Olympus 12-40mm F2.8 vs. Lumix 12-60mm F2.8-F4
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- Olympus 12-40mm F2.8 Vs. Lumix 12-60mm F2.8-F4
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Nice to see you both together, comparing the Panasonic and Olympus m43 gear together and not as rivals.
Thank you for the comment.
Cats and dogs living together.
Hey guys. Now i own both of these lenses... The body i use it with is EM-5 Mk III so here is my experience.
Both lenses have about same level of sharpness and allow about same detail, both are water and dustproof.
Olympus 12-40 F2,8 PRO
+ is faster
+ bokeh is softer
+ allows to use Pro Capture
+ MF clutch
- slightly front heavy on EM5 Mk III
Panasonic Leica DG 12-60 F2.8-4.0
+ Has 5x zoom
+ On M5 Mk III feels almost perfectly balanced
+ Autofocus is perfectly silent, and zoom is much more quieter - this might be interesting for video
+- slightly more visible vignetting at 12mm
+- 9 aperture blades, but has "onion ring" highlights
+- Focal lenght above 50mm allows for softer bokeh even with F4.0. This also allows better compression
- F2.8 goes down really fast when zooming in. on 25mm its F3.5.
- If you carry your lenses with reverse mounted lens hood, this one is quite impractical as it blocks zoom ring
Now... why to purchase both of these lenses...
I already had Olympus 12-40mm for 5 years and it is my primary lens. The zoom range is very versatile, and allows to use it for almost any purpose. Bokeh isnt the smoothest, but for portraiture its sufficient.
Initially i was looking only for a backup lens - in case 12-40 will need a repair. I could go for another 12-40 but, later i realized that i dont own any travel lens which would also (at least partially) cover for my Lumix G X 35-100. So Olympus 12-45 Pro and Lumix 12-35 were both out of consideration.
In most situations i would prefer to carry my main camera bag with Olympus 12-40 F2.8 and Lumix G X 35-100 F2.8. This, including flash and spare batteries weights only 2kg. But in case i would be more limited, Leica 12-60 allows me to use smaller camera bag - one body, one lens, small flash at
Thanks for sharing.
Really enjoyed this one guys! You should do more videos together like this as good fun and makes a review more interesting as well.
We are planning to more of these. Next one will be on Mattis channel.
Good fun! Especially the size comparison of M4/3 to "Can(n)on" Ha!
:D, thanks!
I like the way you can have different brands, but still be ok about people differing in viewpoint. Most CZcams camera people are terribly partisan, it is their brand or no brand, but you guys have fun with your differences. It is a refreshing change, keep it up.
Thank you.
Hello Peter, good video. I started with the 12-40 and I love this lens. Now I switched to 12-100 and it become my the most universal travel lens. This one beats everything.
Nice and relaxing to see two guys having a good time with their toys.
Thank you.
I own both with my G9. With the M.Zuiko, I loose zooming range and lens IS, but I gain image sharpness and constant aperture. So I would say : it depends on what you're gonna shoot.
Handheld and moving operator: Leica.
Tripod and/or video: M.Zuiko.
11:00 I prefer the compression of 60mm over the 40mm. But the Bokeh look equally good.
The Lumix lens wins hands down in the range of 41-60 mm focal length.
I've been waiting for this to happen!
Thank you for making this possible! Can't wait to see more content with both of you M43 gurus. :)
Thank you.
Ha-ha, you two are great! Thanks for an entertaining comparison. Just so you know, my wife shoots Olympus and I shoot Lumix and we use the lenses from both brands interchangeably. (primes and zooms) That's part of the beauty of micro four thirds. :-)
Thanks.
Don't forget that Panasonic/LUMIX offers two 12-60mm lenses. My G85 came with the non-Leica, "half-price" version -- 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 -- which has served me very well for photography and especially video.
I tried both lenses and decided to the 12-60mm. Optical there is not really a lot of difference, but I like Dual IS at Lumix and the 20mm at the upper end.
I have the GH5 with the Olympus M Zuiko 12 - 40 mm f2.8 Pro.
But I have problems focusing with the 12mm focal length. I can get a sharp focus at 12mm when the subject is close to the lens ~ 1 ft or .5 - 1.0 meters but when I get more distant like 7 ft I cannot get a sharp focus at 12mm. The focus wants to be all the way to infinity but it is not sharp whether I focus closer or not - even if I line up the red focus line in the middle of the infinity symbol.
However if I focus at infinity and zoom in just a little to 14mm everything is very sharp.
I cannot figure out what the problem is.
I have the GH5 set on Movie mode and manual focus. The firmware in GH5 and Olympus is up to date.
Why would I not be able to get sharp focus at around 7 ft at 12mm but get sharp focus closer or with zoom out to 14mm? I have tried focusing with the focus ring slide back (linear focus like your said) and toward me (wire focus) but nothing is sharp at 12mm at a distance. Close up is fine.
When I increase the f stop at 12mm it gets a bit sharper than 2.8 - 3.2 but not really sharp.
I would really appreciate any help with this. It is driving me crazy and I have spent hours and hours watching videos and experimenting to try to figure this out.
That is strange. Have you a possibility to test it with an Olympus camera? There might be some calibration problems. That is the only thing I can come up with.
Great video I really enjoyed it Peter! loved the Finland facts, I really need to visit someday!
Thank you!
Yay! The Dynamic Duo!
I agree. M 8/3!
Thank you for this, it was informative and a lot of fun, especially as I just got the 12-40 used for a good price. It's also made me want to visit Finland. Just remember, boys, cannon or no cannon, size doesn't matter!
Thanks.
Your videos are very creative, enjoyable and educational! Thank you Peter!
Thank you!
Great video. I shoot mostly Olympus but have owned Panasonic cameras from time to time. Currently, I have the E-M1 mk II, Pen F and Panasonic GX9 (which is mostly used with the old 20mm F1.7). I like them all, but will refrain from offering a biased opinion towards either because I’m far more familiar with how Olympus does things. I own the 12-40 but would certainly enjoy the little extra reach of the Panasonic.
That was fun video, pleasant to watch and instructive between 2 really kind friends! Few years ago, Panasonic was more centric for video and Olympus was the way to go for photography. But now both, the Lumix G9 and Olympus EM1 mark II can do very well in both fields. Funny fact is since Panasonic is more coming from the video side, their "Pro" lens are with variable aperture. The 12-35mm f2.8 or the 35-100mm f2.8 are not Panasonic "Pro" lens, more plastic feel. I just shoot this weekend a wedding with the 12-60mm f2.8-4 but I really wish I had the Olympus 12-40mm f2.8. That one stop is huge when taking photo in a room. The maximum shutter speed I could get at 60mm was 1/60 sec. If I had Olympus 12-40mm f2.8, I could had the shutter speed at 125 to freeze people while dancing. For video, the Olympus makes more sense as well. In my opinion, the extra reach you get from the 12-60mm f2.8-4 makes it a better street photography lens. But how does the 12-40mm f2.8 performs on Panasonic body with DfD focus technology? How does the 12-60mm performs on the EM1 mark II to acquire focus and film? How do theses lenses perform using Olympus lenses on Panasonic body using C-AF? How do theses lens perform using Panasonic/Leica lenses on Olympus body using C-AF? Any difference in colors or any focus hunting issues or photo/video degradation while mixing lenses from different manufacturers? How is the weather sealing performs while interchanging lenses from manufacturer? Overall, both are wonderful lens, hopefully they are fully compatible. Thank you so much for sharing this video!
Maybe we will do a video where we swap the lenses.
Pluses and minuses. Every system, every body, every lens... It's all about compromises. At times the constant f/2.8 aperture trumps the extra 20mm at the long end. And at times the extra 20mm at the long end trumps the constant aperture. For things like weddings and indoor events where light is a scarce resource, faster aperture is a real plus.
Thanks for comparing these two lens and also thanks for your friendship lumix vs olympus.
The best part is you two went for a beer after testing the gear. Nice way to end...
Yes it was!
Can't wait to compare my daughter has the 12-40mm
Fun and informative video. But the moment I saw MS Gabriella (13:44), the ship built at my hometown of Split, Croatia, the last one before the war, brought tears in my eyes. Exactly as I remember her. Thank you !
I think it is still in use between Helsinki and Stockholm.
@@ForsgardPeter she's a beautiful ship. I hope she served you well over the years.
Want the 12-40mm but bought the 12-35 Pana before it was released. Then I bought the 12-60 as gives more range and becomes ideal for travel. And then Oly brought out the 12-100...… But the 12-60 Pana-Leica is a great lens on my EM1 MkII
Great - thanks Peter
Great video Peter Forsgard I always learn so much from watching your videos
Fun video, I am subscribed to both of your channels, there’s always something to learn from your content (and I’m a Fujifilm user).
Thank you.
The weakest point of the m4/3 compatibility is that Olympus is not supporting Panasonic aperture ring and Panasonic is not supporting MF clutch. If they can extend it even with Dual IS support on different bodies and lenses combination it will be more than awesome! Otherwise, both are great lenses and Panasonic series of 2.8-4 lenses is very interested, very compact and with high quality. Especially the wide angle is very good because you can mount filters in front of it, this is something we are missing in Olympus line-up now.
It would make things easier if those things were supported.
The beers are like the lenses : it is a mater of taste ;-) Many thanks for this relaxed review !
Thanks guys! Fun to watch. I got the same setup as Peter.
Thanks.
Hi can anyone tell me if the Panasonic Len IS sync with Olympus IBIS. I have a EM5 iii camera body?
No it does not. Turn either the lens IS off or the IBIS Off.
Thanks ! Have a question please.. which of these lenses is right for Olympus e-m1 ?? Actually all Olympus lenses confused me!! I couldn't decide which lens is right for specific model !! Could you please give me a rule or some indicator that helps me picking the right lens according to Olympus models/ series.. thanks and best regards
Every lens with MFT mount is ok with any Olympus with MFT mount. There are no specific lenses to a specific Olympus body.
I'm a panasonic bridge camera owner and looking for a new m43 camera.
Love both your channels and enjoyed this collaboration.
As much as I like my lumix I'm very tempted to try olympus.
You guys make the decision hard because you both make good points about your preferred brand.
Disappointed with that. What with the focus speed? Video focusing. Body exchanging? 17 minutes about nothing argh
BTW have you compared image distortion at wide angle with same aperture ? As I wrote before 12-60 has some.I curious if Olympus is better or not in this respect.
I have a E-M1 mark ii and I have both lens. For video I prefer the Panasonic for few reasons:
-Parfocal
-Zoom ring
-60mm
-weight feels more balanced
I don't mind shooting f4 bc I'm using lights. If I wanted fast performance I have a lot of fast primes T1 / f1.4
The Oly is a nice lens but for video I give it to the Panny Leica
Peter and Matti, great stuff! I’m a fan and I shoot with a bulky DSLR! I always learn something. Keep up the double exposures!
Thanks.
@@ForsgardPeter LOL! Peter and Matti in 30 years... fun show guys! enjoyed your humor, can't say it was a decisive "win" on the choice of 'better'. I have a G9, I use for video and stills, I understand the Oly is sharper and on a gimbal, you can't really use the IBIS. So, would that mean the win goes to 12-60? Because of the IBIS for handheld stills? I'm not really bias, maybe towards the money side of it. as the Oly is less money, not a lot, about as much as the difference is between the 40mm-60mm I suppose, your assistance on this question would be helpful. Cheers!
Hello. You had fun by doing this video. That's cool :) thanks for it. Eventually, I guess that the only focal range difference or the opportunity to get one lens at the most decent price that would push for one or the other (lense). Or the lense we already own aside this lense... At usage, it seems to be quite similar.
Hello, can we use Lens Panasonic H-ES12060E 12-60 F2.8-F4 for Camera OM10 Mark II? Thanks
Yes, you can.
Peter I was looking for Live ND Filter on the OMD! MKlll its not selectable. Can you help?
You need to have the camera on Shutter priority or Manual. That could be the problem?
you guys work really well together, well done!!....nice to see you getting some sun Peter!
Thanks.
Great Video Sir, as always! I have a question please guide me which lense should I buy for my OMD EM1 ii; Olpympus 75mm f1.8, Sigma 56 f1.4, or Olympus 40-150 f2.8? I am looking for portraits!(Although, I think 40-150 will be used in many more occasions). Will 40-150 f2.8 be good for portraits as well?
Thank You for your time in advance!
All of those lenses are great for portraits. I all comes down to what other uses you might have with the lens. The 75mm f1.8 is one of my favorite lens for portraits, but if you need more versatile lens I would consider the 40-150mm f2.8 lens.
Of course the best portrait lenses will be the 1.2 primes. The 75mm is a great lens but really only suits head and shoulders unless you want to get well back from your subject. The other 1.8 prime lenses still do good job and I feel sharp enough and cheap enough to get both the 25mm and the 45mm and there is even a trend now to do environmental portrait shots with the 17mm focal length (35 equivalence).The 45mm is a real gem for its size and probably the one I use the most for portrait but then I found I was using the 25mm the other day to capture a bit more of the background. The 40-150 Pro is great as a portrait travel lens, but you often are tempted to over zoom in. I guess its a dilemma deciding what lenses to buy and most of us end up buying quite a few lenses over the years, and I am happy to report that I use nearly all. I would really like to get the 1.2 Pro, but really expensive and I cannot decide whether to get the 25mm or the 45mm as I really need both focal lengths. For the moment I am keeping my wallet in my pocket
Great video guys. I have a Lumix 12-60 on Olympus Em1 mk2, problem with understanding the Ibis. Do I need to set a focal length? I just use lens stabiliser at the moment
You could turn off the stabilizer from the body and only use the stabilizer in the lens.
@@ForsgardPeterthe ibis stabilization is much better I think
I had so much fun watching you guys.
Gasp! Gigantic typo at 3:55! Otherwise, enjoyed the video and, until now, never felt bad for buying the 12-40 separately when it was first introduced and all I had was the E-M5 and some primes.
Many Thanks for the review that you have made. An excellent all purpose Olympus PRO lens 12-40 mm, covering the range from wide angle 24 mm, passing by standard 50 mm and up to portrait 80 mm shooting. However; please make another dedicated review, for video shooting, using this magnificent lens showing its auto focus and stability.
If both of you are in front of the camera who is shooting the video? Some things of mild interest are which lens has more uncorrected curvilinear distortion and also color fringing. Plus if you fit the Panasonic lens on the Olympus body do you see a slow down in stills rapid burst rate?
Most of our videos are done solo, but sometimes we help each other to film. On this one we used a cold camera, so no one was helping us film.
To the funny part, why I bougt Metabones Speedbooster for Nikon F to m43. I have loads of Nikkor lenses, and one of them are the Mitakon 85/1.2. It's as sharp wide open as Canon 85/1.2, and used with Speedbooster, it will give a angel of view as a 60/0.85. It will blow your mind. If it's pitch black, and you cannot see anything, but with that stuff you can take a portrait photo ... and se the person.
Thank you. How well does the Olympus lens auto-focus on the Panasonic body and the Panasonic lens on the Olympus body? Particularly the quality of auto-focus in tracking mode as well as in single shot. Thanks.
We are working with Matti to make a video about using Panasonic lenses on an Olympus body and vice a versa.
Great idea because i was thinking of buying the Leica with an E-M1 III (extra reach with compact expert body).
And the winner is: Oly 12-100 F4 :-)
:D, a good one!
I absolutely agree, I like this lens very much! I prefer the longer reach over the faster aperture because eithe F2,8 or F4 is not really fast, either. If I really need fast, I go for a prime lens, but the versatility of the 12-100 is hard to beat!!
@@erwinmayer5033 AND THE EXTRA WEIGHT😓
Thanks! I'd love to see an episode with contrasting or complementary lenses for approaching subjects or topics - Like the MZ40-150mmF2.8(+MC20) and the VS10-25mmF1.7 For instance, you could co-ordinate or brainstorm different shots :)
Good idea.
If you use the Leica lens on an Olympus - will the Image Stabilization still work?
Yes, but not the SyncIS. So it is either IBIS or OIS of the lens.
I bought my 12-40 separately when it first came out for the constant aperture. I didn’t like the recent new cameras from Olympus and went Panasonic but kept the Olympus lenses. I don’t use the 12-40 much in quite a while and basically live with the prime 25mm 1.8 on the G9.
Hahahahaha loved that jab to Canon. In all seriousness that is why I love MFT because its small enough that you would be ok to bring it in your travels, not so with full frame camera with several lenses... I can bring maybe 4 MFT lenses with no issue especially if 3 of them is prime and one zoom.
Peter - love your videos. You are also a great ambassador for your country. Have you done one specifically explaining image stabilisation? I am struggling to understand IBIS (camera?) and OIS (lens?). I have E-M1 ii and Lumix 12-60. Should I leave both on or switch the lens off? A video to explain why would be great. Apologies if you have already done one.
Usually when using lenses from other brands turn the stabilizer off from the lens.
I have booth lens and using with Lumix GX8 and GX9 booth lens are good but I think the best is .... Vitrox EF-M2 + Canon 17-40L F4 and Canon 24-105L F4 :)
Hi thanks for wonderful serious photography work which helps a lot a joyable to watch... In your video I saw some images on your wall.. If you have taken through olympos and processed it and printed at home.... Can you throw some light on the cycle of taking the image to processing it to the final pint one of these days please
Those images are from 2006. Close ups of kittens ears. Printed on a glossy paper with Epson printer and mounted on a aluminium frame. It was done by a printing studio.
Hi, planning to dive into m43 world. Try to choose between em5 iii (14-150) , em1 ii (12-140 or 12-100 as kit), g9 (12-35 or 12-160 as kit) and the whatever kit lenses they offer as bundle since that will reduce my first lens price to the minimum. What do you suggest should i go with as my anchor point that i can build around with additional lenses later on. My priorities are full weather sealing, outdoor shooting and image quality. Which ll be the most worth it starter kit. Thank you.
I would most likely get the E-M5 MKIII with the 14-150mm or E-M1 MKII with 12-100mm f4 depending on your budget.
@@ForsgardPeter thank you. problem is cant find 14-150 bundle offer anywhere. I'll try again once these tough times are over otherwise on a second though i'd have to go with em1ii since buying 14-150 separately doesn't make sense to me where i could get a bundled 12-40 for a little cheaper.
Also i have one more question i know i shouldn't ask from an Olympus ambassador, do you think olympus lenses are worth the extra when it comes to weather sealing when comparing 35-100 and 40-150 ?
Thank you once again.
Thats true that the 14-150mm might not be bundled with the E-M5 MKIII. Then it is of course worth getting a combo that is sold. Weather sealing is something that might be needed when travelling. It is not necessary when the weather is good, but that is not always the case.
Funny, is have both lenses in front of me right now and I'm trying to decide which one to keep. Would've been interesting to see both on both bodies. To see if the Panasonic one focuses good on the Olympus body and the other way around. Or how much the Dual IS really helps.
Micro four thirds to a cannon, that had me crying with laughter! Great video as I’ve been thinking of trading in my Leica 12-60 to Oly 12-40.
I bought my 12-40 f2.8 separate. :(
You did, nothing wrong with that.
Peter Forsgård yeah I got lucky and got a great deal. It's my most used lens and I've been extremely happy with it.
Same here, though I wish I have the extra 20mm reach of the lumix
Good video to watch, you should do more camera/lens swaps, so we get your take on Lumix gear and Matti's take on Oly gear like the 17 f1.8 vs 15mm f1.7, 45mm f1/2 vs 42mm f1.2 etc...
Great to see you together testing. I would like if you change lenses so you can see any differences oly with pana lenses and otherwise. Hop to see more videos together
We are doing just that next. We are working on a video where we test how lenses work on the body of the other brand.
That video was great fun, more please!
Thanks. Yes, we are planning on doing more of these.
Thank you for your great and funny video! I've been very happy about it, because I have wished for this "challenge" of you two. :D
Each of your two channels is a pleasure, but you two are unbeatable together. You two made my day! :)
I'm looking forward to your next videos! Together or alone.
Both of you are very relaxed about what photography is all about. Very authentic and sympathetic!
It was nice to see Suomenlinna again. Last time I was there, it was much colder ... it was in March with ice and snow. ;)
One reason we did that because you mentioned it in the comments of both of our videos. Suomenlinna is a lot different during winter time.
@@ForsgardPeter Thank you very much :)
Really enjoyed the video, fun and informative. Great work guys. I particularly loved the joke (won't spoil it for others)...
On the portrait side by side, I think the Panasonic lens has a better image. I think it has a better bokeh. Maybe because of the longer focal length.
Loved the video, you guys did really well, nice entertainment, some facts and humour. 6/5
Thanks!
Nice video and photos plus the history of the place you photographed at were very interesting. I am one of the few people who did actually purchase the Olympus 12-40 f2.8 separately. I plan to check out Matti's channel as I now have a Pansonic G9 in addition to the Olympus OMD-E-M1. Thanks for doing the video.
Matti has a lot of stuff about Panasonic. His channel is worth subscribing.
Loved those pics on your wall at 0:24 of a cat's ear. What lens were they taken with? Zuiko 60mm?
Thanks. Those are old photos from the era I was using Canon. I had the Sigma 150mm f2.8 macro.
witch stabilization would you use on Olympus with the 12-60 ?
Turn the stabilizer off from camera and use the stabilizer in the lens. Not sure what happens when you turn off the stabilizer fron the lens and leave it on in camera.
Peter Forsgård thanks. I personaly thought it would reverse. Maybe a topic for a CZcams movie 😊
Perfect as always :-) Thanks Peter.
I want my 12-60/2.8-3.5 back from my old 4/3 E-5... yes, it works with MMF-3, but I would be happy if Olympus would redo that as a real mFT-lens...
At all, nice compare, I'll keep my OM-D.
Nice comparison. Wish that you also exchange lens and use on your corresponding camera to see if there are any differences in quality output and usage features for a more in depth comparison between both brands of m43.
True that swapping the lenses would have good.
Bokeh on the Lumix lens is more bubble like and the Oly is a little more diffuse but very similar. Nice collaboration and showcase of m43.
Better to stand behind a Canon than a Nikon....Peter :-) Both of you are at the top of my youtube list for info, education, and the passion you exude for your craft on screen!
Thank you.
Fun video I liked it. Question the Lumix lens had built in stably function. If you use it on the Olympus EM1MARK2 body can you also use the lenes stabilization as well to add to the built in body?
No, you cannot. If you have the 12-60mm lens, I suggest that you turn off the stabilizer in the body and use only the stabilizer in the lens.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks for the info..
@@ForsgardPeterwhy??? Isn’t the ibis stabilization better?
Very funny video, guys! It surprises me, that the difference between F2,8 and F4 is so tiny.
It is actually quite small difference. Thanks.
I've been a subscriber of yours for a while. I shoot with the Panasonic Lumix G85 instead of Olympus. I've found your tips to be useful as a direct crossover. I subscribed to Matti's channel today. Thanks for the link.
Thank you.
😂 Great video! Lots of fun, which photography should always be.
I have the Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO. But still I am considering the Panasonic Leica 12-60mm. Maybe some day...
Paul 😎
this is one of your best ones! your dead pan humour is excellent! oh , and the reviews of course are interesting
Thanks.
It's always nice to have choices. Not so long ago the question was whether four-thirds would survive as a system. I believe it has survived, albeit in the form of mft + FT lenses + adapters like the MMF-3 - which I use. So, nowadays even more choices. For me, it comes down (pretty much) to whether you use a Panasonic or an Oly body to start with. I have an Oly body, thus the 12-40 f2.8 is my choice. But I own both Panasonic and Pana-Leica lenses also have others, like Sigma. The video here (for which many thanks guys) is nice to watch but ultimately inconclusive for me - this is not a knock on the evident hard work put in. If this idea of brand-comparison videos is going to continue, I'll put in the suggestion that a comparison of both lenses here with the Oly 12-60 SWD would be interesting. The 12-60 SWD is not mft of course and it's relatively larger, but it's still a good lens and by no means obsolete as an option for many (like me). Id even say the Oly 50-200 SWD/non-SWD can - more or less - go head to head with competing mft options but that's a different story.
A video comparing the 3 as purchase options would truly be 'visionary' -
Cheers
Interesting idea.
Great video. Thanks for the adventure :).
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fun vid and great fortress venue, Peter. Love the canon visual pun sprinkled throughout. Got a “bang” out of it 😂. Next time you guys do a lens comparison, how about switching cameras midway? That way we can see how well the lenses perform on different m4/3 bodies - speak to autofocus as well.
That is a good idea and most likely we will do that.
Just out of interest. Were the the glasses you were drinking from pint glasses? Good video by the way.
Yes, they were. Thanks.
Nice Video.What camera and lens that you record this video?
Thanks. I think it was filmed with E-M1 MKII and 12-40mm f2.8.
We all know the Lumix is better haha.
Seriously though I "only" use the Lumix version of this lens and it performs as well as I need it to. Its mostly used for situations where I often need more depth of field anyway so the faster aperture isn't really an issue although the better focus for video might be helpful :)
Just got a super good deal on a G85 with a 12-60(not the leica). Have an Em5 II with 12-40 right now and thinking of selling the olympus just to save money, more than anything.
Not sure if I should keep the 12-40 or try to sell that and go for the leica to pair with the G85 :/
For an amateur like me, I'm thinking i'll not really notice the difference :P
I'm deciding between those exact two setups (g85 with 12-60 non leica vs Em5 II with the 12-40 pro). Would you mind sharing your thoughts on the two and how they compare? The Olympus set can be bought for 799 GBP at the moment, which is a great deal which won't last long I think
We like the couple of you!!! Fun, useful and interesting.
Thank you! 😃
Brilliant as always, loved the Canon comments. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks.
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Thanks for this and other videos made with Matti Sulanto comparing Panasonic gear with that of Olympus. I started the M43 trail 10 years ago with the Panasonic GF1, Sold my Nikon D3 and lenses about 6 years ago and now use an E-M1 ii for Stills Photography and GH-5 mainly for Video. Along the way I have collected a good selection of the best lenses for both systems. So here’s the request (or opportunity or challenge)!! I still don’t have a comprehesive picture of what happens to image stabilisation when you use certain Panasonic glass on Olympus bodies and vice versa. There is so much conflicting advice on the web. As you and Matti offer a balanced view on the two systems how about making a definitive guide to cover this issue?
We might cover that. I know that that question is asked a lot. Let's see what we can do and what lenses we can get hold of.
That was a fun video. I'd love a camera comparison.
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any camers = any videocameras are still problem with blur focuses and blur depth of fields
In MFT land, there are no cameras without IBIS. I think both lenses are great in their own way. And the best of all: Lumix users can chose Olympus lenses and vice versa - it can't get better, or can it? ;-) What you both forgot to mention: Both lenses are weather sealed (the Olympus one might be a bit better in this regard, but I guess it doesn't matter that much in practice).
I bought from the panasonic guy an 12-40 2.8 olympus during xmas.
Entertaining stuff indeed - thanks chaps. I have both lenses and tend to use the Olympus 12-40mm on my EM1Mk2 and the Lumix/Leica on my PEN-F. Why? Well, I can't explain it from a technical point of view but I just think the Lumix/Leica feels great on the PEN-F and the results 'seem' to be better than when I use it on the EM1Mk2. This is the same with the Oly 12-40mm lens on the EM1Mk2 vs using it on the PEN-F - the results just 'seem' better. There is no logic in this at all, of course, but there we are! Both are great lenses, though. [I've never owned or used a Lumix interchangeable lens camera (sorry, Matti) so I can't comment about using these lenses with one of those.] Keep up the good work - maybe include even more actual photos?
Thank you very much Worldwide Wayman!
Another pointless internet comparison with poor comparative photos. Come on Peter, you are better than this !