Math Hoffa & Vlad Argue Over Taxstone & Troy Ave Beef that Ended with Banga Dead (Part 21)
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Math Hoffa touched on incidents of violence in the music industry, including a confrontation where Troy Ave allegedly sent Banga to attack an unsuspecting victim on stage. Math Hoffa defines the incident as an act of defense for the brand that feeds all artists, given the criticism and potential threats to their work. The controversy surrounding Troy Ave's Makonnen freestyle and the subsequent violent reaction exposes a division in the hip-hop community over the issue of territoriality and ownership of beats and lyrics, highlighting industry tension and the potential for further conflict among artists. As the discussion continues, the pair reflect on decisions made and their potential impacts on artists' careers and reputation, particularly in the context of battle rap. - Zábava
Yo is Math the first to bring the drum set to life during an interview 😂
My dumbass use to think it was a backdrop 😂
Math think he slick wearing that MMG hat on Vlad show even though he has no ties to MMG 💀
DJ Yella actually played with the drum set during his interview. It was pretty dope.
Facts
@@504Treyhow u know??
I’m not a Math Hoffa Stan, but he won every round of this 13 minute verbal sparring match. Call it like I see it. 💯
No he didn't
@@thadonjuan2339 👍🏾
I love math hoffa as a battle rap AND podcaster. Don’t agree though. Troy should be charged with felony murder. When u try to make an illegal move and someone dies in the process, even if it’s your homie killed by an opp or a cop, the law says ur responsible for that person dying. Makes perfect sense
He ain’t win shit he just in his feelings because his friends got clapped because troy bitch ass sent him to attack the wrong nigga
Exactly
Math Hoffa just earned a new fan. Not afraid to speak his mind and will call you out when necessary. The media world needs more people like this.
Math is also mad bias
He's a little too self righteous for my liking. It seems like he thinks his opinion is gospel. I mean his history of getting into fist fights in rap battles speaks for itself. He undermines other people's opinions if there different from his own.
Whoa! Slow your roll...READ BETWEEN THE LINES!!! Math is from the same neighborhood as Troy Ave and would eat a bullet before he goes against him...especially if he was beefing with the same dude as Troy Ave was...also he knew Banga, the man that Taxstone killed in self defense. Vlad is bias because he was buddies with TaxStone and Troy Ave has treated his life multiple times. Those were 2 men arguing with plenty of bias.
That "woke Hoffa" shit only works for the My Expert Opinion fanatics...not the ones who already knew of Math due to battle rap. He's just as grimey as Vlad is, just different actions.
amen too that
@@21street-erfication90 facts
Math is 100% correct. Whether it’s biased or not. Why show up to somewhere that makes you feel uncomfortable? Why go somewhere that makes you feel the need to bring a weapon? There’s levels to life. 💯
Super biases
You are talking like a street dummy. Most of the USA citizens do not think like street dummies. So that street dummy bs is only accepted in the hood. Not in the real world. I know you heard this saying: "Sticks and stones make break my bones. But words should never hurt me." IDGAF wtf Tax said. No one should assault him over words, tough talk, etc., unless they plan to go to prison/jail or deal with self defense weaponry. Also, Tax had a right of freedom to go anywhere he wants. No one should assault over words.
Tax was looking for trouble, that was his whole life's mission, that's why he lost an eye, and vlads too ignorant to admit it
This is why I don’t like Vladimir! He knows Tax was wrong but his ego won’t let him admit it smh 🤦🏿♂️
You don't like him but support his content. Yea, that makes sense
He said Taxstone was wrong dummy. Learn to listen
Then he tells Math that HE has an excuse for everything Troy does.... As if he's not doing THE EXACT SAME THING for Tax. The hypocrisy. 😂😂😂😂
Yet you’re here 😂😂😂
@Awbskure3am Exactly thats what I'm saying. Hate is just misplaced admiration. People on the internet proved that to be right every day.. Lol
Math Hoffa standing on business. He definitely got my respect after this 1.
Side note: Math wearing a MMG hat on Vlad TV is INSANE 😂😂😂😂😂 Next level top tier trolling
😂😂😂😂 I was saying the same thing
Dawg, I was wondering why he was wearing that, you just reminded me of that incident lmao. Holy shit
@@bringinthedope5929what incident
@@Dabbindavid Rick Ross and his crew beat Vlad up over a decade ago and Vlad filed a 4 million dollar law suit. Math wearing a MMG hat , a label which Rick Ross owns, is pure troll shit 🤣.
Vlad was emotional the entire time, s/o to Hoffa for exposing Vlad for being manipulative & biased on his platform.
@aboutmillions Word. U can tell with some of vlads responses, he sat back in his chair like “nope 😤😑” as tho his emotions wouldn’t let him hear shit out. Already had his mind made up. Even with the “it doesn’t matter!!!”
Like Math is never emotional or bias 😂lol cut it out
Finally someone speaking the truth on this whole situation
About Time.
Troy actually spoke about everything in details.
Vlad is bias toward Tax cuz he hates Joe Budden and Tax pressed JB before.
And still talks shit about JB till today behind bars so Vlad is just riding that’s shit. These are facts.
What truth this guy started talking about how he had a dream Troy ave got a gay punched in the face and y’all tryna talk for him it’s crazy
If Vlad don’t like you. He won’t just not talk about you like any real person. Instead he’ll keep talking about every negative thing to your name
Except Ricky Rozay 😂😂
Lol yup same thing he does with Kayne 😂
Wont even make logic. He's like a scorned bish
As he should. Why would I praise someone I don’t like?
He also loves Tax so Ave is in for a lifetime of Vlad slander 😂
“He never said anything bad about me” that’s the entire point for Vlad.
By far best interview that has Glad stuttering 😂😂
“What do you think he was there for ??!!?!?!”
Glad: *talks in circles*
Vlad didn’t you just criticize Dame Dash for talking over people 🤦🏾♂️
The chain from the dream represented Tax’s position in the podcast game.
Was Looking For This Comment
Safe to say this will be Math’s last time on Vlad 😂😂😂😂
This is one of the best examples I've seen in all of Vlad's videos of him being confronted with his own bias. He talks time after time about people's actions not being worth the consequences. Implying that people, sometimes people he's interviewing, are stupid because they do things without caring about the consequences and he's somehow smarter because he "would have done this or would never do that." In this clip basically did the same thing with Taxstone and Vlad refuses to call Taxstone on the stupid decisions he made that night and the years of actions that led to it.
You seen it too huh 🤣🤣🤣
buddy started talking about a different state
I’ve been saying this since the beginning. Yet he claims he’s a journalist and wants to be like 60 minutes….I swear this dude wanted to sleep with taxstone or some shhht …
But yea Math really gave him the Math this time
Factsssss 💯 math put it to him perfectly 👏🏾
Thanks Math!😂
Vlad you cant go back and forth with someone who was in a actually beef with tax and someone who actually lost extended family in the incident. You have no right.
Right no matter who he or we thinks was right or wrong it doesn't matter. Math is actually deeply connected to the situation.
He brought a weapon in a green room full of women. Nuff said!
Math related to banga
Agree on a thousand fr . Vladimir tapped for even saying some
Vlad has 0 self awarness
I've watched Math do & say some wild shit during his battle rap career but to see this growth is beautiful. Salute to Math Hoffa🫡
I know u only referring to him snuffing diz 😂😂😂😂😂
@@mr.makedonija2627 Hell nah, that nigga has a rap sheet of bullshit😆
@@mr.makedonija2627 I bet you hide your meth in your ass just so the cops can play in it when they search you 😅
@@mr.makedonija2627 you worried about rappers while wyte catholic priest treating little WyteBoys like Gay Adult movie stunt doubles 😅
@@mr.makedonija2627 you just a transgender CZcams avatar with a blank profile pic,😅
Math Hoffa is 100% Right ✅️
False
Vlad your off on this! Math is right and Tax got exactly what he was looking for.
yeapppp 😂😂
Facts
Yep 35 year 😂😂😂😂
Math was a bully in the battle rap field. Sucker punching little dudes. I’m not saying Tax was right, I’m just saying Math is the wrong person to be speaking on bullying.
BIG FACTS!! Gma saying.. 💯You get what your looking for!! 🤣
(Stop messing with them bees.. Ok, NOW your ass is stung MULTIPLE times!.. You get what your looking for!! 🤣 BIG FACTS!! 💯)
Vlad tells the SAME STORIES all the time, he was mad Math wasn't agreeing 😂
I bet Math Hoffa wearing a MMG hat on Vladtv went over your head. 😂😂😅
“That’s a home invasion” 😂😂😂
Vlad cannot come to terms that his man is DEAD WRONG in this situation. His ignorance caused him 35. Can't go back in time and do different . Salute Math for keeping it FACTUAL.
You can’t put yo hands on ppl n control the outcome
Are you zooked. Troy ave rolled with 20 mans to confront tax, attacked him first. The man let off got rushed got his gun taken point black period. You would let 12 mans run up on you who you know you have beef
@@grams213 Troy was scheduled to perform! Tax went there looking for trouble. He gambled and lost. Plain and simple. Tax should have minded his business and stayed home!
Banga was dead wrong for punching some random nigga you don’t know because he talks shit online about your friend. Yall can’t tell people how to react that’s why taxstone was fully prepared to defend himself he always said he would do exactly what he did if people try to jump him . Ignorance is on Troy and bangas part . You see a guy you have problems with alone and he not backing down any real street nigga know he got it on him . Troy thought cause he ain’t get in with it nobody else did so he felt comfortable sending his mans
@gamecrazyoo1 . So why did Tax go to the concert strapped knowing Troy and his known 'hitter' to be there?? You avoid confrontation. Not run head first onto it. When keeping it gully gets you 35....
MAN I BUST OUT LAUGHING WHEN MATH HIT THE DRUMS LOL
Peace buddy ✌️😩
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 PEACE DUMMY
😂😂😂
Yooooo😂😂😂😂 i always thought the drum kit was a greenscreen background until math just hit the cymbal😂😂😂
“Ive interviewed mike Tyson and I thought he was gonna fight me” 😂😂😂
Vlad we think we don’t see he only throw shade at people who don’t like em or speak against em…Who he think he be fooling??? 😂😂😂
Who he gonna throw shade at people that like em?
And here you are watching and commenting
@@davidbarnes4742 here for Math ain’t nobody come to hear the culture vulture fake wanna be down ass stories Otis
He do that to people he don’t like till they run down on him and he want to sue black men for they riches cause we he a pussy stay talking on street shit and he not from the streets
@@davidbarnes4742 glads fans all love saying this when u find an issue with his interview style^
Nobody cares about Vlads opinion enough where he has to start arguing with his guests
MATH REMINDS ME OF ME WHEN I ARGUE. NO STONE UNTURNED. ANALYSIS EACH SITUATION. BIG UP MATH
😂 LOL!
Sounds like a female not a man lol
You ain't math you goofy internet fanboy
You can’t spell analyze.
Sus
My respect for Math Hoffa went all the way up after this clip .
I thought the background was green screen until Math slapped the cymbal
Vlad is low key saying Banga got what he deserved and Taxtone didn't.!!! ....Which is Ridiculous.
He kinda did tho. You put your hands on somebody you can't control their reaction.
He punch him in the face in florida Tax would of walked away
He Got EXACTLY what he Deserved.
@@youngcity4241 not true. A black Ex-con gang member in Florida is not getting stand your ground for shooting someone who punched them.. maybe a middle aged white man like Vlad, but not a young aggressive black man. Florida prisons are full of Taxstones. Look how hard Travis Rudolph had to fight his case and they actually had guns and jumped him
Look at all these hard dudes in the comments 😂😂😂 hard dudes that can't fight 😂😂😂 Americans are so scary. Nobody wants a humbling but everybody wants to be super tough. If Taxstone was down for a fight, he would be a free man today. Very simple. But everybody saying banga got what he deserved??? Scary Asses 😂
Math is 100% right on this one. Tax got exactly what he was looking for that night. It is a sad situation all the way around as Tax had a bright future in podcast and someone lost their life when this whole situation could’ve been avoided.
Also, this interview makes Vlad look so ignorant as he is taking all measures to defend Tax even when it contradicts views that he has preciously shared in other situations.
No he not I was their buddy came looking for problems and got smoked
@wavegodjay4940 you’re skipping over the fact he went to the concert strapped up as if he knew he was gon run into them and it would be problems. If you’re that scared to face the people you speakin on stop speakin on them or don’t go places where you know they gon keep the same energy on you. He wouldn’t have came in lookin for problems had tax not started problems to begin with
@@MentalPhysicality I believe that tax was strapped everywhere he went. It was no exception to this event. Don’t try to insinuate like he was strapped up because he premeditated this.
@wavegodjay4940 if TI and Troy Ave were close or doing business, this is an event he knew he was gon probably run into him. and even if tax kept it on, you not keepin it on you for no reason
Taxstone wasn’t the aggressor though
Vlad has permanently removed the cymbal from the set after this interview.
This was actually a good back and forth debate... but Math took it with what he said at the end. Game. Set. Match.
When math hit vlad with the "what you here for" it really hit him
💯💯
On god.
I love when ppl can’t hide their biases
Math: "You'll fistfight someone, right?"
Vlad: 😶😶😶
Math you can’t have it both ways, support one bully because you’re cool with him. The other bully you talk about, because he talked about you. Stop it Math
Vlad saying Math got an excuse for everything when HE making wild excuses for Tax based off his negative interactions with Troy Ave. Tax brought that energy and literally had it since he got to social media. Crazy how Vlad ignores that part
I got so much respect for Math after this interview
2:43 why MATH said "taxstone" lip talk so.....quiet 🤫🤐 😂🤣💯
Wtf do a home invasion got to do with anything 😂😂
Lol..I knew Vlad was gonna say "I interviewed Tyson ..he wanted to fight me"
This is the second time I seen Math slap that drum next to him,and it's the best shit ever 🤣🤣🤣
Math is needed. I have to give Vlad credit for letting him speak the truth on the situation. Thank you!
If NYC allowed concealed carry, Tax still wouldn’t be allowed to cary as a felon. And even if NYC did allow concealed carry and Tax wasn’t a felon, he still wouldn’t be allowed to bring it into a performance venue. And if by some happenstance he was allowed to bring it into a venue two people other than Banga were shot. The law in NYC would have had to change 3 times over for him to have a valid self defense argument. I’m just calling it how I see it
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
That is NYC politics.Had it been a different state, he would have walked.
@@elliot2177most states don’t allow felons to own firearms
Do they truly enforce it?@@MosheXX
@@elliot2177I’ve only lived in two states idk. But if it applies to an incident where 3 people were shot and one person died I’m sure it would be
Imagine if Glad said “Don’t bang my fuckin drum bitch” 😂😂😂
I’d win the lotto before that happens lol
Naaaah son😂😂😂
I understand Math not liking Taxstone, but defending Troy Ave is crazy lol
Exactly
Ok, and vice versa for Vlad. 🤷🏽♂️
I agree with Vlad on this. These dudes claim they street dudes but when a real street dude does something they street dudes do all of a sudden they wanna be righteous. I think Taxstone was wrong for having a gun and shooting Banga, however Troy Ave and Banga was wrong for trying to inflict violence on Taxstone. Math is talking as if the streets have rules, it doesn't. Black men gotta get that street mentality out their heads.
Math cooking Vlad on this topic!
It’s so crazy how emotionally invested Vlad is to this Taxstone situation to the point he can’t even speak objectively on a situation as a professional. Bro, Taxstone fucked up, simple period. Pulling a pistol out over a fist fight is weak.
But he didn't want to fight.. and they tried to jump him
FACTS 💯
@@WillOnCodeSo? take that L, we've all gotten jumped before , tf
Someone needs to get up there and actually play a song
@user-gf3nq6eb7o no you got jumped before.. I got jumped one time in my life 3rd grade.. I was winning and they stopped.. but as a grown man, I got my fire on me and I dont mess with nobody. Yeah your young.. your the type to get beat up and don't do nothing... smh
Math, your growth is inspirational bro, this is what maturing is. We cannot be the same person and expect new horizons.
It was over for vlad when Math hit the drum set! 😂😂😂 lol
Math got u vlad none of ur points was valid 😂😂😂😂😂
In Florida, you can not bring a firearm into a place where they have a bar and serving alcohol.
So if Taxstone did that shit in Florida, he would’ve gotten life.
And Taxstone is a convicted felon
What about Poop Shiesty ? That happened in or out the club?
@@CesareNero the victim in the case recanted. Other witnesses refused to cooperate. It then turned into a fed case and he was smart by pleading guilty and got only 5 years
You can tell Vlad is in his feelings whenever he starts to sound like Jerry Seinfeld 💀💀😂😂
That Mike Tyson analogy wasn't the best for that argument lol😂
Sean Bigga was the MasterLink to the Math Pod , now that he gone I'M GONE!!!! WORD
Vlads response to Math’s question about Mike Tyson says it all about him….why did he have to say “I interviewed Mike Tyson so I can relate to that” 😭😭
Real shit I’d interview him I’d interview him
I like how Math was challenging Vlad on the antagonistic ways of said person(Tax) on his actions leading up to & including the shooting of Banga
Math Hoffa just hates Taxstone. The Jay Z and Kanye situations are different. Those men were in altercations and their homies defended them. Banga wanted to ‘earn his keep’ by being a goon.
Math is controlling the setting, even in the beginning when he was letting vlad talk over him.
Vlad trying to defend Tax knowing Tax was dead wrong! He literally tweeted Troy Ave everyday harassing him!
Tax got scared and had to do what only he knew to do lol shoot ! Sucka move
U should kno Vlad knos evrything about anything😂
Wrong for defending yourself.
Madness
How was tax wrong when they ran up on him in real life
@@WillOnCode They just want to chat to feel valid bro I'm telling you
Math earned my respect!
love how Math made Vlad stay on topic when trying to switch the narrative
W.E Troy had going on with ilovemakonnen doesnt negate the fact that Tax was his own downfall!
Y'all really disregarding Troy's actions in all of this like he was some innocent civilian lol
Bro its crazy
Lol yo I thought that was a green screen this whole time
Vlad need to stop acting like he knows what’s going on in the streets. And Tax don’t even fw him like he think I bet 😂
This is what I say. You can tell Vlad thinks he's giving himself sum street credibility by saying "Tax is my man", when in reality he just sounds like a doofus.
Vlad always brings up the Mike Tyson interview…
Math made it perfectly clear at the end. If you're too afraid to fight then you should watch what you say and keep it respectful.
7:44 - it’s ironic cos the reason Math Hoffa used to beef with Taxstone, it’s the same one Charleston White used when he was beefing with Math Hoffa!!!! 😂😂🤣🤣
Glad u wrong on this one. Tax doing 35 for turning a podcast beef Into a street thing
Tax had the gun he was the one on a dummy mission
Never knew that the drum set was real 😂 Thanks for clarifying that Math 👍🏾
Great interview. Math is super solid.
Math killed him on here 😂😂😂💯
Casanova said out his mouth that he invited Taxstone, Tax wasn't coming but Cas asked... Cas even said he felt bad about it...
I thought it was Maino who said that.
That’s why he doing the time he doing as a grown man how do u not see that playing out
@@kennardojames2504 Nope
Facts ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
I love how Math keeps calling Vlad out on Speculation... "You Don't Kno" lol
Ayooo. Muting saying the bull’s name is mad wild @2:45
Both sides were incredibly ignorant that night.
I don't see how Troy was ignorant. He did exactly what he was supposed to do
Exactly!
U sound dumb, Troy ave had guns on the car he could have told banga to go get them for tax once he saw him. Instead he told bang to punch him in the face. U should be able to have a fight and still be alive to get your get back if u lose.
@@parlowgemsdidn't Taxstone say what's popping and brandish a gun. Cmon now. Taxstone fucked up.
You should probably google the word ignorant then come back!!!
Shout out to math on keeping it real on this one. Vlad, whether troy is wrong or not, in that instance, tax is inviting that energy.
Best reply ever we not in Florida
Thank You Math...Real One💯
lmaooo the real nigga line had me rollin Math
U talked shit about Rick Ross he punched u, u sued him. Tax should've did the same thing
Taxstone couldn't take a punch so he pulls out a gun. I'm all the way there with Math. Finally someone sitting Vlad down with his bias.
I wonder if Vlad is gonna play the flashback of Tax talking about Math??
Math went totally legit with this responses. To think he don’t know how street dudes move sometime they ain’t fighting
Math knows exactly what and why that happened. Math just doesn't like taxstone, and that's clearly.
FACTS!
Wow, one word for Math: Growth. As a person, individual, man, from watching this dude punch dudes in the face a couple of times in battle raps to making these thoughtful comments, when he said referring to Tax that night in the club "...to be a real nigga" like you could see him tear up a bit because it was as if he was talking about himself in a way, doing dumb shit, fights, guns, shooting someone, things that could have some mayor consequences in his life forever and to be on the other side...deep. of course this went over Vlad's head with Vlad even "Tax never talk about me" Mfker who is even talking about u, why make it about u? Sometimes you have to Shut up and listen.
Finally someone said it!!!!!!! Thanks math 🎉 👏
Willie & Gallo, Willie & Wallo 😂😂
Vlad never mentions the fact that the gun was stolen
I wonder if math was in troy ave position that night who’s side vlad would’ve taken.
Best segment from this interview for sure!!!
Can’t argue w a dude who unnecessarily and unexpectedly punches dudes when he’s loosing battles. Not on this topic😂
Bingo!
4:40 | ✌🏽Dummy 😂