Why I got the Nikon 24-70 F4 Review
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- I know I preached all the glories of the Nikon 50 1.2, but sometimes you need that extra width. Like 24mm amount of width. Hence the Nikon Z 24-70mm f/4 S. I go into why I chose f/4 instead of f/2.8 and an overall review of the lens after using it for this wedding season.
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The used market is flooded with these for around £350, most barely used. I feel like people don't even give it a chance because it's a 'kit lens'.
I know! It kind of pains me to look at all the used ones, and they are for like half the price I paid! Totally, it's a great little lens!
I shelled out for an F2.8, shot the thing on F4 the whole time!
Thank you so much! This really helped with my decision!! And you are so adorable.
Glad I could help!
This was a great review! You are right about decision fatigue. I am getting a few more primes vs. getting the 2.8 since I have the f4
i am looking at this lens for my next addition. your review was really on point. thank you
This is so so helpful! I'm so glad I found you! I just purchased my first mirrorless Nikon z6ii and I got this lens with it! I'm going from a Nikon d750 so I watched your other video about switching to mirrorless. I'm so encouraged (terrified but encouraged ha)! I did get the adapter because I'm hoping to use my Sigma Art 35 and 85!
Oh awesome! I think you will love the transition, it takes a little time to get use to it, but once you change it's feels impossible to go back! Totally, I've tried the adapter with the Sigma art lenses and they work well!
Loved your insights. I settled on...both. 😁 I haven't been very happy with the 4 in low light action scenarios, so it will become my light travel lens. I'm going to put the 2.8 to work in those indoor venues. I don’t have any primes, so I figured the 24-70/2.8 and 70-200/2.8 would cover just about everything I need in two lenses.
Love your sample shots, btw!
My wife and I shoot photo & video here in S. Florida for weddings. I still remember the FIRST time I gave the 24-70 f4 a real chance at a wedding and was IMMEDIATELY impressed with the sharpness and how close it could get to the details! We’ve recently added the 17-28 to our collection, along with the 105 macro. Both ridiculously great additions!! Thank you for another amazing video! Cheers, Chris.
That's awesome! love that you guys are working together. Yes! We used the 105 as well. I'm thinking of doing a video on that as well, but my wife actually uses it, and I haven't really shot with it, so I need to take it for a spin before I review it! haha, but I love her images from it.
Thanks for watching! Great to meet another couple wedding team out there!
Great review. The Nikkor 24-70 mm f/4 S really is a fantastic lens. Excellent quality, weather sealed, and fast enough for many circumstances. As a hobbyist, my use case considerations may be broader than those you identified. I like the options the f/2.8 affords in lower light situations; even though its heavier. Also I only have the 50 mm f/1.8 S lens. I too received the f/4 version of the 24-70 MM S as a kit lens with the Z6. When all is said and done, looking at my images in Lightroom, it is clear the 24-70 MM F/4 is my favorite lens.
Hey Greg, Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it! It's such a great little lens! I agree with you, if I had the choice and didn't need it for work then I would love the 2.8, but for what I needed the f/4 was perfect!
This review is great. Definitely now I'm sure to buy the camera with this kit lens
Thank you for this video Luke. I just upgraded from the D750 to the Z6ii. I had an old 24-70 28 for Fmount that was heavy and would be so bulky with the FTZ adapter. I ended up trading it in and getting good money. Decided on the Z6ii + 24-70 F4 kit, Z 40mm F2 and I still have my Fmount 50mm and 85mm with the adapter. So far loving the F4 but going to use my primes more for portraits. I think I relied on my zoom far too much on my DSLR when I had prime options.
You're welcome Jack! So glad it was helpful! Ah yes that prime life will be amazing, you've got a great kit!
The last photo is absolutely stunning!
Thank you!
Love the thought process behind setting the focal length and shooting at that for your shots instead of playing around with the zoom.
Awesome video Thanks ❤️🙌🏻
Glad you liked it!
Solid reasoning, I've been looking to add a 24-70 to my bag primarily for ceremony, aisle walk and cocktails since most of my weddings are outdoors. The f4 seems to be all I would need and the price is considerably less but as a pro my brain is locked in the 1.4 and 2.8 only headspace. Plus it would be my first z mount, been using my older lenses with the adapter. Thanks for the insight!
Thanks! Haha that's a great way to describe it. The pro brain. What helped me get over that was the f4 being categorized as a "pro" lens. And it definitely is excellent quality. And a question I asked myself, is in those situations will I ever shoot it at 1.4? or 2.8? Like shooting at 1.4 even 2.8 at 24mm seems silly to me, because it will pretty much look the same shot at f4. So yeah. Oh you will notice a BIG difference with the new lenses. Much faster focusing!
With more of a documentary style, the 24-120 f4 was the best for me, but I now still want a 50 and 85+ prime, a wide zoom, and a macro to cover everything I could possibly run into. I will never be a purists about primes vs zooms, especially when my clients aren't complaining. We mainly do that to each other lol.
Got my 24-70 F4 as part of my first mirrorless camera. It was a "kit" lens. I still use it more than all my other lenses.
I’m impressed with the actually REAL criteria you’ve used for your decision. What you actually want, what you actually need, not driven by hype. I’m even more impressed with your recognition that options are not universally good. Finally, the fact that you prefer 35mm angle of view over 24mm: mad respect. 35mm (on full frame) is my absolute favorite and it gets no love these days
Thanks for convincing me that the Z 24-70mm F4 is a great lens. Good review!
Helpful review! How would it do with outdoor sports? Thanks.
I have this lens and it is simply amazing for the money on the used market (I picked mine up in pristine condition for $450).
#1 in body image stabilization gives you several stops.
#2 if you need more light, use your flash. This won't work for telephoto or ultra wide lenses, but for normal focal lengths it does.
True true! Thanks for your thoughts - and watching!
Very helpful. Extremely helpful.
As of today (30 Dec 2023) I can buy the Nikon Zf with this lens, and effectively only pay $600 extra (whereas the lens by itself is currently $997), so that's a savings of $397
So I can get this lens (with my Zf) for $600, or I can spend $2,097 on the f2.8.
Dude, you convinced me, as I'd rather use primes as much as possible. Thanks so much for such a clear, concise, video!!
I like to get 24-70mm f4 S lens but my friend kept telling me to get 28-75mm f2.8 instead. I think I rather has 4mm wider than one stop aperture.
I used to be a F/2.8-zoom-kind of guy, but I've now gone to F/4 for size and wieght and because I fell 1 stop doesn't make a big enough difference to compensate that light gain.
BUT... I now use extensively F/1.4 fixed focal lenses, as those apertures make a HUGE difference. And that includes architecture, street and landscape.
I use 1.8/2.8 for portraits and products only. Shoot at minimum f6 for everything else. This lens is my all around , and only second to my 50mm 1.8
Totally! That's a great set up.
Thanks for sharing this! I have an event (shop grand opening cocktail party) coming up real soon, and I am gathering a Nikon Z6 + Nikon Z 24-70mm F4 S lens (plus a flash Nikon SB-5000). Just wondering if this is all good for this event, as I haven’t have much experiences on mirrorless cameras? I also getting a back-up camera (Nikon D7500 + Tokina 12-24mm F4 AF DX + Nikon SB-800) for the wider shoots. Any advices or comments is much appreciated! Thank You 🙏🏻
I think it sounds like you’re all ready! 24-70 is a good event lens, and with a flash you’re good to go!
What about the 24 1.8 z prime? 50 1.2 and 24 1.8? Did you ever consider the combo? I ask because I am looking for a wide option to link up with my 50mm.
I did, however, I like to use 35mm instead of 24mm if possible, but sometimes I needed that 24mm. So I would have like to go with the primes but I needed a few options.
I think if you like the 24 look then I'm sure those would be great lenses for it. I generally think it's a little too wide for my liking, which is why I really like the 35 look, it's wide with out looking very distorted.
As I got the 40mm f/2.0 with my Zf, do you think the 24-70 f/4.0 would complement it well?
I’d go more primes before a 24-70
My reasons are similar to yours. I am picking up the zf to travel as it's a light small full frame. On vacation taking photos of my family I never shoot at f2.8 or below. Generally always f4-8. Why pay for an f2.8 or faster lense and deal with he size and weight if you never going to use it.
For your use case though a wide angle f4 zoom would have serve you better.
Yeah, it is similar to a landscape photographer doesn't need a fast zoom most of the time and it is a business decision. For me as an enthusiast, I have the f/2.8 S and f/1.2 S and here are my reasons.
First is that I have shot with a Canon f/2.8 since 2000 and Nikon f/2.8 since 2008 and later bought a Canon 24-105 f/4 that is still in the box. Next, I looked up the EXIF statistic for the last 22 years and f/2.8 ranks first. Then what drove the final nail was that I let an elderly family member who knows nothing about photography to choose which 4x6 prints she liked and the one taken with the f/2.8 S was her choice, because of the better micro-contrast.
Totally! I agree with you though, if I wasn't doing it for work then I would love the 2.8. If I wasn't worried about size or weight that would be a different conversation!
That's an excellent thing to do. Look at the EXIF statistics in Lightroom to see what you ACTUALLY shoot. Great point! Haha that's amazing about your family member choosing the 2.8. Thanks for watching!
Love your channel...Why not the 24-120 f4?. Love this lens for formals and group shots..
Thanks Daniel! Glad you enjoyed it! The 24-120 is heavier and almost double the length in size. That would be too big for me. And I only need the 24-35mm range. I already have a 105mm 2.8.
Yes! It's great for those formal portraits!
I got the 2.8 as it is the ultimate for my z8 and I do not plan on buying any primes.(only the Z 105mm MC)
Cool!
I have the F4 and love it. Pd $325 like new from a private party.
Ahhhh killing me with those low prices. It didn't even cross my mind to look for a used one! I got suckered!
Enjoy the ownership! Actually,many users of this glass said it is fabulous.
Thanks you! It really is! Great little lens. Thanks for watching!
I had this lens as a ‘kit’ lens with my Z6. I was so impressed when I first used it. I do miss it now but made the choice to upgrade it to the 24-120 f/4. Yes it is larger but I like the extra reach a lot.
@@koenpijpersphotography Yes,definitely the 24-120 is the final choice for that zoom length extra.
My Z30 has no in-body stabilization. I believe this 24-70 f/4 lens has no Vibration Reduction. Should I go for a lens with VR?
I don't know much about this, but I THINK the body has the VR now in it. I may be totally wrong here. lol
Used lenses are really worth it as long as you buy it from a good camera shop, I just picked up this lens for £250 with a 1 year guarantee to go with my new Z6 II
Oh awesome! That's a great way to do it! I should have thought of that!
Still use it and sold my prime Z lenses. Light weight and best lense for shooting video too.
New post processing software now can eliminate noises from ISO 10000+ photo to be ISO 200-400so low F lense may not neccessary for some hobby photographers.
Amazing! Yeah I've been using it for more video as well! It's a great little lens.
F4 is the sweet spot for sharpness for many lenses. Some of the best Nikon primes (F & Z) are f4s.
My zoom lenses are always an f4. Dont need f2.8. Because its usually bigger & heavier. When i need faster brighter lens , i have my prime lenses.
I love your thought process on this. The group shots this lens is perfect for.
I am curious with using a 50mm do you use that for the ceremony? Or do you have a 85 you use for those close up shots.
Also what you said about having options stresses out. BECAUSE SAME. Haha. I currently have one body and had to change my lens multiple times. So frustrating.
Hey Lex! Yes, I use the 50mm for everything. For close up shots, I usually get closer in the aisle. But my wife or second will often shoot a 135mm 2.8 for those close up shots. But if I don't have that, I don't stress and just focus on the 50mm, and just physically get closer for a few, and then back away.
Yes!! My goal is to change nothing. Or minimize it. That's why I bough 256GB cards, I'll never use all that, but I wanted a card big enough to where I never have to think about changing it on a wedding day. Simplify simplify!
These are readily available used in excellent condition for under $400 USD. UNREAL cost to performance ratio.
I know. I wish I bought mine used!
Very nice.
I bought one for £279 uk. Second hand but absolutely mint. I find most images @ f5.6 is the sweet spot, incredible sharpnesses.
Oh wow that's a great deal, I definitely over paid for mine new. That's good to know! I'll have to test it out at 5.6.
@@lukewtcleland Yes, I had to check with the retailer. It didn't come with the lens hood but had both front and rear covers. I shoot commercially using 2x D850's but I must admit I'm enjoying the Z6ii right now.
Hello! Can you make a video of this lens 24-70 f4 in night photography/low light..thanks!
I’ve been thinking of doing a low light video!
@@lukewtcleland pls include low light photography..much appreciated! 🥰🙏
I had this lens and sold it. The 2.8 S is better in much the same way as the 50 1.2 is superior to the1.8. I did end up with the 24-120 as my EDC kit.
What’s wrong with and F.4 lens?
Nothings wrong with an f/4 lens, it just a lot slower than the 2.8 lens. And if you shoot in low light that can be a big deal.
I've got the 35,50 and 85 plus the 24-70 f4.. I kinda want the 2.8 because when it gets a bit low light im hitting ISO 10000 a place i dont really wanna be.. BUT that price difference is huge and i technically have primes that cover most of the range.
I'm also worried if i get the 24-70 2.8 it will make most of my primes feel like a purchase i didnt need to make.
Oh that's a great set up. Totally, it's not great in low light for sure. I just use my F4 in daylight or with flash, so I don't really come across that issue.
That's true. But honestly, I think you'll just take way better photos if you use the primes instead. There's something about not thinking about zooming, that makes you more focused on the photo, and the moment in front of you IMO.
crazy expensive lenses with bad f stops :( Why not just use the adapter and use DSLR lenses ?
Once you use the Z series on a mirrorless body, it's hard to go back. And this comes from someone who swore I would use a DSLR camera and body forever. ha.
The paradox of choice.
So the honest truth is that the 2.8 is better but it’s extra cost doesn’t match the extra performance gained from the extra stops. Is the 2.8 sharper than the f4? Yes, but barely. If I had to put it in percentages, it’s like 2 to 3 percent sharper. To the untrained eye it is almost unnoticeable, so the extra cost and weight comes down to the 1 lower stop. F2.8 will give you better low light performance, but with the savings your getting with the f4 this opens you up to a second lens like a fast prime. The 35mm and the 50mm F1.8 lenses on average go for 500 to 700 dollars which is still cheaper than extra money for the F2.8 and they offer better low light performance and bokeh. I find the 24-70mm f2.8 a great lens but the F4 is good enough and anytime you can save money and roll that savings into more glass that’s a win in my book.
Love the overview! Great thoughts
In my country there is a difference of more than $2000 😢
Wow!
Let's be realistic: it comes down to budget. Because guess what? An f/2.8 lens can also shoot at f/4, but an f/4 lens can never shoot at f/2.8 lol. For example, that wide church interior you showed could easily be shot at 2.8 at a lower ISO (say 3200 instead of 6400) since you don't need to be at f/4 or f/5.6 for a shot like that.
heavy also. 3200 and 6400 is not that much with current iso perf