How To: Sharpen a Knife with a 2x72 Belt Grinder
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- čas přidán 19. 03. 2021
- I have discovered that I use my 2x72 Belt Grinder more for sharpening than I do my Tormek Sharpening system. Let me show you my secrets to getting a razor sharp edge in just a few minutes using a tool you most likely already have.
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Mine is on the way, it will be the most used tool in the shop!! Thanks
I am just using the kit I bought from you for the first time today. I ignored your salient advice to try a junk knife first, and went straight to the carving knife we need for Thanksgiving today. The system works fantastic, even in a novice's hands! I love that the position is up high where I can see what's happening and maintain good position. The misting system works perfect and is easily adjusted to keep the belt moist but not spray all over. This is an excellent use for my Revolution grinder!
Thanks again for showing the mister. I got mine setup and it works great. What I did is to loosen the platen plate and push it to the rear. Then I used the area between the platen rollers to sharpen my knives. To me it is a more comfortable area to hold the knives. The first blade I did was my axe. It did a fantastic job. It ended up having almost a mirror finish on the blade. I love it. Thanks again.
Can’t wait to try this out when it arrives. Great video walk through
Like your style man
Thank you Gene.
Super nice, thanks Brian.
Glad you enjoyed it!!
Good kit you have there! Very tempted to get myself one of those.
Thanks for sharing and putting the kit together. I got one before the video was even over. I really like how you use the air to pump the water and not a pump that sold me. Thanks
Thank you Garet! This was a game changer for me when learning to put an edge on a knife. Not a lot of info out there on that.
Great vid excellent info Thank You 🙏
Nice job
Thank you Joe! 💪🏻
This mister was a great addition to my shop! As always, nice video Brian👍🏻
Hell yeah Bryan! I appreciate you watching as always.
Love your vids
Thank you Dan!
Hello Brian, a very nice additional benefit to owning a Revolution belt grinder! it's good to see yo back on CZcams, I hope you are felling better.
Thanks Millar! I appreciate you as always! 💪🏻😁
Finally about to test mine out thanks for the great video
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Amazing! 💥 👏🏽
Great vid! You make it looks so easy! Great explained and good tips!
Thank you Andreas!! 💪🏻😁
Very nice
Thank you sir!!
Yup been hitting them like this
Awesome video - thank you very much!
Thank you!! 💪🏻😁
I have to agree, using a belt grinder is the easiest way to make a knife very sharp. I have a Harbor Freight 1x30 that I use all the time. My favorite belt is an 800 grit aluminum oxide. Water seems like a nice addition, but I don't see how I could get any sharper.
Yes, I agree - no water needed!
Dang! That's a really sweet kit! I love the magnetic mister. That's super nice. Drilling and tapping for your mister is a real pain than if you decide you don't like its location then you have to do it all over again.
100% agree. The magnet allows for quick removal too if you need to get rid of it. Or move it to another tool.
Great idea using the mister to keep the edges cool and not loose their temper!
Thanks Ben!! 💪🏻😁
Yup! That’s how it’s done!👏👏👏.
I’m looking forward to hearing more about this set up in a future episode of your Work For It podcast, Brian.
Every Thursday on my podcast app.
H⚡️W 👍🏻
That was really cool 😎
Thank you Eric!! 🙌🏻
Hooray!! He's back!!
Great job, Brian. That Gen 4 looks sweeeeet, dude. When space allows, I'm definitely going to hit you up!
Boom 🤜💥🤛
Thanks Pete!! 🙌🏻
Keep grinding buddy!
Thanks Mike!!
Great video, very pro! - Cam’s Aunt.
Hey . . . How AWESOME of a system to sharpen almost anything!!! I think I will bring over a few knives from the drawer . . . Your Mom keeps complaining about how dull they are. Also, the OLD CLEVER that was used so many times on the farm . . . what memories!! Thanks for getting it nice and sharp. If we decide to go back to a GENTLEMAN'S FARM . . . . I might have to RECLAIM the CLEVER. Another super fine video with amazing SHARPNESS !!!
I’ll train you how to sharpen knives so you can make a little extra cash during retirement! 😂 Glad you liked the vid. The cleaver is all I have left from the farm.
@@HouseMadeUS Nice thought. I will sharpen what we have in the drawer and knife holder . . . then on to another project that is very UPLIFTING . . . so to speak . . . and you know what I mean.
I love when Dad’s leave comments. 😁👍🏼
I hope to buy/build one of your grinders soon,looks fantastic and will be good to replace my China one!!!
Yes! 🙏🏼
Great system! I would not do this without a mist system, it's been shown many times over to degrade the hardness at the edge significantly. With a mist system you are good to go! Still need to try the Norax belts. Great walk through 👍
Easy choice, quick and efficient! 🙌🏻
Maybe if you lower the RPM and don’t stay too long on one segment of the knife. Also pause in between passes then you prob will avoid overheating your knife edge.
@@norakat micro Vickers hardness testing at the very edge has shown that without water it's almost impossible to to not affect the hardness at the very edge. After a few sharpenings on stones that area can be removed, but water mist is such a simple and cheap solution I don't know why people refuse to try it.
I’ll take one.
I have been thinking about getting a misting system. You may have pushed me over the edge!
Thanks Tyrell. Its worth every penny!!
It’s so easy on a 2x72. I used to use a whetstone and then work sharp and now just my grinder lol literally get razor sharp in less than a minute
100% agree. I have tried all of those same methods and this one is by far faster and more efficient. Cheers!!
I don't normally comment but man your production quality is up there with the 2m+ ytbers. Also great narration and to the point. It's a shame it took 3 months of related videos to see one of these pop up. Mostly searching for black smithing.
Thank you so much 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Every time you run your finger along those edges my skin crawls :D
Haha! Yeah I agree. Its risky biz! Hehe!
I just got all my parts cutout to make a gen 4 and currently designing a surface grinder attachment to suit but having troubles finding motor and wheels in Australia, any suggestions motor needs to be 240v
Right on, Brian! I was just wondering yesterday if you could use a water Mist while knife-making, to reduce the amount of heat built up in the Steel. It looks like that is doable! Great info, keep up the great work!
Thank you Jon!! Cheers man!
@@jefferyyancey1616 not when you’re sharpening.
Love your technique from begging to end and I totally agree with your comments on the Tormek system as well. Had a look at the FAQs section on your page so will ask herein...
wondering if I could use just a small 12v air pump to power the water spray system or do you feel an actual workshop type compressor is absolutely needed. Thanks.
You know, I don't know the answer. My gut would say it won't work. You need air pressure to make these work as they pull a vacuum while doing it. A small pancake compressor Does work though.
@@HouseMadeUS Thank you for answering. 😉
Very interesting. Long time Tormek guy here.
You mention links to your machine and supplies, but I have trouble finding them.
Really like your misting system -adapt to Tormek also I would think?Would like to learn more.
Thanks
Check my website www.HouseMade.us - I have kits and parts for sale. Thanks for your interest. 👍🏻
I bought one of those water systems, tried it & it was just a huge mess. I tried it without the water which kinda worked & wasn't as messy, but I still rarely use it. I guess I'm just a bucket dipping guy, hahaha... I noticed you kinda scrapped the idea of a top platen behind the wheel. It makes sharpening a lot better, instead of a convex/rounded edge you get a nice flat edge, like if you were using stones. You can also use the top of the wheel instead of behind it, take away the slack. Hope all is well, take it easy.
I haven’t scrapped the idea just yet. Still thinking about the best way to attach it to the Revolution. I’ll have to revisit it as I think of it often. The water in my case doesn’t seem to be any different of a mess than dunking. I’m a messy dunker. 😂
HEY BRIAN
Could you please make a video of how you wired up your VFD with the reverse and forward switch on the KB Electronics, 9520, KBAC-27D or did you buy it with it already on there?
Thanks Rob
Hi Robert, that switch is very easy to install. It's 3 wires that plug into the control board and the instructions come with the switch. Probably take you 5 minutes total. Hope that helps.
You are new belt grinder platen plate plans
My leather belt dances, I see yours does also.
It does the boogie-uggie. 😁
Hey partner, I’ve got to make a correction and offer an apology if needed , I honestly don’t know why I would have left a comment like I did on your sharpening technique. I really believe I was watching another video and mistakenly clicked on yours by mistake!! I’ll tell you why I say that, if anyone knows I’m against too much speed when sharpening blades it’s me!!! I used to use a 1x30 to sharpen blades until I found that my blades wouldn’t stay sharp !! Come to find out I was sharpening the hardnesses right out of my blades by going to fast !!! I really thought I was doing something spectacular!! After I got my 2x72 I couldn’t believe how I felt so good knowing I wasn’t ruining my blades!!! My friend as I said before, I believe I sent that comment by mistake and please believe there was no malice in it at all !!! If anyone knows speed kills it’s me , I love making knives and I’ve learned a lot from your tips and I thank you for them !!’
Hey no worries Kenneth! Keep making good stuff!
Are there ways of misting water without an air compressor?
Hey Brian, what is the smallest size compressor that one can use on this? Would it be possible to use a fish tank air pump a large one?
It uses such a small amount of air that any compressor will work. I am not sure about a fish tank pump though.
This is definitely better than a Tormek grinder.
Agreed! Glad I have mine but I barely use it anymore.
Is the water a coolant a lubricant or used to evacuate chips
The water is acting as a coolant and also binding with the dust to keep that down as well.
Get yourself a 2x72 leather belt and some green compound and holy moly that polished stropped edge.
Good info. Thank you
some kind a fixture or arm to keep the angles consistent ,,,, in my channel i have a rudimentary sharpening machine that I've made
I'll check it out. Thank you.
I don’t know how to weld do you sell this pre welded so all I need to do is bolt it together?
Yes we can do that. Cost is $750 plus shipping.
Can't find norax belts for euro systems, but can find 3m trizact , what do you think about it ?
Trizact are great belts!! 👍🏻
You just saved me about $50! (I woulda bought a knockoff)
Hey Brian, how do you keep your machine looking so nice when you're running water on it? I'm not done building my revolution v4 yet, but I really like the look of raw metal, so I bought some paste wax and plan to finish it with that. Any tips? Not sure if others wonder this as well, but it might be a useful video idea
I do very little other than just wiping it down. I plan on trying paste wax to see if that could be a good option.
I was going to ask the same thing, bare steel and water not good. Paint that thing.
Hey Brian. I bought your plans and am looking to get a mist system set up as well.
Are you going to have yours in stock anytime soon? And do you sell them without the belts? I’ve already got the belts but would love to buy the mister from you already set up
Hey there, yes! I should have that in stock in a few weeks-if you go to the page for the sharpening system you can choose to receive an email as soon as it’s available: housemade.us/collections/accessories/products/2x72-sharpening-system
Also, yes! I will be offering an option without the belts included, since I do get that request a lot 👍🏻
Because of where you’re doing this there’s an obvious mounting opportunity so you could use the tour Mac attachments to achieve the correct angles I know you say you can get a sharper and you may feel that’s true but it certainly won’t be as consistent and accurate and anyone who is doing this for A living or even a side hustle it’s going to need consistency especially if there’s more than one person in the equation the same result no matter who does it is essential
Lots of knife sharpeners (that do this for A living) use this system. Consistent and solid once you get the hang of it. Thanks for watching.
Well hell.... guess I need a mister now...
I’ll send you a kit. Email me your address
I will watch, like, and comment on that video.
@@astormofwrenches5555 Thank you as always sir!
A real nice sharpening system! I personally prefere waterstones, but for a more mass production like work, this is the way to go!
Also, are there any plans on creating a Revolution Stand for the grinder? I am on the hunt for a DIY solution for a metal/wood stand. Maybe you know somewhere where I could look for one?
No immediate plans for a stand, but I have been thinking about building one for my demo unit. If I come up with something easy Ill make sure to make a video.
@@HouseMadeUS Thanks for the answer!
I am now building a dedicated workbench, but still a stand would be cooler. Maybe you can check out "claryx metalwork", they offer a stand for their grinders. Seems to be simple to build!
Will do! Ameribrade makes a really nice one also.
@@HouseMadeUS Ah yes, I saw that one too. I am located in Europe, so I wanted to check the more local offers!
Also it is quite interesting, that beltgrinders are much more expensive in the US than in Europe. At least when looking at budget options.
Cost of steel has quadrupled here. Lots of reasons as to why. Mostly political. 😤
That mister also rated for coolant? Im interested in it for my surface grinder, mini mill, and my lathe, but waters a nono for those.
Yes it’s made for coolant also.
Is the water needed? Can I just wet the blade or the belt prior to sharpening?
If you're careful you can do this without the misting system.
@HouseMadeUS I did and it was fine.
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This system comes assembled or you have to assemble it?
No assembly required
Why not use the platen?
Since the blade is going reverse, shouldn't water go under it?
That would work too. The entire belt is soaked so it cools very well.
@@HouseMadeUS Niice , I noticed you ship for free in Europe but you are from US, do you have an EU base ?
Yes we have a German warehouse
@@HouseMadeUS So Maybe in the future I will buy some of your stuff.
The leather belt is the way to go. The buffing wheel seems to not strop it nearly as well for me
Also great video as always! Glad to see your business booming!
Yeah it’s hit or miss for me too. Sometimes I do both. The leather is definitely a better option. Someone mentioned MDF wheels? I’ve not tried that yet.
@@HouseMadeUS I have the paper wheels and they will get it sharp but it takes a nano second to ruin your temper they are so fast and get so hot! Plus it's harder for me to control the blade and angle. The grinder method is by far the best to date for me. I can get hair whittling sharp in about 3 min on a new blade
@@HouseMadeUS for the safety of your edges, the leather and diamond compound would be the best, unless you use an MDF/paper when on the Tormec.
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Going into the leather strop 😧.. that looks dangerous. Also not worried about water getting into your hub bearings or other parts in the sander that rust?
The belt is running in reverse. Not going into the blade. Very safe. I wipe my machine down, zero corrosion issues. Just maintenance. Cheers.
How do I get the mister?
Hi Tom, there’s a link in the description that goes straight to the product place for the mister. Thanks for watching!
@@HouseMadeUS Thank you. So I also need to order the hose and pneumatic female fitting, correct? Thanks for getting back to me.
@@HouseMadeUS Yes I saw that, I should have been clear with my question. I did order that already but it didn’t come with a way to hook it to the quick connect on my compressor. So I look at your link again and saw another link for a male air fitting and another link for a quick connect. It goes to the male q/connect. Then I saw the female. So I’m asking, I guess I need the female q/connect too? By the way I have been a sub from before you finished your belt grinder. I was one of the people that sent you picks of my B/G to get ideas. Yours came to be way better than mine, congratulations.
Instead of the mist can you just hang a ice cream pail with water above the grinder? And let it drip
Yeah
►►► Buy the HouseMade Industrial 2x72 Belt Grinder Sharpening System ►► housemade.us/products/2x72-sharpening-system
OR
Assemble your own kit:
► Spray Mister ► amzn.to/2ND1Iu8
► 8mm Hose ► amzn.to/391Io11
► 1/4 Quick Connect ► amzn.to/3tJmPKL
► 600 Grit Norax Belt ► bit.ly/3r6akqE
► 1200 Grit Norax Belt ► bit.ly/3vMGmeO
► Link to Plans for the DIY Tilting 2x72 Belt Grinder ►► bit.ly/2Pa7JvZ
►► Buy the Build Kit for your very own Revolution 2x72 Belt Grinder ►► bit.ly/2WIPgt4
Any chance you’d offer the mister separately? I already have the belts.
Yes sir. Working on that setup for ya. Good idea.
if it shaves its sharp! lets see it remove some hair, LOL
Gotta watch until the end. It shaves!
To slow man !!!
Slow is fast on my shop. 👊🏻
You talk too much. It’s boring
Make sure to check out the Work For It Podcast as well! Thank you! 💪🏻😁
@@HouseMadeUS Everything is fine with work. Just want to see more work. The video is very stretched. Better when everything is short, simple and clear.