Bench Grinder Tool Rest Replacement : Part 3/4
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- This episode on Blondihacks.com, we're building a new tool rest for an inexpensive bench grinder! Exclusive videos, drawings, models & plans available on Patreon!
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It's not about if you make mistakes as everybody makes mistakes, but about how you fix them. Nice job fixing! As others have mentioned, you stretched our vocabularies a bit further with "poop knuckles" and "swing press". For the first, my grandkids will be indebted to you and for the second, I shall be eternally grateful! Oh, and I could care less whether you pronounce it platen or platen, as long as you and I know what we're talking about, the rest of the world can squish poop knuckles in their swing presses! lol! All the best!
Some times you experience those days when you make lots of mistakes. As long as you don‘t have to start all over it just gives you learning experiences. 😊
Ok, I paused the video (12:20) to make this comment. I was absolutely just crying laughing at "well, uhm...more speed holes". I needed that laugh!
One of the best machinists I know was a neighbor who's day job was orthopedic (orthopaedic since it was in the UK ;) ) surgeon who did pioneering work on hip replacement surgery. Some of the early hips, and all of his unique surgical tools were made in his garage.
That's amazing!
My solution for tiny taps (even 0-80s) is a .750 long piece of half inch knurled brass with a.125 hole and a crissdrilled little set screw to lock into the square on the end of the tap. The knurl gets you plenty of grip for those little taps, and you have a lot more control to avoid over-torque.
Nice project. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride
I really like that you show the mistakes that you make and how you fix them, it shows us that we’re not the only people that screws up
Anyone who doesn’t show mistakes is lying. 😬
@@Blondihacks In music we call them "recording artists". It sure sets an evil unreachable goal for live music.
Surgical tools as shop tools - thumbs up, and vice versa! I'm in Ottawa Canada, the home of Veritas / Lee Valley Tools. The late Leonard Lee ended up starting an adjunct surgical tool business when he learned that surgeons were using his knives because they were easier on the hand during long procedures. Great videos, by the way.
I have been a mill wright for 45 years, most of what i have learned is because I screwed it up the first time. Joe Pie sent me your way, I
am glad he did, Thanks for sharing.
8:07 Never heard the phrase "called/calling an audible" before. Thanks, Urban Dictionary.
One of the few sports metaphors I know.
well done - thanks for showing the little adjustments.
I'm one of the jigs & fixtures guys at the machine shop I work at and can tell you that "speed holes" are a critical element in this type of work.
Hehe, good to know. 🚗😬
A friend gave me his Harbor Freight portable bandsaw. I loved it. I used it until I set it on fire. You know 'quality import' type of fire. So I paid for a good one and never looked back.
I really appreciate you and the effort you put into your high quality content. I enjoy some of the oddball projects (cat toothbrush holder) that you tackle as well as the common sense approach to machining for us beginners. You have a gift for teaching. Thanks again.
Call the platen whatever you wish. I think we all get the point. Some folks that comment seem to overlook the forest for the one tree. Well done.
My friend is s dentist, I get latex gloves for pets, dental picks and things from him. Nice to have a friend like that.
Oh yes, dental tools are great!
19:08 I have noticed in a previous video you refering to surgical covers or dressings to protect the lathe ways from the abrasives from the emery paper, and saw you using surgical instruments too, without much note to it. And yes, absolutely, medical instruments, like pliers, hemostats, needle holders and many others make some great, and quite frankly irreplaceable tools for the shop. And home. When I was in medschool, I remember using some large Rochesters (a beefy toothed forcep) as curtain holders. In my living room. People always get surprised when visiting my shop by the amount of surgical instruments around.
Thanks a lot for your videos, your content awesome, and absurdly beginner friendly. I was having a hard time starting on machining, and your lathe skills series was a game changer! Best wishes, and stay safe!
Surgeons have all the best tools. 😁
Thanks Quinn, great video again!
Thanks for another great video Quinn. Overcoming obstacles like a Boss!
Keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Great Job, Quinn! Always enjoy your videos!
Not mistakes... just more learning :)
Cheers
I am definitely in favor of giving surgeons the best possible tools 👍
Good stuff - these are not problems, just learning opportunities :) I need to do something about the rickety tool rests on my bench grinders too.
Love your channel and content...and we have the same vise :-) With the porta band, if you let the material push against the "table" of the porta band, your cuts will get a lot straighter.
Hope things are good in the new space. Looking forward to new vids from the new shop.
18:47 - indeed. Forceps are great!
18:51 - lol, nice way to find out! But uhh... there's a surgical aisle?!? I gotta find that!
Another great video... perhaps especially because of the mistakes. Nice to have that be normalized... I know I've made a few!
Thanks for sharing. I Need to make two.
I so appreciate you and love your vids
if a person does not make mistakes they don't learn anything . You did AWESOME!! .. ENJOYED..
I really like your delivery style
Thank you very much!
Another great installment on this Quinn. Your tribulations with various portions of the process reminds me of some of my recent projects. While I am (was) a journeyman machinist, it's been about 7 years since I used those skills. I've just gotten two of my machine tools functional (7" shaper and BP clone) and finding out just how rusty I am.
Oh, I love small shapers. Would love to see it in action.
@@Blondihacks you'll get the chance, I've been shooting footage of projects. Now I just need to learn some editing skills. I also have a ~1903 16" Steptoe shaper in progress of rebuilding. The 7" is a little ~1941 AMMCO.
Very good Quinn always good to have the ingenuity to recover from your minor crimes and other transgressions and end up with a workable part in the end. I usually end up with a Version 2.0 unincorporating the version 1 errors and Bozo's.
Hi Quinn,
Great series so far. I like your approach you use to produce your videos.
Wish I had the same skill. I think I'm always in to much of a hurry!!!!!!
Regards
MachineNZ
Lookin good
"speed holes" I'm using that next time . Ps another great video
Not to be crude, but the first time I watched I happened to be looking away at that part of the video and I sincerely thought she said, "Let's just call it its pee hole".
@@threepete999 😂🤪
At 12:40 pressing the pins in, it's my belief that 603 or 609 loctite gives good results to clearances of up to .005/.006 between parts and ideally for Loctite to work properly a clearance of .001/.002 thou is required and a press fit is defeating the object by squeezing the loctite out as the press fit is applied, a slide fit of the parts would have eliminated that nasty the loctite when set would have expanded and given you a perfect result,
Loctite 603 is specifically intended for press fits. Works well for very close slips fits as well, in my experience.
Quinn..we called them Hemostats..the forcips.Grea Vid..gonna duplicate.: )
The correct technical term for the fit of the replacement pins in your support piece is "she'll be right" :)
Hi, found your CZcams’s couple weeks ago you do a great job really like listening to you and watching them. I went to a metal supply yard and they let me look around and by their saw there
Were a lot of cut offs I call scrap when I asked the yard man can I buy these and how much is this scrap he quickly corrected me and said you mean those remnants. I never forgot that and now I never call small pieces scrap. I don’t think your pressing your pin ln was not paying attention I think it’s your vice with teeth type jaws there’s not enough flat surface for small pins to keep them square to the jaws. Surfacing those jaws smooth like a machinist vise would help. Waiting for you next video. Thanks
this has been such fun to watch... ? is facing the platen the same 'Decking' and engine Block...
The steel mounting and hinge parts I would have had used 3/16” plate steel to help prevent flexing. Also the platen would last longer made from steel, aluminum and abrasives aren’t a good match. You did it your way, I’m just stating how I would have chosen to do it!
Honestly, the 1/8" is plenty rigid. It has no detectable flex in it.
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Yay a blondihacks! Kinda like waking up to saturday morning cartoons (bugs bunny) and a big bowl of cereal... Actually you did OK on the pins because loctite actually specifies some clearance for that application. Don' be too hard on yourself.
Well, 603 is technically for a press-fit, but a tight slip fit is also fine, in my experience.
Poop knuckles.. 🤣🤣🤣. Maybe you could just call the platen George to save any confusion
🤔 there's gotta be a flat earth joke in there somewhere 😁
Love the videos Quinn, do you by chance have a link for some of the tooling you use like that shell mill? I looked through your list in the description and didn't see it.
hydro-pneumatic action......smart ass!!!!
As always, another great videoAs for correct pronunciation of words, like Plattsburgh or platen, aluminum or aluminium. There’s no wrong way or right way to say words, specially when everyone knows what you’re talking about. There’s just always an A-hole who understands you enough to stupidly correct people, but doesn’t know he/she is an A-hole. It’s youtube, not a Nobel Prize speech. Ask anyone how to properly say Nobel and watch how many A-holes come out of the wood works. Your DIY platen, platen, plaiten, plaeten, plait, plate, tomato, tomahto idea is the whole point, and it is what matter as a great idea.
This one seems to be fighting you all the way , but I know you will persevere.
It was a fighter, for sure. All operator error, of course, but that's how it goes. 😁
I learned more from your mistakes today! Thank you Ma'am! And I'm adding 'poop knuckles' to my vocabulary as of right now! Haha
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If it wasn't for "mistakes" we wouldn't learn!
Hi Quinn, What shell mill and Arbor are you using and where did you buy them? Thanks
Great work! Do you have a recommendation on where to get a shell mill like you have?
I'm a fan of MSC Direct. Their house Interstate brand is a great "middle of the road" option in tooling, and they have high end stuff as well when you need/want it. Also very fast shipping.
Sorry, I stopped the video at 12:40 in my previous message I should have watched the whole video before I made my comment, you made it a slide fit, that's so much better, my apology
Is there any value in squaring up two sides of stock as it came out of the box before cutting out your pieces?
Good question! Sometimes there is, but most of the time it's easier to rough-cut it first, then machine all the sides. One counter-example is if the part will be difficult to hold. In that case you may want to leave it "attached" to the stock it came from so you have something to grab onto.
@@Blondihacks Fair enough; I stand to learn from just about any video on machining and I'm glad for the time you and a lot of other folks put into it.
May be a silly question but would not a washer have worked on those two pins?
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Watching in Alabama
Quinn, you can link items on Amazon that you use. This will net you some profit as well so not all of your profits come from Pateron and CZcams. Not exactly how to do it but I'm sure you can find it.
Apparently you haven’t looked at my video descriptions 😬
Is a "swing press" when you swing a hammer?
It’s a bad old joke- you shouldn’t use a hammer when a press is the right tool, hence “swing press”
Just ran across your channel with this project.
I share your pedantry with English, although probably from the opposite side of the spectrum with ironically opposing standards. I grew up with "platten" (phonetic spelling) from typing class in 1962. There was a most hilarious "The Big Bang Theory" episode which explored the choices between "levver" and "leever". The sarcastic punchline was, "whateever!" I'd also be careful of sites which proclaim "either is correct". A thorough etymologic review will often find that only one is truly correct, but that common usage has corrupted an alternative until they are both referenced, although the measure is "common" and not "accurate". E.g.: www.lexico.com/en/definition/platen How do you think the French pronounce "platine"?
Your "forceps" (not phonetic, just mocking) are actually, in turn, either clamps, Kelly clamps, or hemostats. "Nurse, clamp off that vein" would net the use of Kellys. I have several (of purloined provenance) scattered around my various work stations, as bride was an anesthetist and a scrub nurse.
Now, I am not a machinist, but I have a varied and rich collection of mechanical experience and terminologies. I had to laugh when I heard you say "RC2" fit, thinking it must be a G-rated incarnation of "RCH" fit, which I've heard (and shared) with other guys all my life. The very popular and highly recommended CZcamsr, AvE, commonly refers to a dimension as being "a blond(e) one" which is clearly a variation on the theme.
And I am proud to say that when I heard you say "RC2" and along with the aforementioned thinking, my first thought was, "I can't believe she'd say such a clearly male pig thing," which sent me to google. Turns out, she probably wouldn't and Coban Engineering set me right:
www.cobanengineering.com/Tolerances/ANSIRunningSlidingFits.asp
I'll be investigating more of you videos. Others from whom I learn are Keith Rucker and Adam Booth, and several others, the aforementioned AvE is doing some serious CNC experimentation worth looking at.
And, to ice the cake or gild the lily, I learned something about Loctite. I thought there was red and blue. The blue to keep things from moving and red if you never needed to take it apart. I have long said, "any day I don't learn something is incomplete." Thanks for filling out my day.
Welcome to my channel! Indeed AvE is someone I follow as well. He's quite entertaining and multi-talented.
Don't forget the "Pink" loctite number 222e, for low strength holding, recommend for low strength alloys, and fasteners. 242 Blue can rip out threads on low strength alloys.
I enjoyed reading your comments.
Gday, would you mind sharing the brand and part # of that shell mill please?
It’s a Keo 2”’ 10 flute, bought from MSC Direct.
how do you not have more subscribers?
I wish I knew. 😅 The whims of the CZcams algorithm.
So.... when's the arbor press build?
Funny you should ask- I actually just bought one. Finally had no choice as part of the D-bit grinder restoration.
I enjoyed the series. Seems like a waste to mount it to a sheetmetal guard........
Spoiler alert! This very problem will be discussed next video. 😉
"I heated them up and applied the swing press." Was that a 32 oz ball pein swing press? 😂
Close! 30oz framing swing press. 😜
I feel insignificant due to the fact that this video series is 36+ months old...
Chances of me receiving responses is moot at this point.
Great channel!
Poop knuckles?
Ok. Why not.
And EVERYBODY knows platen is pronounced "platen". Pronouncing platen "platen" is just silly. 😜
Good recovery from your mistakes.
Thanks for the video.
Meow.
After recording the voice-over, I actually went and looked it up, and both are correct. :D
Blondihacks I saw that. I had never heard the other pronunciation.
So it's both "platen" and "platen". Wait, what?
Your mistakes are nothing compared to some of the mistakes the "professional engineers" at the lab I worked at made. Some of the ones I remember are a 3" diameter hole drilled through a 2" diameter part and an assembly stack that was 12" longer than the opening it had to fit in.
Too many Labatt’s. Ask me how I know.
There’s a part of me that says you’re pronouncing platen weird and another part of me that doesn’t give a crap.