Get Some God Damn…
Vložit
- čas přidán 29. 12. 2016
- …Hearing Protection. If you're going to see live music, you should probably be wearing hearing protection, as sustained exposure to loud noise will damage your hearing.
MATT: / unnamedculprit | TOM: / tomscottgo
This video is not sponsored, we are just recommending things we use.
We both use and recommend Alpine MusicSafe earplugs:
amzn.to/2hlOGuU
Moldex Spark Earplugs (relatively comfy cheap foam ones):
amzn.to/2ilrHC7
Medical information about Tinnitus:
www.nhs.uk/conditions/tinnitus...
British Tinnitus Association:
www.tinnitus.org.uk/
Reference from the UK Health And Safety Executive:
Hearing Protection At Work:
www.hse.gov.uk/noise/hearingpr...
Hearing Protection At Events:
www.hse.gov.uk/event-safety/no...
FAQs
What kit do you use?
Short answer: Røde NTG2, Roland R44, Sony RX100ii, GoPro 4/5
The Kit List: • The Kit List: What We ...
What do you use to edit?
Short answer: Adobe Creative Suite.
Editing: Why Game On & Citation Needed Take So Long: • Editing: Why Game On &... - Zábava
I can only apologise about what Tom showed you. Ewww. -- Matt
+Matt and Tom And I should apologise for the curiosity-gap title. That was all me! - Tom
Matt and Tom Slightly clickbaity, but I don't mind
Matt and Tom I have had the musicsafe plugs for some years now, and they are pretty good indeed. funny enough, I need them more in the intermissions when my band is not playing.. and the loud venue music starts playing
Matt and Tom, there is an old musician's trick for dirty earplugs involving ethanol.
You simply drink the ethanol and you don't care in the slightest if the ear plugs are dirty or not. ;-)
oh, and yes, I do wear them during mixing. but I take them out occasionally to hear the real sound (and levels). and I keep a decibel meter running during our gigs
"I once saw Justin Beiber in concert-"
Matt tried to come up with a suitable insult.
"- and you were there."
Matt tries to work out how this betrayal has happened.
as someone who now has tinnitus due to years of playing in bands and ignoring everyone .
DONT IGNORE THIS VIDEO YOU DO NOT WANT IT
Brian +
I mowed yards for 3 years in high school and never wore hearing protection, now I have tinnitus for the rest of my life :/
Brian fellow tinnitus person here, GET EAR PLUGS YOU DUMBFUCKS. I have tinnitus from birth but it’s been made worse by stupid things I’ve done. Like snapping myself with my swim team cap
Try this, Cup your hand over your ear and tap on the soft part of your hand a few times for about 30 seconds. Enjoy the silence you can use it as much as you need since it isn't permanent fix but can be up to 12 hours in my experience
I played a tuba in band class, and the teacher had us sitting in a formation in which the one speaker blasting music into the classroom was right behind my left ear. Like maybe 2 feet away. After one school year of playing tuba with the speaker 2 ft behind my ear, and one summer of ruined hearing that I thankfully eventually recovered from, I started bringing earplugs to band class. Listen to this video, guys. Save your hearing.
I have tinitus, have since I was little, I always wondered why other people seemed confused when I spoke about the 'sound of silence' being a high pitched 'EEEE'.
I remember having similar thoughts as a kid but keeping it to myself incase people thought I was crazy. I currently work in hearing research. It's a funny world :p
N Martindale So thats not only me...?
sadly not :(
For some reason I only sometimes hear a high pitched noise when its silent. I am now for example.
OK upon checking it seems that its normally caused by my headphones (there shouldn't be any sound coming out of them) or having my fingers over my ears. However if it is very quite I do get a slight noise (very quiet). Can pressure near the ears cause these perceived sounds?
Same.
"There are instructions on the packet, if you don't fit them properly, then they're not doing their job properly, and they're not properly protecting you" -- This applies so well to other forms of PPE too.
Tom O'Connor
Did- did you know?
that aged well
Like face masks
Actually I was making a veiled reference to condoms, but yes. Face masks too.
I went to a rock concert last night and ended up crowdsurfing onto the stage (about 4 times) and in the 5 seconds I spent on stage I realised that it was actually quieter on stage than in the mosh pit
Much, you are behind the speakers so the sound isn't directed at you
I've been performing gigs for close to fifteen years now and I've never realized the "The sound will be better with earplugs in because the sound engineer will be wearing them" thing until now. That's a really good point.
I'm working at an Airport, and you really don't know the "oh shit" moment when an aircraft with very, very loud engines is coming towards you, and you can't find your ear defenders. It is painfully loud.
Or when you're beside a Main Battle Tank about to fire. Tinnitus for a week.
afxinfinitee yeah that sounds very painful.
Jet aircraft. The loudest non-explosive thing made by man.
The Garden of Eatin jet engines are still explosive.
Stephen Jay they're not -supposed- to be explosive...
"I'll hit you so hard you'll have to take your earplugs out to piss!" Sounds like a bar threat.
I'm a both a sound engineer and DJ who funnily enough likes to go to live gigs as often as I can. I've used the Alpine plugs for many, many years. They are great buy and I believe have saved my hearing. They don't muffle the sound they just suppress the harmful frequencies. I truly do swear by them and I'm using the same pair I purchased over 12 years ago. It's not worth the risk and you wont be the only one wearing them, so there is no excuse.
i cant imagine caring more about peoples opinion than my ability to hear lmao. as you say just use earplugs theyre not a big deal but tinitus is a HUUUGE deal
As a music student I was the only person on my entire course to ever use earplugs. Everyone thought I was ridiculous for doing so. Half of them now have tinnitus.
Custom moulded ear plugs was by far the best thing I spent part of my student loan on.
Though they don't last forever, you're meant to get new ones every few years as your inner ear does change shape slightly as you age. 10 years later and the ones I got are still usable. Just not as great as a new pair would be.
Out of curiosity, what genre of music were you studying? Even for classical music?
@@Qyver I'd guess it doesn't matter. even with classical music, the instrument is still loud enough. 80dB is a modern vacuum cleaner with 800Watt. any musical number performed by a group is louder. and it's even louder for the person that actually has its ear right next to the instrument.
moulded earplugs are too costly for me atm, so what other brands might you say is good?
@@MeghanaUppala-Flute Hello from 3 years ago. If you watch the video they specifically mention brands of some of the cheaper types as well as helpfully link to them in the description
@@Alex-my6me ah yes! just saw the description, thank you from the present !
;)
Today I learned how to put on earplugs
And that is something You Might Not Have Known.
*In
I had the squishy ones at a gig, when I got the sense to start wearing hearing protection, one time and the motivation (even if it was the 2nd best motivation) to keep wearing them at gigs was how much clearer the music was, rather than white noise above a certain level of intensity. I got the ones like Tom's as a package offer when buying through Ticketmaster online a few years ago. I wore them at a Slayer show in Dublin last year and the sound was amazing. Just as a comparison, I took them out briefly and was met with a wall of white noise, thudding bass drums and a booming rumble of bass guitar. So if people believe their hearing is invincible perhaps the clarity of the vocals and instruments can be used to motivate them to use earplugs.
As a piccolo player, I have to wear professional ear plugs when playing because they're so loud and high pitched, it's bizarre because you can't hear the rest of the orchestra very well but 100% worth it because I've done gigs for years and noticed it going
I only hear the ringing when I think about it. Thanks.
axelasdf Have to agree with this one. Always manage to ignore it until someone mentions tinnitus etc.
I have a very mild case, and it's only at the very highest end, but it is annoying when it's mentioned
2:00 Nice Churchill impression! (For those of you who don't know, Churchill is an insurance company here in the UK. The mascot is a bulldog called Churchill, and the slogan is "Oh, Yes!")
I wish people were told this more often and it was more usual for people to do. It took too many "ear wincing" events and gigs before I realised what damage was being done to my ears... And presumably those I was with as well.
As a member of a metal band, who at the grand old age of 22 suffers tinnitus, I'm in the position to say, don't ignore this 😂
Seriously, don't ignore this!
3:35 "I should point out to our viewer" am I the only one? Somehow I think I'm not.
WindowHero Hello Window Hero, fancy seeing you this far from a DoorMonster video
sorry, as I don't watch the video and only scroll through the comments, I can't actually check out your timestamp.
@@RKBock ?????
@@RKBock Uhh
no its just you, no one else watched it.
7:40 I worked in metalwork for a few months and I was specifically taught how to put earbuds in. They work well for high pitched noises (Which is great for welding, drilling, using an angle grinder, ECT) but it lets the lower frequencies though.
This is good because the alarm (For phone calls and breaks don't worry) is low and loud so we can still hear it.
... that weird moment when you watch two videos in two different channels on the same day and see the same commenter on both videos :D
Edit: It makes sense now, we probably both watched Tom's Language videos which lead to CZcams recommending NativLang for both of us and have been kind of following up with it ever since :D
CZcams's comment algorithm puts slightly higher priority on comments posted by those who watch the same things as you. It's not just a coincidence. (fun fact)
Devin Pohl
very interesting, and makes sense :)
(side effect: It makes you kind of live in a virtual bubble. This same thing happens with Facebook News Feed and even Google Searches!)
+Hassan and I've been linked across and see to be following as well just don't comment much
they work well, if you don't care about the quality of sound that gets through. which you don't if you work in metalwork. there, their only purpose it to cancel out the high frequencies and let through the lower ones.
Only on my third watch of this video did I notice the clever editing when Matt tries to finish his thought: The X's and O were color coded depending on who interrupted him that time. Brilliant.
i watched a good 10 seconds with the sound muted, thinking it was a bad joke...
smithy No, no you didn’t.
That's the most serious Matt I've ever seen. And more goofy than usual Tom as well. But serious Matt is nothing short of ominous!
3:34 "I should point out to our viewer..." - You've got a few more than just one, Tom.
Four?
doing sound for a blues club in chicago i worked at, i was working by the foldback speaker, and one of the musicians dropped the mic right by it and i got full on 100% feedback in my earhole, (until the speaker protector lightbulb blew) i now and basically half deaf in one ear with wicked awful tinnitus.
same club, we were pulling on one night about 115 db at the sound desk, (the club was basically empty and made of concrete) most nights were well over 95 all night 7 nights a week.
so yeah hearing damage, tinnitus you name it.
No one expects The Orifice Inquisition?
The '"The sound you hear is your hearing dying" is from Children of Men :)
I love my ear plugs. Those with the changeable filters are great for every day life, not just as hearing protection. I sometimes put the lowest ones in if I'm going to be somewhere busy like a shopping centre or a train during rush hour. They're great to take the edge off, but you can still understand what people are saying to you.
"Define clean..."
I guess I'm an old fart to complain, but crowds at concerts these days are way too noisy. I used to see 20 or more concerts a year in the 70's and 80's and back then people shut up after a song started. If anyone yelled during a song the crowd would turn on them (gotta love peer pressure). Now they all cheer for 30 seconds at the slightest thing. The bassist takes off his hat, big cheer. The guitarist throws a pic into the audience, big cheer. Good luck actually listening to a guitar solo. That and the loud sound are the main reasons I stopped going to anything bigger than a small club. I've already lost enough of my hearing as it is.
Small clubs aren't really better. I had the closest brush with tinnitus at a tiny club gig. Band was Rolo Tomassi (screaming math metal stuff), ceiling was really low and every surface reflected sound way too well.
strongly depends on the type of music you listen to and the band.
I'm relatively young (25) and only went to two concerts so far.
both from disturbed. Crowds were very respectful and silent. especially at the second concert where the band talked about some very heavy stuff (they talked about depression, suicide, drug abuse, etc.)
Nobody expects the English Orificeition
I've always had ringing in my ears for as long as I can remember. I've never been anywhere loud or listen to any loud music.
I've had tinnitus since a fast dodgeball to the ear in 5th grade, a sonic boom at a blue angels show in 2nd grade, and an exploding tire a few years ago. It's noisy when it isn't.
I'm too used to airhorns in dank videos to be bothered by the one at the end card.
I appreciated the discussion. I've used various types of ear plugs in the military both on the ground and in the air. Infantry and other ground forces used the foamies (or nothing) for decades. Only recently were the reusable ones introduced but they are uncomfortable. When in the cockpit we initially had the foamies (under our helmets) but eventually got the custom molded ones with integrated speakers so the intercom and radio could be heard clearly but the loud engines were muffled. Those type are a godsend. Sadly the changes were instituted later in my career those the constant (and occasionally deafening) tinnitus plus mild hearing loss. Thanks again for the information and entertainment.
I wasn't expecting the air horn and I loved it.
I have tinnitus and the volume of the ringing changes. Usually it is low enough that it doesn't bother me at all, but sometimes it will get so loud it will wake me up at night.
BrotherAlpha aw that is terrible. I can't imagine what that is like.
the best hearing protection I got was when I was in the army I had a set moulded to my ears there amazing you can still hear really well but they some how blocks the sounds that hurt your hearing
They use some of the expensive headphones in motorsport such as Formula 1 for the drivers, to protect them from the sound of the engines, and also so that they can hear their team on the radio
Those probably have another feature, which is playing sounds that cancel out the incoming sound. So you can get a lot more noise reduction than just insulation would give you.
BlownTyre Im going to be 8 rows up from the track at the Daytona 500 (NASCAR) in February, and Im definitely making sure to have good hearing protection.
I'm going to be going to the British GP in July and I'm going to be taking some. I won't be too far away from the action, so you can never be too sure.
I actually use Bose A20 Aviation headsets when I'm flying, they're the same ones Mercedes use!
As a fellow linguist, I am fascinated by the utterance "what should I get some god damn?" at about 30 seconds in. It sounds like it should violate an island constraint--that "what" shouldn't be able to move to the beginning of the phrase. And yet it does.
"Don't take your earplugs out to piss." That is good advice. Thank you, Matt and Tom.
"You don't want to put a dirty thing in an orifice." Laughing forever.
This is my third time buying earplugs through the amazon affiliate link on this video. Least i can do since this video has probably saved my hearing haha
Came back to this video after a VERY loud gig and I've had ringing in my ears for the last couple hours
I use the foam ear plugs for practicing bagpipes because I don't want to go deaf but I tune before putting them in and am always surprised how different the bagpipes sound without earplugs. You got me thinking that I might want to invest in some better ear protection.
I remember working on a local Battle of the Bands for a couple of years. Myself, one of the older judges, and the sound engineer used to shake our heads at the younger staff who declined our offer of earplugs.
this is literally just like what having a conversion with Slightly Older Family Members is like I love it
This is the reason why I kept my earbuds in even after their battery and the phone's battery had run out while at a wedding reception.
I did an internship at a production hall that was quite loud and I thought it was a joke when a guy told me to carefully read the user's manual on the box of those foam ear plugs
thanks guys, i never thought about the issue but i want to secure my hearing and as a college student i am exposed at parties etc a lot.
I just ordered myself the cheapest alpine plugs and am really happy that you used this channel to not let us make the same mistakes the older people like you did.
I do lighting and sound for events for a living.
I always bring earplugs (unless I forgot them at home, in which case I usually regret it), and have since I got tinnitus in my right ear from the bad decision of another sound guy. I was fixing some speakers at an outdoor festival, found the problem and told the other guy I'd found the problem and to give me time to get out of the speaker enclosure. He blared pink noise with my head about 2" from the front of the speakers.
I get asked all the time to turn the music up (usually due to noise such as crowd) and get asked all the time to turn it down (usually because it is rather loud).
I also tell people to bring ear plugs all the time, and have given some to people in the crowd often enough.
6:25 CITATION NEEDED!!!!! Call Gary "Citation Needed" Brannan!
So interesting tidbit. The first time I ever mixed live audio I had a massive ear infection. I couldn't hear at all out of one ear, and the other was so muffled I could barely make out words at normal conversation levels.
Afterwords, I had people coming to me saying "That was the best I've ever heard it sound in this place". So it *is* possible to mix good audio without the best hearing, you just have to understand how your hearing is affected and adjust accordingly :)
I'm always distressed by the number of people at metal concerts who seem to not be wearing earplugs. I desperately hope it's that they're all afficionados and so have the nice clear ones that fit tight and don't show, or else there are a lot of people in my area with severe hearing loss.
Concerts I’ve been to have been at a volume level such that you could easily hear it if people talked, laughed or whatnot. But everybody respected the artist and music. Probably not normal, but lovely.
I have a slight ringing in my ears, and I always have done since childhood. It's easier to notice in a quiet place access sometimes rings louder for no apparent reason. However unlike most people my tinnitus wasn't caused by loud music, but rather the extreme eczema I had as a baby.
I can't hear those bells without expecting the riff to "Hell's Bells" to kick in.
for me i expect Welcom98 to start playing
That's not close enough to Hell's Bells, likely just distance and the phone mic.
I can still tell the opening exactly too though.
As someone who's starting to feel the effects of loud music over the years and have actually been looking into earbuds for gigs. I'm definately going to get a pair.
I never really bothered with ear plugs until one show at Coachella left me with temporary buzzing. After that, I've always worn ear plugs.
I'm going to a show next week. I specifically remembered this video, and came back to see what you guys recommended.
It wasn’t Matt that was out of time, Big Ben wasn’t paying attention to Matt’s amazing conducting skills! The musician should always follow the conductor!
So much bong discussion.... Mine's right over there! xD
I played tuba pretty seriously throughout high school and college (secondary school and university for UK audiences), and I wish I had worn ear plugs. I definitely have hearing damage from years of playing a loud instrument in small rooms, often at the same time as other people who also play loud instruments.
What a coincidence, I started this video because my tinnitus was bothering me.
actually well timed amazon link i need new ear plugs for work and the farm and now im reminded thanks
They were sat on the left hand bench in Old Palace Yard, behind the statue of George V, for those wondering.
Expect the Orifice!!!
Nobody Expects The Orifice
I hear the British version of "The Orifice" is better than the version from the United States.
Neil G. Dickson this was gold
+ Neil
Just wait until the Japanese had a go at it...
"You don't put a dirty thing in an orifice" sounds like a good metaphor for 2016.
Thanks Tom and Matt for making me feel better
Something to add about hearing protection for non-gig related things, if it sounds noisy, and you are near it for long periods of time, you will need hearing protection. 8 hours at 85db can damage you the same as a loud gig for 30 minutes.
I’ve actually started doing this, and it’s a great help; thanks
I went to a gig once and my ears rang for about a week afterwards. Was pretty nervous about damage but all is well!
Just realized the different coloured crosses on the failed explanations, nice touch.
Me at 20, agreeing with this for as long as I can remember because I was raised to be careful with my hearing by two people with tinnitus. (I have now got custom molded earplugs, other earplugs give me an earaches then a headache if I wear them for any greater lengths of time, 2+hours)
65daysofstatic are awesome :D and yes, usually very loud.
Thank you for the recommendation :-)
I was eating while watching this. I'm putting away my food now.
I was just thinking about getting some God Damn because there are a couple concerts I plan on attending in 2017, so thanks for your recommendations! (I was just going to go with the foam ones) I will note that the link provided is for the "Pro" earplugs which seem to only have the additional benefit of having "low" attenuation earplugs in addition to "medium" and "high," so you can save a couple bucks by going for the non-pro version.
The ad after the video must have watched it. It was a tinnitus support group ad.
I spent close to 15 years as a live sound engineer and my hearing is permanently shot, despite wearing custom plugs for most of the time - now you can't always mix with plugs in, but once a sound is dialled in, you can get away with it.
I'm 31 and I have a characteristic permanent - 20dB notch of noise induced hearing loss in my right ear at 3-5 kHz (my left ear has been knackered since birth) and this ear is the one I took the plug out to hear the mix
Always always always wear plugs!
The actual damage is by the cilia in the cochlea responsible for those frequencies being vibrated too hard and dying
Saw a punk band in a small city venue. Speakers turned up to drown out the drunk screaming fans, *and I was in front of the left ones with bass noise simply beeping in By ear* not producing notes.
*Saw a horn trio after that. Beautiful, quiet venue. People provided live commentary of the piece during its performance.*
There's 'sound' and there's 'noise', if the audio guy sets the system up properly, you can hear clearly, you can get the chest thump, but you're not shouting at the top of your voice to talk to the person next to you.
I once went to a disco that had a lot of hiss ..... coming from the bass bins on an 'Orange' system (bass, mid and tweeter in separate cabinets).
*graciously still gets hearing damage from being in marching band and not everyone is exactly quiet*
Continuation: My left ear doesn't pick up lower pitches well anymore, and my right ear only slightly has issues hearing higher pitches
I have had tinnitus for years and years, way too many years of hunting/loud gigs/farming equipment without hearing protection. As bad as it is, you kind of get used to it, the only thing is falling asleep at night can be an issue if i dont have any other ambient noise in the room, so these days i just listen to audiobooks when I fall asleep.
I went to a muse concert one time. Young people were given free ear plugs if they went to the inner ring.
After last nights concert, I looked this video up to prepare for next weeks. Thank you for the recommendation. Should’ve listened sooner. Hopefully not too late, though…
I play the clarinet and I use the same Alpine ear plugs with the least soundproofing ends when playing in an orchestra. They help preventing hearing damage from sudden loud noises from other instruments like trumpets and trombones but don't completely screw up the balance so I can still listen to others around me. Many musicians have trouble with tinnitus because they stubbornly decide not to use any hearing protection.
Think about it like this: The least loud part of a venue besides, like the bathrooms and stuff, is the stage itself. Most of the speakers point away from the stage. And the musicians still wear hearing protection. That should really be all you need to know.
Also, if the foamy ones you mentioned are the same ones I'm thinking of, those are mostly for construction workers, which is why they don't work for music.
Once put my head in the bass bin at a Guns N Roses gig, (welcome to the Jungle)
Nearly 28 years later, still have tinnitus if I go to a nightclub or ride a motorcycle fast for long periods.........
Ear plugs are HIGHLY recommended 👌
Americans very well know how the foamy-squish-roll pin-your-ears-back earplugs work, because we have many guns and the ranges at which we shoot at with these guns and these things.
Will there be a new season of Citation Needed this January?
Liam Hackett"love recording"? What?
I work as a technician in theatre and live events, and I permanently have a set of ear plugs with me. Not only is it usfull while operating the gig, but for the many times I end up having to crawl around behind the drummer, running cables while they sound check at full volume. I know so many veterans of the industry who now have permanent hearing loss.
I never go to big gigs, but I play bass a lot. Therefore I use Shure IEMs with Comply Foam isolating tips. You're right about the damage, and it sounds painful when the drummer plays before I get my earphones in.
this is something i have never thought about, going to gig tonight and now think about getting ear plugs...
GET SOME *GOD DAMM*
This is very relevant to me, thank you. I'm going to see Porter Robinson and Madeon's 'Shelter' tour and I'd completely forgotten about this kind of precaution.
I have a bit of tinnitus in both ears, and can point out the cause ( left ear was exposure to a jackhammer exhaust and a mag dump from an M-14, right ear was explosives testing where I stupidly forgot my muffs). Hearing doesn't come back, protect what you've got. That's why I tend to double up (plugs and muffs) when I'm going shooting.
I've got some molded ones. Nice response curve. Pricey, yes but less than a life supply of the foam ones.
Finally a video I have a load of experience with :P
Anyway I'm a music student and getting some hearing protection is vital, if nothing else it kinda makes the bands sound better cause you don't hear the room booming as much. I've use acscustom earplugs personally. They cost less than £10 (last I checked) and all they do is bring the level down. I don't think they're working until I take them out but I highly recommend them.
Tom mentioned that in the UK, the venue is required to have earplugs for the staff and you might get them there. I'm not sure if it's required in the US, but I've definitely done this before, and every time, they will have some earplug behind the bar and will give them to you if you ask.
this would work really well as a podcast