Why Malzahar counters Zyra?

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  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
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Komentáře • 271

  • @EeveeRealSenpai
    @EeveeRealSenpai Před měsícem +1515

    My anti zyra brain likes this

    • @JumpscareRodent
      @JumpscareRodent Před měsícem +35

      Are you a Malzahar supporter? I'm calling the police...

    • @EeveeRealSenpai
      @EeveeRealSenpai Před měsícem +94

      @@JumpscareRodent no I just hate zyra

    • @thaib2724
      @thaib2724 Před měsícem +3

      @@JumpscareRodent i passionetly hate malza since fizz r doesn't stay on him after passive proc. Few years ago he was denying just slow from fizz r now he just doesn't take easy bait :(

    • @plasmodius9449
      @plasmodius9449 Před měsícem +24

      @@EeveeRealSenpai an enemy of our enemy is our friend after all

    • @SonicDarkSnake42069
      @SonicDarkSnake42069 Před měsícem +2

      Malzahar is way worse

  • @ZoryArky
    @ZoryArky Před měsícem +609

    He got annoyed for too long by having his summons be instantly countered that he started countering others \ o /

  • @danielclv97
    @danielclv97 Před měsícem +67

    As a Zyra main, that's nothing, wait until you see an Irelia dashing trough your plants to reach you, that's true terror.

    • @redpuzzy6266
      @redpuzzy6266 Před 24 dny +2

      And like a millisecond later: IONIA CALLS

    • @davidyk327
      @davidyk327 Před 23 dny

      As a new Zyra main from arena, it’s safe to say that catching Irelia with your E and then full combo to kill her when she Q’s one of your plants for granted is satisfying af. Truly teaching them to think twice before diving in 😊

  • @psycele2859
    @psycele2859 Před měsícem +604

    Fair enough if you play Zyra

    • @LDDim
      @LDDim Před měsícem

      Minionmancer leaving some good old emotional damage around here

  • @eonarose
    @eonarose Před měsícem +74

    Malz is just dishing out what he’s had to deal with for years.

  • @PurerErzbengel
    @PurerErzbengel Před měsícem +173

    This bug exists atleast since patch 13.18. I play a lot of Zyra Mid and Malzahar was usually a better matchup for her, but since this bug exists this matchup is way harder.

    • @Vandiril
      @Vandiril  Před měsícem +42

      Wow, thats quite some time then!

    • @wolhol
      @wolhol Před měsícem +2

      🤓

    • @turbohotvedt
      @turbohotvedt Před měsícem +5

      Yeah it's been out for a while now, and I swear Brand had something similar like this, where his E would insta kill some of Zyra's plants

    • @AidanWR
      @AidanWR Před měsícem +1

      @@turbohotvedt Morde Q one-shots plants if they're isolated. Which makes no sense as it's still an AoE ability regardless of the damage. MF auto doesn't one-shot it or deal more damage because of her passive

    • @dde8721
      @dde8721 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@AidanWRit used to, actually. Mf was a good zyra counterpick for that reason when she was dominant. Got specifically changed

  • @sxato798
    @sxato798 Před měsícem +199

    is fair , the enemy can oneshot Voidlings

    • @hanshysher6266
      @hanshysher6266 Před měsícem +22

      Riot should rework all summon champions to actually work around summons

    • @tuyoufpazic5746
      @tuyoufpazic5746 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@hanshysher6266 yorick does

    • @vitorbordini5246
      @vitorbordini5246 Před měsícem

      ​@@hanshysher6266 zyra does too,it is more a malzahar thing

    • @Zelos128
      @Zelos128 Před měsícem +4

      @@vitorbordini5246 I mean malzahar as well but his summons are as thin as paper so you cant rely on them unless there is a) no enemy or b) a hard cced enemy.
      and when his minions where actually able to tank stuff they where disgusting.

    • @rempacious
      @rempacious Před měsícem

      I remembered when Malz jung was a thing, his voidlings are op af both in clear speed and damage to champs

  • @HMoonHunter
    @HMoonHunter Před měsícem +140

    I’ve noticed this bug for months now especially in arena where Zyra is often pick, I always tend to react with malz whenever I see one in the enemy team

    • @gelertfire
      @gelertfire Před měsícem +1

      you should have told me this before, im gonna do this now on

    • @asd-ww4nk
      @asd-ww4nk Před měsícem +1

      imagine counterpicking in a for fun gamemode, youre probably a bruiser abuser too

    • @h4xnslash900
      @h4xnslash900 Před měsícem

      @@asd-ww4nk Zyra removes the entire aspect of having fun. Nothing wrong with counterpicking such a disgusting champ

  • @DwarfVeigar
    @DwarfVeigar Před měsícem +9

    Malzahar number one enemy of vegans

  • @alexandershort9024
    @alexandershort9024 Před měsícem +10

    Malzhar just airdropped a 10 hour montage of deforestation to those plants and they just disappeared in fear

  • @cirqusboy
    @cirqusboy Před měsícem +20

    Thats why i love the naafiri mu. The little dogs always goes back to him so the dot jumps to him every time.

    • @analytixna6610
      @analytixna6610 Před měsícem +13

      her?

    • @EeveeRealSenpai
      @EeveeRealSenpai Před měsícem +4

      Goes back to who?

    • @cyberleo1245
      @cyberleo1245 Před měsícem +2

      man this statement is all over the place.

    • @loha2288
      @loha2288 Před měsícem

      Shhh don't tell them ;)

    • @the_last_ballad
      @the_last_ballad Před měsícem +1

      ​@@EeveeRealSenpai Naafiri. They forgot Naafiri was a woman before becoming a pack of dogs.
      Makes you wonder that, with all her talk about how being a plurality being better, would she prefer "they"? Or does she still see herself as one being despite the multiple bodies?
      Shes a fictional character so her outlook isnt going to change, but one does have to wonder how duch a state would change a person's sense of self. If shes "of two minds" about something, would those PoVs be represented literally by diffrent dogs?

  • @ElRoba97
    @ElRoba97 Před měsícem +9

    This used to happen as well with heimerdinger turrets. one shot was enough to kill each plant.

  • @mtn66amassuonoobpawa35
    @mtn66amassuonoobpawa35 Před měsícem

    wait, UR 1Msub, congratulation man
    a well deserved milestone for one of the last few creative league content creator out there

  • @KhoiNguyen-gl4kt
    @KhoiNguyen-gl4kt Před měsícem +55

    caedrel buff

    • @Vandiril
      @Vandiril  Před měsícem +32

      The best thing is, you can't cancel his E!

    • @tarekhaned7225
      @tarekhaned7225 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@Vandirilthe worst* 😭

  • @Blitzkit
    @Blitzkit Před měsícem +1

    it looks like his malefic vision works like statikk when they're really close together

  • @Kingofredeyes
    @Kingofredeyes Před měsícem +1

    This explains a lot. I was in a game against a Malz a while back and it felt like my plants just didn't exist for most of it but I wasn't sure what was happening.

  • @pixelmz
    @pixelmz Před měsícem

    There's a client bug if you click the "view profile" after finishing a game. You are stuck forever untill you restart the client.

  • @dpbw0w
    @dpbw0w Před měsícem

    @vandiril the same thing also happens with heimerdinger turrets targetting zyra plants I'm pretty sure, last I checked his q turrets auto executed zyra plants

  • @cringecompilation8105
    @cringecompilation8105 Před měsícem +3

    Let me guess it has something to do with it being coded as a minion ?

  • @JV10q
    @JV10q Před měsícem +1

    No wonder 5 of my plants disappeared like a bubble earlier when we had clash... sucks...

  • @1997CreepeR7991
    @1997CreepeR7991 Před měsícem

    I've done this a lot of times in ARAM but not sure why it happened

  • @pricklyprickle
    @pricklyprickle Před měsícem +3

    Btw zeri passive auto can execute zyra plants as well

  • @rngshadow3333
    @rngshadow3333 Před měsícem

    there is a bug with the convert ad to ap with Jana or her allies they keep losing ap with her E

  • @NguyenHongHiepK16_HCM
    @NguyenHongHiepK16_HCM Před měsícem

    can you cancel it?

  • @krissparrrow
    @krissparrrow Před měsícem +2

    Works with any dot effect. Hwei also kills them instantly with QE

  • @HeartYgo
    @HeartYgo Před měsícem

    What about E plants, empowered by R ?

  • @PartyMain
    @PartyMain Před měsícem +1

    I thought I went crazy, I saw this today on live servers in my game. Zyra plants were ulted and somehow they disappeared out of nowhere. I remember it so well cuz I was gonna jump with jax onto them but now I know why they instantly died to malz...

  • @diegoclaw000
    @diegoclaw000 Před měsícem

    i would think that this is an interaction between the Malz execution of minions with the E over the plants with less health that are the zyra's Q ones. Something like: if enemy minion is below x health execute. and it just repeats every tic/check

    • @the_last_ballad
      @the_last_ballad Před měsícem +1

      The problem is her q and e plants dont have different amounts of health, or different amount of damage taken.
      Both have 8 health, increased to 12 during her ult(with melee autos doing 8 damage, ranged doing 4, single target 8, aoe 4, and dot 2).
      Yet only her q plants die instantly.

  • @zawarrudo3930
    @zawarrudo3930 Před měsícem

    This has been like this for a long time tho?

  • @kqmden
    @kqmden Před měsícem +1

    Zyra plants are hella weird. Karma can mantra (ult) W to instakill the plant and also get the first part of the w’s heal if anyone needed a good matchup

  • @lesbazyra
    @lesbazyra Před měsícem +1

    This bug appeared when Rito changed Malefic Vision's tick speed. Of course, rito doesn't care. I can post any bug, but they won't fix it. There is a seven-year-old bug with Zyra. Her enraged plants don't rotate. (They changed plants' hp at season 7). Also. Shaco's boxes and Heimer's turrets are 'two' shooting plants. And you know these have rapid fire. Previously, it worked fine (before S7 "rework")

  • @Malphaze
    @Malphaze Před měsícem

    I don’t understand? It’s only when they’re all super stacked close to each other that Malz E can one shot them fast? Because when they’re somewhat spreaded, they burned slower? Am I missing something?

    • @ZeekCannon
      @ZeekCannon Před 29 dny

      I think it's Q plants vs E plants

  • @foxisadog_
    @foxisadog_ Před měsícem +1

    built-in statikk shiv on malzahar

  • @loha2288
    @loha2288 Před měsícem +1

    After the execution buff on Malzahar E. This happened. So in a way it happened after the E buff patch.

  • @silasbeckmann4223
    @silasbeckmann4223 Před měsícem +1

    Naafiri is worse. If Malz e's her dogos after she hit him with q and she jumps away in a safe distance, the dogos port to her and die, so the e from Malz transferrs to Naafiri

  • @geraltkundolap6767
    @geraltkundolap6767 Před měsícem +24

    video for Caedrel

  • @infinitexgg
    @infinitexgg Před 21 dnem

    Didnt know this was a bug, I've been using it for a while

  • @reyeldoggo
    @reyeldoggo Před měsícem

    I think it's just an interaction with his E execution threshhold.

  • @kingdeedee9237
    @kingdeedee9237 Před 2 dny

    This happens due the plants from Zyra had just 8HP and Malzahar E execute MINIONS in the range of minimun 10HP (escalating with lvl) meaning all the Q plants dies instatly. This happen because all the plants are coded as MINIONS

  • @DarioB_
    @DarioB_ Před 21 dnem

    This goes back all the way to season 6 or so when Malz was used to counter Zyra supp at worlds. Same goes for MF and her E

  • @imRileyWilliams
    @imRileyWilliams Před měsícem +2

    Zyra plants get one shot by anything except auto attacks apparently

    • @stargazer3759
      @stargazer3759 Před měsícem

      Not by Morgana W. In the early stages at least which is why zyra is listed as a counter I believe

  • @Buzk_4
    @Buzk_4 Před měsícem +1

    Love to see that

  • @xviolaa
    @xviolaa Před měsícem

    Kayle also oneshots her plants since her aoe autos count as a spell and an aa at the same time

  • @bhaalad
    @bhaalad Před měsícem +9

    rito games ladies and yentlemen

  • @ghostslit666
    @ghostslit666 Před měsícem

    I've always used this in ARAM games if i see a zyra in enemy team. Very useful on hitting peiple with E

  • @MEGAZ920
    @MEGAZ920 Před měsícem

    Malzahar: It's free real estate.

  • @Cloudeh
    @Cloudeh Před měsícem

    Hasn't this always been a thing even before his rework?

  • @HauteClair
    @HauteClair Před měsícem

    aight. time to try malzahar support then.

  • @kador7182
    @kador7182 Před měsícem

    Nice ty for sharing a zyra counter

  • @alpakamcdviii9889
    @alpakamcdviii9889 Před měsícem

    spaghetti is riot duty

  • @KoboldCloaca
    @KoboldCloaca Před měsícem

    Malzahar, my beloved. ♥️

  • @devin1813
    @devin1813 Před měsícem

    xayah e does damage all over the maps to champs that dashes atm for example jarven eq

  • @spielemeister9488
    @spielemeister9488 Před měsícem

    I played this evening on ARAM and I guess there works with both plants. No, im pretty sure, all plants got eggcecuted.

  • @FlingyFlongyBouncu
    @FlingyFlongyBouncu Před měsícem

    Is that the reason why zyra/malzahare Support was so good back in 2017?
    As an adc main this year still gives me potsdam.

  • @yolosilvia2005
    @yolosilvia2005 Před měsícem

    malzahar is eating his veggies

  • @MysticBlueFox
    @MysticBlueFox Před měsícem

    *Crying hysterically*

  • @Loshe_
    @Loshe_ Před měsícem

    ok, what is this spaghetti ? How is it even possible to do something like this ?

  • @Zvezni
    @Zvezni Před měsícem

    I see this on aram 23 days ago.

  • @alexandrudinu1928
    @alexandrudinu1928 Před měsícem +1

    If the bug gets fixed i hope that Malzahar's W will get aoe rezistance.. it's too easy to sweep them =((

    • @MangaGamified
      @MangaGamified Před měsícem

      True. I forgot which summons but in Dota 2 most if not all summons that are not just one or two has 50% AOE resistance no questions asked. This is to prevent them getting one short by AOE spells. While also not making AOE spells useless, it's like somewhere in between.
      Best summons that are not ults are always from "tanks" or what I feel they are like Yorick, also, Yorick's goul has this property: Mist Walkers take 50% damage from area of effect abilities and monsters. Single targeted spells and attacks including a turret shot, will instantly kill Mist Walkers. Just look up in wiki in pets section.

  • @Vanilla-Stinky-Heals
    @Vanilla-Stinky-Heals Před měsícem

    I encountered this bug when teaching my Zyra main friend that Malzahar should be a fair-ish matchup and use the plants to extend the amount of time you can run away from a wave , lets just say... it didn't play out like that LMAO

  • @protectorlord8054
    @protectorlord8054 Před měsícem

    It is perfect.

  • @hsuchiakao9436
    @hsuchiakao9436 Před 22 dny

    I never know zyra's R can empower her plants

  • @maxineshideout852
    @maxineshideout852 Před měsícem

    i approve of this, lets call it a feature

  • @mateusjfernandes
    @mateusjfernandes Před měsícem

    I actually killed a Zyra doing it some days ago, the E jumped from her plants and she had low HP

  • @user-ne8xx4ls2q
    @user-ne8xx4ls2q Před měsícem

    wait this is not intended interaction???? malzahar main for like year or two and thought that zyra q/r is just little bit squishy lmao

  • @sisas8675
    @sisas8675 Před měsícem

    Try with naafiri

  • @PultsMoizer
    @PultsMoizer Před měsícem

    Thought thats extra xd Played one time Malz and used it for easy clearing

  • @tomwanders6022
    @tomwanders6022 Před měsícem

    I knew he would delete Q plants, I didn’t know E plants actually survive his e for a while.
    It’s weird, because generally Zyra wins hard against shorter range mages and then there is malzahar just deleting her damage source. :(

  • @CoolMovieBro
    @CoolMovieBro Před měsícem

    Heiners turrets 1-shots them all instantly too. Hes another great counter

  • @stanislavmegued554
    @stanislavmegued554 Před měsícem

    Same shit with Shaco boxes, Malz pets, Heimer turrets and Yorick ghouls. They all execute plants in one hit. Shaco was her worst counter for years because of that. Even R empowered plants get deleted in one box shot

  • @Ilposeidonll
    @Ilposeidonll Před měsícem

    Classic Riot spaghetti code.

  • @Cardboard_Cut
    @Cardboard_Cut Před měsícem +1

    Honestly they should keep it that way

  • @k-zero8197
    @k-zero8197 Před měsícem

    why ? hasn't she weak enough ?

  • @suuyaa1337
    @suuyaa1337 Před měsícem

    Can we just put it on the E plants too and call it

  • @ThiagoMnab
    @ThiagoMnab Před měsícem

    I realized that playing Aram 3 weeks ago.
    I think it's very unfair some champions can one shot Zyra plants, while others needs like 2 skills or 3 auto attacks.

    • @MangaGamified
      @MangaGamified Před měsícem

      You're OA, auto-attacks are still free.

  • @skzstyle
    @skzstyle Před měsícem

    Riot fix : Vanguard, you will not play at all

  • @Matsupitsu2nd
    @Matsupitsu2nd Před měsícem

    Malz stocks are rising up!

  • @evanfelch7689
    @evanfelch7689 Před měsícem +1

    Hypothesis: Zyra plants are, like everything in LoL, are coded as minions. Malz E has an execute on low HP minions. E go Brrrrrrrr.
    Solution, buff the health of zyra plants.

  • @nublockswest8344
    @nublockswest8344 Před měsícem

    Plants are also counted as minions...
    I'd imagine thats what they are, right Rito?

  • @MA-gh1vl
    @MA-gh1vl Před 22 dny

    Next STep, find some Zyra or Malz Players in League

  • @MysticZefer
    @MysticZefer Před měsícem +1

    thats how it should work

  • @ByakurenEnjoyer
    @ByakurenEnjoyer Před měsícem

    Malzahar Wet Dream when?

  • @uruHanz
    @uruHanz Před měsícem

    Aram player here and i like what am I seeing here.

  • @victor-oh
    @victor-oh Před měsícem

    This hits harder than MF counter

  • @CallMeBoxes
    @CallMeBoxes Před měsícem

    So now they just need to update this and make her E minions die in the same way

  • @xGvPTVx
    @xGvPTVx Před 28 dny

    Not me realizing Zyra ult empowers plants 😅😅😅

  • @reflecsion2551
    @reflecsion2551 Před měsícem

    I am fine with this

  • @ToxicFrogZ-
    @ToxicFrogZ- Před měsícem +1

    Nice

  • @aezyn8645
    @aezyn8645 Před měsícem

    what a welcome malazahar buff in times where zyra has the fastest clear in the game. at least they "buffed" his execute mechanic to tick remotely as often as asols xdd

  • @TheBastianschulz
    @TheBastianschulz Před měsícem

    If we are at it:
    Why Zyra and Malzahar counters graves?
    *sometimes his autoattacks deal 0 damage on Plants/Voidlings*

  • @ricomambozero3811
    @ricomambozero3811 Před měsícem +1

    well deserved for Zyra 😂

  • @faloughasch9239
    @faloughasch9239 Před měsícem

    Vandiril please now I won't be able to use Malzahar support to screw over Zyra players :(

  • @pamonha20
    @pamonha20 Před měsícem +1

    They should patch this and make it so she gets executed alongside her plants too

  • @lexrodriguez3633
    @lexrodriguez3633 Před měsícem

    lovely

  • @TheCktulhu
    @TheCktulhu Před měsícem

    Теперь буду брать мальзахара на бот, чтобы контрить зайру, спасибо!

  • @BOMBOCLAAAAT13
    @BOMBOCLAAAAT13 Před měsícem

    I hope this is intended

  • @Sdogofdoom
    @Sdogofdoom Před měsícem

    Not really a bug, but TF in arenas can farm a frankly silly amount of gold on Sett rounds by just hard pumping him. I farmed 7000 gold in one round doing it.

  • @drluca1194
    @drluca1194 Před měsícem

    that happend with morde like 2 months... anyone check that
    i play zyra as my 1st main but i just leave her because her plants are weak (The unique damage that she have) its fucking stupid
    i can't hit akali, viego, shaco, etc etc with NOTHING of damage and the plants in midgame are just insta oneshoted
    fucking riot

  • @Art51151
    @Art51151 Před měsícem

    Sometimes i wonder if anyone else thinks talon crying like a baby is hum being done justice

  • @PlaceOfDestination
    @PlaceOfDestination Před měsícem

    Obviously Zyra plants were made by different LoL departments.
    You know... to spice things up.