LIVE: 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe PHEV - First complete in-depth review!
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- The 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe Luxury PHEV is the future of family SUVs! For many drivers, most of their daily driving can be done on pure electricity, but you can still drive across the country using a blend of gasoline engine and electric motor. Owning one of these requires almost no compromises over a regular gasoline SUV, but you'll notice a massive savings in your fuel use!
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Hi from Québec ! We just bought the exact same vehicule and will get it in a few weeks. In the mean time we watch your excellent video to familiarized ourselves. Thanks for your complete and self made explanation of this outstanding suv !
Thanks for watching! I'll try to have a lot more on this vehicle in the future, as well as a lot of shorter videos explaining the features of various vehicles. Feel free to subscribe!
Excellent video! Thank you for the detailed descriptions and helping us make a decision!
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Thanks for the video, quite helpful, ordered mine this week
Thanks for watching!
I will be picking up mine today .. super excited !
Also just subscribed to your channel! :)
Thanks for subscribing! You're going to LOVE you new vehicle!
I think I like this car better then I do the Sorrento. We are an older couple and don't need 3rd row seats
You always make good detailed reviews. We appreciate you, thank you
Thanks for your kind words!
Good video Peter, I picked up my 2022 SantaFe PHEV SEL, in Albany NY on Wednesday. Drove 900 miles back to GA. Wow! Feel free to take some credit for my purchase. I have learned more accurate information on this channel than the Hyundai website or anywhere on CZcams.
About real world fuel mileage, US model does not have the same choices as the Canadian one. I found “smart “ mode to be the most fuel efficient. Even with the display showing 0 Battery the gauge always between 1/8 and 1/4. As you said this is a “true “ hybrid. And will go to full electric when ever the computer determines it is most efficient this is why the battery is never fully depleted. To anyone who has ever owned a Prius it works the same. But this is a 4500 pound all wheel drive SUV which is why I averaged 37 mpg on the trip home and not 50.
Thank you for helping me make my decision. Too bad Lia auto group got the commission and not you!! You made the sale.
Haha! Thanks for sharing your real-world experience! That's helpful as I haven't had as much time with this vehicle yet as I would like. As far as commissions, don't worry about it. Do me a favour and subscribe and watch the odd video, that's good enough for me! Thanks for watching!
@@BrantfordKia, I know it's not the least concern for you on the Commission bit and can relate to that status u're going through... coz what I've noticed, u're straight out & candid but there's a genuine passion with yr version and opinion you share with us when reviewing and it makes all the difference for an informative good purchase... keep going, ATB. ;)
@@dfllechner8876 I have a great job! Might as well share that enthusiasm! Thanks for watching!
Does the car slow down when the car in front of you slows down, even when you are not using cruise control? I love that feature in my Hyundai EV and I was wondering if Hyundai PHEVs do the same.
I love this car I could watch videos of it over and over. I want to see someone talk about the premium audio system on the best trim of it
I can do that the next time that we get one in our studio!
I was behind one Sunday, I couldn't find the Tuscan name anywhere!!!! I love the tail lights and front end.....
This video is of a Santa Fe, but yeah, the Tucson looks really sharp. I like what they've done with the vehicle, and as you say, especially the lighting!
Fantastic car will wait till it arrives in the Philippines. Well done Pete for the great 👍 video
Thanks for watching!
Hi Peter, this is Desmond from the Netherlands and I am following your reviews to sustain my DD and pursueing pretty much in advance, to decide from an informative, wise ownership from either the Hyundai or KIA.by January 2023. This PHEV Santa Fe is interesting indeed but not just yet a decisive YESsss.... coz, I'm out to switch my current PUG 5008 midsize SUV towards a full EV on the next SUV.
I've testdriven the Ioniq5 & EV6 GT Line and with that said, I want SIZE and an awesome convenience on safety most of all. Speed is not the forte for me at all, not anymore being a past courier myself so I know, speed is for the young lads still searching the thrill like Evel Knievel did, bless his soul.
I want comfy space for just myself, wife and two munchkin PUG critters. The other thing is, I'll be charging within my garage too like you still are doing the past two years. The way to go imho... and with Wintry temps, showing up, my garage flooring is entirely heated which helps maintain the comfy temps which is set for my Living room too @22 C the whole year round. The Daikin AC in the garage will kick-in when the temp hit past 25 C.
Being a Retiree since '86 to this day, I'm doing an average radius of abt 280 thru 480km once I hit the highway & on both ways hence, I'm home again b4 the 500km is clocked. This is what I see currently to be taking place and will like all my charging to be FOC naturally, through my 60x PVs (@315 Wp each) on the roof, a 5x tower-set of storage battery @15kWh each as reserve storage (totalling 75kWh) to complement as a standby servicing surplus on the auxiliary side esp when the Sun fails to show up fully. The normal energy power from the Grid is of course, always available and goes into auto default supply when every energy source thru the PVs gets drained which I don't anticipate occuring despite two heatpumps operating, for the home and outside in-ground pool.
I would like to know from yr angle, under Canadian conditions and when pulling over into any boondocks with a Full EV, whether it makes good sense tagging along a compact silent 5-liter Honda Generator to charge up a fully drained/depleted of energy SUV? This is only as a last call with no power supply for miles around ie. Lerv yr reviews shared. My Like was at 355 on this SF review.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Hi. I want to thank you for these videos. I live in Pittsburgh. Pa. Biught a PHEV Santa Fe. Had to go to Maryland for it. Your videos were very helpful comparing the Tucson vs Sante Fe. Bought a 2022 Limited. BELOW MSRP. great dealer in Maryland.
Wow! Below MSRP! Great job getting that deal! Good for you! Thanks for watching!
@@BrantfordKia 1 other random question. The OEM floor liners. Are they good as liners (like Weather tech that come up the sides) or are they more like floor mats that are flat?
Our new 2022 Hyundai santa fe phev odometer indicator is ON when the vehicle is turned off and charging. Is it suppose to? I also noticed a thin line at the top and bottom of the gauge panel on. Is that suppose to be on, with the vehicle off?
Thank you for you video. Could you tell me which kind of white it is? White cream? Thank you very much!!
Great info one question. Does the command star work while the PHEV is plugged in when its really cold like -50 C plus I don’t have a garage?
Hi, thanks for the information, greath and heĺpfull review. Looking it from the netherlands (Europa). I ordered mine in the same execution but with the congac leather 1 1/2 month ago. What is the avarage delivery time at the moment (approx)?
As someone who has been waiting for a RAV4 Prime for over 5 months now, I am very interested in trying this one out. Great review, I may be a Santa Fe PHEV owner soon!
Thanks for watching! I do think that a lot of people are going to find that this vehicle really suits their needs! They make a lot of sense!
Good luck with maintaining cost after the end of the warranty 🤣
I'm looking into the 2023 version of the Santa Fe PHEV. How do these vehicles calculate "milage" between the modes? EV/Hybrid/gas.
Why don't you get both charger cables we do in the uk.
Nice review Peter, will you be able to make a driver review - show how the EV mode behaves during city/hwy use and how far can you push it without starting engine?
I'm thinking about something like this, there are a lot of variables, but in normal weather, and normal conditions, the average driver will be able to drive on fully electric power with no issues. It's only when you REALLY need power, like having to accelerate faster than usual on a highway entrance ramp, that the gasoline engine would need to kick in. Normal driving, including getting onto the highway and driving at highway speeds can all be done on fully electric.
@@BrantfordKia I can confirm that accelerating quickly on to a highway ramp will start the engine, even with a full charge.... and it can take several minutes before the engine will shut down again.
@@audiosd8884 The engine running can depend on a lot of things. I was easily able to get on the highway without starting the engine, and things like climate settings can also determine when the engine turns off.
I charged mine yesterday for the first time it took 9 hours to get from 0 to 30 miles range. Grand children totally impressed with the window shades.
On the level one charger included with my Santa Fe PHEV, it takes about 12 hours for a full charge. It takes about 3.5 hours for a full charge using a level 2 charger. My full charge range is about 46 km. Note that the car will only accept a maximum of about 3.8 kW charge rate. While my level 2 charger can provide more than 7.2 kW charge.... I can only use 3.8 kW.
The 46 km is an average? Yesterday I started with full change 30 miles on dash computer. I drove from home 14 miles stopped, dash computer said I had 6 miles of electric range remaining. When I got ready to leave for home I checked again 6 miles of range remaining. I drove the same 14 miles home. Dash computer said I had 7 miles electric range remaining when I arrived home. The entire 28 miles I was using electric. We got back in the car drove 7 miles to a take away restaurant stayed in the drive through line for 12 minutes to get our ice cream cones the car finally went to the gasoline engine 3 miles into our way home. So that is 38 miles and over 1 hour of driving on 1 full charge. But it is not an average or what I expect get day to day. This drive had 2500 ft of elevation gain in the first 14 miles and the same downhill on the way home the trip get ice cream was more typical of normal driving. I have only had mine a few days, 1018 miles, about 1700 km, I am liking it so far.
Which level 2 charger did you get? Do you think it is worth the money? Is charging cheaper using 220 than the 110 charger? How long have you had your Santa Fe?
@@williamcosner5283 Congratulations on getting your new Santa Fe PHEV. We received ours in the first week of August after several months being on order and are very happy with our purchase although we haven't put as many miles on as we could have. Unfortunately, often, I have to use our old F250 which drinks gas like crazy. I mentioned above, that my electric mileage is about 46 km (about 29 mi) but that is based on the range information from the vehicle dash computer. I have not yet checked how accurate that information is. Sometime, I will. What I can say, anecdotally , is that the "mpg" is better at lower speeds (which is reflected in the EPA ratings) and my suspicion is that is due to the aerodynamic drag of the vehicle. If I stay in our local community, virtually all my driving is electric. If I travel to a neighbouring community, most is electric with the gasoline portion dependent on how far and how fast (how much highway) I drive. In addition, during the summer and early autumn, much more of my driving was electric only as the air conditioner (when needed) runs off electricity. In the last few weeks autumn has arrived with unseasonably cooler temperatures and with my liking of being warm, each drive starts with the engine running for a few minutes (with a 100% battery charge). Once the engine and cabin are warm, the engine shuts off but periodically runs to re-warm up.
One of the reasons that we bought a PHEV versus an EV is range anxiety. Last weekend, we made a longer trip, which probably could have been done totally on a fully charged EV. In any case, on this trip, I checked the various charging stations along the route to see if I could top up. I had no problem finding charging stations but they were all in use. I wasn't able to charge once on the trip and am sure glad that we had the gasoline backup.
Regarding the Level 2 charger, we purchased a JuiceBox 32. It was on sale and has wi-fi capability. It alerts me, once the car is finished charging and... the local electric utility is offering partial rebates and I wanted to get the rebate before the funding runs out. Is it worth it.... economically - questionable. Convenient - definitely yes. We can easily get a full charge overnight with the included Level 1 charger but it is convenient that if we do an errand in the morning, in the afternoon, we once again have a full charge. That said, I do have a concern about the number of charge/discharge cycles that I am putting on the battery and the possible reduction in life. 240V versus 120V... twice the power at the same current - so half the time charging. I am also lucky to have a 240V plug already in the garage. Our electric utility bills by the kWH, so no difference in electricity cost. Theoretically, 240V charging should be cheaper than 120V charging due to lower resistive losses in the wiring but I doubt that it would be significant here.
@@audiosd8884 thank you for the information. I have been waiting not so patiently for the Santa Fe and the Tucson PHEVs to make it to the US. Here they are only sold in 8 states in New England , California and Colorado . I went to a local dealer and looked at these two models in hybrid only no plugs. I liked the Santa Fe better so I found one and did the deal on line and on the phone. So far I am enjoying it. We decided on PHEV for the same reasons you mentioned. Infrastructure for charging is very scarce and Georgia has not made it a priority. I might have waited a year or 2 and gotten a full EV but needed the tax credit this year and you can’t roll it to next year. I think I won’t do the level 2 charger yet but when I do I will get one that goes up to 50 amps so when we get the full EV in a few years we will be ready.
Do you know if there is a Hyundai PHEV blog. I have a Kubota tractor and I learned a lot about it from people who posted about their experiences.
When I get a new toy I enjoy reading and talking to people with similar interests.
I like Peter’s videos because he seems genuinely excited about electric vehicles and he doesn’t bs.
@@williamcosner5283 Great to talk with you. Unfortunately, I don't know about a blog but would be interested in following one. It has been an interesting experience getting the PHEV. When I bought it, it was so new it was not in most databases... I received a temporary vehicle registration, it took several weeks for the financing to be realized and in our region... and "HOV Lane Electric Vehicle" stickers that are available to plug-in hybrids... could not be obtained for the Santa Fe - once again not in the database - it took a few weeks to get one - ohh but now that I have one.... very nice - I get to bypass a lot of "tunnel" traffic. Interesting to hear that you have a Kubota... I wanted to buy one but settled on a less expensive Kioti. Agreed, I like Peter... and for us north of the 49th parallel, it is very nice getting the Canadian model information - most of the data/news that we get is from the US and some of the features/accessories/etc. are not available here.
Charging lite indicator at charging port
Can you make a video comparing the 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe SE and 2022 Hyundai Tucson SE?
I'm not sure if I can compare them in the same video, but I can definitely do videos on both vehicles. Our trim lines are a little bit different here. I'm assuming that you're American, and we film in Canada. So some of the features per trim may be a little different.
I think I’m getting this car 🤔
Does a PHEV charge the battery when low the way a standard hybrid does? If you drive till the gas is very low, long drive, will the battery just run out or charge. I drive a niro and get 58-60 mpg with no heat or a/c.
Yes! Think of the PHEV as a regular hybrid that behaves the same as your Niro. The difference is that, when you plug the car in, it can run on FULLY EV power for up to 50 or so kilometres at a time.
you mentioned it has a driveshaft to the back. but i saw another video (maybe it was a 2021 phev?) where it said there was no driveshaft. so only electric in the rear. this is why you don't have the bump on the floor in the rear seats.
If it has AWD, It has a driveshaft to the rear. There is no PHEV in the Kia or Hyundai lineup that has only electric power on the rear axle.
Is there a way for the driver to adjust the regenerative braking? Can the driver change the following distance with the lane follow assist when the cruise control turned on?
So you're asking a couple different things here. As far as the regenerative braking, only our FULL EV's can adjust that. Now with your second question, I think you're speaking about two different things. The Lane Follow Assist helps keep you centred in the lane, but the Smart Cruise control CAN be adjusted to change the following distance between you and the car in front of you.
Very nice review. Hyundai products are so nice! Thanks for sharing! Not used to seeing such fancy cars on here...lol.
Not used to seeing such fancy cars? We cover every model in every trim! Sometimes that's a base model, sometimes an upper level.
Hi , Like the Hybrid. Can you go camping? In Cold or hot nights will the a/c or heat come on automatically to maintain the temperature setting 70 degrees. Thank you
These vehicles do work like the Hybrid models, but if you require heat especially, you can expect the engine to run at some point.
I bought this exact model a few months ago and its arriving at the end of the month. I'm purchasing some floor mats and wondering if the carpet in this vehicle is dark brown or black?
Thanks for all the in-depth reviews!
Ps. After talking about my purchase, my brother and dad both bought the Sorento PHEV!
Nice!! If I remember correctly, I think it's black. I feel like I would have remembered if it was different than that.
Great video but I do have a question. I was disappointed when I learned near the end of your presentation that the vehicle uses a 6 speed dual clutch transmission because I fear it's a DRY dual clutch design - perhaps the original. My understanding is that the non-hybrid versions of the Santa Fe use an 8 speed WET dual clutch. Might this 6 speed that you are talking about be a wet design also? I hope so.
I don't believe that it's a wet design. The only Wet-Clutch design that I'm aware of Kia/Hyundai using right now is on that 2.5 litre Turbo engine in various Kia and Hyundai vehicles. Having said that, it really doesn't concern me in this vehicle.
Took a little test drive in one yesterday. The tach only showed in sport and another mode, can't remember which one. Can the tach be set to displayed in all modes?
Yes! Great question. I've changed it on the Tucson hybrid, so I assume that it can also be changed in the settings on the Santa Fe Hybrid.
Not sure if you can help, but I really don't like the wheels. Can they be changed at time of purchase?
Anything can be changed, but the question is, at what cost? If you want aftermarket wheels that can be done, but I don't think a dealer will do a swap at no charge, so you'd have to talk to your selling dealer to see what can be worked out. We always try to be flexible, but there is only so much that we can do at no charge.
I am in the market for a family suv and car for my wife. This thing checks every box. But I am disappointed the big screen is not offered on the luxury model. If I could only suggest two changes it would be add the big screen! And change the headliner to black.
Yeah, I think they chose Wireless Android Auto and Wireless Apple CarPlay instead of the larger screen which doesn't offer those right now. Everything is a balance and they won't please everyone. I think you'll be happy with this, but I hear what you're saying.
What is the onboard charger rated at 3.3 KW or 3.8 KW and can it be software upgrade able to a high KW level, say 7.9 KW?
I don't have this information at hand right now. I'll have to dig into this in the future.
It’s a shame that these are hard to find on dealer lots and when they are dealers are adding a $3K premium to the MSRP, at least here in NJ. 😡
On the owners manual (for the Sorento PHEV, but most likely still very much applies to the Santa Fe), there are much more warnings than usual. Is that something to keep in mind? I even saw warnings in it that said no water in the truck so it doesn't spill on the battery, don't drive the car through half it's height of water, and such. Now I compared this to my Santa Fe (gas) warranty, and it does not have anything about any no drive through water. Not sure why. Should I beware?
Oh and in the same manual it also says: "Do not use an after-market battery charger to charge the hybrid battery. Doing so may result in death or serious injury." Wait so does this mean do not use any public chargers too?
I'm not overly concerned about the warnings. You can use a public charger safely for sure. Be aware of the warnings, but when it comes to using public charging stations, I have no concerns.
One more question.
The Santa Fe PHEV I test drove, had a spare tire under the vehicle. Do all of them have that spare tire?
I believe they do, but I can't promise that.
Got mine last week, driven 1100km still quarter tank of gas left :)
That's incredible! Thanks for sharing!
@@orenharris5204 i usually charge it everyday, it still comes on hev if you switch on the heating more often. I drive 50 km a day out of that only 8-9 km is hev. Super economical if you can charge at home or work.
@@orenharris5204 so the actual range on full charge ev is 47km, you cqn go upto a speed of 105 on that. Hev mode gives you an average of 6-7 per 100km. If you go 100km a day on 1 full charge you ll be able to go 1 way on electric and way back on hev.
@@orenharris5204 yes, hev is good for driving in cities or traffic. If you charge it daily and drain the ev battery first, you will get a total mileage of about 3l/100km. For hev 6-7l per 100km.
@@orenharris5204 you will love it. Congratulation in advance.
Would love to hear your comments about the cabin heater for this car. Seems as though the engine needs to be on for the heater to work my heater starts blowing cold air as soon as the engine shuts off even if just for a few seconds at a red light. I fear this means no "EV" only driving during the winter. How do you understand it to work? I may have a fault with mine!!
I know you mentioned this already in your video. Maybe you can't say any more. Anyway. So far for me with 12,000kms on the clock now I am averaging 5.4litres per 100kms!! Really not bad and that's with lots of highway driving.
I think the way that I like to advise people with this is to look at the mileage, not whether or not the engine is running or not. In the winter the manufacturer wants that engine to be warm to be ready to assist at any time. (Full power acceleration requires the engine to run) so if the engine doesn't have enough warmth to create heat, it isn't warm enough to be available. In the winter, let the engine run when it needs to, and appreciate that you're still getting phenomenal mileage. To those who don't want an engine to run at all, an EV might be best.
IMO Plugin Hybrids are underrated. Every Plugin Hybrid should have a range of 75K atleast. I Drive on EV mode in City and HEV on Highways. It is the best way to get good Mileage.
If your in EV mode only, does the gas engine turn on if you use the heater or AC?
Generally speaking, the gasoline engine will run a little more when you require heat. It doesn't require the gasoline engine to run nearly as much (or even at all?) with the AC on.
I do not see why you would buy the santa fe over tucson. In the uk santa-fe and sorento are both 7up in 2 3 2 config and tucson only comes in the short wheelbase version
Maybe tomorrow you can compare the Sorento PHEV to the Santa Fe PHEV
I don't know if I'll do that tomorrow, but I think this may be something that I'll try to compare. The higher ups don't love it when we put the two brands in the same video, but this is one where we have equal vehicles so it may make sense.
Hello I have a question I watched a video on this the other day and the commentator said that you can’t store the plug in and use it when you wish I believe this to be untrue. Please advise thanks in advance keep you the good work Peter
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. You can't store the plug in? Maybe you can write this a different way so that I can better understand?
@@BrantfordKia hi so you can get about 50kms on plug in along can you use that anytime.So drive 120 kms then get to a city and use the electric side
@@ashleyclark4310 Yes! If the vehicle is fully charged you can press a button to switch it from EV mode to HEV mode (Hybrid Electric Vehicle mode) and that will allow you to drive the vehicle as a hybrid, and save the pure electric range for a later time. When you want to switch to electric, you can press that button again which puts the car back into EV mode. Quick disclaimer, there are situations in EV mode where your engine could run, but to answer your question, yes, you can do exactly what you're talking about.
We’re is the spare tire
How long till we get to see the Sportage PHEV ?
Things could change at anytime, but I expect to see the Sportage in January, the hybrid around March, and the PHEV early Summer. That's my best guess right now.
So if I forget to charge my car it will only use hybrid mode?
Exactly.
With all this thecnology what his the guarantee program?
Check out the Hyundai website for their warranty information.
When do you expect the 2022 Tuson PHEV?
I haven't checked lately, but the feeling was that it would be here around December. I'll have to check again to see if that's changed.
Spare tire?
How does the cargo space compare to the Sorento with the 3rd row down?
Not as big as Sorento
I feel like it would be similar... but I'll have to get them side by side to be sure.
I intend to park it in a garage plugged in. When I remote start it in cold winter to heat the cabin - does the Internal Combustion Engine turn on ? Does it has heat pump ?
I have had my Santa Fe PHEV since early August (one of the first in Canada)... while you can cool your car inside the garage (the air conditioning is electric), do not remote start for heating in a garage as the car is warmed up using engine heat and the engine will start if heat is called for!!
I'm going to recommend that you never start it in a CLOSED garage. There are many situations that could cause the engine to start, cold weather is one of those conditions, but even in warmer temperatures, it "can" start the gas engine based on a number of factors. Sometimes it's more rare for the vehicle to start, but that doesn't mean that it will never start.
@@BrantfordKia I own the Santa Fe PHEV. When you want heat the engine comes on, but only long enough to heat the coolant to the temperature you selected on the heating controls. So if you are only diving in EV mode the engine will come on at idle speed for maybe 5 minutes if you selected 80 degrees. If you are driving in hybrid mode the engine will run at times and the coolant would already be very hot.
@@robert65755 Yes, that's my understanding of everything too. Thanks for sharing your real-life experience with this vehicle!
Do this model has front sonar sensors?
I don't remember off the top of my head, but I think this has sensors on the rear only.
I'm in no rush to buy a PHEV SUV but the Hyundai Kia family really are the only ones who have affordable versions. That said, any word if the New Sportage PHEV will come to Canada in 2022 as the 23' year model?
Yes! I expect the 2023 Sportage to show up around January, the Hybrid version around March, and the PHEV around the early summer months. Times good change, but that's just my expectation right now.
@@BrantfordKia great, thanks for the quick comment as always! I just can't bring myself to like the body lines on the Tucson so the new Sportage is worth waiting for in my case. Each to their own!
@@waveofthehandsWEAVER Yeah, that's something that I've heard before. I really like the Tucson, but you're right, they took a risk with the styling and it's not for everyone. As soon as I have reliable Sportage information, I'll make a video.
Very informative. This is a very helpful video.
I have a question. The US models (both Tuscon and Santa Fe PHEV) doesn't have mud/sand terrain modes in the dial. All that I see is snow. This is very weird why Hyundai did this so. Any idea on that? Does that mean the US spec models are not as capable as the non-US models? I think the hybrid versions seem to have all of these options available. Or, is this something to do with the chip shortage?
I don't know if this is true, but I have heard that it's a licensing issue in the United States that doesn't apply in Canada. I don't know if it's any less capable in the United States, but I would say that having that preset for the different terrains does allow for some more simple customization of the system in order to optimize it for certain terrains.
@@BrantfordKia Thank you
How reliable this car for someone working full-time and intending to charge from public outlet (I’m renting)? How often we need to charge and how long it takes to charge full battery? Sorry, I’m a beginner and has zero knowledge about PHEV
Those are great questions! We post these videos to see what people want to know about them, and we do our best to answer the questions! In short, hybrids as a class are among the most reliable vehicles on the road, and I would expect that PHEV’s will continue that tradition. They do an excellent job of managing the engine temperature, and they’re rarely driven hard because the electric motors assist the gasoline engine in typical driving. The average hybrid dies at very high mileage due to regular gasoline car issues, rather than battery or electric motor issues. You never “need” to charge these, but the more you do, the more you’ll save fuel. We have several customers who charge primarily at (free) charging stations at shopping malls and other charging stations. I’m writing you from home right now, and I don’t have the charge time information at hand, I’m guessing a bit, but I think it’s about 4 hours from empty to full. I may need to be corrected on that. I just don’t remember off the top of my head.
@@BrantfordKia thanks for explaining this. I’m looking to buy my first car and couldn’t make a decision whether to consider a PHEV or hybrid. Looks like regular gasoline or hybrid suits my lifestyle better. Thank you! You’re doing a great job by giving these information to public.
@@Cat-es9rq Thanks for watching!
Why is the Santa Fe PHEV only have an 3.3KW charger and the Tucson has a 7.2 built in charger?
I'm not sure if every spec is correct. The website says that it has a 67 litre fuel tank, but I'm pretty sure it's a 47 litre tank. If what you're saying is correct, then I'm not sure. As you know those aren't decisions that I would make. I haven't seen the Tucson PHEV yet, so as it shows up, I'll dig into it further.
@@BrantfordKia I charge at 3.8 kW and wish it could charge faster. And yes, the tank is only about 47 litres (and advised my local dealership).... I have filled it (albeit only once so far and I have about 3000 km on it).
@@audiosd8884 Thanks for your feedback!
@@audiosd8884 I pre-ordered a Tucson PHEV - When i received the "Build" notice and a promo for level 2 charger, I noticed that the Tucson will charge in 1 hour 45mins on level 2 - but the Santa Fe takes 3 hours 35 mins. So I looked further and looks like the Santa Fe only has 3.3kw onborad charger, and the Tucson has a 7.2kw onboard charger. Obviously level charging is the same on both.
My engine choice would be diesel or diesel+ hybrid
They don't offer diesel engines in North America.
I wanted the car to run the heat and a.c. while sleeping in the car, like the rav 4 has a mode that allows you to charge the car and have climate control on while charging the car.
You can't sleep in this with the heat on, the engine will eventually run. The alternative is, I've heard that Toyota's RAV4 Prime has some of the longest waits in the industry to acquire a vehicle. I've heard they're not talking months, but years..
@@BrantfordKia I live in NYC where cars are the hardest to come by. They have rav prime available but the price over msrp is ridiculous. With that said for the winter I can figure out attaching a small 150w heater with the battery fully charged. But I never thought about the summer when I got the car lol (tucson phev)
Does the main 13.8 kWh lithium-ion battery recharge the 12 volt battery that is located under the cargo floor when you are not using the engine?
I believe it does as the car is capable of going for LONG periods of time without charging the vehicle, but to be honest, I haven't looked into this yet.
How much does it cost for a full ev charge?
I've never done the math, there are online calculators to help you figure that out. From a practical perspective, having owned a full EV for a couple of years, I can tell you that it just becomes something that you don't even think of anymore. It's significantly less expensive than gasoline.
Why is it in Canada we don't have the bigger screen and the auto summons like Europe or even the states
I think Hyundai Canada just tries to give the best combination of features that they think will sell. It's a job that's impossible to get perfect for everyone.
@@BrantfordKia the thing is it bugs me paying over $50,000 for a vehicle that I know elsewhere in the world they have better options like honestly if I'm paying 50 Grand I don't mind paying two grand more just to get more options
@@ajhadman1462 The Tucson Ultimate has some of the features that you're talking about. Maybe that's a better vehicle for you?
Does it have a spare tire?
I don't remember seeing one, but my specs say that it does have one. In general, I trust those specs.
You should not be charging your car inside all manufacturers say charging should be done outside due to the possibility of charging runaway and fire and explosion.
mirrors on all cars should be rectangular
I don't thing we'll ever see that happen. Rectangles aren't all that aerodynamic, and a LOT of people select vehicles in a large part by style, and most people won't like the style.
Through these youtube videos I am getting a feeling that Santa Fe is overall a better quality SUV than Sorento but Santa fe is old looking with all the rounded edges and without 7 seater hybrid. Can you please convey to Hyundai to bring changes within its design of Santa fe and bring back 7 seater. Thanks
I wouldn't say that one is better quality than the other. I will agree that the styling is different and one may appeal to people differently than the other. I think we're going to see Hyundai move to front ends that are closer to the Tucson and Santa Cruz in the near future, so that could be something to look for in future model years.
@@BrantfordKia I ment the ride quality or, ride handling like attacking the curves with speed is a lot smoother on SantaFe than Sorento.
@@irfan6309 You think so eh? I would agree if you compared this Santa Fe to the previous generation Sorento, but the latest Sorento, I'm on the record as saying that it does some kind of magic carpet ride, where it does an excellent job of smoothing out the road irregularities. I'm not sure if I agree with you on that, but if that's your perception, I won't say you're wrong. It's just not my perception of how things are when I drive them back to back.
How much can it tow
It's rated for 2000 lbs.
Getting about 39,2 mpg in hybrid. Which is about 6mpg down to toyota highlander hybrid.
Shame toyota never made highlander phev like the rav4. It architecture will support it. .
Back to the santa fe. It a nice car. But tuscan matches it.
The toyota heat pump system mean you can drive ev and have heat something hyundia kai need to improve.
In very cold climate -10c the engine will need to be on all the time to keep warm.
Can this be charged with a level 3 charger? And if so how long would it take? Sorry I’m a little “green” to electrified vehicles. Pun completely intended
Haha! That's great! Also, this is a great question. At this point none of our PHEV models are able to charge using a level 3 charger. You will need to use a level 1 or 2 as there's no connection for a level 3.
@@BrantfordKia awesome thanks for the info! Great channel by the way.
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@@MsSupaflyguy Thanks for watching!
3min in and you haven't even started talking about the car you are reviewing :P
I mean, I do spend a lot of time talking about the vehicle. If you're not finding what you want in this video, I promise that I won't force you to watch it.
I really like the Hyundai Santa Fe But it is disappointing to see that there are key features missing on the top trim luxury model PHEV. Features that are available in other markets like Europe and Asia. For starters, no heads up display, no blind spot camera, no 360 camera. I mean we are close to 2022, I seriously don't understand why hyundai thinks that Canada doesn't deserve a 360 surround camera In a 50k suv. Seriously unhappy with the 360 camera not being provided in the luxury trim . I don't know about you guys, but I buy a car to keep it for at least 6 to 7 years. Not a big fan of leasing. So buying the hyundai santa fe now without these features will definitely make me regret my choice when I know that features were readily available in some other cars for maybe 56k or 57k. I checked out the kia sorento which has all of these features and more. Kia sorento phev sx has everything that's missing in santa fe phev Canada. And it also has better charging speed too. Hyundai, listen if you want my sale you need to provide me more features. I think Canada deserves more. I sent them an email on their website as a grievance. No replies.
I think the reality is at this point, with chip shortages and supply chain issues, we expect both Kia and Hyundai to sell every single PHEV that they can make. It's possible that Hyundai made a strategic decision to get vehicles with less content (fewer chips required) in order to sell more units overall? I would expect that as the market returns to a new normal, and Hyundai and Kia can begin to produce more vehicles again, that you'll see more trim levels, or more features on certain trim levels become available.
Around the 4:00 mark, using Jeep as an example, you tell us that not all PHEV's run the same when the plug-in range is gone.
Then you try to explain the difference: "Compared to Jeep's 4xe, we're better off running the -non 4xe- because the 'non 4xe'
gets better mileage than the 4xe. That's where Jeep & Hyundai are different".
So ok, they run differently. Why/how? Please expand exactly what you mean by "that's where Hyundai gets better mileage than the 4xe". Are you saying the 4xe will not run as
a hybrid, but Hyundai does? If so, why does the 4xe not run as a hybrid as does the Hyundai? It doesn't make sense for Jeep to be so flagrantly out tech-ed by Hyundai.
What exactly is this difference between the two?
I'm very interested in Jeep's USA 5th gen, '22 Grand Cherokee 4xe, but this 'less tech, less $$$' Santa Fe PHEV has my attention for now. I'm all eyes & ears.
I'll have the Santa Fe PHEV in the video again today at 2 o'clock live, but you can watch it later. I'll try to explain in that video.
@@BrantfordKia Thank you.
Wearing a Kia Logo while reviewing a Hyundai? Fire your wardrobe person! Ha Ha.
Hyundai ending is pronounced dae or day.
Yeah. 20 years of saying it the wrong way, and it's tough to switch when I'm live. There used to be ads for Hyundai in Canada saying it the wrong way like I did in this video, and it just seems to be one of those things that I have to think about to say correctly.
I almost did not buy the Santa Fe PHEV because it did not use a heat pump to produce heat. But look at this video of the owner of a Toyota rav4 prime trying to heat the vehicle czcams.com/video/CaonLB665HY/video.html and I am glad I purchased the Santa Fe PHEV
Go find a job guy 🤣
....its on the sticker!!!! LMAO Like the sticker fuel economy ever matches real life use. Gimme a break man.
Dude - chill. Its a standardized test to give an objective score that is useful for comparing different vehicles. "Real life use"? Whose real life? We all drive vehicles differently, in different climates and topologies - if your standard is that these scores give you "real life" results then you aren't a very critical thinker.
@@joemontana4370 oh great its to compare different vehicles not an expectation of an actual fuel economy you should be getting. Alrighty then.
I am not critical thinker? Oh wow we have an Einstein gracing me with his wisdom.
Within last few years the whole process of testing cars fuel economy was revamped as it was giving false info to the customers. This took place in North America and in Europe. Even the new rules are still off by sometimes 30 % in real life driving. Read how and where the tests are conducted and why rarely meet the real fuel consumption regardless or climate or topology.
@@robertduklus6555 Oh so this vehicle, since its a 2022, it must be using the revamped system, so why are you still critical of it?
Ok, so just to be clear. We reviewed the Kia Sorento PHEV about a week before we reviewed this. I quoted the stated fuel efficiency, but on that vehicle, we did not have the fuel efficiency rating for after the vehicle has used all of it's electric charge. On this vehicle, not only do I have that number, but it's actually on the sticker. I think it's useful information, and people were asking for that number a week ago on the Sorento PHEV. So when you say "Gimme a break man" I think it's fair that I ask for the same courtesy from you.
@@joemontana4370 I explained why. Even though the new system is better its still far from reflecting what users are getting in daily driving. Many automotive periodicals, especially in EU where people are more conscious of F E. did the tests and there is still high discrepancy.
Same with WLTP ratings, not achievable in majority of cases, even more off when the topography and temperature are brought in to equation.