Dodge 42RE / 44RE / A500 - Inspection
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- Learn what it takes to inspect the Dodge 42RE -44RE automatic transmission.
The best parts, tools, and techniques, will be null, and void, if damaged parts are used during a rebuild. That being said, a thorough inspection is the first step towards a successful rebuild.
This trans has numerous names and generations:
A904 (Chrysler 904, Dodge 904, Mopar 904, TF6, TorqFlite 6)
A500
40RH
42RE (42RH)
44RE (44RH)
Vehicles:
89-03 Dodge Dakota
98-00 Dodge Durango
89-01 Dodge Ram Pickup 150 / 1500
89-03 Dodge Ram Van B150 / B250
93-04 Jeep Grand Cherokee
96-98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.2 V8.
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By any chance are you guys going to be doing a video showing how to rebuild the 42RE? I love the videos, they are super informative and actually show what your talking about. Thanks
It's a definite possibility.
We strive to show more than most are willing to share (technical info, camera angles, etc).
The positive feedback is appreciated.
Thanks for dropping us a line.
Just about done with me first rebuild. 42rh 1995 Dakota. Shop rebuild cost more money than truck is worth. Good time to learn. I've been following a 7 year old video that is definitely a great help, but your inspection video was far more in-depth. Wish I had found it a month ago. Definitely do the rebuild video to help future "home rebuilders". Played and paused videos multiple times thru the rebuild. Life saver.
1st rebuild...right on!
The positive feedback, on the inspection video, is appreciated. Thanks for dropping us a line, Scott.
im getting ready to do one in an 89 dakota any advice appreciated
how much did the shop want to do it?
ive heard tranny shops mostly buy rebuilt trans from national companies now, and install it with a 3 year manufacturer warranty. this is why trans shops that rebuild them locally are closing shop. its cheaper to just buy a rebuilt engine from a national mega rebuilding operation, then to pay a rebuild tech . in my area of abt 125,000 people, theres only abt 3 shops that actually build them in house.
The shop wanted $2400 in the truck and $1800 out of it. Just put it in 2 weeks ago. 500 miles so far and running great. It's definitely a sense of accomplishment. Just take your time and reference a manual and videos as you go.
My husband love watching your videos. He says please do a rebuild on 42re!
Very cool!
Input received.
Thank you for leaving a comment. Much appreciated.
Please rebuild! I'm doing one of these right now my first automatic transmission and I could really use the help!
1st auto trans rebuild? Right on! We are excited for you.
We're currently making our way through a full rebuild series on TH400.
We would like to do a rebuild series on this Dodge transmission. Just not sure when we will get around to doing it.
I second this, I'm considering rebuilding my 42re, and it terrifies me.
Input received. Thank you.
we enjoy your video, You were explaining it so good and understanding specially
for E. second language people you did awesome job SIR. more power to you and us out here that you making these great video that, make it easier for us to follow and do a good job we thank for that SIR. HAPPY HOLIYDAYS. SALUTE.
Thank you.
Happy holidays to you, too.
How do you guys not have a show on TV yet so informative.
Do we know anyone that could help some fellars out with that sort of thing?
( @ Vice Grip Garage )
Thanks for dropping us a line, Kenny!
Great video! Thanks for the help.
Thanks for watching, and dropping us a line.
I did the GM conversion running GM sensor,
I agree perhaps you guys can become a TV show like Tool Time?
Really interested in a band adjustment video!!!
Noted. Thank you for sharing that.
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Very good video, very good quality. Please keep going guys. Thank you. Greetings from Scotland! When you gonna put this unit back together?
Scotland...right on!
Not sure, yet. It's a matter of us getting enough interest, and making the time to get it done. We're currently working on a TH400 build series. We're almost one with that one...if you're interested in seeing something get built.
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The positive feedback is appreciated.
Thanks for dropping us a line, Michal.
Edit:
I just remembered that you commented on the TH400 Build Series. My bad. ha
Lots of comments to respond to.
Thanks again, Michal.
Hello Southpaw!
Watching you guys whenever I can ☺️ Not enough time to do everything. World is spinning to fast and in every possible direction 😅
At least feels like it 💥🤔😉
this was informative. i will be rebuilding my 42re and np242 over the next month, enjoy the detail he explains. but.... what are the dimensions on that od spring compressor tool lol.
I'm so glad that you found the video worthwhile.
Andy really does a great job highlighting important details.
The OD spring compressor tool is a DIY build. It's a 4-inch outside diameter. Roughly 6.5 inches long.
I got this particular piece of pipe from a well driller. If you hit up a well driller, in your area, you might be able to land some "scrap" pipe, for free.
WARNING:
Per the video, that OD spring generates a LOT of force. I treat it like a bomb that's waiting to go off. You really gotta be careful when working with it, and around it. Not being hyper careful with this spring could result in serious injury/death.
If you don't have the tooling to safely get the OD section apart/together, you can always take this section of the trans to a transmission shop. I imagine they would be happy to help. As you saw in the video, it's something that can be done somewhat quickly.
Thanks for dropping us a line.
Wishing you all the best.
-Robert
Will you be doing a rebuild on this transmission? It would be great if you did. Maybe with as much upgrade as you can.
It's a definite possibility.
Noted. Thank you for your input.
Appreciate you watching, and dropping us a line.
Absolutely top notch content, thank you! I've got a 44re hums for a few seconds on startup after overnight sitting. It goes away quicker if i put it in neutral. Any ideas?
Also is there a link for donation for asking questions?
What you are describing sounds like a converter drain-back issue.
When the engine is running, the pump sends fluid throughout the trans. The Torque Converter is continuously fed oil. Under normal circumstances, it's completely filled with oil. However, internal transmission leaks can allow some oil to drain out of the converter, when the engine is off. This can happen when the vehicle is parked overnight....or parked for days on end.
It's not uncommon for these Dodge transmissions to experience converter drain-back.
It can be caused by a number of things. Worn out Manual Valve/bore (mostly an issue that affects diesel applications), worn out bushings (pump & stator), etc.
Goes way quicker in Neutral:
This is because the oil has a more direct route to feed the torque converter with the shifter in Neutral, on this particular transmission. With the shifter in Neutral, the converter gets filled faster.
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@@SouthpawAutoworks thank you very much for such a detailed response. im glad to donate
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Really appreciate you supporting the channel.
PLEASE do a build vid!!! thanks
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Hey Robert, I'm glad I found your channel I'll looking at all your vids, what do you use to lube the seals? Thanks.
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is a 42 rh the same as a 42 re? other than the TV cable for the hydraulic shift?
They're the same units, with some exceptions. The rotating assembly (shafts, drums, gears) are the same. However, the controls are different.
The "H" in the RH stands for hydraulic.
The "E" in RE stands for electronic.
H: Uses a governor (hydraulic device mounted on output shaft)(it detects road speed)(sends oil pressure to valve-body).
E: Uses a governor solenoid (mounted on VB)(sends oil pressure to VB....just the like old-school shaft-mounted governor).
And there's more to this...
OSS (Output Shaft Speed sensor) vs old-school speedo, transducer, temp sensor, etc.
Both RH and RE units use a TV cable.
@@SouthpawAutoworks awesome thanks!!!
Great job! I have a 99 ram 2500 Cummins. Good to know the issue with the overdrive housing. As of now it seems to be working fine. The only thing is the TCC has a tendency of going in/out around 45-60. I thought I had it fixed with a $30 wire off Ebay that connects to a wire on one of the three computers on the firewall. It is then grounded to a GOOD ground. I put it to the ground off the battery to the RH fender.
I believe mine is a 47RE
Thanks again!
PS is it possible to put the TCC on a switch?
I understand/recall that you've run the redundant ground for the PCM...which is a good practice.
Have you, by chance tried these other things:
1). Running a redundant ground from the battery ground to ground wire at TPS sensor?
2). Disconnecting alternator power wire (or fuse), and try driving it, and see if the problem goes away?
3). Check output speed sensor/wiring? It's the sensor located on the extension housing of the trans.
Note: The sensors are magnetic, and collect debris. Derbris on the internal end of the sensor can cause TCC issues.
To answer your question...
We imagine that it's possible to bypass the PCM, and manually control the TCC operation. However, we have not done this sort of thing. Imagine that the PCM will throw a check engine light when the TCC lockup solenoid is no longer present (voltage).
Hello please can you post reassemble the transmission
Input received. Thank you.
Where is part 3 reassembly of the 42re?
There is no build series, at this point in time.
Where are you guy's located at
Do a rebuild
Noted. Thank you.