Snake Eyes Multiple Complicated Origin Stories - Explored - Most Dangerous Ninja Of G.I Joe Universe
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- Snake Eyes is that one stealthy ninja whose stealth, silence, and sword speak more than men armed with guns. Introduced in a toy line in 1982 by Hasbro, the eponymous ninja is finally getting his own spin-off after almost four decades, and we couldn’t be happier! He has also appeared in a comic series written by Larry Hama, who was actually working on an idea for a new comic based on Nick Fury’s son, Director of Shield. Hama used this premise and developed it around Snake Eyes. Snake Eyes features as a Vietnam war veteran who was friends with Storm Shadow before he became the Storm Shadow. The stealthy ninja goes to Storm Shadow’s Arashikage clan to learn martial arts under the likes of the Hard Master. Since the beginning of time, Snake Eyes has been portrayed as a fairly intellectual and considerate man who knew his way around people and difficult situations. For instance, he doesn’t shy away from letting others win if he feels that doing so would save them from shame and dishonor. He is someone who believes in losing a battle to win the war. However, his character and personality were never explicitly explored in almost any work of cinema or cartoon. With his stand-alone film releasing this Friday, 23rd of July 2021, Marvelous Video thought it was only prudent to give him the respect and appreciation that he deserves. In this video, we will discuss the movies, cartoons, and comics that have featured Snake Eyes and take a closer look at his personal and professional quests.
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0:00 Intro
2:04 G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero: Snake Eyes: The Origin (comic)
6:53 G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero (1983 T.V. series)
10:37 G.I. Joe sigma 6
12:49 G.I. Joe: Resolute
16:30 Snake-Eyes Deadgame by IDW Publishing
19:40 Snake Eyes in Movies G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
23:24 GI Joe Retaliation
24:56 Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins (2021) - Zábava
The snake eyes' movie was such a disservice to the character
Why did they do ?
@@altarush kept him unmasked, didn't shut up during the whole movie, and pretty much turned him into an yakuza lackey until near the end when he went "oh i did an oopsie" and the wore the suit 5 minutes before the movie end for the sake of sequel bait
@@darkroninmarvelnot only that, but it didn’t really answer any questions as to why he wears a mask and why he doesn’t talk.
@@darkroninmarvelDon't forget the race bending
Makes me sick
"Furthermore, we're hoping that this movie (Snake Eyes) focuses more on the comics and their relationship"
*Hope has been shattered*
What made Snake Eyes so compelling was that we DIDN'T know anything about him. He was a ninja, he was meant to be a mystery from beginning to end.
Snake Eye's has always been my favorite character in GI-Joe and period. Growing up introverted I immediately gravitated towards silent protagonist.
In the Cartoon they never mentioned it. The Marvel Comic did the best job of it. That he could not talk because of an Accident that happened when he was trying to save Scarlet's life, Also that Snake Eyes, Stalker and Storm Shadow fought together in Vietnam and the Special Forces. Over 2 issues the Story of Snake Eyes was told. Zartan killed the Hard Master but apparently was trying to kill Storm Shadow at the time.
@naitethagr8 dAmN DuDe.. really...
Zartan was paid by Firefly to kill Snake-Eyes because Firefly was paid by Cobra Commander to kill Snake-Eyes, but due to a training match between Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow wherein Snakes let Stormy win, Firefly realized that he couldn't beat Snake-Eyes and was actually afraid to try to kill him. Zartan had chosen to renege on the deal but Firefly made him carry it out and using one of Stormy's arrows, fired it at "Snake-Eyes" not realizing that Snakes was observing the Hard Master mimic Snake-Eyes' own breathing patterns in one of the more obscure Arashikage techniques. Zartan killed Hard Master, Stormy saw him escape in a Cobra chopper flown by Firefly and Snake-Eyes blamed Stormy for Hard Master's death due to the arrow and Stormy running off in pursuit of the chopper which made it look like Stormy was fleeing the scene. For years Snakes hated Stormy all the while Stormy was working his way up in the ranks of Cobra to learn the identity of the man that killed Hard Master.
@naitethagr8 lol they showed Shipwreck and ALPINE more than Snake Eyes or Storm Shadow in the cartoons. Absolutely ridiculous haha
@@Falcun21 Im so mad they keep fucking up this story in live action and cartoon adaptations lol
Those comics were great. Issue #21 Silent Interlude. No dialogue.
Don't pay too much attention to this video. It lost track after getting away from the comics. If you really want to know the origin of snake-eyes, read "snake-eyes declassified". His history is so much better and deeper than what you might think. It's a great read if you can find it. This video go so many things wrong it's ridiculous.
Yeah
It wasn't Stalker that told Snake-Eyes his family died...it Was Hawk.
Snakeeyes is an absolute badass
The director had the opportunity to do the most amazing movie and, instead, created something that will soon be forgotten. This was not a Snake Eyes movie. Snake Eyes has a 40 year history with GIJoe and his origin story, as created by Larry Hama, was amazing. Changing this so drastically and labeling it 'origins' was a disservice to the character and franchise.
The worst part is G.I. Joe comics creator Larry Hama was involved (as Exec Producer). Now I know a lot of times in Hollywood, an "Executive producer" label can range from either 'one of the top head honchos' to "eh we just gave him/her this title to make them feel good as they still had no say or pull in the production so its just an honorary title' (kinda like Tae Kwon Do head Jhoon Ree giving President Reagan an honorary TKD black belt in the 80's or Marvel Studios always giving Stan Lee an 'executive producer' title on many of their movies despite him not having any say in them;), so we dont know how much power Larry had on the film if at all; we just know that he was part of it and he in an article, defended its decisions.
@@budgiecat2885 argh I didn't know that. I know he's gone very woke in recent years but I had hoped he would try and defend his own creation. So sad.
@@ChapMeifan
"Hama added that fans who claim to love the characters but take issue with updates like the changing of their race or gender “never really understood” what they were all about.
Speaking about the X-Men, Hama said the narrative entirely centered on social outcasts and marginalised people.
“The whole concept was about others seeking acceptance, and others being discriminated against. The whole anti-mutant crusade stuff, all of that was an allegory and they never got it [laughing]
“If they say the same thing about GI Joe, then they never got it either, because it was always about inclusion on all fronts”.
“With the family TV, my grandmother would come running into the other room and start shouting that there’s an Asian person on TV because it was so rare. We never saw any sort of representation”.
“So for me, to be making these tentpole movies with Asians in the lead is something that I never thought I’d see in my lifetime”.
Hama said that he had never really considered the race of Snake Eyes to be important until he was questioned about it years later.
“I was doing a panel and this Asian kid at the back of the auditorium raises his hand to ask a question and said, ‘So tell me, Mr Hama, why is the most badass ninja in the entire world some white guy?’ [laughing].
“I was floored! I didn’t know how to answer him. I thought, you know, there seemed to be almost no way to fix that within the comic context.”
While the casting of a blockbuster action film with an Asian-fronted cast is “huge” for Hama, he doesn’t believe that this, or any other incarnation of Snake Eyes, is in a sense the “true” Snake Eyes. For him, the “flesh and blood” portrayal of his characters as real people is the most important aspect of all.
www.fandom.com/articles/snake-eyes-larry-hama-race
@@budgiecat2885 While I do understand Mr. Hama's view, there is already a massive foundation for the Joe mythos that is not being considered. Snake Eyes' story is a tragedy starting in Vietnam and leading to inclusion by way of the Arishkage clan and finally the Joe team. Snake Eyes' story was always (in my opinion) that of the average soldier in Nam who was rejected and came home to either hostility or nothing. A reinvention of himself and finding his connection. It works for him to be a white male as this was the demographic that he represented. To take that away and rewrite it seems to be malpractice in handling the character in order to satisfy a social agenda. But just my two cents.
@@ChapMeifan Yes you're right but as I stated (maybe not totally in the post you're replying to but in multiple posts) that this problem is compounded.
First you have Larry Hama's views as seen in the article interview. He is a former Vietnam war vet himself. So that's where we got all the wonderful knowledge of war time lingo and stuff. I remember reading on the back of some of the toys (of which he all wrote btw) "Warsaw Pact Small Arms" and "NATO" and having to ask my dad what those meant.
So it was really cool how in depth the toys got because f him;. This at the time resulted in Hasbro getting licensing from the U.S. military to use certain military terms, badges etc.
Now, a lot of that licensing is gone.
The licensing isn't expensive btw; just in case anyone tries to use that as an excuse.
So Hasbro of today has been trying to distance itself from the U.S. military as much as possible.
Even back in the 80's we saw elements of this when the toy line, comics and show were rebranded as "Action Force: International Heroes" with no mentioning of "G.I. Joe a Real American Hero".
And then fast forward to the first 2 live action G.I. Joe movies. I I barely remember them (other than being mediocre to bad), but I seem to recall them being more of the 'International hero" brand more so than focusing on them being a top branch U.S. military organization.
Especially when they had members with foreign accents indicating they were not from America.
Going back to Hama: in that article, we can see him talking about his acting past from 40 years ago when he couldn't get lead roles.
As well as his story about some Asian kid asking him why Snake Eyes was 'just some White guy', as if the Asian kid, who knew Larry created the character, was trying to throw some shade on him or some kind of guilt trip like 'hey fellow Asian person, how dare you make the worlds badass Ninja a white guy? Dont you know Ninja are supposed to be Asian? Why would you culture appropriate the Asian folklore badass to a White guy being that you are Asian? - you know that sorta thing. And he said for that he was 'floored' and didn't have an answer for the kid (whereas I woulda told that kid to shove off).
And now we fast forward to todays more PC progressive times especially in Hollywood, where even the Oscars now have Diversity mandates (4 of them where you need to meet 2 to be eligible; not that Snake Eyes is gonna be nominated for an Oscar or anything but you get the idea where HW is headed in all this)
and you see that it has been a trending thing for HW to push more diversity and inclusion in its movies in order to look like they are on 'the right side of justice' and are doing the right thing. Even though its all really just posturing and pandering and self congratulatory nonsense.
So what we ended up with is a focus on meeting said diversity quotas, as well as Hama finally seeing and being part of n Asian led cast which makes him feel proud since his past struggles of making into HW +40 years ago when that sorta thing was not as common for Asians; we have Hasbro trying to distance itself from the source material also for progressive reasons, all instead of trying to make a good story that respects the source material.
Fun fact,the live action Snake Eyes in the G.I Joe films is played by the same guy that played Darth Maul in the Phantom Menace.
I met Ray Park at the Star wars episode 1 convention. Nice and funny guys d very athletic. He did all of or most of his own stunts in The Phantom Menace and the G I Joe movies
Having "Origins" stick with the main title is a catastrophe in the making
Is it really that hard for people to mention snake eyes relationship with Scarlett or are they just going to completely forget that they have been together for 20 years after they both trained and worked together in the G.J. Joe!
Almost got married in the miniseries. In the comics the only word Snakes ever uttered was Scarlett's name in the hospital room after the Baroness shot her in her head. Snakes' true story is so tragic, it's what made him an endearing character.
I never thought I'd say this but the 2 original live action G.I. Joe movies were better than Snake Eyes.
They may have been bad but they werent also saddled with identity politics on top of their badness lol
@@budgiecat2885 lol if you think identity politics make a bad movie then you clearly don’t know what makes a good film.
There’s a reason conservative movies always flop
The 1:6th scale snakeyes I had as a kid was a blond haired Caucasian dude with scars on his face. It was the sorta gas mask/ninja outfit mix with blue and black.
What is this? I've never heard of that one
Okay, the stuff in Vietnam sound a 1000 times more interesting then the crap we got stuck with. Why on earth did they chose this new garbage over that.
Because of identity politics and i guess "vietnam" can be abit of a tricky subject for Hollywood o explore.
@@RaikenXion that would be easily changed. Iraq, Afhganistan, etc.
For those complaining about the difficulty of making a real GI Joe movie even adapting the origin of Snake Eyes because of the Vietnam War is not excuse, you change the settings and even tell the story in flashbacks, let's not forget that the Joes history is mostly military and you can't forget that even the connection between some members of the Joes and Cobra makes it more interesting
@@diegoborges3716 LOL Really? That would be just as controversial if not more!
@@RaikenXion Obviously they would have had to update the backstory to a more recent war. Could have used Iraq or Afghanistan or even some remote mission in East Europe or Africa or whatever; even make up a war. The main points would still be addressed: Storm and Snake served together: Storm saved Snake's life, Snake returns home to find out from Hawk his family was just killed in a drunk driving accident, and thus Storm invites him to his uncle's estate in Japan.
I'm glad somebody paid my way n I didn't have to spend my $.
I sailed the open sea's and still wanted money back.
That bad huh
It's wasn't bad, but it wasn't the Snake-eyes that I grew up with since I am a Generation Xer myself. But there were a few things that was right but a lot was wrong. However if you went in as a comic fan you wouldn't have liked it much. It's the same as any other super hero movie. Leave your comic knowledge at the door or your feelings will be shattered not hurt.
Lucky you
God the mouth on the mask in the first film looked so stupid. I'm well aware it had a place technically because several of the toys/images showed just that, but it just looked foolish. I can only assume it was initially meant to show that the mask was just cloth as opposed to a helmet.
It's like a chip off the old block, of a power ranger helmet.
The thing is when the original Snake Eyes creator says the character's race shouldn't matter, it begs the question, well why change the race in the first place then?
So for every Snake Eyes except the original toy/cartoon I go by the look he is mostly given of a white guy with blood hair. In my mind the original toy/cartoon I think it is up for imagination. However if the cartoon did show him unmasked and I just forgot, then thats his look.
@@big_lolo_01 The original toy line had backstories on the back of each figure that depicted their bio. These were all written by Larry Hama who created the original G.I. Joe comics run. So in that sense, both the toy line's story and the Marvel Comics story were one and the same.
Its the 80s cartoon that deviated since the cartoon came out after the comic and toy line.
The 80's cartoon also never showed how Storm Shadow in the comics eventually joined the Joes and it never showed his or Snake Eyes origin story, so if you didn't read the comics back then you were clueless to it and you probably just assumed Storm Shadow was always evil and one of Cobra Commander's right hand men (despite that being the total opposite in the comics).
We should also note that the 80's cartoon despite not fully following the comics storyline, did take some of its aspects into consideration, so if you go off that, then you can assume that the backstory and likeness of Snake Eyes is still one and the same despite the cartoon just not showing it.
It is only until 2003 (not explained in this video) where things took a total different turn as Hasbro hired Devil's Due comic publishers who then hired Larry Hama, to completely reboot the comics run under them with the newer rebooted G.I. Joe Reloaded.
Then from there on you had other rebooted storylines as shown in this video: Sigma 6, Resolute, Rise of Cobra/Retaliation, Renegades (not shown in this video), Death Game, and Snake Eyes movie
Compared to the original Marvel Comics storyline, none of those stories come close so I dont see the need to keep rebooting the storyline.
If it didn’t matter they would not change him from a red headed Caucasian guy to an Asian /Asian looking guy. So, the race does matter to the ones who made this film. It is now in style to change the race of very famous Caucasian characters that are fictional and historical from white to non white. And its (now) never the other way around.
Since he was race changed and it is in style to do so, I didn’t want to see it. He was one of my favorite g..I.jie characters like: blowtorch, duke, quick kick, gung-ho, and others.
That is the same reason I don’t want to see other films and didn’t want to see the screen: Nick Fury; heimdall, Valkyrie, bbc Achilles, bbc Zeus , firestorm, breaker and ripcord from gijoe :rise of 🐍 cobra, Hercules, acquaman, new jimmy Olsen from supergirl, and others.
This race and sometimes sex changing of characters in tv and film needs to end. People now have lawyers, money and talent to create new characters without replacing, thereby killing longtime historical and fictional characters who happen to be of European decent.
@@rageoftheredphoenix Lmaooooooooo stop it please stop!
I'm in agreement but Snake-eyes was supposed to be a white man with blue eyes and face scars, but they changed it. It's why Ray Park was replaced
(Regarding the new movie)
How is the grandma going to forgive Snake Eye and not her Grandson? No wonder he joined Cobra.
Also why would Snake-Eye keep the name of the thing that killed his father?
Why did Storm Shadow’s family give everything to Snake Eye?
Also, Storm Shadow’s Chief of security, distrusted Snake Eye the most, but after 2 days, she’s breaking the rule of the family that took her in to save him from anacondas.
This movie had so many questions.
Pointless. That movie is just bad fan fiction lol
Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. Literally my 2 most favorite action figures when was a kid in 80s. Was so so excited when heard they were making a Snake Eyes origin movie. But I should had known in today’s film industry seems childhood hero’s and fantasy growing up with so much history and fan power behind them doesn’t mean anything to Hollywood and the powers to be. Just seems franchises that we grew up with that we all love and cherish over decades and decades just go to Hollywood to die and become something that no one recognizes, likes, or happy with. Just shame when my 5 children and all my nephews and nieces watch this movie they will wonder why the father/uncle etc.loved a character who was a criminal backstabbing scumbag like they make snake eyes seem to be in this movie. Don’t even care they changed him from a white blonde headed man to Asian man but to make him the total opposite in honor, character, determination, patriotic all while running around unmasked and speaking. Then another kicker the last 2 min of the movie he actually puts on a iconic suit and helmet we would all recognize. Funny the trailer had more of him in that uniform then the movie..
HOLLYWOOD WERE BELOVED FRANCHISES GO TO DIE!!!!
The 80s Marvel continuity is "My G.I.*Joe," but I can always hope new movies, comics, cartoons and toys could some day make the line stick with a younger generation.
SNAKE EYES VOICE & DEATHSTROKE EYE ALWAYS CHANGE ITS LOST IN EACH CONTINUITY
The new movie is just an excuse to flaunt the IP, without telling a consistent story. It gets so dumb near the end it wastes the grounded potential build up by Snake and StormShadow. It's very disappointing, it reeks of something like X Men Origins: Wolverine.
X-Men Origins: Wolverine bad?!?! Jesus...I didn't know it was possible... I can only assume that was Jackman fulfilling contractual obligations. I don't see him, or anyone for that matter, reading that script and thinking there's anything on those pages other than used toilet paper...
@@bradmerilic6848 it's a shame too.
Their contract required them to make so many movies ina certain time. They had to make something quick to keep the rights. Not unlike what was done with Fantastic Four and yes Wolverine
@@delstewart7003 Which F4? The Tim Story ones? The studio clusterfuck that was, shit...I can't even remember what they attempted to shorten it to...the one with so much talent NOBODY thought it could be bad and we were so so wrong, or the Richard Corman unfinished one that is a HUGE guilty pleasure of mine. When Johnny's big "Flame on!" sequence at the end of the movie happens and it ACTUALLY turns into a legit cartoon...oh man...that was a diamond turd if I've EVER seen one. OH! Man! And I'm just remembering the guy that played Doom absolutely couldn't act through the mask, so he overacted EVERYTHING with his hands to the umpteenth level! That thing had so bad it's good all over it. I even remember reading the Wizard article about that movie from back in the day!
Yeh i hope this movi bombs at box-office and does so poorly the studio then does'nt feel confident to go with a sequel. It's the only thing that can drum enough sense into these studios, when they loose money on a IP, just look at Sony and Ghostbusters.
Why cant they just stick to the Original story and there wont be so much complaining.
Because they can't they screwed up Episodes 7, 8, 9 of Star Wars where they had a backstory from the Comics, and all those Novels from the time Return of the Jedi Ended to now. They screwed up the Transformers live action movies. By throwing more and more Transformers into play that were not around at the beginning. They kept changing the character names. You have Buster from the Comic, Spike from the Cartoon and Sam from the Movies all with the same last name allegedly. They used Sparkplug for both the Comic and the animated TV Show. The original Ratchet and Iron Hide figures are seen in Issue 1 of the Comic look very different then the later versions. Transformers was a 4 issue limited series. Then was expanded on with the Dinobots, and Shockwave. The Dinobots were built by the Ark when Dinosaurs still roamed the earth that is much better then the way the Cartoon explained it. The 2 Live action Joe movies were messed up. First you have Dr. Mindbender who turns out to be Cobra Commander. Then you have the Baroness who Duke was dating. I don't get to this day why in the Cartoon Duke was the head of Gi Joe when it was really Hawk. I liked the way the Characters got introduced in the Comic better then the way they showed up in the Cartoon. The Origin of Serpentor in the Comic I thought was better then the Cartoon as well. Some of the Characters from the Comic would have been ideal for the Cartoon. Such as Dr. Venom and Kwinn the Mercenary. In the Movie they threw in all these characters made them from different ethnic groups, countries then they were from. plus Killing off Duke just to make a movie because the two actors did not get along was a BS move.
What? Like how he was originally a white male with blonde hair who had his face horribly scarred in a terrible helicopter accident while saving a woman who would have perished? Nah, gotta diversify these days
Fan boys will always complain 🙄. So all movies will suck and be rebooted in an attempt to please.
@@BrotherMag They're not complaining. They're just saying what all fans want. And it's not difficult. Just take the original material and transfer it to the big screen. True, some things may need to be updated because it may not work for a movie. But for the most part, don't change what we've all waited to see since we were kids because of an agenda or some other bullshit reason that's merely been a hot topic on twitter for 5 minutes. This is why most 're-imaginings' fail
@@furrybogard9724 You speak the truth brother, thank u.
0:04 that scream tho.... Lolololol
This was so worth watching 💪👍💪
Oh and thanks for using my artwork coloring on the right!
New SnakeEyes film is nothing like the source material. I don't think I'll be watching it. SnakeEyes was one of my favorite Joes. So was Bazooka.
I heard somewhere that they wanted to reboot the franchise so just about everything but their names will be different.
Hasbro and Mattel have gone off the deep end
Snake Eye is why i Watch G.I. Joe
The movie is a dumpster fire at best . I had such a hard time watching the cringe fest
They should have stuck to the original story! It makes the most sense getting shot in the face trying to get to the helicopter and he was left for dead where he was found by a rice farmer and trained with the farmers son who later became Storm Shadow. I had the original unedited comic but it was changed to were he was brought to the US as seen in this video. Snake Eyes lost his sight and most of his face hence why he never spoke again. It apparently had to be changed because the original back story seemed to violent and cringe at the time of release and somehow was forgotten in history.
Great video
You did not mention how Snake Eyes face became disfigured in a helicopter explosion in the ARAH comics.That incident is the whole reason he's mute, wears a mask, and they never show his face.
I really wish Resolute was continued. Great addition to the mythos
There has actually been a decent bit about Snake Eyes past and personality (though it was kind of read between the lines since he didn't do any talking) in the comic books and one of the cartoon series. Haven't seen the new movie yet but if it's like the old ones I'm not expecting to be all that impressed.
It's terrible, halfway i just turned it off. Garbage movie.
Sigma 6 snake-eyes was my child hood favorite I even had all the action figures at one time
I love this
Snake Eyes was & still is my favorite character 2nd is Scarlett also because she's a red head & I love red heads they're rare & unique.
Your favorite character as well as your second favorite happen to be an item in the comics for 20 years too. Pretty cool, right?
@@jocelynthom2904 Seriously? I didn't know that & here I thought Scarlett had the hots for Duke at least she did in the cartoon show & when Snakes Eyes returned with Timber after he was saved she ran & threw her arms around him.
I like the birth of the animated commercial to miniseries
I enjoyed this..
For a detailed review you skip some obvious facts from the get go, like Stalker doesn't meet him at the airport, HAWK does, it's right there on the page.
thx bro
The new movie is absolute garbage
I wish that SunBow would have animated the Marvel Comics.
Snake-Eyes was Caucasian??? He could be almost like Joe Armstrong (frome the movie, American Ninja).
Always has been. (until they done effed it up by turning him Asian, changing his origins, and made him a bad guy throughout the film. he’s Snake Eyes in name only.)
@@mattimusprimal637 why aren't more people up in arms about this?
@@TheEnigmaticBM39 ‘Cause normies (people who aren’t G.I. Joe fans) and critics don’t give an eff about source material, they just want to see a generic Ninja action flick that’s Snake Eyes in name only. This is the X-Men Origins: Wolverine of G.I. Joe films. (that totally effed up Deadpool)
@@mattimusprimal637 Well jokes on them this movie is bombing HARD!
First time to G.I. Joe? 😁
I’m a fan of snake eyes
nice
Your first words about how he isn’t ashamed to lose, is exactly why the film did not work out.
There is no confusion is Snakes-Eye’s origins. He is White, he was in a Vietnam with Stalker and Stormshadow. He was injured and disfigured in a helicopter crash. He was taken in by Storm Shadows clan. Starting in Marvel Comics #21 “Silent interlude” we see the connection of Snakeeyes and Stormshadow moving forward. It’s Hollywood and their boring ass movies 🎥 that confuses people lol. They have torpedoed G.I.Joe once more. I think that’s the last cinematic hit to the bow. Abandon ship.
You are missing a comic from around 1985. The series starts with the Vietnam storyline you showed. A few comics later it jumps forward in time. This next issue was super cool because it was heavier paper than usual, more vivid color, more pages and was totally silent. The pannels had no conversation bubbles. Snake Eyes in his iconic black uniform infiltrates a Cobra command center to free a Joe team member held captive. The team member turns out to be Scarlette. On the way out Snake Eyes has a fight with Storm Shadow. They battle a bit and Snake Eyes gives Storm Shadow a blow that makes him fall to his knees. Snake Eyes grabs a backpack jet glider and flys away with Scarlett. As they fly away it shows Snake Eyes having a torn sleeve and a tattoo under it. The last pannel is Storm Shadow standing and watching them fly away with a torn sleeve and the same tattoo.
Then the issue you showed of Snake Eyes taken in as a kid by the ninja clan happens.
Close. Snake-Eyes KNEW it was Scarlett and went against orders to get her out. Snakes got the torn sleeve in a fight with a Red Ninja just a few panels earlier and Stormy wasn't wearing sleeves, it was his forearm wrap that came undone. Snakes was a full grown man when he joined the ninjas.
@@Falcun21 True this took place in NYC and was the first time they fought under G.I. Joe and Cobra.
Silent Interlude.
You forgot G.I. Joe: Renegades. Shame on you, it had an entire episode that told his whole origin, and genesis of his rivalry with Storm Shadow, plus Snake Eyes was a main character throughout the series too!!
Forgot G.I. Joe Reloaded comic too.
(and G.I. Joe Transformers crossover lol)
I have a lot to say about this video and you are missing somethings. However I think it was a great video. So you went into so Retconing with Snake eyes, you left off GIJOE Renegades cartoon that was closet to the true origin of Marvel comics origin of Snakes eyes. I can go on and on and it. You left off the fact Jixn (Jyxn) and the fact she's the true heir of the Clan. Once IDW got their hands on GIJOE and Transformers I gave up on it. Anyway nice video. You missed the three stories of why Snakes Eyes doesn't talk.
1. MARVEL comic version 1. The Val of silence until he finds who killed his teacher.
2. The cartoon versions both Renegade and Resolute where his throat was seriously injured.
3. The IDW comic version that I don't personally remember.
Thanks again for the video and the Snakes Eyes movie was pretty damn good
Aside from Messing Up HAWK telling Snake eyes his family Died, this video was Good! Shame Paramount DIDN'T stick to Comics Cannon vs creating a whole new Back Story that all of us hated! It's obvious WHY they did that as to Not having to pay out any royalties or licensing to Marvel/IDW etc! Soooo glad I passed on the Snake Eyes Origins 2021 film!
There are many errors in this video. The sequencing used in the live action movies was wrong. Half of comic story was omitted and the rest had errors in it. No coverage at all on Renegades (which had a really good 2 part episode that was true to the comics).
No Reloaded either
I really liked the new movie.
eww!
You might have missed the g.i.joe renegade series
Gi Joe started as a toy line. In the toyline, snake eyes was recon special ops. And all classified. That was it. Sort of a mystery man soldier.
It wasnt until the comics did his backstory get created and they made him an "american ninja". Perfect marketing move and he was quickly the most popular joe character.
The cartoons ran with that story as well.
With the popularity of kungbfu and ninja films, it didn't take a genius to understand how to gain market share. Its no surprise snake eyes and storm shadow were the most popular and bottest selling toys in their lineup.
They even created a chinese character named quick kick who was a kung fu master.
So we can fight and bitch and moan about snake eyes's ethnicity but in the end, it was whatever the writers wanyed him to be. Why? Because the origunal toyline had him as classified and gave zero background info.
Personally, i don't care. In the new movie, hes haf white so now some of you know how asian americans feel when we get half white actors playing roles of asian ethnicity. Whats that line? "Get over it. Its only acting".
Y'all are right. Its just acting. Not a big deal.
I wonder when this channel will hire someone who is not dyslexic.
if Hollywood would just stick to the Marvel comic origin story then Gi joe fans would be drooling! Yo Joe 🪖
@naitethagr8 ??? You act like good storytelling would fall on non fans deaf ears? Non Joe fans dont like this new Snake Eyes movie regardless as seen in the plummeting box office sales and reviews. Shit story is shit story. Character motivations were garbage. Plus the shaky camerawork was terrible.
You are completely wrong here. Tommy/Storm Shadow had already trained with his family and was already a Ninja when He met Snake Eyes in Vietnam. He was just going back to join "the family business".
Destro’s last name is McCullen..not McMullen! The ninja clan is the Arashikage..not rashikage and Zartan is pronounced Zar-tan not Zartin…this video was littered with mispronunciations😩 and in Retaliation the joes were NOT killed in a “nuclear air strike”, if they were roadblock, flint and scarlet would have died from the fallout. It was just an air strike 😒
Facts
Because you messed with it there's only one origin and this movie is not it
I already know they didn't show his face getting ruined saying Scarlet I bet
Comics: Hawk told Snake-Eyes that his family died, not Stalker
Rise of Cobra: Destro's name is James McCullen not McMullen
Snake Eyes was the only reason why I like GI Joe
Snake Eyes
Storm Shadow
Firefly
Beachhead
Tunnel Rat
Scarlett
Cobra Commander
Baroness
Destro
Tomax & Xamot
top 10 faves in that order
I always wanted to join the Eric ashakay clan
How has no one yet commented on the narrator mispronunciation of nuclear.... not once, but twice?!
Only thing missing is IDW and Devils Due.
Not an origin video. More of an exposition of various snake-eye moments from various mediums.
It shouldn’t be that hard. Just make regular action movies & use Joe characters. Movies like Blackhawk Down, Sicario, Hurt Locker, Mission Impossible, Triple Frontier, Extraction, Bond Movies. It’s so many characters with various specialties that it won’t be hard to find some for every scenario.
you forgot about G.I Joes: Renegades
what about snake eyes from gi joe renegades????
Transformers vs G I Joe? G I Joe: Renegade?
G.I. Joe Reloaded
Yeah Know I was wondering if I should go see the movie. But this helped me to decide.
Your telling me snake eyes was originally a blonde…
He was always a blonde blue eyed Caucasian until 2021.
@@JVJ_2000 and they ultimately paid the price for changing that
The correct "origin" of Snake-Eyes is, naturally, subject to when one was introduced to the character and whichever version you like most. The new movie, which as been in development longer than I care to think about, is about as grounded and realistic as any of the others. Its worth noting that Snake-Eyes' distinct all-black outfit from the 1982 toy line wasn't how he was supposed to appear (he was supposed to be an all-camo paintjob), but was done as a way of saving money on the production costs. The fact it took off so wildly was an unexpected bonus.
Additionally, his ninja background was a case of ret-conning, a consequence of events in issue #21 of the "G.I. Joe" comic, originally published in March 1984, which also introduced Storm Shadow and his red-clad ninjas. The issue, titled "Silent Interlude", was completely with out dialogue or text boxes, and its last two panels showed the Arashikage tattoo on both Storm Shadow and Snake-Eyes's right forearms. The intended implication was that the pair were linked by some past association, which naturally led to the latter becoming a ninja where before he was simply a well-trained commando.
Regardless of whichever origin is the "correct" one, the character remains one of the most compelling (and at times complex) creations to come out of this franchise.
The Marvel Comic Origin story told a few issues after issue #21 made sense to me, You actually had Joes, Cobra, Innocent bystanders get killed in the Comics, Joes bandaged up, shot, etc. Rarely in the Cartoon did anyone get hurt Duke twice three times if you count the movie. The Cobra Commander Story is much better to me in the Comics also. Plus the whole creation of Cobra Island in the Cartoon it just magically appears. Silent Interlude was a tough issue. That was basically the same Mountain Fortress from the Cartoon.
@@MerensWorld Comics have the advantage of being able to draw a story out over several issues, thereby able to go into events with greater detail and allowing them to spend more time in exposition (without necessarily boring the reader). "Silent Interlude" was truly groundbreaking because Larry Hama's script and pencils told a multi-strand story solely through single-panel action, a feat I can't recall appearing elsewhere (or at least with equal power as Hama did a 'sequel' of a sort in "G.I. Joe Yearbook #3" and there was a silent issue early in the IDW 'rebirth' series).
Narrator kept calling destro MCMULLIN. It is MCCULLIN.
The movie was um, uh, ummm I'll be back.
the airstrike was not nuclear in retaliation.
Its Cobra, not THE Cobra.
Joe Armstrong is Snake Eyes
what about gi joe renegade
What's the name of Snake's sister?
snake eyes had crisis identity
I guess a lot of people hate it but I loved it. Ngl I thought it was awesome.
wtf
@@budgiecat2885 it’s something new. I thought it was really entertaining movie wise. Yeah it’s different from what we’ve seen before but it’s cool and interesting.
@@thesecond7355 Why cant they just recreate the original comic story which is the best
Sorry, but Destro's name is James McCullen Destro, not McMullen.
That movie was so disrespectful to long time GI Joe fans. Erase it from existence and try it again!
It's McCullen, not McMullen.
im looking forward to the lady j tv seris on amazon
Produced by the Cobra company? No thx.
@@phatmantv what do you mean?
@@yahnatanlevi6894 Amazon =Cobra
Bezos=Cobra Commander
Don't believe me. Research all the scandals that they have been reported on since the start of the pandemic.
@@phatmantv Do they (Amazon) secretly own Springfield New Jersey?
Growing up in the ’80s, I was more of a Transformers, Thundercats, He-Man, Voltron, and Silvershawks than a G.I. Joe fan. I never really knew who was who, especially between the two ninjas. So the origin in the comics is that Snake Eyes was a white guy who learn the ninja martial art skills. With all the SJW and Cancel Culture, the new Snake Eyes decided to use a mixed Asian dude to play the titular character, and the film is no better than all of its previous G.I. Joe live-action adaptation? Why filmmakers not have a great story first before making the damn movie?
You must be pist of what Kevin Smith did to masters of the universe
They're obsessed with shoving radical politics than making good storytelling and characters.
@@tammy6610
That shit was woke SJW trash.
Just like this idiotic movie, not canonical.
@naitethagr8 not in the og cartoons
@naitethagr8 They simply don't care about race-swapping or gender swapping to fit their radical agenda.
JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY IT-
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!
McMullen? Lol You McCullen?
Snake eyes 2021 is cringe as soon as your hear him yapping away
Would have been nice to give him the respect and appreciation he deserves.
Except they made him a complete useless jerk that deserved to die in an extremely shit movie.
Poor Tommy (Storm Shadow). Feel for you Bro. You were the true hero 🤘
👍🏿
only thing i liked about the movie was baroness other then that nothing
I'll take the story from the comic please! Don't like the new guy.
It was Col Hawk that came to Snake eyes in the comic. You even showed the panels. It wasn’t Staller. It was Stalker and Hawk who came to recruit Snake eyes. Also you mispronounced Hama… (Hah-mah) not (ham-ah) also the pronunciation of Arashikage and McCullen are totally wrong. 😂machines need phonetic spelling.
I rather they stick to the original snake eyes storyline than reboot snake eyes. It should be Ray Kim play the role not Henry Golding 🙄 🤦🏻♀️
It's actually Ray Park, not Ray Kim.