Derwent INKTENSE Pans vs Pencils - Do you need the Paint Pans if you have the Pencils?
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- If you love Inktense as much as I do, then you have probably seen that Derwent makes more than just Inktense Pencils. They also offer Inktense Paper, Inktense Paint Pans, and Inktense Blocks! Watch me unbox and review the Inktense Pans. What I really want to know is if I have the pencils, do I need the pans? And do the colors in the pans match the pencils? Join me as we compare the pans to the pencils!
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00:28:05 - Do I Recommend the Inktense Pans?
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I also think the sticks are nice because you can draw or use a brush. I use them much more than my pan.
Another set I love is the line and wash set.
I imagine the sticks would work wonderfully on fabric.
Thanks so much for doing this - I have been a Derwent “pan fan” since they debuted (as well as an Inktense pencil and block lover from the word ‘go’). Just FYI … there are actually _more_ than the 27 pan colors Blick lists (although it’s great to see them now including some of the alternatives). Some of these “bonus colors” came about when they created the 24-color Studio Set after Travel Set I & II were already on the market. There were some similar colors in the two sets, and these were replaced - both in the Studio Set and, going forward from that point, in Travel Set II. These colors were eliminated:
Scarlet
Tangerine
Light Olive
French Ultramarine
Sepia Ink
And these were added:
Cherry
Bright Orange
Hooker’s Green
Violet
Payne’s Grey
(Edit: Found and corrected the earlier “count and amount” discrepancy here.)
In addition, a few more colors were quietly added as part of the Line & Wash Drawing Set:
Sepia (not the same as Sepia Ink)
Venetian Red
Sanguine
As far as matching up some of the new pencil colors, especially, relative to the pans, I do seem to be getting different values from yours in a couple of cases, possibly due to dilution/intensity factors. First, I do get a good match between the Mango pan and the new Mango pencil. The Turquoise/Mineral Blue pairing I find more problematic. First, my Turquoise Pan swatch is so much deeper than my Mineral Blue pencil swatch that for me, they read as completely different colors. However, there is an additional wrinkle here … a “stealth” color/name variation in the system. Because there is no Outline pencil-equivalent in the Inktense Block set, we have long had a bonus Block color: Turquoise. And as with some other “same name”colors today, imho Turquoise Block is not the same as Turquoise Paint Pan (and obviously, nothing like Pastel Paint Pan Turquoise).
Finally, as this begins to hint and as you & Steve have so conscientiously discovered, not all pencil/pan color name correspondences turn out to be color matches. But as you’ve also seen, establishing beachheads of 100% assurance on that topic can be tricky, because of differences brought about by factors like intensity/dilution, etc. And yes, there may also be some hidden matches, where new names align with “old” colors … but keeping it simple for the moment, relying mostly on new names alone, one reason I love the Inktense pans so much is that they have added, at one time or
another, as many as
a dozen new colors to the line - two dozen if you’re willing to sneak in (or blend in, your call! lol) some lovely Derwent pastels! 😂😂 And that has been a tremendous help, especially in the days before the new pencil colors were added … Hope this helps!
P.S. One final tip: Do consider Mix ‘n Match palette fun as well! By way of example … maybe because I’ve never been a proper watercolor “purist“ about the use of white in my work, happy to spread a little gouache where needed, I’ve always been liberal with Antique White. I’ve also felt,
though, they there have been times when it’s just not “enough.” As such, I recently snuck a White half pan refill from the Tinted Charcoal Set into my palette. Voilà! I do believe my problem is solved! Ok - en-joy!! 😊🎨🖌️
Edited: Brain cramps unkinked/corrected discrepancies.
I have the Inktense pencils and blocks in 24 sets and the pan set 12 colors. I have experienced the same result in the past where I applied the paint too thick, ie, not enough water. And it lifts when you layer it. But when you layer many light washes with lots of water, wait to for the previous layer to dry completely, then your painting becomes permanent.
These are designed to be used in fabric. They aren't made to be used on paper. That's just a happy off- label use. When used as designed they are absolutely 100% permanent. I've never understood why anyone would expect them to be permanent on paper. Common sense... well, nevermind.
@@phillipstroll7385FYI the Derwent website lists paper as the first option for the pans. So they are definitely supposed to be used on paper as well as fabric.
Lat e comment. If one paints the pans would be great esp. for flowers, foliage, water all landscape, birds actually everything Then use pencils for fine detail and color combinations not in pans. I would like to have both!
My sweet beautiful little Rose Bud!
God bless you Jennifer and Steve 🙏💕 Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
I will be buying the pan set. I just have to have it thank you for sharing. ❤❤
Thank you for doing this! I love my Inktense pencils, and I know I’m getting this paint pan set for Christmas. I can’t wait to try them!
Wow nice swatches and it’s cool you were able to match them up with the pencils ❤
This couldn't have came at a better time since I asked you what you preferred before you made this video. Thank you so much Jennifer & Steve! Y'all are my go to advisors when I've not used something before. Thanx a ton 2 both of you.
Great video ! Thank you so much to both of you & Rosie !
Love the natural nails! More important, this was an informative video. I’ve had a lot of fun with these pans. Thank you and good health!
Thank you for doing this. I'm really curious to see how the pans and the sticks compare. But then again, I kind of made my own pans by cutting the stick to fit into half pans. Thank you for reminding me to use what I have! Especially since I splurged on the sticks so I really should use them.
Great Christmas gift for a lucky CZcamsr and what a wonderful way for you to drum up contacts for your newsletter. Very smart. A win win for all.
Love seeing the difference side by side. Derwent makes unique products- i also love their Graphitint pencils and the Drawing set of 24 colored Pencils.
I love this set. They are the same as the pencils and blocks as well. I got the other pans and put them where the sponge is.
I love the inktense products and I appreciate you doing the comparison
I love these pencils very excited for the video
The idea of creating a little six pan palette is genius. You could do three primaries, black, hite and a bonus color for fun
I like the pencils used lightly for drawing so there are no pencil lines left behind. Great video!
Thanks so so much for doing this. Comparing the different versions has been a goal of mine, but I have been hesitant to buy the new pans.
I own one set of pans since this spring that I am yet to open.
I also have the complete original set of pencils, the full set of sticks, and a 24 color set of sticks and my original 36 pencils. It just seems like so much of the same basic thing, which is an amazing art tool, but there are so many others I am hoping to buy. I hate to do more repeats!
Congratulations Lisa!
Y'all have so many cute coloring pages! These paints are interesting and with such wonderfully intense colors - they are well-named, lol. I do not own the pencils, but have always been intrigued by them. I do have the Caran D'Ache Supracolor II's and I wonder how these compare. Thank you for this video!
I have and love both, but they’re very different - worlds apart. This isn’t accurate because it doesn’t get to thinks like “look and feel,” just to begin with … but imagine you had two sets of brush-tipped “markers”… Tombow Dual-Tip water-based (or Sakura Koi watercolor pens - take your pick 😊) and Faber Castell PITT pens. Hope this helps.
What a great idea to place the 3 extra colors where the sponge is! I'm gonna do that!!!! THANK YOU! ❤❤❤ I wanted to buy them but my OCD was preventing me from doing so, because of those 3 extra colors. (No kidding here about my OCD) But you just solved my problem! 😅😊
Now, I'm gonna ask my husband to me them as my Christmas gift! 😊😊😊
Thank you for the video ☺️ I love my Inktense pencils, however I don't think I'll be adding the new pans to my stash.
Hullo Jennifer & Steve & Rose! I have 8 Inktense pencils and 27 blocks. I did purchase both the #1 & #2 Inktense pan sets and they are looking very much the same to me. I liked the Derwent plastic cases, I even got the pastel pans as well as the Graphitint pans! I did try to cut some of my blocks down, but these Derwent 1/2 pans are smaller than regular 1/2 watercolor pans so I can not switch them out easily. I was not able to include any other brands with my Inktense pans either. I am wondering about the Inktense paper and why it is so unique and so expensive! I have found regular watercolor paper works great with Inktense products. I believe hot press works best with the ink technology in the pencils and blocks/pans work good with any paper. Thank you for sharing your experience with us. Please take care, be safe and have a lovely day!🎉
wonderful comparison. for me, if paper feels dry but color leaks, the paper is not fully dried w/regards to pens. also, rough cold press seems to work best for pens & blocks. Ty.
Thank you for this video. I didn’t know that you could remove six pans and individual ones.
I use the pans to apply a light wash as background for cards. Not easy to do with the pencils.
I agree, absolutely! That’s why I’m champing at the bit for Derwent to produce the 28 new pencil colors as blocks. I’ll be ordering Malibu (and possibly Gold) by the boxful!
Jennifer, I am so delighted that you have a new Hanukkah 🕎 page. I cannot wait to color it. Thank you so very much!!!!!
Oh it's interesting, thank you for sharing :)
This is pretty neat. I didn't know they have paint pans. Can't wait to see these in action.
I'm not sure if I want to spend 44.00 for paints. But they really are pretty intense colors. Hmmmm. I'll have to really think on this. Lol
They have "paints" for several of their water soluble pencil lines including their Graphitints. They even have a mixed one that is like a sampler of Derwent Water Soluble products in the paint pans.
@@bette-annflood835FWIW, I’ve been seeing the various sets going for under $30 lately - most around $26-27. Also, you can just buy the individual refills if you just want to try one or two colors to see how they work for you. Hope this helps.
@@MaryYoungblood-xy8vgI have the gamut … the Inktense I & II Pan sets, Graphitint, Metallic and Pastel sets … I didn’t buy “Line & Wash” nor “Shade & Wash,” (except for buying the new Inktense colors open stock), since those were all duplicate products for me. But the lessons of those sets are well taken - I do sometimes use the various sets together in creating my pieces … Fwiw, although pretty and fun, I probably get the least use from the Metallic set - YMMV. Also, Derwent paints are completely different from my other lines, like Daniel Smith or other tube watercolors, Kuretake Gansai, or various watercolor pencils. They’re a bit “gouache-y” (especially the pastels), but what I love the most is how they expand my Inktense Universe - one of my very favorite places to play “Artist.”
@@ellariel7457 thank you.
looks great😄❤👏👏👏
Merry Christmas 🤶 🎄
If you can’t find a replacement for a pan of color, you can get the thinner stick and cut it to fit in the pan, like those three missing shades.
🎵One of these things is not like the other🎵
Following this video, the colors that didn’t match … themselves … continued to bother me. So I kept diving and diving through the Inktense Universe … until I landed on, well … definitely NOT the answer. But maybe another clue?
What I found are different lightfastness ratings for different formulations of the same Inktense color. Some colors, like Teal Green, show the same values across all products. Others differ, sometimes widely. So, although I have no idea _what,_ there does seem to be some kind of chemical/ingredient change that could be driving slight (or not so slight) differences in color.
Since we began here by looking at how the paints compared to the pencils, I’ve started by listing the colors that appear in the Inktense (and Pastel) Paint lines, along with the corresponding colors in pencils (and blocks and XL blocks where available). With those, I’ve included the corresponding Blue Wool Scale LF results. Unfortunately, Derwent doesn’t seem to be listing LF information for the 5 “retired” Inktense paint colors (Scarlet, Tangerine, Lt. Olive, French Ultramarine, Sepia Ink) the majority of which do have corresponding pencils, so those are omitted here.
Abbreviations:
IP - Inktense Paint Pan
PP - Pastel Paint Pan
P - Inktense Pencil
B - Inktense Block
XL - Inktense XL Block
Set I
Sun Yellow IP8/P7/B8/XL8
Mango IP8/P5
Poppy Red IP8/P4/B7/XL6
Bright Blue IP8/P8/B7
Teal Green IP8/P8/B8
Natural Brown IP8/P8
Ink Black IP8/P8/B8/XL8
Set II
Sherbet Lemon IP8/P7/B8
Cherry IP4/P2/B6
Fuchsia IP6/P5/B7/XL3
Violet IP8/P7/B7
Navy Blue IP8/P8/B7
*Turquoise IP8/B8
Ionian Green IP8/P7/B8
Hooker’s Green IP8/P8/B8
Red Oxide IP8/P4/B8
Payne’s Grey IP8/P8/B8/XL8
Antique White IP8/P8/B8/XL8
Pastel
Lemon PP7/P6
Pink Flamingo PP5/P4
Again, no idea what all this proves, but that’s where my Saturday evening went LOL
*Although IP and B share the same
name, they appear to be different products
Seems like the blocks would work for painting, too?
I was thinking that the pans would be good for under painting or creating a wash the pencils on to for the details
I have done under paintings for pastels. It works nicely when I put clear gesso over it because it doesn't smear. Because of the intense color I like areas to pop out.
I've seen many watercolor artists use the big blocks as if they were paint pans. I have seen a few abstract artists us the big blocks directly on the surface, but not nearly as many as I have seen people using with as paint pans with a wet paint brush. While I don't have any of those big blocks (yet - cmon Santa!), when I do get them I will use them giant watercolor pans.
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Would you please retest the permanence of a few of the Inktense pan colors and let us know what you learn? If the color lifts, then there's no advantage over pan or tube watercolors. Thanks!
I use inktense a lot. What I find is you have to make sure you completely dissolve the pigment
and it does take longer to dry than watercolor paint. It's very different and does have a bit of a learning curve. It can be streaky until you get the hang of it. And it is intense color. I use my pencils much much more.
Loved this video, thank you.
I love the look of these pans. I think I'd rather have those than the pencils.
Try Peacock with the Ultramarine. I think that is closer to
Do those colours match the new 28 colour pencils?
What are the three extra colors missing in this set? I have the set of 24 too.
I think sepia, olive and maybe steel blue. But sepia and olive for sure.
@@marytesta3003 Thanks!
The three Blick currently has (there are others) are: French Ultramarine, Light Olive, and Sepia Ink (listed by Blick as Sepia). Hope this helps.
@@ellariel7457 Thanks 😊
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Natural nails?
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Not a fan of the pans. I got the pencils and the blocks with the purpose of using them in my quilts… which I haven’t tried yet…but I like to color my drawings with them!
I bought the 12 set of pencils for coloring on fabric. They worked nice. Very pretty.
@@bette-annflood835 That’s fabulous!!!
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Oh and that's for regular printer paper. Wouldn't dare desire nor require watercolor paper for coloring. Even newsprint would be more than adequate.
I really enjoyed the comparison between the pencils and the pans. Either of these Inktense products are out of my budget range, but I hope I will be able to afford the pencils in the future. I have been a Bliss member for almost 10 years, now, but I can't ever seem to enter any of the contests without adding an app that I don't have to enter. A glitch in Facebook caused a massive influx of message notifications that weren't even addressed to me, and until I clear out over 9,000 emails, I don't feel capable of handling input from other apps until I manage to clear up all the back log on my email that is causing me to miss some very important messages because of all the extra unwanted emails making me miss seeing them. Glad that you are feeling better now, Jennifer,
I just ordered a set! I love Inktense for its vibrancy and have a set of the pencils but always struggle with the pencil lines not. being dissolved all the way so I usually just pull color off the tip of the pencil. The pans look like they would be easier to picking up the color.
You should of not put pencil on paper and do it directly from pencil would match better.
These are designed to be used on fabric. Not paper. They will reactivate on paper but ARE permanent on fabric. Just like they are supposed to be.
...Which is why they make specially-branded Inktense paper?... 🤔
@@confidential5897 don't ask me.
I use mixed media paper. It seems to work better(in my opinion).
It must take a lot of pigment on fabric?
@@phillipstroll7385 my point is that it's a little inconsistent to say that they are not supposed to be used on paper when the company that puts out the pencils and pan sets also specifically markets paper for them. It might be fair to say that they are more effective on fabric - it's easier to totally saturate the pigment on fabric. But clearly they were not designed to be used on fabric but NOT paper. And in my experience, they are permanent on paper as long as they you don't lay it down too heavily; if there's unwet particles left, those will reactivate. That said, they are pretty amazing on fabric.
phillipstrll said they are supposed to be permanent in general. They did not say they are not meant to be permanent on paper.
Yes