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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2021
  • Viral is powerful. Maybe it's too powerful. Let's go over these two elements in fine details and find out for sure if Viral has killed Corrosive.
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Komentáře • 677

  • @XanKreigor
    @XanKreigor Před 3 lety +513

    Remember when Corrosive was simply the best dmg type because it was the only armor shred we had before Slash procs got buffed?

    • @FrogOnAHorse
      @FrogOnAHorse Před 3 lety +9

      Slash procs must've been buffed before I started playing in 2015 then, because they only got nerfed to not ignore shields.

    • @Aeririn
      @Aeririn Před 3 lety +38

      @@FrogOnAHorse wasn't so much a nerf more as specializing. They made it so that slash was to armour as toxin was to shields. It was seen as too over-powered to completely ignore shields with no only toxin but also slash. So they buffed slash to act like toxin to armour instead where it does true dmg ignoring armour dmg red

    • @stuff4812
      @stuff4812 Před 3 lety +37

      @@Aeririn slash already ignored armor before that. the only thing that changed with slash is that viral got buffed to the sky. slash was only nerfed to not bypass shields, there was no direct buff to slash

    • @-into-the-void-
      @-into-the-void- Před 2 lety +7

      ​@@Aeririn I also suspect that one of the big reasons why they made this change was because of new players receiving slash procs from nearly every enemy in the game. Taking damage that bypasses your only source of regenerating HP was really annoying without any reliable healing sources, which are few and far between when starting out.

    • @thereprehensible435
      @thereprehensible435 Před 2 lety +3

      Or heat stripping armor.
      Or viral just outright boosting damage by absurd amounts.
      ...Yeah, Corrosive went from god-tier proc to shit-tier.

  • @arc_whale5017
    @arc_whale5017 Před 3 lety +455

    "Corrosive is more than a status proc... It's a way of life."

    • @NeroWolf42
      @NeroWolf42 Před 3 lety +15

      an outdated way of life, but a way of life it is

    • @alexanderkevwitch5801
      @alexanderkevwitch5801 Před 2 lety +22

      Corrosive gang for life were like volt mains we stay with it cuz its are life choices.

    • @AscendtionArc
      @AscendtionArc Před 2 lety +6

      @@alexanderkevwitch5801 Ah, one of Layzar's disciples I see ;) .
      Maybe one day he'll read the comments/wiki and stop telling new players that Deimos enemies are immune to viral (though the 4 apex enemies/mechs that were, have now grown to 6).

    • @Gamer12666
      @Gamer12666 Před rokem

      ​@@AscendtionArc true, though many, MANY players still believe they're immune even to this day. To the point that any google search leads to dozens of reddit posts about how Viral is useless because everything is immune and that Corrosive/Heat is the only way to go.
      Leyzar isn't the only one who's got it wrong since it changed, but most of the community. Pretty sure there's a (most likely outdated by now) video from Kengineer that says the same thing.

  • @HernanC226
    @HernanC226 Před 3 lety +510

    meanwhile gas, magnetic, blast, inpact
    *crying in a corner

    • @mentlegen3887
      @mentlegen3887 Před 3 lety +130

      Magnetic should be able to nullify enemies! Or at least pull them towards each other. Blast should do an actual explosion in a small area that does damage proportional to the enemies health. But nah, I’m sure DE should just leave these status procs and not do anything interesting with them :(

    • @izzuddinmnasir4884
      @izzuddinmnasir4884 Před 3 lety +129

      me slaps [condition overload] mod: You are all hired

    • @felix_patriot
      @felix_patriot Před 3 lety +66

      @@mentlegen3887 i would REALLY love to see magnetic pulling enemies together! thats an awesome idea!

    • @S0L1nv1ctus
      @S0L1nv1ctus Před 3 lety +53

      Magnetic should nullify nullifiers that would be good.

    • @nyft3352
      @nyft3352 Před 3 lety +19

      gas is almost as good as toxin as a status specially if you are grouping enemies and using breach surge on your warframe, but be advised, the amount of particles can either blind you or burn your PC so be sure you have low effects settings or you dont have a toaster for a PC if you want to try it. (also, pair with volt's discharge for added particle shitshow).

  • @jaezi5982
    @jaezi5982 Před 3 lety +681

    "There is really no reason to use corrosive against the corpus"
    **Inserts clip using corrosive against the corpus**

    • @rah113
      @rah113 Před 3 lety +18

      Agreed it doesn't work

    • @BigWickEnergy_
      @BigWickEnergy_ Před 3 lety +52

      At the level enemies most of you guys play.. modding overall is mostly irrelevant. Let’s be honest here

    • @jaezi5982
      @jaezi5982 Před 3 lety +20

      @@BigWickEnergy_ True. Idk much tbh, I just play conclave, lunaro and the occasional tricap

    • @cooldude7255
      @cooldude7255 Před 3 lety +2

      @@rah113 my shedu max modded out begs to differ, corrosive fire damage does still decent to corpus

    • @rah113
      @rah113 Před 3 lety +20

      @@cooldude7255 na it doesn't but ok

  • @elyeneralv5249
    @elyeneralv5249 Před 3 lety +637

    so this is why saryn deals highest dmg because she uses both corrosive and viral procs on her abilities

  • @steampunknord
    @steampunknord Před 3 lety +167

    The irony of Viral proc getting a buff in 2020.

  • @raids0166
    @raids0166 Před 3 lety +191

    Learned quite a few things from this excellent video.
    Now I understand why I struggle with infested demolisher.
    Well done and keep up the great work !

    • @Terrantular
      @Terrantular Před 2 lety

      Also you deal massive damage if you target their shoulders whenever they open to fire projectiles at you.

  • @dog6769
    @dog6769 Před 3 lety +462

    If only math teachers were so good

    • @magic_cfw
      @magic_cfw Před 3 lety +10

      granted, not teaching the math, but definitly good at introducing mathematical ideas.
      Maybe math teachers should be gamers (i.e. explaining harder math using game contexts, rather than just the worked solution in textbooks)?

    • @SamuelAlder
      @SamuelAlder Před 3 lety +1

      INDEED! Makes maths interesting

    • @dexei3150
      @dexei3150 Před 3 lety +2

      @@magic_cfw Similar how Tierzoo explains biology in the context of the game "outside" and says "clans" or "factions" instead of species!

    • @francescoragnoni8042
      @francescoragnoni8042 Před 2 lety +1

      Well,CZcamsrs get paid depending from how many people like them

  • @notDinsss
    @notDinsss Před 2 lety +26

    I've been binge watching your content for two reasons:
    1. A fresh perspective on Warframe (coming back to the grind from almost 2 years of not playing)
    2. Well structured content that prefaces the question, lays facts, and answers follow-up questions as the viewer thinks of them
    Thank you for this type of content. This is a well thought-out approach to practical problems and helps a lot with understanding key concepts. Even the boiled down version at the end, it's like a solid chunk of pure gold after refining everything.

  • @overlordtrazyn861
    @overlordtrazyn861 Před 3 lety +216

    ok so.. multiple points.
    first: jesus christ, thats a voice
    second: nice work on the video, i know how much work can go into that
    third: take my like and my follow

    • @Squidoinkoo
      @Squidoinkoo Před 3 lety +13

      Honestly though. As I was listening, I was like "wait, isn't he that caretaker of the Leverian?"

    • @contingenc3548
      @contingenc3548 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Squidoinkoo *Curiosity [umbral] INTENSIFIES*

    • @travislong2176
      @travislong2176 Před 3 lety +3

      I think his dad may be David attenbourough

    • @Terrantular
      @Terrantular Před 2 lety

      Halfway through I forgot that I wasn't listening to Kurzgesagt In a Nutshell

  • @Trevurie
    @Trevurie Před 3 lety +75

    Viral = general purpose
    Corrosive = specific types.

  • @meliodassama9715
    @meliodassama9715 Před 3 lety +84

    Surprising how viral heat combo isn't even mentioned once in this video. Viral slash is the got to but not all weapons proc slash reliably so heat is a substitute to reduce 50% of armor with a single proc.

    • @azuresea7183
      @azuresea7183 Před 3 lety +5

      You forgot heat also does tik damage per sec as long as heat proc. Is active.🤨🤔🧐

    • @ForestX77
      @ForestX77 Před 3 lety +18

      Well reasons might be is that heat doesn’t bypass armor like slash does and primary weapons do have hunter munitions completely removing the need for high slash and statues if none at all.
      But wanna be stupid go viral, slash, and heat. It’s just crazy stupid how powerful those 3 are together.

    • @superslash7254
      @superslash7254 Před 2 lety

      @@ForestX77 Got a 200% primary crit chance invig on trinity. Overall 85% crit chance makes the ignis wraith set up with viral and hunter munitions just stupid. Ofc 250% damage on a kuva nukor secondary is even more comically overpowered.

    • @TheTattorack
      @TheTattorack Před rokem

      Viral Ignis Wraith let's go! :D

    • @lucidairity7927
      @lucidairity7927 Před rokem

      I love my baza prime I run viral and damage on a rivin I got so I can run viral at all times I get radiation corrosive viral blast all sorts of mixes of the 2 and my viral heat with hunter munitions literally slays say hard it's not even okay at all

  • @Zickzii
    @Zickzii Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for putting this together. The damage types and status effects are hard to keep track of but this video makes it easy.

  • @matthewdemers7600
    @matthewdemers7600 Před 3 lety

    More of these videos would be outstanding dude! This was actually really helpful

  • @MagikarpMan
    @MagikarpMan Před 3 lety +84

    This is why I like the phage, one of the few weapons that can apply viral, corrosive and heat for insane debuffs

    • @yeageri4168
      @yeageri4168 Před 2 lety +1

      Got a riven for it if you want 4 free

    • @MagikarpMan
      @MagikarpMan Před 2 lety

      @@yeageri4168 u on PS4?

    • @Terrantular
      @Terrantular Před 2 lety

      But muh slash :(

    • @Avoncarstien
      @Avoncarstien Před 2 lety

      There's a few more now as well.
      For melee you have the Pathocyst, which is surprisingly not bad with how glaives work now, if you've a riven for it; the Plague Zaw's, Pulmonars and Keratinos for viral, and the Caustacyst for corrosive.
      For secondaries, there's the Kompressa for viral which has innate multishot and decent status to start with, and then the Tysis, and the Catabolyst, which is quite a nasty weapon... (and technically the Stug, but...)
      And finally, primaries you have the Phage as mentioned, which is a status monster, but also the Synapse, which has exceptionally good critical stats, so can make for a nasty Corrosive/Viral/Munitions build. Also the Hema which I never really loved, but the Proboscis Cernos is positively ludicrous with it's viral explosion and the ability to tick multiple status effects on the tether prior the detonation.
      Hilariously good weapon, though I kinda wish it had innate viral instead of corrosive, so you could build corrosive to get max impact from the innate armor bypass after building up a bunch of viral on a tough target. Either way, still great.
      There's a lot of really fun weapons now that can lean into a mix of pretty crazy status effects.

    • @feedarman4888
      @feedarman4888 Před rokem

      @@Avoncarstien I’m late to the party but Grendel’s subsumable nourish exists for free viral procs for all weapons (not sure about melee actually) and energy regen.

  • @ShinoMachino
    @ShinoMachino Před rokem +3

    Started Warframe back in 2014 and have been playing on and off for the last several years. Last time I played Warframe for a long period of time, Corrosive was just the go to thing for everything so my knowledge is super outdated LOL. This video and the overview of all the elements video have been such a great help. Really, I've been watching a lot of your videos lately so thank you for making in-depth videos on all these topics. It has helped me out a lot as a returning player.

  • @fredericoeusebio9770
    @fredericoeusebio9770 Před 3 lety +29

    Been trying to explain this to a few of clanmates...

  • @SimonSomething
    @SimonSomething Před 3 lety +3

    Very good content my friend! I'm happy there are others like you that figure this stuff out because from just playing the game these things aren't obvious.

  • @berongkun
    @berongkun Před 3 lety

    This is absolutely helpful, and is easy to understand! Props to you man.. thanks for making this!

  • @thomasixdays9523
    @thomasixdays9523 Před 3 lety +35

    The only thing I do on warframe these days is dojo decorating.

    • @Immortal_BP
      @Immortal_BP Před 3 lety +2

      ikr, i started decorating my orbiter and its been... expensive. the decorations are pricey but small resulting in a nice looking room for a measly 1k plat

    • @Sal-db6pw
      @Sal-db6pw Před 2 lety

      Lol

    • @cameronmckillop6448
      @cameronmckillop6448 Před 2 lety

      My clan has this shtick of making creatures out of buddha statues. One seems to pop up every year or so (when they feel the need to log on)

    • @g4md0r32
      @g4md0r32 Před 2 lety

      Anything you enjoy in Warframe is a nice thing to do in it and that is why I love it too

  • @DiscontentCat
    @DiscontentCat Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you so much for this video. I just begun the steel path and was so confused why my corrosive builds felt like they werent doing jack to anyone.

  • @menchTV
    @menchTV Před 3 lety +1

    Such a great video, mad props!

  • @riedok8653
    @riedok8653 Před 3 lety

    I recently came back to Warframe from a 6-month break this was a nice update to info and confirmed what a few others were telling me, thx for the video.

  • @oneticks
    @oneticks Před 3 lety +12

    "*armor*"
    Me who play with abating link trinity: ok guess ill play viral

  • @SuperRagingStorm
    @SuperRagingStorm Před 3 lety +5

    This is why I love weapons like the synapse and the scourge. Corrosive + Viral = pure destruction.

  • @laszloneumann500
    @laszloneumann500 Před 3 lety

    One of the most useful and well structured videos out of the warframe youtuber community in a big while

  • @kamalpramsook
    @kamalpramsook Před 2 lety

    first useful youtuber with a nice explanations. i'll sub to that my guy keep up the good work

  • @cart0443
    @cart0443 Před 3 lety

    Great video! Keep up the good work👌

  • @bandofbrothers5860
    @bandofbrothers5860 Před 2 lety

    the mathematical approach to this deserves huge tons of appreciation! Brilliant content!!!

  • @Mkgaming252
    @Mkgaming252 Před 3 lety

    Great video man I love it the way you explained you just a new subscriber

  • @Magbuus
    @Magbuus Před 3 lety

    This was really interesting, great video :D

  • @silnyye4403
    @silnyye4403 Před 3 lety +1

    My guy deserves more subs. Good work.

  • @WispGraxx
    @WispGraxx Před 3 lety +18

    this is exactly why i think that the weapons with innate viral are becoming super OP. Since you only really need to proc viral once to be most efficient, by building corrosive and heat on a weapon that has innate viral damage you have godly results against any faction in the game pretty much. Great informative video!

    • @yarugatyger1603
      @yarugatyger1603 Před 3 lety +2

      ye but stacking status also gives diminishing returns...there is no reason to it.

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx Před 3 lety +3

      @@yarugatyger1603 that is true but i have been using the komorex recently and its super underrated. The innate viral makes it a hell of a weapon. From testing against 160 level steel path factions, I really saw how big of a difference that innate viral proc does compared to other weapons that would normally deal more damage but they lack this small yet important feature.
      On the other side i think if u go for a slash build the innate viral wont matter at all

    • @FiveN9ne
      @FiveN9ne Před 3 lety

      Except that the proc ratio will make it very hard to proc viral at all unless you have very high fire rate, attack speed or a forced viral proc. Take the plague zaws for example. With just primed pressure point (or CO) and 2 elemental mods for corrosive you have almost 8x more corrosive damage than viral, which means on each status chance occurrence corrosive is 8x more likely to proc over viral. Even puncture proc will be higher since you have more puncture damage than innate viral.

    • @Aeririn
      @Aeririn Před 3 lety

      @@FiveN9ne that's why you use weeping wounds. Easy way to get over 300% status chance. Even if it's 8x more likely proc, if you proc 3+ status per hit then it balances out much more nicely. Especially so if using a CO build

    • @FiveN9ne
      @FiveN9ne Před 3 lety

      @@Aeririn Yea you can't get that much status, idk where you pulled that number from. Weeping wounds is 440% status chance at max combo. Even if your weapon has base 30% status you reach 160% status chance. And most weapons don't have even that much. Procing more status also means you will just proc more of the dominant element, not that it evens out somehow, that's not how probability works.

  • @fighter754gd7
    @fighter754gd7 Před 2 lety

    Very intriguing video!

  • @RCGJR_
    @RCGJR_ Před 3 lety +76

    2,000 hours in and i found this video helpful🤙💪

    • @wallyhellblazer6905
      @wallyhellblazer6905 Před 3 lety +2

      Me too, 4k in game hours and this video teach me 1 or 2 things more

    • @metalheadzaki
      @metalheadzaki Před 2 lety +1

      i have 3,7k hours in the game and never get how armor scaling on enemies work lmao

    • @yokoo8064
      @yokoo8064 Před 2 lety

      13 hours left till I hit 5k, still taking that cheat sheet with me

  • @heroscout7533
    @heroscout7533 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this video. Been running with corrosive mostly but I don't do any high tier enemy fights. Glad to know my 5 forma flux can get stronger!

  • @Splashygalaxy
    @Splashygalaxy Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the tips!

  • @zackvyle
    @zackvyle Před 2 lety

    I gotta watch all your vids in order to understand Warframe more.
    There’s still some things which I can’t kill fast or at all so we’ll time to look through all your vids

  • @datermanator44
    @datermanator44 Před 3 lety

    This video is very helpful, thanks!

  • @scottmiller2188
    @scottmiller2188 Před 3 lety

    Fantastic information as always! The more math in these videos the better.

  • @sarasattler5269
    @sarasattler5269 Před 3 lety +2

    I think the change to heat, giving it some armor strip potential while being more easily stackable with viral, is also a major factor in corrosive falling behind. Plus heat excels in a lot of the situations where viral falls behind, as well.

  • @eradicateyou8772
    @eradicateyou8772 Před 2 lety

    That cheat sheet at 15:15 is perfect! Thank you for a clear guide n useful sheet ^^

  • @AstrumPrimus
    @AstrumPrimus Před 3 lety +1

    Viral and Corrosive: *Fight each other to decide who's the best*
    Meanwhile Gas: *Casually eat the snacks in the corner*

  • @devinyeaman1949
    @devinyeaman1949 Před 3 lety +1

    Can you do a video on the following:
    -best setup for each moa
    -best amp build for each prism
    -best Deimos pet setups
    Just some ideas for some content I'd like to see you do, since you do these types of vids quite well.

  • @Psion_Phoenix
    @Psion_Phoenix Před 2 lety

    Good guide. I always use viral + slash everywhere except for the Cambrian Drift or steel path. For them I use Corrosive, Heat and Slash.

  • @GenesiisDavid
    @GenesiisDavid Před rokem

    I'm glad I found your channel, you've made warframe less frustrating for me overall

  • @Disappointed_Philosoraptor

    Great video. I did learn details abotu a few things i didn't have accurate data on. The whole demolisher thing for example, thank for that^^
    However, there are a few things i'd like to point out which i think the video should have or could have mentioned.
    From the video, it initially seems that even specifically against grineer it all boils down to the inability of corrosive to handle alloy armor after all, as those select few grineer that posess this armor type do prove rather hard to kill with corrosive, as the armor reduction of even 80% at 10 procs becomes irrelevant at some point.
    You prove to us that viral in conjunction with slash is more effective as although it falls behind against ferrite armor, it can handle them as well as any other enemy "good enough".
    Since we're talking about combined elements, wouldn't it be only fair to also talk about combinations of corrosive with other elements as well?
    IF we're talking alloy armor, the main problem would be that you cannot use corrosive in conjuction with a damage type that's good against alloy armor as both corrosive and radiation require electricity as the base element. The only other option is to use cold which has a minor 25% modifier against alloy, but that doesn't really cut it.
    The again, the story changes on weapons with innate radiation damage, such as for example the staticor or any Kuva weapon with the right progenitor warframe to get radiation. This dynamic also applies to weapons with innate corrosion, on which you can mod radiation for the same all-star combination.
    Then, another major point would the be the very nature of slash as a DOT.
    While it's just really anticlimactic to stop shooting an enemy only to see them stand there for a few seconds until the DOT does it's work, time to kill itself as well as ammo efficiency also factor into the decision which element to use.
    The next major point would be priming the enemies themselves with one of the aforementioned elements.
    The Panzer Vulpaphyla specifically will proc viral on basically every enemy on the map for the entire mission - even while it's dead (which it won't stay for long as it always revives itself after a minute). If you're running around with that thing in tow then the decision changes: Use Corrosive and ridiation to straght up annihilate anything upfront or proc slash to wait for them to die - again, radiation on one weapon and corrosive on the other, or even both on the same weapon will usually obliterate anything.
    Last but not least: acolytes. all of them sport ferrite aromor. So far, corrosive seems to be the best element to have on your weapon to kill them, as one of their traits is that they cannot take more than 4 status procs of any status at the same time. as soon as 4 viral and slash are applied, no further procs can be stacked. This renders them virtually immune to any DOTs... so upfront damage it is.

  • @AscendtionArc
    @AscendtionArc Před 2 lety

    Thanks for this video.
    I calculated this ages ago, but haven't really thought about it since.
    To be more practical though, I'd also include CP's effect.
    Although, like with SP Eidolons, when the New War really starts, stripping and Electric might still beat corrosive ;) .

  • @DaiPai1777
    @DaiPai1777 Před 3 lety

    Are you ever considering doing a redeemer/redeemer prime guide and maybe a 2021 solo eidolon guide as well eventually? Would love!

  • @antoniodunbar1643
    @antoniodunbar1643 Před 3 lety +1

    My boy you have just gained a subscriber

  • @foskupac
    @foskupac Před 3 lety

    I love your I videos always learn something new

  • @kfc902
    @kfc902 Před rokem +1

    Yo I was looking for something like this. Thanks

  • @BolarolaBoi
    @BolarolaBoi Před 3 lety

    Something else important to consider is the existence of Heat procs. I normally am able to fit three elemental mods onto weapons and by putting Heat on with Viral, it creates a pretty good combo. Heat procs reduce armor on the first stack and each stack deals damage over time, meaning that it acts as somewhat of a mini corrosive proc as well as adding some DoT. Heat procs therefore help Viral weapons get through armor while Viral procs amplify the damage of Heat procs. At this point, most of my weapons use this Viral + Heat combo and it works pretty well.

  • @TheOppiter
    @TheOppiter Před 3 lety

    this was very useful and informative for a retunrer to warframe. thanks

  • @negan2714
    @negan2714 Před 3 lety +1

    I've got over 100 days of play time and have ran at least 100 endurance runs and I've never know the math sides of the elements. I knew X is better for Y but this helps a lot. Thanks for making this.

  • @icu9313
    @icu9313 Před 3 lety

    Youre a godsend. Subbed

  • @youknowwho257
    @youknowwho257 Před 3 lety +5

    Wait until we got Corrupted Heavy Nox and we gonna have nightmares.
    For me this Corrupt heavy gunner being the tankiest of all greneers was aways weird af to say the least.
    It's very skinny and tall, and that's it...

    • @soosboons4444
      @soosboons4444 Před 3 lety

      Unless they have resistance to headshots, they won't be much of a problem tbh. Crack open that helmet and they will drop faster than a heavy gunner.

    • @Vincrand
      @Vincrand Před 3 lety

      Corrupted units have the same stats as normal units. So Heavy gunner = Corrupted Heavy Gunner. The difference is in which faction mod does bonus damage. Also Bombards are harder to kill with a corrosive setup than a Heavy Gunner (due to different armor type)

    • @FiveN9ne
      @FiveN9ne Před 3 lety +1

      @@Vincrand This is not true. Corrupted heavy gunners have higher base hp than all the other heavy gunners 700 vs 300, check in simulacrum before you spawn them. They have same armor but when you consider health their ehp is higher. The tankiest units in the game are manic bombard eximus, but they practically don't exist in regular gameplay so they're irrelevant. People should test builds against bombards/napalms instead of gunners.

    • @Vincrand
      @Vincrand Před 3 lety

      @@FiveN9ne I stand corrected. Personally I always do a test run against 12 heavy gunners and 8 bombards at the highest level that is available to me (currently 150). If I die without playing bad, than the build isn't for me. I also use Corpus units, but only for weapons I intend to use only against Corpus.

    • @FiveN9ne
      @FiveN9ne Před 3 lety

      @@Vincrand For Corpus, maybe Cinder Machinists are the strongest ones but also not common, Corpus Tech probably the best choice, but they die so easily the test barely reveals anything

  • @horizonbumpy2828
    @horizonbumpy2828 Před 3 lety

    this was super helpful

  • @UmbraAtrox_
    @UmbraAtrox_ Před 3 lety

    Finally some sane Warframe content. Liked, commented and subscribed

  • @Commandelicious
    @Commandelicious Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love the smell of armour strip in the morning. Smells like ... victory.

  • @Megan_XD
    @Megan_XD Před 3 lety

    You're a perfect teacher, thank you! :)

  • @wuzzle5261
    @wuzzle5261 Před 2 lety

    This is exactly what I needed to see as a player returning after a few years. Very nice.

  • @evana-h3153
    @evana-h3153 Před 3 lety +2

    I combined both corrosive and viral on the phage a long time ago. This video explained to me why I melted kuva liches so easily.

  • @babysquirrel2746
    @babysquirrel2746 Před 3 lety +25

    If Warframe has an exam I will be ready for it.

  • @LifesGuardian
    @LifesGuardian Před 3 lety

    Thank you for the breakdown. I default to viral slash on all my builds as a general rule. Luckily, I rarely bother with Eidolons, CD, or infested salvage. So, aside from regular Juggs I'm good. Also, nice to know why Juggs have been causing me so much trouble. I may need to retune my Guandao Prime to viral and throw corrosive on my K Nukor.

  • @itsowenstylez3857
    @itsowenstylez3857 Před 3 lety

    Damn, great video

  • @SlyFox5679
    @SlyFox5679 Před 2 lety

    it could be interesting seeing a video on armor strip/removal warframe abilities

  • @kagutox1540
    @kagutox1540 Před 3 lety

    Just simply amazing calculations

  • @KyleSage35
    @KyleSage35 Před rokem +1

    I'm glad my frost avalanche build with viral/shock amprex still seems to work great after all this time.

  • @DjTrustNo.1
    @DjTrustNo.1 Před 3 lety +6

    when the sentients make their next move... well, that might take some time tho xD

  • @__8120
    @__8120 Před 2 lety

    that very pretty rainbow graph alone is worth a like

  • @1HeatWalk
    @1HeatWalk Před 3 lety

    I already knew this, but a great video none the less for less experienced players.

  • @blackmage1276
    @blackmage1276 Před 2 lety

    Something to note, grineer missions on earth, mars, and uranus all have lancers with ferrite armour

  • @TheTruePacmanMG
    @TheTruePacmanMG Před 2 lety +1

    I've just come back to WF since about 2018. Looking into my builds I had a lot of corrosive and viral. I think I'm going to lean a bit harder to viral now. Thank you for this video I feel enlightened and vindicated towards my friend who swears that using viral vs. Grineer at any level is a waste of time and stupid lol.

  • @Phantom_35
    @Phantom_35 Před 3 lety

    nah that hydroid shot at 0:29 was so neat

  • @fantasticoproduction
    @fantasticoproduction Před 2 lety

    ty very useful

  • @Avoncarstien
    @Avoncarstien Před 2 lety

    Excellent analysis, even practically a year later.

  • @mikecavazos7098
    @mikecavazos7098 Před rokem +1

    Saryn overkills with those spores and viral is deadly. She's is the queen of carnage and I love it!!!

  • @cedriccrz8661
    @cedriccrz8661 Před 3 lety +2

    BTW is interesting have a cold + faster proc status build + CO melee build because cold is strong against almost all, that include demolyst and bosses, compared to magus lockdown, but I forget to test with other enemies

    • @fas609
      @fas609 Před 3 lety

      Gloom can stop demolyst as long as you stay outside his nulifilier aura range, verglas cold beam also can freeze them as well. idk i start liking heat/cold/toxin over both viral/corr in steel path.

  • @simonsoupshark8009
    @simonsoupshark8009 Před 3 lety +1

    great video as always
    also seeing somone use hydroid makes me smile
    (happy hydroid main noises)

  • @ketchupboy2002
    @ketchupboy2002 Před 3 lety

    ANOTHER BANGING VIDEO

  • @francobuzzetti9424
    @francobuzzetti9424 Před 3 lety

    very well done video! , this is the wiki well sumarized, the only food for thought is, against grineer if viral is better than corrosive, it doesnt matter cause you will one shot them anyway , don't go tryhard for enemies lvl 40, also , another tip i can add , you should always apply 10 stacks of every relevant element no matter what and then the bulk of your damge should always be whatever they are the weakest against after all procs.you have 3 weapons and abilities, make use of them ,.cheers!

  • @BR0KENGLASSMAN
    @BR0KENGLASSMAN Před 3 lety +1

    I like using the Phage which can stack Viral, Corrosive and Heat all in one to just mess up any and all factions

  • @someguy1301
    @someguy1301 Před 3 lety +15

    Radiation is OP on the Corinth when you use the grenade there is just enemy’s fighting each other everywhere

    • @steezyastro
      @steezyastro Před 2 lety

      Also on Kuva Nukor

    • @Terrantular
      @Terrantular Před 2 lety +4

      @@steezyastro funny, my Kuva Nukor doesn't make enemies fight each other, unless they're doing it in the afterlife.

    • @steezyastro
      @steezyastro Před 2 lety

      @@Terrantular what in the mr1 are you taking about?

  • @midivilplanet
    @midivilplanet Před 5 měsíci

    I would really like to see an update on this about the new Archon shards allowing for full armor strip with corrosive.

  • @UNGGodYT
    @UNGGodYT Před 2 lety

    that is why i put heat with my viral the heat status reduce armor by half and a little CC , but it is wise to always bring a weapon for those situation , if you cant spare any of the main loadout , have an arch gun for it , or use a weapon that can have both viral and corrosive .

  • @hammerheadcorvette4
    @hammerheadcorvette4 Před 2 lety

    15:19 We'll hopefully use the operators more when the sentients arrive... Plenty arcanes with heat/electric and other gimmicks to not be left alone.

  • @vonrelevanz1963
    @vonrelevanz1963 Před 3 lety

    Very well explained, I will link this to people who ask me about the meta.
    Against high level enemies, it's best to bring a crit based melee with condition overload and mainly slash together with a mixture of viral, corrosive, heat and radiation distributed between your companion and your gun, for which I find the new sentinel gun Verglas very helpful, despite it's inconsistent firing. Why radiation? Watch a heavy gunner and a nox with rad procs turning on their allies...
    General advice for those who struggle with modding: Get a Cedo, alt fire applies a dozen procs of every status in the game at once. Problem solved.

  • @johnsandberg3074
    @johnsandberg3074 Před 3 lety

    Very informative video but i still think yoi should have mentioned that viral is often combined with fire for armor reduction and that increases the gap between corrosive and viral even more and so does corrosive projection.

  • @thecheshire2334
    @thecheshire2334 Před 3 lety +21

    Typically I've used viral fire as a method of reducing armor while damaging a target. Curious too see how that compares too viral slash

    • @stuff4812
      @stuff4812 Před 3 lety +8

      i mean lots of weapons can do all 3. viral heat and slash

    • @judehaylesa
      @judehaylesa Před 2 lety +1

      @@stuff4812 never optimal tho since you usually waits mods slots on useful utility or essential damage mods

    • @stuff4812
      @stuff4812 Před 2 lety +1

      this was so long ago now but in all honestly wasted mod slot or not the difference isnt that big when comparing to what your using the weapon against. unless your trying to get away with using a mediocre weapon everything will die very fast regardless

    • @Avoncarstien
      @Avoncarstien Před 2 lety

      @@stuff4812 with the advent of primary and secondary arcanes, basically everything except the new Eximus, Thrax, and Steel Path enemies go down without much effort. I do love the fact that heat procs stack damage indefinitely though, which can make them something of an alternative to slash for weapons like the Nukor or Cycron that have great stats but no way to access slash.
      Honestly given the way heat works, I'm curious how heat vs slash in terms of damage works out. Heat will inevitably win out at *some* level of procs, given the target has near infinite health and near infinite armor, but heat's stacking vs slash's true damage would be something interesting to plot on various levels of armor.

  • @alpha198delta
    @alpha198delta Před 2 lety

    Why nor both? Panzer Vulpaphyla for Viral procs with quills, and both corrosive and slash on a zaw. The number of quills from the Vulp can reliably give 3-6 to a target every 4s with some to other targets.

  • @leonsixt2744
    @leonsixt2744 Před 3 lety

    awesome video

  • @sleepywisp
    @sleepywisp Před 3 lety

    You should’ve mentioned the combinations of Viral, Heat, & Slash Vs Corrosive, Heat, Slash. I feel since both elemental combos ( Viral & Corrosive ) Can use Heat as a single side element an taking slash & bleed ticks from slash into account. There could’ve been more arguments to be made about which is better with those additional multipliers. Especially with Heat in the mix because it temporarily reduces enemy armor while the burn proc is active. An a point you missed about Viral in this video is that 325% additional damage alongside boosted/enhanced damage with DOT damage types (Damage Over Time) So Heat, Slash, an Toxin damage. Great video nonetheless just wanted to pointed out this interaction the both elements ( Viral & Corrosive ) have with Heat. Along side with Viral having the ability to not only boost Slash but Heat & Toxin as well.

  • @joesloan1526
    @joesloan1526 Před 3 lety

    Great video. Thanku

  • @deathshadow456
    @deathshadow456 Před 3 lety

    on steel path i use viral and slash and they just die easy but long in it take little longer thx for the info it will help me and that is why i cant hurt them on infested disruption

    • @ownzies100
      @ownzies100 Před 3 lety

      Viral slash with glaive can instakill lvl 9999 with 1 slash tick

  • @oriondezagrats4228
    @oriondezagrats4228 Před 2 lety +1

    It's important to note that the relationship between Viral and Corrosive gets even more complicated once you add Heat to the mix. As Heat is straight up one of the most powerful elements, what with being an ever-increasing dot tick as well as stripping 50% of armour over one second following initial application, it benefits massively both from armour getting stripped, as well as the bonus damage multiplier from viral. It innately helps itself with its own armour strip functionality, but Corrosive only makes it more potent, while Heat also makes Corrosive more potent as well.
    Now, this might not mean a whole lot if a decent portion of your weapon's damage isn't purely corrosive, as is the case with a good deal of your standard loadout, but there's a small number of them.
    For example, if you're using Excalibur's Chromatic Blade augment and literally all of your damage is Corrosive/Heat, and you're looking at 10 procs of Corrosive status and 1 proc of Heat status, then *97.5%* of ferrite armour has vanished from Corrosive damage calculations. A level 180 Corrupted Heavy Gunner is basically tissue paper at that point, and is honestly likely to be dead long before you even apply all 10 stacks of corrosive.
    Obviously this is less effective against Alloy armour, but 90% armour stripping ain't too shabby regardless -- while viral/heat will kill bombards faster, corrosive/heat will kill heavy gunners WAY faster, and maybe it's just me but I feel like I see those more often, on top a corrosive/heat-centric Chromatic Blade outright one-or-two-shotting a bunch of ferrite-armoured mooks even at those levels.
    Some of the funkiest weapons, though, are those that have innate viral or corrosive already. Scourge, for example, is one of those weapons that can have Viral/Corrosive/Heat, one of the most devastating combos in the game for armoured enemies, and is patently hilarious as a result. Bubonico is in a similar camp with its alt-fire having innate viral.

  • @xenopholis47
    @xenopholis47 Před 3 lety

    I use a corrosive kuva bramma with that slash proc mod (I am sorry I forget the name) and by god it demolishes in steel path missions+ lua sp where sentients attack sometimes. but again I also keep a radiation secondary to help put in corpus. I also use a heavy attack stropha which also helps too. Cheers

  • @astolenhotpocket13
    @astolenhotpocket13 Před 3 lety

    thank you

  • @thehalfrican1386
    @thehalfrican1386 Před 3 lety

    I think a big point to add aa well is that your usualy going to be running all 4 or maybe even 3 duel stat mods to bump your status. To which blast as a follow up with corrosive is pretty garbo, as apposed to radiation or better yet heat as a follow up to viral gives a 50% reduction to armor or a genuinly good cc component if not out right killed.

  • @wallyhellblazer6905
    @wallyhellblazer6905 Před 3 lety +1

    as a veteran I always believed that distant observer was the best warframe youtuber, but watching your video, now I think there are only two good warframe youtuber. you earned one more subscriber! love the video and how informative it is.