Dataline's tips and tricks for live electronic music performance (shown on Elektron Model Samples)

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024

Komentáře • 144

  • @eddievanheinous666
    @eddievanheinous666 Před 5 lety +79

    Lots of hate being thrown on what is essentially an entry-level sampler, which Elektron has been knocked for not having prior. Damned if they do, damned if they dont.

    • @bobz1736
      @bobz1736 Před 5 lety +3

      Agreed but I think it's the cost that takes it away from being a genuinely entry level machine. Same as a couple of Volcas and Pocket Operators ... I'm happy with my Digitakt 😎

    • @domtak
      @domtak Před 5 lety +11

      It’s not a sampler, it’s a sample player...

    • @fernandomercado2711
      @fernandomercado2711 Před 4 lety +8

      At 299 now it's a no brainer.

    • @rizdraver
      @rizdraver Před 3 lety +7

      Some people don't have the imagination to understand the other types of musicians that are looking for a live performance sample player. Not everybody is striving to be a bedroom Four Tet, using the Sample as their main workstation or wanting a device to directly sample while they're on the subway. There are countless drummers and keyboard players out there that want to trigger samples live with their group while playing their main instrument. 6 pads is more than enough, probably overkill in most scenarios. The Sample is almost exactly what they're looking for - something to trigger with a brief finger hit, something your attention doesn't get lost in fiddling around with submenus and an overly complex interface.

  • @thesnipecatcher116
    @thesnipecatcher116 Před 5 lety +104

    I’ve purchased 3 Elektron machines so far. I’m assuming they are all defective units because I don’t sound like Cenk on any of them :)

  • @johnchesters81
    @johnchesters81 Před 5 lety +16

    This is a great video loopop, really shows the power of this little instrument in the right hands 🎧

  • @teebeedahbow
    @teebeedahbow Před 5 lety +27

    The hate is daft. Not wanting a Model Samples because you have an Octatrak etc is like not wanting a racing bike because you've got a beamer parked outside.

  • @MUNRO13
    @MUNRO13 Před 5 lety +21

    Even Cenk is annoyed by the lack of scale per track in their products. COME ON ELEKTRON

  • @WxkR
    @WxkR Před 5 lety +10

    If there is a virtuoso of machine music making, that is Cenk.

  • @Quantumedic
    @Quantumedic Před 5 lety +10

    I can't wait for mine. I already know how powerful this is going to be. The Volca Sample and Digitakt are dope. The Model Sample is looks to be a happy marriage of those two.

    • @jnny7182
      @jnny7182 Před 4 lety +2

      Quantumedic Music agreed

  • @ssmith2019
    @ssmith2019 Před 5 lety +4

    Good vid Loop . . . it's always nice to hear from Cenk and Elektron !

  • @lunarsatellitemusic
    @lunarsatellitemusic Před 4 lety +4

    This video showed me how to do everything I didn't know how to do on the Model Samples lol.

  • @snoopyoverthehills
    @snoopyoverthehills Před 5 lety +15

    i hope the scale per track feature will come to digitakt in a future update!!!
    sweet and inspiring video. thank you

    • @DexterPiano
      @DexterPiano Před 5 lety +1

      Hope too !

    • @AlamoBlend
      @AlamoBlend Před 5 lety +2

      Look at Cenk's face when he says "Octatrack had this, Model:Samples has it... [loudest silence ever]... and uh, yeah." I think there's a fleeting flash of "Should I say more?" in that look. Fingers crossed for some news on that one of these months - maybe after M:S has had a chance to market that feature.

    • @raedius_music
      @raedius_music Před 5 lety +1

      @@AlamoBlend says everything about how elektron have burned the people who actually support them. you can make awesome products but when you intentionally drop features for profits, you can go take a long walk off a short pier.

  • @JIDEHHIGHELEMENTS
    @JIDEHHIGHELEMENTS Před 4 lety +3

    this is one of the more deep tips & tricks video i saw about this machine , Dataline play it as it was a conventional instrument ! big up !

  • @PhilippeCroteau
    @PhilippeCroteau Před 5 lety +13

    I see I'm not the only elektron user exasperated by the lack of "scale per track" on their other boxes. Come on elektron!!

    • @lucianonotarfrancesco4443
      @lucianonotarfrancesco4443 Před 5 lety +1

      I think it is very likely that Elektron will add it to other boxes if users ask for it.
      Lately I've been puzzled about Korg giving microtuning to the Minilogue XD and not (yet) to the Prologue. I'm still hopeful it will come in a firmware update, but I think Elektron is much more likely to please us.

    • @fernandomercado2711
      @fernandomercado2711 Před 4 lety +5

      It's now in all boxes yay :D

  • @robertsyrett1992
    @robertsyrett1992 Před 5 lety +28

    Sorry Mario, Cenk is the master of demoing Elektron gear!

  • @tastelesstouch
    @tastelesstouch Před 4 lety +2

    You literally film a guy at a workshop and still manage to produce top notch videos!

    • @obdeisibcirrus993
      @obdeisibcirrus993 Před 3 lety

      For sure! Also gotta give credit to dataline (Cenk) for being dope af

  • @zipnone1996
    @zipnone1996 Před 5 lety +2

    always nice to see this guy in action. this groovebox looks like a solid entry-level piece of gear, I can see lots of people enjoying it. would be a great introduction to Elektron-style sequencing.

  • @maleficenthardware
    @maleficenthardware Před 5 lety +14

    Cenk could sell me anything really

  • @nyedamusic
    @nyedamusic Před 10 měsíci

    Man, I love this guy’s enthusiasm and passion! It makes me love my MS purchase A TON more. Thanks for this upload.

  • @Mode-7
    @Mode-7 Před 5 lety +6

    he's so bad ass, his exhibitor badge just says "Dataline"

  • @itwasthewires
    @itwasthewires Před 5 lety +7

    Thanks loopop. I am guessing there are quite a few less people sitting on the fence now. Dammit Cenk

  • @joshua0427
    @joshua0427 Před 5 lety +2

    Phew! I was getting worried having not seen Cenk in any of the Model:Samples demos.

  • @alchimerical2613
    @alchimerical2613 Před 5 lety +2

    THIS IS SO SO INTERESTING STUFF LIKE THIS ❤️

  • @Thedrumsthebass
    @Thedrumsthebass Před 3 lety

    This guy is the Goat on Elektron’s

  • @usemoreproduct
    @usemoreproduct Před 3 lety

    man i love seeing him have so much fun.

  • @WingHouseCup
    @WingHouseCup Před 5 lety

    So freaking awesome. Cenk is the master. I already own several elektron boxes and already want this one.

  • @LouisSerieusement
    @LouisSerieusement Před 5 lety +1

    Love this guy ! His music and the way he plays it are totally awesome !

  • @HustonSingletary
    @HustonSingletary Před 5 lety +2

    The f---king master at work. Cenk thinks 2 steps ahead..... while creating and building tracks and parts. Plus amazingly nice dude.

  • @DocBolus
    @DocBolus Před 3 lety

    Love this machine, superb for playing live and I have barely scratched the surface. This video certainly gives a few more ideas.

  • @JH-lo9ut
    @JH-lo9ut Před 2 lety

    I like the fact that the mic fails to pick up the bass but the camera does.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 2 lety

      to be honest my "proper" recording of this video got totally messed up

  • @markfontane1298
    @markfontane1298 Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing little dude. When it released, I didn‘t even inform myself about it, but I got one a month ago and now I‘m even considering getting a second one. Also, you can power it with a small portable usb battery pack when you get the right cable, which is pretty awesome, since it only pulls 2-4W.

  • @Nomo_Popo
    @Nomo_Popo Před 5 lety

    Props to Cenk for doing his best to sell this thing

  • @AMTunLimited
    @AMTunLimited Před 2 lety

    I love that the overhead camera is getting absolutely rattled by the bass

  • @gooneybird808
    @gooneybird808 Před 5 lety +1

    Dataline is just the coolest...really wish I could see him live

    • @gooneybird808
      @gooneybird808 Před 5 lety

      Also dude thank you for making this happen

  • @epigon1
    @epigon1 Před 4 lety +2

    After watching this, I had to run and buy one

  • @silverstream3d
    @silverstream3d Před 5 lety +1

    nicely done sir...am def thinkin bout gettin one

  • @aki_gong6271
    @aki_gong6271 Před 4 lety

    I had the chance to meet him at Sonar, What an amazing guy he is :)

  • @grandzmuzik
    @grandzmuzik Před 5 lety +1

    Really diggin that chance feature, scale feature looks cool too

  • @jamesthehacker8410
    @jamesthehacker8410 Před 5 lety +1

    I got mine today. I have no idea how you're doing any of this lol! But I'm excited to learn how. I wanted this machine for my drum programming. It's lighter than the octatrack and their other sampler.

  • @mochiboy420
    @mochiboy420 Před 5 lety

    This is the demo that sold me on the box.

  • @ikkini
    @ikkini Před 5 lety +9

    If only my DSI Tempest had that 'chance' function...

    • @nmc_music
      @nmc_music Před 5 lety +1

      Just a thought, if you own a digitakt you could use midi out to control the Tempest and use conditional trigs which has a %probability condition... that’s if you have a digitakt though. Or digitone!

    • @freak0n182
      @freak0n182 Před 5 lety +2

      @@nmc_music just a thought, if you had a digitakt you could just do it on that...

    • @ikkini
      @ikkini Před 5 lety +2

      I don’t. And don’t like to habe multiple instruments for a single task.

    • @dekalboy8816
      @dekalboy8816 Před 5 lety +4

      my dsi tempest is an 8 bars loops , and most of time the “ chance “ fonction is used to reach this 8 bar feel . combining 8 bars loop on 8 patterns , with 8 variations patterns ( 1 with 9 / 2 with 10 and so on ... ) and with the swap function you can use on the fly between bank A and B , I think you don’t need a “ chance “ tool to approach this . Just think DEEPLY about what the tempest can do without , like the exemple I am talking about .
      stay creative . news features on electronic devices will always happen , we just need to think what we can do with our machines instead of thinking about what we cannot do . at the end of that way of thinking , your wallet will be healthy and you will start to play like this great Cenk :)

    • @ikkini
      @ikkini Před 5 lety

      @@dekalboy8816 I agree with you about the fact that we have to learn how deep we can go with our instruments. But I've had an Elektron Rytm before the Tempest, I didn't like it, but was found of this trig conditions way of writing rhythms (it reminds me of a eurorack sequencer I loved that works on clock divisions and offset).
      Concerning your solution, I use the Tempest for live shows, so I need to have all the tracks in one project to avoid loading time (and loss of clock synchronization). But thanks for the tip.

  • @raevon6845
    @raevon6845 Před 5 lety +1

    In-depth review ...make it soon🐸🙃🕺🏽

  • @URRBANELEKTRO
    @URRBANELEKTRO Před 5 lety

    Cenk is a true master he can even make a mediocre product sound great..

  • @aytchess
    @aytchess Před 3 lety +1

    A masterclass in few minutes! I've watched this many times. CZcams should allow multiple likes.
    Thank you Loopop. Thank you very much.

  • @bendikbaksaasodin
    @bendikbaksaasodin Před 5 lety +1

    This is nice. Thanks man

  • @LamontStigler
    @LamontStigler Před 5 lety +1

    Sick demo!!!

  • @DJMizzy
    @DJMizzy Před 5 lety

    Your a goat for uploading this. That performance tho sold me on it.

  • @genebrady
    @genebrady Před 5 lety

    Chance reduction on all tracks would make SUCH A FANTASTIC addition to digitone/digitakt. Should be easy to implement, just hold midi and turn condition like anything else.

  • @nomad1517
    @nomad1517 Před 2 lety

    Amazing product, I hope they continue making this one, and do more updates in the future both hardware and firmware. It's good enough for the price, amazing workflow and its perfect for lofi hip hop, and its inspiring to use, its a piece of art as well. Its basically the Swedish sp 404, but mini version.

  • @InkyDaCaT
    @InkyDaCaT Před 5 lety +5

    Thanks Loopop, hope you enjoyed Namm, you doing a Namm Jam?

    • @solaryzer
      @solaryzer Před 5 lety +1

      Namm Jam thank you mam ? Hi inky :-P

    • @InkyDaCaT
      @InkyDaCaT Před 5 lety

      @@solaryzer 😝🙌😎Hello lol, have you heard his jams, lol 50 synths playing tubular bells😂😂😂

    • @solaryzer
      @solaryzer Před 5 lety +1

      At this stage i've actually heard everyone's jams !! Hope all okay there ,, snowing here in Ireland :-)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 5 lety +8

      Yeah I don’t jam with less than 30 synths ;)

    • @InkyDaCaT
      @InkyDaCaT Před 5 lety

      @@loopop 😂 There has to be someone crazy enough to dare😂😂😂

  • @sekaiology
    @sekaiology Před 5 lety +1

    Now I'm contemplating if I should get this or the Digitakt. Looks like it's way more fun to use live then the Digitakt and that "Chance to all" is really fucking great.

  • @RusticRaver
    @RusticRaver Před 5 měsíci

    great box, why not make update to get arpegiator?

  • @bobz1736
    @bobz1736 Před 5 lety

    And us mortals go "CLANK-BOOM-CLANK-BOOM-TISH"... Cenk is a god 😎

  • @frankschafer1505
    @frankschafer1505 Před 5 lety +15

    Elektron has all my money already. i'm going to skip this one

  • @DarksowlMusic
    @DarksowlMusic Před 2 lety

    sold :D

  • @trainmanification
    @trainmanification Před 4 lety

    Nice

  • @Wanttoknowabout
    @Wanttoknowabout Před 5 lety +6

    Great. Will you be doing an in-depth review on your own?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 5 lety +5

      Yes, but they’re not shipping just yet

  • @chatbury
    @chatbury Před 4 lety

    He’s having fun

  • @ijazzmunki
    @ijazzmunki Před 4 lety

    This box is a monster....

  • @johnnyraphaell
    @johnnyraphaell Před 5 lety +4

    Hmm no Audio in?
    Octatrack- no overbridge
    Digitakt- no songmode
    Modal samples- no audio in
    Whem comes the master box with all features? I would buy it!

    • @Dewingo
      @Dewingo Před 5 lety

      Don't forget the track scale - only on the cheapest box! x|

    • @markfontane1298
      @markfontane1298 Před 4 lety

      Gotta catch `em all! No seriously, every machine is amazing in its‘ own way and tailored for specific needs. Also, reduction enhances creativity.

  • @andrzejolejnik991
    @andrzejolejnik991 Před 5 lety

    not bad at all... I think that if I have a problem with getting more money , then I would probably buy this unit as it is fast to make live music and does a lot of glitch sound I love. Unless I buy the other stereo Elektron hardware this year, I have to stay happy with Digitakt - which is to me - super-small-portable -working on powerbank ,drum/synth-sampler composer on every journey always with me. I love it. Its worth lil bit extra... the con is its mono.
    ps. I see a lot of bad opinions about "Model"... I hope it's not gonna be the same like with Novation Mono Station - I don't see many users on CZcams pushing a thumb up button after watching their videos, nor ma y views... ,tho not like me as I have 2 units and want to buy a third one.
    Great video as always!

  • @alchimerical2613
    @alchimerical2613 Před 5 lety

    OK now I think it's cool. Still not sure about the price but it's cool.

  • @gorkemgulan
    @gorkemgulan Před 4 lety +1

    There is a chance that he likes the chance.

  • @lukebogacik2793
    @lukebogacik2793 Před 5 lety

    Tactile,,, ordering soon.

  • @thedrumunkey8582
    @thedrumunkey8582 Před 5 lety

    I wonder if using as a sequencer, all the encoders that would be used for sample manipulation could be used to send cc to mod the externally sequenced gear?

  • @valdiskrebs566
    @valdiskrebs566 Před 5 lety +2

    All demos of this box use only internal sounds... I wonder how useful the sequencer is for driving external gear(multiple sound modules)?

    • @linasmak9199
      @linasmak9199 Před 5 lety +1

      basically the same, tho don't forget that every track on model:samples is monophonic.

    • @WxkR
      @WxkR Před 5 lety +1

      Good point. I’m guessing it’s very capable, as it is the case with other Elektron boxes. To me, the biggest problem is that, as I understand, the midi tracks are not additional but replace the audio ones, so you cannot have more than six (compare that to a Volca Sample 8 voice polyphony!). With other Elektron sequencers the midi tracks are additional. I hope I’m wrong and that is the case here too because six tracks are very limiting. You could have bass, lead, chords and only three parts of percussion... on top, it also seems you cannot change programs to use several samples in the same track & pattern to create the effect of having greater polyphony. In sum, you’d need an additional sequencer for at least one of the parts (if you want a standard four parts percussion set).

    • @valdiskrebs566
      @valdiskrebs566 Před 5 lety +3

      (WxkR) Yeah, probably why they are not focusing on the sequencer. Those of us doing minimalistic /emergent electronic music can be happy with 6 synced mono tracks with some randomness.

    • @linasmak9199
      @linasmak9199 Před 5 lety +6

      @@WxkR you can overcome a sample p.locking limitation by just adding a longer sample on one track with various drums and p.locking sample start for every step with the sample you need...in theory :)

    • @WxkR
      @WxkR Před 5 lety +1

      Linas Mak good call, that seems possible here and might work in many cases. The minus with it is that it’d detract from the “immediacy” of the workflow advertised for this machine. In any case, the 6 tracks problem is not that terrible considering many synths today come with their own sequencer.

  • @indopleaser
    @indopleaser Před 5 lety +1

    wish didnt need a computer to upload samples. like an sd card slot. correct if wrong

  • @richnewman
    @richnewman Před 4 lety +2

    I need a good bass and drum machine to back me up while I play keys and sing. Will this fit the bill? I would think that six tracks for just drum and bass sounds would be enough, but I'm not sure. Anybody?

    • @ijazzmunki
      @ijazzmunki Před 4 lety +4

      Dude - this may be 'only' six tracks but every single trig can have a different sample on - so 64 x 6 - is not limited at all! I wanted a drum machine with extra capabilities and this thing smashes it - for the money the M:S is a monster - don't believe the hate - it rocks!!!

  • @josehaya6362
    @josehaya6362 Před 5 lety +2

    What’s the Minitaur doing there? :)

    • @Innocence44
      @Innocence44 Před 5 lety +1

      drawing all the dust from air onto itself

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 5 lety +4

      They were controlling it with midi on other demos

  • @cougarman8
    @cougarman8 Před 5 lety

    Within the first few minutes I saw this announced I was over the moon excited! I have all the Elektron boxes except the Monomachine and this one excited me more than any of them. It just seems so fast AND fun!

    • @raffitchakmakjian
      @raffitchakmakjian Před 5 lety

      sadly, Monomachine is the only one I've really REALLY wanted, but alas its discontinued.

  • @trevor4835
    @trevor4835 Před 5 lety +1

    For me, something I don’t think ppl include in the value of this, is the portability. They are coming out with a battery pack handle, I could take this thing into the barren wilderness! How is that not cool?

    • @Claidheambmor
      @Claidheambmor Před 3 lety

      Almost all Elektron products work with a USB power brick and Birdcord USB cables. Portable Octatrack. :)

  • @raffitchakmakjian
    @raffitchakmakjian Před 5 lety

    @4:38 haha! many would agree ;)

  • @atommachine
    @atommachine Před 5 lety +1

    Scale by track coming to digitakt watch this space ;)

  • @cvzzimo
    @cvzzimo Před 5 lety +3

    2:03 🤣

  • @MattGreerMusic
    @MattGreerMusic Před 5 lety +1

    Would love to hear Cenk's thoughts on the sequencer for the OP-Z.

  • @dnch
    @dnch Před 5 lety +6

    ok, so Cenk here just confirmed that scale per track is just by design crippling of digitakt features.. so yeah, thanks elektron

    • @DexterPiano
      @DexterPiano Před 5 lety

      What do you mean ?

    • @raedius_music
      @raedius_music Před 5 lety +1

      @@DexterPiano he means elektron purposely fuck their products for money and somehow think we dont notice - well its noticed and they are very close to losing their appeal.

  • @joemoran9607
    @joemoran9607 Před 5 lety +1

    I had no idea he was there. It seemed like he was trying to distance himself from the M:S

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 5 lety +3

      He was mainly doing the overbridge demos one stand to the right... - I prescheduled this with him so he kindly obliged

  • @fedesartorio
    @fedesartorio Před 5 lety +8

    Sound-generating gear is cheap and plentiful these days, Elektron should be doing a pure midi / cv performance sequencer like a swedish beatstep pro with tons of cool functions

    • @konradhausmann6359
      @konradhausmann6359 Před 5 lety +1

      See squarp hermod & pyramid

    • @fedesartorio
      @fedesartorio Před 5 lety

      Konrad Hausmann Is it really fast and intuitive? I considered it but I would love an Elektron sequencer with lots of knobs and as little menu diving as possible. I love my octatrack but a cheaper box with just the sequencing part and more knobs would be badass

    • @konradhausmann6359
      @konradhausmann6359 Před 5 lety

      From the Videos i've seen they seem to be quite fast. They obviously lack the knobs

    • @rumham9911
      @rumham9911 Před 5 lety

      The problem is MIDI has been a lackluster standard since its introduction with very little effort to remedy its flaws up until recently with the announcement of 2.0. Doing simple note on/off commands and such is fine but any demanding high resolution CC modulations and it will start to choke and cause too much latency to be of much use where timing matters, Elektron knows this and therefore sticks with internal sound generation first and foremost.

    • @NathanChisholm041
      @NathanChisholm041 Před 4 lety

      @@fedesartorio Its called cycles!

  • @dragonmodel9262
    @dragonmodel9262 Před 4 lety

    mine does not record like this.

  • @tendingtropic7778
    @tendingtropic7778 Před 5 lety

    so what does this one have that the analog rytm MK2 doesnt have?

  • @KahroSynetic
    @KahroSynetic Před 5 lety

    How many instruments can it control trough midi ?

    • @cepheid4288
      @cepheid4288 Před 5 lety +1

      6 midi tracks. So 6 Instruments

    • @flootymcdootymanooty9145
      @flootymcdootymanooty9145 Před 5 lety

      The midi and sample track share midi or audio that are interchangeable
      Like 2 midi 4 audio tracks and any combo

  • @zydiz
    @zydiz Před 5 lety

    2:07 come all the time ?

  • @ericcroupe
    @ericcroupe Před 5 lety

    If only you could sample into it 😭

  • @beepbeep2446
    @beepbeep2446 Před 5 lety +1

    Does anyone think any Elektron hardware unit additions have been a downgrade or an upgrade. I think trap sounds on this machine is the right way to go it just could have been so much better. Plus it looks ugly. That’s saying a lot since the Digitakt and the Octatrack and other box units looks so nice and have good capabilites