It's easier to get parts for a W126 chassis versus a later model because there's a demand for those parts. The word is out that the W123, W126 and W201 are amazingly strong cars. They were built at a time when everything on those cars were designed to be rebuilt/fixed, not thrown away. These other CZcamsrs can't fathom this concept because they don't know Mercedes Benzs like Pierre. Knowledge versus video clicks.
Habibilli I have that exact car! 5 speed, manual locks, windows, and sunroof I love driving it It also frequents Pierre’s shop in Titusville since I live there
The classic cars are what Mercedes made their reputation on. New Benz are pretty much junk that will not last a dozen years. When there are no more 20 year old Benz on the road, but the 40 year old stuff is still driven, maybe then we will see that at one time it really was The Best or Nothing.
I fully agree to what has been said, from experience. I own a 2000, S430, purchased at 99K miles. I recently purchased a 1989 300SE with 164K miles for $2K. The S430 is rusting badly in spite of very good care. It has "consumed" $10K in repairs in the two years of ownership. The air suspension alone cost $7K to replace. What is interesting is that OEM replacement parts for the air ride would have cost me more than twice as much; PLUS, Mercedes would only warranty the parts for ONE YEAR. My mechanic bought rebuilt parts that have a lifetime warranty that is transferable. The SE by comparison has no body rust and only faded clear coat on the roof, hood and trunk deck. Everything works, including the original AM/FM radio. The differences in build quality, fit, finish, and materials used is striking when viewing both cars side by side. Pierre is correct, Mercedes Benz lost their quality edge and reputation soon after the 1990's. They will never recover.
Thanks.I used to have a second hand 1985 190 e.wonderful car all the time.1st owner had head and odometer replaced under warranty.I had no problems.wonderful car
Finally! Someone who knows what the hell they're talking about when it comes to Mercedes-Benz. W123, W124 and W126 chassis cars are still -- even to this day -- the best cars on the road (and the Lexus LS cars, too) and the most reliable, durable and dependable vehicles EVER MADE. We're talking about cars made of STEEL. NOT PLASTIC. We're also talking about cars with standard safety features that don't appear on other manufacturers' cars for almost a decade later: ABS. SRS airbags. Traction control. And the list goes on. Diesel engines last millions of miles...LITERALLY. But the gas engines like the M104 and M119 last 400,000+ miles just as easily. Parts and labor are a fraction of the cost of the newer cars, however, the REAL VALUE is in the number of parts available in JUNKYARDS FOR pennies on the dollar. A vacuum pump for a W123 turbo diesel in effectively like new condition for $80? Yes!!! That's right! Listening to Scotty -- a self described, so-called "expert" -- bashing Lexus LS430 engines and Mercedes-Benz M119 and M113 engines just makes me wonder why anyone listens to the guy AT ALL???
I agree on every accounts! I own and maintain our own W210 estate and W202. I know they are not a W124 or a W201...but to me, those generations are hitting the sweet spot where modern meeting the solid classic generations of Benz. Thank you for the video. “Liked” and “Subscribed”!!!
Enjoyed my little W201. Easy to fix and maintain, and was only due to a major change in my living arrangements that I had to say goodbye and buy something new...but I still have a classic V12 car from a British manufacturer tucked away for sunny weekend drives. The little W201 was something special and built like nothing else.
Just discovered your channel this weekend; great work! Frankly I'm an English car guy, but I totally agree about classic cars. I've got a Triumph TR-6 (the third one I've owned over the decades) and a Jaguar XJ6. I take great enjoyment working on them, driving them, or even just sitting in them in the garage with a drink. I paid pennies for them compared to a modern car, and in spite of the money I've put into parts (I don't have to pay labor, because they are simple enough that the average guy and do the work), I'm still light years ahead of the money I would have spend on a 40K a new car (and not have gotten a car as nearly as cool as what I have now).
Hi there, Great informational video! answered alot of questions, been looking for an older car for some time now, what do you think of the 500sec when it comes to maintenance . Only thing i kno is that it drinks alot.
We love our W126 300SE Parts are becoming less of an issue for me mainly because I’m learning where to find things (Australian based) As always a great video You’re an inspiration Pierre Cheers Michael
Great rant, Pierre! While I'm waiting for circumstances to change something I can get a nice 240D, I'm happy to keep driving my '05 C240 4Matic, but I'll also say that strut mounts are $360 a side in Canadian pesos for the parts. I loved the bit about paying more than the car is worth... My wife is after me about that and I told her it's still the cheapest car we've got! Keep up the great work!
I just purchased an absolutely stunning late 1993 Mercedes-Benz E220 Coupé. Grew up around Mercedes with my father owning multiple w114s. Excited would be an understatement!
I have a 115 chassis diesel which I drive daily too and from work and it’s the most reliable car you can imagine and you never have to worry about speeding tickets because 65-70 is it’s top speed. I’m hoping to get into a 123 diesel wagon but they’re way overpriced now so I’ll stick with my 220d for now. Although I live in the NE so rust maintenance is a pain
Great video, I know people who drive their old Diesel Mercedes for a million kilometers. I agree that most newer Benz's, can get messy, and I can also agree that you can drive most 70's and 80's Models for almost forever. Great video!!! I personally drive a new Benz, yet I am looking always out for the old W123 and 124 models. I had both models, BOTH were stolen....less safety, true, but why would someone steal old cars if they arent reliable.....? That alone answers the questions one may have....
I drive a pristine '98 w202. It's easy to get parts for, and I can do some of the work myself. It's actually fun to drive, people are amazed with the power and solid ride, and I personally consider it better than the Subaru or Camry that we own save for their accident avoidance systems. The M-B aways starts!.
W126 with anti squat suspension or W126 without..... Any preference? Also not all W126 have traction control (ASD or and ASR), is it a must to have this option if I live in New England area? I am definitely gonna out a set of winter tires on it for winter driving.
Great video Pierre, thank you. I wish I had the storage room to keep all the old Mercs that I’ve bought and sold over the years, 300E W124 sedan in Blue Black, 1994 E220 Coupe in White which had done only 21000 kms, 2001 CLK430 Cabriolet in Tansanite Blue, 2009 CLK350 Coupe in Obsidian Black, fortunately I’ve kept my 2003 SL55 in Iridium Silver which has only done 60000 kms and I’ve just bought a 1990 W126 420SE in Almandine Red in mint condition done 102000 kms and is a credit to the previous owners. I will be keeping these 2 cars and I’m looking for a house with a bigger garage! Please keep the videos coming….all things Mercedes Benz, the best or nothing!
Thanks for the perspective! I've bees trying ti explain this to people but it doesnt sink in. Theres a reason why poor people drive old Mercedes cars.(in South Africa at least)
Hi Pierre! Bill Hopper introduced me to you and your sister at the milestone 2015 Amelia Island events. My 1995 E320 Coupe is my dream car / daily driver and my next oil change will be at 326K miles. Thank you for your channel!
Thank you for the 99 C230 shout out. It’s true. I LOVE my 230. 2nd one i’ve owned. One Coupe and now sedan. But yes unless you order online such as FCP Euro and such.. Advance Auto Parts is the only place i know for german OEM equivalent parts. Keep up the great work, love the channel. Also i need a good manual. I would love the star manual on computer but any ideas???
Got my old men’s 1980’s w123 been in the family since new, stripped the whole car, welded, new cables, fully engine reconditioned, breaks/discs, suspension sprayed, did the whole interior and many more.. total so far i spend on my car roughly abt £12k... now is this car worth £12k now? Probably not, but I wouldn’t sell it even if someone offered me £100k or more. Will use it for next 20 yrs and then going to my 4yr old son when he grows up and knows the value n importance of this car.. absolutely in love with it.. 👌
How you going mate I have a 1983 380 sec and I cannot explain the feeling matey of when I look at her or sit in or drive her umm Cobba will u b able to help me maintain this just wonderfull piece of engineering on how to ensure I am looking after her properly new is new but for myself older is the better and your love is stronger and lasting
Really comes down to 3 things, $$, maintenance, and what you want. As you well note in your videos, some are more $$ and trouble than they are worth. Some don't appeal to your driving style. And then some have modern inconveniences which most of us don't like. I have a nice 2002 E320 Classic Sedan with leather interior which meets our needs for a comfortable ride/drive. We have a Chevy beater for shopping and parking lots. Our Merc is perfect for any road trip on highway or interstate. At 90K miles it still rides, drives, and performs like any new car. And the parts cost for occasional maintenance is very reasonable. Plus we don't lose a penny on depreciation! The Merc feels like I am riding in style from the moment we pull out of the driveway. Oh, did I mention that it performs perfectly when you need to pass on a 2 lane road? Always fun to drive. Fahrvergnugen!
I'm 76yo and have owned numerous Mercedes the one I currently have is a 1990 420SEL with 67k, it is by far the most dependable and maintenance cost has been super low. I think it's one of the most elegant cars on the road and drives like a dream, still has the MBZ iconic smell
big facts. got a car payment when I was 21 had it for 4yrs and was reposessed. after the smoke cleared I checked my documents they charged me 22k flat upfront for a 12k USED car that was 5 years old. Sure had under 75k but insurances are liars. dont buy nothing you cant buy in full. because youll pay more for not owning it then you would for parts to fix it. Thats real talk. I hate the roll that I got but I fell inlove with it, and felt a personal endeavor I had to accomplish by achieving its functionality. Ive invested so much money this past year on working on this car and I would love if there was any infornation you could offer reguarding the m111 engines with even maybe matinence or anything at all even little tips anything is appreciated. Thanks for the video I was happy to see my car wasnt on the list. If youve got oppinions on the m111 please share! appreciate all the videos and knowlesge you offer the mercedes owners community.
My W124 was great, as was my 3 W210’s. I now on my second W220 S500 4 matic. Even though you think it’s newer, it’s the best and better than the W140. Like a sports car compared to that tank.
I think I should not have bought a 2001 CL600. Beautiful sitting still. Otherwise a world of trouble overheating. Blew top hose once.We found right-size-wrong-part fan was cooked and replaced it. Three hundred miles later the temp went nuts in traffic and the radiator exploded. Wish I knew what to fix!
Hi Pierre! I need some help? I have a 1990 230ce w124, the car misfires and on acceleration will hesitate to accelerate. At first I thought it was spark but after replacing the plugs, leads, cap and coil it’s still the same, I also swapped the fuel distributor and metering head. Any ideas? Thanks!
FCP Euro sells W210 throttle position sensor for $150. Maybe $750 at dealer but you don't go to dealer for 18 year old car. Facelift W210 is one of the best out there. Relatively easy to work on and parts are plentiful and inexpensive. I've had my '01 E430 for 11 years and it's been a joy to own. Still drives great at 221,000 miles.
" ok ok so he didn't tell you which car to buy ?" ( so i will tell you ! ) older mercedes go up in value and are " collectable 1/ e55 mercedes sedans especially wagons more rarer 2/ 1969 mercedes 300 sel 6.3 was fastest 4 door sedan in world when made 3/ also mercedes 6.9 litre collectable sedan 4/ 190 sl mercedes convertable 5/ 190 " gullwing expensive convertable " crazy prices " mega rich only can afford !" 6/ mercedes " slr" coupe ( powerful edition) conclusion : to name " just a few !"
I think most people want a lot of the little electrical doodads we find with modern cars. And cup holders, lol! Cup holders are huge. Kid you not, i know people who passed on 123's and 126's because they simply could not get beyond the fact that there were no cup holders. For me, I LOVE my 126 grey market 500SEC. Especially after The Man himself went through it a couple of months ago. What a joy it is to drive.
We are German engineers, we know what you need. No cup holders! :) I love both my 123 & 126 but I could use a couple of cup holders especially for my morning commute coffee.
the cupholders were really a shit test to keep homer simpson out of a Mercedes. Cup holders...lol...who needs a cup when they are driving the best car in the world?
My used 01 Chrysler Neon came stock with 5 cup holders. My used 99 W210 E320 4Matic came with plastic assembly with 2 cup holders that was broken. New part OEM part on eBay was around USD$ 100. I decided I can live without it, since I paid whole car CAD$ 2000.
Hi, Pierre. Love your vids. I've been researching MBs for about 12 years in anticipation of buying one. I definitely want a small-bumper R107. I've studied newer ones, too. My question for you is why does MB have such a long history of problems whit timing chains? Given their engineering prowess, why didn't they just design a system that works in all models. No matter the source, - your vids, other peoples' channels, articles both in print and online - "check the timing chain" always comes up. Why have they had this problem off and on for so long?
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Mr. Hedary, I have a friend that has (7) seven SL's of different models, years and condition. He has Parkinson and has progressed to a point he can't work on the cars anymore. He mentioned he was going to sell them to a dismantler. I saw one of your video's about selling Mercedes cars to those kind of businesses. I'd like to help him out but can only buy one of them not running. I currently have a 87 560 SL now I'll have two 560 SL's. Do you or anyone out there have any suggestions of how I can help him out.
Pierre, your buddy Kent has done similar vids about buying a classic Mercedes with the stipulation that this wouldn't be a good buy for someone unwilling or unable to do most or at least some of the maintenance and repairs themselves due to the high expense of paying someone to do the work. Thoughts?
Hi Jon...I guess my explanation is that you can pay for a 5 year old korean, american or japanese vehicle, month after month, or you can pay someone to restore a 123/115/116/126/124 diesel for you. Even with someone else doing the labor, it is still less expensive than buying a modern car. Also, some people who have disposable income also enjoy these cars. Kent is shooting for a certain demographic....If you notice, i try to cover both ends of the mercedes spectrum...I know a lot of people who have 123s who can afford to have someone else do all the heavy lifting...and they love the cars nonetheless...
I just bought a 1995 A124 for $9500 and spent almost $4000 to get it to run perfectly and I’m ok with that. The car looks great and it’s unique and fun to drive. The smiles per miles outweigh the negatives.
Pierre has such common sense about costs and depreciation of new/nearly new vs old but the comment that most resonates with me is about new cars is 'they all look the same to me' and thats why I only drive W116 and W123's. Here is an example of economy- W123 280ce purchased 2009 for £1500 and spent £4000 over 13 years and now the car is worth £8000 and most importantly, its been my daily car and never ever let me down and people comment on it all the time (even a Astonmartin DB9 owner told me how pretty he thought it was!). I rest my case. wonderful
Good Morning Mr.Pierre, thanks for this helpful videos , i would like to get advises from an Expert, i live in Japan and came across a W123 , petrol engine with 174406 Km on the clock, it was parked for many years but the condition is pretty good at glance , please guide me to know what should and should not be done , Thanking in advance
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Well, for the price I've paid on my '90 w124 I could buy a 2k Ford Fiesta or something like that here in Brazil. I've made this choice due to my passion for engines and cars (grease) and thanks to a some guys like you that share your knowledge on the web. I'm not able to buy a new Mercedes but I'm pleased to have mine. I like too much the w201 too!
Nice to see another Mercedes aficionado in Brazil. I am Brazilian and I currently live in Portugal. I have a W201 190D. I have some videos of the car in my channel.
@@LGaragem Valeu, irmão, aqui não é a coisa mais fácil pra se dedicar mas o que vale é o prazer de ter e dirigir uma "velharia" destas! rsrs Quase comprei um w201 2.0 mas desisti por receio com a documentação; me arrependi depois, vi o carro regularizado e ajeitado num encontro no RJ. Ainda tenho vontade de possuir um mas está bem valorizado por aqui... Abraço!
Im into classics (I owned old Toyota Mark2, Ford Capri, Nissan Sunny and Toyota ke35 previously but they were not kind of a daily runners) ... But I also want them as a daily runner... I bought a w123 1982 240D Mercedes in 1900$ recently... Did I make a right choice?
absolutely. Now you have a suspension to rebuild and an ac system to overhaul, and a bunch of other small repairs, but the reliability and simplicity is just wonderful. Please email me if you have any questions at mbownersforlife@bellsouth.net
Mercedes Classic with Pierre Hedary and my W116 350SE 248000km, now needing some TLC, but turn the key and he runs.
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The older Mercedes, though well built, don't have a fraction of the performance of the E55 W211. The handling, braking, comfort and safety are also exceptional in the W211, (thanks in part to advanced electronics). This is the last of a more modern breed, which is now being lost in Germany, thanks to radical EU policies, and extreme Euro enviromental restrictions.
Hola necesito cambiar la caja de velocidades automática de mi mercedes w124 1990 y no se como desmontarla tienes algún tutorial para poder realizarlo gracias de chile
you need engine manuals. I would get the 1968 service manual that covers the m108.109,111 and 113. it covers the engines in the 114 as well...You will need a 617.95 engine manual for your 300cd as well as the 1985 introduction to service
Hi. I am new to Mercedes Benz cars, but want to buy a used one that’s 3 to 4 years old. I’m trying to find a video that will tell me what is the best Mercedes to buy. Is it better to buy an SUV? A sedan? A hybrid? I just don’t know enough about Mercedes and can’t seem to find information that will help me. You seem to know a lot about Mercedes maybe you could do a video on a good Mercedes to buy that’s a few years old.But these videos that I’m finding are so detailed about old cars it’s really confusing.
I agree the older cars should stay on the road and if you have the means you should. But as a daily driver the W211 I’ve been driving has been amazing opposed to my 95 300e
Buy all the old-school Mercedes! And save them all!
I really hate it when guys selling their classic Mercs and call it, “My daily beater.”
Thanks Pierre, learnt so much from your videos. Always wanted a 86 500SL and your videos just reinforced why I should buy one.
You and I think a like. I had to get rid of my ‘81 & ‘82 300D because my wife complains that I spend more time with my cars than with her.
Love my w124 300d, it's so nice to drive something comfortable, reliable, built well and that gives 30 mpg or more, love the channel, stellar work !
I love old mercedes Benz. I have ,a w126 280SE, I think of buying W114 or W126 300sel. Which is the best between the two?
It's easier to get parts for a W126 chassis versus a later model because there's a demand for those parts. The word is out that the W123, W126 and W201 are amazingly strong cars. They were built at a time when everything on those cars were designed to be rebuilt/fixed, not thrown away. These other CZcamsrs can't fathom this concept because they don't know Mercedes Benzs like Pierre. Knowledge versus video clicks.
Always had a soft spot for the W123 230E
Habibilli I have that exact car! 5 speed, manual locks, windows, and sunroof
I love driving it
It also frequents Pierre’s shop in Titusville since I live there
How about W 124 and W140? Have you heard of Lexus LS 430?
@@danpan001 No, what about the LS430 comparison?
Yep I have a 1985 w126 300SD and the parts are easy to find. Really it's like finding parts for a F150 ford.
This channel is gold. He makes a perfect sense.
The classic cars are what Mercedes made their reputation on. New Benz are pretty much junk that will not last a dozen years. When there are no more 20 year old Benz on the road, but the 40 year old stuff is still driven, maybe then we will see that at one time it really was The Best or Nothing.
I fully agree to what has been said, from experience. I own a 2000, S430, purchased at 99K miles. I recently purchased a 1989 300SE with 164K miles for $2K. The S430 is rusting badly in spite of very good care. It has "consumed" $10K in repairs in the two years of ownership. The air suspension alone cost $7K to replace. What is interesting is that OEM replacement parts for the air ride would have cost me more than twice as much; PLUS, Mercedes would only warranty the parts for ONE YEAR. My mechanic bought rebuilt parts that have a lifetime warranty that is transferable. The SE by comparison has no body rust and only faded clear coat on the roof, hood and trunk deck. Everything works, including the original AM/FM radio. The differences in build quality, fit, finish, and materials used is striking when viewing both cars side by side. Pierre is correct, Mercedes Benz lost their quality edge and reputation soon after the 1990's. They will never recover.
Thanks.I used to have a second hand 1985 190 e.wonderful car all the time.1st owner had head and odometer replaced under warranty.I had no problems.wonderful car
Just subscribed! Thanks for the heads up.
Your channel is great! Thanks for the plug for Scottie and Tyler.
Finally! Someone who knows what the hell they're talking about when it comes to Mercedes-Benz. W123, W124 and W126 chassis cars are still -- even to this day -- the best cars on the road (and the Lexus LS cars, too) and the most reliable, durable and dependable vehicles EVER MADE. We're talking about cars made of STEEL. NOT PLASTIC. We're also talking about cars with standard safety features that don't appear on other manufacturers' cars for almost a decade later: ABS. SRS airbags. Traction control. And the list goes on. Diesel engines last millions of miles...LITERALLY. But the gas engines like the M104 and M119 last 400,000+ miles just as easily. Parts and labor are a fraction of the cost of the newer cars, however, the REAL VALUE is in the number of parts available in JUNKYARDS FOR pennies on the dollar. A vacuum pump for a W123 turbo diesel in effectively like new condition for $80? Yes!!! That's right! Listening to Scotty -- a self described, so-called "expert" -- bashing Lexus LS430 engines and Mercedes-Benz M119 and M113 engines just makes me wonder why anyone listens to the guy AT ALL???
Bro you should start a CZcams channel
I agree on every accounts! I own and maintain our own W210 estate and W202. I know they are not a W124 or a W201...but to me, those generations are hitting the sweet spot where modern meeting the solid classic generations of Benz. Thank you for the video. “Liked” and “Subscribed”!!!
Enjoyed my little W201. Easy to fix and maintain, and was only due to a major change in my living arrangements that I had to say goodbye and buy something new...but I still have a classic V12 car from a British manufacturer tucked away for sunny weekend drives. The little W201 was something special and built like nothing else.
my first car was a 190D w201 with 520,000 km on it. It was eventually crashed, nobody got hurt and the engine was still working. i miss it :(
Just discovered your channel this weekend; great work! Frankly I'm an English car guy, but I totally agree about classic cars. I've got a Triumph TR-6 (the third one I've owned over the decades) and a Jaguar XJ6. I take great enjoyment working on them, driving them, or even just sitting in them in the garage with a drink. I paid pennies for them compared to a modern car, and in spite of the money I've put into parts (I don't have to pay labor, because they are simple enough that the average guy and do the work), I'm still light years ahead of the money I would have spend on a 40K a new car (and not have gotten a car as nearly as cool as what I have now).
Master piece. Awesome. Thanks
Hi there, Great informational video! answered alot of questions,
been looking for an older car for some time now, what do you think of the 500sec when it comes to maintenance .
Only thing i kno is that it drinks alot.
Great channel just bought a 1997 S420 love it
Respect. Awesome video, very well said.
I love this channel already and I’m a Mercedes Benz fan
Could not agree more. Thanks Pierre.
Hello from Sweden 🇸🇪🦉
Rest in Peace genuine Made in Germany 🇩🇪 🦉real Mercedes from 1930-1995👍👍👍😊
We love our W126 300SE
Parts are becoming less of an issue for me mainly because I’m learning where to find things (Australian based)
As always a great video
You’re an inspiration Pierre
Cheers
Michael
I Love mine as well.
Great rant, Pierre! While I'm waiting for circumstances to change something I can get a nice 240D, I'm happy to keep driving my '05 C240 4Matic, but I'll also say that strut mounts are $360 a side in Canadian pesos for the parts. I loved the bit about paying more than the car is worth... My wife is after me about that and I told her it's still the cheapest car we've got! Keep up the great work!
360/each is not bad compared to cars with air suspension. Regardless the c240 is a safe car, and should be reasonably reliable.
I like your videos a lot. Your reviews are very informative and accurate.
As a recent 190e owner- your channel is a revelation. Keep up the good work
same for me, just picked up a 190e 2.6 a few weeks ago and have been gaining a ton of knowledge from Pierre
I just purchased an absolutely stunning late 1993 Mercedes-Benz E220 Coupé. Grew up around Mercedes with my father owning multiple w114s. Excited would be an understatement!
My dream is to own a Mercedes! I will buy my first car, Mercedes. This channel is very inspiring. Thanks
I have a 115 chassis diesel which I drive daily too and from work and it’s the most reliable car you can imagine and you never have to worry about speeding tickets because 65-70 is it’s top speed. I’m hoping to get into a 123 diesel wagon but they’re way overpriced now so I’ll stick with my 220d for now. Although I live in the NE so rust maintenance is a pain
Great video, I know people who drive their old Diesel Mercedes for a million kilometers. I agree that most newer Benz's, can get messy, and I can also agree that you can drive most 70's and 80's Models for almost forever. Great video!!! I personally drive a new Benz, yet I am looking always out for the old W123 and 124 models. I had both models, BOTH were stolen....less safety, true, but why would someone steal old cars if they arent reliable.....? That alone answers the questions one may have....
You are awesomely sensible thank you
I drive a pristine '98 w202. It's easy to get parts for, and I can do some of the work myself. It's actually fun to drive, people are amazed with the power and solid ride, and I personally consider it better than the Subaru or Camry that we own save for their accident avoidance systems. The M-B aways starts!.
My '07 e350 is such a gem. Reliable, comfortable, beautifull.
W126 with anti squat suspension or W126 without.....
Any preference?
Also not all W126 have traction control (ASD or and ASR), is it a must to have this option if I live in New England area? I am definitely gonna out a set of winter tires on it for winter driving.
Great channel, keep it up👍😁
BR from Denmark😁🇩🇰
Philip
Great video Pierre, thank you. I wish I had the storage room to keep all the old Mercs that I’ve bought and sold over the years, 300E W124 sedan in Blue Black, 1994 E220 Coupe in White which had done only 21000 kms, 2001 CLK430 Cabriolet in Tansanite Blue, 2009 CLK350 Coupe in Obsidian Black, fortunately I’ve kept my 2003 SL55 in Iridium Silver which has only done 60000 kms and I’ve just bought a 1990 W126 420SE in Almandine Red in mint condition done 102000 kms and is a credit to the previous owners. I will be keeping these 2 cars and I’m looking for a house with a bigger garage! Please keep the videos coming….all things Mercedes Benz, the best or nothing!
Thoughts on owning a 08 e350 with amg package with 230k miles mostly highway thanks
Awesome video as usual, Pierre!
thank you
Nice to hear the same thoughts that I have from another person :)
Hey like ur review.... I was just wondering what is a decent price for a w114
love your channel
Well said sir!
Had a 2010 S550. It was a $120,000 car that I bought for $15K with 60,000 miles. What a fantastic vehicle.
Thanks for the perspective! I've bees trying ti explain this to people but it doesnt sink in. Theres a reason why poor people drive old Mercedes cars.(in South Africa at least)
Hi Pierre! Bill Hopper introduced me to you and your sister at the milestone 2015 Amelia Island events. My 1995 E320 Coupe is my dream car / daily driver and my next oil change will be at 326K miles. Thank you for your channel!
Omar! if you recall we're friends on fb. I am so glad you have kept up with that car!!
Thank you for the 99 C230 shout out. It’s true. I LOVE my 230. 2nd one i’ve owned. One Coupe and now sedan. But yes unless you order online such as FCP Euro and such.. Advance Auto Parts is the only place i know for german OEM equivalent parts. Keep up the great work, love the channel. Also i need a good manual. I would love the star manual on computer but any ideas???
thank you Randy. In order to get service docs on your computer you will need a cd with EPC and workshop information systems on it.
I have a w140 600SEL i have it for 2 years now 0 problems. So what you think about it? Any advices for the future?
Got my old men’s 1980’s w123 been in the family since new, stripped the whole car, welded, new cables, fully engine reconditioned, breaks/discs, suspension sprayed, did the whole interior and many more.. total so far i spend on my car roughly abt £12k... now is this car worth £12k now? Probably not, but I wouldn’t sell it even if someone offered me £100k or more. Will use it for next 20 yrs and then going to my 4yr old son when he grows up and knows the value n importance of this car.. absolutely in love with it.. 👌
How you going mate I have a 1983 380 sec and I cannot explain the feeling matey of when I look at her or sit in or drive her umm Cobba will u b able to help me maintain this just wonderfull piece of engineering on how to ensure I am looking after her properly new is new but for myself older is the better and your love is stronger and lasting
Really comes down to 3 things, $$, maintenance, and what you want. As you well note in your videos, some are more $$ and trouble than they are worth. Some don't appeal to your driving style. And then some have modern inconveniences which most of us don't like. I have a nice 2002 E320 Classic Sedan with leather interior which meets our needs for a comfortable ride/drive. We have a Chevy beater for shopping and parking lots. Our Merc is perfect for any road trip on highway or interstate. At 90K miles it still rides, drives, and performs like any new car. And the parts cost for occasional maintenance is very reasonable. Plus we don't lose a penny on depreciation! The Merc feels like I am riding in style from the moment we pull out of the driveway. Oh, did I mention that it performs perfectly when you need to pass on a 2 lane road? Always fun to drive. Fahrvergnugen!
Love your content!!!!!...I love all Mercedes!!!
Preach brother Pierre! Preach!
I'm 76yo and have owned numerous Mercedes the one I currently have is a 1990 420SEL with 67k, it is by far the most dependable and maintenance cost has been super low. I think it's one of the most elegant cars on the road and drives like a dream, still has the MBZ iconic smell
What do you think of w221 S300/S350? How is the reliability and cost of maintenance?
I remember the W116 450 SE silver grey with matching hub caps. Where are those? You see W123s and W124s, but the W116 are rare to see on the road.
Very true ..
What about the pb with the timing belts in w201, prior to their conversion to timing chains ?
Well said sir, u r the best. My 91, w124 r the best...give me Less headache compare to my other newer car.
that's the truth
big facts. got a car payment when I was 21 had it for 4yrs and was reposessed. after the smoke cleared I checked my documents they charged me 22k flat upfront for a 12k USED car that was 5 years old. Sure had under 75k but insurances are liars. dont buy nothing you cant buy in full. because youll pay more for not owning it then you would for parts to fix it. Thats real talk.
I hate the roll that I got but I fell inlove with it, and felt a personal endeavor I had to accomplish by achieving its functionality. Ive invested so much money this past year on working on this car and I would love if there was any infornation you could offer reguarding the m111 engines with even maybe matinence or anything at all even little tips anything is appreciated.
Thanks for the video I was happy to see my car wasnt on the list. If youve got oppinions on the m111 please share! appreciate all the videos and knowlesge you offer the mercedes owners community.
My W124 was great, as was my 3 W210’s. I now on my second W220 S500 4 matic. Even though you think it’s newer, it’s the best and better than the W140. Like a sports car compared to that tank.
Thanks!
very good information
How do you feel about E300 diesels? Are some better than others?
Which post 2010 Mercedes models are reliable ?
I think I should not have bought a 2001 CL600. Beautiful sitting still. Otherwise a world of trouble overheating. Blew top hose once.We found right-size-wrong-part fan was cooked and replaced it. Three hundred miles later the temp went nuts in traffic and the radiator exploded. Wish I knew what to fix!
Thanks dude!
300d by far. When Mercedes didn’t care about how much it cost to make a car, they only cared about the quality and reliability of there cars.
1995 E300D best....
@@laszlogq8203 it's too slow the 1987 300D is the best
I like this channel and Mercedes source Channel also restoration barn they restore a lot of Mercedes Benz cars too
Hi Pierre! I need some help? I have a 1990 230ce w124, the car misfires and on acceleration will hesitate to accelerate. At first I thought it was spark but after replacing the plugs, leads, cap and coil it’s still the same, I also swapped the fuel distributor and metering head. Any ideas? Thanks!
Pierre is legend.... if I met him I'd probly start mumbling maybe faint... he is the greatest thing to happen to mercedes
Very good bro.
FCP Euro sells W210 throttle position sensor for $150. Maybe $750 at dealer but you don't go to dealer for 18 year old car. Facelift W210 is one of the best out there. Relatively easy to work on and parts are plentiful and inexpensive. I've had my '01 E430 for 11 years and it's been a joy to own. Still drives great at 221,000 miles.
i am talking about the throttle transponder..totally different part
You forgot to mention immediate depreciation when you drive a new car off the lot. :) I think I shall watch your videos. Thanks for this.
" ok ok so he didn't tell you which car to buy ?" ( so i will tell you ! ) older mercedes go up in value and are " collectable 1/ e55 mercedes sedans especially wagons more rarer 2/ 1969 mercedes 300 sel 6.3 was fastest 4 door sedan in world when made 3/ also mercedes 6.9 litre collectable sedan 4/ 190 sl mercedes convertable 5/ 190 " gullwing expensive convertable " crazy prices " mega rich only can afford !" 6/ mercedes " slr" coupe ( powerful edition) conclusion : to name " just a few !"
Just bought my second W126, now a proud owner of a 1990 560sel and a 1990 300se.
I saw that "wizard" video and was asking the same question.
Happy new year! What’s your service and reliability experiences with the W212 E class?
My W212 has been fantastic. I have it serviced regularly at the MB dealership.
@@kevinowen4083 congrats 👏 it’s hard to imagine how the 212 is now considered a classic wherein 10 YAGO she was the pinnacle of MB engineering
I think most people want a lot of the little electrical doodads we find with modern cars. And cup holders, lol! Cup holders are huge. Kid you not, i know people who passed on 123's and 126's because they simply could not get beyond the fact that there were no cup holders.
For me, I LOVE my 126 grey market 500SEC. Especially after The Man himself went through it a couple of months ago. What a joy it is to drive.
We are German engineers, we know what you need. No cup holders! :) I love both my 123 & 126 but I could use a couple of cup holders especially for my morning commute coffee.
the cupholders were really a shit test to keep homer simpson out of a Mercedes. Cup holders...lol...who needs a cup when they are driving the best car in the world?
There is a time for driving and, a time to have a drink. Could fall into distracted driving category.
My used 01 Chrysler Neon came stock with 5 cup holders.
My used 99 W210 E320 4Matic came with plastic assembly with 2 cup holders that was broken. New part OEM part on eBay was around USD$ 100. I decided I can live without it, since I paid whole car CAD$ 2000.
I want a 190e 2.3-16 or a 190e 2.6 Sportline. Or I’m considering importing a 190e 2.5-16. I’ve seen low mileage ones for ~$22, 000.
Do you think a 1987-1991 mercedes 560 sec is wise investment? Is maintenance cost fairly manageable?
He is very on point!
Found a 2007 CLS 5:50 AM G 63 is that a good buy
Hi, Pierre. Love your vids. I've been researching MBs for about 12 years in anticipation of buying one. I definitely want a small-bumper R107. I've studied newer ones, too. My question for you is why does MB have such a long history of problems whit timing chains? Given their engineering prowess, why didn't they just design a system that works in all models. No matter the source, - your vids, other peoples' channels, articles both in print and online - "check the timing chain" always comes up. Why have they had this problem off and on for so long?
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Sir looking for a Ignition Control Module for a 1989 MB e260, where should I try shopping at....thanks in advance
Mr. Hedary, I have a friend that has (7) seven SL's of different models, years and condition. He has Parkinson and has progressed to a point he can't work on the cars anymore. He mentioned he was going to sell them to a dismantler. I saw one of your video's about selling Mercedes cars to those kind of businesses. I'd like to help him out but can only buy one of them not running. I currently have a 87 560 SL now I'll have two 560 SL's. Do you or anyone out there have any suggestions of how I can help him out.
Hey you have part in stock for the w201?
Pierre, your buddy Kent has done similar vids about buying a classic Mercedes with the stipulation that this wouldn't be a good buy for someone unwilling or unable to do most or at least some of the maintenance and repairs themselves due to the high expense of paying someone to do the work. Thoughts?
Hi Jon...I guess my explanation is that you can pay for a 5 year old korean, american or japanese vehicle, month after month, or you can pay someone to restore a 123/115/116/126/124 diesel for you. Even with someone else doing the labor, it is still less expensive than buying a modern car. Also, some people who have disposable income also enjoy these cars. Kent is shooting for a certain demographic....If you notice, i try to cover both ends of the mercedes spectrum...I know a lot of people who have 123s who can afford to have someone else do all the heavy lifting...and they love the cars nonetheless...
I just bought a 1995 A124 for $9500 and spent almost $4000 to get it to run perfectly and I’m ok with that. The car looks great and it’s unique and fun to drive. The smiles per miles outweigh the negatives.
Pierre has such common sense about costs and depreciation of new/nearly new vs old but the comment that most resonates with me is about new cars is 'they all look the same to me' and thats why I only drive W116 and W123's. Here is an example of economy- W123 280ce purchased 2009 for £1500 and spent £4000 over 13 years and now the car is worth £8000 and most importantly, its been my daily car and never ever let me down and people comment on it all the time (even a Astonmartin DB9 owner told me how pretty he thought it was!). I rest my case. wonderful
Good Morning Mr.Pierre, thanks for this helpful videos , i would like to get advises from an Expert, i live in Japan and came across a W123 , petrol engine with 174406 Km on the clock, it was parked for many years but the condition is pretty good at glance , please guide me to know what should and should not be done , Thanking in advance
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There is no substitute for intelligence. Most will not understand, those that do feel a bond. Thanks, you give me hope.
Well, for the price I've paid on my '90 w124 I could buy a 2k Ford Fiesta or something like that here in Brazil. I've made this choice due to my passion for engines and cars (grease) and thanks to a some guys like you that share your knowledge on the web. I'm not able to buy a new Mercedes but I'm pleased to have mine. I like too much the w201 too!
wow...a ford fiesta or a w124.....no brainer
@@mercedesclassicswithpierre1753 lol
Nice to see another Mercedes aficionado in Brazil. I am Brazilian and I currently live in Portugal. I have a W201 190D. I have some videos of the car in my channel.
@@LGaragem Valeu, irmão, aqui não é a coisa mais fácil pra se dedicar mas o que vale é o prazer de ter e dirigir uma "velharia" destas! rsrs
Quase comprei um w201 2.0 mas desisti por receio com a documentação; me arrependi depois, vi o carro regularizado e ajeitado num encontro no RJ. Ainda tenho vontade de possuir um mas está bem valorizado por aqui...
Abraço!
yes, Pierre is quite intellectually appealing. yeah the factor of depreciation often just flies over everyone's head, I find
thank you Joshua!
Some cars do depreciate a lot more than others and Mercedes is one of them.
Im into classics (I owned old Toyota Mark2, Ford Capri, Nissan Sunny and Toyota ke35 previously but they were not kind of a daily runners) ... But I also want them as a daily runner... I bought a w123 1982 240D Mercedes in 1900$ recently... Did I make a right choice?
absolutely. Now you have a suspension to rebuild and an ac system to overhaul, and a bunch of other small repairs, but the reliability and simplicity is just wonderful. Please email me if you have any questions at mbownersforlife@bellsouth.net
I am planning to buy classic Mercedes in canada Ontario which diesal mb should i buy and which year between 1973 to 1998 thanks
my 2004 w211 55amg did 285000 quick and harsh kilometers, no major problems. my w221 S63, 2008 now on 211000km. so far so good.
godspeed to you!
Mercedes Classic with Pierre Hedary and my W116 350SE 248000km, now needing some TLC, but turn the key and he runs.
The older Mercedes, though well built, don't have a fraction of the performance of the E55 W211. The handling, braking, comfort and safety are also exceptional in the W211, (thanks in part to advanced electronics). This is the last of a more modern breed, which is now being lost in Germany, thanks to radical EU policies, and extreme Euro enviromental restrictions.
Al in Africa they can run loose
Hola necesito cambiar la caja de velocidades automática de mi mercedes w124 1990 y no se como desmontarla tienes algún tutorial para poder realizarlo gracias de chile
I love my 71 W114 and 85 300CD. I can usually do the work myself, unless it's engine related. Then I don't know WTF I'm doing.
you need engine manuals. I would get the 1968 service manual that covers the m108.109,111 and 113. it covers the engines in the 114 as well...You will need a 617.95 engine manual for your 300cd as well as the 1985 introduction to service
2006 S430 W220
Hi. I am new to Mercedes Benz cars, but want to buy a used one that’s 3 to 4 years old. I’m trying to find a video that will tell me what is the best Mercedes to buy. Is it better to buy an SUV? A sedan? A hybrid? I just don’t know enough about Mercedes and can’t seem to find information that will help me. You seem to know a lot about Mercedes maybe you could do a video on a good Mercedes to buy that’s a few years old.But these videos that I’m finding are so detailed about old cars it’s really confusing.
Some people think that the newer the better. Having and maintaining an old car is a waste of time, money and your losing out on modern technology.
I agree the older cars should stay on the road and if you have the means you should. But as a daily driver the W211 I’ve been driving has been amazing opposed to my 95 300e