My First Stanford Math Tournament Problem

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    This problem is from the Stanford Math Tournament. The goal is to rotate the parabola y=x^2 so that the curve passes the point (5,0). I first thought to convert the Cartesian equation to polar but it was a bit too hard than it had to be. Check out the video to see how I did it. Also, there's the equation and the graph of the rotated parabola at the end of the video. If you want to see more math for fun videos like this, then be sure to subscribe 👉 bit.ly/3o2fMNo and hit the notification bell. #stanford #blackpenredpen #maths #math
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Komentáře • 564

  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  Před 2 lety +90

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  • @felipep9324
    @felipep9324 Před 2 lety +265

    I’m not sure anyone else has mentioned this but I came up with a really simple solution:
    Rather than making a circle, just create a right triangle with base x and height x^2 (height is y)
    This would seem useless, except that we’re actually given the value of the hypotenuse straight up. Its the distance from the origin to the point (5,0), so five.
    Now we have a right triangle with sides x, x^2, and 5
    From here we just use pythagorean theorem to create an equation for x-
    25=x^4+x^2
    0=x^4+x^2-25
    This is just a simple way to reach the halfway point in the video- from there just solve as shown

    • @pierrickbramberger4206
      @pierrickbramberger4206 Před 2 lety +4

      Same

    • @juanitome1327
      @juanitome1327 Před 2 lety +10

      Yeah it also seemed to me like he could’ve skipped half the blackboard with the geometric reasoning. The theta, x, x^2 triangle left the problem self explanatory. But he solved it like a madman, proving he does not only know how to solve this exact problem but any problem with an analytic approach and useful math tools

    • @flynncrean8107
      @flynncrean8107 Před 2 lety +4

      Ya I did exactly that then to find the angle did inverse tan f(x) / x which worked

    • @Agent-ic1pe
      @Agent-ic1pe Před 2 lety +10

      This is exactly the same as creating a circle, because the equation of a circle is found using a right triangle. x^2 + y^2 = r^2, it doesn't matter if you think of it as a right triangle or a circle.

    • @TeDynef
      @TeDynef Před 2 lety

      I am so great to see that. I thought of that sooooo fast and it will work

  • @BeastM140i
    @BeastM140i Před 2 lety +107

    Over the years you’ve grown my Love for mathematics! So much so, in fact, I’ve picked up a major in applied mathematics and physics while doing my degree in pharmacy. I very much appreciate your videos

  • @user-ot4rp8yn8r
    @user-ot4rp8yn8r Před 2 lety +213

    OMG I CANT BELIEVE I ACTUALLY DID IT
    I attempt to do the same way but I converted cos²θ to 1-sin²θ, then I assume I add a value 'a' in θ will make parabola rotate to that shape, so sub in quadratic in sine with θ=0, r=5 to solve a and I get 1.131 rad too.

    • @tgwnn
      @tgwnn Před 2 lety +10

      Yeah I don't know why he said it doesn't help? I thought he'd substitute r=5 and end up with a cubic equation or something

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 Před 2 lety +4

      @@tgwnn yeah, check out my comment about it if you want, but you can just do this:
      rsinθ = r^2 cos^2(θ), cancel 1 r, use cos^2(θ) = 1 - sin^2(θ), put r=5
      You'll get a Quadratic in sinθ, then you can solve for tanθ, using the fact that they are both positive as θ is acute, and thus tanθ = sinθ /√(1+sin^2(θ))

    • @drewkavi6327
      @drewkavi6327 Před 2 lety +2

      Exact way I did it

    • @MikehMike01
      @MikehMike01 Před 2 lety

      @@tgwnn it doesn’t help in the sense that it doesn’t make the problem easier

    • @tgwnn
      @tgwnn Před 2 lety

      @@MikehMike01 that's arguable right? I'd say it's a more straightforward way of getting the same equation so it makes it easier (in a way)

  • @glauberrocha2033
    @glauberrocha2033 Před 2 lety +42

    The first problem of your channel that I solved correctly is an unique emotion! Thank you, your videos are really helping me to improve my math abilities!

  • @Cyclone1024
    @Cyclone1024 Před 2 lety +39

    The polar form can also be used to solve this. Just add an offset to the theta of polar form equation, put r=5, theta=0 and solve for the offset and you’ll get same answer

  • @nikoivan2580
    @nikoivan2580 Před 2 lety +366

    Finally rotations. Now go for quaternions, and explain them for me so I can understand what that numbers are.

    • @tgwnn
      @tgwnn Před 2 lety +39

      Nobody understands quaternions lol

    • @ashwinraj2033
      @ashwinraj2033 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tgwnn same lol

    • @ChaineYTXF
      @ChaineYTXF Před 2 lety +1

      There are also books online and other videos, you know😁

    • @SimonPetrikovv
      @SimonPetrikovv Před 2 lety +34

      @@tgwnn 3blue1brown would like to know your location

    • @tgwnn
      @tgwnn Před 2 lety +5

      @@SimonPetrikovv I watched his videos (re-watched a little now too), and they're definitely very well done, and everyone should watch them, but I'd still say that it doesn't really come close to "understanding" them. It's still some scary frankenstein method that just works. But this is just my impression and my intuition, if yours works differently, more power to you :)

  • @Altyverse
    @Altyverse Před 2 lety +27

    You were my professor for the alg1/2 combo class at pierce I think 2014-2015! you were one of my favorites! I think I got a A in your class lol

  • @isaackay5887
    @isaackay5887 Před 2 lety +6

    Has my life really resolved to watching these kinds of videos in my spare/relaxation time before heading to my Analysis class?....😅😂

  • @itzmrinyy7484
    @itzmrinyy7484 Před 3 dny

    The way you made it seem like such a simple process doing things I could never have thought of. Amazing!

  • @Roman-cu7zh
    @Roman-cu7zh Před 2 lety +1

    This was a great problem! First I tried to find the arc length of the parabola until I realize that since it was a curved line the arc length would be greater than 5 at x=5. But then I used the circle method as well.

  • @SyberMath
    @SyberMath Před 2 lety +2

    Nice problem and a great explanation!!! 😍

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks, SyberMath!

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath Před 2 lety

      @@blackpenredpen No problem, man! I love your teaching style!

  • @Leo-gb1mo
    @Leo-gb1mo Před 2 lety +20

    At first i wondered why he's holding a pokeball, then i remembered it is a Mic.

  • @anshumanagrawal346
    @anshumanagrawal346 Před 2 lety +50

    My two solutions that I really like:
    1) Just like how he showed in the video, get r = sec(θ) tan(θ) , then substitute r=5 (you can think about this as rotation of axes, if it doesn't immediately make sense intuitively) , square both sides, use sec^2(θ) = 1 + tan^2(θ) , and solve for tan(θ) (you'll get a Quadratic in terms of tan(θ))
    2. (I already wrote a comment about this before watching the video, where I've explained it in detail)
    Imagine instead of solving in this situation, where the parabola is rotated, we rotate the parabola back by θ, and along with the portion of the x-axis that it cuts between the origin and (5,0), now this rotated line segment is a part of a straight line passing through the origin, so it's equation is of the form y=kx, where k is the slope of this line, which is also equal to tanθ, also note that k is a positive real number, as θ is acute. Now, using some standard Co-ordinate geometry and algebra, we find the intersection point of y=x^2 and y=kx, in terms of k, and now we set the distance of this point from the origin equal to 5, as by rotating, the length of the line segment (secant inside the parabola, I guess you could say) does not change. And after simplifying a bit by squaring and all that you get the same Quadratic in k, as you did in tanθ in the first way.
    (The Co-ordinates of point are (k,k^2), and the Quadratic in both cases (in terms of tan^2(θ), or k^2 in the second case, and not in terms of just k, or just tanθ) is of the form t^2 + t - 5^2 =0, solving which you will get t=(√(101)-1)/2, taking only the positive value of t)

    • @sr.tarsaimsingh9294
      @sr.tarsaimsingh9294 Před 2 lety +1

      I get yours comment; That's great that you written such long comment bro 🙏🏻🙏🏻;
      I want to discuss my idea in short; I am weak in such typing skills.

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 Před 2 lety

      @@sr.tarsaimsingh9294 ok, what do you wanna discuss?

    • @donc9836
      @donc9836 Před 2 lety

      HI. (1) no need to square, express in sine and cosine... you have your quadratic already

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 Před 2 lety

      @@donc9836 ok

    • @fantasypvp
      @fantasypvp Před 7 měsíci

      I would probably just multiply by a matrix and substitute in x and y to get simultaneous equations in terms of sin(a) and cos(a) then solve for a. seems like the most intuitive method off the top of my head (from the perspective of an A level further maths student)

  • @ammardian
    @ammardian Před 2 lety +6

    Ahh I see how you solved it. I solved it by making a circle of radius 5, and finding the intersection between that circle and the original equation. This gave me a point on y=x^2 that when rotated by an angle, would produce (5,0), from there I treated the point on y=x^2 that intersected with the circle as a vector from the origin to that point, I then treated the point (5,0) as a vector from the origin as well. From there I used the dot product identity to find cos(theta) and then find theta.

  • @tyathias8116
    @tyathias8116 Před 2 lety

    A great question for any calc student to practice such as myself, thank you

  • @kub8675
    @kub8675 Před rokem

    This is one of the first problems on your channel that I actually managed to solve

  • @FareSkwareGamesFSG
    @FareSkwareGamesFSG Před 2 lety

    What a great question! I paused the video, solved it, got off the toilet, and let me say: it was definitely satisfying!

  • @anindoadhikary4323
    @anindoadhikary4323 Před 2 lety

    Awsome . This is amazing. Though I am not good at math but this video made me smile . I watch ur video everyday its entertaining.

  • @hussainqadah6406
    @hussainqadah6406 Před 2 lety +7

    You could also use the polar form and set "r = 5" and solve for theta

  • @shadow-bm5wj
    @shadow-bm5wj Před 2 lety +27

    you could also do it by converting to polar,
    from 2:10 :
    r = sin/(1-sin^2)
    and r is just 5 in this case(since the rotated parabola crosses x-axis at 5)
    just solve for sin(thena) and we get
    sin(theta) = (-1+root(101))/10
    theta = 64.8

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 Před 2 lety

      Yes, we can also solve for tan theta from here, as asked originally

    • @Darkev77
      @Darkev77 Před 2 lety

      Why is r=5? r would be 5 only if theta was 0 no?

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 Před 2 lety

      @@Darkev77 why would r be 5, if the angle is 0, if the angle is zero, then r is also 0 because the only point on the parabola which is at an angle 0 from origin and x-axis, is the vertex of the parabola

    • @Darkev77
      @Darkev77 Před 2 lety

      @@anshumanagrawal346 thanks for the response! But isn’t theta=0 at r=5 (x-intercept)?

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 Před 2 lety

      @@Darkev77 You have to decide, are you analysing the case with the rotated parabola, or rotated axes?

  • @SimonPetrikovv
    @SimonPetrikovv Před 2 lety +58

    The way I did it was to put the rotated version of the cartesian plane on the original one (but labeling x' and y' on the other axis), then I saw that the angle between the axis x and x' was exactly θ, so I needed to use the rotation matrix like this:
    [x] = [cos(θ) -sin(θ) ] [x']
    [y] [sin(θ) cos(θ)] [y']
    Since in the x' y' coordinated system the point (5,0) is in the parabola, we can put (5,0) as the input (x',y') then we'd get (x,y) = (5cos(θ),5sin(θ))
    Since y = x^2, then we'd have 5sin(θ) = 25cos^2(θ) => sin(θ) = 5cos^2(θ) => 5sin^2(θ)+sin(θ) = 5(cos^2(θ) + sin^2(θ)) = 5 => 5sin^2(θ)+sin(θ)-5 = 0 => sin(θ) = (-1+-sqrt(101))/10
    Since θ is in the first quadrant, we'd have to choose + instead of -, so we'd get sin(θ) = (sqrt(101)-1)/10, since sin^-1 is defined in the interval [-π/2,π/2], then we can use sin^-1 since the sine is positive and we'd get θ = sin^-1((sqrt(101)-1)/10) and we're done
    If you're asking if it's the same answer as in the video, we can find cos(θ) from sin(θ) = 5cos^2(θ), which would be 5cos^2(θ) = (sqrt(101)-1)/10 => cos(θ) = +-sqrt((sqrt(101)-1)/50), since θ is in the first quadrant, then we'd get cos(θ) = sqrt((sqrt(101)-1)/2)/5
    Since sin(θ) = 5cos^2(θ) => tan(θ) = 5cos(θ) => tan(θ) = sqrt((sqrt(101)-1)/2), which would yield the same result ^^

    • @aghaahmed5946
      @aghaahmed5946 Před 2 lety

      how did u use the rotation matrix tho

    • @SimonPetrikovv
      @SimonPetrikovv Před 2 lety +3

      @@aghaahmed5946 if you rotate the axis by a angle of theta, having new axis x' and y', the relation between those coordinates are given by the formula I used there
      The thing was to make sure it was really a rotation of theta in the counterclockwise direction, which was the way I've choose to represent the two sets of axis to get the point (x',y') = (5,0) into the parabola
      But the way it was shown in the picture, you rotated the parabola instead of the axis, I just made things the other way around in other to use the rotation matrix

    • @SimonPetrikovv
      @SimonPetrikovv Před 2 lety

      @@aghaahmed5946 but if the question is how to get the rotation matrix (maybe without using linear algebra, only geometry), I can show you by sending a link to imgur with the explanation (which I have yet to write xD)

    • @aghaahmed5946
      @aghaahmed5946 Před 2 lety

      @@SimonPetrikovv like i know abt the matrix but i’ve never used it like this

    • @SimonPetrikovv
      @SimonPetrikovv Před 2 lety +1

      @@aghaahmed5946 neither did I! I saw the problem and thought it might've worked, and it really did! It was a nice trick in order to do this specific question xD

  • @m.venkadesen9037
    @m.venkadesen9037 Před 2 lety +1

    What a beautiful question

  • @marwanbasem193
    @marwanbasem193 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for that amazing video, I've already solved it.
    More importantly, I want to thank you for letting me know about this competition.
    Sadly, I won't be able to participate because I'm not a student at the USA, but at least I would be able to enjoy the problems.
    Thanks again.

  • @idolgin776
    @idolgin776 Před rokem

    I really like problems like this, where there is a visual trick/strategy to come up with the correct answer.

  • @strikerstone
    @strikerstone Před 7 měsíci

    Learned something new today :)

  • @s.a.chord4879
    @s.a.chord4879 Před 2 lety

    Definitely very cool to come look at problems after I understand the math behind the concepts so I can really know what is going on. This is literally just algebra with some trig

  • @samp-w7439
    @samp-w7439 Před 2 lety +1

    I never pause to do the problem, but today I did, and I got it right!!

  • @Juanni
    @Juanni Před 2 lety +1

    wow a bprp video I was actually able to solve using the same method as the one shown in the video!

  • @TeDynef
    @TeDynef Před 2 lety

    This is a very cool problem. I saw it instantly because of you

  • @sebmata135
    @sebmata135 Před 2 lety +2

    Using multivariable techniques, you can parametrize the parabola as r(x)= and so the vector that points to the point (x0,x0^2) that will end up pointing to (5,0) must necessarily have the same length as the vector namely 5. So ||=5 => sqrt(x0^2+x0^4)=5 => x0^4+x0^2-25=0. When you solve for this quartic by keeping in mind that x0 is positive, you get x0=sqrt((-1+sqrt(101))/2). You can then use the formula a*b/(|a||b|)=cos(theta) to solve for the angle

  • @empathy800
    @empathy800 Před rokem

    That was really easy to understand

  • @jocabulous
    @jocabulous Před 2 lety

    this is the first problem on this channel i was able to solve! (out of the ones i have watched)

  • @adityaadit2004
    @adityaadit2004 Před 2 lety +12

    Lmao this was what I thought when first learning about quadratic equation "I wonder if I can rotate this graph freely?"

  • @cubiee-sci6190
    @cubiee-sci6190 Před 2 lety +1

    Stopped the video to try it by myself. Did it almost the same way just a little different way to solve X^4 + x^2 -25 = 0. I liked this Math problem

  • @rageprod
    @rageprod Před 2 lety +3

    omg this is the first bprp question I could actually solve
    only difference from your solution is that I answered as the sin^-1 (because I dont like sqrt very much) but of course the decimal value is the same

  • @user-wu8yq1rb9t
    @user-wu8yq1rb9t Před 2 lety

    Thank you teacher

  • @cob-son
    @cob-son Před 2 lety +1

    wish they teached these cool tricks in my school

  • @user-qd7qz4pu1h
    @user-qd7qz4pu1h Před 2 lety

    great video as always

  • @angelo_pavan
    @angelo_pavan Před 2 lety

    I did it with complex numbers, but it's basically the same thing as you did, except for the idea of intersection between the circumference and the parabola. With complex numbers I just wrote that each point of the curve is w=|w|*cis(theta) and multiplied it by cis(-theta) cause the rotation is on the antitrig direction. I ended up with the same quadratic equation and solved it just as you did.

  • @hk_A01
    @hk_A01 Před 2 lety +1

    Oh, that was nice!

  • @sigsqrl
    @sigsqrl Před 2 lety

    I just found a video of yours where you found the integral of x^i, and after watching it, I became curious about what the derivative of x^i is, so I went looking, but couldn’t find a video on it. If you ever need a new video, could you do the derivative of x^i?

  • @parthibhayat
    @parthibhayat Před 2 lety

    Feeling proud to solve it

  • @cremebrulee2484
    @cremebrulee2484 Před rokem

    I could somewhat follow the reasoning for this. I’m learning!

  • @ayssinaattori9313
    @ayssinaattori9313 Před rokem +1

    I calculated it by finding the intersection point of the circle and parable. Then i calculated the distance between the intersection point and (5, 0) and used it to form an isosceles triangle inside the circle, with the base being the line segment between the intersecton point and (5, 0) and the legs being the radius of the circle. Lastly I calculated the angle using the law of cosines.

  • @justacityboy4426
    @justacityboy4426 Před 2 lety

    I understood about 3/4 of what was explained, but I still enjoyed watching this video

  • @drpeyam
    @drpeyam Před 2 lety +64

    Heeey it is a rotation matrix then! 😂

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 Před 2 lety +5

      Indeed

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  Před 2 lety +22

      I didn’t use any matrices.

    • @aneeshsrinivas892
      @aneeshsrinivas892 Před 2 lety

      I thought of that too.didnt realize the question wanted clockwise rotation and got a negative answer

    • @potatochips9019
      @potatochips9019 Před 2 lety

      I agree based on just looking, but I didn't know Sir Blackpenredpen here did a way simpler method.

    • @Anonymous-el6pv
      @Anonymous-el6pv Před 2 lety

      @@potatochips9019 Matrix is definitely more a simple way

  • @neilgerace355
    @neilgerace355 Před 2 lety +1

    4:04 Thanks for pointing that out :)

  • @wihatmi5510
    @wihatmi5510 Před 2 lety +1

    I thought about this in 9th grade for the first time and thought it should be trivial. Later I thought it was impossible because how a function is defined. Now I'm looking forward to learn how to solve it.

  • @mps_horizon122
    @mps_horizon122 Před rokem +2

    I used an alternate method that involves using a general formula (it gives the rotation anticlockwise though), xSin(a) + yCos(a) = (xCos(a)- ySin(a))^2. I subbed in the values given, x=5 and y=0 then, I rearranged to calculate the value of feta. Upon expansion on the right with the substituted values you get 5Sin(a) = 25Cos^2(a), take out 5 and then use trig identity of Cos^2(a) = 1 - Sin^2(a). You then get Sin(a) = 5 - 5Sin^2(a). I then solve it quadratically and get Sin(a) = 1 - squrt(101) all over 10. The answer I got was -64.8 degrees or positive rotation of 295.17.

  • @andypan4936
    @andypan4936 Před 6 měsíci

    I left-multiplied the vector (x,x^2) by the 2D rotation matrix, set the resultant vector equal to (5,0) and solved for x and theta (need to take the absolute value of the angle in this case since we are rotating clockwise). I got theta = arcsin((sqrt(101)-1)/10) by using the 2D rotation matrix.

  • @ashrafalam6385
    @ashrafalam6385 Před 2 lety +4

    You can use r=sec(θ)tan(θ). If the angle of rotation we want is a, then the new rotated graph is r=sec(θ+a)tan(θ+a). We need this to go through the polar coordinate (5,0) so substitute r=5 and θ=0 to get 5=sec(a)tan(a). Multiply through by cos^2(a) to get 5cos^2(a)=sin(a). Use cos^2(a)=1-sin^2(a). 5sin^2(a)+sin(a)-5=0. And then use quadratic formula to solve for sin(a) and then arcsin and we are done!

    • @Beginning497
      @Beginning497 Před 7 měsíci +1

      So , we get theta = arcsin[(-1plus or minus (101)^1/2]÷10....?

    • @Beginning497
      @Beginning497 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah I got the the same values....

  • @ancalagon3154
    @ancalagon3154 Před 2 lety

    I solved this one by realizing that the secant intersecting the parabola at the origin and (5,0) would have the same length in the original position, so I just calculated the coordinates and used tan^-1 - very similar to what you did! :)

  • @bigfloppalover1321
    @bigfloppalover1321 Před 2 lety +1

    I have no idea what he said but I love it!

  • @TimeFadesMemoryLasts
    @TimeFadesMemoryLasts Před 2 lety

    OMG, this was so simple. I am definitely out of shape... When I was in school I probably would have thought about the intersection with a circle (if I had any idea) but now my first thought was using a rotation matrix... damn...

  • @mcNakno
    @mcNakno Před 2 lety

    Your english is really, really good for being (I assume) from China. And your enthusiasm is contagious.

  • @arekkrolak6320
    @arekkrolak6320 Před 2 lety

    this is surprisingly easy for a tournament problem, just a simple calculation with quadratic equation and some trigonometry :)

  • @wavingbuddy3535
    @wavingbuddy3535 Před 2 lety +1

    Very nice video as usual 👌

  • @alexdixon265
    @alexdixon265 Před 2 lety +13

    The way I solved it was imagining a circle of radius 5 in order to find out where it intersected the unrotated parabola because that would be the corresponding point on the rotated parabola. Then I simply set up the equations
    y=x²
    x²+y²=25
    Got the intersection point and took the inverse tangent of the x value

    • @foxtrot8325
      @foxtrot8325 Před 2 lety +1

      Wouldn't you take the inverse tangent of y/x? Like so: arctan(y/x) ?

    • @farrattalex
      @farrattalex Před 2 lety +1

      This how I did it. I find this approach rather elegant and quick.

    • @farrattalex
      @farrattalex Před 2 lety

      @@foxtrot8325 Since y=x^2, you get phi=arctan(y/x)=arctan(x)

    • @alexdixon265
      @alexdixon265 Před 2 lety

      @@foxtrot8325 Originally that’s what I was going to do, then I realized because the parabola is defined by the equation y=x², which means arctan(y/x)=arctan(x²/x)=arctan(x)

    • @ammardian
      @ammardian Před 2 lety

      I did this too because I haven't really done polar coordinates. I added extra steps and treated both points as vectors from the origin, where I took the dot product cos(theta)= (a dot b )/ mag(a)*mag(b), and took the inverse of that to find theta.

  • @MathAdam
    @MathAdam Před 2 lety +103

    I didn't pause and try. I'm soooooo ashamed!

    • @omjoglekar3677
      @omjoglekar3677 Před 2 lety +12

      I did ! Check out my solution and tell me what you think. Which is better ? Mine or bprp's ?

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  Před 2 lety +28

      No worries 😆

    • @joe4582
      @joe4582 Před rokem

      And now with x^4 and N1= 0 N2=4

    • @wobushini709
      @wobushini709 Před rokem +1

      I did, and it was pretty complicated because I had to discover what rotating a graph actually means
      I ended up solving a trigonometry equation: 5*(sin teta)^2 + sin teta - 5 = 0
      So I kinda understand why you didn't try

    • @MichaelOfRohan
      @MichaelOfRohan Před rokem +1

      Everybody poops

  • @krishgarg2806
    @krishgarg2806 Před 7 měsíci

    i used a bit lengthy and calculative method. I assumed a parabola tilted at an angle theta and used its property PS=PM to define the locus and then use the point (5,0) to get a trignometric equation.

  • @enigmayah9080
    @enigmayah9080 Před 2 lety +3

    Your Energy is damn good!!!
    Will you solve JEE Advanced Maths questions?(Toughest exam in the world;)

  • @benwang2454
    @benwang2454 Před 2 lety +6

    The way I went about solving this is to realize that the point being rotated to (5, 0) is a distance of 5 from the origin. Using 5 = sqrt(x^2+y^2) you can solve for x, and then solve for y.

  • @pablosarrosanchez460
    @pablosarrosanchez460 Před 2 lety +2

    This is how I did it:
    In the second graph, notice the point (0,0) (vertex) and (5,0) are 5 units apart. I just had to find in the first graph which point was 5 units apart in straight line from the vertex of the parabola (0,0).
    By Pythagoras: x^2+y^2=5^2=25, and substituting x^2=y (the function), I got to y+y^2=25 : y^2+y-25=0, whose positive solution is [-1+sqrt(101)]/2
    We know from the function that y=x^2=[-1+sqrt(101)]/2, so x=sqrt([-1+sqrt(101)]/2). Now the line that goes from the origin to the point (sqrt([-1+sqrt(101)]/2), [-1+sqrt(101)]/2) is just y=([-1+sqrt(101)]/2)*x
    We can define the slope of a line (its derivative) as the tangent of the angle it forms with respect to the origin, such that: tan(α)=sqrt([-1+sqrt(101)]/2)
    Applying inverse tan on both sides, we get that α=arctan(sqrt([-1+sqrt(101)]/2))

  • @amolkhandare4667
    @amolkhandare4667 Před 2 lety

    Thank you sir ❤️❤️

  • @sylowlover
    @sylowlover Před 2 lety

    I did this using matrices, and it ended up being a lot longer than your method! But one advantage is i was able to find out, if you use a parametrization (t, t^2) and plug it into a standard rotation matrix, along with your theta working, there is a second solution of the form pi-theta, and the t value where the intersect occurs will be -5cos(theta).

  • @oussemamasmoudi4877
    @oussemamasmoudi4877 Před rokem

    you have a great channel . i love your contant

  • @redauraforlife
    @redauraforlife Před 2 lety

    Great video

  • @johnhillier1019
    @johnhillier1019 Před 2 lety

    I had a similar solution except I used sin(θ) = y/5 = x^2/5 at the end rather than tan(θ). Saved an extra square root.
    Enjoyed the question.

  • @tombratcher6938
    @tombratcher6938 Před 2 lety +1

    Saw the still, got the equation for tan theta exactly as shown, wondered what vile sorcery would enable you to calculate theta from it, and... oh

  • @cuno6341
    @cuno6341 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm really grateful for your work, I use your videos to pass college lol. Can I ask why the group playlists on your home page is gone? The playlists of ODE was very helpful because it was arranged

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  Před 2 lety +1

      I am very sorry. I am re-organizing all my channels these days. If you need help, please let me know.

    • @cuno6341
      @cuno6341 Před 2 lety

      @@blackpenredpen Wish me luck sir! hahaha, its finals week.

  • @iamstickfigure
    @iamstickfigure Před 2 lety

    I got it! Sweet. I didn't actually write out all the work to get the answer, I just had an idea, so I paused the video to think about how I would generally go about solving it, and convinced myself that it would work. And it turned out to be the exact same steps you took. Lol

  • @kenhaley4
    @kenhaley4 Před 2 lety +1

    Yep. That's how I did it! I thought it's easier to rotate that point up to the parabola rather than the other way around. Same angle either way.

    • @javiernasser3574
      @javiernasser3574 Před 2 lety

      Exactly, its more simple to just rotate the axes and then just get x²+x⁴=25 where tan (ø)= x

  • @shlokjain5214
    @shlokjain5214 Před 2 lety

    Please make videos other questions questions of this paper too

  • @exponentmantissa5598
    @exponentmantissa5598 Před 2 lety +1

    I like that. My first intuition was to draw a circle of radius 5. Then I have 2 equations and I can solve.

  • @amyk5428
    @amyk5428 Před 2 lety +1

    Imo the question becomes pretty easy once you understand and visualize the turning of the graph..
    Instead of rotating the y=x² graph...its better to rotate the axis instead...since both are relative to each other the angle of rotation would remain the same..
    so basically we'll get a triangle with hypotenuse as 5, one side say x² and the third side being x..

  • @1ncandescence737
    @1ncandescence737 Před 2 lety

    OK, I was just doing a complex analysis problem where I was asked if the graph of a complex function is a parabola and I thought it is a tilted version. And this showed up!

  • @Lexyvil
    @Lexyvil Před 2 lety

    I didn't know it was possible to rotate functions. Neat~

  • @itsphoenixingtime
    @itsphoenixingtime Před 2 lety

    The general formula for getting a point (r,0) by rotation is rotating the angle arctan( sqrt [ -1 + sqrt(4r^2 + 1) / 2]) degrees. (though i didn't find it out by myself, i referred to your video, and then used a general value x^2 + y^2 = r^2

  • @quinnv.3499
    @quinnv.3499 Před 2 lety +1

    I ACTUALLY DID IT WITHOUT WATCHING THE SOLUTION!!! Im so happy :)))

  • @jimboli9400
    @jimboli9400 Před 2 lety

    Yesss, I managed to solve it using the pythagoras method!

  • @spyguy318
    @spyguy318 Před 2 lety +1

    I solved it by setting up the triangle you showed later instead of the circle, then using pythagoras to get the same equation as the circle formula, 25 = x^2 + x^4 and then solved from there

  • @foxtrot8325
    @foxtrot8325 Před 2 lety +1

    Just rotated the number 5+0i anticlockwise by angle θ like so:
    ( 5+0i )( cosθ + isinθ) = 5cosθ + 5isinθ
    Now y = x² so 5sinθ = (5cosθ)²
    So, 5sin²θ + sinθ - 5 = 0 and solving by the quadratic equation(and ruling out the one wrong root) we get:
    θ = arcsin( (√(101)-1)/10) = 1.131 rad =64.82° (approx)
    This is the reason I *LOVE* Complex Numbers.

  • @magnifico_joven7063
    @magnifico_joven7063 Před 2 lety

    i don't understand a thing but i love these kinds of videos.

  • @harshkashyap8583
    @harshkashyap8583 Před 2 lety

    I SOLVED IT!!
    Simply I take a parametric point on the parabola (t/2 , t^2/4) So , tan@=t/2.
    Using distance formula, equate distance of parametric point from the origin equal to 5. This will give us value of t.
    using t tan@ can be calculated.

  • @boltez6507
    @boltez6507 Před rokem +1

    To do this we can first find how to rotate a point(using a right angled triangle) then its darn simple , plug in the result in the equation to rotate the parabola by any arbitrary angle(however take care of anticlockwise and clockwise rotation),then we can put in (5,0) in our equation then find the angle satisfying our equation

  • @starsun7455
    @starsun7455 Před 2 lety

    I assumed that y=i*x^2 by setting the y-axis as the axis of an imaginary number.
    A point on the function is an imaginary number x+i*x^2, so
    I tried to find the real solution x of (x+i*x^2)(cosQ+i*sinQ) = 5+0i.
    x=2.12719 and Q=1.1313rad, same result.
    This will be the same method as the rotation matrix.
    I learned a lot from this lecture and thank you.

  • @mnek742
    @mnek742 Před 2 lety +15

    At 2:45 I totally disagree, you totally could've used r = sec(theta)tan(theta) to solve the problem by setting r =5, solving for theta and a little minor adjustment... nice idea though!

  • @svee6904
    @svee6904 Před 2 lety +1

    Another great method is by axis rotation. For an observer on the parabola, if I were to rotate the parabola clockwise by theta then it would appear that we're rotating the axis anticlockwise by theta. As we know, in case of axis rotation, the new y coordinate
    x(n) = x(old) cos t + y(old) sin t and y(n) = -x(old) sin t + y(old) cos t
    Plugging in x(old) and y(old) as 5, 0 we get:
    x(n) = 5 cos t, y(n) = - 5 sin t
    now, all this has to obey is the parabolic equation if it is to touch the parabola (ie: y = x^2)
    25 cos^2 t = 5 sin t
    solving for t we get 1.131 radians!

  • @aaronroach2604
    @aaronroach2604 Před 2 lety

    At a glance. I would find the point on the graph y = x^2 that is of distance 5 from the origin. Then you will get a point (a,b) and have a sort of circle of radius 5. Then you have a triangle with base a and height b, and you can use inverse tangent to get the angle

  • @ONS0403
    @ONS0403 Před 2 lety +2

    The problem becomes really trivial if you also visualize rotating the axis of symmetry of the parabola. That right angle triangle pops right out.

  • @0cx688
    @0cx688 Před 2 lety +8

    I am a Japanese university student.
    At first, I thought that theta = 45° just by looking at it, but when I saw the video, I was impressed. Thank you for your easy to understand English!

    • @BillyBob-wh4sq
      @BillyBob-wh4sq Před 2 lety

      Now I'm curious. What would the x- and y-intercepts be if we rotated the parabola by exactly 45 degrees?

    • @hejkanaklejka1021
      @hejkanaklejka1021 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BillyBob-wh4sq
      x = r cos(theta)
      y = r cos(theta)
      put that in y = x^2
      r sin(theta) = r^2 cos^2(theta)
      sin(theta) = r (1-sin^2(theta))
      r sin^2(theta) - r + sin(theta) = 0
      set theta = 45°
      r/2 - r + 1/sqrt(2) = 0
      r/2 = 1/sqrt(2)
      r = sqrt(2) so after rotating y = x^2 by 45° we will get (sqrt(2), 0) point.

    • @hejkanaklejka1021
      @hejkanaklejka1021 Před 2 lety +2

      Another way is to calculate intersection point of y = x^2 and y = x, so we have (0,0) and (1,1) (lets ignore the first one).
      If we rotate y = x by 45°, then every point (a, b) will become (sqrt(a^2+b^2), 0), so by puting a=1 and b=1 we are getting the answer.

    • @BillyBob-wh4sq
      @BillyBob-wh4sq Před 2 lety

      @@hejkanaklejka1021 this makes sense, thank you very much!

  • @noahali-origamiandmore2050

    I know that to do a clockwise rotation, you replace x with xsinθ + ycosθ and replace y with xcosθ - ysinθ. Then I plugged in 5 for x, 0 for y, and solved. My answer was θ=arcsin[(-1+sqrt(101))/10] which is also about 64.8°.

  • @johnlocke2694
    @johnlocke2694 Před 2 lety

    I just solved for the intersection between the parabola and a circle of radius five with x^2=sqrt(25-x^2) and then solved for x by subbing t=x^2 and using the quadratic formula. Then I just used inverse tan on the y over x values from the previous solution to find theta.

  • @muriloarakaki2364
    @muriloarakaki2364 Před 2 lety

    great stuff.

  • @alexunder3165
    @alexunder3165 Před 2 lety +1

    I also thought about finding the point of intersection with circle with radius 5. Then I thought dealing with sin/cos/etc. is too much for me, so it would be easier to find a ratio between the perimeter of the entire circle and the part of the perimeter between the point of intersection with parabola and x-axis. It would result in a ratio between 360 degree and the angle in question. Then the question transforms into finding the length of the part of the perimeter (I think there is a word for it, maybe it's called sector or segment) between 2 points on the perimeter. At this point I couldn't see an easy way to calculate it, so I gave up.

  • @chsimhachalam9740
    @chsimhachalam9740 Před 2 lety

    Sir please do a video on relations and function..please

  • @noahbatterson8591
    @noahbatterson8591 Před 2 lety

    I used 5 as a triangular hypotenuse, then found a data point that gave 5 on the function y=x^2. Roughly 2.125 and 4.5156. Found the angle between them. Then 90-phi gave our theta as 64.8

  • @mk-ue9hn
    @mk-ue9hn Před 2 lety +1

    This funny dude is doing cool videos 👍

  • @sheppsu7353
    @sheppsu7353 Před 2 lety

    The way I solved it was representing only the right side of y=x^2 with x=sqrt(y). I then found a line that starts at (0, 0) and intersects a point on x=sqrt(y) so that it has a length of 5. I found the x and y points by starting with x^2 + y^2 = 25 and sqrt(y) = x. I then derived y + y^2 = 25 which can be represented as y^2 + y - 25 = 0. I used the quadratic formula to get y = (sqrt(101)-1)/2. From there I found x by plugging it into x = sqrt(25-y^2). Then the answer is y/x and the angle is arctan(y/x).