Divinity OS 2 - Definitive Edition: 2 Ways to beat Dallis & Bishop in Fort Joy (Honour Mode)

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  • ★ Spreadsheet Guide to Level 6 in Fort Joy: docs.google.co...
    ★ Note: incase you don't know, to avoid running into Dallis. Player can use the ladder to the right, it's the very platform i'm standing in the video, to get in and out of Fort Joy without triggering the encounter. Keep in mind, the moment you ventured in the Swamp, they will move on automatically, so make sure to keep the activity inside Fort Joy and fight them when ready.
    • As for the battle itself, once either Bishop or Dallis is reduced to half health, they will flee right away so you only need to focus down one of them. You will get some extra experience, Dallis unique Hammer and an achievement for winning the fight.
    ✎ 1st Method (00:11) : uses a magic focused party, with some touch of explosives you will be able to take them out rather quickly.
    ✎ 2nd Method (09:32) : is the easiest way to deal with this encounter if you started as an Undead or coop with friends who are Undeads. Deathfog can kill any livings in an instant.
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Komentáře • 284

  • @dennisuerling899
    @dennisuerling899 Před 6 lety +758

    I have to be honest, given the lore of the game, dropping Death Fog on Alexander feels right. :)

    • @buckhunt6832
      @buckhunt6832 Před 6 lety +2

      What's the lore?

    • @That_River
      @That_River Před 6 lety +43

      If I remember correctly, Lucien(Alexander's father) was the one who ordered Death Fog developed. He also used it on at least one occasion.

    • @dennisuerling899
      @dennisuerling899 Před 6 lety +62

      The corresponding lore is that Rivellon was in danger from the Black Ring. Lucian (Alexander's father) used Death Fog to kill all of the Black Ring. Unfortunately, a LARGE quantity was used and it was in Proximity to the Elf lands who were not warned in time to clear out. Oops!

    • @buckhunt6832
      @buckhunt6832 Před 6 lety +1

      @@dennisuerling899 wow. Feelsbadman.jpg

    • @generalnawaki
      @generalnawaki Před 6 lety +3

      alexanders dad ordered his army to use deathfog on an entire city of elves.

  • @grosslyoffensivelizard-man3438

    I love it when devs take this sort of creative problem-solving into account and not only make allowances for it, but put in dialogue to acknowledge the game world notices what you did.

    • @knifecrab9511
      @knifecrab9511 Před 6 lety +30

      Unless you use Deathfog to kill Alexander. Then the game just doesn't know what do.

    • @archaontheeverchosen7980
      @archaontheeverchosen7980 Před 6 lety +2

      Can I still Escape for Joy if I use death fog approach or does that mess up the game?

    • @knifecrab9511
      @knifecrab9511 Před 6 lety +1

      Adam Smith Yeah you can still escape. (SPOILERS) but alexanders dead body will be at the void worm fight, and the voice worm will attack you before you walk down the staircase with the shriekers

    • @pla6ue
      @pla6ue Před 5 lety +20

      @İntihar İpi And I'll be a dick for no reason cause I'm an asshole!...speaking of which. "Like no game has ever did that"..? Sweet education you've got there.

    • @Kujakuseki01
      @Kujakuseki01 Před 5 lety +2

      Grossly Offensive Lizard-Man everything possible has a route in this game. It’s unbelievably expansive.

  • @xelloskaczor5051
    @xelloskaczor5051 Před 5 lety +189

    Yesterday i tried your method that involved "some explosives".
    My mistake was that i decided "why use some explosives when i can use EVERY SINGLE (explosive, minus death fog ones obviously thats cheating) BARREL AVALIABLE UP TO THAT POINT". What i did not realise is that the blast will be so big it will aggro like entire entrance of fort joy, covering everything up to Lohse in fire.
    Worth it.

  • @metazare
    @metazare Před 6 lety +87

    The video was nearly over after the first part and I'm looking at the time left thinking "Wait the title says 2 ways? What could possibly kill the group faster?"
    I had no idea you could pick up a death fog barrel at the start, that's absolutely brilliant.

    • @GewalfofWivia
      @GewalfofWivia Před 5 lety +3

      This is hella late, but you could actually pick up 3.

    • @GewalfofWivia
      @GewalfofWivia Před 4 lety +1

      Here Hes The Game came out 2 years ago bruh. Telekinesis still works.

    • @xelloskaczor5051
      @xelloskaczor5051 Před 4 lety

      @Here Hes If you take your time (and its R-EALLY tedious) it can be done but its something u need to save and practice for, then after you do manage to pick them up u have to manually drag them with ya, and honestly whenever i do go for it i forget to take them to lady vengence anyways because most of the fights that you would like to use death fog on are against the undead (pretty much Alice Aliceson and sometimes i found mordus tedious after u land on the island your basic attacks are like deathfog barells so who gives a fuck)

    • @vincenth6949
      @vincenth6949 Před 4 lety

      @Here Hes not with telekenisis

    • @soydansogukcesme470
      @soydansogukcesme470 Před 2 měsíci

      no.. you can only get it when you have telekinesis without it you cant.. or you use mod/giftbag for faster running. otherwise no chance to catch it.

  • @GuardianSeyden
    @GuardianSeyden Před 5 lety +35

    Note: Deathfog can be grabbed just fine without being undead if you are willing to put 1 point into Telekinese

    • @LadMes
      @LadMes Před 4 lety +1

      Note: all barrels of deathfog can be grabbed even without putting 1 point into telekinese and being undead :D

    • @skoltr
      @skoltr Před 4 lety +1

      Get potato porridge and well rested for +3 str on any character and just click fast enough :-).

    • @LadMes
      @LadMes Před 4 lety

      @@skoltr or just use a barrel to go through the wall on which the door is placed=D

    • @soydansogukcesme470
      @soydansogukcesme470 Před 11 měsíci

      1 up to 2 Deathfog can be grabed. i managed 3 BUT the 3th is in your inventory BUT always comes destroyed when you try put it somewhere.
      1 easy achivable. 2 you have to be fast and have enaugh strengh ect.

  • @ShiroiAkumaSama
    @ShiroiAkumaSama Před 6 lety +44

    If you lockpick the door where you get the deathfog barrels instead of using the key you can easily even get two deathfog barrels. The event triggers much later then.

    • @xelloskaczor5051
      @xelloskaczor5051 Před 5 lety +1

      You can get 2 regardless, as long as you cast haste on yourself. Probably much more opportunity cost however since lockpicks are always on the deck to be found at least in DE, while haste takes up entire slot of magic. I mean its a broken spell, just not necessarily solo at lvl 1

    • @xavmanisdabestest
      @xavmanisdabestest Před rokem

      @@xelloskaczor5051 "easily"

  • @epiktrojan311
    @epiktrojan311 Před 6 lety +31

    Btw you don’t need to be undead to get the deathfog, in addition if you use telekinesis you can pick up two barrels.

    • @soydansogukcesme470
      @soydansogukcesme470 Před 2 měsíci +1

      no.. you can only get it when you have telekinesis without it you cant.. or you use mod/giftbag for faster running. otherwise no chance to catch it.

    • @epiktrojan311
      @epiktrojan311 Před 2 měsíci

      @soydansogukcesme470 you can grab a single one without telekinesis, just on the edge of the fog. You have to be so quick though

  • @SeanPaul3136
    @SeanPaul3136 Před 6 lety +259

    Who else is loving the new definitive edition?

    • @callmetravesty8762
      @callmetravesty8762 Před 6 lety +53

      Just abit.. way.. too much..
      Taking my sweet ass time, just finished act 1. Currently running around the Island making sure I've finished everything I can find.
      And I'm already thinking about my next playthrough skill/character wise.
      Rip my social life

    • @SeanPaul3136
      @SeanPaul3136 Před 6 lety +4

      Call Me Travesty lol I know what u mean dude. If u ever get stuck on certain battle add me I’ll join ur game to help. Have u tried any of the new mods for definitive edition?

    • @callmetravesty8762
      @callmetravesty8762 Před 6 lety +6

      @@SeanPaul3136
      No mods yet, just going through first time Vanilla if you get me, so havn't even looked.
      Have you seen Fextralife's Eternal Warrior build? I'm basically running that on the custom mc and it's doing pretty well, I've got living armor and decent life steal too.

    • @1612Orzel
      @1612Orzel Před 6 lety +4

      Its cool, except lone wolf nerf.. My friend decided to pass, when he saw that theres standard limit in stats and skills now.. And i have to play alone :(

    • @popcanman2
      @popcanman2 Před 6 lety +5

      @@1612Orzel your friend is just as lame as the Nerf then ! Lol

  • @purpleboye_
    @purpleboye_ Před 6 lety +60

    Deathfog solves everything

  • @Spinexus
    @Spinexus Před 5 lety +20

    This game is so insane! I never even thought about being able to kill them. XD

  • @kevvu_l
    @kevvu_l Před 6 lety +101

    RIP cat

    • @GledSoul
      @GledSoul Před 6 lety +12

      11:44 XD MEOOOWWWW

    • @soydansogukcesme470
      @soydansogukcesme470 Před 2 měsíci

      you have to go fast towards the cat so it does not die in fire or deathfog.. then teleport it in save place.

  • @unbeatable617
    @unbeatable617 Před 5 lety +12

    I managed to kill them by cheesing it a bit, I kept breaking combat to heal and then picking them off and breaking again
    I also teleported 1 person far away or got them stuck which also worked

  • @ThaCarterIsLegit
    @ThaCarterIsLegit Před 6 lety +19

    Hey man would love to see some new build videos after they made all the changes to the game and with the attributes capped at 40.
    Smart stuff, you got a sub out of me.

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety +9

      i'm planning to cover the non-LW builds first, then LW builds after so it should take awhile before the solo builds get updated.

    • @ThaCarterIsLegit
      @ThaCarterIsLegit Před 6 lety

      sin tee Thanks fam, look forward to your content.

  • @TheBlackmore2011
    @TheBlackmore2011 Před 6 lety +8

    There is the way for phys party to beat Dallis & Bishop inside fort joy without death fog. Ranger and necro-summoner do all the job. Teleport 2 corpses down, summon icarnate, begin fight with Corpse explosion. Teleport Dallis close to second corpse, use Corpse explosion on the 2nd corpse, sommon slime+supercharger and Dallis retreats and nockdowns her Pets. Then ranger do his damage, summon incarnate again if need to CC Pets. Some magister can climb to you party 'cause there's no oil surfaces to slow them, but melee fighter take them down easy.

    • @rooseveltborden6150
      @rooseveltborden6150 Před 5 lety

      How would u start with a crafted spell like CE without stats to use it this early

  • @PrideBornAmadi
    @PrideBornAmadi Před 4 lety +3

    It never lets me pick up the Death Fog Barrels. It always says “to heavy” even if I put everything into strength up to that point. But for some reason I can pick up the Death Fog barrel in Isbeil’s room way later in the game.
    The Death Wish strategy worked just fine though, so thanks. Still confused as to why I can’t pick up the barrel.

    • @austininmon7376
      @austininmon7376 Před 4 lety +2

      You have to have a point into telekinesis to pick it up.

    • @Axetheflurryofflames
      @Axetheflurryofflames Před 4 lety

      @@austininmon7376 Not true, you can pick up the barrels easily enough with some decent STR to start.

    • @SirUlrichVL
      @SirUlrichVL Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@Axetheflurryofflames Actually he is correct. Strength has nothing to do with actually picking up heavy barrels/crates/flower pots/big pictures of Alexander. All strength does is increase the weight you can carry before becoming encumbered. To pick up things that are above 60 weight (the weight poison/water/oil barrels is. Deathfog barrels are 95) you need at least 1 point in telekinesis.

  • @AzsG4m3r
    @AzsG4m3r Před 4 lety

    Thank u so much Sin, first u helped me on POTD on Tyranny, now i''ll follow dos2 guide :D.

  • @droe2570
    @droe2570 Před 4 lety +8

    Sadly, the death fog barrels were patched, and it no longer works. They become inert empty barrels once you leave the ship.

    • @Axetheflurryofflames
      @Axetheflurryofflames Před 4 lety +8

      What? The Deathfog barrels is actually the go to way of doing this even now. You either must have grabbed the wrong barrel, or simply mistook a normal barrel for a deathfog one, as I just got the reckoning from using one from the ship yesterday. Should also be noted, you don't actually have to be undead to even do this, as long as you are standing close to the door and simply bolt for the nearest barrel, you can walk up, grab it, and walk out before the others detonate... with haste you can even grab 2-3 if you route well... or simply clip out of the map and grab them without triggering the tentacle at all xD

    • @droe2570
      @droe2570 Před 4 lety +5

      @@Axetheflurryofflames I looked this up online, because I have personally had deathfog barrels stop working at a certain point. It seems they might get bugged sometimes and become poison or inert.
      I'll try it again some time.

    • @duck_t4039
      @duck_t4039 Před 3 lety +2

      @@droe2570 It's a pretty common bug with any barrel. You can check if it works by placing the barrel down again and seeing if you can pick it up again. It's a fairly common bug with the Deathfog barrels on the ship because of the timing for their explosion.

  • @4xfire1337
    @4xfire1337 Před 6 lety

    Just as an FYI if you are quick you can grab both DF Barrels and do this with any character.

  • @666lupine666
    @666lupine666 Před 4 lety +1

    a true tactician. Sin knows what the tools are and what they do.

  • @TheHandleOnYoutube
    @TheHandleOnYoutube Před 6 lety +15

    Lololol - ''Prepare some explosives.''

    • @xelloskaczor5051
      @xelloskaczor5051 Před 5 lety +3

      He really means some. If you get more, you will end up aggroing entire fort.

  • @bobbenson6825
    @bobbenson6825 Před 5 lety

    Heh. I Didn't know where else to post this, but I found a way to get the silent monks and Magisters in Fort Joy Harbor to fight each other instead of me. Cut the opposing numbers down nicely, cleanup was a snap!

  • @slanderaan8275
    @slanderaan8275 Před 3 lety

    Very much enjoy the creativity for the first approach.

  • @coipoboy
    @coipoboy Před 5 lety +2

    i played it a long time ago but i remember making a heavy chest in the ship and just drop it on dalis trying to save the lizard. i one shoot dalis but the lizar just dies anyways for no reason

    • @tufcat92
      @tufcat92 Před rokem +2

      It's a scripted event. Bypassing the animation doesn't stop the outcome

  • @Ultrabuu85
    @Ultrabuu85 Před 6 lety +11

    How hard is the game compared to the first game (enhanced edition, not played the vanilla one)?

    • @DUHHBUHH
      @DUHHBUHH Před 6 lety +24

      I''ve played D:OS 1 and the Enhanced Edition quite a while back, but it appears that it''s about the same difficulty. The game has become more predictable in that you now usually know if you''ll be able to afflict status conditions up front, which makes it easier to execute your plan well. The fights are a little harder from what I can tell, but because of the way armour works now, it's easier to make tactical assessments.
      Another thing to note is that Fort Joy is pretty much a different game than anything after. Because your characters will not have decent gear for quite a while and not exactly all the movement skills you''d want, some fights are really hard. Once your gear is in good shape, most encounters will be 'easy' if the plan you had in mind is good and works.

    • @dg19de
      @dg19de Před 6 lety +4

      I have all the achievments in D:OS EE and the 2nd game is much easier. Larian revamped the combat system completely and the armour system makes it into a nuke game. Burst dmg is key, break the enemies armour and then apply Crowd Control, presumably with Knockdown as Physical dmg is still way superior then Magical dmg in the DE. In the first game there was no armour but an offensive rating, a defensive rating, several instances of defensive attributes that made applying Crowd Control much more difficult than the simple formula "Break their armour and then CC them" like in the 2nd game

    • @BoxyBrown717
      @BoxyBrown717 Před 6 lety +4

      Depends on how well you know the mechanics of each game. I personally find the second game much more difficult because of the armor system preventing your party from locking up the opposition right away and the nerf to crafting.

    • @popcanman2
      @popcanman2 Před 6 lety

      The combat is less rng with the armor system so depending if you was dependent on rng Workin out for you in ever problem it Shouldn't be to hard to adpat too the changes in combat

    • @jairusstrunk94
      @jairusstrunk94 Před 5 lety

      feels about the same honestly. but more polished. I suggest grabbing a bunch of class mods to really vary up the gameplay.

  • @ShardtheWolf
    @ShardtheWolf Před 3 lety +1

    I'm certain sin tee knows this, but you don't have to be undead to get a deathfog barrel, even in definitive edition if you don't mind a bit of glitch exploiting. Go to the skull door on the ship, but don't open it. Pick up a normal barrel into your inventory, and push yourself up against the door. Drop the barrel on yourself, and then quickly click on the other side of the door. You'll walk right through without triggering the script that causes the tentacle to smash the deathfog open. Walk up, grab as much deathfog as you can carry, then use the remaining DF barrels to do the same trick and clip right back out.

  • @connorgallimore4883
    @connorgallimore4883 Před 9 měsíci

    Has anyone replicated this explosive chest approach in Definitive Edition since the patches a while back? And on console rather than PC? i have an identical ranger build as Tee, and made my stats/skills pretty close to his Lohse Intelligence mage. And im even playing on Tactician with a 4-man party. For the 2nd hit of the fight (the fire arrow that ignites it all), pre-buffing with Death Wish and Enrage, i cant even come close to the critical damage that Tee dishes with that fire arrow. I wonder if it was nerf'd so that either 1) Enrage no longer 100%-crits for arrow attacks, or 2) the explosion caused by the arrow & barrels isnt considered a critical hit, only the blast radius of the fire arrow itself. Very puzzled as to what im doing wrong here; potentially a number of other explanations

  • @rlira0908
    @rlira0908 Před 3 lety

    Unfortunately, the spreadsheet says "Let the encounter happen" on the first page with no indication about actually being able to fight them for 11,250 exp. It tells you that you can do that on the 4th page, when you've probably already let the encounter happen. If only I saw this video first >:(

  • @Vydonis
    @Vydonis Před 4 lety

    FYou can get deathfog barrels with telekenesis 2. Casting pets doesn't put you in combat. Using Incarnate Infusions doesn't put you in combat. Get on the tower where the dwarf monk is and make them all go into the field and keep chain casting incarnates and buffing them to win. I was level 6 before leaving the town, and that's killing the necro seller, the magisters, letting the boat magisters go and leaving the papa and flower girl. Also doggies in the training area lived too. Killed the slugs. Everyone with "All Skilled Up" had level 10 incarnates savescumming for rings, and reward chests. Cannot wait for warp infusion with that run. No main characters. (Steam folder, find the main file and open 4 instances of the game to make 4 custom characters on a LAN game). Will be doing 4 bone widows.

  • @gilgamesh3128
    @gilgamesh3128 Před 5 lety +3

    my technique for this fight is to block all the way with barrels and go to the tower, then kill them with a bow. but its very long to do

    • @PrideBornAmadi
      @PrideBornAmadi Před 4 lety +1

      Usually works unless that Archer Magister realizes they can shoot the barrels and boxes. That happened to me several times and completely ruined the fight forcing multiple retires over that one single guard.

  • @94kronos94
    @94kronos94 Před 3 lety

    It's possibile to grab all barels of death fog using a glitch that help pass clossed doors (if you don't open it they won't explode)

  • @jefthereaper
    @jefthereaper Před 6 lety +11

    Still strange its never explained why or how Dallis is a dragon knight (considering only dragon knights can transform in well... Dragons)

    • @nibbbbbr
      @nibbbbbr Před 6 lety

      wtf spoilers!

    • @jefthereaper
      @jefthereaper Před 6 lety +20

      nbbr you literally see it in this video, so its not like my comment could have spoiled anything you literally just saw.
      Dalise also has so much more, if you did not finish the game yet, then prepare for all the plot twists and turns.
      Nothing is as simple as it seems in this story.

    • @cxfxcdude
      @cxfxcdude Před 6 lety

      jefthereaper the Eternals "take many forms" Fane was described to have blue skin and eyes like looking at the nights sky, its not totally beyond the realm of reason that his daughter could have that form

    • @lukeauyeung4152
      @lukeauyeung4152 Před 5 lety

      @@cxfxcdude one fucker has blue skin, and the other is a dragon. I'm fine with eternals having those forms, just not that particular reasoning.

  • @Zoniuc
    @Zoniuc Před 6 lety +1

    what triggers her to leave ?
    i know going near her make her leave? (obviously going to the next act aswell)
    I was going to save her battle for last but when I came to the gate she gone
    i did pretty much everything and now all i got to do was board the ship
    did they change something in the definitive edition like level restriction or like going to a location trigger her flag?

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety +2

      as the video description said, venturing into the swamp will make Dallis and Bishop to leave on their own.

    • @Zoniuc
      @Zoniuc Před 6 lety

      AHh! if thats the case i've been doing it wrong this entire time. Thank you! and sorry for not reading the description.

  • @archaontheeverchosen7980
    @archaontheeverchosen7980 Před 6 lety +1

    Can I still Escape for Joy if I use the death fog approach? Just wondered if the game messes up since Alexander died so soon

    • @RealResas
      @RealResas Před 6 lety

      he does not die, you can see in the video that he teleports away

    • @jairusstrunk94
      @jairusstrunk94 Před 5 lety

      even if he managed to die he'll still be at the end just dead. or (knocked unconcious) as it were.

  • @anoobplays386
    @anoobplays386 Před 4 lety +1

    How do you get into the fort without triggering the dialogue? You aren't level two like when you arrive outside the fort.

    • @MrNiceguy910
      @MrNiceguy910 Před 3 lety

      You are when you save the people downstairs and kill the 2 voidwoken on the way from the beach. You go in sneak and put the barrelt in front of them and shoot it with an arrow :) Found that out myself btw! :)

  • @Panickypanda
    @Panickypanda Před 6 lety

    So just out of curiosity what happens to the act 1 story if you do this? I have done it before in the game preview on xbox way back but never got to the end of the act to see if it fucks with the story.

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety

      it won't affect the story later, except for a few dialogues from Dallis acknowledging your previous encounter.

  • @topkek4593
    @topkek4593 Před 6 lety +1

    the thing is you can actually take two deathfog barrels instead of just one ( by the way killing Grog the Troll with the second barrel could be a good option )

    • @topkek4593
      @topkek4593 Před 6 lety

      yeah that's why I love this game! it gives you plenty of ways to smash your enemies

    • @AzureDrag0n1
      @AzureDrag0n1 Před 6 lety

      I killed that Grog the Troll by constantly disabling him, running back and forth across the bridge with haste, hitting him from long range, going invisible, play dead, and teleporting. Eventually he died and he never hit me once as all his attacks instantly killed me in one shot. I only used 2 characters to do this and won on my second try. I did not have any stun though but cripple, blind, and slow work well enough. Necrofire keeps him from regenerating.

  • @robinorg1
    @robinorg1 Před 6 lety +5

    that is absolutely genius

  • @chrnokun88
    @chrnokun88 Před 6 lety +1

    So me and my friends followed the step by step spreadsheet link in the description and several of the things listed in it gives 0 exp. Is it up to date? Was something changed with the arrival of Definitive Edition? So far we're still on the boat at the start, we're just about to kill the voidlings and leave. And we're still not lvl 2 yet. This is because doing a succesfull persuasion with the two covering magisters in the locked room gave no exp. And opening death fog room gave no exp. Killing the two magisters with the fireball scroll gave no exp. So we've about 600exp behind "schedule" and we're starting to get worried we won't be able to reach lvl 6 before leaving fort joy. (We want to do the dallis battle before leaving)
    Anyone have any information on this?

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety +5

      the spreadsheet was made back in Classic Edition, but the steps there will still get you to level 6, most of the quest structures in Act 1 is the same as in Classic Edition, exp rewards can be different but the end result are more or less the same. Infact it's much easier to get to level 6 inside Fort Joy compared to back then, and overall level 9 by the end of Act 1 compared to old Edition, so you're not missing out anything.

    • @chrnokun88
      @chrnokun88 Před 6 lety

      Thanks for getting back to me on such short notice, this really helped us out with some confusion. And it's true, we're starting to experience that we're still on par with the spreadsheet when it comes to "when to lvlup" and we're not far from the point where we're gonna fight dallis and we're already past level 5 which is really nice. Thanks again :D

  • @volijay1019
    @volijay1019 Před 3 lety

    Sooooo I'm way too new to the game to catch what exactly went down. Some sort of chest break spell?

  • @Deepstinkt
    @Deepstinkt Před 6 lety +1

    Does killing Alexander and learning of Dallis' true form that early influence the game in the later acts?
    worm-fight, ship-fight, the island etc.

    • @alexandrecaron9840
      @alexandrecaron9840 Před 6 lety

      I don't think it change anything. In fact, he didn't kill both of them since they just teleport themselves away. He just beat them. I don't know about the ''Dallis true form''. They didn't explain it in my play. Plus i dont realy know why you would do that since they just leave except if you would like to have that extra XP killing the magisters and gheists but we cant see how much he got for that

    • @josephj6307
      @josephj6307 Před 5 lety +5

      If you kill ghiest here they dont show in the Vengeance to ambush you so just its an advance on xp if u kill them here.

    • @alexandrecaron9840
      @alexandrecaron9840 Před 5 lety +3

      Really? That's intresting. Thank you! ill try it next time :)

    • @xelloskaczor5051
      @xelloskaczor5051 Před 4 lety +1

      It influences loot you get from ship fight if u kill dallis there the second time, and if you kill kill Alexandar sometimes he bugs out and only his talking destroyed corpse waits at you with worm fight.
      The loot you get for killing dallis the second time is DISGUSTING for level 9-10 characters and i simply recommend not picking it up.
      Or if you do, sell it, i guess you earned the gold. You did not earn like 20 stats and 2 abilities.

  • @Asgardians3t
    @Asgardians3t Před 3 lety

    that or u can use the chest of doom by filling up the ornate chest u find in the prison underground and making it so heavy it will one shot everything

  • @thatsneakyneenja2595
    @thatsneakyneenja2595 Před 6 lety

    Cant you get all 3 death fog barrels if your fast enough? I remember that being possible.

  • @SeanPaul3136
    @SeanPaul3136 Před 6 lety +11

    Sin Tee you sir are a genius at this game. Lovely battle tactics.. Larian studios need to hire u to help the AI get better..lol

  • @aeonmaster7772
    @aeonmaster7772 Před 4 lety

    OPTION 3 just discovered still testing. (Barrel placement) Keeps cat Borris and story alive. Please confirm xp charts etc... Because cut scence plays out you may swap characters during cutscenes to get close enough for Borris quest to be completed if worried of aggroing into barrel later.
    Enter fort joy via side ladder and avoid initial pre kill of asura. Place barrel at the closed metal gate before the door to the main floor. This is their forced warp point so you can play out the cut scence with Asuna, keep Borris and the cat alive. Otherwise methodology is the same except you have to time it right to kill bishop and can be a bit buggy as he's dead bit still warped away so dallis didn't dragon out. Still testing.

  • @user-ht3ie2lk6h
    @user-ht3ie2lk6h Před rokem

    what is the difference between definitive edition and the normal one?

  • @julienrouche-lestonnat997

    I use the death fog. but i throw it manually, saving the teleport skill to move the 2nd shrieker in the death fog (more xp ? lol)

  • @enigmatic247
    @enigmatic247 Před 4 lety

    anyway to save the cat if you use deathfog tactic?

  • @SiNi5T3R
    @SiNi5T3R Před 6 lety

    How do you pick up the deathfog barrels without using the context menu (right click > pickup)

    • @LunarisKnight
      @LunarisKnight Před 6 lety +3

      By left clicking on them....

    • @SiNi5T3R
      @SiNi5T3R Před 6 lety

      I wasnt working for me like the 50 times i tried for some reason. But eventually i got it done.

  • @Fintastrophe21
    @Fintastrophe21 Před rokem

    If you kill Dallis' pets, are the still on Lady Vengeance later?

  • @clockworkdeity
    @clockworkdeity Před 3 lety

    And the cat still lived.

  • @josephj6307
    @josephj6307 Před 5 lety +2

    I dont think the df works anymore I've 3.6.30.9667. The barrel explodes as soon as its place on ground, not enough time to teleport it.

    • @Hoggaforfan
      @Hoggaforfan Před 5 lety

      Sadly same

    • @guilhermecatalao7801
      @guilhermecatalao7801 Před 5 lety

      Have you managed to fix it or was it really patched? I guess I'll try the explosive barrels instead :/

  • @InfamousKiddXD
    @InfamousKiddXD Před 4 lety +1

    What do you get for killing them

  • @jairusstrunk94
    @jairusstrunk94 Před 5 lety +5

    how does death fog hurt dallis when her character sheet lists her as undead just like fane?

    • @QseftJohn
      @QseftJohn Před 5 lety +1

      I think she just bails if she loose too many squad mates

    • @PsyrenXY
      @PsyrenXY Před 5 lety +9

      She also didnt want to reveal SPOILERS
      ...
      ...
      ...
      ...
      That she is an Eternal and thus immune to deathfog

    • @atlascz9245
      @atlascz9245 Před 5 lety +1

      @@PsyrenXY well i figured it out instantly. Remember you can examine

  • @liaknowles114
    @liaknowles114 Před 5 lety +3

    Wait, if you kill Dallis early, what happens on the final battle of the game?

    • @marcorossi8740
      @marcorossi8740 Před 5 lety +3

      She does not die. She can't die early. She just escapes when Alexender gets low health.

  • @MrTerletskyy
    @MrTerletskyy Před 6 lety +3

    1:45 the squirrel rides a skeleton cat? Wtf?

    • @ramue5749
      @ramue5749 Před 6 lety +6

      Sir Lora, he is a new mini companion for definitive edition, you can get him in the old version but you have to pay for him in definitive he is free.
      He is pretty funny but not anything substantial.
      His mission is to stop what he refers to as "the great acorn". Beyond that you will have to play for yourself.

  • @SpeedyNautilus
    @SpeedyNautilus Před 5 lety

    With the definitive edition, the deathfog barrels were too heavy to grab, do you have to have a certain strength?

    • @TsukadaHina
      @TsukadaHina Před 5 lety +1

      13

    • @SpeedyNautilus
      @SpeedyNautilus Před 5 lety

      @@TsukadaHina That would explain why my rogue can't grab it, thanks.

    • @enigmatic247
      @enigmatic247 Před 4 lety

      @@SpeedyNautilus late to party but you can also put a point into telekinesis at character creation, i had a undead mage

  • @Fr0st1989
    @Fr0st1989 Před rokem

    Don't have to be undead to get the deathfog barrel, you just need to use the Haste spell lol

  • @lostsoulltd
    @lostsoulltd Před 6 lety

    And where is old barricading highground way? Yes, NPCs now learned to break crates\barrels if they block ladder, but still with 2-3 spare ones it's not a problem.

    • @DUHHBUHH
      @DUHHBUHH Před 6 lety

      There is an ornate chest (it's unbreakable) near where you find Fane. You need teleport to access it. I assume they haven't learned yet how to move chests out of their way if they are unbreakable, but haven't tested this yet.

    • @lostsoulltd
      @lostsoulltd Před 6 lety

      No they are not, and only archers and fire mages (with searing daggers or fireballs) attacking objects directly when they block passages. Still even without unbreakable chest it wasn't hard with full caster party.

  • @marcellobuonaiuto4484
    @marcellobuonaiuto4484 Před 6 lety

    I am new to this game, just got my copy for PS4. What classes should I start with?

    • @diegoparragav.6799
      @diegoparragav.6799 Před 6 lety +1

      I think the more powerful class is the ranger but whatever is your choice you should not struggle to much.

    • @allmight5008
      @allmight5008 Před 6 lety

      2 handed knights, take warfare and scroundel at the beginning then take the pawn ability

  • @FrankyMermaid90
    @FrankyMermaid90 Před 6 lety

    The video and the comments were really helpful, now I have a really cool hammer that I can carry the rest of the game, thanks!

  • @DragonmindLai
    @DragonmindLai Před 6 lety

    You can get all 3 barrels if you barrel-step through the door instead of opening it or if you have maximum movement speed + telekinesis you can grab all 3 before they explode.
    Also if you want to not kill the cat afterwards you can just drop the barrel on the Alexanders side so the cat can go through the doorway still.

    • @asherphoenix5584
      @asherphoenix5584 Před 6 lety

      Barrel step?

    • @87087
      @87087 Před 6 lety

      Wasn't barrel step (noclip) fixed? I've tried it recently and it did not work.

  • @simbadas1234
    @simbadas1234 Před 6 lety

    are there any changes in the story if you do this? like the next time you meet her she says something, or anything like that?

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety +1

      no significant change to the story, only a small dialogue of her acknowledging yours previous encounter.

    • @jairusstrunk94
      @jairusstrunk94 Před 5 lety

      what if you used DF on the Lady Vengeance during malady's spell?

  • @kgon_channel
    @kgon_channel Před 5 lety

    You can pickup all 3 barrels of death fog without being undead.

  • @Saturn2888
    @Saturn2888 Před 4 lety

    What happens if you kill her in Act 1? Does it change the story?

    • @saschakling2906
      @saschakling2906 Před 2 lety

      She cannot be killed there. I one-shotted her with a chest and she instantly got invincible, turned into a dragon and retreated.

  • @kashashk
    @kashashk Před 6 lety +1

    I knew DF was still viable, I nabbed two so this should be fun... again :D

  • @Selvokaz
    @Selvokaz Před 4 lety

    So Alexander teleports away too?

  • @ronniechowdhury3082
    @ronniechowdhury3082 Před 6 lety +1

    Good tactics. Also as a rogue you can just sneak, go invisible and then backstab repeatedly even if you are level 5 here. It takes a while but is in keeping with the RPG mechanics

  • @TheBlackmore2011
    @TheBlackmore2011 Před 6 lety

    Why you did not grab elemental affinity for you mage? Why Pet pal?

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety +4

      for role playing purposes, wanted to see what Sir Lora (Squirrel) has to say.

  • @felipetorresschowantz9872

    Theres one more way , you put box inside boxes and go

    • @Route_2_V11
      @Route_2_V11 Před 5 lety

      this was the key for me, thanks dude! they just stand there and go rawr

  • @Sephystos3
    @Sephystos3 Před 6 lety

    Somthing change if u kill Dallis now ?

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety

      There are no changes to the story except a small dialogue of her acknowledging yours previous encounter.

    • @Sephystos3
      @Sephystos3 Před 6 lety

      Okay, thanks :)

  • @jeanpaim22
    @jeanpaim22 Před 6 lety

    Wow... sin... do you think DO2 are more hard in this version? Lone wolves build now struggles?

    • @Rainwulfz
      @Rainwulfz Před 6 lety

      Well 3 characters is not lone wolves

    • @sneakyguy4444
      @sneakyguy4444 Před 6 lety

      Lone wolves nerf was a bit too strong....capped at 40 of a stat now.

    • @jeanpaim22
      @jeanpaim22 Před 6 lety +2

      @@Rainwulfz i dindt say this 3 chars on video is lonewolf. Only asked if lonewolf mechanics struggles now. Text interpretation plz.

    • @DUHHBUHH
      @DUHHBUHH Před 6 lety

      I am still in the Hollow Marshes on DE, but my plan is to finish the entire area and recruit two more people just before I board the Lady Vengeance to at least be able to spec back to normal. I am already capped in my main stats because I''m level 7 with a bunch of Poly, so I can foresee my progress dropping to a near halt when I reach level 12-13 otherwise.
      So Lone Wolf is still great in my opinion, but quickly loses its appeal at level 8-12ish, depending on what stats you need.

    • @sv4rt
      @sv4rt Před 6 lety

      magical build probably sucks for lone wolfs cause there is no option of taking weapon skills like two handed/dual/etc. scoundrel/hauntsman is the only option to raise dmg. it is probably better to take summon lul

  • @kairndreamer2885
    @kairndreamer2885 Před 5 lety

    Huh. I just spammed restoration on her since she is undead, then promptly lost almost my entire party after achieving victory.

  • @DjediVibrations
    @DjediVibrations Před 6 lety

    Who is everyone's favorite Origin Character?

  • @LixxLixx
    @LixxLixx Před 5 lety

    this isnt a thing anymore right?

  • @ibrahimfehmihelvacoglu4965

    So what happens when Alexander die there?

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety +3

      nothing will happen, both will still teleport away, the fight does not affect the main storyline by any mean except a few dialogues with Dallis later acknowledging yours previous encounter.

    • @jairusstrunk94
      @jairusstrunk94 Před 5 lety

      and the nice hammer weapon

  • @xShakyor
    @xShakyor Před 6 lety

    Pc specs?

  • @etiennerouquier9442
    @etiennerouquier9442 Před 6 lety +1

    How could you reach LVL 6 or more without Having the lezard killed by Dallis before getting in Fort Joy ? I thought we couldn't miss this scene !

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety +5

      Check the description next time, here's a quick quote for you:
      • To avoid running into Dallis, player can use the ladder to the right, it's the very platform i'm standing in the video, to get in and out of Fort Joy without triggering the encounter. Keep in mind, the moment you ventured in the Swamp, they will move on automatically, so make sure to keep the activity inside Fort Joy and fight them when ready.

    • @reapordeath
      @reapordeath Před rokem +1

      @@sintee106 or if you're using the death fog, just make sure to stand in the death fog and use teleport to pull the poor blokes in to their death.
      So sad... anyways 🤔

  • @DjediVibrations
    @DjediVibrations Před 6 lety

    Sin whats the best party for Honour build in your opinion I meed to get better at the game but really want to beat honour mode I tried with the 4 man Lohse Fane Ifan Sibille and the Blood God Lohse.

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety +1

      • full phys team comp is still good and alot easier to manage than magical party, despite the changes, you just need to play around certain enemy evasion and put out more damage than previous version.
      • a safe team comp can be: a shielded summoner fighter, a frontliner rogue or 2-hander, 2 backline dps (ranger/blood mage)

    • @TheBlackmore2011
      @TheBlackmore2011 Před 6 lety

      a shielded summoner fighter with glass cannon like in your 1st video? shielded glass cannon frontliner? i am confused

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety

      • the shielded summoner as seen with glass cannon was meant to be a blood mage later, because not many necromancy spells are available in early game so she take summoning instead to deal consistent damage at early game then respec later.
      • shielded summoner fighter i mentioned above should be something like the magic summoner in this video, both focus on summoning, only with different sub focus on str/warfare physical skills for the fighter instead of magical.

    • @TheBlackmore2011
      @TheBlackmore2011 Před 6 lety

      3 points to streinght for grab death fog barrels?

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety

      10 str is still enough to grab a barrel if you have a point in telekinesis.

  • @Parra_Parra
    @Parra_Parra Před 6 lety +1

    I bought the pre-order version on PS4 and can't find Sir Lora on Fort Joy beach. Does anyone know why?

    • @Tentacl
      @Tentacl Před 6 lety

      On PC they had to patch it day 2 so he'd appear, not sure on PS4 tough.

    • @breadngravy3860
      @breadngravy3860 Před 6 lety

      Filip Damski
      I also got the preorder, though I think that’s irrelevant mate!
      I’m unsure if he always spawns in the same place, but I bumped into him either *immediately* before or after meeting the Red Prince, so it’s on that pathway.
      I picked the Pet Pal perk in char creation too, though, and while I’m unfamiliar if that has any bearing on his spawning & following you, it seems unlikely to me as I can’t imagine why he would follow you if you can’t have dialogue with him to begin with.
      ...YES, Quercus, I’m *quite* aware that for a squirrel I’ve ‘rabbited’ on rather excessively, but The Shield is remarkably primitive and requires thorough education for what to us is nothing more than basic knowledge!

    • @meximous2259
      @meximous2259 Před 6 lety

      You probably got a code for sir Lora that you have to use to download him from the psn store. I didn't preorder so I'm not %100 sure

    • @breadngravy3860
      @breadngravy3860 Před 6 lety

      Alistar D I sympathise with you so much lol, towards the end of the first act it becomes more or less impossible to keep him alive. I lost him in the Alexander fight.
      All I’ll say is not to worry too much about it.. 😉

    • @Parra_Parra
      @Parra_Parra Před 6 lety

      Thanks guys!

  • @johnturtle6649
    @johnturtle6649 Před 4 lety

    you let the cat die ... could have just teleported up to the tower with the dwarf dude ...

    • @johnturtle6649
      @johnturtle6649 Před 3 lety

      @Ze TheGame in any case the cat can be saved, i did it. and it gives you a unique ability if you do save the cat, so there is absolutely a reason to do so.

  • @inspav9584
    @inspav9584 Před 4 lety

    Method 3: cratemancer

  • @selecks6462
    @selecks6462 Před 6 lety

    Does she stay dead? And the game breaks? And how you got pass her on the first place

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety

      As i already said in the video description:
      • To avoid running into Dallis, player can use the ladder to the right, it's the very platform i'm standing in the video, to get in and out of Fort Joy without triggering the encounter. Keep in mind, the moment you ventured in the Swamp, they will move on automatically, so make sure to keep the activity inside Fort Joy and fight them when ready.
      • for your other question, major characters don't die till certain story points, that's why both have invulnerability status when they hit below half HP and run away. There are no changes to the story except a small dialogue of her acknowledging yours previous encounter.

  • @janisir4529
    @janisir4529 Před 4 lety

    Dallis is a dragon???
    Who would have thought that something this early on can spoil things...
    But like knowing this game, running into spoilers is good, because there are so many fights that are unwinnable without specifically preparing for them.

  • @mikemhz
    @mikemhz Před 6 lety

    But what happens if you kill Dallis?

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety +6

      both Dallis and Bishop is unkillable in this encounter even if they are reduced to 0 HP, they will still be alive and flee together whenever it's their turn.

    • @thecrow4129
      @thecrow4129 Před 6 lety

      In the first one of you kill SPOILER the medicine girl before she flees, she comes back as undead

  • @supportjp3865
    @supportjp3865 Před 4 lety

    Now . NPC more armor

  • @narutohamza26
    @narutohamza26 Před 6 lety

    Your level is high how that ??!

    • @elinope4745
      @elinope4745 Před 6 lety +2

      Avoid the scene using teleport. Get a waypoint past this part. Do other quests and stuff. Come back later.

    • @S3Cs4uN8
      @S3Cs4uN8 Před 5 lety +1

      you can climb up the ladder to the right of the gate and completely avoid that scene, they'll just stand there until you trigger it at some later point.

  • @j.d.simahan5014
    @j.d.simahan5014 Před 6 lety

    I killed everybody un fort joy in my first run. You can use rain and ice/bolt attacks to stunt a lot

  • @lerntuspel6256
    @lerntuspel6256 Před 4 lety

    Poor arhu

  • @perckmalice70
    @perckmalice70 Před 3 lety

    Death fog is so cheesy lol

  • @Giz78
    @Giz78 Před 3 lety

    2nd option black cat die

  • @D00M3R_MAVS
    @D00M3R_MAVS Před 6 lety

    this is nuts, ha ha.

  • @codygreyeyes1610
    @codygreyeyes1610 Před 4 lety

    Everyone cheesed it? I beat her with my build...

  • @Kat1kafka
    @Kat1kafka Před 6 lety +4

    can you make custom companions?

    • @sintee106
      @sintee106  Před 6 lety +4

      after Act 1, player can hire mercenary on board Lady Vengeance and tweak their stats/appearance through the Respec Mirror.

    • @Kat1kafka
      @Kat1kafka Před 6 lety +2

      @@sintee106 but they leave permanently once disbanded

    • @ThePeonable
      @ThePeonable Před 6 lety

      yes

    • @arctic_phoenix9936
      @arctic_phoenix9936 Před 6 lety

      @@Kat1kafka on the mirror you can tweak anyone something's you can change though is the red prince skin color, beast being a dwarf, sebille being an elf etc or their genders too I think

    • @detectivecolonel874
      @detectivecolonel874 Před 6 lety +1

      You aren't supposed to be able to, but if you launch multiple instances of the game using the .exe, they create separate profiles. You can then join your own room in character creation through LAN to build a custom party.

  • @Musique-Vixen
    @Musique-Vixen Před 4 lety

    Ne marche pas malheureusement. Alexandar garde une grande partie de son armure magique.