Why Malzahar counters Zyra?
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Well, surely not because one of them is bugged x).
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My anti zyra brain likes this
Are you a Malzahar supporter? I'm calling the police...
@@JumpscareRodent no I just hate zyra
@@JumpscareRodent i passionetly hate malza since fizz r doesn't stay on him after passive proc. Few years ago he was denying just slow from fizz r now he just doesn't take easy bait :(
@@EeveeRealSenpai an enemy of our enemy is our friend after all
Malzahar is way worse
He got annoyed for too long by having his summons be instantly countered that he started countering others \ o /
As a Zyra main, that's nothing, wait until you see an Irelia dashing trough your plants to reach you, that's true terror.
And like a millisecond later: IONIA CALLS
As a new Zyra main from arena, it’s safe to say that catching Irelia with your E and then full combo to kill her when she Q’s one of your plants for granted is satisfying af. Truly teaching them to think twice before diving in 😊
Fair enough if you play Zyra
Minionmancer leaving some good old emotional damage around here
Malz is just dishing out what he’s had to deal with for years.
This bug exists atleast since patch 13.18. I play a lot of Zyra Mid and Malzahar was usually a better matchup for her, but since this bug exists this matchup is way harder.
Wow, thats quite some time then!
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Yeah it's been out for a while now, and I swear Brand had something similar like this, where his E would insta kill some of Zyra's plants
@@turbohotvedt Morde Q one-shots plants if they're isolated. Which makes no sense as it's still an AoE ability regardless of the damage. MF auto doesn't one-shot it or deal more damage because of her passive
@@AidanWRit used to, actually. Mf was a good zyra counterpick for that reason when she was dominant. Got specifically changed
is fair , the enemy can oneshot Voidlings
Riot should rework all summon champions to actually work around summons
@@hanshysher6266 yorick does
@@hanshysher6266 zyra does too,it is more a malzahar thing
@@vitorbordini5246 I mean malzahar as well but his summons are as thin as paper so you cant rely on them unless there is a) no enemy or b) a hard cced enemy.
and when his minions where actually able to tank stuff they where disgusting.
I remembered when Malz jung was a thing, his voidlings are op af both in clear speed and damage to champs
I’ve noticed this bug for months now especially in arena where Zyra is often pick, I always tend to react with malz whenever I see one in the enemy team
you should have told me this before, im gonna do this now on
imagine counterpicking in a for fun gamemode, youre probably a bruiser abuser too
@@asd-ww4nk Zyra removes the entire aspect of having fun. Nothing wrong with counterpicking such a disgusting champ
Malzahar number one enemy of vegans
q q vc tá fazendo aqui veigar anão!?
Malzhar just airdropped a 10 hour montage of deforestation to those plants and they just disappeared in fear
Thats why i love the naafiri mu. The little dogs always goes back to him so the dot jumps to him every time.
her?
Goes back to who?
man this statement is all over the place.
Shhh don't tell them ;)
@@EeveeRealSenpai Naafiri. They forgot Naafiri was a woman before becoming a pack of dogs.
Makes you wonder that, with all her talk about how being a plurality being better, would she prefer "they"? Or does she still see herself as one being despite the multiple bodies?
Shes a fictional character so her outlook isnt going to change, but one does have to wonder how duch a state would change a person's sense of self. If shes "of two minds" about something, would those PoVs be represented literally by diffrent dogs?
This used to happen as well with heimerdinger turrets. one shot was enough to kill each plant.
wait, UR 1Msub, congratulation man
a well deserved milestone for one of the last few creative league content creator out there
caedrel buff
The best thing is, you can't cancel his E!
@@Vandirilthe worst* 😭
it looks like his malefic vision works like statikk when they're really close together
This explains a lot. I was in a game against a Malz a while back and it felt like my plants just didn't exist for most of it but I wasn't sure what was happening.
There's a client bug if you click the "view profile" after finishing a game. You are stuck forever untill you restart the client.
@vandiril the same thing also happens with heimerdinger turrets targetting zyra plants I'm pretty sure, last I checked his q turrets auto executed zyra plants
Let me guess it has something to do with it being coded as a minion ?
No wonder 5 of my plants disappeared like a bubble earlier when we had clash... sucks...
I've done this a lot of times in ARAM but not sure why it happened
Btw zeri passive auto can execute zyra plants as well
there is a bug with the convert ad to ap with Jana or her allies they keep losing ap with her E
this is patched already
can you cancel it?
Works with any dot effect. Hwei also kills them instantly with QE
What about E plants, empowered by R ?
I thought I went crazy, I saw this today on live servers in my game. Zyra plants were ulted and somehow they disappeared out of nowhere. I remember it so well cuz I was gonna jump with jax onto them but now I know why they instantly died to malz...
i would think that this is an interaction between the Malz execution of minions with the E over the plants with less health that are the zyra's Q ones. Something like: if enemy minion is below x health execute. and it just repeats every tic/check
The problem is her q and e plants dont have different amounts of health, or different amount of damage taken.
Both have 8 health, increased to 12 during her ult(with melee autos doing 8 damage, ranged doing 4, single target 8, aoe 4, and dot 2).
Yet only her q plants die instantly.
This has been like this for a long time tho?
Zyra plants are hella weird. Karma can mantra (ult) W to instakill the plant and also get the first part of the w’s heal if anyone needed a good matchup
This bug appeared when Rito changed Malefic Vision's tick speed. Of course, rito doesn't care. I can post any bug, but they won't fix it. There is a seven-year-old bug with Zyra. Her enraged plants don't rotate. (They changed plants' hp at season 7). Also. Shaco's boxes and Heimer's turrets are 'two' shooting plants. And you know these have rapid fire. Previously, it worked fine (before S7 "rework")
I don’t understand? It’s only when they’re all super stacked close to each other that Malz E can one shot them fast? Because when they’re somewhat spreaded, they burned slower? Am I missing something?
I think it's Q plants vs E plants
built-in statikk shiv on malzahar
After the execution buff on Malzahar E. This happened. So in a way it happened after the E buff patch.
Seems odd that its only the q plants though
Naafiri is worse. If Malz e's her dogos after she hit him with q and she jumps away in a safe distance, the dogos port to her and die, so the e from Malz transferrs to Naafiri
video for Caedrel
Who is that
Didnt know this was a bug, I've been using it for a while
I think it's just an interaction with his E execution threshhold.
This happens due the plants from Zyra had just 8HP and Malzahar E execute MINIONS in the range of minimun 10HP (escalating with lvl) meaning all the Q plants dies instatly. This happen because all the plants are coded as MINIONS
This goes back all the way to season 6 or so when Malz was used to counter Zyra supp at worlds. Same goes for MF and her E
Zyra plants get one shot by anything except auto attacks apparently
Not by Morgana W. In the early stages at least which is why zyra is listed as a counter I believe
Love to see that
Kayle also oneshots her plants since her aoe autos count as a spell and an aa at the same time
rito games ladies and yentlemen
I've always used this in ARAM games if i see a zyra in enemy team. Very useful on hitting peiple with E
Malzahar: It's free real estate.
Hasn't this always been a thing even before his rework?
aight. time to try malzahar support then.
Nice ty for sharing a zyra counter
spaghetti is riot duty
Malzahar, my beloved. ♥️
xayah e does damage all over the maps to champs that dashes atm for example jarven eq
I played this evening on ARAM and I guess there works with both plants. No, im pretty sure, all plants got eggcecuted.
Is that the reason why zyra/malzahare Support was so good back in 2017?
As an adc main this year still gives me potsdam.
malzahar is eating his veggies
*Crying hysterically*
ok, what is this spaghetti ? How is it even possible to do something like this ?
I see this on aram 23 days ago.
If the bug gets fixed i hope that Malzahar's W will get aoe rezistance.. it's too easy to sweep them =((
True. I forgot which summons but in Dota 2 most if not all summons that are not just one or two has 50% AOE resistance no questions asked. This is to prevent them getting one short by AOE spells. While also not making AOE spells useless, it's like somewhere in between.
Best summons that are not ults are always from "tanks" or what I feel they are like Yorick, also, Yorick's goul has this property: Mist Walkers take 50% damage from area of effect abilities and monsters. Single targeted spells and attacks including a turret shot, will instantly kill Mist Walkers. Just look up in wiki in pets section.
I encountered this bug when teaching my Zyra main friend that Malzahar should be a fair-ish matchup and use the plants to extend the amount of time you can run away from a wave , lets just say... it didn't play out like that LMAO
It is perfect.
I never know zyra's R can empower her plants
i approve of this, lets call it a feature
I actually killed a Zyra doing it some days ago, the E jumped from her plants and she had low HP
wait this is not intended interaction???? malzahar main for like year or two and thought that zyra q/r is just little bit squishy lmao
Try with naafiri
Thought thats extra xd Played one time Malz and used it for easy clearing
I knew he would delete Q plants, I didn’t know E plants actually survive his e for a while.
It’s weird, because generally Zyra wins hard against shorter range mages and then there is malzahar just deleting her damage source. :(
Heiners turrets 1-shots them all instantly too. Hes another great counter
Same shit with Shaco boxes, Malz pets, Heimer turrets and Yorick ghouls. They all execute plants in one hit. Shaco was her worst counter for years because of that. Even R empowered plants get deleted in one box shot
Classic Riot spaghetti code.
Honestly they should keep it that way
why ? hasn't she weak enough ?
Can we just put it on the E plants too and call it
I realized that playing Aram 3 weeks ago.
I think it's very unfair some champions can one shot Zyra plants, while others needs like 2 skills or 3 auto attacks.
You're OA, auto-attacks are still free.
Riot fix : Vanguard, you will not play at all
Malz stocks are rising up!
Hypothesis: Zyra plants are, like everything in LoL, are coded as minions. Malz E has an execute on low HP minions. E go Brrrrrrrr.
Solution, buff the health of zyra plants.
Plants are also counted as minions...
I'd imagine thats what they are, right Rito?
Next STep, find some Zyra or Malz Players in League
thats how it should work
Malzahar Wet Dream when?
Aram player here and i like what am I seeing here.
This hits harder than MF counter
So now they just need to update this and make her E minions die in the same way
Not me realizing Zyra ult empowers plants 😅😅😅
I am fine with this
Nice
what a welcome malazahar buff in times where zyra has the fastest clear in the game. at least they "buffed" his execute mechanic to tick remotely as often as asols xdd
If we are at it:
Why Zyra and Malzahar counters graves?
*sometimes his autoattacks deal 0 damage on Plants/Voidlings*
well deserved for Zyra 😂
Vandiril please now I won't be able to use Malzahar support to screw over Zyra players :(
They should patch this and make it so she gets executed alongside her plants too
lovely
Теперь буду брать мальзахара на бот, чтобы контрить зайру, спасибо!
I hope this is intended
Not really a bug, but TF in arenas can farm a frankly silly amount of gold on Sett rounds by just hard pumping him. I farmed 7000 gold in one round doing it.
that happend with morde like 2 months... anyone check that
i play zyra as my 1st main but i just leave her because her plants are weak (The unique damage that she have) its fucking stupid
i can't hit akali, viego, shaco, etc etc with NOTHING of damage and the plants in midgame are just insta oneshoted
fucking riot
Sometimes i wonder if anyone else thinks talon crying like a baby is hum being done justice
Obviously Zyra plants were made by different LoL departments.
You know... to spice things up.