There are a number of ways for a guy to escape the infamous "friend zone". 1. Show an interest, in another girl who is considered "hot". Once your "friend" sees that you are diverting your interest toward someone else, then your sexual market value will increase, at least in her eyes. 2. Take up a hobby, such as Judo, a foreign language, Religion, or Aviation, If she sees that you a passionate about something, other than her, she will want to date you, just so you can transfer some of that passion on to her. 3. Go to Graduate School, get a masters degree in IT, and get a job at Google, making a six figure income. 4. Wait for about 10 yrs, when your "friend" is over 30 yrs old, a baby mama, with 4 kids, 90 pounds overweight, and working at Walmart for $15.00 / hour. Now, that she has no other options, she will be falling all over herself to go out with you, in a heartbeat. 5. Win the Lottery.
That or you just could really improve your skill of resourcefulness... put in the work to know what you want, and then learn where (outside of your phone) these types are most likely to be (hiking and backpacking the trails of Colorado Most Likely lol, and not being lazy on tik tok along with you), you'll find them. The problem is entitled / egotistical LAZINESS. You're not worth dating if you're not willing to do whatever it takes to find what you deem to be "worth dating".
No, don't do any of these things! Move on and enjoy life and meeting people, notice I said people and not women. Integrate yourself into your interests (mine are weightlifting, jiu-jitsu, and progressing on my teaching career) Leave this whole "social dating" on the back. These "rules" will only have you end up with a woman that's full of games and manipulations, it will increase the divorce rate and make you a statistic. Just move on and progress and make yourself the best version of yourself. In time, a woman that is totally into you will reveal herself to you. And she will make things very easy for you, non of these head games and "friendzone" BS rules. My opinion, if you're a high quality man with passion, a plan, and are a good man (a strong man who is a teacher, leader, and student) and are getting ignored, rejected, friendzone these women have revealed themselves to who they are. It's not you, it's actually their mindsets and the image they have of what a man is, the type they find attractive. Move on and seek your own happiness.
Best advice I’ve heard. Try to get the life you want and if you just be yourself, women are eventually gonna be interested and want you. That’s how it is
I'm betting that you're concentrating on work etc because your single? Trust me, nothing comes to you if you sit around waiting for life to happen! You have to meet people in order to meet her( the ONE!), What you suggest is a sure-fire way to be single and lonely all your life! I only read half your comment but recognised that you described what I did! Nobody gives it to you, you have to seek it! You won't find the one unless you meet the "non-ones"! Marni has helped me get laid more this year than the last decade! It's all about confidence and flirting! Cheers
Just step 1, I already had like 4 options online. I nolonger think about or chase women. Women literally ask me out and all I do is just selecting the best match for a month. Life is far too good when you are just enjoying yourself
This is all factual advice. Back in my dating days I was completely smitten with this one girl. I confessed my feelings and all that but was pretty much left in the friend zone. So after numerous attempts, I backed off. But when I started seeing other girls she got all interested again. Even called me up sobbing one day after she found out I had stayed the night at another girl's place. Maybe a few days after that would have been a good time to get her to go out on a date. But I decided to move on anyway. I'm not playing those games if I don't have to. My current wife never played those games and we have been happily married for 16 years now.
Similar experience. Confessed I wanted to be more than friends but she insisted on being friends even though she was the one who initiated contact first and made it obvious she liked me. Just straight up ghosted her and she tried saying hi to me once but I walked past her without saying anything. I watched her leave and said/did nothing. Found out through a friend of mine she was asking about me later, some straight bullshit honestly.
It's all games. When I was in high school I had a girl friend who I was infatuated with. We were really good friends, hung out all the time, and I asked her out a bunch and she always shot me down. One day, as a senior, I started dating a girl over the weekend. When I went to school Monday, I was telling my friends about her, and this girl overheard. Later in the day she gave me a letter telling me she was just about to ask me out cause she realized I was the one for her and it hurt her that I was seeing this other girl and she would wait for me forever. That relationship lasted 6 months and when it was over I went to her and told her and she said she changed her mind. We're both in our 40s now and we've never dated. Games. They're all games.
I had that too, except I didn't ask her out qhen the other relationship ended because I wouldn't wanna be with someone who blows my dms up like she did, she had her chance and didn't take it
Steps: 1. Semi-pullaway (flirt but don't ask her out yet) 2. Show your options (mention other girls; introduce her to other girls as a friend) 3. Social leadership (facilitate conversations) 4. Pseudo-date (casual 1:1 time, low investment) 5. Make a move (if she is flirting back). Go for a kiss ideally, or tell her you want to go on a "date" Hope this piqued your interest and got you to watch the whole video!
Most women tend to friend zone nice guys. And use them to fulfill their emotional needs. To not feel so lonely being single, until they get with the person who they actually want to be with. And then it turns out that the person who they actually want to be with is no good. There's no problem being friends before getting in a relationship with someone. But it's important to be clear with your intentions and not use the person. The same goes for men not just for women. Men who are only interested in a one night stand, and then lose interest.
yea girls don't even share my interest. They are always an investment that's really only worth it if you want to start a family. But feminism is making it worse.
To avoid being someone's emotional sponge "friend guy", just muster self discipline and tell that person you don't see them that way then WALK AWAY. There's plenty of people in the world and noone deserves having to yearn for the love of someone who keeps them at arms length all the time.
I love watching these as a girl and seeing what I think...all I will say is for step 2 please please watch yourself and don't be cringe in the way that you "show her your options" because if you seem like you're trying too hard and are posting cringey pics with girls on Instagram, and shit it's really weird! Also, as a girl, if I see other women involved with a guy I tend to pull away rather than be more interested because I don't like to waste energy fighting over a guy. And, if a woman wants you just because she's possessive and competitive, she will still stop valuing you over time once she has you. Having female friends and having the platonic approval of other women is actually really valuable in my eyes.
@@m.taylor7025 what she is talking about is women who are "possessive and competitive" these types of women, same as with us men, it's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase. So once she/he has the desired person .. the challenge is gone. People who are in it for the right reasons' who are mature enough emotionally & intelligently are the people you are talking about; they value things more, love deeper and grow strong bonds with time.
I agree. The advisers really need to start working hard on teaching women that the 'nice guy' is the one they really want. The one that truly cares and wants to see her smile. The guy they can trust and that it's ok to be both friends AND be in a relationship. Educate her that the good guy is the keeper and how to secure a chance at making great lifelong memories. It seems that social conditioning has made up some poopy rule that you cannot date friends. However, you can date a stranger you don't know or trust, waste time trying to make him a friend. Just to realize he's a jerk or whatever then end up hating him. Ladies forget all the tests and games. Go to your best mostly single guy friend and tell him that you are finally mature and you want to give him that chance he has been waiting on for years.
As much as I’d like a relationship I’m comfortable with being alone. And that pisses some women off. I dated this woman on and off. She got mad at me and then took off. Later she said I didn’t stop her. I said you wanted to go. You had your bags packed and everything. I don’t chase anyone. If you want to leave then go. I used to be needy. I used to not want to be alone. I had a marriage where I ended up being cheated on. She left me and married the other guy. It was devastating for a while. But I learned to enjoy being by myself. It’s actually liberating to not need people. I’m not antisocial though either. I’m not a complete asshole either. If I get into a relationship I do put effort into it.
You perfectly explained it well. I was in a similar boat where as a "nice guy" I got hurt for putting more into a previous relationship. I still do "work" when I find the right person but I love my alone time it's peaceful. HOpefully I find the day that will make me "spark" back in to the game!
One huge potential problem with these videos is I've noticed the tips can actually (indirectly mainly) be targeted towards the extrovert kinda guys who are after the diva kinda girls. And I think one damn important thing to remember is not all girls think like how this video implies the way they all think. And watching it makes me think, I can definitely use a few of these but mostly this stuff isn't for me. Not bcoz I think these tricks are beneath me but bcoz that's not who I am/ want to be and that's not the kinda girl I'm after. I mean not being the first to speak and lead and mingle with everyone won't exactly make you less of a man!
There are a number of ways for a guy to escape the infamous "friend zone". 1. Show an interest, in another girl who is considered "hot". Once your "friend" sees that you are diverting your interest toward someone else, then your sexual market value will increase, at least in her eyes. 2. Take up a hobby, such as Judo, a foreign language, Religion, or Aviation, If she sees that you a passionate about something, other than her, she will want to date you, just so you can transfer some of that passion on to her. 3. Go to Graduate School, get a masters degree in IT, and get a job at Google, making a six figure income. 4. Wait for about 10 yrs, when your "friend" is over 30 yrs old, a baby mama, with 4 kids, 90 pounds overweight, and working at Walmart for $15.00 / hour. Now, that she has no other options, she will be falling all over herself to go out with you, in a heartbeat. 5. Win the Lottery.
Marnie made me see things differently. What an amazing and caring woman. I am filled with hope for my future. Finally some compassion for guys who keep failing. Thank you!
All you have to do is ONE thing--be comfortable with yourself at all times!! Only YOU can do that!! (A confident dude who has personality and lets things flow will always attract somebody, somewhere--the universe will align when it is meant to align.) "Love is not a possession, it is a state of being" (Osho)
i know, i hate how these dating gurus complicate everything, ive heard worse such as get money, status or whatever to get a girl, that screams "IM NEEDY" which is and cant be sexy in the eyes of regular women. some might be attracted by that but usually are the ones extremely insecure and have plastic surgery to the point they look deformed which are not in the interest of most men.
Stop with the games. Men in the friend zone lack confidence. Period. Tell her how you feel. Be direct. If she responds to you then wonderful,if not move on. No games.
"Show her your other options" ... haha... good one. Assuming I have options to begin with, rather than all of them being just friends at best, acquaintances at worst.
I've watched a number of your videos and thoroughly enjoy them and your presentation of them. I can't take the time to read the thousands of comments you receive so I don't know if my input will be something new or if it's been mentioned before. It is dancing. I'm 73 now and have danced since I was about 26. I now do seven different dances. I was divorced when I was 29 and dancing turned out to be a goldmine in terms of meeting women. It was my ex that wanted us to take dance lessons so, in effect, it was she who gave me the goldmine. Because of dancing, I did really well with women from thirty-one through my fifties and a bit into my 60's. It turns out that dancing is a gateway to just about everything you advocate in your videos. Asking a woman to dance shows you've noticed her and if she accepts your invitation to dance you are now in a position to touch her, talk with her, let her test you, be a leader, and get to know her a bit and it gives her an opportunity to tell if you are someone she would like to know better, and they WILL let you know. If you see her out often, and you keep asking her for dances, over a short period of time she becomes very comfortable with you. Often times she'll come over and ask you to dance and perhaps introduce you to her girlfriends who also like to dance. Back in the day I was meeting probably 100 women per year through dancing. Some I dated and others I didn't, preferring to just know them as dance friends. All I'll say is that my sex life was not boring. I also managed to be in three longer term relationships, i.e. six years (12 years younger than I), two and a half years (22 years younger) and five years (25 years younger). So everything you are talking about, as a wing girl, is true. So guys, be your own man, be your best man, and lead the dance and everything else. If she doesn't like you leading then walk away. I've never remarried because I've chosen not to. I wanted to be married but divorce court was a real education and I'm a very good student. Even now, when I go out, women of all ages sometimes come over to me to compliment me on my dancing which gives me an excellent opportunity to ask them to dance and there are a lot of women who love to dance. Some guys would rather go out and buy a new $45K pickup thinking any woman would love to be seen it when all they really have to do is take a couple of dance lessons for a lot less money. Men and women do not think alike. Thank you for your content Marni!
If you attract a girl by pretending to be someone you're not, she won't love you. She will instead love the guy you are pretending to be. It sounds cliche, but just be yourself and be open to rejection. If a girl doesn't like you for who you are, then you've short-listed your candidates and are closer to finding someone who's actually your type.
Just want to add my own two cents. This is a great introduction video to the friend zone. But there is much more to it. Some guys fear the friend zone like the kiss of death and others can make it work for them. Here's how, or "Friend Zone Pro". 1. Don't fear the friend zone. Girls use it all the time and they will move you out of it quickly if you pass some basic tests. 2. Be absolutely certain she knows you fully accept the friend zone temporarily when you are placed in it. There is no getting out of it so embrace it. If she senses you are squirming you have already failed the first test. 3. Accept that if you are attempting to date far out of your league you are going to have to become a master of the friend zone and there is no way around it. 4. Don't confuse the friend zone with being a Barnacle. Fawning on someone who is actually trying to avoid you does not count. Have some self respect. If she does not want to have anything to do with you and is just too timid to tell you then move on. 5. Be able to detect the difference between the "Friend Zone" and the "Friend with Potential Zone" They may look the same but they are not. How do you know? She treats you with respect (see the host's other videos on this). She does not mind being alone with you. She does not cancel appointments last minute. She gets a little jealous if other women infringe on her time with you. 6. Understand why you are in the friend zone. The more intelligent a woman is the greater the chance she may wants to see how you treat her outside the bedroom. Also she may have experienced some recent turmoil. 7. This one is odd but trust me. It could actually be a good sign. Women will sometimes put a guy in the friend zone if they see serious long term potential. She may not want to risk giving you what you want too quickly and then losing you. Some women will play the long game when they find a keeper. 8. Accept some responsibility. If you are behaving immaturely or trying to move too fast, or don't have a job or a car, or don't take care of yourself, or exhibit clear signs of not being serious about your success, or seem unsure of yourself, or don't know how to dress yourself, or don't listen to what she says when she talks, or don't know what the inside of a gym looks like then you put yourself in the friend zone not her. Man up and fix the problems first. 9. Be aware that the friend zone could be your own invention. If the women in question is beautiful there is almost no chance she would be spending time with you at all unless there was at least some potential. Think about it. If she is smart and attractive she would not abide you as a friend if you were someone she would not want be seen with. Trust me, if you are her friend, you are checking off at least some of the boxes. 10. Understand how the friend zone works. Time can move slowly but when you are moved out it will happen suddenly, without warning and for no apparent reason. Just for the record, be aware the term "friend zone" is a male invention and not one women generally use in regard to someone they care about. Women require people to demonstrate respect, patience and ambition all the time before levelling them up and they don't consider this a cage with no key. Sorry, one more thing, if she is truly a prize and you are man enough to handle the friendship don't throw away a golden fishing rod just because you didn't get the fish.
You are showing the friend zone in a positive light, to not fear it nor hate it. It's so refreshing because most of the times it seems like a point of no return with our woman of interest. I really like your approach to this and I would like to receive your teachings if you don't mind. Please.
The one thing that trumps all of these things is non-compliance. The main reason guys get put in the friend zone is because they are too nice. Learn to tell a woman "no" from time to time. You'll notice how their perception of you changes. It shows you have confidence and balls. Two things women find irresistible.
There are a number of ways for a guy to escape the infamous "friend zone". 1. Show an interest, in another girl who is considered "hot". Once your "friend" sees that you are diverting your interest toward someone else, then your sexual market value will increase, at least in her eyes. 2. Take up a hobby, such as Judo, a foreign language, Religion, or Aviation, If she sees that you a passionate about something, other than her, she will want to date you, just so you can transfer some of that passion on to her. 3. Go to Graduate School, get a masters degree in IT, and get a job at Google, making a six figure income. 4. Wait for about 10 yrs, when your "friend" is over 30 yrs old, a baby mama, with 4 kids, 90 pounds overweight, and working at Walmart for $15.00 / hour. Now, that she has no other options, she will be falling all over herself to go out with you, in a heartbeat. 5. Win the Lottery.
Follow these 5 steps : 1. Instead of confessing your feelings, pull away (semi pull-away). 2. Show you have options with other girls. 3. Be a leader. 4. Pseudo date. 5. Make a move : offer a proper date. I just noticed that in some ways, without even thinking of what I was doing, I did this : I met that girl at the post office, where she was employed. I kid her a bit, ask if they make special rates for sudents (it's obvious I'm no more a student)... Then when I go she, she walks with to the main door. I'm a bit in a hurry but she says : "let's call each other for a coffee"... Ok... Phone number exchange and good bye. The next day I tell her "tonight I'll be out with friends" and ask if she wants to join us... She says ok... In fact I had no plan with friends but I call a couple of friends and finally we all were around the table. Is this kinda pseudo date ? Maybe... Then I take her to the taxi station... Little friendly kiss and good bye. Just before, she found 50 bucks on a sidewalk and insisted for giving them to me... :) I declined but she said it was for good luck. And finally 2 days later I offered a proper date which went perfectly. I make it short but I met a hot girl I know, a waitress in a bar I often visit, and she talked to me very friendly.. Kinda social proof + I have options ? Maybe.. Though I did nothing for it. Sometimes things naturally happen the rignt way;
Ok do you have anything for My wife going out at 1130 to meet an old friend of mine and not getting home till 2 or 3 am and she says nothings going on and he says the same thing
The best way to get out of a friendzone is to realize the woman is not capable to recognize a good man. You walk away and let her live her own lonely life with her cats. No bigger turn off than a friendzoning woman. Brrr....
I unfortunately lost my wife of many many years this year and one thing I am happy, out of a zillion, when looking back is that I never once had to play games when we were dating or have a strategy. She loved my expressiveness from the get go and I never had to worry that I was saying to much or showing too much interest because you know what? She loved that I expressed interest. The right woman will not have to be "played" and will completely like it when you show interest.
Dear Marnie I just felt it necessary to emphasize that flirting as flirting is not something that is predetermined adhering to certain steps to achieve the goal. The magic of flirting is the moment itself and how it goes depends on the individual and his ability to seize the moment and recognize the signs...🥂🥂👋
At 6:13 Marnie says that social leadership is a quality that turns women on too. Be the one who mingles with people. Be the first one who is willing to get playful in a group of people when the setting is more serious. Encourage others to share their thoughts and stories, and share your thoughts and stories freely. And own it
I had a platonic relationship with a girl. She never once made a pass at me. I never tried either. Then one day while visiting her, she was at work and she came home early to find her best friend and I getting freaky. That night she made a move on me. Women value things other women have shown interest.
In other words, they are spoiled children who suddenly notice someone else playing with a "toy" she never had any interest in before, and suddenly want to possess the toy herself and pulls all kinds of shenanigans to get the toy away from the other kid.
@@nathanmorgan3647 you said it… I may have thought it. But really, she is a nice woman. My wife and I are meeting up with her in March for a ski trip with friends. But she just turned 40 and recently confessed that she is afraid she will never get to have kids.
The way he put it into words and made it make sense and got thru to him and say it like/as it is to him was special. I liked it coz that's the way it (should) be.
I have been focusing on myself! Girls chase me! I always leave girls wanting more! I workout 6 days a week 💪! I notice the difference in my physique! I maintain my masculine frame! I stand my ground and don't let anyone walk all over me!
Yes, extra physical conditioning initially does get that reaction, and it can be really interesting actually. By the way clothes do matter for guys just like girls, if baggy cloths hide your male bust, they do not get that overcoming in warmth. So Marni says your physical attractiveness don't matter, but but when you are very obviously considerate built and your dressed showy, it is hard to not notice, people start calling you "bro" and girls look, but if you don't catch it and smile it don't go far but when you catch it, or they were not expecting it then it makes an obvious impression. Oh, note after they get used to you interact more than that first two times, it looses traction, so while their minds are thinking naughty, you have to move fast. Honestly, it is fun and when dudes are also saying "holey crap" when you walk in the door, you know those gains are on. I am a short guy and I am not very wide. 29" waist, 30" hips, 36" chest and 37-38 glutes 5'4" tall - reason I mention is the response for me is different than for the Big Bear Guy, and I am always very warm so shorts an tank top in 60degree weather gets attention and smirks, I am thinking attention is probably just attributed to being like a neon and brightly outshining to ordinary, honestly cute clothes help! I think....
Wow Steve, so why watch this video in the first place if you're having no trouble? I watched it 2 weeks ago due to a girl who I told I liked moving in on my best friend instead, but then I felt really petty and pathetic and decided to move on, and then just this week I found a girl and it's going quite well so far. So why'd you watch this Steve, for shits and giggles?
Unfortunately working out won’t make your face any better looking and won’t make you grow any taller. If your short, have an ugly face or bald then it’s over for you
@@FlappyBellyactually i wrote this without watching the video. Now i did and these are kinda valid options. Not 100% but could work. Definitely better than simping.
Solid and clearly articulated. Better than another vid about escaping the friend zone. I was talking to my friends about a foxy French girl who was flirting with me. One of my friends who is a hottie herself asked facetiously, Is she hotter than me? There was a pregnant pause, then I said, She was pretty effin’ hot, lol! My friend looked disappointed because she’s usually the hottest in the room. It’s not like I was attracted to my friend that way. But it was amusing watching her shock and disappointment.
If you are a male over the age of 30 you should have figured most of this stuff out. I have watched quite a few of her videos because I like to look at her! 😛 That being said, just about everything she says is spot on. Follow her advice!
I say hi and I am immediately friendzoned, that is when I am not totally ignored by any woman that catches my eye and am interested in. Yes, some of us are cursed and with all your examples, advice, help and all the good will in the world, nothing can get me out of it
@@doughefernan2758 you have no idea. I am the friendzone, I have never been able to get out of it in my life except once. Got married to that woman and she cheated on me. So now, we barely talk and I live alone. Alone in a sea of ppl which actually is even worse than being physically alone
It sounds like you are projecting too many Beta vibes. Women are biologically hard-wired to be attracted to the dominant, alpha types, not mr nice guy.
After you invested so much time and effort with the first 4 steps, you FINALLY BECAME AN OPTION, congratulations....this is insane, she better look like Beyonce, and be a true angel if it comes to personality.
Was texting back and forth with a girl. Girl seemed interested to spend time together from the get go, then once I chose the time and place, I got a “sounds good bro!”
I'm fairly introverted but I'm not shy or quiet necessarily. One thing is certain though, being social takes a lot of energy and I feel exhausted from it.
Sometimes a woman just isn't into you no matter what you do. You can't force her to like or use these tricks. It's either she likes you for you or she don't. A woman should also be trying to win a guy over. It shouldn't be just a guy doing everything to get her while she does nothing.
Great advice as always! I like the “Pull Away” strategy! Lol I use the: “Two steps forward, one back” technique - which is pretty similar. It’s basically giving her the attention that you’re used you to giving her, and then stop for a little while, and let her mind wonder a little bit. Now she has to think about what you’re up to, and she might reach out to you, and give you some attention. And just rinse, and repeat, and each time, figure out a way to make her see you in a new light! Anyway, that’s my two cents. -Carlos Verde - Dating Tips
@Carlos Verde: Wow, Great dating advice on how to get a FriendZone! I practice this as well and I think it’s been working lately. Gonna invite this young (27 yoa) girl I like out to the movies or some drinks soon with some friends. If she flakes out like she did in the past, then I shall walk away and distance myself once again. Her lost and not mine, correct? -BB from the Dub V (40 yoa) 🤓💕🙌
May I ask for a tip? I've been really close with this girl for 5 years now and she used to send me quotes about how special I am to her and all that. Last Year I started catching feelings and told her about it (probably a mistake) and she said she wasn't feeling ready for a relationship. I decided to remain patient as she really matters to me and we stayed close and normal. Several months later after hanging out with some friends, she texted me saying she's thankful I didn't leave or make her feel bad and that she was 'stupid' (didn't know what to make of that tbh). Last week, when I got her some donuts and coffee as she was stressing out due to her exams at university, she texted me later on to tell me that she loves our friendship and she doesn't want to lose it or to be wasting my time. She also mentioned that she'd like me "to tell her all about girls I'm liking just like she'd like to introduce me to her friends". Fast-forward she basically told me she's starting to like some dude at her university but she said she's '"not quite there yet" and that our friendship means a lot to her but if I needed space she'd understand and she feels dumb for losing someone like me. The morning after she said that the decision she made the night before and even before that are 'for the now' as she's still 22 (I'm 23 btw) and 'no one knows what tomorrow brings and the people she's with today may no longer be there tomorrow' . I'm not sure if I should just leave her or give her time maybe she'll come around or no as the thought of giving up on her is really hard tbh especially with the connection we established over the past 5 years. Besides, I'm not looking for dating and relationships right now (except if it's with her) so I really don't mind.
@@josephnasr3385 I hear ya! Lol - If I were you, I would just move on. I know that’s probably not what you want to hear… But if you have been with this girl all this time, and nothing has happened - chances are she’s not interested. If you like to stay friends with her - there’s nothing wrong with that - I have plenty of female friends. You have to remember something… when you first start interacting with a girl, you got to always keep moving it forward… there are stages you have to follow, if you spend too much time in any of them, that’s how you end up in the friend zone. A lastly, I’m not saying you can’t turn things around between you and her - I’m just saying, it’s going to be hard. Having said that… anything is possible! Cheers!
@@carlosverde-datingtips7001 As someone with no one to talk to about this, I highly appreciate thanks a lot. The thing is I wanted her to focus on her studies especially that she lived a bit far away (which is why I took it slow.. dumb move I know). Again this was the first time I truly fell in love. Finally, again I will not give up on her but I won't expect anything at the same time as I'm preparing to go for my masters Degree. If she ever changes her mind and I'm still available, I might give it a shot. Thanks again!!
Did all of these, (in the course of like 6 months) and now she's refusing to even respond to my texts. I've flirted and been a really great friend. I've watched her leave and completely ignore me for a month only for her to come back and be surprised I was still there, I've told her about my "girlfriend" (who legit ghosted me a few months ago for no reason), I've been a leader in telling her advice on life/what to do in certain situations, etc. I haven't technically had one-on-one time since she lives far away, but we did have private video calls. And finally, I DID make a move a couple days ago. Annnnd now she's completely ignoring me. Fellow dudes, if you're in the friend zone with her, it's time to quit while you're ahead because there is no getting out of the friend zone. It's like a Supermassive black hole. Nothing escapes. Remember, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. If these tips are a surefire way to get her to notice you, it's also a surefire way to get her to ghost you as well. If it worked for you, great! But, this shit blew up in my face.
I am sorry for what happened to you! There are quite a few comments now about how the best action is to just let go and move forward. I agree with them. I am not saying her advice doesn't work, it is likely to have some rate of effectiveness (30%? 70%? I have no idea) but it treats the symptom and not the root cause. We should never develop feelings and expectations related to a romantic relationship before actually being in a romantic relationship. We should never ever love someone (romantically) before they are our partner. This only leads to suffering, pain, and friction - usually to both parties involved. Control. your. feelings.
Marni you are a great teacher and give great advice! Let’s be real everything is a gigantic game and with the stuff going on in our world there will be a lot woman and man ALONE in our world! These are not normal times people are unhappy 🙁 and we in very uncertain times most are economic!
I hear you. But that’s like any other times to be honest. The only thing I’ve seen in the past year is this shift towards being more open and better communication skills. That actually makes for further connection. I hear you. Just not sure how these “times” mean more lonliness
This is just saddening and even depressing to see how much more difficult/complicated men these days need to Work to get a woman. 10X more than our ancestors before us
It’s laughable how these people are self proclaimed experts. Feelings are a lot more complex. If someone is not into you, they will not be into you no matter what you do. When the feelings are gone for the most part they’re usually gone, it doesn’t matter how far away you stay, you never talk to them again, or you do the ignoring thing; that shit doesn’t work. Once it’s done, it’s done. The only way that you may have a chance is if in the past you had something that she or he hasn’t found with anyone else and maybe they miss that about you. Other than that when it’s over it’s over it doesn’t matter what you do. And the one true thing that I have definitely noticed is that women do not want to hear about other women that you like or that you have dated. Again, if that chemistry simply isn’t there, it’s just not there. Peoples feelings or emotions towards others is a lot more complex than just putting up an act.
So if she's not immediately wheels up for you, you're out. I think you can't handle a challenge. There is blowing smoke up a dead horses butt, but there are some women that are worth being patient for. maybe you just have bad game.
To be honest, as a 30 yr old woman, if a man seems interested in other women I don’t see them as an option. I feel like it’s kinda immature to play a game like that.
She said she liked me as a friend. I told her that I refused to accept being her friend. I told her I was interested, that she makes me feel better and she has all my attention. She still said that she wouldn't be with me. While I maintained that I was not her friend we did end up talking more, walking together, laughing. We bonded on the fact that we both talk shit about everybody we know. We are straight up haters. She kept telling me I was her friend and I kept telling her that I am not in fact her friend and that I was slowly but surely making her fall in love. Then one day I took her hand while we were walking and she did not pull it away. Then one day I pulled her into a hug and she turned her head to avoid the kiss, I just rubbed my nose on her cheek. Then one day I picked her up and sat her on a wall and held her hands, looked her in her eyes and told her not to despise me, to appreciate me. Then she kissed me. I love that woman, she takes care of me and I her.
@@mosetaaj8206 yes we are together 4 months now. I call her every morning at 6:40 while I drive to work. Then in the afternoons we run errands together, boring stuff. We eat dinner together then we make lunch. This is something we got into where we prepare our lunches for the next day, healthy foods. Then I go home and we do it all again. Finally on Saturday nights we spend all night and all Sunday together. We go to different gyms but both exercise early morning. I will marry this woman one day.
@@eddoreyes6168 that's great to hear man. I'm in a situation where the girl I liked tried friend zoning me and I rejected her request. She tried making up different excuses and after I told her that I don't want to be friends she said maybe we should hang out and form a friendship and I wasn't really bothered. But we really had a deep connection and I screwed it up cause of neediness and I really want her back. Plus I kind of rushed things because I wanted to see her. So reading your situation gives me a lot of faith that I can get her back and learn from my mistakes. Your story is amazing bro. Hopefully y'all will get married one day with beautiful kids. Any advice for me?
@@mosetaaj8206 call her and ask her out. Not as a friend. Tell her you want to be around her. Be honest. Communicate that to her. If she says you are her friend tell her you are not but don't hesitate to hang out with her and treat her right. I have every intention on marrying my woman. So I figured if I need to act as who I am, be patient. People in your life love you for who you are, she will see it if she's willing to put time in there to see it.
@@eddoreyes6168 Understand, this doesn’t always work (above tactics). In my case, the girl just moved on, got married, and now has kids. Never heard from her again. Happy, for you, it ended up working.
I. Never ever had this issue untill this one girl we've been close friends for years and she's scared from having very bad experiences from the past I can't get her there Everytime we close she backs out it's almost there I've never been through this I've given up and moving on just staying friends and when I did this she wants it and backs out again jheeesh!!!!!!
My problem with No.2 is this: I have always been close with female friends more than male friends. Most of those I consider as “best friends” are actually females. Not that I don’t have male best friends. But my male friends are those I don’t need to hangout with all the time. Even if we don’t speak for weeks, months or years, we are still the best of friends. But with my female best friends, I hangout with them almost every week! Women just love to gossip and I always find myself involved. The question is, will women that I actually like,will only see me as a friend? Or the worse part is, she might even think I’m gay? Because I always hangout more with female friends & a part of gossip sessions?? Honestly, I don’t care what other people think but I just want to know women’s perspective on guys like me? What would be her impression about me? Or is it nice that she sees me comfortable surrounded by girls? I need answers/advice please.
I would say try to flirt and have more physical contact with the girl you like and some friends. Greet with a huge hug, lean on her, try to make it clear, and don't be too nice saying yes to everything. Try to be more sensual and more leader, less "nice friend"
Hiring escorts (if legal) is a way better option IMHO. It allows you to confidently show abundance and drop any desperation. "Friendzone me as much as you want, i don't care"
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I suck with the social leadership aspect. I'm pretty awkward around people I don't know well. I've attracted plenty of women though without this. But been in the friendzone too. You can't make everyone like you. I usually attracted very confident women or women who were also socially awkward.
I was friend zoned a long time and I didnt even know it. Talk about having zero awareness to social situation! Once I finally smoked some good weed and reevaluated everything I saw it in a completely diffirent lens..
I’m a true Sigma male! I think she observes how females check me out. She knows I’m determined and can handle myself. She knows I’m smart and driven involved in different pursuits and am great at it! She even seen how females are liked by me on social media . Her brother and I are involved in a business/hobby. I think I see some kind of interest but I’m going to test the water 💧 to see what might happen. She sees I got a lot of swag for an average height guy! Height is not a problem with me! Those tips don’t exactly work for me. I’m considered handsome but I try not to focus on that. I need a better plan! She also knows I’m not scared to publicly speak to a crowd in a convincing way! I’m wired differently!
I have the biggest crush on you Marni Since my wife died ( was married for 15+ years ) I've been binge-watching your channel. Thank you for the company, I appreciate you Love from Michael 😘
The "pseudo date" works best if actually set up as a "pre-date". It can be openly (or almost openly) communicated as such in most cultures. You suggest being unambiguous in step 5, but this can be done more or less in step 4 already.
Did all steps even without knowing about this video. And you know what? The sparks were flying! But you must put a lot of work into yourself and show her that you’re progressing, you’re changing in a good way.
For some reason people just aren't dating but I've been doing these things with a girl I know and I think she's starting to see me differently. To make it simple I'm being funny and charming and walking away like I'm really not that interested. To make it more interesting she has a daughter and I've been laying the charm on her too trying to create a buzz so she'll tell her mom that I'm a cool and funny and confident guy. Of course women don't ask guys out so she better come at me pretty hard because I'm not asking her out again unless I'm sure.
I've already gone through all those steps. We were roommates. Cooked together, hungout together, but she's 1/2 my age. I tested her attraction with a friend hug or two but only got the butt-out hug.
I worked with a woman for a year and casually flirted with her, touching her shoulder, her hair or her back When Christmas came I bought her a really nice gift and she told all the girls we both worked with . Everyone knew that I wanted her, but I overheard her saying that she wasn’t interested in a relationship. A few months later I decided to quit that job and everyone wanted to know why except her She was the last one to reach out to me and she said she was worried about me I responded by telling her how I wanted to hold her and kiss her everyday She texted back saying she wasn’t interested in anything but being friends I told her, I understand. That was 2 months ago and I haven’t heard from her since. I’m tempted to call her because she has recently quit that job too and I found out that she’s working at the same hospital as me. I haven’t yet though
U tell her that neither one of u wants with the other person wants. So let's move on. Brake all contact with her. She will think of u and mostly will come back. Happened to me. The girl fiendzone me and I just said to myself that I was better off without her. After months she showed up at my house un announced and told me that she was crazy about me and wanted to do it all LOL so for me it was crazy as hell that what I wanted was in front of me.
Normally if I got friend zoned, Id just walk away and live my life. But I just got friend zoned today by my best friend, who had romantic feelings for me for a very long time. Unfortunately, I didn’t develop feelings for her until recently, so when I finally asked her out, she friend zoned me cuz she lost feelings. I was so sure we were gonna make it work and have a bright future, but nope. This is why I don’t talk to women
Dude. Not sure if you're young enough for me to call you dude. But... dude. I am sorry for the mismatched timing with your friend but the jump to "This is why I don't talk to women" is little bit dramatic, isn't it? Let me answer... it is. I am provoking you on purpose here because "not talking to women" will make you lose the opportunity to meet wonderful people, have a great time and, sometimes, even sex. Sure, some of them can be awful... just as some men can be awful. Awfulness distribution follows a normal bell-shaped curve in the population, regardless of gender. Some of our experiences will be bad, some will be good. It's life. It has nothing to do with women. That mindset will only hurt you and prevent you from enjoying a significant part of life. Being scared of women or avoiding them won't make you happier, it will make you sad.
One time I made the mistake of sitting in the first row of a comedy show. The comedian pointed to me and asked how would I sum up my sex life. I said infrequently. He said is that one word or two words!
I'm in a mid-between zone. She reached back out less than a week after she broke up with me. Said she didn't realize how much she'd hurt and how much she'd miss me. We've been much flirtier and she's seen the confident and playful side of me (which was lacking early on). She asked me if I wanted to meetup next week as well as go to her parents for Thanksgiving. So, the semi-pullaway, show options, and pseudo-date are out. I'm at a loss on how to approach my situation.
Just do it. Go hangout with her and be genuine, don’t worry or think about how she feels about you or how y’all felt, have a good time with her and if the connection is there it’s there. If she broke up with you, and you don’t enjoy hanging out with her because she doesn’t seem interested anymore or you aren’t yourself, then it’s her loss. You obviously aren’t doing a bad job and don’t need to put on any act to be attractive because she wants you again. Just, as corny as it sounds, change your mindset and be yourself
There are a number of ways for a guy to escape the infamous "friend zone". 1. Show an interest, in another girl who is considered "hot". Once your "friend" sees that you are diverting your interest toward someone else, then your sexual market value will increase, at least in her eyes. 2. Take up a hobby, such as Judo, a foreign language, Religion, or Aviation, If she sees that you a passionate about something, other than her, she will want to date you, just so you can transfer some of that passion on to her. 3. Go to Graduate School, get a masters degree in IT, and get a job at Google, making a six figure income. 4. Wait for about 10 yrs, when your "friend" is over 30 yrs old, a baby mama, with 4 kids, 90 pounds overweight, and working at Walmart for $15.00 / hour. Now, that she has no other options, she will be falling all over herself to go out with you, in a heartbeat. 5. Win the Lottery.
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@@hindenberg507 why so mad?
@@marnikinrys stop deleting comments then.
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Friendzones aren’t really a problem.
Finding women WORTH dating and committing to is the current problem I see everywhere
There are a number of ways for a guy to escape the infamous "friend zone".
1. Show an interest, in another girl who is considered "hot". Once your "friend" sees that you are diverting your interest toward someone else, then your sexual market value will increase, at least in her eyes.
2. Take up a hobby, such as Judo, a foreign language, Religion, or Aviation, If she sees that you a passionate about something, other than her, she will want to date you, just so you can transfer some of that passion on to her.
3. Go to Graduate School, get a masters degree in IT, and get a job at Google, making a six figure income.
4. Wait for about 10 yrs, when your "friend" is over 30 yrs old, a baby mama, with 4 kids, 90 pounds overweight, and working at Walmart for $15.00 / hour. Now, that she has no other options, she will be falling all over herself to go out with you, in a heartbeat.
5. Win the Lottery.
Nah, mate. The problem isn't everyone else on earth, it's you. Stop being the angry dude who doesn't do anything interesting
So True.
Oj viey, I agree and it is so true.
That or you just could really improve your skill of resourcefulness... put in the work to know what you want, and then learn where (outside of your phone) these types are most likely to be (hiking and backpacking the trails of Colorado Most Likely lol, and not being lazy on tik tok along with you), you'll find them. The problem is entitled / egotistical LAZINESS. You're not worth dating if you're not willing to do whatever it takes to find what you deem to be "worth dating".
No, don't do any of these things! Move on and enjoy life and meeting people, notice I said people and not women. Integrate yourself into your interests (mine are weightlifting, jiu-jitsu, and progressing on my teaching career) Leave this whole "social dating" on the back. These "rules" will only have you end up with a woman that's full of games and manipulations, it will increase the divorce rate and make you a statistic. Just move on and progress and make yourself the best version of yourself. In time, a woman that is totally into you will reveal herself to you. And she will make things very easy for you, non of these head games and "friendzone" BS rules. My opinion, if you're a high quality man with passion, a plan, and are a good man (a strong man who is a teacher, leader, and student) and are getting ignored, rejected, friendzone these women have revealed themselves to who they are. It's not you, it's actually their mindsets and the image they have of what a man is, the type they find attractive. Move on and seek your own happiness.
Best advice ever. Thank you for posting this. That’s exactly how I see it.
Best advice I’ve heard. Try to get the life you want and if you just be yourself, women are eventually gonna be interested and want you. That’s how it is
I'm betting that you're concentrating on work etc because your single? Trust me, nothing comes to you if you sit around waiting for life to happen! You have to meet people in order to meet her( the ONE!), What you suggest is a sure-fire way to be single and lonely all your life! I only read half your comment but recognised that you described what I did! Nobody gives it to you, you have to seek it! You won't find the one unless you meet the "non-ones"! Marni has helped me get laid more this year than the last decade! It's all about confidence and flirting! Cheers
I really needed to see this, best advice I’ve seen in a long time.
@@lemonkeet6439 yes man
By the time I made it to Step 3 I met and attracted a new woman and lost interest in friend zone girl 🤷♂️
Thats how you do it brotha is a girl really likes you you dont have to do all this lol
Yep. That's what you should have done from the beginning. If a girl isn't interested, just move on.
Just step 1, I already had like 4 options online. I nolonger think about or chase women. Women literally ask me out and all I do is just selecting the best match for a month. Life is far too good when you are just enjoying yourself
Bro same her
My man!
This is all factual advice. Back in my dating days I was completely smitten with this one girl. I confessed my feelings and all that but was pretty much left in the friend zone. So after numerous attempts, I backed off. But when I started seeing other girls she got all interested again. Even called me up sobbing one day after she found out I had stayed the night at another girl's place. Maybe a few days after that would have been a good time to get her to go out on a date. But I decided to move on anyway. I'm not playing those games if I don't have to. My current wife never played those games and we have been happily married for 16 years now.
Guess she wanted to leave her "options"open.
Gd story
My man
Similar experience. Confessed I wanted to be more than friends but she insisted on being friends even though she was the one who initiated contact first and made it obvious she liked me. Just straight up ghosted her and she tried saying hi to me once but I walked past her without saying anything. I watched her leave and said/did nothing. Found out through a friend of mine she was asking about me later, some straight bullshit honestly.
They always want want what they cant have anymore
It's all games. When I was in high school I had a girl friend who I was infatuated with. We were really good friends, hung out all the time, and I asked her out a bunch and she always shot me down. One day, as a senior, I started dating a girl over the weekend. When I went to school Monday, I was telling my friends about her, and this girl overheard. Later in the day she gave me a letter telling me she was just about to ask me out cause she realized I was the one for her and it hurt her that I was seeing this other girl and she would wait for me forever. That relationship lasted 6 months and when it was over I went to her and told her and she said she changed her mind. We're both in our 40s now and we've never dated. Games. They're all games.
Yup, and Marni wants us to invest time to play the game with them. I’ll be spending my time more wisely, thank you.
I had that too, except I didn't ask her out qhen the other relationship ended because I wouldn't wanna be with someone who blows my dms up like she did, she had her chance and didn't take it
Steps:
1. Semi-pullaway (flirt but don't ask her out yet)
2. Show your options (mention other girls; introduce her to other girls as a friend)
3. Social leadership (facilitate conversations)
4. Pseudo-date (casual 1:1 time, low investment)
5. Make a move (if she is flirting back). Go for a kiss ideally, or tell her you want to go on a "date"
Hope this piqued your interest and got you to watch the whole video!
How about mentioning my wife ?
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NO mate CUT ALL CONTACT with them.. DATE OTHER WOMEN she's only using you for Non sexual attention and Validation
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Thanks for saving my precious 13 mins.
Step 1 - Tell her how you feel about her
Step 2 - watch her ghosting you
Lmao 😂
True sadly lol
IKR
haha 🤣
That’s only going to happen if your short or have an ugly face. If your tall and good looking then you shouldn’t have this problem
Most women tend to friend zone nice guys. And use them to fulfill their emotional needs. To not feel so lonely being single, until they get with the person who they actually want to be with. And then it turns out that the person who they actually want to be with is no good.
There's no problem being friends before getting in a relationship with someone. But it's important to be clear with your intentions and not use the person. The same goes for men not just for women. Men who are only interested in a one night stand, and then lose interest.
That's cause girls like the bad boys😢
Those type of women belong to the streets
@@fml5910 what’s the reason she friendzoned you?
That's actually true. I've been in those situations multiple times, until I stopped.
omg this actually happends? jeez
Definition of "Friend Zone". I can do better than you but just in case I can't I will keep you around. Guys don't want or need girls as friends.
yea girls don't even share my interest. They are always an investment that's really only worth it if you want to start a family. But feminism is making it worse.
To avoid being someone's emotional sponge "friend guy", just muster self discipline and tell that person you don't see them that way then WALK AWAY. There's plenty of people in the world and noone deserves having to yearn for the love of someone who keeps them at arms length all the time.
I love watching these as a girl and seeing what I think...all I will say is for step 2 please please watch yourself and don't be cringe in the way that you "show her your options" because if you seem like you're trying too hard and are posting cringey pics with girls on Instagram, and shit it's really weird! Also, as a girl, if I see other women involved with a guy I tend to pull away rather than be more interested because I don't like to waste energy fighting over a guy. And, if a woman wants you just because she's possessive and competitive, she will still stop valuing you over time once she has you. Having female friends and having the platonic approval of other women is actually really valuable in my eyes.
Finally, something that makes sense.
I dont try so hard
As a guy, that feels like such a disordered way of thinking... Once I "have" someone I value them even more, not less.
@@m.taylor7025 so do i bro
@@m.taylor7025 what she is talking about is women who are "possessive and competitive" these types of women, same as with us men, it's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase. So once she/he has the desired person .. the challenge is gone. People who are in it for the right reasons' who are mature enough emotionally & intelligently are the people you are talking about; they value things more, love deeper and grow strong bonds with time.
"Friends with Benefits" -- Girl getting friend zoned. "Boyfriend without Benefits" -- Guy getting friend zoned.
Once you've been put in the friendzone by a woman, it's time to move on. It's that simple. Your time and energy could be spent on another girl.
she might be friendship/friend zone material.
@@donaldfewell8908 my boy there’s no such thing lol.
@@willieboi254 There's no such thing as friendship material, or no such thing as the friend zone?
@@donaldfewell8908 yes she not seeing you fancy enough to be her boyfriend so she wouldn't date you or have sex
I agree. The advisers really need to start working hard on teaching women that the 'nice guy' is the one they really want. The one that truly cares and wants to see her smile. The guy they can trust and that it's ok to be both friends AND be in a relationship. Educate her that the good guy is the keeper and how to secure a chance at making great lifelong memories. It seems that social conditioning has made up some poopy rule that you cannot date friends. However, you can date a stranger you don't know or trust, waste time trying to make him a friend. Just to realize he's a jerk or whatever then end up hating him.
Ladies forget all the tests and games. Go to your best mostly single guy friend and tell him that you are finally mature and you want to give him that chance he has been waiting on for years.
As much as I’d like a relationship I’m comfortable with being alone. And that pisses some women off. I dated this woman on and off. She got mad at me and then took off. Later she said I didn’t stop her. I said you wanted to go. You had your bags packed and everything. I don’t chase anyone. If you want to leave then go. I used to be needy. I used to not want to be alone. I had a marriage where I ended up being cheated on. She left me and married the other guy. It was devastating for a while. But I learned to enjoy being by myself. It’s actually liberating to not need people. I’m not antisocial though either. I’m not a complete asshole either. If I get into a relationship I do put effort into it.
You perfectly explained it well. I was in a similar boat where as a "nice guy" I got hurt for putting more into a previous relationship. I still do "work" when I find the right person but I love my alone time it's peaceful. HOpefully I find the day that will make me "spark" back in to the game!
One huge potential problem with these videos is I've noticed the tips can actually (indirectly mainly) be targeted towards the extrovert kinda guys who are after the diva kinda girls. And I think one damn important thing to remember is not all girls think like how this video implies the way they all think. And watching it makes me think, I can definitely use a few of these but mostly this stuff isn't for me. Not bcoz I think these tricks are beneath me but bcoz that's not who I am/ want to be and that's not the kinda girl I'm after. I mean not being the first to speak and lead and mingle with everyone won't exactly make you less of a man!
I once "simped" for my highschool best friend for 3 years but if I had tips like this her and I probably wouldnt have crashed and burned so badly 😂
Deadass bruh we were all down bad in high school it’s ok😭
Lmao i feel u bruh. Same thing!
Damn that sucks. At least you learned a lesson out of it.
There are a number of ways for a guy to escape the infamous "friend zone".
1. Show an interest, in another girl who is considered "hot". Once your "friend" sees that you are diverting your interest toward someone else, then your sexual market value will increase, at least in her eyes.
2. Take up a hobby, such as Judo, a foreign language, Religion, or Aviation, If she sees that you a passionate about something, other than her, she will want to date you, just so you can transfer some of that passion on to her.
3. Go to Graduate School, get a masters degree in IT, and get a job at Google, making a six figure income.
4. Wait for about 10 yrs, when your "friend" is over 30 yrs old, a baby mama, with 4 kids, 90 pounds overweight, and working at Walmart for $15.00 / hour. Now, that she has no other options, she will be falling all over herself to go out with you, in a heartbeat.
5. Win the Lottery.
Marnie made me see things differently. What an amazing and caring woman. I am filled with hope for my future. Finally some compassion for guys who keep failing. Thank you!
Dude pass on this. If you HAVE to have a woman, then do what they want...get six pack and, treat them like shit and they will be yours.
All you have to do is ONE thing--be comfortable with yourself at all times!! Only YOU can do that!! (A confident dude who has personality and lets things flow will always attract somebody, somewhere--the universe will align when it is meant to align.)
"Love is not a possession, it is a state of being" (Osho)
That is true
i know, i hate how these dating gurus complicate everything, ive heard worse such as get money, status or whatever to get a girl, that screams "IM NEEDY" which is and cant be sexy in the eyes of regular women. some might be attracted by that but usually are the ones extremely insecure and have plastic surgery to the point they look deformed which are not in the interest of most men.
This gets added to my playlist ANCIENT WISDOM
Lmfao
Stop with the games. Men in the friend zone lack confidence. Period. Tell her how you feel. Be direct. If she responds to you then wonderful,if not move on. No games.
"Show her your other options" ... haha... good one. Assuming I have options to begin with, rather than all of them being just friends at best, acquaintances at worst.
I've watched a number of your videos and thoroughly enjoy them and your presentation of them. I can't take the time to read the thousands of comments you receive so I don't know if my input will be something new or if it's been mentioned before. It is dancing. I'm 73 now and have danced since I was about 26. I now do seven different dances. I was divorced when I was 29 and dancing turned out to be a goldmine in terms of meeting women. It was my ex that wanted us to take dance lessons so, in effect, it was she who gave me the goldmine. Because of dancing, I did really well with women from thirty-one through my fifties and a bit into my 60's. It turns out that dancing is a gateway to just about everything you advocate in your videos. Asking a woman to dance shows you've noticed her and if she accepts your invitation to dance you are now in a position to touch her, talk with her, let her test you, be a leader, and get to know her a bit and it gives her an opportunity to tell if you are someone she would like to know better, and they WILL let you know. If you see her out often, and you keep asking her for dances, over a short period of time she becomes very comfortable with you. Often times she'll come over and ask you to dance and perhaps introduce you to her girlfriends who also like to dance. Back in the day I was meeting probably 100 women per year through dancing. Some I dated and others I didn't, preferring to just know them as dance friends. All I'll say is that my sex life was not boring. I also managed to be in three longer term relationships, i.e. six years (12 years younger than I), two and a half years (22 years younger) and five years (25 years younger). So everything you are talking about, as a wing girl, is true. So guys, be your own man, be your best man, and lead the dance and everything else. If she doesn't like you leading then walk away. I've never remarried because I've chosen not to. I wanted to be married but divorce court was a real education and I'm a very good student.
Even now, when I go out, women of all ages sometimes come over to me to compliment me on my dancing which gives me an excellent opportunity to ask them to dance and there are a lot of women who love to dance. Some guys would rather go out and buy a new $45K pickup thinking any woman would love to be seen it when all they really have to do is take a couple of dance lessons for a lot less money. Men and women do not think alike. Thank you for your content Marni!
If you attract a girl by pretending to be someone you're not, she won't love you. She will instead love the guy you are pretending to be.
It sounds cliche, but just be yourself and be open to rejection. If a girl doesn't like you for who you are, then you've short-listed your candidates and are closer to finding someone who's actually your type.
Exactly.
Wow you don´t say...that´s why you are on this video comment section...
Much like Black Cat loving Spider-Man and having no interest in Peter Parker - not that she ever knew his secret identity... 😂
Don’t ever give advice again 🤦♂️
@@cosmiccloud9382 smh at you
Gee, Marni all I did was touch her inner thigh and smile and I was immediately, “out of the friend zone” lol 😂.
The key word is “immediately” 🍻
What happened you? went to jail ? Escaped friend zone by getting off her friends list all together
How's jail
You're in the prison zone
An into jail lmao
Just want to add my own two cents. This is a great introduction video to the friend zone. But there is much more to it. Some guys fear the friend zone like the kiss of death and others can make it work for them. Here's how, or "Friend Zone Pro".
1. Don't fear the friend zone. Girls use it all the time and they will move you out of it quickly if you pass some basic tests.
2. Be absolutely certain she knows you fully accept the friend zone temporarily when you are placed in it. There is no getting out of it so embrace it. If she senses you are squirming you have already failed the first test.
3. Accept that if you are attempting to date far out of your league you are going to have to become a master of the friend zone and there is no way around it.
4. Don't confuse the friend zone with being a Barnacle. Fawning on someone who is actually trying to avoid you does not count. Have some self respect. If she does not want to have anything to do with you and is just too timid to tell you then move on.
5. Be able to detect the difference between the "Friend Zone" and the "Friend with Potential Zone" They may look the same but they are not. How do you know? She treats you with respect (see the host's other videos on this). She does not mind being alone with you. She does not cancel appointments last minute. She gets a little jealous if other women infringe on her time with you.
6. Understand why you are in the friend zone. The more intelligent a woman is the greater the chance she may wants to see how you treat her outside the bedroom. Also she may have experienced some recent turmoil.
7. This one is odd but trust me. It could actually be a good sign. Women will sometimes put a guy in the friend zone if they see serious long term potential. She may not want to risk giving you what you want too quickly and then losing you. Some women will play the long game when they find a keeper.
8. Accept some responsibility. If you are behaving immaturely or trying to move too fast, or don't have a job or a car, or don't take care of yourself, or exhibit clear signs of not being serious about your success, or seem unsure of yourself, or don't know how to dress yourself, or don't listen to what she says when she talks, or don't know what the inside of a gym looks like then you put yourself in the friend zone not her. Man up and fix the problems first.
9. Be aware that the friend zone could be your own invention. If the women in question is beautiful there is almost no chance she would be spending time with you at all unless there was at least some potential. Think about it. If she is smart and attractive she would not abide you as a friend if you were someone she would not want be seen with. Trust me, if you are her friend, you are checking off at least some of the boxes.
10. Understand how the friend zone works. Time can move slowly but when you are moved out it will happen suddenly, without warning and for no apparent reason.
Just for the record, be aware the term "friend zone" is a male invention and not one women generally use in regard to someone they care about. Women require people to demonstrate respect, patience and ambition all the time before levelling them up and they don't consider this a cage with no key. Sorry, one more thing, if she is truly a prize and you are man enough to handle the friendship don't throw away a golden fishing rod just because you didn't get the fish.
You are showing the friend zone in a positive light, to not fear it nor hate it. It's so refreshing because most of the times it seems like a point of no return with our woman of interest. I really like your approach to this and I would like to receive your teachings if you don't mind. Please.
Real facts
This guy gets it. Well said.
Top Point 8: Why always a car or gym? I'm not interested in getting car and sport sucks in my opinion (I'm more on the musical side)
"Friend with potential zone" is just enough gaslighting to myself to keep me hopeful. lol
The one thing that trumps all of these things is non-compliance. The main reason guys get put in the friend zone is because they are too nice. Learn to tell a woman "no" from time to time. You'll notice how their perception of you changes. It shows you have confidence and balls. Two things women find irresistible.
...or..... try having enough balls to tell them "yes" to everything.
There are a number of ways for a guy to escape the infamous "friend zone".
1. Show an interest, in another girl who is considered "hot". Once your "friend" sees that you are diverting your interest toward someone else, then your sexual market value will increase, at least in her eyes.
2. Take up a hobby, such as Judo, a foreign language, Religion, or Aviation, If she sees that you a passionate about something, other than her, she will want to date you, just so you can transfer some of that passion on to her.
3. Go to Graduate School, get a masters degree in IT, and get a job at Google, making a six figure income.
4. Wait for about 10 yrs, when your "friend" is over 30 yrs old, a baby mama, with 4 kids, 90 pounds overweight, and working at Walmart for $15.00 / hour. Now, that she has no other options, she will be falling all over herself to go out with you, in a heartbeat.
5. Win the Lottery.
Follow these 5 steps :
1. Instead of confessing your feelings, pull away (semi pull-away).
2. Show you have options with other girls.
3. Be a leader.
4. Pseudo date.
5. Make a move : offer a proper date.
I just noticed that in some ways, without even thinking of what I was doing, I did this : I met that girl at the post office, where she was employed. I kid her a bit, ask if they make special rates for sudents (it's obvious I'm no more a student)... Then when I go she, she walks with to the main door. I'm a bit in a hurry but she says : "let's call each other for a coffee"... Ok... Phone number exchange and good bye.
The next day I tell her "tonight I'll be out with friends" and ask if she wants to join us... She says ok... In fact I had no plan with friends but I call a couple of friends and finally we all were around the table. Is this kinda pseudo date ? Maybe... Then I take her to the taxi station... Little friendly kiss and good bye. Just before, she found 50 bucks on a sidewalk and insisted for giving them to me... :) I declined but she said it was for good luck. And finally 2 days later I offered a proper date which went perfectly. I make it short but I met a hot girl I know, a waitress in a bar I often visit, and she talked to me very friendly.. Kinda social proof + I have options ? Maybe.. Though I did nothing for it. Sometimes things naturally happen the rignt way;
Ok do you have anything for
My wife going out at 1130 to meet an old friend of mine and not getting home till 2 or 3 am and she says nothings going on and he says the same thing
The best way to get out of a friendzone is to realize the woman is not capable to recognize a good man. You walk away and let her live her own lonely life with her cats. No bigger turn off than a friendzoning woman. Brrr....
I ama door to door cat food salesman. Do you know how many women I gave free cat food to?
Rodger that!
I unfortunately lost my wife of many many years this year and one thing I am happy, out of a zillion, when looking back is that I never once had to play games when we were dating or have a strategy. She loved my expressiveness from the get go and I never had to worry that I was saying to much or showing too much interest because you know what? She loved that I expressed interest. The right woman will not have to be "played" and will completely like it when you show interest.
No pain, no gain. No risk, no reward. Game on, gentlemen.
Smile, act with confidence, be playful, and a little mysterious.
Dear Marnie I just felt it necessary to emphasize that flirting as flirting is not something that is predetermined adhering to certain steps to achieve the goal. The magic of flirting is the moment itself and how it goes depends on the individual and his ability to seize the moment and recognize the signs...🥂🥂👋
Treat them mean keep them keen.
At 6:13 Marnie says that social leadership is a quality that turns women on too. Be the one who mingles with people. Be the first one who is willing to get playful in a group of people when the setting is more serious. Encourage others to share their thoughts and stories, and share your thoughts and stories freely. And own it
Yes, do these five things and you will become confident, stronger and wiser in your efforts. Become a stronger version of yourself.
I had a platonic relationship with a girl. She never once made a pass at me. I never tried either.
Then one day while visiting her, she was at work and she came home early to find her best friend and I getting freaky.
That night she made a move on me. Women value things other women have shown interest.
In other words, they are spoiled children who suddenly notice someone else playing with a "toy" she never had any interest in before, and suddenly want to possess the toy herself and pulls all kinds of shenanigans to get the toy away from the other kid.
@@nathanmorgan3647 summed it up perfectly
Things that never happen vol 1
@@exxie1 very incorrect. But at least you got to use your played out line and feel good about yourself.
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@@nathanmorgan3647 you said it… I may have thought it.
But really, she is a nice woman. My wife and I are meeting up with her in March for a ski trip with friends.
But she just turned 40 and recently confessed that she is afraid she will never get to have kids.
The way he put it into words and made it make sense and got thru to him and say it like/as it is to him was special. I liked it coz that's the way it (should) be.
This video can be summed up in the advice my grandfather gave me - You can get a woman to do anything if you can make her think it's her idea.
I have been focusing on myself! Girls chase me! I always leave girls wanting more! I workout 6 days a week 💪! I notice the difference in my physique! I maintain my masculine frame! I stand my ground and don't let anyone walk all over me!
Wow, did you want a mic so you can announce it?
Yes, extra physical conditioning initially does get that reaction, and it can be really interesting actually. By the way clothes do matter for guys just like girls, if baggy cloths hide your male bust, they do not get that overcoming in warmth. So Marni says your physical attractiveness don't matter, but but when you are very obviously considerate built and your dressed showy, it is hard to not notice, people start calling you "bro" and girls look, but if you don't catch it and smile it don't go far but when you catch it, or they were not expecting it then it makes an obvious impression. Oh, note after they get used to you interact more than that first two times, it looses traction, so while their minds are thinking naughty, you have to move fast. Honestly, it is fun and when dudes are also saying "holey crap" when you walk in the door, you know those gains are on. I am a short guy and I am not very wide. 29" waist, 30" hips, 36" chest and 37-38 glutes 5'4" tall - reason I mention is the response for me is different than for the Big Bear Guy, and I am always very warm so shorts an tank top in 60degree weather gets attention and smirks, I am thinking attention is probably just attributed to being like a neon and brightly outshining to ordinary, honestly cute clothes help! I think....
Ahuh sure Steve....
Wow Steve, so why watch this video in the first place if you're having no trouble? I watched it 2 weeks ago due to a girl who I told I liked moving in on my best friend instead, but then I felt really petty and pathetic and decided to move on, and then just this week I found a girl and it's going quite well so far. So why'd you watch this Steve, for shits and giggles?
Unfortunately working out won’t make your face any better looking and won’t make you grow any taller. If your short, have an ugly face or bald then it’s over for you
Very easy. Terminate all contact. That definitely gets you out of the friendzone.
That should be what the video says.
@@FlappyBellyactually i wrote this without watching the video. Now i did and these are kinda valid options. Not 100% but could work. Definitely better than simping.
@@pocok5000 Simping is the express lane to the friend zone
Solid and clearly articulated. Better than another vid about escaping the friend zone.
I was talking to my friends about a foxy French girl who was flirting with me. One of my friends who is a hottie herself asked facetiously, Is she hotter than me? There was a pregnant pause, then I said, She was pretty effin’ hot, lol! My friend looked disappointed because she’s usually the hottest in the room. It’s not like I was attracted to my friend that way. But it was amusing watching her shock and disappointment.
These actually work, i tried some before even without knowing about this video.
If you are a male over the age of 30 you should have figured most of this stuff out. I have watched quite a few of her videos because I like to look at her! 😛 That being said, just about everything she says is spot on. Follow her advice!
This is how you should always behalve not only when you want to get out of the friend zone.
I say hi and I am immediately friendzoned, that is when I am not totally ignored by any woman that catches my eye and am interested in.
Yes, some of us are cursed and with all your examples, advice, help and all the good will in the world, nothing can get me out of it
Don't give up so easily. You don't know what woman are thinking. try to assume you are NOT in the friend zone. I should try this too ;-)
@@doughefernan2758 you have no idea. I am the friendzone, I have never been able to get out of it in my life except once. Got married to that woman and she cheated on me. So now, we barely talk and I live alone. Alone in a sea of ppl which actually is even worse than being physically alone
It sounds like you are projecting too many Beta vibes. Women are biologically hard-wired to be attracted to the dominant, alpha types, not mr nice guy.
After you invested so much time and effort with the first 4 steps, you FINALLY BECAME AN OPTION, congratulations....this is insane, she better look like Beyonce, and be a true angel if it comes to personality.
Was texting back and forth with a girl. Girl seemed interested to spend time together from the get go, then once I chose the time and place, I got a “sounds good bro!”
the social leader one sounds too much like "be extroverted"... I'm afraid that's not possible for those of us that are shy, introverted and quiet.
I'm fairly introverted but I'm not shy or quiet necessarily. One thing is certain though, being social takes a lot of energy and I feel exhausted from it.
I have done these kind of steps a 1000 times, but she did put me always back in the friendzone. I believe in stop even trying to win her over.
Sometimes a woman just isn't into you no matter what you do. You can't force her to like or use these tricks. It's either she likes you for you or she don't. A woman should also be trying to win a guy over. It shouldn't be just a guy doing everything to get her while she does nothing.
Great advice as always! I like the “Pull Away” strategy! Lol
I use the: “Two steps forward, one back” technique - which is pretty similar.
It’s basically giving her the attention that you’re used you to giving her, and then stop for a little while, and let her mind wonder a little bit.
Now she has to think about what you’re up to, and she might reach out to you, and give you some attention.
And just rinse, and repeat, and each time, figure out a way to make her see you in a new light!
Anyway, that’s my two cents.
-Carlos Verde - Dating Tips
@Carlos Verde: Wow, Great dating advice on how to get a FriendZone! I practice this as well and I think it’s been working lately. Gonna invite this young (27 yoa) girl I like out to the movies or some drinks soon with some friends. If she flakes out like she did in the past, then I shall walk away and distance myself once again. Her lost and not mine, correct? -BB from the Dub V (40 yoa) 🤓💕🙌
@@brianbarit3091 I hear ya bro. I’m glad I could help!
May I ask for a tip?
I've been really close with this girl for 5 years now and she used to send me quotes about how special I am to her and all that.
Last Year I started catching feelings and told her about it (probably a mistake) and she said she wasn't feeling ready for a relationship. I decided to remain patient as she really matters to me and we stayed close and normal. Several months later after hanging out with some friends, she texted me saying she's thankful I didn't leave or make her feel bad and that she was 'stupid' (didn't know what to make of that tbh).
Last week, when I got her some donuts and coffee as she was stressing out due to her exams at university, she texted me later on to tell me that she loves our friendship and she doesn't want to lose it or to be wasting my time. She also mentioned that she'd like me "to tell her all about girls I'm liking just like she'd like to introduce me to her friends". Fast-forward she basically told me she's starting to like some dude at her university but she said she's '"not quite there yet" and that our friendship means a lot to her but if I needed space she'd understand and she feels dumb for losing someone like me.
The morning after she said that the decision she made the night before and even before that are 'for the now' as she's still 22 (I'm 23 btw) and 'no one knows what tomorrow brings and the people she's with today may no longer be there tomorrow' .
I'm not sure if I should just leave her or give her time maybe she'll come around or no as the thought of giving up on her is really hard tbh especially with the connection we established over the past 5 years. Besides, I'm not looking for dating and relationships right now (except if it's with her) so I really don't mind.
@@josephnasr3385 I hear ya! Lol - If I were you, I would just move on. I know that’s probably not what you want to hear…
But if you have been with this girl all this time, and nothing has happened - chances are she’s not interested.
If you like to stay friends with her - there’s nothing wrong with that - I have plenty of female friends.
You have to remember something… when you first start interacting with a girl, you got to always keep moving it forward…
there are stages you have to follow, if you spend too much time in any of them, that’s how you end up in the friend zone.
A lastly, I’m not saying you can’t turn things around between you and her - I’m just saying, it’s going to be hard.
Having said that… anything is possible! Cheers!
@@carlosverde-datingtips7001 As someone with no one to talk to about this, I highly appreciate thanks a lot.
The thing is I wanted her to focus on her studies especially that she lived a bit far away (which is why I took it slow.. dumb move I know). Again this was the first time I truly fell in love.
Finally, again I will not give up on her but I won't expect anything at the same time as I'm preparing to go for my masters Degree. If she ever changes her mind and I'm still available, I might give it a shot.
Thanks again!!
Did all of these, (in the course of like 6 months) and now she's refusing to even respond to my texts. I've flirted and been a really great friend. I've watched her leave and completely ignore me for a month only for her to come back and be surprised I was still there, I've told her about my "girlfriend" (who legit ghosted me a few months ago for no reason), I've been a leader in telling her advice on life/what to do in certain situations, etc. I haven't technically had one-on-one time since she lives far away, but we did have private video calls. And finally, I DID make a move a couple days ago. Annnnd now she's completely ignoring me. Fellow dudes, if you're in the friend zone with her, it's time to quit while you're ahead because there is no getting out of the friend zone. It's like a Supermassive black hole. Nothing escapes. Remember, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. If these tips are a surefire way to get her to notice you, it's also a surefire way to get her to ghost you as well. If it worked for you, great! But, this shit blew up in my face.
I am sorry for what happened to you!
There are quite a few comments now about how the best action is to just let go and move forward. I agree with them.
I am not saying her advice doesn't work, it is likely to have some rate of effectiveness (30%? 70%? I have no idea) but it treats the symptom and not the root cause. We should never develop feelings and expectations related to a romantic relationship before actually being in a romantic relationship. We should never ever love someone (romantically) before they are our partner. This only leads to suffering, pain, and friction - usually to both parties involved.
Control. your. feelings.
Marni you are a great teacher and give great advice!
Let’s be real everything is a gigantic game and with the stuff going on in our world there will be a lot woman and man ALONE in our world!
These are not normal times people are unhappy 🙁 and we in very uncertain times most are economic!
I hear you. But that’s like any other times to be honest. The only thing I’ve seen in the past year is this shift towards being more open and better communication skills.
That actually makes for further connection.
I hear you. Just not sure how these “times” mean more lonliness
Just be a man.. we don't have time for games. If you want it, go for it. If she's interested, she will respond.
@@garthmccrary4019 i defiantly go for it
@@marnikinrys
These times : But I work like a woman and I demand to be paid like a man.
Will this work with a woman older than you
Just hats off to her person who impressed this woman to become his soul mate.
This is just saddening and even depressing to see how much more difficult/complicated men these days need to Work to get a woman. 10X more than our ancestors before us
it's factually incredible
You have such a great personality Marni. Please never lose that
Why can't two people just say they like each other.
1. Fear
Nothing is the right way just be respectful love yourself and she will find you
It’s laughable how these people are self proclaimed experts. Feelings are a lot more complex. If someone is not into you, they will not be into you no matter what you do. When the feelings are gone for the most part they’re usually gone, it doesn’t matter how far away you stay, you never talk to them again, or you do the ignoring thing; that shit doesn’t work. Once it’s done, it’s done. The only way that you may have a chance is if in the past you had something that she or he hasn’t found with anyone else and maybe they miss that about you. Other than that when it’s over it’s over it doesn’t matter what you do. And the one true thing that I have definitely noticed is that women do not want to hear about other women that you like or that you have dated. Again, if that chemistry simply isn’t there, it’s just not there. Peoples feelings or emotions towards others is a lot more complex than just putting up an act.
So if she's not immediately wheels up for you, you're out. I think you can't handle a challenge. There is blowing smoke up a dead horses butt, but there are some women that are worth being patient for. maybe you just have bad game.
Works only if she is a real friend .I believe it because it makes sense logically ..I have seen many dating gurus speka bs.This is gold
To be honest, as a 30 yr old woman, if a man seems interested in other women I don’t see them as an option. I feel like it’s kinda immature to play a game like that.
That goes both ways
I get so much chatter fatigue I find myself tuning out and keep having to go back and re-watch.
She said she liked me as a friend. I told her that I refused to accept being her friend.
I told her I was interested, that she makes me feel better and she has all my attention. She still said that she wouldn't be with me.
While I maintained that I was not her friend we did end up talking more, walking together, laughing. We bonded on the fact that we both talk shit about everybody we know. We are straight up haters. She kept telling me I was her friend and I kept telling her that I am not in fact her friend and that I was slowly but surely making her fall in love.
Then one day I took her hand while we were walking and she did not pull it away.
Then one day I pulled her into a hug and she turned her head to avoid the kiss, I just rubbed my nose on her cheek.
Then one day I picked her up and sat her on a wall and held her hands, looked her in her eyes and told her not to despise me, to appreciate me. Then she kissed me.
I love that woman, she takes care of me and I her.
Any updates my friend? This is great to hear
@@mosetaaj8206 yes we are together 4 months now. I call her every morning at 6:40 while I drive to work. Then in the afternoons we run errands together, boring stuff. We eat dinner together then we make lunch. This is something we got into where we prepare our lunches for the next day, healthy foods. Then I go home and we do it all again. Finally on Saturday nights we spend all night and all Sunday together. We go to different gyms but both exercise early morning. I will marry this woman one day.
@@eddoreyes6168 that's great to hear man. I'm in a situation where the girl I liked tried friend zoning me and I rejected her request. She tried making up different excuses and after I told her that I don't want to be friends she said maybe we should hang out and form a friendship and I wasn't really bothered. But we really had a deep connection and I screwed it up cause of neediness and I really want her back. Plus I kind of rushed things because I wanted to see her.
So reading your situation gives me a lot of faith that I can get her back and learn from my mistakes. Your story is amazing bro. Hopefully y'all will get married one day with beautiful kids.
Any advice for me?
@@mosetaaj8206 call her and ask her out. Not as a friend. Tell her you want to be around her. Be honest. Communicate that to her. If she says you are her friend tell her you are not but don't hesitate to hang out with her and treat her right. I have every intention on marrying my woman. So I figured if I need to act as who I am, be patient. People in your life love you for who you are, she will see it if she's willing to put time in there to see it.
@@eddoreyes6168 Understand, this doesn’t always work (above tactics). In my case, the girl just moved on, got married, and now has kids. Never heard from her again.
Happy, for you, it ended up working.
Changing her paradigm. Make her jealous. Simples.
I. Never ever had this issue untill this one girl we've been close friends for years and she's scared from having very bad experiences from the past I can't get her there Everytime we close she backs out it's almost there I've never been through this I've given up and moving on just staying friends and when I did this she wants it and backs out again jheeesh!!!!!!
Below are the 2 sure shot ways of getting her -
1: Look handsome
2: Don't look ugly
Words that should never come out of a man’s mouth, “Amanda,I’ve been craving bubble tea...”
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂 absolutely should never!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Lol true
I’m in it to win it. Let me into that friend zone. I have a comfy seat I like.
My problem with No.2 is this: I have always been close with female friends more than male friends. Most of those I consider as “best friends” are actually females. Not that I don’t have male best friends. But my male friends are those I don’t need to hangout with all the time. Even if we don’t speak for weeks, months or years, we are still the best of friends. But with my female best friends, I hangout with them almost every week! Women just love to gossip and I always find myself involved. The question is, will women that I actually like,will only see me as a friend? Or the worse part is, she might even think I’m gay? Because I always hangout more with female friends & a part of gossip sessions?? Honestly, I don’t care what other people think but I just want to know women’s perspective on guys like me? What would be her impression about me? Or is it nice that she sees me comfortable surrounded by girls? I need answers/advice please.
I would say try to flirt and have more physical contact with the girl you like and some friends. Greet with a huge hug, lean on her, try to make it clear, and don't be too nice saying yes to everything. Try to be more sensual and more leader, less "nice friend"
omg I was feeling depress...down....since month or years....those videos wake me up!
I love being in the friendzone. It helps me get to use my hand more often than I would otherwise :)
Hiring escorts (if legal) is a way better option IMHO. It allows you to confidently show abundance and drop any desperation. "Friendzone me as much as you want, i don't care"
Tiege Hanley is the best thing on the market been using it for 3 days and my severe dry flakey face skin is gone. Will be putting it on automatic payment every month.
I suck with the social leadership aspect. I'm pretty awkward around people I don't know well.
I've attracted plenty of women though without this. But been in the friendzone too. You can't make everyone like you.
I usually attracted very confident women or women who were also socially awkward.
Thank you! Now i got a restraining order.
I was friend zoned a long time and I didnt even know it. Talk about having zero awareness to social situation! Once I finally smoked some good weed and reevaluated everything I saw it in a completely diffirent lens..
I'm glad I found this channel. I have been on the end of so many "you're a nice guy but" comments, it's just soul destroying.
I’m a true Sigma male! I think she observes how females check me out. She knows I’m determined and can handle myself. She knows I’m smart and driven involved in different pursuits and am great at it! She even seen how females are liked by me on social media . Her brother and I are involved in a business/hobby. I think I see some kind of interest but I’m going to test the water 💧 to see what might happen. She sees I got a lot of swag for an average height guy! Height is not a problem with me! Those tips don’t exactly work for me. I’m considered handsome but I try not to focus on that. I need a better plan! She also knows I’m not scared to publicly speak to a crowd in a convincing way! I’m wired differently!
I have the biggest crush on you Marni
Since my wife died ( was married for 15+ years ) I've been binge-watching your channel.
Thank you for the company, I appreciate you
Love from Michael
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You skipped some steps man
Where were you when I was in High School and college? Fantastic advice now that I am older and know a lot more about what attracts women to men.
She wasn't born yet.
What attracts women to men? I'm 39, and still have no idea. I'm tired of hearing the "confidence" bull$hit.
The "pseudo date" works best if actually set up as a "pre-date". It can be openly (or almost openly) communicated as such in most cultures. You suggest being unambiguous in step 5, but this can be done more or less in step 4 already.
Did all steps even without knowing about this video. And you know what? The sparks were flying! But you must put a lot of work into yourself and show her that you’re progressing, you’re changing in a good way.
It's disrespectful to chase someone who doesn't want you: she rejects my move then i ditch her instantly.
i lold at presenting "being the social leader" as so so simple.
Thanks! Marni
I wish I knew all this while hanging out with my last girlfriend
Now I'm moving on trying these new things and I've seen improvement
If she friendzones you, she is not worth your time and effort.
You’re the best, Marni. Thanks for your infinite wisdom.
Yeah, but did it work
For some reason people just aren't dating but I've been doing these things with a girl I know and I think she's starting to see me differently. To make it simple I'm being funny and charming and walking away like I'm really not that interested. To make it more interesting she has a daughter and I've been laying the charm on her too trying to create a buzz so she'll tell her mom that I'm a cool and funny and confident guy. Of course women don't ask guys out so she better come at me pretty hard because I'm not asking her out again unless I'm sure.
Step 2 is how I got in the friend zone to begin with.
tysm i won't break the right girl heart but i can't promise to not break those who broke me mentally
I had been doing some of those things and didn't know I was doing it it makes sense
I must've found a gem. I confessed my feelings and am a "nice guy." Yet I am not in the friendzone.....
Hi Marni, I wanna go from the friend zone to the end zone! I need to score a touchdown with this gal!
the chair she is sitting in was the most interesting part of this video
I've already gone through all those steps. We were roommates. Cooked together, hungout together, but she's 1/2 my age. I tested her attraction with a friend hug or two but only got the butt-out hug.
I haven't tried any of those steps yet
The butt out is not a good sign. 😂
WOW thats brillant the step when Marni said that you could tell about stories about other girls or flirt with her friend! Wow Mindblown!
Very good stuff. I relate to it because I'm very socially intuitive.
I worked with a woman for a year and casually flirted with her, touching her shoulder, her hair or her back
When Christmas came I bought her a really nice gift and she told all the girls we both worked with . Everyone knew that I wanted her, but I overheard her saying that she wasn’t interested in a relationship. A few months later I decided to quit that job and everyone wanted to know why except her
She was the last one to reach out to me and she said she was worried about me
I responded by telling her how I wanted to hold her and kiss her everyday
She texted back saying she wasn’t interested in anything but being friends
I told her, I understand.
That was 2 months ago and I haven’t heard from her since.
I’m tempted to call her because she has recently quit that job too and I found out that she’s working at the same hospital as me. I haven’t yet though
U tell her that neither one of u wants with the other person wants. So let's move on. Brake all contact with her. She will think of u and mostly will come back. Happened to me. The girl fiendzone me and I just said to myself that I was better off without her. After months she showed up at my house un announced and told me that she was crazy about me and wanted to do it all LOL so for me it was crazy as hell that what I wanted was in front of me.
Normally if I got friend zoned, Id just walk away and live my life. But I just got friend zoned today by my best friend, who had romantic feelings for me for a very long time. Unfortunately, I didn’t develop feelings for her until recently, so when I finally asked her out, she friend zoned me cuz she lost feelings. I was so sure we were gonna make it work and have a bright future, but nope. This is why I don’t talk to women
Dude. Not sure if you're young enough for me to call you dude. But... dude. I am sorry for the mismatched timing with your friend but the jump to "This is why I don't talk to women" is little bit dramatic, isn't it? Let me answer... it is. I am provoking you on purpose here because "not talking to women" will make you lose the opportunity to meet wonderful people, have a great time and, sometimes, even sex. Sure, some of them can be awful... just as some men can be awful. Awfulness distribution follows a normal bell-shaped curve in the population, regardless of gender.
Some of our experiences will be bad, some will be good. It's life. It has nothing to do with women. That mindset will only hurt you and prevent you from enjoying a significant part of life. Being scared of women or avoiding them won't make you happier, it will make you sad.
One time I made the mistake of sitting in the first row of a comedy show. The comedian pointed to me and asked how would I sum up my sex life.
I said infrequently.
He said is that one word or two words!
I'm in a mid-between zone. She reached back out less than a week after she broke up with me. Said she didn't realize how much she'd hurt and how much she'd miss me. We've been much flirtier and she's seen the confident and playful side of me (which was lacking early on). She asked me if I wanted to meetup next week as well as go to her parents for Thanksgiving. So, the semi-pullaway, show options, and pseudo-date are out. I'm at a loss on how to approach my situation.
Just do it. Go hangout with her and be genuine, don’t worry or think about how she feels about you or how y’all felt, have a good time with her and if the connection is there it’s there. If she broke up with you, and you don’t enjoy hanging out with her because she doesn’t seem interested anymore or you aren’t yourself, then it’s her loss. You obviously aren’t doing a bad job and don’t need to put on any act to be attractive because she wants you again. Just, as corny as it sounds, change your mindset and be yourself
There are a number of ways for a guy to escape the infamous "friend zone".
1. Show an interest, in another girl who is considered "hot". Once your "friend" sees that you are diverting your interest toward someone else, then your sexual market value will increase, at least in her eyes.
2. Take up a hobby, such as Judo, a foreign language, Religion, or Aviation, If she sees that you a passionate about something, other than her, she will want to date you, just so you can transfer some of that passion on to her.
3. Go to Graduate School, get a masters degree in IT, and get a job at Google, making a six figure income.
4. Wait for about 10 yrs, when your "friend" is over 30 yrs old, a baby mama, with 4 kids, 90 pounds overweight, and working at Walmart for $15.00 / hour. Now, that she has no other options, she will be falling all over herself to go out with you, in a heartbeat.
5. Win the Lottery.