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Even with a tow tether, I would always carry an extra biner with a 3/8 inch Dyneema sling that was about 4 ft long. It is smaller and lighter than the webbing and holds 4000+ lbf without needing a knot. The Bluewater is about 2000 lbf before tying the knot and probably 1200 lbf after. The Bluewater weighs about 74g where the Dyneema is about 35g. With the complete loop, you also eliminate the need for the second carabiner in most situations as you can quickly attach with a Larks Head to a boat or do a simple basket anchor with one biner.
Wade, I saw this video recently and made one. Paddling on New Years day, someone swam and was heading towards a dam, I deployed this and they didn't go over the dam. Thanks for the video, they make a difference!
I never even carried one until i saw this video and now i have one just like yours. I also saw the other video where you were talking about not wearing a biner on a vest. Ive ran one on my vest for years with no problems and disagreed with the video. By the end of the video i was convinced that i should remove that from my vest and store it in a better place. Its now in a pocket. These videos are very helpful. Thank you very much for looking deep into your crystal ball and sharing the wisdom.
@@WadeHarrison no need to Wade your followers can do this for you. Your super busy getting great content for me to watch and listen 🎶 loving the podcast 👌
@@WadeHarrison I can see how. I know how much time it takes to tie a bowline and even though its fairly quick even to untie, the carabiner is right away.
Years ago I used the exact same set up you describe, it was great for the utility but fell short for anchors (big trees/boulders on a lot of pnw rivers). Recent years I switched to 20ft of the same 5/8th webbing rolled in the chest pocket. Covers nearly all practical anchors and can do most of the utility, especially useful for a quick toss. But it's cumbersome having 20ft for the sketchy boat exit or portage assist, and forget about towing. I totally forgot about the hidden pocket on the hustler pfd, think ill have to make a short strap to tuck in there and carry both. Thanks for the video and sharing the good tips!
Certain guides/swiftwater rescue instructors train to run a sling with a carabiner around the waist. Commonly referred to as a guide belt. I prefer your method because it is less likely to catch on something. My concern if you are swimming and make a Hail Mary move climb up over a log, I don't want a carabiner catching on a branch. Yes, you should never find yourself in this situation, but you never know. Your safety equipment shouldn't decrease your safety. This sling and carabiners looks good for "walking the dog". Glad to see that your lockers are locked. It looks like you are running nylon tubular webbing. Very robust and easy to tie knots in. This is the same as what I use. If you want super light weight you go for a Dyneema sewn sling. It will be strong and light. Dyneema doesn't work well with knots, so you won't be able to create the same configuration shown. You will want to get the right size. Ie. 60 cm, 120 cm, 240cm, etc.
Good feedback Dan that’s why I like putting these up no one item works for everyone and not everyone will agree i want to get different opinions and options and always keep the safety conversation open..
Wade I used mine yesterday and one of the TRANGO carabiners wouldn't open until we wacked it on some rock... just a reminder to check them once in awhile before needing them.
oh yeah, I did a video on Caribiner care link below! I might redo something on that because I have heard so many stories about that same thing. Once was with me a Guy was trying to clip into a pinned boat with a black diamond screw gate and it was rusted shut in the lock position and pretty much useless, and to note I keep my sling ones in the down position and only lock them when the carabiners are in use because the sling is in my pocket. czcams.com/video/gAXE3mWVoTw/video.html
@@WadeHarrisonwe had several other biners on hand so we just clipped one of them on the locked Trango.. all good but still I will do periodic checks and maintenance of my carabineers not just assume they all work
Bit of a rope/knot nerd myself. There are options to attach the caribeaner with no loop needed. Also other options for building an anchor. But the basics of this are on point and in my opinion a standard piece of gear
Great stuff man. I can't tell you the number of times over the years I've had to tell someone to chill with the 70ft throwbag and just tossed someone the end of my sling, or used my sling to clip onto something . KISS... always KISS!
Great info my friend!! I just did a video on carabiners when kayak fishing and went over why to use locking carabiners only. Safety is always a top priority for me too!! That video will release in a couple weeks.
my 2 vest are Kokatat , I use a sling myself I have a 3 carabiners on mine one on each end and another about 2 foot down, which I clip for a shoulder sling, so I can slide it off by just dropping my arm down if I need to.
That webbing is the shit. Me and my guys at work carry slightly wider webbing in our turnout gear. The way we use it is to create a big loop by tying the two ends together with a water knot. You can use it to carry equipment up ladders, for hasty rescue/repelling harness, or for anchors when we rig rope rescue systems. Really, the uses are only limited to your imagination. 4 guys with webbing and carabiners can come up with some really interesting uses for it in a pinch.
Tow teacher, I still want to be able to clip into something on the fly ,one handed, ultra fast.... And 20+ feet of ultra light line in the chest pocket for slightly more complicated and longer issues, most of which you state, lowering, portage, Anker, micro throw bag...
Using tape as an anchor it is recommended to use a carabiner. Tape against tape under tension could result in weakening the tape which might later fail.
Great article wade. I only carry a closed loop sling with one crab in my NRS front pocket. Used plenty of times to rescue loose kayak and portaging. Also carry a 5metre tape for close rescues.
Thank you so much, Wade! I have been looking for just this and so glad you had this tutorial available. I've been contemplating getting a tow tether, but was not convinced that was what I truly wanted/needed. This makes so much more sense and has so many more uses. I can't thank you enough! Just made mine this morning =) Thanks, again!
I use a 9mm (I think) cordalette with two locking biners and I stuff it where the fleece hand pocket is on the green jacket and it stays there very nicely; hasn’t come loose yet. Very accessible too!!
I got the Trango react locking carabiners and the fit easily into the hustler side pocket. There a little cheaper than the Superflys. Love your videos man, thanks for all the info!
@@WadeHarrison I would agree fully. I picked up some black diamonds at REI the other day and think I will return them. I like the trangos better. BTW were you on the upper hiwassee last Friday?
Harrison Sling 😂 I can't take credit for it buddy Raft Guides have been using it for years and after paddling with A guy that saved a Kayaker out of a bad Pin with one, I'm over there fooling around getting a rope and clip ready he just jumped out his boat and ran over tossed the sling that had a clip on it the paddler clipped into the grab handle and we pulled the kayak free with just the sling. I was like oh I have to make one of those ASAP!
Only thing I would change is the square knot on a bight to a figure 8 on a bight. The figure 8 has a higher Kn rating. But I am partial to it from climbing.
yeah, I tried a few different ones in it and was trying to find the smallest one and the overhand loop seemed to be good but like I said any type that creates a loop will work..
dont use figure8 on slings, the 8 is meant for rope for slings its the best thing a water knot (basically a figure 6 or overhand knot, whatever you call it) wade has the exact correct knot for slings (maybe i have a little longer free ends, but his is ok) but the 6 does lower the tensile strength of the sling, all knots do, but this is the best one for slings
I’ve tried to use this setup with my HusleR but I can’t get even my smallest locking biner in the slip of the pocket. It’s too small. Anyone else have this problem? I don’t want to cut any stitches for fear that the whole thing will unravel.
Are you using the Trango screw gates? They are slightly smaller then most and still very well made and high quality the breaking strength is right there with black diamonds and Petzl I put a link to those in the description where can get them a regular size carabiner will not slide in there easily and really you can just put it in your front pocket if can’t make it work in that opening I carry mine there after I use it sometimes..
I’ll try the trango. Thanks! I have a cypher firefly II that barely fits and it’s quite compact. I’m wondering if they make the opening on the S/M pfd a smidge smaller
@@MsViki3 my friend has the Hustler R Small he weighs 130lbs and he keeps this exact sling in the opening and the Trangos are tight fit but do fit I know that for sure in all sizes I can’t get my Petzl or black diamonds to go in there at all
Great! Ordered and excited to try them. I have a kokatat tow tether that I stripped the outer sleeve from but it was so much to fuss with keeping the tape taught to my body and it was still a potential hazard. Your setup is practical and on the safer end of the spectrum. Thanks for sharing.
My Last one I had Black Diamonds Screw gates 12$ a piece then lost it. Or someone jacked it? And next One I found the Trango Carabiners www.rei.com/product/100232/trango-superfly-screwlock-carabiner At Rei at the time they were $6.95 a piece and the breaking strength is actually higher than black diamonds. I have in my vest still Black diamond but on the sling, I use Trango screw gates. Link Above
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@@KCCNYwhitewater no problem buddy
what size carabiner? what brand and model of biner
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Palm snake sling with locking carabiners (and a safety knife) in my PFD.
I have seen that palm one it looks perfect
Even with a tow tether, I would always carry an extra biner with a 3/8 inch Dyneema sling that was about 4 ft long. It is smaller and lighter than the webbing and holds 4000+ lbf without needing a knot. The Bluewater is about 2000 lbf before tying the knot and probably 1200 lbf after. The Bluewater weighs about 74g where the Dyneema is about 35g. With the complete loop, you also eliminate the need for the second carabiner in most situations as you can quickly attach with a Larks Head to a boat or do a simple basket anchor with one biner.
Thats really great idea I like that. Thanks for the feedback!
Wade, I saw this video recently and made one. Paddling on New Years day, someone swam and was heading towards a dam, I deployed this and they didn't go over the dam. Thanks for the video, they make a difference!
Wow that’s awesome putting this to use glad it all worked out and everyone was ok buddy!
I never even carried one until i saw this video and now i have one just like yours. I also saw the other video where you were talking about not wearing a biner on a vest. Ive ran one on my vest for years with no problems and disagreed with the video. By the end of the video i was convinced that i should remove that from my vest and store it in a better place. Its now in a pocket. These videos are very helpful. Thank you very much for looking deep into your crystal ball and sharing the wisdom.
Well glad I can help!
Love it. I use sewn runners that do basically the same thing. Nice thing is the sewn runner lay flat where the knot is.
Yeah, I have seen those runners like the no knot in them probably will pick one of those up at some point
6" = 1.8m
For all the Europeans out there 😁
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Dam I Messed up i forgot to do my metic conversion I try to remember that when doing these types of videos thanks Trevor
@@WadeHarrison no need to Wade your followers can do this for you. Your super busy getting great content for me to watch and listen 🎶 loving the podcast 👌
@@trevorpearce3227 hey thanks buddy
I don't carry a sling like that. But I will now. I have a lot of 1 inch strap and a lot of biners. Nice piece of kit
Its come in handy so many times for me!
@@WadeHarrison I can see how. I know how much time it takes to tie a bowline and even though its fairly quick even to untie, the carabiner is right away.
Years ago I used the exact same set up you describe, it was great for the utility but fell short for anchors (big trees/boulders on a lot of pnw rivers). Recent years I switched to 20ft of the same 5/8th webbing rolled in the chest pocket. Covers nearly all practical anchors and can do most of the utility, especially useful for a quick toss. But it's cumbersome having 20ft for the sketchy boat exit or portage assist, and forget about towing. I totally forgot about the hidden pocket on the hustler pfd, think ill have to make a short strap to tuck in there and carry both. Thanks for the video and sharing the good tips!
Good feedback and yeah will be limited in certain situations I’m sure
Certain guides/swiftwater rescue instructors train to run a sling with a carabiner around the waist. Commonly referred to as a guide belt. I prefer your method because it is less likely to catch on something. My concern if you are swimming and make a Hail Mary move climb up over a log, I don't want a carabiner catching on a branch. Yes, you should never find yourself in this situation, but you never know. Your safety equipment shouldn't decrease your safety.
This sling and carabiners looks good for "walking the dog".
Glad to see that your lockers are locked.
It looks like you are running nylon tubular webbing. Very robust and easy to tie knots in. This is the same as what I use. If you want super light weight you go for a Dyneema sewn sling. It will be strong and light. Dyneema doesn't work well with knots, so you won't be able to create the same configuration shown. You will want to get the right size. Ie. 60 cm, 120 cm, 240cm, etc.
Good feedback Dan that’s why I like putting these up no one item works for everyone and not everyone will agree i want to get different opinions and options and always keep the safety conversation open..
Wade I used mine yesterday and one of the TRANGO carabiners wouldn't open until we wacked it on some rock... just a reminder to check them once in awhile before needing them.
oh yeah, I did a video on Caribiner care link below! I might redo something on that because I have heard so many stories about that same thing.
Once was with me a Guy was trying to clip into a pinned boat with a black diamond screw gate and it was rusted shut in the lock position and pretty much useless, and to note I keep my sling ones in the down position and only lock them when the carabiners are in use because the sling is in my pocket.
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@@WadeHarrisonwe had several other biners on hand so we just clipped one of them on the locked Trango.. all good but still I will do periodic checks and maintenance of my carabineers not just assume they all work
Bit of a rope/knot nerd myself. There are options to attach the caribeaner with no loop needed. Also other options for building an anchor. But the basics of this are on point and in my opinion a standard piece of gear
Very true!
I like a longer line so its easier to walk my boat in the water from shore if I have to. Same concept.
Smiles
What’s the length just curious
Great stuff man. I can't tell you the number of times over the years I've had to tell someone to chill with the 70ft throwbag and just tossed someone the end of my sling, or used my sling to clip onto something . KISS... always KISS!
Dude many times I have just tossed this to someone also
Well said! Thank you.
Thanks buddy I appreciate your content and what you add out there also!
Great info my friend!! I just did a video on carabiners when kayak fishing and went over why to use locking carabiners only.
Safety is always a top priority for me too!!
That video will release in a couple weeks.
Awesome keep the videos and the topics open love it!
@@WadeHarrison thank you good Sir!! Love your content as well, really like those podcasts too!!
my 2 vest are Kokatat , I use a sling myself I have a 3 carabiners on mine one on each end and another about 2 foot down, which I clip for a shoulder sling, so I can slide it off by just dropping my arm down if I need to.
nice!
That webbing is the shit. Me and my guys at work carry slightly wider webbing in our turnout gear. The way we use it is to create a big loop by tying the two ends together with a water knot. You can use it to carry equipment up ladders, for hasty rescue/repelling harness, or for anchors when we rig rope rescue systems. Really, the uses are only limited to your imagination. 4 guys with webbing and carabiners can come up with some really interesting uses for it in a pinch.
Thanks for the feedback Larry I like doing these to see how many carry things like this or something similar
Heck yes! More slings! I run with nearly the same thing. However, I used a long nylon climbing runner and cut it in half.
yeah that works
Tow teacher, I still want to be able to clip into something on the fly ,one handed, ultra fast.... And 20+ feet of ultra light line in the chest pocket for slightly more complicated and longer issues, most of which you state, lowering, portage, Anker, micro throw bag...
That 20+ feet of line is a really good idea totally agree with that I use to carry a roll of 550 paracord for that I need to add that back to the bag!
Using tape as an anchor it is recommended to use a carabiner. Tape against tape under tension could result in weakening the tape which might later fail.
What do you mean by Tape? Is that what your calling webbing?
@@WadeHarrison sorry, transatlantic error, called climbing tape here.
Great article wade. I only carry a closed loop sling with one crab in my NRS front pocket. Used plenty of times to rescue loose kayak and portaging. Also carry a 5metre tape for close rescues.
nice, good idea with the 5-meter piece
Thank you so much, Wade! I have been looking for just this and so glad you had this tutorial available. I've been contemplating getting a tow tether, but was not convinced that was what I truly wanted/needed. This makes so much more sense and has so many more uses. I can't thank you enough! Just made mine this morning =) Thanks, again!
Glad I could help out Darlene!
I use a 9mm (I think) cordalette with two locking biners and I stuff it where the fleece hand pocket is on the green jacket and it stays there very nicely; hasn’t come loose yet. Very accessible too!!
Nice thanks for the feedback
great useful video, thanks for sharing with us
thanks for watching Josh
I got the Trango react locking carabiners and the fit easily into the hustler side pocket. There a little cheaper than the Superflys. Love your videos man, thanks for all the info!
Yeah those are nice i just picked some up the other day I think the trango brand has really done a great job with their products
@@WadeHarrison I would agree fully. I picked up some black diamonds at REI the other day and think I will return them. I like the trangos better. BTW were you on the upper hiwassee last Friday?
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The sling is where it’s at!
for sure!
Down with tethers, long live the Harrison sling. Have a stash slot on my ninja where I will add one, thanks
Harrison Sling 😂 I can't take credit for it buddy Raft Guides have been using it for years and after paddling with A guy that saved a Kayaker out of a bad Pin with one, I'm over there fooling around getting a rope and clip ready he just jumped out his boat and ran over tossed the sling that had a clip on it the paddler clipped into the grab handle and we pulled the kayak free with just the sling. I was like oh I have to make one of those ASAP!
Only thing I would change is the square knot on a bight to a figure 8 on a bight. The figure 8 has a higher Kn rating. But I am partial to it from climbing.
yeah, I tried a few different ones in it and was trying to find the smallest one and the overhand loop seemed to be good but like I said any type that creates a loop will work..
dont use figure8 on slings, the 8 is meant for rope
for slings its the best thing a water knot (basically a figure 6 or overhand knot, whatever you call it)
wade has the exact correct knot for slings (maybe i have a little longer free ends, but his is ok)
but the 6 does lower the tensile strength of the sling, all knots do, but this is the best one for slings
Any problem with losing it when it is tucked behind the main jacket pad. Had a cup of coffee while I watched this one ;)
coffee ☕️ anytime over red bull and no I have been rocking this set up since had the jacket and it’s never been lost out the pocket
Nice 🤙🏽
Thanks
I’ve tried to use this setup with my HusleR but I can’t get even my smallest locking biner in the slip of the pocket. It’s too small. Anyone else have this problem? I don’t want to cut any stitches for fear that the whole thing will unravel.
Are you using the Trango screw gates? They are slightly smaller then most and still very well made and high quality the breaking strength is right there with black diamonds and Petzl I put a link to those in the description where can get them
a regular size carabiner will not slide in there easily and really you can just put it in your front pocket if can’t make it work in that opening
I carry mine there after I use it sometimes..
I’ll try the trango. Thanks! I have a cypher firefly II that barely fits and it’s quite compact. I’m wondering if they make the opening on the S/M pfd a smidge smaller
@@MsViki3 my friend has the Hustler R Small he weighs 130lbs and he keeps this exact sling in the opening and the Trangos are tight fit but do fit I know that for sure in all sizes I can’t get my Petzl or black diamonds to go in there at all
Great! Ordered and excited to try them. I have a kokatat tow tether that I stripped the outer sleeve from but it was so much to fuss with keeping the tape taught to my body and it was still a potential hazard. Your setup is practical and on the safer end of the spectrum. Thanks for sharing.
Is there a certain brand of carabiner you recommend?
My Last one I had Black Diamonds Screw gates 12$ a piece then lost it. Or someone jacked it?
And next One I found the Trango Carabiners www.rei.com/product/100232/trango-superfly-screwlock-carabiner At Rei at the time they were $6.95 a piece and the breaking strength is actually higher than black diamonds.
I have in my vest still Black diamond but on the sling, I use Trango screw gates. Link Above
Man I’ve already got 2 inch loops on the side of my head 😂 I’m a walking sling yeeyee
😂 yeah and would be awesome you clip some extra carabiners in there as holders
I’m over here watching this and my wife is next to me and all she heard was when it gets wet it gets tight and she’s like what are you watching 😂
Hhaha well that’s true for many things i would agree 🤔
Z drag is all you need. If a z drag won't work then it's not coming out.
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