Can a $400 Smoker BBQ Better than a $4000 Smoker?
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The Goldee's Backyard Offset vs the Old Country Pecos Offset, which pit will make the better brisket? Watch and find out :)
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What I learned from this video is that you can make a great brisket on a $400 smoker. Cheers
lol yep, thats exactly what i said, but i think i said insane.. but great works too!
Agreed, you can make great BBQ on the cheaper smokers IMO BUT you have to work much harder, mods, fire management, constant baby sitting, etc… I run Oki Joe great bbq but I babysit it all day. But I love it!
Notes from the cook:
-My knowledge is based solely on experience and observation. I do not know the science nor do I claim to know.
-Right after filming I did a blind taste test with my wife and she picked the goldees brisket without even hesitating.
-The wind was messing up the broll of how hard the pecos was pulling. But what I was trying to explain is the smoke was just slower even though the pecos didn't have a damper at the time. It would have been clear if you were able to see it in person.
-I put the briskets point to the stack to take a picture for the thumbnail but i flipped them right away to have point toward fire.
-This is a test of 1 brisket on 2 different cookers, therefore you can't draw definitive conclusions from this video. But I think the differences/similarities were glaring enough to be noted and considered.
Had a lot of fun with this one and was seriously mind blown by the results. Tell me in the comments if you were surprised as well. Like the video and subscribe if you enjoyed it because it helps push the video on YT.
Thanks y'all 🤠
Great video, very informative. Could you please purchase both right / left briskets off the same cow & retest? Lol😂 I'm 1/2 kidding. Cheers!
@@TheSlipknot79 LOL that would be the true test.. yeah this is just a 1 of 1. I promise someone out there can cook a better brisket on the pecos and also the goldees than i can. So keep that in mind with my results haha
Yeah if you only have $500 then the Pecos will definitely fill you needs. Both briskets looked so good.. Krazy
Watched the entire video, you made a lot of good points and the video was well put together. Great job
thank you, appreciate that!
Great video. $4K for a backyard smoker is a lot! I was gonna get a Goldie’s smoker because MM smokers are great. Then I saw the price tag. 😂😂😂
Ant, great video! I think you forgot to highlight one major point between the two smokers at the end: time. You mentioned it during the video but that is a huge factor in picking out a smoker.
My first smoker was a cheap $200 Chargriller that I made amazing meat in, but I couldn’t leave it for a second. It needed small splits and constant attention.
My current and last smoker, is an LSG 20x42. It is so efficient, that I get work and projects done around the house. Once it’s at temp, it just works and holds temp like a champ.
It was worth all the extra money in the time savings.
Great point! I can go to the gym when I'm using the goldees, but i can't even make it to dollar general without the coal bed dying in the pecos 😂
Great video! Do you happen to have a trimming video? If so, I’d like to learn.
I got the old school pecos. I insulated firebox, removed baffle ,and extended smoke stack to. 42" it was a game changer
Ant,
Just to give credit where credit is due, your BBQ cooking skills may be the missing factor that accounts for the great quality on the Pecos. I’m not so sure if just anyone could pull that off. Remember what Harry Soo always says: “It’s not the pit, it’s the pitmaster!” He has a video of a guy who wins world steak cook offs on a lousy grill compared to his competitors. Barb of Barb’s BBQ, in her video Two Stay at Home Dog Mom’s cook a brisket produced what looks like a world class brisket on a $69 Walmart grill! These people have tremendous skill! The big question is how much struggle would some regular backyard bbq guy have on the Pecos and how much improvement would he notice on the Goldee’s pit?
I applaud your bbq talents and how good you have become!👏
thats high praise! i appreciate that, but at the same time maybe if harry or Chuck did this they would have gotten that sweetness on the pecos brisket haha
Ant - Happy Thanksgiving bro. Wishing you the best!
Happy Thanksgiving! Hope you have an awesome one, bro 🙏
Great video! Not sure if I was the only one that noticed the Donkey Kong 64 theme music, but totally cool. Thanks for all the knowledge. Cheers!
I like how you added the Donkey Kong Country bonus stage theme. Excellent video
🍌🍌🦍🦍 thanks!
Aaaah you’re talking about the sugar cookie bark as Steve Gow so lovingly refers to it. And yeah, it’s so amazing. Great video, Ant.
I've heard that term before from Raleigh smoke lol always just thought of that sweetness as brisket sweetnes. Kinda like how bacon when cooked right tastes a little sweet
Thank you for this information 😎 Hey Happy Thanksgiving to You and Your family 😎
Np, happy Thanksgiving!
Question when you wrapped did you let the brisket come down in temp? Or just wrap right off the smoker?
Great video! I’m a few weeks away from receiving my Goldee’s smoker. You mentioned you were using full splits in the Goldee’s smoker…how long was the temp maintaining before adding more wood?
with about 4 full splits, door barely cracked and the stack at 25% it was like 40-45 mins.
Pecos mods....a water pan is helpful, careful removing the baffles- sometimes you want some obstruction to convection because the firebox is so close to the meat, shroud the stack with 7-8" chimney tubing to create an insulated stack, put a couple layers of bricks on the firebox for a semi-insulated firebox, and a welding blanket thrown over the cook chamber, a propane torch (home depot) helps when the fire goes out. Run the smoker hot and let it heat up to equilibrium for 1-2 hours prior to putting on the meat. You have to be very careful with the size of the splits and their dryness. Pre-warming them is a huge help (I have even put them in the smoker 1-2 hrs to pre-dry them). All these steps help compensate for the shortcomings of the Pecos and other budget offsets. Simply extending the stack is not enough. I am a firm believer that these little offsets can produce BBQ as good, or even greater, than the $5k+ smokers as long as the right amount of attention and mods are applied.
Well I guess you gotta make the Goldees fight the 250gal now. Great video as always Ant!
Hahaha perhaps. I've cooked them side by side already for an event I was doing didn't pay much attention to which was better. But Goldee was pulling harder, which makes sense since the stack is bigger than my 250 lol
Hey Ant. Great video my friend! Always enjoy your content and passion to share your expertise amisdt your not so success cooks to all of us as your subscribers and viewers. Quick question: I have a PBX pit barrel cooker and the original PBC as well. My question is, will you ever do a brisket video on the PBX or PBC? This would be something awesome for us who own drums versus offsets. Hopefully you will in the very near future. Thanks bro!
Thanks so much! I have a custom drum smoker I had made a year ago by my buddy who made my 250, and I have yet to cook on it 😂 it's been sitting covered in my backyard this while time. I want to make content on it, though so a strong maybe for the near future
@@AntsBBQCookout I definitely would love to see a versus video for all 3 pellet vs offeset vs drum video. It's content man!
I started on a pellet smoker. Then I bought a Kettle, then I bought a cheap offset (Oklahoma) to build up my skills. I have been doing research on top of building my skills up with all my smokers. This is a great comparison of the Cheap Vs Expensive smoker. Probably another year or so to save my monies and I will be pulling the trigger on an "expensive one". Thanks for the Video and Knowledge!
Awesome, never cooked on an OKJ but I've heard they cook about the same as an old country pecos. If you're in the market for a more expensive pit, I'd sat goldees or workhorse 1975 is your best bet. But can't go wrong with any in the goldees price range. You'll be happy no matter what
Yea it practically looks the same as the Pecos. I actually landed mine used for $300CAD used only once. New in store were $700. Now that I own it I'd never pay the $700 new for one.
Good video ..I have old country Brazos 1/4 model. I've do the mods and a few more. It cooks really good and better the the Pecos I had.
im tempted to get the brazos g2 just to try it out, but i got way too many pits lol
Great video
Great video!...Dude, is that music at time 3:44 from Donkey Kong 64 for the Nintendo 64??
I subscribed! Keep up the videos with the goldees smoker!
7 briskets on the goldees next wednesday!
@@AntsBBQCookout It's Wednesday
Great video! That goldees pit looks nice. I've been looking hard at the 1975 workhorse.
im going to try and get my hands on one so i can do a few in depth review type videos with it like these goldees ones. i think its the best value on the market. the pipe thing that blocks the heat with the goldees pit makes a huge difference in the way the pit runs, but over 1000 dollars cheaper with the workhorse is so hard to pass up.
@@AntsBBQCookout don't think you could go wrong with either offset. I was also thinking of getting the 1975 on the trailer.
So is the meat probe actually accurate with ambient temp?
I keep one probe across the grate and it's always significantly higher than the internal probes that also have an ambient temp
If it's right on the grate, wouldn't the grate be giving off heat? The ones in the meat would be mostly just the hot air. Idk though, for me the ambient temp was about 25 degrees lower than the gauge which is what I expected it to be since the gauge is pretty high
Same mods on my pecos but I added an upward baffle from the throat and I can use the entire grate now with it about a 13° on average temperature differ from left to right. Haven't done a brisket yet. Beef ribs came out amazing.
I have the pecos, how did you add the upward deflector plate, can you please provide some of the details 👍🏽
@ignoranceisnotatrend4669 picked up some sheet metal, made a template with cardboard and cut it with an angle grinder. It's in between the angle iron for the grate, that little 1.5" gap or so to the chamber wall. I wish I could send you a pic of it. It works like a champ dude.
@@chrisgabriel691 do you have it sitting in there or is it welded in? And how much of the grate are you able to cook on without being in the hot spot by the upward deflector?
@@ignoranceisnotatrend4669it's sitting in that spot so I can remove it if I want to. I have maybe a 10° temperature difference across the entire grate, and I mean I can use the whole grate and not burn a single thing. It tends to get hotter on the stack end now and really renders fat with that hot air swirling around the top of the chamber. It's crazy how much of a difference it made. I have my stack at 42" with the extension and usually the damper is about half closed
@@chrisgabriel691 man I greatly appreciate your advice, I'm definitely excited about doing this modification 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Dude I fucking love your bg music choices.. such nostalgia, couldn’t help but nod my head to that pumpkin hill theme
Good stuff Ant! I haven't watched you or any of my other favorite BBQ channels. I've found that im losing interest in BBQ lately. It would probably help if i could venture and smoke different meats, all I've been doing lately (probably over a year) is chicken. Once im in a better place ill probably find my love in BBQ again. ✌️
That Goldees smoker looks 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
💯💯
Would be interested to see how the Brazos stacks up (pun intended), being a budget 1/4” smoker.
Tell Mad Scientist to do it haha I think he has both cookers
the Baffle in the Old Country does push the heat down, closets to the fire box.... To allow, more even temperature to the farthest from the box. Just an FYI. It's definitely a game changer with that. I see your point, but I have used other styles. Hands down.. leave that baffle.
another day, another victory for the OG
🫡
Now I have to go play Donkey Kong County.
Hahaha
Ant,
Great job! I think Mad Scientist got similar results when he compared the Pecos and the Franklin.
Your backyard looks like a bbq squatter’s village!😂
That may be the cleanest I have ever seen that pink hat! Does the Goldee’s smoker clean clothes too? Jirby has never mentioned that!😂
Happy Thanksgiving! Can’t wait for the 7 brisket cook!
Hey brother, hahaha I guess the cleaning is an added feature! Yeah I remember he did expensive smoker cheap brisket and cheap brisket expensive smoker on his franklin and brazos crazy stuff I guess that's 2 points of data in favor of expensive smoker
The Pecos is great and I have one. For note worth not everyone can afford a 4k$ smoker so for the value at a backyard value the Pecos is the ticket.
Two things:
1.) Sam’s Club’s meat sucks.
2.) I prefer to control temps in the Pecos with a water pan and the stock baffle. Can use most of the grate with a water pan right where the baffle comes into the main smoker barrel.
3.) Goldees will probably be my first big offset unless I make my own, but I love my Pecos for now.
Love the Donkey Kong Music!
Haha good ear!
I have the pecos. For its price its a great product. But everything he said about the fire management is true. In the near future i plan to upgrade to a higher quality smoker and lose that problem.
A+ on the tasting music
I've been debating on trying that stack extension mod for my Pecos, but I'm not really sure it needs it. I've normally got the stack half closed with a single log burning 225-250. Though I do have to go mess with the log every 15-20 minutes.
I'd love to show you pics from my last cook to compare :)
i think its worth it especially since its like 10 bucks if you get a galvanized pipe like i did,. Even with the stack extension, it didn't pull as hard as the goldees. id have to run it without the pipe to see how big of a difference it makes though.
I’m not sure if you’ll have time to answer this, but…I have a Klose trailer pit, 30 inch diameter, 7ft long pit. I’ve had it for about 12 years and I’ve figured it out, however, it does have “tuning plates.” My understanding is that they were placed to make the heat disperse more evenly. I’ve found it does help with the hotspot by the firebox, but I’m really interested in your thoughts on tuning plates. Thanks and I really enjoy your videos. I do think the Goldees pit is ingenious.
Tuning plates make a pit run more like a reverse flow than an offset. So you get a slower pull. I've used a reverse flow on an overnight cook literally once though so not an expert by any means. You've got your pit figured out and dialed in that's what's most important. Tuning and baffle plates are fine. Primitive pits uses baffles and the food it produces is fantastic.
@@AntsBBQCookout You know, I just can’t thank you enough for your reply. The fact that you took the time to answer my question truly makes me a fan. J
@johncrane1894 anytime man! Hit me up on instagram anytime I don't get alerts for youtube reply, so I'm more likely to respond on insta
It's looking like the new Brazos DLX didn't have a baffle, i wonder if the others still come with baffles
Nice vid
thanks!
I have a pecos, I removed the baffle plate, turned it sideways on the inside and cut off 90% of the firebox. So I can run a normal fire.
Use 8" long splits about 2-3 " thick. Shut all vents and open door a few inches. Very good smoker for whay ot is😊
Nice comparison. Pecos and WSM are both thin metal so you can do a good job, but you can't get the same fat render.
I love my pecos. All I added was fire brick. It is the cook not the offset smoker. Can’t beat the price😊
New pecos os 1/4" thick. I want to try one
Id love to have seen you do the taste test blind first then uncovered tbh
I hear ya, but I'm a one man crew so not possible for me. For what its worth, before i tasted it, i was sure they would taste about the same. They looked so similar before i cut them and even looking at the slices there was just slight differences. But the taste/texture difference really shocked me. Also, my wife blind tasted though and she picked Goldees immediately.
Now I’m hungry for brisket! Just wondering if those mods are using galvanized metal? Extremely toxic under heat. Be careful
yeah galvanized, i talked to Jeremy (mad scientist) about it, and he said not to worry since the heat it experiences at the stack is not even close to dangerous temperatures for galvanized steel.
Great video Ant, if your able to build your own pit thats the route to go. Forr 4200 bucks I can build a nice 500 gallon pit for myself. Briskets looked good.
Thanks brother, yeah that's the best bet, then you can make the pit exactly how you want. Great to hear from you, hope you're doing well
@AntsBBQCookout I'm doing well, brother!! I've enjoyed your content you've been putting out!! Your doing awesome!!
Thanks bro!!
$400 or $4000 cooker gives here the same outcome, my wife will ground me in both cases as she thinks i have enough cookers🤣👍🔥
Haha might as well go big and get a 4k smoker then!
Love your videos man!
One thing that would really have made this a bit more of a telling test might have been a blind taste test. Not that I'm questioning your integrity lol
But there's an effect when you know something is SUPPOSED to be better that makes it better. It's like paying a ridiculous amount for dinner at a fancy restaurant: you WANT it to be amazing, so it's going to be, if that makes any sense.
i hear ya, I felt pretty good about my critique, because I was sure they would taste the same. On the outside they looked identical, cooked about the same length of time, and they felt the same before I cut them. Slight differences on the inside of the cut, but I did not expect it to taste that different. Another thing to note, is the last time I cooked on the pecos was over a year ago (the rib video is on my channel somewhere lol) so I was def out of practice and learning while i was going. not a perfect test, but hope it was interesting still.
@@AntsBBQCookout absolutely dude, love seeing your videos - wish I had the time or dedication to work with an offset - just have to live vicariously through folks like you.
Love my MB gravity - a nice mix of 'true smoke' and convenience for your average back yarder...but I do have dreams about one day buying a quality offset :)
How do you compare two totally different sized smokers?
They run at different temps, and they have completely different operating techniques.
Great video. I’m really confused about people saying your video was biased because of your relationship with the folks down at Goldees. I felt that the video was clearly unbiased as are all of your videos that I’ve seen. When you have a smoker that’s 10x the cost of another there are going to be very clear and definitive differences between the two. Pointing out the advantages of the far superior smoker isn’t biased, it’s simply pointing out the facts. But I guess people will always find something to complain about on the internet. Keep doing what you’re doing, obviously things are working out just fine for you.
Think you should have put the thicker one in the in the goldee' s pit
It was slightly thicker but I thought it'd have a better chance surviving in the pecos than the thinner one
A better comparison would be to use the Brazos atleast that one is a 1/4 inch steel offset, thinner the metal the harded it will be to keep even temps, good video though
It's not the Smoker it's the fool in front of it lol
Deep.. wait shouldn't they have come out the same then? 😂
@@AntsBBQCookout 1 brisket on each smoker...one time isn't near enough data to come to any reasonable conclusion about effects on end product quality. There are clear advantages to the Goldies pit, regardless of price, but there are too many factors that affect the final outcome of brisket to say it's the smoker; I'm just saying.
The pecos is more hot on the stack side if not modified
Well, I was thinking about buying a Pecos...
Makes me wonder about that plan now...
I make good can smoke a brisket with a $250 char griller smoke champ. Or any other offset:?as long as the smoke don’t leak and I stick with my own method and what woodI’m burning that all I need. But anyways, great video. I really do like that Pecos smoker offset I’m thinking of getting the Pecos or wrangler soon.
Goldees brisket further along due to smoker build quality?
Easier to use? Less wood usage?
I think it's the harder pull but just guessing. I have no idea
Pumpkin Hill beat Thats a W
The smoke ring on the Pecos was much more pronounced than the Goldees. But the Goldees brisket did look better. Great experiment!
Great observation! Might be because I had to choke up the fire so much because of the swings. But odd that the smoke flavor was less pronounced. I'm guessing it's because I used less wood over all (goldees was using probably 4x the wood pecos was at any given time)
I think you gotta learn the Pecos a bit better cuz once you do, you can keep temps at 225-250 pretty easily.
It's been a while since I fired it up, and like I said in another comment someone can def make a better brisket on a pecos than I can
Good video. Bugs me though that a $4000 cooker leaks around the door
Really good video. Controlled for a lot of variables. However, Only thing I would also include next time is people randomly chosen to blindly taste test the brisket. Ofc don’t tell them which brisket is which. And by random i mean random. Don’t choose brisket connoisseurs because most people eating brisket are not Jirbys or Aarons.
Also thanks for all the video you have posted over the year. Learned a-lot from you. A year ago I knew nothing about goldees, the culture of bbq in Texas (im from LA), how to cook brisket, etc. but not I know a-lot of more.
Hey now--did I just see your personal cookbook or cuttingboard around 9:02?! 🤔
I WANT IT!!!!! 😅
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@@AntsBBQCookout Just sayin'...You'd sell out SO QUICK! 💪😎
@@MandoPercussion a subscriber made it for me! thanks for the feedback and support, i'm thinking of doing merch early next year! I'll keep y'all updated in the community posts.
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Thank you! I really appreciate that, made my day
Is there a link to purchase a Pecos grill
www.academy.com/p/old-country-bbq-pits-pecos-smoker
the key with the pecos and brazos is to load them up with meat. If you put more meat on the smoker the heat will disperse more evenly. Adding a stack on the Old Country does absolutely nothing for the draw. Add you a heat diffuser plate to help. Voila.
I love my Brazos! I bet it would compete no doubt! 😎
I commend you for using DKC music
Where are you getting an Old Country Pecos for $400?
Old country made in Mexico. Its Amazing the American pit manufacturers can compete.
@jirbybbq you're behind on a bunch of reaction videos 🤣🤣
Lol man those lives were so fun. I'm hoping he'll bring it back! Got another goldees smoker video coming next Wednesday to add to his list
Did you really use the "hotdog in a hallway" reference? Like from the Porky's movie? 😆
I think the stack was too long on the pecos that’s why the smoke was falling flat. Did you get the smoker up in temp then let it come back down to the temp you want to maintain? If you put smaller pieces of wood especially two small pieces of wood will cause the fire to be hotter. You have more surface area of wood to catch so it would get hotter and burn up faster. If you use a bigger piece of wood it would burn slower and not as hot and would be much more stable and controllable. There’s definitely a different procedure for cooking on the two. Removing the baffle you get more direct heat from the fire box causing the brisket to over cook. Even on a cheap smoker you shouldn’t have to add wood every 15 minutes.
Digging the donkey Kong music.
Love the videos..The pecos is finicky. If you use a split bigger than a 3x3x6-8 you’re gonna be chasing temps all day. Like a woman it needs consistency.
My kind of video. 😉
That sugar cookie flavor is from perfectly rendered fat, at least that’s what I think. It’s hit or miss to me. As for the smokers, I’d love a quality one, but can’t justify the price for a few cooks a year. I’d rather buy a used boat. But who knows? Maybe one day.
Hope all is well with you/ the family. Happy Thanksgiving!
I am not a pecos master at all, last time i fired it up was like 2 years ago when I made ribs on it lol so im sure if i had a couple more cooks i could improve the fat render but hopefully video is still informative. Great to hear from you bro! Happy Thanksgiving!
When you round up something that costs 499 to 400.
You get what you pay for bottom line. Good video!
💯 thank you!
Quality of meat and you can do it on a weber.
Quality really matters, and yes, webers are dope
@@AntsBBQCookoutagreeeed
Blind taste test would have been a lot more interesting? And a taken preconceived ideas out of true comparison.
If it helps, I did a blind taste with my wife off camera and she immediately said the goldees was better. It shocked me how obvious the differences were once i tasted it, at the point where I wrapped the briskets I was thinking they were going to taste the same, the weird bubbling on the pecos brisket was completely gone the bark looked fantastic. On the cutting board you couldn't tell one from the other.
its not an Ant vid if it doesn't have a sick cook and even sicker music lol
Hahaha thank you!
I’ll take the pecos offset I don’t have one 😂
We just gonna overlook the donkey Kong jingle?
It's not the pit it's the Pitmaster
the brazos is worth the extra money. The pecos is just throwing money away. save up and get your moneys worth.
It’s not the pit it’s the cool. I’ve seen Franklin cook a brisket on a Brazos. Is Old country a great smoker no it’s not but it’s good for the price point. I’m a Shirley fan and I’ll leave it with that.
Big difference when you’re cooking for 20 people versus 200
Id love to have a goldees smoker, but people have been making good briskets with perfectly rendered fat on much less than your cheap smoker for generations. Its knowleddge, not equipment, one test with 1 brisket doesnt tell much of a story
Yep, I agree it's in my pinned comment 👍
haha nothing about those are identical, lol the flat on one is perfect and the other is long and thin lol.. but still entertaining
i noticed one flat was a little thinner too, so I put that one on the goldees since I knew the radiant heat would torch it on the pecos. It curled up a little bit on the goldees smoker because of that, but I was still really happy with how the brisket cooked.
Yea. Thats donkey Kong country alright. 👍
W ear
Most smoker manufacturer's these days put way too much of their labor cost on the consumer. The labor it takes to make these nicer smokers is also a cost of doing business and turning a profit so a decent percentage of that should not be passed on to the customer.
Many of these smokers (i.e. Goldees, Moberg, Lang, Mill Scale) are overpriced in my opinion.
Yeah there was no point in making this video. Instead it should’ve just been why you like about the Goldee’s smoker. Plus we already have enough videos comparing cheap smokers vs. Expensive smokers.
What I've learned by watching the goldees pit is, smoke burns meat the same as being close to the fire. The pipe new invention is not a impressive, still need a water pan
I don't think you need it for a 1 brisket cook it's super small i think 2"x4" and I didn't put any water in it. Just left it in there from my previous cooks.
Haven't even watched but the smoker you use does not have to be expensive, those are mainly novelty items. Think of it like those nonstick pans, you won't see those in any real chef's kitchen.
Def not necessary but built to last and will draw/pull like a 1000 gallon
Why is the brisket on the pecos thicker 🙄🤔let me guess 🤔to boast about the efficiency of the cook on the goldies bbq pit😂
What do you think would happen if I put the thinner flat on the pecos with no baffle plate? Take a guess, you got this.
@@AntsBBQCookout to me it actually makes sense to put the bigger cut on the biggest and more expensive smoker 🤔I thought you had this 😄you could have put the point towards the fire box on the pecos 🇨🇱
Points were toward the fire. I just put them the other way to take the thumbnail picture
@@AntsBBQCookout 🙄
Oh where to start. Ok, I'll start by pointing out what Harry Soo says on this subject " it's not the pit, it's the pitmaster " And Harry knows exactly what he is talking about. The difference between different cookers isn't what cooks the best. It's how easy a cooker is to use versus another cooker. Also what kind of fuel consumption the different cookers have. And definitely what kind of capacity between the cookers that are being compared. This comparison was poorly thought out from the beginning. There should not have been any modifications for starters. Fyi what messed up the smoke flow on the Pecos was adding a sheet metal extension on the exhaust. That out flowing gas was prematurely cooled creating back pressure that ultimately ruined the gas flow on the cook chamber. Just look at how the smoke was coming out the stack. So one needs to look at who are these smokers for? Im saying for the beginner, especially a person who is simply doing backyard cooks for a few folks the Pecos is in fact the better value. But if or when you decide to start cooking for more folks in a single cook,the bigger cooker begins to make sense. That said , I have great respect for the folks at Goldies. However i really don't believe the pipe between the firebox and cook chamber make good sense but is more of a gimmick. We will see if other's will do anything similar, time will tell. A pitmaster understands each pit is different and yes modifications can get different results but not always positive. Treat your pit like she is a very important woman in your life. Get to know what she likes and doesn't like. Find out what her strong points are and DO THAT! Fyi i bought a Pecos some years ago and they are fantastic beginners offsets. But I now do catering and use my Lonstargrillz large Insulated Vertical Smoker. I can do 16 to 18 briskets depending on their size at one cook. And it cost approximately the same,oh a little more, then the Goldies. Definitely a much better value if one was to compare the two. I did yesterday subscribe to your channel though. I have been enjoying the story's I have watched about different bbq joints, the people, the history of their story, etc. You do a great job at telling their stories. Keep doing that. Go ahead and do reviews but I recommend you stay away from comparisons. Have a great day. 😊
Ain't no way I'm reading all that 😂
@AntsBBQCookout yea, I have a bit of a reputation for going long. 😁😆😅🤣😂. But it ain't all bad. Heck grab a beer and read. Especially at the end,that's where my compliment for your channel is. Have a great day. 🌞