It's like now when rappers get killed, people mourn for a few weeks and then go right back to the norm. But I remember when Pac and Big got killed, it's like hip hop stopped. And the impact is still being felt. For those of us who remember, we still get chills. Shit crazy
Being from Cali and living there when Pac died it felt like the state / earth mourned him the sky was red and the day was just off when biggie was killed it was a different energy it seemed like a different air about things but the sad truth is everyone had pretty much understood who killed Pac it just wasn’t spoken about or mentioned it was like a embarrassing but sad reality of the Cali politics
Oh so true!! My daughter had an episode like that at a small club a few years ago. She had a bad feeling and wanted to leave. After she left a young man was shot and killed that night. I think he was only 17 years old😢
Big was really dumb calling the streets against Death Row during the New York New York video shoot and expecting no retaliation in the west considering the nasty relations between puff and suge...
Well tuapc wanted to be hood do stupid shit to get himself in these type of situations u go jump a well know killer from a hood and tell me if u survive pac was never that hood smart and thats what happen got smoke dby baby lane
@@jonathangonzalez2666 Biggie situation was even worse in my opinion because he didn't put his hands on anyone, he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and a victim by association.
No matter how many times I hear about that fatal night in Vegas or LA it sounds worst and worst every time...March 9th and Sept 13th two biggest days in hip hop history
@@ShawnDemarcoEntertainmentyou're right. Shot on 7th and died six days later on the 13th. But I get the point. Two different days when one of the greatest, Biggie, died and when the greatest, Pac, died.
Many ppl influenced and mentor big from the jazz musician to Summers in jamaica with his DJ/selector uncle . Even his best friend d_roc to even puff. There were many that played father figure in his life
Crazy how everyone and their momma can recognize Biggie should not have been out there at that time, except Puffy. How do you not realize that it’s a bad idea to have your artist in that kind of danger…
Puffy knew what he was doing. No coincidence Biggie's 1st album is called Ready to Die and then the 2nd is called Life after Death. It was never Puffy's plan to have Biggie around long term.
@@targetegrat I believe that with all of my heart, mind and soul! To this DAY Puffy is still unbothered and wickedly self centered while Mrs. Wallace STILL grieves and fights for her ONLY son’s legacy! Damn shame but Karma WILL get it’s reward from everyone involved in the assassinations of those young men! #stillhurts 😢🕊️🕊️💔#RIPPacandBig #TheBestestEver
It was a dark time when all that went down. Death back in the day was a shock when people who are major stars get gun down. People heard of gang violence in LA they even made a movie Colors. So seeing Pac get killed and then BiG get killed was scary to be famous and someone wanted you dead.
Yep I was 16 year old. Back then it was tough hard-core. I was ready to fight when anyone say negative about 2pac. That's how our youth years was involving 2pac & Biggie
This is a classic example of sometimes we really don't have friends. Young people, no not just young people, everyone trust no one. Becareful who you let into your life. And sometimes they send them to you, and you won't even see it coming. So just another cold lesson in life. . Rest in peace Pac and Biggie.
Happy somebody finally said it.... Biggie should not have been in L.A. it was way too soon.. and celebrating a new album. People were still morning PAC... Biggie had the wrong people advising him and he went against common sense... especially naming the Album "Life after Death".. that sounded like a diss to 2PAC
@jack crain TRUTH. I’ll take the risk of trusting people until they let me down. I’d rather live my life knowing I give ppl chances and that it’s on them if they lie, cheat, steal, etc. This mentality of not trusting people is too negative and exhausting. Plus, you’ll miss out on some genuinely good people. I used to be that way but it’s not worth it for me. Now I’m not a dummy and don’t just believe everything people say lol but when it comes down to it that trust nobody mentality is way too negative for me. And I’ve been fucked over so many times but it is what it is. Gotta weed out the real from the fake.
It's crazy to me how young Pac and Biggie was when they were killed, but to have so much going on around them, made them drop their guard, man, talk about living the fast life. RIP 2Pac & Biggie
That’s point that’s how you know diddy is a snake you think puffy of all people don’t know that it was wrong to send bigge to la puffy is a grimey dude an he had to listen to diddy until he left the contract so he had no choice
i was gonna say the same thing. even jay, jay said he spoke to him on the phone. irv gotti was on the phone with jay and handed the phone to big. i guess its normal cos it was a huge party, but still, cos of the aftermath its a little airy
When, I say he is so on point about this. How LA really died after that major tragedy. LA was never been the same. And really never had the same strong vibe. The energy in the clubs on Hollywood Blvd or Sunset Blvd or Downtown LA was never the same.
Man big FACTS!! Goodie Mob was plug in with a lot of people in the industry, PAC loved them because of their messages in they music. Their music contains to all what happening today. Goodie Mob could have been big, but they wasn't no sale outs. Outkast wasn't sale outs either but them just being so different made themselves industry
@@jonathancoleman6482 people still don't get it. BIG AND Pac's death was over crips and bloods because the crips wanted Suge dead and Suge wanted Diddy dead. BIG should've never been in LA that soon. Diddy sacrificed BIG.....
LA CITY 🏙️ IS THE SHIT… However referring To The Music 🎼 scene, Clubbing, The Vibrant City it once Was… The SUGE Knight Era… Yes 👏🏿 it did Die With B.I.G. No Winners. It Never recovered. The Game Tried to bring The west Back to glory but Nah…
So sad looking at these interviews with different artists giving their account of that night too many people was telling big to leave. Keith murry said tge same thing when big asked him should he go ti Europe
After Pac and BIG's death the industry and fans were just tired of the 'Beef' and in that void Master P and No Limit records came to power and after their huge success next thing you know the south just basically took over hip hop.
No the South didn't just take over hip hop because then came 50 Cent and the Dipset movement plus you still had Canibus, Pun, and The Roots coming in. Also, Common and Em became big after that time too.
@@hitek9too255 you a preteen talking about shit before your time take a seat chump. Your timeline don’t even make sense leave this shit to the people who experienced not what you researched on google fuck boy.
both them dudes was in their mid twenties. Jay didn't drop Blueprint until he was 31. imagine BIG and Pac with another six or seven years in the game smh. that's why it's such a joke to me that people call Jay the GOAT.....
@@dawb86 jay had 3 2 critically acclaimed albums 3-4 years before blueprint was even thought of he also did 5 mil and won a Grammy 3 years before blueprint was ever thought of the crazy part is y’all shit on jay when him and big woulda been side by side “The Commission”
I'm a Biggie fan (from the UK), but I also rate Pac highly too. The radio announcement of Pacs death (around 3am) triggered my subconscious mind and woke me up out of my sleep and left me feeling crazy emotions. It was a dark day for hip hop globally. Then, almost a year later...same announcement with Biggie! That's when I knew, losing two of the best... hip hop would never be the same...and it sure wasn't!
I felt the same way when Pac died it was like I lost a big brother and when Biggie died was like losing a best friend....and hip hop has never been the same.... even after Master p took over
No disrespect but 2Pac taught Big the game. Both of these men are very talented and shouldn’t have went out the way they did. Mr Wallace a father and Mr Shakur a father to a lot boys, girls , and men that didn’t have a father. People looked up to Mr Shakur. Children today still sing his music in the streets during the George Floyd riots… it blew my mind that these kids today love 2pac…
DJ Quik new the same dirty cop that killed Tupac was going to kill Biggie on 9 March 1997 and DJ Quik was happy two of the biggest artist where being killed so other artists can come through and DJ Quik thought he could take Tupac and Biggie crowns 👑 👑 as kings of the game !!!!
Dj Quik was arguing with Biggie that week he died and was affiliated with suge. That why everyone was pointing at dj quik cause it clearly linked it to suge.
DJ quik, 2nd to None and everybody that was in Suga Free Video STAY READY...THEY WENT TO THE VIBE PARTY AFTER THE VIDEO SHOOT... DJ QUIK BODYGUARDS AND 2ND TO NONE WAS IN FRONT OF THE VIBE PARTY WATCHING BIGGIE
Reason why I never believed that pac westcoast bs. He was not from here and would have eventually turned on us like ue did to NY after breaking up with suge if he lived.
@@jeromelosangels3238 Yeah, its funny. I think Pac was in L.A. for less than 18 months and niggas out there were acting like he carried the flag for them, like they'd die for the nigga. Made no sense and made them seem gullible and without a real identity at the time. The Suge Knight break up was coming, everybody could see that. Those LA murders did irreparable harm to hip hop and none of those dudes were even from out there...
Right, LA had no representation, meanwhile Tupac was throwing up the W, for West Side. Delusional New Yorkers. Even without Tupac, they still had Eazy, Dre, Cube, Coolio, WC.
Biggie was going be like what Jay is doing right now. Major conglomerate in this hip hop game which has conquered every continent. 💯 "Climb the ladder to success escalator style" BIG
@@JohnKing-jz9zb you talking like you know them.. better yet like you know anybody that knows them and they know you. NO YOU DONT!!! Hell.. nobody on this feed knows you either and nobody wants to! Shut up clown 🤡. You sound like a damn male groupie 😂😂😂😂
nothing against Big but big didn’t put out alot of conscious music like Pac..Pac would of made a bigger impact because o think after he would of got these suckers like Puffy out the way he would of started a vlk political party to help empower blk folks
@@fruitpac there would be no Jay in pac was still alive. Pac talent far exceeded that of Jay. We talking about rapping, movies, directing, producing etc etc.
Hearing all of these recaps about that time from the 90s Hip-Hop alumni after all those years is heartbreaking. A lot of artists and actors seem to have survivors remorse. Having many years to mature, marry, raise families and wisely reflect shows the pain that these people have now realize they hold. Two young men (among countless others) lost their lives over nothing.
2Pac and Biggie was way ahead of their time. That Era of music was the best EVER! That was real rap. They are turning over in their Graves right now about today's music. And I still say till this day. Half these people making music wouldn't even be known if they was here. Pac said himself when he dies his music will still be hitting!
For Big it's sad in the sense, as someone from the Caribbean you are always told, "nah follow friend', and this is one of the main reasons Big got killed😪
@@trapmuzik6708 Furthermore stop with the fuckery! What good is making anyone rich, if them dead? What kind of mentality you ah work with brother? Yo! More Fire 🔥 for them talk you ah talk😡🔥 What kind of mentor takes you into them situations when you don't have to be there? It's a typical example of how certain friend will get you into some shit 💩! I'm not sure of your age but that album was gonna buss big💥💥💥 even if Biggie never promoted the album fully, and he definitely did not need to go to LA!💯 in that climate😒 Back then if the music was at a certain standard/quality, it promoted its self and people would go and buy it based on how it sounded, not just based on hype, views and likes, very much different than today's mentality, which has people moving mad🤯 and chatting fuckery like you!😤 Regardless if you like Puff or not, he failed to protect his friend or from a business perspective, his biggest asset💰 since you wanna talk bout he made him rich🤨 Really!? Move your self with them talk there!😠
U know pac had songs he let people here and its videos on CZcams that never was officially released. And we only know about them because of the makavelli leaks.
Pac was actually an Actor first, that rap stuff was second. After Pac did the movie *Gang Related,* Pac was supposed to play the role *Jedi Master Mace Windu* in *Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace.* 2Pac was also gonna play the role *Captain Steven Hiller* in *Independence Day (ID4 1996)* but bc Pac got killed, they gave Jedi to Samuel L Jackson & Captain Steven to Will Smith. It's sad we didn't get to see him be the face of Hollywood. He was about to blow & be much bigger than just his rap career.
I've heard a lot of accounts of what took place but this was probably the realest way I've ever heard it. Just a real shame we lost these two brothers.
Suge Knight blind self is punching the air right now knowing what he did to Biggie and Terry Carter and will never see survive to see parole. Hip hop greatest Karma.
What does telling everyone “ I’m from NY “ before saying Gipp deserves his flowers suppose to mean? Big deal! Who cares your from NY? So what!! Nobody knows you here
@@I_be_e That jus pissed you off huh! Might not be your cup of tea but Live n Let Live my man. Somebody's comment on where they from or what they do shouldn't get to you like that, and if it does thats a "YOU" problem.
frfr, think it's cause he gave more context on the things that was really going on, like them shooting up Guru car. That's what put it into perspective for me.
We still gotta remember pac and biggie was only 25 years old, which is crazy cuz you would of thought they was older. But biggie was definitely playing with fire by coming to LA at that time. Especially him not knowing the LA politics.
When you hear stories about PAC and Biggie no matter how many times you hear them just know that’s how real shyt was when these two people existed in hip hop. Shyt was real. If you said something out of pocket on Monday yo’a$$ was gon get checked by Tuesday. Catch my drift?…
I wanna hear a interview from D rock biggie's homeboy or the driver to the suv big was in, cause we haven't hear nothing from him ever. If Art of dialogue can get them up here it will be something new.
D-rock works for puff, as a bodyguard. I saw a picture of them together at a costume party, dressed as Prince and Company. So I doubt he's going to give a testimony. He's on the payroll.
driver had to be in on it or know why not drive away or anything just sits there bullets fly or think he jumped out of car and on diddys part gene says run the lights or puffy does why would u even do that if u didn’t know somthing was going too or gonna happen so just suss af diddy set that sht up wanting his money from big since he was planning on leaving bad boy
back then album were already pressed and folks had copies of they own shit letting magazines and other artists sneak listen before the LABEL put it out
I remember after Big passed LA and really Westcoast music scene just seemed like a turn off. Tbh TV shows, Cube movies and the Lakers seemed like the only positive things from LA. Besides that the vibes were shady and grim. Glad it picked up🙏🏾
that was really the only thing that made the west start dropping off in popularity. it would still be a few years before the south came in and took over but after that like you said, people kind of turned away from all the blood/crip stuff in the music. how ironic that all these years later we ended up with the Wayne's, Cardi's, 6ix9ines and everybody else bringing all that stuff back in smh.....
Ain’t nothing changed wit LA. Look at Nipsey n PNB Rock. That’s a dark city to be in if you’re in the streets. Better off going to Disneyland and the tourist sites.
Honest even though many years had passed since they both been gone you just think damn it's so messed up how from 1994-1997 a lot of crazy things happened to them. It's unfortunate that they were young and got killed .Still till this day i still feel the pain from hearing how they both got killed.
Alot of New Yorkers & Up North people love 2 Pac too.. It was mainly the New York Rappers that tried to team up & go against Pac but Pac wasn't even mad at all of New York Rappers, alot of them was just haters & jealous of Pac
All those cats in Goodie Mob - good people. Non thugs, just musicians and good hearts. Southern. Raised well. You will never see any of them ever have any problems like this.
@@quentinsimpson5908 We can’t factually say Quik was involved but he I’m sure he was aware. It wasn’t a secret that certain people were out lurking around LA waiting for the perfect chance to kill someone from Bad Boy.
@@morganwingo he was humble, he had a pure heart for real and cared about the people for sure. I hugged this man…. We had no phones back then so i only have my memory of him.
Never forget the west coast took BOTH of them out. Pac ain't get smoked on the east. The industry said later for you west coast ninjas. If they wasn't affiliated with Dre they didn't get no light out there. I often wonder what 2Pac's response would be if Biggie went out first. He had a lot of hardcore things to say about Biggie so where do you go after that? Would the expectation be that he would all of a sudden have good things to say about him? Biggie was the most famous out of all his targets. It's like literally what do you do from there? Saying all that why would the expectation be of Biggie to say anything remotely good about Pac after his demise? It's an unfortunate situation that both these men's lives had to come to an end in that manner. I don't think Hip Hop has recovered from both to be honest.
Great comment. Its just that Biggie and Puff was in Pacs Backyard. I do understand Biggie staying quiet though after all that drama, It just was not wise to go to LA. I think if Big would have passed 1st Pac nem wouldnt be in New York without expecting some kind of violence..
I always wondered what made Puffy and BIG think they could be in LA talking about I'm going back to Cali 6 months after Pac got killed... it was so obviously gonna be considered disrespectful.
Yes they did FOI HAS ALOT OF ROGUE PEOPLE IN IT I HAD A EX MANAGER THAT USED TO WORK FOR DIDDY STILL DO AND HE TRIED TO BLOOD SACRAFICE ME I SURVIVED NOW HE'S LOOKING AT YEARS WITHOUT SEEING THE SUN JUST LIKE DIDDY NOW HE WANTS TO TALK AND MAKE THINGS RIGHT NO DEAL I WANT THEM BEHIND BARS THEY DESTROYED A GENERATION BEHIND FOOLISHNESS AFTER BIGGIE AND 2PAC THEY STILL ON DUM SHIT.
Big was hurt and probably knew Puffy had a hand in 2Pac's killing. I miss both 2Pac and Biggie, rap would be soooooo much better of they in their 50s were still rapping.
It's like now when rappers get killed, people mourn for a few weeks and then go right back to the norm. But I remember when Pac and Big got killed, it's like hip hop stopped. And the impact is still being felt. For those of us who remember, we still get chills. Shit crazy
LIVE BY THE SWORD DIE BY THE SWORD
But that puff daddy and the family wave came thru.
Being from Cali and living there when Pac died it felt like the state / earth mourned him the sky was red and the day was just off when biggie was killed it was a different energy it seemed like a different air about things but the sad truth is everyone had pretty much understood who killed Pac it just wasn’t spoken about or mentioned it was like a embarrassing but sad reality of the Cali politics
I was 17 when pac died and 18 when BIG died 😢
@@dewaynejay1032 I was 16 when Pac died, 17 when Biggie died.
Puffy ego got Big killed...no way in hell they should have been in California that soon
I agree it wasn't even a year before they went out there
Everybody said that at the time. Like literally before BIG got killed.
Exactly
But the street intuition in Big should’ve let him know to realize that even if he made it out of Cali alive, it wasn’t gonna be without a scratch
It was suge mob not puffy . Shoot some of suge ppl were around biggie
It was nothing like the 90s , it was a different time. I was 17 when Biggie got killed. That Era in HipHop was serious, but the music was outstanding.
16 here, I feel u
Outstanding indeed!💯
I was 4 he died a month before my birthday...even though I wasn't fully aware around that time, I love that Era the most
Facts! 💯💯💯
I was 16… wild time
Whenever you have a bad feeling about being somewhere then it's time to leave.
Yep. Those gut instincts will save your life.
@@exposefamily…You got that right!!
Oh so true!! My daughter had an episode like that at a small club a few years ago. She had a bad feeling and wanted to leave. After she left a young man was shot and killed that night. I think he was only 17 years old😢
Yes
Big was really dumb calling the streets against Death Row during the New York New York video shoot and expecting no retaliation in the west considering the nasty relations between puff and suge...
20 odd years later and it's still a sad story.
Lol it’s 30 years bra - unbelievable aye!!
And still the weirdest story about biggie
Well tuapc wanted to be hood do stupid shit to get himself in these type of situations u go jump a well know killer from a hood and tell me if u survive pac was never that hood smart and thats what happen got smoke dby baby lane
@@muaythaisaro3175 Learn how to spell boy before you talk to me.
@@jonathangonzalez2666 Biggie situation was even worse in my opinion because he didn't put his hands on anyone, he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and a victim by association.
No matter how many times I hear about that fatal night in Vegas or LA
it sounds worst and worst every time...March 9th and Sept 13th two biggest days in hip hop history
Sep 7th really
@@ShawnDemarcoEntertainmentyou're right. Shot on 7th and died six days later on the 13th. But I get the point. Two different days when one of the greatest, Biggie, died and when the greatest, Pac, died.
Pac was the biggest studio gangster tht deserved it coming
@@terrancerobinson20 either way, pac was turned into fish food before the month was up lol
@@lmiko get a life clown 😂
Even tho 2pac has been gone he still touch many people's heart. He is the influence rapper, poet, and legend.
He also created B.I.G. he mentored him and even gave him the name The Notorious B.I.G.
PAC Forever The Goat Long Live Makaveli Da Don
@@WHITELIONNYC that’s bull shit
😂😂😂😂
Many ppl influenced and mentor big from the jazz musician to
Summers in jamaica with his DJ/selector uncle . Even his best friend d_roc to even puff. There were many that played father figure in his life
Crazy how everyone and their momma can recognize Biggie should not have been out there at that time, except Puffy. How do you not realize that it’s a bad idea to have your artist in that kind of danger…
Because he did realize it. 🤔
Puffy knew what he was doing. No coincidence Biggie's 1st album is called Ready to Die and then the 2nd is called Life after Death. It was never Puffy's plan to have Biggie around long term.
@@targetegrat I believe that with all of my heart, mind and soul! To this DAY Puffy is still unbothered and wickedly self centered while Mrs. Wallace STILL grieves and fights for her ONLY son’s legacy! Damn shame but Karma WILL get it’s reward from everyone involved in the assassinations of those young men!
#stillhurts 😢🕊️🕊️💔#RIPPacandBig
#TheBestestEver
Because he didn't gaf. And then lots of money 'mourning.'
Diddy is a billionaire, which means he's calculated. It was all intentional and he had a lot of help.
Biggie should have just went to Paris or wherever he was going to promote Life after Death , but puff couldn’t just let him do his thing
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Or daddy's house studio in New York
He was meant to be in London
Them Paris UK Illuminati mfs probably smoked him for NOT coming 🤔
Nah he should've lay low till all that shit calm down
It’s crazy how 2pac and biggie still get talked about after so many years it was like you had to be there
The wildest time !
It was a dark time when all that went down. Death back in the day was a shock when people who are major stars get gun down. People heard of gang violence in LA they even made a movie Colors. So seeing Pac get killed and then BiG get killed was scary to be famous and someone wanted you dead.
That's why there forever top 5
Yep I was 16 year old. Back then it was tough hard-core. I was ready to fight when anyone say negative about 2pac. That's how our youth years was involving 2pac & Biggie
Biggie only gets talked about cuz it's negative.
This is a classic example of sometimes we really don't have friends. Young people, no not just young people, everyone trust no one. Becareful who you let into your life. And sometimes they send them to you, and you won't even see it coming. So just another cold lesson in life. . Rest in peace Pac and Biggie.
Couldn't have says it better 🫡
Damn. 👍😢
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Happy somebody finally said it.... Biggie should not have been in L.A. it was way too soon.. and celebrating a new album. People were still morning PAC... Biggie had the wrong people advising him and he went against common sense... especially naming the Album "Life after Death".. that sounded like a diss to 2PAC
@jack crain TRUTH. I’ll take the risk of trusting people until they let me down. I’d rather live my life knowing I give ppl chances and that it’s on them if they lie, cheat, steal, etc. This mentality of not trusting people is too negative and exhausting. Plus, you’ll miss out on some genuinely good people. I used to be that way but it’s not worth it for me. Now I’m not a dummy and don’t just believe everything people say lol but when it comes down to it that trust nobody mentality is way too negative for me. And I’ve been fucked over so many times but it is what it is. Gotta weed out the real from the fake.
It's crazy to me how young Pac and Biggie was when they were killed, but to have so much going on around them, made them drop their guard, man, talk about living the fast life. RIP 2Pac & Biggie
They both walked into something they had no business being involved with.
That’s point that’s how you know diddy is a snake you think puffy of all people don’t know that it was wrong to send bigge to la puffy is a grimey dude an he had to listen to diddy until he left the contract so he had no choice
Not crazy considering lil Jojo.
Rip PAC no Piggy
Imagine if they squashed that shit and lived! Smh
Amazing how many people just spoke to Big before he died
They was all at the party so the main stream artist at the time all spoke to him right b4 he died
God was trying to let people know
i was gonna say the same thing. even jay, jay said he spoke to him on the phone. irv gotti was on the phone with jay and handed the phone to big. i guess its normal cos it was a huge party, but still, cos of the aftermath its a little airy
Yeah, I was thinking that, too.
Dude that’s mathematically impossible. Honestly. I thought the same thing. The bro would never left the venue. I don’t know
Man lived through it and his insight about how it happened is the best I’ve ever seen. Rip to the legends pac n biggie
That’s that southern shit
Puffy knew someone had to die and he damn sure knew it weren't gonna be him
Anyone around puffy got fucked. That nigga evil
He had Biggie murdered because he was offered more money by another company before Smalls death in 1997
P Diddy can't be trusted
@@amanithurman1274he told biggie it wasn’t a good idea to go down there but Big pushed
@@moregainsmorehs yep p Diddy get punch in the face all the time when it comes to bullshit
When, I say he is so on point about this. How LA really died after that major tragedy. LA was never been the same. And really never had the same strong vibe. The energy in the clubs on Hollywood Blvd or Sunset Blvd or Downtown LA was never the same.
Damn did you think if biggie was a little more sincere about pacs death that they still would of got him?
Man big FACTS!! Goodie Mob was plug in with a lot of people in the industry, PAC loved them because of their messages in they music. Their music contains to all what happening today. Goodie Mob could have been big, but they wasn't no sale outs. Outkast wasn't sale outs either but them just being so different made themselves industry
@@jonathancoleman6482 people still don't get it. BIG AND Pac's death was over crips and bloods because the crips wanted Suge dead and Suge wanted Diddy dead. BIG should've never been in LA that soon. Diddy sacrificed BIG.....
LA CITY 🏙️ IS THE SHIT… However referring To The Music 🎼 scene, Clubbing, The Vibrant City it once Was… The SUGE Knight Era… Yes 👏🏿 it did Die With B.I.G. No Winners. It Never recovered. The Game Tried to bring The west Back to glory but Nah…
@@jonathancoleman6482 Yes ! Biggie wanted to fix things. But Big was under bad leadership.
So sad looking at these interviews with different artists giving their account of that night too many people was telling big to leave. Keith murry said tge same thing when big asked him should he go ti Europe
After Pac and BIG's death the industry and fans were just tired of the 'Beef' and in that void Master P and No Limit records came to power and after their huge success next thing you know the south just basically took over hip hop.
Thank God Master P came in because puffy thought he was gonna take it with hot 97 as his personal mouthpiece
No the South didn't just take over hip hop because then came 50 Cent and the Dipset movement plus you still had Canibus, Pun, and The Roots coming in. Also, Common and Em became big after that time too.
@@hitek9too255 fam shut up you sound like an idiot
@@2ruehenderson Emotional dude raised by a single mother. Go look up the sound scans and billboards during that time period.
@@hitek9too255 you a preteen talking about shit before your time take a seat chump. Your timeline don’t even make sense leave this shit to the people who experienced not what you researched on google fuck boy.
Biggie was about to blow up even more in ‘97. It would’ve been dope to see him performing his hits from Life After Death at the VMas or Grammys.
both them dudes was in their mid twenties. Jay didn't drop Blueprint until he was 31. imagine BIG and Pac with another six or seven years in the game smh. that's why it's such a joke to me that people call Jay the GOAT.....
@@dawb86facts I agree with you bro
@dawb86 why you gotta bring Jay up 🙄🙄...Jay was gone blow regardless. And I love how you skipped over reasonable doubt like that don't exist
@@sims4610593 reasonable doubt is mid bro Ironman by Ghostface in 1996 is way better than Jay Z debut.
@@dawb86 jay had 3 2 critically acclaimed albums 3-4 years before blueprint was even thought of he also did 5 mil and won a Grammy 3 years before blueprint was ever thought of the crazy part is y’all shit on jay when him and big woulda been side by side “The Commission”
I'm a Biggie fan (from the UK), but I also rate Pac highly too. The radio announcement of Pacs death (around 3am) triggered my subconscious mind and woke me up out of my sleep and left me feeling crazy emotions. It was a dark day for hip hop globally. Then, almost a year later...same announcement with Biggie! That's when I knew, losing two of the best... hip hop would never be the same...and it sure wasn't!
Almost a year? It was 6 months
@@terry8046 Thanks 👌🏾
I felt the same way when Pac died it was like I lost a big brother and when Biggie died was like losing a best friend....and hip hop has never been the same.... even after Master p took over
@@JourneywithJesus14367 That's really bro. The energy was crazy hearing the news of both deaths 😪
No disrespect but 2Pac taught Big the game. Both of these men are very talented and shouldn’t have went out the way they did. Mr Wallace a father and Mr Shakur a father to a lot boys, girls , and men that didn’t have a father. People looked up to Mr Shakur. Children today still sing his music in the streets during the George Floyd riots… it blew my mind that these kids today love 2pac…
Rip biggie my mom was born on march 9th ❤❤❤🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 rip both
AZ and Bow Wow born on that date too
My momma birthday March 9th too bro...lol shoutout to ma dukes n them💯
She was born on the day Big died?? That would make her like 25 now. How old are you?????
He's right. LA hip hop was in critical condition right after big and pac passed.
The Game did make it hot again.but it took 8 yrs
2001 and that last meal saved the west coast in the early 2000's.
Snoop and Dre made the west coast hot again before people even knew who The Game was...@@Loch1210
Dj quik was trolling Biggie before he died. Suge was given him orders to pressure Biggie.
DJ Quik new the same dirty cop that killed Tupac was going to kill Biggie on 9 March 1997 and DJ Quik was happy two of the biggest artist where being killed so other artists can come through and DJ Quik thought he could take Tupac and Biggie crowns 👑 👑 as kings of the game !!!!
How ? What He did ?
Gipp the definition of a "Real One" and that's FACTS!👑
Dj Quik was arguing with Biggie that week he died and was affiliated with suge. That why everyone was pointing at dj quik cause it clearly linked it to suge.
DJ quik, 2nd to None and everybody that was in Suga Free Video STAY READY...THEY WENT TO THE VIBE PARTY AFTER THE VIDEO SHOOT... DJ QUIK BODYGUARDS AND 2ND TO NONE WAS IN FRONT OF THE VIBE PARTY WATCHING BIGGIE
DJ Quick was a Blood but he wasn’t active like that Fam.. SUGE use to treat him like a b*tch!! Don’t believe the hype
@@esimpson31828 he was a follower and suge was sending messages to that clown.
@@esimpson31828 His Security Guards was Gang Members.. Gonzelli
@@jeromelosangels3238 Quik went on the Run after Biggie got killed and they used DJ quik impala..
Pac from NY/BIG from NY. L.A. had no representation there. Everybody saw that but them.l ol
Reason why I never believed that pac westcoast bs. He was not from here and would have eventually turned on us like ue did to NY after breaking up with suge if he lived.
@@jeromelosangels3238 Yeah, its funny. I think Pac was in L.A. for less than 18 months and niggas out there were acting like he carried the flag for them, like they'd die for the nigga. Made no sense and made them seem gullible and without a real identity at the time. The Suge Knight break up was coming, everybody could see that. Those LA murders did irreparable harm to hip hop and none of those dudes were even from out there...
Right, LA had no representation, meanwhile
Tupac was throwing up the W,
for West Side.
Delusional New Yorkers.
Even without Tupac, they still had Eazy, Dre, Cube, Coolio, WC.
@@C-Lyfe85 Pac chose his side and died a soldier. What's your stance?
@@babasillah5396
What is my stance supposed to be? I didn't know I was involved in the war.
In the blink of an eye. Thats y we must stay prayed up
You be everywhere 😂
Biggie was going be like what Jay is doing right now. Major conglomerate in this hip hop game which has conquered every continent. 💯 "Climb the ladder to success escalator style" BIG
Don’t compare jayz to biggie. No comparison.
@@swayk3891 you bugging Bozo.. jayz and biggie was just alike and was about to start they own group called the commission
@@JohnKing-jz9zb man you sound dumb ain't no comparison u clown
@@gcode2010 go suck jayz dick clown.. even biggie told lil cease he think jayz was better then him Bozo 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@JohnKing-jz9zb you talking like you know them.. better yet like you know anybody that knows them and they know you. NO YOU DONT!!! Hell.. nobody on this feed knows you either and nobody wants to! Shut up clown 🤡. You sound like a damn male groupie 😂😂😂😂
Imagine what hip hop would be like if big would've survived especially with pac
nothing against Big but big didn’t put out alot of conscious music like Pac..Pac would of made a bigger impact because o think after he would of got these suckers like Puffy out the way he would of started a vlk political party to help empower blk folks
@@fruitpac you jayz gayboys need to shut up and admit jay z is only famous because he can slam dunk with his lips
@@fruitpac there would be no Jay in pac was still alive. Pac talent far exceeded that of Jay. We talking about rapping, movies, directing, producing etc etc.
@Mike Oxlong Pac made those kind of songs too
@@fruitpacyo fruity lame ass keep making new accounts huh Pizza 🍕 Delivery 🚚 boy! You gonna get what you deserve cupcake!!
Hearing all of these recaps about that time from the 90s Hip-Hop alumni after all those years is heartbreaking. A lot of artists and actors seem to have survivors remorse. Having many years to mature, marry, raise families and wisely reflect shows the pain that these people have now realize they hold. Two young men (among countless others) lost their lives over nothing.
Damn I never thought about it like that…. u definitely right
2Pac and Biggie was way ahead of their time. That Era of music was the best EVER! That was real rap. They are turning over in their Graves right now about today's music. And I still say till this day. Half these people making music wouldn't even be known if they was here. Pac said himself when he dies his music will still be hitting!
Two New York City born and raised rappers. The best to ever do it.
@@dee65cee53 FACTS
Say what you want but pac got his game from the Bay Area
@@lossiiburns I agree
I didn't get that out of the conversation 🤷🏿♂️ even though the tittle says it 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️!!!!
These are the dudes you get the truth from bcuz they got nothing to win or lose,, some ppl ain't going to say one bad word bout puff or jay z
For Big it's sad in the sense, as someone from the Caribbean you are always told, "nah follow friend', and this is one of the main reasons Big got killed😪
Dont follow your friend
Puffy was more than a friend he was his mentor/boss made him a rich man his words carry a lot of weight
@@trapmuzik6708 Whatever you say😒
@TheGnrjak When my grandmother used to say it, she meant, "certain friends will lead you into trouble or worse!".
Rest Easy Nanny ❤🙏🏽🕊
@@trapmuzik6708 Furthermore stop with the fuckery! What good is making anyone rich, if them dead? What kind of mentality you ah work with brother?
Yo! More Fire 🔥 for them talk you ah talk😡🔥
What kind of mentor takes you into them situations when you don't have to be there? It's a typical example of how certain friend will get you into some shit 💩!
I'm not sure of your age but that album was gonna buss big💥💥💥 even if Biggie never promoted the album fully, and he definitely did not need to go to LA!💯 in that climate😒
Back then if the music was at a certain standard/quality, it promoted its self and people would go and buy it based on how it sounded, not just based on hype, views and likes, very much different than today's mentality, which has people moving mad🤯 and chatting fuckery like you!😤
Regardless if you like Puff or not, he failed to protect his friend or from a business perspective, his biggest asset💰 since you wanna talk bout he made him rich🤨 Really!? Move your self with them talk there!😠
That's why I could never understand Diddy reasoning for taking biggie to California when he knew he was Marked for Death over there
He wanted him dead, it's very simple.
His face when he said dey up in here.....chills....death was on the set
Def peep that lingo....
He got discernment! Shoutout to Gipp!
It shows how much people loved Biggie and how many people he touched it's been nearly 25 years and he is still missed and loved. that is amazing
Bra this channel is mostly about the goat 2pac, what are you talking about?
@@harrellwilliams5010 the topic was big though not pac
@@keezdahalfpint1408 The topic was them celebrating PACs death, so its about PAC still
💯 corrected, u right
@@Straight-Outta-Nottingham I felt you telling on that one bro 💯
Goodie Mob “Still Standing” album - Recorded
July 1997 - February 1998. Biggie died March 9, 1997.
U do know that some artist keep some songs in the vault?
Not only that, but they were cool with Bad Boy and Death Row. So it's likely that they were showing each other tracks were going to make the album
U know pac had songs he let people here and its videos on CZcams that never was officially released. And we only know about them because of the makavelli leaks.
Yea when did Black Ice come out?
@@hitek9too255 It released on " Still Standing" LP in 98' technically, but they recorded it back in 97'
I think if pac was alive he would have been a very big movie star..
Bigger than Cube and Will Smith much respect to them
Pac was actually an Actor first, that rap stuff was second. After Pac did the movie *Gang Related,* Pac was supposed to play the role *Jedi Master Mace Windu* in *Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace.* 2Pac was also gonna play the role *Captain Steven Hiller* in *Independence Day (ID4 1996)* but bc Pac got killed, they gave Jedi to Samuel L Jackson & Captain Steven to Will Smith. It's sad we didn't get to see him be the face of Hollywood. He was about to blow & be much bigger than just his rap career.
Probably would a been on ''the wire"
@@yeathatsright369that’s an amazing thought, damn.
@@TillsRojas7 right , would have even better
Going on the radio in LA a spitting a verse from Long Kiss Goodnight was rubbing salt in the wounds
His energy is so genuine ❤️🙏🏾
Yea he doesn't come off as a hater or liar like some people trying say....
Just wish i could understand what he’s saying 50% of the time lol
@@Sorcerers_Apprentice_11 😂😂😂
This guy gives the best version of this story.
I've heard a lot of accounts of what took place but this was probably the realest way I've ever heard it. Just a real shame we lost these two brothers.
The craziest thing about all of this is PAC and Biggie were friends at one point
Suge Knight blind self is punching the air right now knowing what he did to Biggie and Terry Carter and will never see survive to see parole. Hip hop greatest Karma.
Bruh I see you don't know the full details behind those incidents huh
ya karma wut happen to biggie. sad puff still hasnt been served his tho and snoop snake...
RIP 2pac.
I’m calling bullshit. Black Ice didn’t come out until summer 1998.
'Long Kiss Goodnight ' felt like icing on da cake to that said celebration too; I was like, 'These dudes just don't care'
I'm from ny but Gipp speaks valid points. Gipp deserves his flowers too. Big ups to Goodie mob, field mob, CeeLo, dungeon family, etc....
What does telling everyone “ I’m from NY “ before saying Gipp deserves his flowers suppose to mean? Big deal! Who cares your from NY? So what!! Nobody knows you here
@@I_be_e That jus pissed you off huh! Might not be your cup of tea but Live n Let Live my man. Somebody's comment on where they from or what they do shouldn't get to you like that, and if it does thats a "YOU" problem.
Gipp don't deserve s*** quit all that a** kissing NY in my Era don't do that
a lot of people was at that party i'm not suprised they was there too
The industry black balled LA artist for years after that
Indeed 🎯
Yep that's exactly what happened 💯
They definitely did and that allowed the south to get the title
It took Dre and The Game to bring the West Coast back.
Pac wasn’t a LA artist 2pac was a Bay Area rapper mobin living in LA on death row for eight months .
I never knew how much I need a gipp interview 😅
Realest Story I ain’t ever heard..
RIP B.I.G
Wow I'm surprised he never told this story before.
As a Brooklyn Guy listened to that like I ain't know the end of the story.
I heard this story a 100 times, but some how Gipps version sounds more graphic, real and more believable
frfr, think it's cause he gave more context on the things that was really going on, like them shooting up Guru car. That's what put it into perspective for me.
We still gotta remember pac and biggie was only 25 years old, which is crazy cuz you would of thought they was older. But biggie was definitely playing with fire by coming to LA at that time. Especially him not knowing the LA politics.
You got that half right. Biggie was 24 and Pac was 25
When you get that gut feeling,you gotta trust it. Nine times out of ten it's a sign.
Biggie was targeted by Dj quik and suge. Suge put the order from prison & now his karma is a slow painful payback in a 6x9 cell for life.
cap
Cap
I don't think QUICK had anything to do with it but suge there's a lot of evidence that he paid poochie to hit big
@@ronnielister1023 poochie didn’t kill biggie y’all need to stop with that meth
When you hear stories about PAC and Biggie no matter how many times you hear them just know that’s how real shyt was when these two people existed in hip hop. Shyt was real. If you said something out of pocket on Monday yo’a$$ was gon get checked by Tuesday. Catch my drift?…
You not lying bro anyone that was talking about who killed pac they was going to get Deal with
Oh yeah. And u definitely had to stand on by what u said too.
onG
I wanna hear a interview from D rock biggie's homeboy or the driver to the suv big was in, cause we haven't hear nothing from him ever. If Art of dialogue can get them up here it will be something new.
I doubt that he will ever do an interview on this platform
D-rock works for puff, as a bodyguard.
I saw a picture of them together at a costume party,
dressed as Prince and Company.
So I doubt he's going to give a testimony.
He's on the payroll.
D Rock, was in Puff's pocket. Read what Geve deal said about him. F*cking🐍
Drock a snake
driver had to be in on it or know why not drive away or anything just sits there bullets fly or think he jumped out of car and on diddys part gene says run the lights or puffy does why would u even do that if u didn’t know somthing was going too or gonna happen so just suss af diddy set that sht up wanting his money from big since he was planning on leaving bad boy
Atlanta artist are very like able and always about the music 👌 how can u not love Outcast n Goodie Mobb
I got to see goodie mob live in concert here in Florida 2010 one of the best
@@michaelkretchmer9859 dam u lucky 🍀 I love big gipp
Yeah it was good time definitely for sure
Part of that story sounds off the album with Black ice on it didn’t release til 98 remember it like it was yesterday
Song may have bn already recorded. Could've bn pushing it thru his shows and letting ppl hear it early who knows.
Just as Life After Death was recorded in 1996 and released in 1997.
@@mksjmh3882 yea you right
back then album were already pressed and folks had copies of they own shit letting magazines and other artists sneak listen before the LABEL put it out
I remember after Big passed LA and really Westcoast music scene just seemed like a turn off. Tbh TV shows, Cube movies and the Lakers seemed like the only positive things from LA. Besides that the vibes were shady and grim. Glad it picked up🙏🏾
that was really the only thing that made the west start dropping off in popularity. it would still be a few years before the south came in and took over but after that like you said, people kind of turned away from all the blood/crip stuff in the music. how ironic that all these years later we ended up with the Wayne's, Cardi's, 6ix9ines and everybody else bringing all that stuff back in smh.....
Ain’t nothing changed wit LA. Look at Nipsey n PNB Rock. That’s a dark city to be in if you’re in the streets. Better off going to Disneyland and the tourist sites.
Honest even though many years had passed since they both been gone you just think damn it's so messed up how from 1994-1997 a lot of crazy things happened to them. It's unfortunate that they were young and got killed .Still till this day i still feel the pain from hearing how they both got killed.
I like how Big Gipp keeping it real
slap
i just hit you in the lip boy
whatcha gonna do about it
tough guy
In fairness Pac from NY..... THE EAST was sad too
Very
Alot of New Yorkers & Up North people love 2 Pac too.. It was mainly the New York Rappers that tried to team up & go against Pac but Pac wasn't even mad at all of New York Rappers, alot of them was just haters & jealous of Pac
That’s why pac was a clown to me!
@@lashunebrown7405 I’m curious,what were they jealous of?
@@sinceremarks8529 having the game on lock and the bitches loved pac , most dudes hate period for a lot less
❤BIGG GIPP He keep it 💯 fools was in Pac Kingdom Celebrating his death.
All those cats in Goodie Mob - good people. Non thugs, just musicians and good hearts. Southern. Raised well. You will never see any of them ever have any problems like this.
Except CeeLo. Dude is a straight up creep.
Great Interviews! I'm still waitin on a DJ Quik one!!!
THE L.A.P.D. HAD TO BE INVOLVED....
With the help of suge and dj quik
@@quentinsimpson5908And the FBI 👀
@@quentinsimpson5908 We can’t factually say Quik was involved but he I’m sure he was aware. It wasn’t a secret that certain people were out lurking around LA waiting for the perfect chance to kill someone from Bad Boy.
No lies here.....
involved as in : They didnt give AF
I love this interview, Big Gipp is one of the few artists who seems to be sober and on his Ps & Qs in these you tube interviews🎉!
I'm a Bigg Gipp fan fa sho now! Truth & realness!
Best explanation I’ve ever heard, and I’ve watched a lot of this for years. Big Gipp,nailed it
I definitely blame puff for that!!!! He shouldn’t have even had that man out there that early
I was 13 when Pac died and i met him 6 months before he was killed on Crenshaw and MLK …. It was an honor RIP PAC
How was that encounter?
@@morganwingo he was humble, he had a pure heart for real and cared about the people for sure. I hugged this man…. We had no phones back then so i only have my memory of him.
@@mlean83😂
I wouldn't say LA died in 97. Just 2 years later Dre and Snoop were back on top of the game.
The city never recovered. Those guys were already established.
Pac and Biggie would heave made peace eventually, they just never got the chance too
Never forget the west coast took BOTH of them out. Pac ain't get smoked on the east. The industry said later for you west coast ninjas. If they wasn't affiliated with Dre they didn't get no light out there. I often wonder what 2Pac's response would be if Biggie went out first. He had a lot of hardcore things to say about Biggie so where do you go after that? Would the expectation be that he would all of a sudden have good things to say about him? Biggie was the most famous out of all his targets. It's like literally what do you do from there? Saying all that why would the expectation be of Biggie to say anything remotely good about Pac after his demise? It's an unfortunate situation that both these men's lives had to come to an end in that manner. I don't think Hip Hop has recovered from both to be honest.
Great comment. Its just that Biggie and Puff was in Pacs Backyard. I do understand Biggie staying quiet though after all that drama, It just was not wise to go to LA. I think if Big would have passed 1st Pac nem wouldnt be in New York without expecting some kind of violence..
Talk about it
@@kenharp4807 I think PAC would’ve returned home and try to make things peaceful,once he left death row
The Labels is the hidden hand!
@@intelligentfool09 The only comment that make sense
We need more interviews from BIG GIPP
Goodie Mob one of my favorite groups 💯 especially Gip. He got that Southern hospitality smooth flow. Love from the South
Classic interview. Bring Gipp back.
Big was still walking with a cane from when he was In the car accident in October
September
@@samj458 my bad
Shouldn’t have been out there not physically 100%. The same energy Gipp is describing never left LA. They moved on Nipsey the same way.
I always wondered what made Puffy and BIG think they could be in LA talking about I'm going back to Cali 6 months after Pac got killed... it was so obviously gonna be considered disrespectful.
& BIG dissin' PAC on LA radio smh
80s & 90s L.A. GANG BANGIN WAS AT ITS HEIGHT L.A. WAS WAY MORE DANGEROUS BACK THEN 💯🤞🏿
More like Puffy was celebrating.
That was probably a set up
Yes it was, but they were celebrating 2pac's death.
I think the FOI had something to do with it
There actually is a reasonable idea/theory that Poochie had assistance with that ambush style hit from a FOI acting rogue.
they had nothing to do with it it's disrespectful cut it out
Yes they did FOI HAS ALOT OF ROGUE PEOPLE IN IT I HAD A EX MANAGER THAT USED TO WORK FOR DIDDY STILL DO AND HE TRIED TO BLOOD SACRAFICE ME I SURVIVED NOW HE'S LOOKING AT YEARS WITHOUT SEEING THE SUN JUST LIKE DIDDY NOW HE WANTS TO TALK AND MAKE THINGS RIGHT NO DEAL I WANT THEM BEHIND BARS THEY DESTROYED A GENERATION BEHIND FOOLISHNESS AFTER BIGGIE AND 2PAC THEY STILL ON DUM SHIT.
You should listen to the Big’s last radio appearance in LA. Dude was being mad disrespectful almost taunting the whole region.
Real shit gipp.. tell it how it is & not how it suppos to go.
Big was hurt and probably knew Puffy had a hand in 2Pac's killing. I miss both 2Pac and Biggie, rap would be soooooo much better of they in their 50s were still rapping.
Biggie was happy too he ain’t give a damn trust me
Hurt and made a diss song?
They both are in heaven, having a good time. R.I.P. to both of them.
Hmm idk about that.
Big was out here in Cali mocking Tupac death on the radio. It was mad disrespectful for him to be rapping Long Kiss Good Night.
Art Of Dialogue killing it. Love it keep this up!
'HOW CAN PLAYAZ STAND THERE .. AND SAY I SOUND LIKE THEM .. HELLO .. PUSH WIGS BACK .. PUSH 6 COUPES THAT'S YELLOW' ..
And that's why I always say puff AND big had that new York arrogance. Y'all really must have thought L.A. was soft
Ceelo talk about how thight he was wit B.I.G
Rest easy Pac and Biggie
respect for gipp standing up for pac
Gipp and Pac were like🤞🏾
Love from LA to Big Gipp. Shout out to Joy. Met y'all at Apache back in the day. 💯
Pac dying was going to kill Big's career even if he didn't die. I don't think people understand how much that man was loved.
Exactly
I agree... the Bloods were going to get Biggie one way or the other sadly
2Pac & Biggie deaths effected rappers big time and they had to move way differently
2pac should've moved differently after quad but no