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OMG, I just had to google this and see if I could find anything about the movement and guess what I found. "Ford’s timepieces are being made in partnership with the Bedrock Manufacturing Company, the parent company of both Shinola and Filson [...]". It's a freakin' SHINOLA Jory! A SHINOLA!
Mattias Berg omg this needs to be like top comment!
OMG ITS A FUCKING OVER PRICED SHINOLA
@@chrollium6111 Shinola is already overpriced as is. As Archie would say it's a "shitter".
Definitely a Shitnola. Better buy a cartier tank solo.
Bedrock....like the Flintstones. I'm sure Fred will make a better watch from rock.
maybe it's like invicta where they claim the watch is 10 grand but it's on sale for $150
A 9K Tom Ford quartz is the perfect accessory for a $550.00 Tom Ford t-shirt.
if you sped 550$ on a T-shirt 9 grand for a watch is probably pretty cheap to you.
@@bingcrosby1378 it's the other way around buddy
And 10 000$ crocodile loafers made by machine and with glued sole.
Same with the fragrances. 50 ml of perfume for 200+? But at least his perfumes are good. This is just terrible overpricing
For the man who has everything, and absolutely no idea what they are doing.
Cartier is a jeweler with a solid horological history, and Tom Ford is a marketing brand. The Tank is one of my grail watches; the Tom Ford 001 is marketed well.
I used to have the Cartier Tank watch and got rid of it but I am going to buy another one. The Tom Ford watches I wouldn't look at never mind pay money for
@@VibrantMango especially recently with their "Octo" line
since we are talking Cartier i will confess that one of my two grail watches (am i allowed to have 2 grail watches?) is the new Santos de Cartier. love it so much.
and for that price you would think they could spell timepiece correctly. They wrote "Timpiece made in..." under details... hahahaha
You can "customize" your Tom Ford watch. Basically selecting the strap. If you pick the alligator strap you will option up to a ridiculous $10,100.
Well that sounds like a great deal! :D
wtff
If it's made in France it's a bargain mate😂
Made in France alligator straps,,, “ LACOSTE “ priceless.... !
Also made by same parent company that makes Shinola.
Saw Daniel Wellingtons in a watch store today. What? A brick and mortar store. What???
I saw some Daniel Wellingtons next to some Rolex's last week, smh -_-
Dear god no!
Hmmmm....Swiss made quartz....I can get a few Victorinox Inox pieces for that 2 grand, and have much better quality. And 10 grand??? Rolex territory there.
Inox have MSRP of $495
I got burned on Victorinox Maverick Small (quartz version). Really hate that watch. Size was fine (yes, I think 34mm is an ok size), movement was fine (aside from the minutes hand flopping about, not actually telling me which minute it should be pointed at (the seconds hand flops about, but that's normal for quartz)). Lume almost doesn't exist, and it had serious glare issues to the point that it was often painful to look at it. Bezel developed problems, and it seems that they haven't made it to be repairable, unlike Seiko's bezels. It's also built to prevent strap changes, which is another thing Seiko excels at.
Suggestion: skip Victorinox, not worth it.
Victorinox? What do they sell that costs that much? Must be the top of the line.
Not a single watch. I said I could get a FEW for that kind of money.
Reading comprehension. Sorry.
LOL Just today I found me a tank-like watch in the local thriftshop. Handwound movement 'Pour Vous M' brandname, Swiss made, for the grand sum of... euro 7,50.
9000 for a quartz watch? No way!
Also HUGE question, what site did you go to to find the Cartier at a lower price?
I just got a Bulova oceanographer from 1968 in pristine condish and I love it. Had I not seen your channel I probly would have has some fashion abomination .
Can they at least spell timepiece correctly in their ad?
Well spotted! 👍🏻
Maybe they just spelled "Tompiece" wrong.
I think I'd rather buy a codpiece than a Tom Ford!
I got a Vincero advertisement while watching this... What a shame that my eyes had to watch that for 5 seconds!!!
Excellent advice Jory. Nothing wrong with a quartz movement, some ppl might prefer a quartz, however, you can get a Cartier tank solo with a Cartier quartz movement that's beautifully decorated, stainless steel case, precious stone for the similar price as that stainless Tom Ford, AND the Cartier is not a knock off. I wonder what movement the Tom Ford has?
I wanted to get my wife a nice watch, so I could share my love of watches with her. Only problem is she would only wear Micheal Kors watches...Michael freakin’ Kors. Needless to say we are no longer together.
Shannon Stidham i understand your revulsion over michael kors but im not surprised women seem to love them ive seen a group of women salivating looking at them
Its strange whenever i see a woman with a watch its usually Michael Kors it seems like the only brand that women like
Michael kors = armani = dkny = FOSSIL
adam howman fossil ain’t even bad tho.
So you divorced her because of a watch? A bit shallow don't you think?
Bought my first mechanical piece, the Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical! Thanks for your recommendation!
great choice, I still love mine as the first day I got it.
If people are buying these, Im going to start making Barret Pedersen watches
I will only buy one if you charge $5000 upwards as that is the sign of a good watch.
Im gonna compete yours with my watch company named Sang Eeth.
You've got a fancy enough name
Nah, I'm gonna top all of y'all with my new watch line, ferien watches
Has a nice ring to it and would look good on a watch dial....
I miss these edited vids. Yeah live is fun to get the live response but i like the pics ^_^
Maybe it is made from vibranium or adamantium /:
Maybe its Maybelline
Just here to confirm. Yep, he really does answer to every question. Helped me to get my first automatic Seiko 5 Sport. Thanks
The BVLGARI Octo range is a beautiful watch from a company not known for their watches. I dislike all of their other watches, but i'd buy an Octo. Plus its inspired by Genta, whom Bvlgari own now.
They have a horologival pedigree
Magister Ludi I dont really buy watches for the resale value. I think the octo is great value for money, especially with their awesome looking inhouse movement. The stainless steel with blue dial is about $5k, in my opinion it's more beautiful than any rolex within that price range, and comparing that to the AP royaloak, Patek Nautilus or the VC overseas. It is amazing value for money
Magister Ludi definately would hurt more than any rolex, but f**k it, life is short, I tend to live in the moment and have loved the octo since its release. So I'm pretty sure I'll still buy it haha
+Anthony Bilic I like your style, don't buy a watch for the resale value, buy a watch that you love. If you love It so much, you will never want to sell it at all.
I like the assioma.
When a shoemaker also becomes a watchmaker the result is tearful.
Stuff like this feels like the televangelist "The lord said I needed this Bentley" of the watch world.
I’d rather get a Breitling or an Omega 😂
Many automatic movements are also machine made and cost not more than 100 dollars. But luxury companies charging 5000+.
I think I missed something: Where are they made?
I 100% agree with Jory. This is an important message to put out. At those prices you can get some amazing horological significant time pieces. If you are going to paying for a name - why not pay for a good watch making name? Thank you again for another excellent video :)
Im 14 and i bougjt my Tag Heuer Aquaracer for 35% off. Love it.
Good point! Told my brother the same thing. Saved him some cash.
Tom Ford is also the maker of $960 polo shirts, $1250 dollar sweatpants, $5000 off the rack suits, and $7990 Alligator sneakers.
OMG!!!! Are you seriously telling us that there are people out there that have this money but at the same time are stupid enough to actually buy these so called watches??? I guess the saying is true then..........''A fool and his money are soon parted!!''
You've graced us with 14+full minutes of T3 goodness!!!! What hath we done to deserve such a treat?!?!?!
In other words.
Thanks big J!!!!!
With Cartier you get a solid gold buckle as well.
I bet they lose 50% of their value as soon as you buy it
Ripping off people who don't know what they're buying! Another great video!
The first expensive watch I ever purchased was a Swiss watch with an automatic Soprod movement. It had a sapphire crystal and I thought it was the highest in quality. I suppose the specs are good but it was a Burberry watch so guess what???? As soon as the next season came out it became insignificant and it's worth no more than any other Burberry on Ebay, $100. MSRP was $2500
Tom Ford - dual homage watches. First for Cartier look. Second for Apple pricing.
I swear you make me laugh nearly every time I watch your rant videos! 😂😂 love your videos bro, keep it up 💯✌🏼
7:07 anyone else notice that Timepiece was misspelled Timpiece
yeah, tom ford is like invicta where they say anyone else would pay this much but we will sell it for 122.50
And people wonder why Chinese counterfeits are so popular with people like Tom Ford selling quartz watches for 10,000 with a cheap Chinese movement but assembled by some shady building on the border of Switzerland just so it can say it was Swiss made! Tom Ford watches are anything but Swiss!
Yeah I saw the watch a few days ago and for a quartz.... Nope. With a manual wind even a bit higher price it would be ok. But more expensive than the equivalent cartier tank? Nope
So are they Swiss made?
Yes. And strap made in France.
I don't think he mention it...
The description of T Ford clearly says 'TIM' piece made in Switzerland. I don't own any watch with a Tim piece in it, so that makes it pretty exclusive.
Lol, great video. What's really disturbing is that they will probably end up selling a few
In 20 years the Cartier will still be a Cartier. In 20 years the Tom Ford watch will be gathering dust in a drawer, at a pawn store, or cash for gold.
Frederick Calabrese well we dont know that
Ronda Makes a Square 2-hand Quartz Movement , the 762E. Th Swiss Made version is $17.95 on EBay. Usually when they don’t tell you something, like the exact Movement in this case, its because they are probably using something like this very basic Ronda. A movement that is probably in $50.00 watches.
I get your point here, but, the price is more for the brand. You're paying the $9,000 because it's Tom Ford. The same brand sells plain t shirts for $550 and people buy them as well.
This guys reaction is priceless! It’s like telling a hippie the amazon is burning! I wonder if he managed to get any sleep that night. Absolutely adorable.
This is by far the best watch-oriented youtube channel! Thank you!
You rock! Thank you.
Anybody who would spend that sort of money on a homage piece when they can buy the original design for less, have more money than sense.
Increadable!
You could spend £1800 on the Tom Ford thing
or
If you live in Europe you can (as i did recentty) buy a Tissot classic dream with an ETA quartz movment, sapphire crystal, stainless steel case and a brand with a heratage of over 120 year of watch making all yours including all taxes and shipping from Tiisot in Switzerland for £125.
If quartz is not your thing how about a Vostok amphibia with an inhouse automatic movment your direct from Christapol Russia including tax annd shipping for £65.
I dont want this to look like an advert for Tissot but its a good example of a watch company offering what looks like a better watch at a fraction of thhe price of the fassion brand.
just bought a gucci watch. looks great and since it's quartz it will keep time better than a rolex.
Great video... new buyers need to know this. Thank you.
Actually its a henry ford made in detroit and sells in michigan for 80 bucks , without the discount .
Unbelievable. The dial is so ugly too. Supposed to be minimalist or something but looks totally clumsy and unbalanced. Tom Ford should be ashamed of himself. Glad you pointed out you can get the real thing for cheaper. I’m sure this thing loses 90% of its value the second you buy it. It’s a straight up crime against horology.
Glad you finally did a video on this, Tom Ford is an amazing brand imo but for that price I’d rather just get a Omega :)
Tom Ford knocked it out of the park with this one! Finally a brand worse than MVMT!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Absolutely agreed, fashion brands sell GARBAGE, at the price of gold, that comparison with the Cartier is a good punch to the nose. Already if the public insists on buying garbage that I did not cry after. Greetings from Veracruz, Mexico.
maybe a $20 ronda movement, and Who is Tom Ford... Harrison's brother??
In 1995, Nautica sold a solid Sterling silver tank watch, with a genuine alligator strap for about 350 dollars. That was a good deal.
I got an ice watch dive watch with a “original japan movement”, many may think it’s an homage to pepsi rolex but actually is has its own details, and 10 atm for 150 euros, what do you think?
ICE Watches are overpriced. They are "chinese Specials", produced in China, designwhise are the most a pure copy of a rolex. If you can buy one under 80 Euros, thats ok for the quality (of their steel divers), but dont pay retail for it. they are, at the end, just the higher end of a droppshipped watch, equal to a daniel wellington, but not so agressive in marketing and not so heavy overpriced
The water resistance is probably this low becouse of the leather strap, still redicilous price for a quartz.
wow... when you started I assumed the price was going to be $1k for the steel, a crazy high price... but nope... $2200+!!! ridiculous! The gold one... you showed how ridiculous the price is by showing you can get an actual Cartie for $3k LESS... crazy pricing. Thanks for the video.
Eye opening video. I am always happy to see the book A Man and his Watch on your shelf. An old friend of mine works for the publisher on the art direction side and saw it through press. I sent her a link to your video as I knew she'd be pleased to see how well received the book was.
I've seen the exact same looking watches. At the world famous Walmart jewelry counter.
Attempting to decide between Oris Propilot, Glycine Airman dc4, Certina DS Action PH 200M, and the Hamilton Murph as a birthday present. Which one would you choose and why?
I was going to comment yesterday when I watched the video and stopped because I was pretty much speechless. Now a day later after telling my wife about the subject of the video, it actually got me frustrated that people do this. It is similar to MVMT but completely at another level. Your example of the Cartier Tank makes things so clear. I hope people do not get taken by this but history show people will. The level of arrogance from Tom Ford seems to be unmeasurable.
Money buys a lot of things, but it can’t never buys class.
No....just No!
You can get a steel reverso for a lot less
It's so hard to find a Chinese 10 year old named Swiss. That's why it cost so much.
3ATM is 3 atmospheres, at 33 feet per works out to 99 feet. Not explosive, but worth mentioning for information purposes.
Hermès is a good example of a company that one would associate with anything BUT horological clout, however they’ve been making watches since 1928 in partnership- at that time at least- with heavy-hitters like Vacheron and Jaeger LeCoultre. Sure, they have some relatively standard issue quartz models, but they’ve also got an impressive catalogue of innovative and prize-winning models of genuine horological interest- The Arceau ‘Le Temps Suspendu’ for example. A beautiful, and totally unique approach to time.
I love the Tom Ford 001 in silver I think I’m gonna buy it for my 21 birthday
Here's the thing for me, I like fashion brands and designers for clothing, (except for when it comes to watches and most jewellery)
I'd rather have a watch from a watch maker like Hamilton or Seiko as an example than a watch from Armani.
Don't get me wrong, there's exceptions here and there, but I can justify paying a premium for a fine timepiece made in Switzerland from a company who has been creating watches and making history for over a 100 years.
It's the same with jewellery, i'd rather have a real solid gold chain from a jewellery maker than a cool looking gold plated one from Versace.
If a bunch of watch brands made T-shirts, I probably wouldn't buy them either.
To be fair they can only "steal" from you if you pay them and if you buy that watch you clearly know nothing about watches and will not feel like you have been cheated.
Hermes and Chanel watches (some) have fine in house automatic movements that can be quite good....one has to decide about the price and design to determine if they are worth it to them.
You rock sir.....no idea how these companies come up with their pricing. It really is day light robbery. I am sure they will sell loads of them. People need to be educated, they just see the name and assume it must be quality
As someone who works in the industry, I can assure you our highest clients do not care about the movements and specifications. For them, it is all about aesthetics and the statement it creates on the wrist. Some of our highest valued pieces well close to $50,000 sells without any explanation but rather focusing on purely aesthetics.
I think it's a beautiful thing, a watch is a work of art and if it speaks to someone, then hey who are we to say the price isn't justified ? Just enjoy the hobby and acquire what speaks to you because it is going to be your companion.
Like "The Emperor's New Clothes"
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water... TOM FORD comes along !!! Shark ! Shark ! Shark !!!
I don't mind quartz, but 9K for a Tom Ford that's insane.
It's actually the "Timpiece" that is made in Switzerland, that is why it's so expensive.
It was made by a bloke named Tim.
You can even get a speedmaster or a stainless steel Rolex within that price
The timepiece isn't made in Switzerland, it's Timpiece. Because at that price a web site without typos isn't in their range.
The Swiss luxury watch market it’s undoubtedly a hard and competitive one. I am a TF consumer and fan, but not blind. 5k for a TF timepiece is absurd, specially when for less you can get a Jaeger leCoultre/Cartier for the same price, if not less.
You’ll get much more prestige, brand recognition, history and craftsmanship than with a TF.
All my respects to Mr. Ford, but his watches should cost beyond 2-3k$.
Good job Time Teller, paying $9000 for a Tom Ford gold tank quartz fashion watch is ridiculous when you can have a real Cartier gold automatic tank watch for $6000 to $8000. The resale value of those fashion watches are bad. Instead of buying a $2000 Tom Ford stainless steel quartz watch I will rather buy a $2000 automatic Oris Aquis or Seiko Diver watches.
😂😂😂 what were they thinking...
They charge those prices because some people are dunb enough to pay for them. Bordering on criminal really.
Quartz movements are great for fashionistas, but the fact that they're not telling us which quartz it is is stupid. I would be okay if it had a quartz movement in the same grade as Grand Seiko or ETAs highest end thermocompensated movements.
From a brand that charge you US$995 for a cotton polo shirt.
The price difference between the gold and the stainless implies gold is worth a lot more than what gold is actually worth. All things considered there is no way that watch is worth that. No way in hell.
I mean for $60 or so bucks...there’s always a Swatch. And to be honest, Swatch’s Irony series really isn’t that bad.
The Sham And Swatch is a watch company which is known for its watches.
Great watch ; great design!
The only watch with a battery inside I would buy is the Hamilton PSR and Breitling emergency, that's it. Everything else should not even exist.
Since I started collecting, I bought only 1 quartz (a vintage ZOT diver for 6$ on ebay). 50-60$ is pretty much the most i'll invest if I come across another cool quartz. ZOT's are rare but way cool.
According to mr. Tom Ford, Rolex should be charging half a mil for a sub and Patek half a billion $...
Making an acquisition about Fashion companies wearing a Ralph Lauren XD
Totally absurd, but for every product there is a buyer, smart or stupid.