It world be crazy if you can actually defeat Barnabas at this point and get unique skill set from him as reward (more damage for Odin sword + more effect for skills). I don't mind to skip the battle with him on top of the tower.
It's not possible, after a certain threshold his HP no longer goes down. You can see it when I use Tsunami. Actually happens with many story bosses, it's impossible to 1-Stagger KO them!
Bruh. Run that back. You were so close to defeat him. You completely shrunk that purple bar to zero, but he was counting down from 2. That just means that you would’ve actually been capable of unlocking another part of the story that was going to alter the ending of FFXVI. Keep going at it.
@@kevinkaslana9060 No way. That’s crazy. So it is locked by script. But that doesn’t mean that we are not seeing an opportunity to change the scripts when Square Enix gives updates even more expansions on to the game. There is still more to explore and I can’t wait for those changes to come. :)
Unforunately, they won't expand on FF XVI anymore. The Rising Tide was announced to be the last thing the game gets. But it _does_ give food for thought.
“Oh sorry, even though it’s new game plus, you still gotta follow the “script”, after all it’s canon” Really dumb that the purple bar wouldn’t deplete for this specific fight, but I did enjoy watching you literally obliterating him with a built setup! :0
Yeah, even with the crazy amount of damage you can do to Barnabas on this stage, you're literally FORCED to lose. It doesn't matter how good you are or what kind of ridiculous setup you have - the game _forces_ you to lose on this fight.
@@ziontea7045 I find that a bit redundant on _this_ fight in particular. Against any normal opponent, it'll say "so-and-so Bested / Defeated / Slain", but the goal of the Naldia Narrow defeats that exact reason. Instead, at the very end, it gives you "Clive Bested", which I personally find stupid. And I myself have broken his Iron Will Bar to 1%. Cop the fuck on, game...
idk how hard it could be to make an spinoff with all the newfound powers, like pulling out an "echo" from clive's ass likeall the story itself was a futuresight yet you get all the powers clive gets inthe main story including ultima's, you can have the power to stop wars without killing, and see what each character now alive would think and do about it, letting know even barnabas you beat ultima andgot his power, would they rebel against him?, would they body him and happyending? lol.
God watching Barnabas in battle makes me even more pissed off at how trash Odin actually is when you unlock him. Like sure, Zantetsuken is cool. But the Eikon depends only on Zantetsuken and all his moves are built around building it (quite slowly, I might add. Unless you're using the abilities on a group of enemies, Zan guage is ass against singular bosses or minibosses.)
Agreed! The Arm of Darkness moveset is incredibly barebones by itself and needs to be urgently expanded. Zantetsuken should be activated by holding the Feat button, not the attack button. Then Arm of Darkness has the room for things like Judgement Cut. It's literally there at 0:17! Clive should be able to use it with the correct timing and gain lots of Zan gauge in return.
@@Davick173 Judgement Cut is pretty similar to a Level 1 Zantetsuken; the animation is just a bit longer. I think move-wise, Arm of Darkness is fine. But what it needs to do is deal more raw damage. I had a concept for a reworked Odin where it'd deal extremely low Stagger damage, but Arm of Darkness and the other abilities would have extremely high raw damage.
I think the thought behind it was to make each lvl of Zant but I rather the abilities do more damage. I wish they improved Flare breath, Heavens cloud, Gungnir and the Ice skills too.
@@kwpineda5663 Yep, I never use these abilities anymore. Especially after Voice of God is a thing (whose concept I don't really like). Add Aerial Blast to the list, too
Stuff like this is why I hate Barbabas so much, he gets so many cutscene privileges it’s really annoying. He’s like a Gary Stu villain they really wanted to try and convince you that he’s really cool, but he is honestly just so lame.
classic situation where you DESTROY the boss in the fight but lose in the cutscene lmaooooo "clive bested". good ass fight. good ass video.
That thumbnail goes so hard, nice vid
I love how he left the ultima special for the end just to make sure to nuke the boss especially lol
1:14 holy crap that whole sequence was nuts... anime af bro
Disgustingly good man, great job 🔥🔥
It world be crazy if you can actually defeat Barnabas at this point and get unique skill set from him as reward (more damage for Odin sword + more effect for skills). I don't mind to skip the battle with him on top of the tower.
Has anyone gotten his red health down to zero before? I’ve seen people get his dps check bar down but not the red one
It's not possible, after a certain threshold his HP no longer goes down. You can see it when I use Tsunami.
Actually happens with many story bosses, it's impossible to 1-Stagger KO them!
There really should be alternate cutscenes at least. Make it rewarding to pass the DPS check and all
Bruh. Run that back. You were so close to defeat him. You completely shrunk that purple bar to zero, but he was counting down from 2.
That just means that you would’ve actually been capable of unlocking another part of the story that was going to alter the ending of FFXVI.
Keep going at it.
There IS no running that back. You're FORCED to lose that fight.
@@kevinkaslana9060 No way. That’s crazy. So it is locked by script. But that doesn’t mean that we are not seeing an opportunity to change the scripts when Square Enix gives updates even more expansions on to the game. There is still more to explore and I can’t wait for those changes to come. :)
Unforunately, they won't expand on FF XVI anymore. The Rising Tide was announced to be the last thing the game gets. But it _does_ give food for thought.
@@kevinkaslana9060 this entire convo has to be complete and utter satire, no way are yall this dense smh.
I was stating a point. What are you calling me dense for?
Beautiful.
How does the Ultima Eikon abilities fare against Odin in this boss fight? Are they useful or useless?
Proselytize is pretty much the best one all around! I chose Ultimate Demise to go full nuclear though
Shame there is no alternate cutscene or achievement for this.
“Oh sorry, even though it’s new game plus, you still gotta follow the “script”, after all it’s canon”
Really dumb that the purple bar wouldn’t deplete for this specific fight, but I did enjoy watching you literally obliterating him with a built setup! :0
That's bs his Iron bar was at zero....
Yeah, even with the crazy amount of damage you can do to Barnabas on this stage, you're literally FORCED to lose. It doesn't matter how good you are or what kind of ridiculous setup you have - the game _forces_ you to lose on this fight.
@@kevinkaslana9060 classic game logic 101: win in game ≠ win in story/cutscene
@@ziontea7045 I find that a bit redundant on _this_ fight in particular. Against any normal opponent, it'll say "so-and-so Bested / Defeated / Slain", but the goal of the Naldia Narrow defeats that exact reason. Instead, at the very end, it gives you "Clive Bested", which I personally find stupid. And I myself have broken his Iron Will Bar to 1%. Cop the fuck on, game...
DMC5 lets you kill the big bad every time you fight him before the finale, rolling credits every time.
This was disgusting. God damn broski
idk how hard it could be to make an spinoff with all the newfound powers, like pulling out an "echo" from clive's ass likeall the story itself was a futuresight yet you get all the powers clive gets inthe main story including ultima's, you can have the power to stop wars without killing, and see what each character now alive would think and do about it, letting know even barnabas you beat ultima andgot his power, would they rebel against him?, would they body him and happyending? lol.
God watching Barnabas in battle makes me even more pissed off at how trash Odin actually is when you unlock him. Like sure, Zantetsuken is cool. But the Eikon depends only on Zantetsuken and all his moves are built around building it (quite slowly, I might add. Unless you're using the abilities on a group of enemies, Zan guage is ass against singular bosses or minibosses.)
Agreed! The Arm of Darkness moveset is incredibly barebones by itself and needs to be urgently expanded.
Zantetsuken should be activated by holding the Feat button, not the attack button. Then Arm of Darkness has the room for things like Judgement Cut. It's literally there at 0:17! Clive should be able to use it with the correct timing and gain lots of Zan gauge in return.
@@Davick173 Judgement Cut is pretty similar to a Level 1 Zantetsuken; the animation is just a bit longer. I think move-wise, Arm of Darkness is fine. But what it needs to do is deal more raw damage. I had a concept for a reworked Odin where it'd deal extremely low Stagger damage, but Arm of Darkness and the other abilities would have extremely high raw damage.
I think the thought behind it was to make each lvl of Zant but I rather the abilities do more damage.
I wish they improved Flare breath, Heavens cloud, Gungnir and the Ice skills too.
@@JaxonElzingaYou can reach Lv 5 Zantetsuken by chaining Lightning Rod and Dancing Steel in just one combo.
@@kwpineda5663 Yep, I never use these abilities anymore. Especially after Voice of God is a thing (whose concept I don't really like). Add Aerial Blast to the list, too
Stuff like this is why I hate Barbabas so much, he gets so many cutscene privileges it’s really annoying. He’s like a Gary Stu villain they really wanted to try and convince you that he’s really cool, but he is honestly just so lame.