POP GONE WRONG | Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (2024)
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- Pop Gone Wrong: Taylor Swift & The Tortured Poets Department. The superstar’s 11th album is a lukewarm, synthetic attempt at unhinged revenge in love & war, and it’s the final straw in my complicated appreciation for a musician too big to fail.
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“The Tortured Poets Department”
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Released: 4/19/24
Rating: 1.5/5
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Taylor Swift - “The Tortured Poets Department” Standard Tracklist
"Fortnight" (feat. Post Malone)
"The Tortured Poets Department"
"My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys"
"Down Bad"
"So Long, London"
"But Daddy I Love Him"
"Fresh Out the Slammer"
"Florida!!!" (feat. Florence + The Machine)
"Guilty as Sin?"
"Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?"
"I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)"
"LOML"
"I Can Do It With a Broken Heart"
"The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived"
"The Alchemy"
"Clara Bow" - Hudba
Taylor...NOW look what you just made me do
Tell me your thoughts on #TTPD, hope you enjoy this episode of Pop Gone Wrong 😜
Please don't kill each other (or me) Swifties
It seems like she isn't trying because she doesn't care. She is bored of making music and just wants the lifestyle.
TTPD is cool better than cowboy Carter
Anthology is better than Part 1
@@stormiesmith9742 did you see music video of Taylor swift ft post Malone
@@natymurillo2802 yeahhhh…
This is like when Green Day released a trilogy album and instead of 12-15 great songs we got 37 mediocre ones
Thank you! This is exactly what this album reminded me of, omg
As a fellow Taylor fan, I agree with everything you said. So disappointing. This was such a downgrade in my opinion. I always loved her lyricism, but some of these lyrics made me roll my eyes or laugh out loud. It's fine if other people disagree and honestly think it's a great album, but I'm tired of the Swifties who worship anything she does like she's a God who can do no wrong.
ttpd is dissapointing? wthflip 😂😂 don’t get me wrong i don’t really like some songs but its overall a really good album and it seems like she’s dominating the music industry
I like quite a bit of Taylor’s music but gosh I couldn’t get into this one either. My biggest critic is how boring it is, but also the lyrics. Every song just sounds like nothing, even the ones I sort of like. No one is going to be talking about any of these songs when they talk about her best ones.
@@ShiningStarlight-hj3fmseems she will always dominate the music industry, no matter how good or bad the album actually is. And yes I was personally not into it, but I'm glad you are. Music is subjective
@@ShiningStarlight-hj3fm "and it seems like she's dominating the music industry"
so let me guess, you're the type to tell yourself music is good because it's successful since you therefore think you're "supposed" to like it?
How we came from FOLKLORE AND EVERMORE to "charlie Puth should be a bigger artist"??? I quit.
My biggest problem is that every song sounds the same like I can't think of one song that stands out.
Except for wishing death on Kim Kardashian. That one went way too far. And I do not like Kim in the slightest. I don't wish death and I sure That's how it never put it in a song. That kind of karma literally one album after she talks about karma is her boyfriend. Karma is definitely this point looking like an ex-boyfriend.
There were a few that stood out sonically and, understandably, the only ones I enjoyed.
They all sound different to me maybe that's just me
@@marryweedjane a few in the first half stand out to me. I feel like I had to struggle through to get to the second half which does definitely feel more unique. I've seen people say it's a matter of who is producing and such.
@@emmikate The song wasn't Taylor wishing death on Kim, the song is about how she thanks Kim because Kim's disparaging actions that led to a public hate train during the time have helped her become the person she is today. The "wishing death" part referenced Taylor's mom being so furious at the angst Kim caused that she furiously exclaimed she wish Kim was dead.
Read a review saying this album is the result of Swift making an album because she CAN, not because she SHOULD. Yep, couldn’t agree more with that lol
I really hope that this isn't a trend that she keeps going on board with for her next few albums... I am deeply worried at this point, especially considering the money she is making and all of her fans
@@unoriginal4294I would totally recommend the second part of this album. It’s miles better than the first half
She made this album more for herself and less for the fans. This album is about her breaking up with her boyfriend of six years (no hate)
She needs to take a break for at least a couple years when the tour/re-recordings are done. Everyone not a hardcore Swiftie is TIRED
This!
I think I saw one of her fans warning her in a video essay that she could have another Reputation flop era in the midst of her peak, with all this hyperproductivity and success being a setback if she's not careful. I guess he was right, taytay's lyricism should have taken a backsit for a bit 😂. It's easy to get cocky during such a successful period, thinking that anything you can do now is something you should do, and that it will be genius.
YES!!! You think she would have learned this by now!
This!
Tired? No one is forcing you to listen to her music. 🤔
You can stop listening to her anytime and let Swifties enjoy more music from her.
Thank god, I thought I was the only one. This album did not land for me at all. Almost all the songs sound alike and most of them are filler. I would like Jack Antonoff to go away for a while. Also, don't care about her personal life, and I don't want to have to read a cheat sheet to get what she's singing about. I went back and listened to folklore today, and it's still phenomenal, but yeah, it's the beginning of the creative downward spiral.
Yeah that’s a great point. Her music is almost too self referential now that it feels like if you’re not into the lore then her stuff isn’t as good.
Folklore and Evermore look more and more like flukes.
I would also really like jck antonoff to go away! all the songs since folklore inc. re recordings sound so simailar with that soft percussion/production and take the bite out of the songs (may be aaron desners influence too) she needs a big change for the next album!
You can tell Joe Alwyn is an excellent writer cuz he contributed in Evermore and Folkere
@@MA-yc7pz Right???!
She comes across as super narcissistic in this album. Having such an uncaring attitude about your ex of 6 years is crazy. It’s entirely forgivable for singing like this about your flings at 25, but at 34 it is not.
I know everyone’s different and I don’t mean to judge but it’s crazy how fast she moved on from someone she wanted to marry and was with for nearly a decade. She was already in two relationships before the year ended.
I mean they could have emotionally detached themselves long before they technically broke up.🤷🏼♀️ happens in marriages all the time.
And to me it sounds like she’s still pretty sad about it. The Black Dog, So Long London, loml (I REFUSE to believe that song is about Matty Healy, idc what anyone says). Those songs were pretty sad.
And it wouldn’t be hard to believe she pushed a lot of feelings down or just out bc she was on a world tour and was expected to be up there smiling every weekend.
@@elise85391 loml is defo about Matty.
She barely mentions him. Maybe because this album isn't about him or she hasn't even processed it enough to write about it. Maybe because she knows he doesn't want to be talked about in public like that. We weren't there, trying to jugde her based on what you feel like is how she should react to her own breakup is weird.
L take tbh. There are so many examples of people losing love for each other in a relationship and naturally drifting apart, especially in long term relationships. Oftentimes, the breakdown of a situationship is more heartbreaking (for some people) because you've not explored the potential you could have had with that person, so you're constantly stuck thinking "what if" - with long term relationships, you've explored that potential and so for some people it's less jolting. You not understanding that people process relationships differently and that the heart doesn't really care whether you're 25 or 70 and for how long you've known a person says a lot about your emotional intelligence
Swifties saying that it’s not a commercial, it’s a “personal” album… yeah, I’m not sure about that:
It’s not meant to be commercial, eh? With all the vinyl variants? With all the TikTok campaigns? Making playlists feeding the rabid fans with their theories about a person with mental problems being a cheater (when the one who cheated emotionally was her)? With releasing the second half (with all the “limited/exclusive” edition tracks) couple of hours later, making hardcore swifties buy it AGAIN to get the full experience? It’s not a charity release, it’s made to boost sales and charts.
The mental gymnastics I swear to god…
It's pure delusions and insanity
every Taylor Swift album is personal to most Swifties, let's be real
...without pushing your comment aside though, yes this album and how it was released was atrocious
Shes playing their parasocial attachments like a fiddle and im afraid their too blind and lost to see it
@@sandygonsalves4646 finnaly thats what ive been saying i found someone who gets it its all psychology
She's through and through a capitalist, just like her stock broker dad.
I want to know if she's actually this petty, self-obsessed, immature person as presented in the lyrics here or if it's all just put on as a very smart business decision because she knows it makes her money. I don't know which option is worse.
God you’re so right and I hate that
I think it’s both tbh .. but that’s a good question lol
You'd have to wonder why she has had so many boyfriends. It can't be all them.
this is such a good way of putting it. couldn't put my finger on why i find her so unbearable
@@emmacovey6169 I actually really liked Folklore and Evermore, and I like her early albums too for what they are as fun teen pop. But Reputation really put me off with how vindictive and "poor me" it was. I thought with Folklore that she was maturing, and she's a very good storyteller when she's not totally focused on her own drama. But now it seems she's back on that train again so I'm out
She needs to TAKE A BREAK
FOR HER CREATIVITY FFS
Honestly, it's probably good to let another artist have a chance at winning awards, topping the charts, and getting some love in general.
Tortured Poets Department? More like Tortured Listeners Department
Ha! Gottem! 😂
Toilet Paper Department
Even just the title is to narcissistic for me.
The title is meant sarcastically. The term is used to mock the pretentiousness of a former partner in the title track
@christinavanbeek I genuinely believe that Taylor views herself as a poet though.
This album is a manic episode, and thank you for pointing out how much she’s punching down on Joe. She spends 31 tracks complaining about fame while bullying her ex for having depression?? Crazy!
I think only 2-3 tracks are about Joe. Most of these tracks are about Matty, which makes it even worse 😬
Wrongo
Most of the songs are not about Joe.
The fact most women I know worship her like Jesus makes me more depressed.
Kanye influenced Taylor for this one...
It's concerning that this is the only negative review I have found for this album online when every other review says that this is an "8/10" or "10/10", basically all of which sum up the album as "it was her most vulnerable and personal album yet"... that really worries me for some reason
This new taylor album as all her albums are is trash.
@@JacobTheMusicMan more power to you honestly
People are terrified of her, I’m not
@@ARTV- no one about you tho bud 😬
The are others who say that this album is not good at all
I think Taylor doesn't care anymore. She has her money. She has her fame. She has everything she needs in life. So she's coasting on autopilot. I think it will hurt her career in the longrun. She's reached the burnout point.
I can see why you would say that based on the latest album, but creating music is literally all she wants to do for the rest of her life, it’s truly her passion. I think all the money is just extra.
You cant say she doesnt care about the money when she owns a private jet
I think her ego is way too big not to care about success. She does, I believe she does. Music is her life. And she got so used to be always praised by the critics and mass public. She doesn't even have any side hustle to be passionate about. Like a make up brand or acting career.
I expect next album she would rumble about the backlash of the critics... The victim narrative needs to go on. 😂
@@JaclynGoetzYou can have a passion for music and still hit a dead end creatively. She is producing the same thing since Midnights. It’s like writing a story. Sometimes you’ll run out of storylines or ideas. When that happens it’s best to take a break so you can come up with something. If you force yourself to do it anyway when you’re burned out, chances are its not going to come out right..
Taylor needs a break but the issue is she’s the biggest star in the world, and taking a break means you are allowing for other people to take your spotlight. I can’t see Taylor taking any breaks at the moment.
I wouldn’t be surprised if at the moment all she cares about is being on top and all the money that comes with it. She reminds me of Drake in that way. It’s clear that she’s starting to value success over the quality of her music, and that’s worrying to me.
@@yewmon-te1odI don’t get how this all sounds like Midnights tho? The second half defidently is more Evermore than Midnights. And she hasn’t been able to write about Joe, Matty, or Travis before this so it’s technically new lyrical material. U know what I’m saying? What would u want her to write about?
Swifties gonna tar and feather you for this one
If we don't hear from him in awhile, we know he's been kidnapped and probably being tortured by a poet
There’s several reviews that trashed this album as well (Paste, Washington Post, Pitchfork) so the swifties have their hands full lmao.
To be fair they aren't going to know where to start as this album is being destroyed everywhere even on mainstream sites like NME.
No one cares about him enough to do that, who is he?
I am a Swftie - and I agree with him a 100 %! xD
I couldn't agree more with this review! As a Swiftie, I was so disappointed in this album. It feels rushed, unoriginal, and lazy. Half the tracks on the album sound almost exactly like previous songs she's written.
Where is the woman who wrote folklore and evermore? TPPD is so meh
I agree with every point made about how out of touch she is, but I don't think that's a very new complaint. I consider "folklore" and "evermore" to be her best works specifically because her writing isn't so focused on herself in those records.
That being said, I still think "reputation" is her worst album. That album, in my opinion, has all the same writing issues TTPD has, what with the out-of-touchness and clumsy cursing and all, but it's also musically her most baffling one. TTPD is "just" extremely boring.
Lastly, I want to touch on "The Anthology". I don't get why she insisted on releasing it attached to TTPD, because it's just a far superior album. Not that it's some sort of masterpiece or anything, but Dessner absolutely clears Antonoff in terms of production, and Taylor's lyrics, while still out of touch and far from her peak, are way less offensive than on the main release.
For me Red is her best, it gets points for experimentation
This album sounds like AI generated Taylor Swift music
That’s a good way to put it. It really does sound like an AI version of her
Yall are so devoid of analysis and thinking
@@reey2778 You have Melodrama in your profile pic you should know better if you're stanning one of the best albums in existence. Tortured Poets is nothing but mediocre and forgettable
AI generated fortnight is far better 😭
@@reey2778 Just because another person dislikes a work of art you like doesn't mean they lack sth. People can have different opinions and taste !!!
As an avid swiftie (not a crazy cult-like one I swear lol), a fan of the album, and a fan of you, I agree with your takes on all the commercialization, vinyl variants, etc. It gets to be a bit much. I agree there are some cringey lyrics on the album as well as some repetitive lyrics and themes , but I do think there is some AMAZING lyrics as well. loml is my favorite and is possibly one of the best Taylor Swift songs I've ever heard, it's so beautiful lyrically in my opinion.
One thing I think about this album that is different from her others is I think it was not entirely meant to be popular or for her fans or anything like that. I think she just had some things she wanted to get off her chest and share with the world, without caring so much about how the album performs or how well it meshes together. That's why it may be messy at parts, but there's beauty in some of the mess. Is it my favorite album of hers? No. But is it a bad album? I don't think so. But that's just my opinion and I respect yours as well!
loml? there really is a song called that. it seems to juxterpose love of my life with loss of my life. I suppose it is questionable senitment. I don't think I have said that to anyone. What would be a good declaration of love, that is the question?
@@rosehip5101 if you listen to the song, that's exactly the point
@@sarahgawlak6306 What should I say to my beloved oh wise one?
It’s hard to say she realeased an album that “wasn’t meant to be popular”, when there was a literal iheartradio streaming party of the ALL of the album on ALL of their stations. That’s a very typical commercial push.
@@whatgetsonmytits Fair point. I guess I mean more of like she's still going to promote it because she's proud of her work (and probably wants to make money off it I'm sure), but cares less so about people's reaction to it.
Until the past year or so I never really felt one way or the other about Taylor but my god it's gotten to a point where if I never heard her name again I would be happier. The amount of meme pages etc. I've unfollowed because they insist on forcefeeding her down everyone's throats is stupidly high
I get it man, it’s unreal and almost inescapable
She's becoming over-saturated and people are getting Swift fatigue.
Have you ever noticed how Taylor's music gets progressively worse the more she ties it to her celebrity drama and trending news?
It MAY just be a coincidence, but I wonder if there MIGHT BE a causation there. 🤔
This is a pop trend in general.
And she knows by now that her fans send death threats to people she hates, so that aspect of her songs concerns me.
She had to tweet her overzealous stans and tell them NOT to harass John Mayer...and some still said they would ignore her wishes and harass him anyway!
It really is a cult they're attacking any anymore who has any criticism on the album i never understood the appeal of Taylor Swift to be honest she's just another pop star to me
This was such a torturous listen… If this album is considered an “Artistic Masterpiece”, it really makes me wonder how serious Swifties are when they say things like they would buy an album of Taylor making random noises. When some of the AI-generated “leaks” sound better than the proper album, you know you’ve got a problem!
This whole album sounds like it was produced by AI... either that or everyone who were in the process of making this album were on autopilot mode
I think it’s clear that most Swifties are fans of the person and not her music. They mainly focus on the lyrics, which is fine but they also focus on the Easter eggs or what it’s about rather than how good it sounds. Or they might be in denial. I listened to all of Taylors albums and this is by far her most boring and least captivating.
@yewmon-te1od that's one thing I hate his how much Swifties look for easter eggs in everything, she takes a selfie they analyze the stitch of her clothes or how many fence posts are in it and what it might mean instead of just enjoying the damn music!
I feel extremely vindicated in the fact that she is the most overrated artist out right now. At her core, she is a decent hit maker who has a good ear for melodies. But ask her fans and she is a godlike deity who can do no wrong. Her fans have elevated her to a pedestal she doesnt deserve. And the fact that she is putting out such mediocrity while at her most relevant, i think that says a lot.
As a Taylor Swift enjoyer, she isn’t overrated by the general public, but she is by her fans. Most of the general public makes fun of her and her music, while a lot of her fans act like she’s God. I think her music is decent, but it’s not unique or different. Her writing style isn’t for everyone. It’s often on the nose and that can irk people. By how things are looking, no one is going to be calling her one of the best artists ever.
@@yewmon-te1od I agree. I like her music but at this point most of her "succes" is built off of people who follow her every move so that they can critisize her. People who love her and people who hate her stream her music and that's why she is doing the numbers. To me her appeal is that her music is very approachable. I like other artists too but her catalogue is so big and she delivers exactly what I expect from her over and over again. I listen to other, maybe more artistic albums once or twice but never revisit them because you have to be in a specific mood for it imo.
I totally agree with this take. Her appeal is not about her music but rather about all the lore that accompanies it. Even her big fans seem to enjoy the guessing games about her exes/current bf more than anything else.
in before all the swifties throw a shit fit because not everyone worships every single thing their 'mother' craps out 💀
I'm a swiftie and I agree with you. I think a lot of the reddit swifties don't like this either. Of course the toxic stans will worship everything she puts out. When i say toxic i'm talking like the people who send d**th threats to 10-year-ago exes or show up at jack's wedding uninvited
Real
@@lance_374 the Twitter discourse has been insane, they've turned the album into a full on meme a la Morbius/Madame Web 🤣
The AOTY rating distribution was unreal (and still kind of is). It started off looking like the letter E thanks to bot accounts mindlessly dropping both 100's and 0's instead of sharing their honest thoughts 🥴. Rob had to delete so many bot accounts too (I don't know how he does it all by himself every single time this happens). Most of the actual reviews are around a 5/10.
Omg I saw a swiftie say Beyoncé is behind all this
Part of the reason I struggle to listen to post Evermore Taylor is that she drops too many versions. I get that it makes her money because her fans eat it up, but from an outsider, it’s overwhelming and a bit disturbing how she’s taking advantage of her fans, but her fanbase is like a cult, which is in itself also disturbing.
Evermore and Folklore were her last good albums.
You're a brave boy, Jon
Both for talking about your mental health journey and reviewing this beast of an album. As a fellow autistic music lover myself, it's so satisfying to see someone like me make it big. Been watching you for nearly three years now. Keep up the great work
🖤
@@ARTV- Aw, thanks!
The problem for me wasn’t even having elements of her life and complaining. It was about the bad lyrics. I was expecting poetry!
It was like an 8 year old so proud of their first haiku
the fuck?!?
It's dissappointing because I became a fan during the Folklore/Evermore era and idk I expected the same depth from midnights and ttdp but they just don't measure up.
Have you ever been disappointed when someone you love and admire goes down a bad path? That's how I feel about Taylor right now. I hope it's not the beginning of the end
Sorry sweets. She's headed straight for Jlo level of ego and irrelevance ❤
I feel this comment so hard! Same!
she probably just needs a break, which I hope she takes soon because I know she can write so much better :(
Disappointed? Why? You that invested in her?
😂😂😂😂@@melissaelliott2966
T. Swift enjoyer here. Album is mid as hell.
Totally respect your decision to not review the anthology. However, I‘m super curious - which songs on it do you like?
You literally speak what’s on my mind! I’m a Taylor swift fan, bought albums and faved 100+ songs of her on Spotify. I listened to the deluxe (anthology) album TWICE, and it was a painful. The first half is a disappointing white noice, and the second half is an aromatherapy white noise. I feel like she (and her team) just wants to get more money without caring about her fans 😢 (already super sad at the 1989 Taylor Version)
4:55 As a huge swiftie, yes, this is her worst album, but there’s no way she’s not noticing that this was a flop in terms of acclaim. Even her fans are turning on her for this record. With the eras tour break, and the feedback from this album, her next might be better and more ambitious. Or, more likely, when the heat dies down and she drops in popularity to a more stable level, she’ll become more creative because she’ll feel more free to do whatever she wants. Like folklore, since she thought Lover was her last shot at success.
I like Taylor Swift a lot but since Lover came out, I just feel like she is soulless. She has literally become everything that I thought she was in the beginning when all my tween friends loved her and the Jonas Bros and I was just barely tolerating it. I really miss country Taylor Swiss. I don't even like country as a genre that much. I don't hate it, injust don't go searching for it. But Taylor always sounded so genuine and now I just feel like she is a machine, just constantly pumping out content. I won't even call it music anymore. It's just something to release. Redecorating her old albums was genius and I really admired the idea behind doing that but adding all those Vault tracks on was too much. I literally felt like my ears were vomiting from eating too much at once too fast. And some of those songs were great too! It's just sad to see her turn into this. Taylor, I know you won't see this, but please please please SLOW the FUCK DOWN. I am actively avoiding this new album and I know it's only a matter of time before I give in. And this is coming from a fan of Reputation. Daddy I Love Him is literally the line that makes me hate the Little Mermaid.
Taylor Swift is truly the female equivalent of Kanye- they both desperately need someone to tell them “NO”
The 2009 VMAs were really a canon event for both of their lives
I hope it never gets to the same level with her
I watched her documentary on Netflix and when she was announcing Lover in the boardroom, everyone clapped and didn’t say anything when she announced that there were going to be 18 tracks on it. 18 TRACKS. No one warned her about it being too bloated or the fact that ME! wasn’t a good idea.
@@judgesaturn507well they obviously have their differences but the parallels in their ego and cult fanbases are pretty uncanny.
@@yewmon-te1odI watched an earlier documentary about her and she spent like half of it mentioning how desperate she is to have the general public believe she is a “good person”. At some point they even try to make it seem like her being openly pro-LGBT is a huge financial risk for her just because some of her fans are conservative, and she even needs to have an entire board meeting to discuss if the pros outweigh the cons. No, I’m not kidding, it’s just that insane!
I agree with just about everything that was said in this review... this definitely seems like the beginning of an era where Taylor Swift is creatively dry and only cares about the lifestyle and milking everyone's bank accounts. This album is a complete snoozefest and can get absolutely cringeworthy at times.
Honestly I thought the album was alright but everyone hyping it up as this classic I don’t get it, the lyrics are laughable and most of the songs fall in line with what she usually does, I get it it’s Taylor swift but people claim she’s this game changing artist and I don’t see her changing much, I did like the synth pop in the first half and post Malone so it’s 5/10
My MAAAAN!! Saying what We're all thinking. 20 variants to get all the songs. Lol Talk about taking advantage of your fans.. if you're going to come out with a double album, put all the songs on the album. It's a joke at this point.
This is a torture album at least High on Fire and My Dying Bride saved me
0/5 MEGA CRINGE 2024 WORST ALBUM OF YEAR CONTENDER NEXT TO DUST BOLT
Honestly very much agree. Glad to see I'm not the only one
All I can say is, “Thank You Taylor Swift,” for keeping the people at the front of those RSD lines occupied while I swerve my way to what matters most to me. I’m no fan, but I sure do appreciate how she has acted as a gateway of sorts for current and new generations of physical media collectors. A lot of independent record stores are probably still alive because of her. You all better hope she doesn’t drop too far off.
11:04 that song was far better than the entirety of the Tortured Eardrums Department Anthology.
I like Taylor Swift; I adore Evermore. However, whist there are about three songs I’ve replayed from TTPD, the others sound soooooo similar to each other. They blend into each other way too much. I don’t think it’s terrible though.
Well regardless This record is probably gonna chart Number 1 on the billboards anyway for a longer time than she and Matty Healy were together in their relationship.
(Somebody smelling a forest fire in the distance?)
As a listener for years she needs a break before everyone starts hating her
Too late, it's already started
Yeah too late. Lol
I think this is pre meditated honestly, because people is starting to hate her, and the next re recording is Reputation, when her public persona was at her lowest, and she is getting again to that level. I’m sure she is writing songs now for the re recording, and will make them pass as they were written years ago.
Some always have
@@alexanderamaya6977this🎯when the recordings dropped ESPECIALLY for 1989 tv the songs felt like her writing style today with an upbeat tempo behind it
i feel like this album got 1 BILLION streams in 1 WEEKis not because its genuinely good but because she's taaylor swift
Waiting for the ARTV Twitter cancellation after this one. (For the record I agree with you)
Thank god I don’t use that wasteland of an app anymore
It's like, she just released anti-hero
which honestly, felt like an attempt to subvert criticism about dating Matty Healy and her jet emissions.
It’s so bad it’s honestly embarrassing. Also I’m sorry for the hellfire coming upon you from the swifties after this review. I hope you survive I believe in you.
FINALLY SOMETHING WE CAN AGREE ON
(yes, i am a swiftie)
I cant believe i waited till the last second for the album to drop.. only to be disappointed after the first track.. my friend said they all sound the same and i couldnt agree more..
Get your riot shields, battle vests, and armor, folks. It’s gonna get wild in this comment section.
All jokes aside, it’s sad to know that this album is a major step down from Midnights.
As a Swiftie, I honestly feel guilty (as sin? lol jk) for not liking this new album cause all the fans seemed to love it. I just found it a bit borring. I did like some songs but it was kind of hard listening to it, specially The Anthology. It was just too much songs that sounded pretty much alike. I honestly wished she could've sticked to re-releasing her recordings specially cause her eras tour has nothing of the debut and wish she could release Reputation to get rid of the same outfit she wears for that era. She should've waited until she has all her albums to release this one. And tbh I hate the hate fans were throwing at Joe, like dude he was depressed, give him a break
She needs to work with different producer or writers. I like the idea of loyalty, but she likes to experiment and try to experiment with different producers or writers. Lots of skips in this albums 😮💨😮💨
It’s definitely her most “human” album. She doesn’t really paint herself in the best light and I found it very compelling. I think that’s the point of it though, and a lot of people are missing the mark on that.
But the public already doesn't see her in a good light. Her fans will, no matter what.
@@Ari-jm6xx I mean… sure. She’s at the height of her career with the Eras tour, got her masters back & got 2 Grammys. Anyone who’s killing it will have fans and haters. My point is, she’s putting this album out at the height of her career where she doesn’t paint herself in the best light, and it’s a very interesting parallel.
The album still sounds flat and lifeless no matter what she’s trying to achieve with it.
I like almost all of her songs. On this album I only think two or three songs are decent, the rest is completely underwhelming and forgettable.
If I cut down the album into the best 12-15 tracks (mostly deluxe songs) it’s actually pretty good. My biggest issue is there is no innovation here. I can appreciate her brutal honesty at points, but it’s still not very interesting. She desperately needs to take a break and get Jack out of the studio. The best moments by far are the cuts with Aaron.
The deluxe tracks are so boring I fell asleep twice. Every deluxe song sounds the same as the last imo.
Yeah, she and Aaron make the best music together
From the outside looking in, Taylor trying too hard to be edgy.
Yeah i agree, it doesn’t seem genuine.
Instrumentally she isn't edgy at all.
I honestly rate the album 8/10. The music in the album are so heartbreaking. But my problem with the album is the length, its too long to listen and some songs have the same lyrics.
Meh production with really bad and pointless lyrics, no riffs and no good songs! Edit :- I hated this shit
Damn that is a high score ..
I just really hope whatever she does that she works with a complete new team of writers and producers for whatever she does next cos her sound on this album is so stale
She needs to find someone else other than Jack Antonoff. Aaron can stay though.
I hope she goes back to producing with Max Martin and Shellback. They did her music good
@@MusicByJBAbsolutely Not. They wrote and produced some of the worst songs of taylor swift's career such as look what you made me do bad blood Shake it off Blank space And a whole lot More that im not going to say.
@@helpfulplaylists3933 you just named her biggest hits... Sounds like a good thing to me
@@helpfulplaylists3933OH YEAH THOSE ARE THE SHITTY ONES HUH?!
I think if the album had a different name more related to break ups or something, it would have a different perspective. From the name Tortured poets department, people genuinely expected poetry.
The beginning of this video... MY GOD you're so real for this! Having said that, there are levels of ick I experienced while listening to this album. Being so cold and disrespectful to Joe, all of the wet rat songs, the lack of self-reflection and accountability, clunky lyrics... We did not need to hear any of this.
The only two songs that I actually liked on this album were "Down Bad" and "Guilty as Sin?", but mainly because they both remind me of one of my best friends whom I've had a crush on for years
I randomly heard Florida yesterday on Amazon music as it was thrown in and I thought it was cool. Curios to listen to the rest of this train wreck thanks to you.
I only made it through the first three songs, and I haven’t even thought of listening to the rest. I don’t know, I just never bothered to finish the album because the first three songs felt like they blended and it felt the same to me.
I'm already not a Swiftie (never have been) and haven't even listened to the album. I don't plan to listen to it either. The way you talk about the lyrics (which I must agree with) makes her seem very immature and not willing to branch out of her comfort zone. She needs a break and time to realizee her own wrongdoings instead of blaming everybody else around her via her songs. Maybe then she may even realize that her fanbase is super cult-ish and are part of the problem for putting her on a pedestal and worshipping the ground she walks on no matter what she does.
I feel like this album does not paint a good picture of Taylor. Maybe it’s just me but I feel like a lot of the songs make her seem unlikable and a little immature. I really wish she’d make more albums like “Speak Now,” “folklore,” and “evermore”.
The only attention a billionaire should get is intense scrutiny from the IRS. Taylor can no longer offer any insight that even remotely reflects the lives of 99% of the world population
And yet there are thouthands of women on tiktok talking about how they relate to so many songs on the album. I listened to it with a friend and she related so much to MBOBHFT. There are so many lyrics on the album that reflect my life as well. Maybe you`'re just not the target audience but don't speak for everyone else.
I am a sucker for long albums and I am DISAPPOINTED in the anthology edition of this album so I agree with you on the review and I'll say it I rather listen to reputation and the deluxe edition of midnights but i like some songs on the album like the collabs with post malone and florence and the machine
Fellow Taylor fan here, this album was very mixed for me. There was a sharp, sassy midtempo pop album somewhere in all of this, but there's just so much shit to wade through I'm starting to wonder if I'm gonna get cholera.
I agree with you, Jon. I was listening to the album with my mom and all of the songs blended in with each other. My mom shut it off after about 30 minutes in; it was soooooooooo boring. 😴
To anyone wondering, William Bowery was the pen-name of Joe Alwyn.
Only a couple songs I liked. Disappointing. (I’m a fan)
if iwas as famous as taylor swift, i would be super depressed also. No tension and release, just flatline depression.
Just shows that she needs to work with the right producers
Yes!
It’s about Matty mostly. It must of been longer behind the scenes supply. Otherwise it’s just psycho to put so much energy into this guy, rather than Joe.
Joe’s songs were her best! I think he tried to help her down a more lyrical path.
And poor Joe. So shitty to write what she did publicly. Where is the respect. Making herself sound amazing as usually (despite covert humble pretence) what was his sin ?
He didn’t deserve that.
Shows how shallow and uncaring she truly is.
I really like Taylor Swift work, but this album is so boring
Love hearing your thoughts, even when they sometimes differ from mine! Thanks for another great video Jon!
Coming from someone who enjoys a good amount of Reputation and thinks Midnights was actually a solid pop album, this one didn't land with me at all. Only exception being The Prophecy.
I generally like Taylor and have been a casual fan of a lot of her music for about 10 years now. I think she is a good artist and songwriter at her core.
That being said, she isn't above constructive criticism. Neither is any other artist. I just don't know why many fans have to drum up so much hype around their favorite artists, portraing them as the best thing in music history, when music is so subjective. You can enjoy someone's work and have them be the best thing in your world, without the need for them to be the best thing in the entire world, if that makes sense? Not everyone is gonna share your opinion. It's ok to love this album or any other, while being respectful towards other people's critiques and music preferences.
This album was a slog and I wasn’t really a big fan of Midnights personally due to the flat production IMO and the lyrics being super corny and cringey, and TTPD feels like it doubles down on that, but I’ll give Midnights this, I was never bored. You’re right on her relying on the “Taylor Swift-ism” on this album to where it’s gotten predictable and uninspired at this point. And you compare this to like a watching a Marvel movie, but at least certain MCU movies, the best ones mainly, excite me or try to do something different and surprise me.
This album felt like the success and recent critical acclaim get into Taylor’s head like she can’t miss this time but no one is there to tell her to let her ego down a bit, especially with these very “Woah is me…” lyrics. She needs to get away from Jack Antonoff and work with someone else, but it seems unlikely at this point.
I once mentioned how another band's song was basically if the Power Rangers SPD incident on Twitter was made into an actual song in one of your comment sections (Wherever it is in CZcams's confusing layout.), Taylor Swift is like if the person who started it by judging said show by its cover before even watching it had a career in music and continued to write her performative activism into music.
You should have mention the gwt himback debacle, because that too is so sad
There is just no single person I want to hear about this much. At this point she could drop St Anger and it would break every record conceivable. At a certain point you have to wonder have a person can allow themselves to garner such a drastic amount of attention.
I admit I've never been a huge fan, but I didn't mind some of her early material. What really confirmed to me that this album is a dud was when my mother told me she thought it was boring, and I've never heard her say that about any of the other albums.
As a swiftie, I forgive you and I paritally agree- I did my part and stayed up till midnight to listen to the album. When I first listened to it, I was really taken aback because it felt like Repulaton Taylor's lyrics, which I hated, and Lover Taylor's synth and I did not enjoy it as much as Midnights. Taylor is at her best when she incorpeates her "folklore" lyrics, not when she tries to wrap heartbreak in a bow. I will say, I thought LOML, Florida!!! and So Long London were strong lyrically and felt more genuine. As a bleachers fan, I have no idea what is happening with Jack's producing because I felt like he did a weird job on his own album. When you have the time, I would check out some of the Deluxe songs, I think Taylor has an issue with picking songs, The Lakes is my favorite T.S song and its a bonus track- "Black Dog", "How did it end", are all solid. "thanK you amIEe" gives such speak now vibes. Thank you for your review :)
I'm a newer Swiftie -- I've always liked her, just not to this extent --- thanks to the Eras tour craze, the Eras tour movie (which I saw eight times in theaters), and just her being everywhere. She is incredible... but the reason she's incredible is because she always sounds so different. What other artist could do songs from Folklore, Lover, Fearless type albums in the same concert?
For years, I never ventured to far into her discography because I was convinced all the songs sounded the same, but she proved me HELLA wrong.. then she went came out with an album that represents the Taylor I was never really into.
10:23 To be fair, "Bad Blood" featuring Kendrick Lamar should be considered a crime against humanity.
Oh most definitely. It’s horrific.
I came back to this channel because I remember you praising Folklore at the time, and your reaction made me like the album! It was your take on The Last Great American Dynasty 💗 That did something major for me!!! As for TTPD, fair enough you don’t like it too much. Still glad I got to hear your take!
I had no idea she was even dropping a new album until I saw a Facebook meme the night before 😂 now that new Pearl Jam album on the other hand 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I think there’s at least 12 legitamately great songs on this album. And she just releases the rest so she can earn more money on streaming. Which is incredibly disappointing.
I wasn't crazy about it at first. But the more I listened and sat with it the last month the more it's growing on me. I think I would like but daddy I love him better if she didn't actually say but daddy I love him. Lol
The two best parallels to TS's career lately were def a MLM scheme and Marvel bombing everyone with 20 movies a year 😂
I hope she takes all this criticism to improve herself, 'cause I know she can do way better than this, and she has done it before. She just needs to take a break 'cause fr all of it sounds so forced and inauthentic.
I absolutely disagree with this is the downfall of Taylor artistically.
As a swiftie, I agree with the review. However this is the standard version. I treat the second half of the album has part 2. And this standard version as part 1. I really would recommend the second part as it’s almost like a cousin to folklore and evermore. Aaron is the main producer so there isn’t much mid synth pop.
I'm not a superfan or anything, but I've been an avid Swiftie for a minute and I just feel like every album she's released recently (new) hasn't been good. Midnights, in my opinion, inspired absolutely nothing special. I expect Taylor to be coming with a new sound that the genre hasn't heard before for the most part, or to so thoroughly make that sound in that genre her own that it's immediately classic the way folklore is to me. But Midnights felt like every other electropop bit, which wasn't awful but nothing standout, and TTPD the album without the anthology part all just sounds the same to me if we're being honest. The first two songs I especially can't stand. The Anthology is so much better and I wish she had released it separately because I don't want to hear a quarter of that album in my whole album listen-through. I would've much preferred a twin album. I just feel like her originality has maybe taken a hit, it's not the coolest that she's hyper obsessing over Matty Healy which was a blip in her whole timeline, and I also can't stand that occasionally she's throwing in TikTok one liner soundbites like "blah blah blah but I'm soo productive!!" on that one song. She has more in her locker, so I expect more. Would love to hear your thoughts on the Anthology part. I always really enjoy your videos, even though I don't normally agree with everything said (read: rep is my favorite album and I stand by it).
I’m not gonna lie I was not totally into it at first but wow did this album whiplash me. I went from generally liking it to being obsessed. I think this one is a grower or maybe just works for me! It will be in my rotation
It's impossible to be constantly creative and artistic. Your brain needs time to process and solidify ideas. If Taylors brain was an oven, she's trying to bake a cake every 2 minutes. Feeding her fans raw dough.
Compare that to Kendrick Lamar, who puts out an album every 3000 years. It's a long wait, but they are solid, artistic, and very creative albums.