If this man doesn't stop butchering Aba and Preach name
13:01- Jubilee ruined their reputation on their own, they didn't need Aba and Preach to do that for them.
20:56- That's beautiful, I love that.🥰🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
We need a few pro bono lawyers who wanna take these cases to make these companies think twice for using copy strikes as threats.
I won't be surprised that the two that either said someone or strongly agree may have gone to their MCN and snitched on all these channels and gave them these copyright strikes.
damn, never thought i’d see aba n preach on the thumbnail of a pegasus video
megasus posted lesgooooooo
I heard that text in Pegasus's voice
Why is he not uploading on his main channel ?
@@nishantsingh7235 he said he is on a break from that channel but i have a feeling he is being careful because of past hacker incident
@@experiencedotaku171 what was the past hacker experiment ?
@@nishantsingh7235 his channel was hacked by someone for a few weeks who pinned virus links in comments and description of latest videos
Faire use is for derivatives products which doesn’t negatively impact the original. On a financial and branding level. XD , it’s just how the law is. It’s such a complicated thing that even lawyers ( good ones) tells you that only a judge really have the final say so.
for a youngster mate your one of the random channels youtube sent my way, n now for most part if u or abba n preach pop up bout only 2 channels i always click on, 2 channels with people with common sense, thanks for content on this ever shrinking site of worth while stuff to watch
Looks like another apology video I can't wait
I would not of heard of Jubilee if it wasn’t for the reaction channels on jubilee. And when I wanted to get full contacts of the conversations that The reacted to, I would go to Jubilee’s channel and watch the videos, but now I’m going to make a considered effort to go to their channel and unsubscribe from their channels and make sure I forget all about that, they’re shooting themselves in a foot
These copyright trolls need to be known and dealt with!
bruh... I RESPECT YOUR RESPECT AND LOVE FOR THE GAME, that being said...play it and WIN, take em to court, make an episode/ content from it, and make sure you come out with PROFIT. That's a decent scenario to be in as a YOUNG CAPABLE WARRIOR. ID TALL ABA AND PREACH TO GO TO COURT.
Aiba, ayber, a bar. You said it every way but the right way 😅
How many times does this need to happen on this platform?! All CZcams creators need to talk about this now. THIS MUST STOP!
This was a great take. New subscriber!
If this is what they did to a one million subscribers channel, what about the new youtubers that we didn't hear about
These two remind me so much of Jay and Silent Bob. Dude on the left is in a constant pout face and hardly says anything. Love these guys and I hardly know them.
I love how it says "provoke understanding" at the beginning of the video. Provoke somebody to see things your way which is an understanding? No wonder they're so touchy about any kind of discourse.
Provoke understanding = we will force you to see things our way until you understand it.
I think somewhere downline someone in Jubilee has gotten really butt hurt over the reactions videos and forgotten that the Jubilee CEO said was cool with other channels to monetize their videos
As of right now Chud logic and Papa Gut are streaming about it
The day they went after aba and preach 3 years ago was the day I unsubscribe jubilee. I couldn't believe at the time jubilee calling other haters who give opinion on their videos and they are the one to be doing the same hater move to other opinion also.
I never would have thought I would hear Pegasus mention and react to Aba and Preach.
I love how CZcams just sits back
💀😭woulda never heard of them if it wasn’t for CZcamsrs like agent you and everybody else but them if they striking ppl now fr glad ain never watch them outside of reactions
The fact that tried to handle this behind the scenes but were ignored...yeah Jubilee is getting what they deserve!
"Can't just silence criticism because ur feels got hurt" as they delete comments and accounts.
To be honest I actually unsubbed from Aba and Preach like a year ago BECAUSE of the jubilee stuff cluttering my feed. It doesn't sound like they're gonna be reacting to that crap anymore, so I might go resub when this video is over.
You can lowkey always tell Preach was never into doing those vids in the first place. But I respect Aba for standing tall on business bc he has a point that it sets a bad precedent for the future if they take this lying down.
Why don't they ever follow the rules of fair use and NOT strike/take down videos that clearly fall within fair use?
No matter how popular a channel is, not everyone will know until you see some one you follow talk about them ,I didn't even know about jubelee recently.😅
Hughes v Benjamin settled this at the SCOTUS level, setting precedent at the highest court that clips are fair use.
CZcams unsubscribed me from my own second channel. Also CZcams is inturepting or slowing down peoples use of CZcams if you use a VPN to "punish" or make you turn it off. I contacted CZcams to see whats was going on and they said " we are looking into this" for 3 weeks
Surf shark should go for CZcams bc they sell their services here through CZcams a lot and the company being a sponsor would be greatly affected ...
Does anyone else think that LDS Affiliate USA is just going rogue here? This doesn't add up at all.
this is the earliest I've been